Rey
Rey
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Post by Rey on May 21, 2009 22:20:35 GMT -5
Here are some things that I think semi-clear some players: From these I determine the following due to Almathea's interactions with these players: - Jaya could be a citizen
- Gabriela could be a citizen
- Robert could be a citizen
- Yvette could be a citizen
- Ariel could be a citizen
- Ellis is a citizen
- Jason could be a citizen
- Jocelyn is a citizen
Thanks for all your help, Almathea!
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Yvette
Yvette
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Post by Yvette on May 21, 2009 22:39:29 GMT -5
If one of you could, that was in your original group, provide us some insight as to who sort of started the Almathea suspicions, and reasons why she was lynched. I believe this will help us as well.
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Rey
Rey
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Post by Rey on May 21, 2009 22:43:47 GMT -5
I was the first to mention my suspicions, and I tried to get more people to see why she was suspicious. Ask Ellis or Tiberius. (Although I started doubting myself later on because she seemed genuine.)
spies6rey (4:16:14 PM): well i'll let you in what i think spies6ellis (4:16:18 PM): Go ahead spies6rey (4:16:27 PM): my suspicions lay the biggest in almathea, in fact i have already voted her. spies6ellis (4:16:42 PM): Alma? Not that I disagree, but why?
spies6Tiberius (4:37:04 PM): did you get a chance to read through my essay? spies6Tiberius (4:37:07 PM): yet? spies6rey (4:37:17 PM): i'm going to! i skimmed it briefly, but don't worry i will read it. spies6rey (4:37:32 PM): but spies6rey (4:37:51 PM): i have voted almathea as of right now. spies6rey (4:38:02 PM): i'll explain why in my post coming soon~ spies6rey (4:38:06 PM): but anyways. yeah. spies6Tiberius (4:38:16 PM): alrighty, sounds good spies6Tiberius (4:38:25 PM): i did make her a wouldn't be suprised
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Post by Tiberius on May 21, 2009 22:57:18 GMT -5
Thanks for this Rey. I too hope to find time to look over any conversations I had with Alma and any group chats she was in and check for anything that's funky.
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Post by Thor on May 21, 2009 23:07:59 GMT -5
my only experience with alma was this:
spies6almathea (5:31:26 PM): who suspects me spies6almathea (5:31:29 PM): right now who suspects me spies6thor (5:31:47 PM): how forceful. spies6Robert (5:31:51 PM): Why would you ask this, alma? spies6Robert (5:32:04 PM): So you can plan the nightkill? spies6Robert (5:32:08 PM): spies6almathea (5:32:38 PM): robert, i like you at the right moments! spies6almathea (5:32:44 PM): but right now i need you to be direct! spies6Yvette (5:33:07 PM): Ha, Robert! spies6Robert (5:34:03 PM): You need me to? spies6almathea (5:34:09 PM): yes i need you to spies6Robert (5:34:16 PM): explain why and i'm happy to respond directly spies6gretchen (5:34:43 PM): gtg guys. have a great day all spies6gretchen (5:34:46 PM) has left the room. spies6almathea (5:35:09 PM): okay crytonite (lol) i have just gotten word (and from a fellow team mate) that i am being suspected heavily; reasons this team mate told me to ask around - even people on other teams! spies6almathea (5:35:21 PM): i put the question to this chat as my team are AWOL right now! <<<<bunch of inane drivel>>>> spies6Robert (5:36:15 PM): Alma, i'm happy to admit to suspecting you.
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Post by Ariel on May 22, 2009 0:13:39 GMT -5
Rey, I have an issue with your assurance that Gabriela is a citizen, based on the two small comments about her (one of which has nothing to do with Gabriela being a citizen or a spy) made by Almathea. What makes you so sure?
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Rey
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Post by Rey on May 22, 2009 0:25:09 GMT -5
spies6Gabriela: i agree on the everyones friend thing, though im not sure how strong of a tell that is. the fact that she has sort of thrown around names and waited for someone to pounce on it is a much more valid arguement.
She seemed to have given legitimate reasons for voting Almathea. I guess she isn't confirmed so to speak, I just don't think she is suspicious as of right now.
