Question for.. Everyone.

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Hmm, anyway, I have to say that the Spy's choices have consistently shocked me and it makes me think that there are roles or something getting involved here.

So are you still pretty sure one of Faith, Iris is a spy?

I think Mei was imprisoned because a spy in Mei's small team demanded it. Someone got too much heat from Mei early in the game, and they wanted her gone.

Gabs was right about Yvette and spoke her mind, right about Donald and spoke her mind. Worth checking to see what else she was right about.

I think Ed was chosen because he was manipulatable by the spies in this current situation. If his imprisonment was not inevitable, I think the spies wanted someone they could control into not telling the burg their dilemma.

Right, Ariel?

robert was a potentially very useful person for the citizens. i think he was killed to keep him from being so. he had already been distracted by the reindeer games with yvette, and this prevented him for any usefulness whatsoever.

mei yun, despite having strong suspicion on her from a few sources, was considered citizen by a LOT of people and was starting to build some decent cases.

gabriela was firmly in the citizen camp after yvette was exiled. she put forth a good defense, much better than kirsten's in my opinion, and it became obvious that she was smarter than she let on.

ed, i don't know. he was a silly pick because he had suspicion on him from several widespread sources.

I dont want to sound too much of an echo, but, I concur on the Robert and Gabriela reasonings. Gabriela was very smart and Robert was probably a frame attempt.

Mei Yun I believe was quite smart and liked, true I hardly spoke to her, but she managed to give that impression pretty easily, so if I could get that impression of her, so could the spies.

Ed, now, what I dont understand is why when people say 'oh I dont have a clue about Ed' they dont do some digging?
Ed apprently got a message saying in the future he will be imprisoned, there are three (maybe more, but I cant think of any) scenarios.....
1) The message was 'real'. Ed really was going to get imprisoned and so this means future week was possibly the reason. This implies the spies picked a victim(s) for a few rounds time. Ed at the time had voted for Gretchen twice. Hmmm?
2) The message was 'fake'. The message was probably sent by a role via Sam, obviously to hide the identity of the real sender, it was written in 'Sam style'. Ed told a few people about it, and was then imprisoned? That implicates anyone that was told this. (Now this next bit is a bit of a stretch so take this with a pinch of salt) Maybe once a spy found out this information they imprisoned Ed to frame another person that was told about this.
3) The message is disregarded. It has nothing to do with it. Ed either had a role and was found out or there was another reason and he suspected a spy.

I think playing a guessing game over why people were Imprisoned isn't as valuable as looking at what people in the Burg are actually doing... It's fine to speculate every now and then but that's really all it is, speculation -_-

We can sit here and say "Robert must have been imprisoned because one of Iris/Faith/Ariel is a Spy" or "Robert must have been imprisoned because none of Iris/Faith/Ariel is a Spy and they're being set up" and where does that leave us?

Well, we know that Iris, Faith, and Ariel are either Spies or Citizens...
That's not really breaking news -_-

Assuming the Spies knew Ed could find a way out of Imprisonment if he communicated effectively...

...it's a theory that the Spies chose Ed because they knew they could control him. He'd come to them first with the information and they could shut him down before he told anyone else and found a way to save himself.

If your implication is that I'm a spy, and somehow knew that I could give Ed that information and he would run straight to me first then it is laughable how wrong you are.

I spoke to Ed twice before he came to me with the information, and had just spent part of a chat attacking him before he told me. I had no idea Ed trusted me.

Could we rename this thread "WIFOM Central" or "Get your 8 posts quick"?

Just kidding, but I have a theory about the Imprisonments. The Spies are forced to choose an imprisonment one round, then choose someone the next round to screw with me.

Robert - Very smart, would have been a powerful asset to our side.

Mei Yun - My ally *cries*

Gabriela - Obviously a very smart citizen.

Ed - My case that I posted before I left *goes back to drawing board*

Robert - I wasn't totally surprised that he got exiled. He seemed to be a well spoken and thoughtful player, and quite capable of becoming a vocal leader.

Mei - I was more surprised by her going, compared to Robert. Among some, there seemed to be a citizen vibe for her. Yet if they chose because whom looked the most Citizen, she didn't look the most.

Gabriela - I have no idea why she was imprisoned. She wasn't exactly on my radar of people whom I thought might go.

Ed - He was a surprise. Though if he was chosen during Future week, I wonder why him. Unless they chose someone whom they thought had a good chance of being around in the future, to imprison.

Yeah Boris, just typing up opinions is cool, I'm just hoping nobody is analyzing conversations and spending hours on something that we can't really answer for sure until after the game is over... And it would be easy for Spies to post reasons that would frame other people for the Imprisonments, too, which would be even worse for us.

It's cool to speculate, but look where speculation got us with Yvette -_-

This.

Robert--He was imprisoned because the artificial limb company he worked for went belly up, and he was discovered to have basically stolen a ton of shareholder funds for personal use.

Mei Yun--She got into a barfight and killed a guy.

Gabriela--She was a chronic shoplifter, but never got caught because she was old and made liberal use of the excuse "I thought I paid for this already!" That is, until the police finally searched her house, finding well over $100,000 in stolen items ranging from books to clothes to jewelry.

Ed--Ed was found out to secretly be running an international diamond smuggling ring; using his position as an air traffic controller to get blood diamonds from Africa brought in through commercial airports. After Interpol alerted the CIA to the situation, Ed managed to flee his home before they arrived, but he was stopped at El Paso, TX trying to cross the border and arrested.

Khaled wins.

Also, I think it's possible one of Faith and Iris are a spy. They've acted and voted so much alike to my mind that I doubt both is, which worries me. If there's a lot of people who I suspect suggesting one of them is a spy, it makes me think that perhaps the other one is.

Edit: wrong thread, sorry.

Some people can't drink wine.

I think Robert was either a frame or they were afraid of his Spy-catching abilities.

Mei was probably offed due to her activity and loudness.

Gabriela was a tough cookie by all accounts, so I'm not suprised the Spies offed her. She would have seemed pretty dangerous to them.

Ed...uh, what? I would have expected a couple of others to go before Ed. Maybe they thought he had a role? Maybe he pegged every single Spy with his suspicions?