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Post by Ellis on Jul 21, 2009 18:18:57 GMT -5
I still don't understand how this clears Mirela or implicates Levi. It doesn't really do either, I'm just pointing out that a lot of people seem to have cleared Levi on evidence that's primarily based on a lot of false information. |
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Post by Roxy on Jul 21, 2009 18:20:18 GMT -5
I still don't understand how this clears Mirela or implicates Levi. It doesn't really do either, I'm just pointing out that a lot of people seem to have cleared Levi on evidence that's primarily based on a lot of false information.  |
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Post by Mei Yun on Jul 21, 2009 18:23:14 GMT -5
It doesn't really do either, I'm just pointing out that a lot of people seem to have cleared Levi on evidence that's primarily based on a lot of false information.  Ellis is truly a comedian. |
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Post by Tiberius on Jul 21, 2009 18:25:19 GMT -5
Yawn.  Groupthink at it's best once again. Boris and Georgia soon you will be indoctrinated into the Mirela/Jenya cult and you will personally convince the next two people in here to join, just like Roxy convinced you, and like Ariel convinced Roxy, and Ellis convinced Ariel, and... etc etc  I could see 'everyone' maybe agreeing on Jenya, but Mirela? That's where the groupthink comes in.  Shush you |
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Post by Tiberius on Jul 21, 2009 18:25:54 GMT -5
Sorry, Sam, but the Thor exile was NOT pushed by an innocent. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.  Party up in hur |
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Post by Ellis on Jul 21, 2009 18:34:11 GMT -5
Ellis is truly a comedian. And that gets a big "whuh?" from me... a rather dry examination of the facts that led up to Donald's exile counts as comedy? As a famous comedian once said, "Yer not laffin' WITH me, and yer not laffin' AT me..." |
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Post by Georgia on Jul 21, 2009 21:39:51 GMT -5
Sam.
*shrug*
I've pretty much thought both Mirela and Jenya have been spies for awhile.
If Mirela isn't a spy.. then she puts on a show of silly citizen of massively fail logic - really well. The entire notion of being certain/knowing someone is a spy - and essentially protecting them from exile for three episodes.. so you can "find the other two" is complete hogwash - and makes no sense. At least to me it doesn't.
In another setup, it could work. It could be beneficial. For instance, a game where you definitely have a cop. The cop finds a spy.. and keeps that information secret for maybe an episode - to observe that spy, and how people interact with them. Once that spy and the other spies know that one of their numbers has been found out for certain - everything hits the proverbial shit fan; and you don't get true reactions. The spymates will distance themselves accordingly.
But in this situation, what Mirela - and by connection Kirsten did. Was they protected a spy for three episodes, under the guise of hunting for the other two. What did they do? They insured the exile of citizens. As well as imprisoned ones. Had Amelia been exiled at #7, the game very well could be over by now.
It enabled Kirsten to completely flip her stances on both Rey and Amelia - without anyone taking notice. It enabled the spies to definitely gain the upper hand. It also enabled for people to change their stances on whom they thought citizen and whom they thought spy. without much.. OMG, did you just 180 on that person!?! I think Thor's exile was the turning point in the standings of spies and citizens.
Jenya has tied herself and Mirela together. She has protected her from exile.. three times? Has she even been in serious danger any of those times? Not really.
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The major possibility that I think Kirsten/Levi could be a spy pair.
Is that it essentially rests on Kirsten's case/suspicions of Levi early in the game. It would definitely make an interesting theory fully worked out.. involving Donald, Amelia, Levi, and Kirsten - all being spies.
If she had to choose between two spymates Levi and Donald.. whom would she push under the bus first? Donald. She'd been much more on his case, as opposed to Levi. With both of them on the block, it enabled her to back off of Levi - because whom would think there would be two spies up on the block for exile? I think Levi would've been the better option to keep around, if that were the situation, since he was a lot more active than Donald.
It also enabled her to switch her stance on Levi.. and lately they've been collaborating a lot together, and voting together.
At endgame, what spy pair wouldn't be just a teeny bit more open about their scheming? Not obvious open, but a little more ballsy, to get things done.
Just my quarter cents. xD
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Post by Georgia on Jul 21, 2009 21:59:49 GMT -5
Another note.
Levi is not a moron.
He has had some pretty imaginative - yet dead on theories about things.
I can't remember exactly what they were about.
But I recall one of them, he had helped Roxy with.
I think perhaps he is just loooking on the side of a moron, because it is endgame. If he is a spy - he'll want to hop on and help any wagon that is on a citizen.
People can play the... "I was just being a dumb citizen last exile when I switched/voted for that citizen based on that (now) flimsy logic. Hidinsight.. blah blah. Swayer was really persuasive..."
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Post by Roxy on Jul 21, 2009 22:02:55 GMT -5
Another note. Levi is not a moron. He has had some pretty imaginative - yet dead on theories about things. I can't remember exactly what they were about. But I recall one of them, he had helped Roxy with. Amelia "immunity" lynch. Funny thing is Levi never posted any of the evidence I don't think, he had me do the dirty work. |
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Post by Georgia on Jul 21, 2009 22:10:34 GMT -5
Yeah. He's helped a bit in the background a lot.
Same with Kirsten. She has had her hands in just about everything.
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Post by Rey on Jul 22, 2009 15:28:40 GMT -5
Levi is fail. To be specific, Levi's theory about one of Mei Yun, Ariel, and Rey being a spy was the worst.
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Post by Mei Yun on Jul 22, 2009 15:30:17 GMT -5
Levi is fail. To be specific, Levi's theory about one of Mei Yun, Ariel, and Rey being a spy was the worst. I really doubt he was going to sell me out like that. |
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Post by Boris on Jul 22, 2009 15:32:06 GMT -5
And yet he is still in the game, and we are not.
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Post by Ellis on Jul 22, 2009 15:49:24 GMT -5
And yet he is still in the game, and we are not. Which makes him either very good, or very bad. If he really IS Jordan, he's very good, but what he's doing must be pretty concealed because I just haven't seen it yet. (Unless he is a spy of course.) |
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Post by Rey on Jul 22, 2009 15:52:16 GMT -5
Nah, he just SUCKS. Great props to him if he actually is a spy.
I played with him on Epicmafia, and I can't really say whether or not he was good since I thought he was a silly noob.
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Post by Ed on Jul 23, 2009 2:51:06 GMT -5
Levi is a moron. Please see his misinterpretation of Gretchen's comments about Rey's creative memory.
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