Jenya
Jenya
Knew Something Was Off About That Emo Freak...
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Post by Jenya on Jun 14, 2009 0:14:04 GMT -5
I think we should give votes, thoughts and reasons so we can understand who people want exiled and why.
I've been finding Faith the most suspicious lately, though her last list of suspicions looked pretty reasonably thought out. Her lurking and her vote history are two strikes against her.
I also find Iris and William suspicious for various reasons, but am not ready to vote them at all without talking with them. I also find Ariel, Boris and Georgia sketchy on and off. Khaled and Kirsten to a lesser extent. I really need to talk to most of those people Sunday to figure out who to vote for. I see most of the rest of folks as fairly cittish.
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 14, 2009 2:18:49 GMT -5
Coming into this episode Faith was my primary suspect. Having spoke fairly in depth to her since then, I've started to come to the impression that she is a citizen. It's hard for me to qualify that statement with any direct kind of evidence, but I will say that for now, my gut is saying that she's a citizen, and I am beckoned to obey.
Iris I have briefly spoken to, and do not feel swayed much either way regarding my opinion of you.
William I have also spoke to, although unfortunately I had to cut our conversation short. I'm leaning more toward spy after our chat. Reading through that chat, there are a few things that caught my eye as suspicious. The first is that I don't understand your stance on Donald. You say the public suspicion of him had mostly died out and thus you dropped him on your list, but that doesn't make sense. Why would your suspicion of Donald diminish if others became less suspicious of him? Additionally, the voting system we used last episode was set up specifically for that exact type of situation. You can put Donald really high if you are suspicious of him, and if nobody else bites, he'll simply be skipped over.
I'm also skeptical of your assertion that you have personality clashes with a lot of different people. From my perspective, when we talk, you are always calm, nice, and easy to talk to. Why is it that you clash with so many other players? It doesn't make sense to me. Especially so, since your clashes tend to occur expressly for the purpose of you being able to change your mind on suspects.
As it stands now, my vote would be on William. Hopefully we can discuss this more tomorrow.
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Post by Thor on Jun 14, 2009 9:53:01 GMT -5
my vote is currently going to faith. she's only started actually doing things after i publicly called her out, and i find that suspicious. her posting this exile has come off as more citizen like, and i'm not sure my vote will stay, but it's there right now.
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 14, 2009 9:53:17 GMT -5
As most of you probably know, I am voting for Bore-is. After that scummy conversation I had with him, there are lights flashing before my eyes. Little neon lights that say "SPY". When called a bandwagoner, his only response is "good for me". If that is sarcasm, it is a very stupid thing to say, and not very cit. like. He also never explained the suspicious conversation he had with Jenya because it was "nothing at the time". Nothing, but deserving of a vote. Odd... . He apparenlty took Jenya off the block because he thinks Mirela and her are working together or something, and Mirela in his eyes is a cit. . Then, he puts our recently fallen Ed. as his first vote. According to him, he had no suspicion about Ed. but merely based his vote on others thoughts, without even talking to Ed. Who does that?? A scummy person.
And that concludes my case. If that doesn't sound like a Spy, forgive me.
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Boris
Boris
Idle Piece of Shit
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Post by Boris on Jun 14, 2009 12:40:34 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead and vote for William this round. I hadn't had much interactions with him before this round, but his comment about voting for Jenya for attacking someone going after Donald didn't hold much water since we weren't sure on Donald at the time. His priorities don't make a whole lot of sense to me, and when things stop making sense in these games, that's where I would end up drawing the line.
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Post by William on Jun 14, 2009 13:37:06 GMT -5
I'm stuck between faith, jenya, rey, and levi. Gretchen isn't here to defend herself I think, so not gonna start anything with her. I can only hope that I can talk to enough of you one-on-one before exile (actually before I leave at 6:30 EST to go to a movie) to convince you out of voting me, cause aparrently that's what you guys need.
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Boris
Boris
Idle Piece of Shit
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Post by Boris on Jun 14, 2009 14:43:47 GMT -5
I sent Roxy this message earlier today:
I got this reply Roxy:
I am sort of seeing this as a Kicken-Rad insult in her head directed at me since this is the Snarky comment I directed at her at the beginning of this episode which has since been fueling her suspicions towards me for this episode.
I sent her this response, which I will not quote, but simply state:
I hate your profile picture, BTW.
I'm voting for William this round, given a conversation I had with him (which I posted in the exile 5 thread). I'm wondering if you're looking at my cases and seeing if they make sense or if you're just taking some backhanded snarky comments I made to you one night and using that as your entire basis for this case you have against me. I wonder if you care enough that Faith or William are going to be voted for tonight, because it just looks like you're voting for me (which can be considered a safe vote) and publicly ignoring most of the other things happening, specifically the Faith and/or William exile that is going to occur tonight, given that those two seem to have the majority of votes on them.
Either way, I worry that you aren't looking at the big picture, and are just taking some personal grudge out against me that will get you nothing except one of two OTHER people exiled (which may worry you if either of them is someone you think to be a citizen.)
PS: I'm going to post this exact message to the burg.
