Post by Robert on May 21, 2009 12:48:56 GMT -5
The hot bits in red. Towards the end it rambles on in different directions too 
spies6Jenya (18:05:28): Good morning, Robert.
spies6Robert (18:05:51): Hi
spies6Jenya (18:06:21): I've been following your group with interest. Do you have any new ideas about who you're voting for today?
spies6Robert (18:06:54): First, if you don't mine, may I ask why you have followed it with interest?
spies6Robert (18:07:04): ^mind
spies6Jenya (18:07:49): Because there's some interesting battles going on and I'm not sure I agree with all the cases. And then there are some terrible plays that could easily be jumped on.
spies6Robert (18:08:34): ah fair enough
spies6Jenya (18:08:37): Take Khaled's random argument for example. He really opened himself up to criticism there.
spies6Robert (18:08:44): well for tonight, it has to be callahan
spies6Robert (18:09:02): tomorrow, yvetet is still very high on my list, and khalad is rising
spies6Jenya (18:09:48): I haven't picked up much evil from Callahan, though he definitely has weird ideas about the flow of information.
spies6Robert (18:10:06): he's a big fat dirty liar. Thats the biggest issue:p
spies6Robert (18:10:12): he'd been caught in a few lies already
spies6Jenya (18:10:18): About big things or little things?
spies6Jenya (18:10:58): Is he lying to incriminate people, for example?
spies6Robert (18:11:12): no, he's making slips then lying to cover them
spies6Jenya (18:11:26): Slips about what? Information only spies would have?
spies6Robert (18:11:47): no, about what he's said, what he's saying, what he means...
spies6Robert (18:11:52): he cant keep a consistant story
spies6Robert (18:12:01): which is pretty indicative of a spy
spies6Jenya (18:12:08): It can be.
spies6Robert (18:12:09): they cant tell the truth, so have to lie, but lies are hard to keep
spies6Jenya (18:12:25): Can you give me an example? The biggest lie you feel he's told?
spies6Robert (18:13:28): no one lie is bigger than any other
spies6Robert (18:13:37): and they are all in his thread
spies6Jenya (18:14:08): So if you had to make a case at Exile tonight, you wouldn't have one in mind to share?
spies6Robert (18:14:19): for instance, he told yvette she should ahve waited longer on her case, then told me it was suspicious that i kept it secret. He backpeddled, lied that he hadnt said that, then claimed it was all one huge misunderstanding
spies6Jenya (18:14:48): Yes, that's strange.
spies6Robert (18:14:54): if i needed to make a case on callahan, i'd point to the thread
spies6Jenya (18:15:02): I agree that the cases weren't very good between you and Yvette.
spies6Robert (18:15:03): the case has been made quite public for all to see, and we've all contributed to it
spies6Jenya (18:15:29): If Callahan is a citizen, I think he thought you two overdramatized your cases.
spies6Robert (18:15:32): i've also made a case on Ed, although i do feel a lot better about him right now
spies6Robert (18:16:00): Wait, now you are coming off of left field dear
spies6Robert (18:16:12): You may think that. Callahan hasnt signaled that he does though
spies6Robert (18:16:27): he said to both of us, publicly, that our cases on each other are weak, and we're banging heads against each other
spies6Robert (18:16:40): but at no point did he think they were overdramatized
spies6Robert (18:17:36): So please, if you feel they are, say so. If you think HE thought they were and that's why he is being lynched, that we somehow magically made him lie, slip up and look scummy to everyone else to cover this, Id love to see what makes you think this, with statements from him from before the case on him.
spies6Robert (18:18:01): Right now you sound like a scum partner of his making a bid for me to change my mind, or a general spy planning to set me or yvette up as a spy for callahan's death.
spies6Robert (18:18:10): And right now this is going into the burg.
spies6Jenya (18:18:47): One sec phone.
spies6Jenya (18:20:17): Are you sure, Robert, I believe I've gotten that impression from Callahan.