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Yvette
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Post by Yvette on May 22, 2009 2:55:47 GMT -5
Found this in one of Robert's threads about Jenya: Oh Robert, more shit cases. Stick to your team stop attention seeking. This in my opinion makes Robert seem less guilty, and Jenya more so.
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Yvette
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Post by Yvette on May 22, 2009 3:02:41 GMT -5
From my first conversation with Jenya:
[15:51] spies6Yvette: How is your group holding up? [15:51] spies6Yvette: I have heard Almathea is a big target. [15:51] spies6Jenya: Well, I think they are looking at a few people closely. [15:51] spies6Jenya: Yes, Almathea. Who mentioned that to you? [15:52] spies6Yvette: I noticed Rey said it in your forum. [15:52] spies6Jenya: I'm interested to see who the spies are pushing as easy exiles today. [15:52] spies6Jenya: They must have planned it all by now, don't you think? [15:53] spies6Yvette: I think if all seven spies, or at least all the spies in the same group, were working the same angle, they'd be too easy to catch too soon. [15:53] spies6Yvette: I actually doubt any spy will be the biggest proponent of an actual exile this week. [15:54] spies6Yvette: Perhaps pushing an exile on an unlynchable target, but not leading a citizen's demise so soon. [15:54] spies6Jenya: So who's not leading, but subtly supporting? [15:54] spies6Jenya: In your group? [15:54] spies6Yvette: Callahan. [15:54] spies6Jenya: Playing the Wizard of Oz so to speak? [15:55] spies6Yvette: Callahan is really the only one that comes to mind, although Khaled is shockingly reserved for as active as he seems to be. [15:55] spies6Yvette: All I have heard is that he will "Take his data public" when he finds it, and I've seen nothing yet. [15:55] spies6Jenya: Interesting. [15:55] spies6Jenya: That's not very helpful, it's pretty selfish actually. [15:55] spies6Yvette: Yes. And protective of himself. [15:55] spies6Jenya: I have a question. [15:56] spies6Jenya: Why did you say you were a spy three times before it was announced that the spies were already picked? [15:56] spies6Yvette: Humor? [15:56] spies6Jenya: It caught my eye, to be honest.
It catches my eye when I was going back through my threads looking for conversations where Almathea was mentioned, because Jenya was quick to wonder why the Almathea case was spreading, and seemed quite quick to change the subject, several times throughout the entire conversation.
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Post by Thor on May 22, 2009 16:20:55 GMT -5
i've been finding jenya suspicious consistently since the debacle with her not-quite-defense of callahan where she noted suspicion of those primarily going after hinm as well as callahan himself. it seemed very wishywashy to me. what yvette just posted definitely adds to my suspicions.
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Jenya
Jenya
Knew Something Was Off About That Emo Freak...
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Post by Jenya on May 22, 2009 18:12:16 GMT -5
I thought Callahan was a nice man who didn't realize he was being insulting. I suggested that he rub some lavender and rosehip lotion on his feet and hands, and after that he felt much more at peace. Once he pulled it together he was a lot more pleasant, but it was too late to save him.
I think it's cute, Thor, how you blindly follow Yvette down a wrong path again. Didn't Citizen Father Callahan suggest that you stop being such a sheep? Shouldn't you at least look skeptically at the statements of a citizen-killer? Or look at your own team before looking at the team that just nailed a spy 7-6?
I would bleat like a sheep, but it's not really ladylike. Ta-ta!