END CONVERSATION THERE
I of all people know that your vote for me is a waste, and though there really isn't the most compelling evidence to prove that I am in fact a citizen, I think it's important to note that it is highly unlikely that I am going to be exiled this time around. Given this, are you OK with either William or Faith going, because those are the two most likely candidates.
Edit while typing, so not really an edit:
This is what is bothering me, I posted my reasons for voting him IN THE EXILE THREAD, with the conversation I had with him. If you had a problem with it, you never said otherwise. If you didn't read it, then I'm not sure if I can trust your judgment.
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 14, 2009 15:16:31 GMT -5
Yes, I know Boris. The fact that is concerning me is that you might have only decided to vote this way EVEN IF YOU HAD A CONVERSATION, because everyone else is. You alredy joked about being a bandwagoner, what else do you expect me to think? Is that supposed to be encouragement for me to vote for either William or Faith instead of you? What the fuck? That is not helping your case any better, it's just making you look like an even bigger piece of trash. This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Are you purposely like trying to make yourself look like a spy? Also: I did really have a conversation with Amelia that looking back at yesterday, I realized was kind of scummy logic. No, it wasn't due to your stupid ass remark. And your profile picture looks like a pedophile outside a preschool, and it's seriously disturbing me.
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Post by Amelia on Jun 14, 2009 16:07:15 GMT -5
I would like to see Georgia go, but I doubt that'll happen this Exile. Everyone seems to be telling me this is going to come down to Faith or William. I don't see that represented here in the thread. Seems like every Exile there's a huge push on one or two people.
We have 20-ish people left. I think we can entertain more than two suspects at a time.
Of Will or Faith, I'd vote Faith first because it might give us some information.
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Post by Khaled on Jun 14, 2009 16:13:44 GMT -5
I'm voting Faith. See the thread.
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Post by Ellis on Jun 14, 2009 16:18:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure who I'll be voting for yet. I'll try and come online before exile time so that I can talk to a few of the people who've come under suspicion and see if I can pick up anything from that.
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Post by Tiberius on Jun 14, 2009 17:10:44 GMT -5
Right now, my vote is on Faith, but do NOT be surprised if I switch it at the last minute to someone like Boris or Georgia or Amelia, people who I'm not sure on, but are likely not going from what I've seen, but but find slightly suspicious.
Here's why. I talked to Faith yesterday and she sounded pretty citish all of a sudden. Also, I just don't want to be on ANOTHER bandwaggon, and there are ALOT of Faith votes this round which really worries me. [even though I'll claim to being the first to be suspicious of Faith I wasn't the first to voice it openly so it doesn't matter]
Two random notes by the way
1. Tragically, due to my being stuck upstairs with terribly weak internet that can't handle AIM I can't be on until Exile, and even Exile might be questionable. So if you have anything to tell me before exile PM ME PM ME PM ME
2. I didn't read this thread before posting. This, as well as a few other burg threads, are things I want to read before exile but may or may not get to depending on time constraints.
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Post by Levi on Jun 14, 2009 17:25:54 GMT -5
Right now my vote is going to Faith. I don't like that I'm voting for someone I need to talk to, but I can't in good faith vote for anyone else. Right now she is the most suspicious from my point of view.
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 14, 2009 17:30:27 GMT -5
Meh, it looks like the William wagon is falling apart. Without support for a vote on William, my next target would be Iris.
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Boris
Boris
Idle Piece of Shit
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Post by Boris on Jun 14, 2009 17:57:57 GMT -5
Yes, I know Boris. The fact that is concerning me is that you might have only decided to vote this way EVEN IF YOU HAD A CONVERSATION, because everyone else is. You alredy joked about being a bandwagoner, what else do you expect me to think? I am very not interested in what you think about me and am exceedingly interested in what you think about William and Faith, since you have yet to tell me both times I've asked.
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Post by Khaled on Jun 14, 2009 18:04:15 GMT -5
Just for reference--while Faith has my vote, my #2 would be Iris, followed by #3 Jenya.
Jenya's based on last round's reasoning, plus everything that led up to the "mountain out of a molehill" incident.
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Post by Ariel on Jun 14, 2009 18:11:59 GMT -5
I would vote for Rey if I thought I had any support at getting him Exiled. Since I don't seem to, however, voting for Rey would be throwing my vote away at this point in time. I'm not going to vote for William, and I'd rather not vote for Faith without talking to her, but will if I have to; my vote thusly would be for Faith, Boris, or Jenya.
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 14, 2009 18:26:45 GMT -5
Boris=a shithead. He only cares about William and Faith who I established I'm neutral about.
How that has to do with anything, I fucking don't know.
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Boris
Boris
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Post by Boris on Jun 14, 2009 18:30:23 GMT -5
You never established you were neutral about them?
7:21:21 PM Boris: now answer the question please 7:21:47 PM Roxy: i already answered that you ass 7:21:47 PM Roxy: i have talked to faith once 7:21:48 PM Roxy: i talke to william a few times 7:22:00 PM Boris: please point me to a post where you said it 7:22:09 PM Boris: because i have not seen it 7:22:40 PM Roxy: i dont think i posted it
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 14, 2009 18:36:49 GMT -5
I think people probably assumed that, consider when I posted my SUSPICIONS, they weren't UNDER that. It's called common sense and piecing information together. Something you don't have.