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spies6Robert (18:20:26): I'm positive
spies6Robert (18:20:37): and i'd absolutely LOVE to see both where you saw this impression
spies6Jenya (18:20:40): Let me check my talk with him yesterday afternoon.
spies6Jenya (18:21:09): And I am not impressed with your dual-accusation there
spies6Robert (18:21:13): and secondly how that reflects badly on us, seeing as it would take two mind controllers to make him start lying and backpeddling like he's been
spies6Jenya (18:21:21): Spy trying to make you guilty regardless of Callahan's alignment?
spies6Jenya (18:21:49): I am telling you I have a gut feeling he may be a citizen, but I am by no means certain.
spies6Robert (18:21:52): Added to that, right now i'd much prefer a slightly more public discussion with him, so there can be independant, innocent verification.
spies6Jenya (18:22:02): I know your case on Ycette was pretty crappy.
spies6Jenya (18:22:06): And everyone agrees.
spies6Jenya (18:22:25): So I hope your case on Callahan is a little better and not being blown out of proportion.
spies6Robert (18:22:30): Jenya, think it through dear. If me and yvette felt he was onto us and decided to lynch him off, how exactly would we have gone about making him lie, backpeddle, change history...
spies6Jenya (18:22:49): No, I agree that his statements seem inconsistent.
spies6Robert (18:22:50): AFter all, that is what you accused us of above, or at least hinted that "people may think"
spies6Jenya (18:23:16): I was wondering if that was the big thing, because I read about the "make your case public/keep your case secret" yesterday.
spies6Robert (18:23:33): thats a big part of it, but there are a couple of other lies too
spies6Robert (18:23:45): in fact, it's hard to find something he;s said that he hasn't later taken back
spies6Jenya (18:24:32): spies6callahan (3:11:02 PM):if you believe i'm a citizen i could use your helpspies6Jenya (3:11:29 PM):With?
spies6Jenya (18:24:44): spies6callahan (3:11:50 PM):your thoughtsspies6callahan (3:12:01 PM):this may get bigger than i can handlespies6Jenya (3:12:05 PM):I'll drop in.spies6callahan (3:12:12 PM):i appreciate it
spies6Jenya (18:24:56): spies6Jenya (3:12:33 PM):The Callahan? thread?spies6callahan (3:12:38 PM):yesspies6callahan (3:18:59 PM):the simple thing here is, i'm being misrepresentedspies6callahan (3:19:06 PM):things are being taken out of contextspies6callahan (3:20:27 PM):my effort to not take sides is coming back to haunt me to be honest
spies6Jenya (18:25:14): spies6Jenya (3:35:38 PM):I read the Yvette/Robert threadsspies6Jenya (3:35:43 PM):The cases are terrible.spies6callahan (3:35:50 PM):lol yesspies6Jenya (3:35:57 PM):You were right to suggest that they not bring such crappy cases or make them so overdramatic.spies6Jenya (3:36:14 PM):They seem way too locked into their votes for such terrible cases.
spies6Robert (18:25:47): so waht are you saying
spies6Jenya (18:26:08): You and Yvette rubbed me the wrong way by making terrible cases.
spies6Jenya (18:26:15): I wondered if you might be fake fighting
spies6Robert (18:26:17): because earlier you was implying taht if he indeed is innocent, me and yvette will look bad, as we overdramatized our cases but he spotted it
spies6Jenya (18:26:39): Regardless, you will look bad if you make bad cases, so I want to understand your complete case.
spies6Robert (18:26:43): Lets look at it from two perspectives, okay?
spies6Robert (18:27:50): Firstly, lets assume we did make fake cases on each other for some unfantomable reason. Callahan somehow spots this and approaches us and tells us so, and as a result we decide to have him lynched. How do you propose we went about making him lie, weasle his way out of things, misrepresent his own previous statements, etc?
spies6Robert (18:28:11): Even if they were fake cases, which they are not, all they did, as fake cases, were expose callahan as a probable spy
spies6Jenya (18:28:12): Oh I'm not saying you forced him to lie in any way.
spies6Jenya (18:28:28): I want to evaluate whether those are accidental or malicious lies, Robert.
spies6Robert (18:28:37): now assume they are real cases. Same reasoning, there's still a) no way we could have led him down this path, and b) no way it looks good on him
spies6Robert (18:28:46): accidental lies are still scum tells
spies6Jenya (18:28:53): Sometimes.
spies6Robert (18:29:07): in fact, on day 1 a malicious lie is an oddity, why would a spy put themserlves out like that
spies6Jenya (18:29:15): Things like "Callahan told me your cases were overdramatic" might not be.
spies6Robert (18:29:15): defensive lies when being caught out are much more likely
spies6Robert (18:29:35): So that conversation was a lie?
spies6Jenya (18:29:36): I see in that chat with Callahan that I brought up the word overdramatic, not him, and I'm not sure if he ever did.
spies6Jenya (18:29:54): So would that be a lie and thus make me a spy? No.