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Post by Thor on May 22, 2009 18:30:49 GMT -5
I thought Callahan was a nice man who didn't realize he was being insulting. I suggested that he rub some lavender and rosehip lotion on his feet and hands, and after that he felt much more at peace. Once he pulled it together he was a lot more pleasant, but it was too late to save him. ...didn't realize? do you have reading comprehension skills? he was intentionally insulting. as i said... spies6thor (4:35:45 PM): oh, right, because your entire group is certainly cleared now that you lynched a spy. spies6Jenya (4:38:36 PM): I hate to gloat, Thor, because it's not like me. spies6Jenya (4:38:44 PM): But I caught a spy last night. spies6Jenya (4:38:53 PM): And you didn't. spies6Jenya (4:39:11 PM): That makes you a much better suspect than me for two reasons. spies6thor (4:40:24 PM): so i'm more likely to be a spy because of a) probability and b) because i didn't vote for a spy? [note: i don't b is reasonable when a team was nearly unanimous in their suspicion, and i don't think a is reasonable until much further down the line.] spies6thor (4:41:20 PM): keep in mind i did not say that i only suspect you. i've been sitting on some suspicions that i'm trying to gather enough to build cases for. spies6Jenya (4:42:30 PM): You know what bothers me about you thor? spies6Jenya (4:42:40 PM): You followed Yvette on to a bad case yesterday. spies6Jenya (4:42:54 PM): And you followed her again today with that post you just made about me. spies6Jenya (4:43:07 PM): I'm surprised you'd keep following someone proven clueless. spies6thor (4:43:17 PM): both situations i suspected previously. spies6Jenya (4:43:31 PM): You look like a follower there. spies6thor (4:44:45 PM): okay, you look like a follower on the almathea case, which was already made before you hopped on. and many people agreed that callahan was suspicious, he did nothing to try and render the arguments against him useless. nor is your nose.
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Yvette
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Post by Yvette on May 22, 2009 18:44:01 GMT -5
I thought Callahan was a nice man who didn't realize he was being insulting. I suggested that he rub some lavender and rosehip lotion on his feet and hands, and after that he felt much more at peace. Once he pulled it together he was a lot more pleasant, but it was too late to save him. I think it's cute, Thor, how you blindly follow Yvette down a wrong path again. Didn't Citizen Father Callahan suggest that you stop being such a sheep? Shouldn't you at least look skeptically at the statements of a citizen-killer? Or look at your own team before looking at the team that just nailed a spy 7-6? I would bleat like a sheep, but it's not really ladylike. Ta-ta! Posts like these bother me. It is a similar approach that people like Callahan took. Rather than addressing facts and past conversations, you choose to attack someone else. I suppose this goes for everyone, including myself, I would appreciate more de-construction of cases, rather than pushing your attack off on someone else.
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Jenya
Jenya
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Post by Jenya on May 22, 2009 19:12:57 GMT -5
Actually, a lot of people thought Callahan was citizenish but didn't want to get caught in the crossfire of your witch hunt. I have felt evil from you in the past and I wanted to understand the situation better after reading the thread, so I visited. Considering that your old group is now 9 people and has two or three spies, it's a pretty good place to look for evil.
I also thought maybe some of you would have opinions on Almathea--in case she turned up Spy or Cit that would be useful. It was fun to visit, and you were more polite than usual, which I appreciated very much!
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Yvette
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Post by Yvette on May 22, 2009 21:04:49 GMT -5
Actually, a lot of people thought Callahan was citizenish but didn't want to get caught in the crossfire of your witch hunt. I have felt evil from you in the past and I wanted to understand the situation better after reading the thread, so I visited. Considering that your old group is now 9 people and has two or three spies, it's a pretty good place to look for evil. How would you know how many spies my group has?
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Rey
Rey
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Post by Rey on May 22, 2009 21:11:29 GMT -5
She's estimating based on odds, obviously.
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Post by Tiberius on May 24, 2009 18:52:46 GMT -5
em i dont think that makes jocelyn a spy! but who am i to criticise Rey! i thought he looked spyish cos he kept updating us with every action he did yesterday! chat time hopefully can get us to know each other more ![:)](http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif) Sorry! I didn't realize that telling you what I do is now a major scumtell! My bad! he he, i was just like "oh maybe he kept updating us to explain his really spy related absences". Yes, because I would definitely bring attention to that.
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Post by Gretchen on May 24, 2009 21:23:37 GMT -5
spies6almathea (4:50:57 PM):just found out that robert was suspecting me over literally NOTHING spies6almathea (5:17:37 PM): im in shock still at a conversation i had with robert spies6almathea (5:19:56 PM): i think robert is pretneding to actively look for spies spies6almathea (5:20:46 PM): he suspected me and siad i did loads of scummy behaviour over nothing spies6almathea (5:24:05 PM): ill deal with him providing i survive day 1
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This is why Robert died.
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