spies6Robert (18:30:46): that'd be you misremembering things. However taking two contradictory stances on two cases (one should keep it secret, ones evil for keeping it secret) then lying to try to cover it up has no "accidental" element to it
spies6Jenya (18:30:52): Right.
spies6Robert (18:31:11): i agree a lie when you dont realise you are lying "I have never spoke to Bob Doe" when infact we had a quick hi on day 1 but didnt talk after, arent scum tells
spies6Robert (18:31:20): but lies to attack or defend are.
spies6Jenya (18:32:23): My biggest problem with Callahan is his post, the 2nd one in Yvette's thread
spies6Jenya (18:32:43): Where he makes an ambiguous comment and then waits for more responses.
spies6Jenya (18:32:53): And then when others chime in he makes his opinions known
spies6Jenya (18:33:04): It's the kind of thing you do when you want to see which way the breeze blows.
spies6Robert (18:33:58): I thought you thought he was innocent a minute ago?
spies6Jenya (18:34:41): Not at all, I've just felt no evil from him. I am chatting with you to find out more.
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spies6Robert (18:35:09): it sounds like you are leaning towards thinking he may be a spy
spies6Jenya (18:35:25): It's pretty minor. It's the kind of thing a citizen could do too if they're trying to be liked.
spies6Jenya (18:35:32): People say Tiberius does the same thing.
spies6Jenya (18:35:56): I thought he was a spy at first for trying to have it both ways, but people think maybe it's just his personality.
spies6Jenya (18:36:14): So I want to know more about Callahan and you know him way better than me.
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spies6Robert (18:39:06): PErhaps. I'm posting this anway, so everyone can judge themselves.
spies6Jenya (18:39:16): Fine with me.
spies6Robert (18:39:24): As i do feel that until I accused you of defending him, you were leading down a path I don't care for
spies6Robert (18:39:24): As i do feel that until I accused you of defending him, you were leading down a path I don't care for
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spies6Jenya (18:39:44): Is your mind too made up to discuss things?
spies6Jenya (18:40:03): You seemed nervous that Callahan would come up citizen and I would nail you to the wall.
spies6Robert (18:40:13): the path is "callahan suspected you cases were false, you jointly led a lynch on him" - thats what i dont care for
spies6Jenya (18:40:18): And nervous that he's come up spy and I'd nail you to thet wall?
spies6Robert (18:40:25): as it makes no sense, considering how its gone
spies6Jenya (18:40:31): Robert, everyone thought your cases sucked.
spies6Jenya (18:40:46): I have talked to many people, none liked those cases. They are not all spies.
spies6Jenya (18:41:01): The Callahan case at least has more truth and some deception in it.
spies6Jenya (18:41:10): The question is, is it right.
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spies6Robert (18:42:12): Jenya, how the fuck do you go from "Your cases suck" to "you guys are leading a lynch on callahan because he thought you overdramatised your cases"?
spies6Robert (18:42:33): thats my only issue with you
spies6Jenya (18:42:45): If your first case sucks
spies6Jenya (18:42:54): People are going to approach your next case more skeptically
spies6Jenya (18:43:09): Like you are trying to make me look dumb for a small point about Yvette in chat Sunday.
spies6Jenya (18:43:19): You're actually actively doing it.
spies6Robert (18:43:39): sorry, go back over that?
spies6Robert (18:43:44): spies6Jenya (18:43:09): Like you are trying to make me look dumb for a small point about Yvette in chat Sunday.
spies6Jenya (18:43:58): Yvette said she was already a spy way too often.
spies6Jenya (18:44:08): Before Sam announced that the spies knew who they were already.
spies6Robert (18:44:16): Yet you are basing an entire CASE off of it.
spies6Jenya (18:44:19): It's a small point and you guys are making it into a big point.
spies6Robert (18:44:21): That, my dear, is dumb.
spies6Jenya (18:44:30): No, I am not making a big case, Robert.
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spies6Robert (18:45:04): making any case on it is, quite honestly, dumb
spies6Jenya (18:45:25): Just keep watching to see if she does the "obvious thing a spy would never do" a lot, Robert.
spies6Jenya (18:45:42): It could be a strategy to be so bold no one will ever suspect her. See if more pieces fit over time.
spies6Robert (18:45:56): its a strategy i am familiar with
spies6Robert (18:46:05): Im not saying shes innocent because she joked about being a spy
spies6Robert (18:46:20): i am saying itwas early game joking and has no indication as to her true alignment.
spies6Robert (18:46:37): if it was a valid point, dont you think i'd have added it to my case on her?
spies6Jenya (18:05:28): Good morning, Robert.
spies6Robert (18:05:51): Hi
spies6Jenya (18:06:21): I've been following your group with interest. Do you have any new ideas about who you're voting for today?
spies6Robert (18:06:54): First, if you don't mine, may I ask why you have followed it with interest?
spies6Robert (18:07:04): ^mind
spies6Jenya (18:07:49): Because there's some interesting battles going on and I'm not sure I agree with all the cases. And then there are some terrible plays that could easily be jumped on.
spies6Robert (18:08:34): ah fair enough
spies6Jenya (18:08:37): Take Khaled's random argument for example. He really opened himself up to criticism there.
spies6Robert (18:08:44): well for tonight, it has to be callahan
spies6Robert (18:09:02): tomorrow, yvetet is still very high on my list, and khalad is rising
spies6Jenya (18:09:48): I haven't picked up much evil from Callahan, though he definitely has weird ideas about the flow of information.
spies6Robert (18:10:06): he's a big fat dirty liar. Thats the biggest issue:p
spies6Robert (18:10:12): he'd been caught in a few lies already
spies6Jenya (18:10:18): About big things or little things?
spies6Jenya (18:10:58): Is he lying to incriminate people, for example?
spies6Robert (18:11:12): no, he's making slips then lying to cover them
spies6Jenya (18:11:26): Slips about what? Information only spies would have?
spies6Robert (18:11:47): no, about what he's said, what he's saying, what he means...
spies6Robert (18:11:52): he cant keep a consistant story
spies6Robert (18:12:01): which is pretty indicative of a spy
spies6Jenya (18:12:08): It can be.
spies6Robert (18:12:09): they cant tell the truth, so have to lie, but lies are hard to keep
spies6Jenya (18:12:25): Can you give me an example? The biggest lie you feel he's told?
spies6Robert (18:13:28): no one lie is bigger than any other
spies6Robert (18:13:37): and they are all in his thread
spies6Jenya (18:14:08): So if you had to make a case at Exile tonight, you wouldn't have one in mind to share?
spies6Robert (18:14:19): for instance, he told yvette she should ahve waited longer on her case, then told me it was suspicious that i kept it secret. He backpeddled, lied that he hadnt said that, then claimed it was all one huge misunderstanding
spies6Jenya (18:14:48): Yes, that's strange.
spies6Robert (18:14:54): if i needed to make a case on callahan, i'd point to the thread
spies6Jenya (18:15:02): I agree that the cases weren't very good between you and Yvette.
spies6Robert (18:15:03): the case has been made quite public for all to see, and we've all contributed to it
spies6Jenya (18:15:29): If Callahan is a citizen, I think he thought you two overdramatized your cases.
spies6Robert (18:15:32): i've also made a case on Ed, although i do feel a lot better about him right now
spies6Robert (18:16:00): Wait, now you are coming off of left field dear
spies6Robert (18:16:12): You may think that. Callahan hasnt signaled that he does though
spies6Robert (18:16:27): he said to both of us, publicly, that our cases on each other are weak, and we're banging heads against each other
spies6Robert (18:16:40): but at no point did he think they were overdramatized
spies6Robert (18:17:36): So please, if you feel they are, say so. If you think HE thought they were and that's why he is being lynched, that we somehow magically made him lie, slip up and look scummy to everyone else to cover this, Id love to see what makes you think this, with statements from him from before the case on him.
spies6Robert (18:18:01): Right now you sound like a scum partner of his making a bid for me to change my mind, or a general spy planning to set me or yvette up as a spy for callahan's death.
spies6Robert (18:18:10): And right now this is going into the burg.
spies6Jenya (18:18:47): One sec phone.
spies6Jenya (18:20:17): Are you sure, Robert, I believe I've gotten that impression from Callahan.
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spies6Robert (18:20:26): I'm positive
spies6Robert (18:20:37): and i'd absolutely LOVE to see both where you saw this impression
spies6Jenya (18:20:40): Let me check my talk with him yesterday afternoon.
spies6Jenya (18:21:09): And I am not impressed with your dual-accusation there
spies6Robert (18:21:13): and secondly how that reflects badly on us, seeing as it would take two mind controllers to make him start lying and backpeddling like he's been
spies6Jenya (18:21:21): Spy trying to make you guilty regardless of Callahan's alignment?
spies6Jenya (18:21:49): I am telling you I have a gut feeling he may be a citizen, but I am by no means certain.
spies6Robert (18:21:52): Added to that, right now i'd much prefer a slightly more public discussion with him, so there can be independant, innocent verification.
spies6Jenya (18:22:02): I know your case on Ycette was pretty crappy.
spies6Jenya (18:22:06): And everyone agrees.
spies6Jenya (18:22:25): So I hope your case on Callahan is a little better and not being blown out of proportion.
spies6Robert (18:22:30): Jenya, think it through dear. If me and yvette felt he was onto us and decided to lynch him off, how exactly would we have gone about making him lie, backpeddle, change history...
spies6Jenya (18:22:49): No, I agree that his statements seem inconsistent.
spies6Robert (18:22:50): AFter all, that is what you accused us of above, or at least hinted that "people may think"
spies6Jenya (18:23:16): I was wondering if that was the big thing, because I read about the "make your case public/keep your case secret" yesterday.
spies6Robert (18:23:33): thats a big part of it, but there are a couple of other lies too
spies6Robert (18:23:45): in fact, it's hard to find something he;s said that he hasn't later taken back
spies6Jenya (18:24:32): spies6callahan (3:11:02 PM):if you believe i'm a citizen i could use your helpspies6Jenya (3:11:29 PM):With?
spies6Jenya (18:24:44): spies6callahan (3:11:50 PM):your thoughtsspies6callahan (3:12:01 PM):this may get bigger than i can handlespies6Jenya (3:12:05 PM):I'll drop in.spies6callahan (3:12:12 PM):i appreciate it
spies6Jenya (18:24:56): spies6Jenya (3:12:33 PM):The Callahan? thread?spies6callahan (3:12:38 PM):yesspies6callahan (3:18:59 PM):the simple thing here is, i'm being misrepresentedspies6callahan (3:19:06 PM):things are being taken out of contextspies6callahan (3:20:27 PM):my effort to not take sides is coming back to haunt me to be honest
spies6Jenya (18:25:14): spies6Jenya (3:35:38 PM):I read the Yvette/Robert threadsspies6Jenya (3:35:43 PM):The cases are terrible.spies6callahan (3:35:50 PM):lol yesspies6Jenya (3:35:57 PM):You were right to suggest that they not bring such crappy cases or make them so overdramatic.spies6Jenya (3:36:14 PM):They seem way too locked into their votes for such terrible cases.
spies6Robert (18:25:47): so waht are you saying
spies6Jenya (18:26:08): You and Yvette rubbed me the wrong way by making terrible cases.
spies6Jenya (18:26:15): I wondered if you might be fake fighting
spies6Robert (18:26:17): because earlier you was implying taht if he indeed is innocent, me and yvette will look bad, as we overdramatized our cases but he spotted it
spies6Jenya (18:26:39): Regardless, you will look bad if you make bad cases, so I want to understand your complete case.
spies6Robert (18:26:43): Lets look at it from two perspectives, okay?
spies6Robert (18:27:50): Firstly, lets assume we did make fake cases on each other for some unfantomable reason. Callahan somehow spots this and approaches us and tells us so, and as a result we decide to have him lynched. How do you propose we went about making him lie, weasle his way out of things, misrepresent his own previous statements, etc?
spies6Robert (18:28:11): Even if they were fake cases, which they are not, all they did, as fake cases, were expose callahan as a probable spy
spies6Jenya (18:28:12): Oh I'm not saying you forced him to lie in any way.
spies6Jenya (18:28:28): I want to evaluate whether those are accidental or malicious lies, Robert.
spies6Robert (18:28:37): now assume they are real cases. Same reasoning, there's still a) no way we could have led him down this path, and b) no way it looks good on him
spies6Robert (18:28:46): accidental lies are still scum tells
spies6Jenya (18:28:53): Sometimes.
spies6Robert (18:29:07): in fact, on day 1 a malicious lie is an oddity, why would a spy put themserlves out like that
spies6Jenya (18:29:15): Things like "Callahan told me your cases were overdramatic" might not be.
spies6Robert (18:29:15): defensive lies when being caught out are much more likely
spies6Robert (18:29:35): So that conversation was a lie?
spies6Jenya (18:29:36): I see in that chat with Callahan that I brought up the word overdramatic, not him, and I'm not sure if he ever did.
spies6Jenya (18:29:54): So would that be a lie and thus make me a spy? No.
spies6Robert (18:30:46): that'd be you misremembering things. However taking two contradictory stances on two cases (one should keep it secret, ones evil for keeping it secret) then lying to try to cover it up has no "accidental" element to it
spies6Jenya (18:30:52): Right.
spies6Robert (18:31:11): i agree a lie when you dont realise you are lying "I have never spoke to Bob Doe" when infact we had a quick hi on day 1 but didnt talk after, arent scum tells
spies6Robert (18:31:20): but lies to attack or defend are.
spies6Jenya (18:32:23): My biggest problem with Callahan is his post, the 2nd one in Yvette's thread
spies6Jenya (18:32:43): Where he makes an ambiguous comment and then waits for more responses.
spies6Jenya (18:32:53): And then when others chime in he makes his opinions known
spies6Jenya (18:33:04): It's the kind of thing you do when you want to see which way the breeze blows.
spies6Robert (18:33:58): I thought you thought he was innocent a minute ago?
spies6Jenya (18:34:41): Not at all, I've just felt no evil from him. I am chatting with you to find out more.
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spies6Robert (18:35:09): it sounds like you are leaning towards thinking he may be a spy
spies6Jenya (18:35:25): It's pretty minor. It's the kind of thing a citizen could do too if they're trying to be liked.
spies6Jenya (18:35:32): People say Tiberius does the same thing.
spies6Jenya (18:35:56): I thought he was a spy at first for trying to have it both ways, but people think maybe it's just his personality.
spies6Jenya (18:36:14): So I want to know more about Callahan and you know him way better than me.
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spies6Robert (18:39:06): PErhaps. I'm posting this anway, so everyone can judge themselves.
spies6Jenya (18:39:16): Fine with me.
spies6Robert (18:39:24): As i do feel that until I accused you of defending him, you were leading down a path I don't care for
spies6Robert (18:39:24): As i do feel that until I accused you of defending him, you were leading down a path I don't care for
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spies6Jenya (18:39:44): Is your mind too made up to discuss things?
spies6Jenya (18:40:03): You seemed nervous that Callahan would come up citizen and I would nail you to the wall.
spies6Robert (18:40:13): the path is "callahan suspected you cases were false, you jointly led a lynch on him" - thats what i dont care for
spies6Jenya (18:40:18): And nervous that he's come up spy and I'd nail you to thet wall?
spies6Robert (18:40:25): as it makes no sense, considering how its gone
spies6Jenya (18:40:31): Robert, everyone thought your cases sucked.
spies6Jenya (18:40:46): I have talked to many people, none liked those cases. They are not all spies.
spies6Jenya (18:41:01): The Callahan case at least has more truth and some deception in it.
spies6Jenya (18:41:10): The question is, is it right.
spies6Jenya is available (18:41:38)
spies6Robert (18:42:12): Jenya, how the fuck do you go from "Your cases suck" to "you guys are leading a lynch on callahan because he thought you overdramatised your cases"?
spies6Robert (18:42:33): thats my only issue with you
spies6Jenya (18:42:45): If your first case sucks
spies6Jenya (18:42:54): People are going to approach your next case more skeptically
spies6Jenya (18:43:09): Like you are trying to make me look dumb for a small point about Yvette in chat Sunday.
spies6Jenya (18:43:19): You're actually actively doing it.
spies6Robert (18:43:39): sorry, go back over that?
spies6Robert (18:43:44): spies6Jenya (18:43:09): Like you are trying to make me look dumb for a small point about Yvette in chat Sunday.
spies6Jenya (18:43:58): Yvette said she was already a spy way too often.
spies6Jenya (18:44:08): Before Sam announced that the spies knew who they were already.
spies6Robert (18:44:16): Yet you are basing an entire CASE off of it.
spies6Jenya (18:44:19): It's a small point and you guys are making it into a big point.
spies6Robert (18:44:21): That, my dear, is dumb.
spies6Jenya (18:44:30): No, I am not making a big case, Robert.
spies6Jenya is available (18:44:55)
spies6Robert (18:45:04): making any case on it is, quite honestly, dumb
spies6Jenya (18:45:25): Just keep watching to see if she does the "obvious thing a spy would never do" a lot, Robert.
spies6Jenya (18:45:42): It could be a strategy to be so bold no one will ever suspect her. See if more pieces fit over time.
spies6Robert (18:45:56): its a strategy i am familiar with
spies6Robert (18:46:05): Im not saying shes innocent because she joked about being a spy
spies6Robert (18:46:20): i am saying itwas early game joking and has no indication as to her true alignment.
spies6Robert (18:46:37): if it was a valid point, dont you think i'd have added it to my case on her?