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 14, 2009 19:23:20 GMT -5
I'm voting for Iris.
I don't think Faith is a spy right now. I'm turned off by her wagon as well, which is a lot of people who seem very unconvinced that she's a spy currently voting her. Looks like a mislynch, folks.
I still like William as a spy, but his wagon appears to have fallen apart, and I would like to talk more with him.
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Post by Pete on Jun 14, 2009 19:24:11 GMT -5
My vote is currently on William. I must admit we had only started talking a few days ago, but, I just dont get a particularily good vibe from him, which ok, in itself is not that much. He then goes on to say how he has four targets for exile but isnt sure on who he is picking yet? I'm sorry but thats sends so many flags up in my head. You arent going to pick anyone untill you know how everyone else is going? Which is, still, hmmm suspicious but not totally good enough....but when he said to me in a conversation:
spies6william: my main group is gretchen levi jenya, and then a mess of maybes spies6william: this round's kinda like a shotgun spies6pete: (shotgun? sorry? I am not good with weapon-based analogies) spies6william: haha spies6william: it's like, I'm putting a bunch of suspects in the top and hoping one hits
Hoping one hits? Hoping the person you voted for is the person that everyone else votes for? I didnt like this comment. Not when combined with the others above.
I'd like to get in a conversation with William before exile, but who knows....
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Post by Jason on Jun 14, 2009 19:30:08 GMT -5
I agree the Faith vote looks like a mislynch right now.... it feels like Yvette all over again. unfortunately there are a lot of votes going her way, so if we don't band together on an alternative nothing's going to really happen because it's going to take more than a few scattered votes to do anything.
Pete's William quote definitely makes William look worse -_-
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Faith
Faith
Daddy's Dead Princess
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Post by Faith on Jun 14, 2009 19:30:19 GMT -5
As of right now my vote is still on William.
As I stated more extensively in Khaled's thing against me I find William suspicious for voting for Donald twice when Donald was not in trouble and then voted for Levi when Donald was in trouble. I think there is a extremely high chance there is a spy connection there. Why? Here:
William had Donald as his #1 suspect clearly when he voted for Donald two rounds ago. Fast forward to next round where there is NO MENTION what so ever of any suspicions on Donald. Doesn't mention that he is still suspicious. Doesn't mention why he isn't as suspicious anymore. Donald magically vanishes from his suspect list completely. That is why I think William is a spy with Donald.
Before that I couldn't remember that William was ever in the game. I found he lurked a lot and didn't offer his opinions very often at all.
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Post by Iris on Jun 14, 2009 19:43:42 GMT -5
Yes, Jenya, I'm here and I'm still Spyhunting. I've been ill this week so I haven't participated as much as I'd like, but...
Khaled, Georgia and Amelia were my top suspects. Khaled I've believed in all along because I think he's genuinely trying to help with his systemic look at things. Then I suspected him because he said I was one of his top suspects but "I could wait." As it turned out that was a misunderstanding, he meant I could wait until I was out of jail...so I'm okay with that part of it.
Amelia I still suspect for her poor showing in the challenge...and I'm reading her posts on the Burg and they all sound defensive rather than like she's hunting Spies. However, I think it less likely that she's a Spy since Donald flipped Spy.
I'm voting for Georgia. I posted my issues about her-- the Day One chat, which she explained to me, which was plausible. However, at the same time she was telling me she couldn't remember, and then suddenly remembered, she was accusing Levi of the same thing.
Now, she's gone ahead and explained that to me, and her explanation is somewhat plausible. However, I'm not 100% sure I buy it, and I have another, bigger issue with her.
She's SO hostile to so many people that I really think it's a Spy sideshow...I've played Scum many times with a strategy is to start a huge public fight with people to detract from actual Scum hunting. I don't see Georgia doing much of that at all so I see her public outbursts as an intentional distraction. People wouldn't think a Spy would call that much attention to herself, so it's a good disguise.
While I'm saying this, I have to admit that Georgia has not been out-rightly hostile to ME personally. However, I've seen her be very hostile to other people with no good reason and that screams Spy to me. In fact, it makes me wonder about Roxy too, who I've trusted due to the odds of the first Exile, but usually when I see fighting like that it's 2 scum going off on each other.
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Post by Tiberius on Jun 14, 2009 19:50:37 GMT -5
I can't bring myself to willingly walk into being part of "another Yvette" if Faith turns out to be a spy later on then I'll feel stupid but I've decided to lay my vote down on Georgia because I'm not sure where else to go and I'm not on board with the William logic.
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Post by Iris on Jun 14, 2009 19:55:46 GMT -5
Kirsten, why are you voting for me?
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 14, 2009 20:06:08 GMT -5
Just so you know Iris, I appologized to Georgia. It was a scummy thing to be a major bitch to her, and I didn't want people to think I was being a distraction for spy hunting.
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Boris
Boris
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Post by Boris on Jun 14, 2009 20:08:20 GMT -5
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 14, 2009 20:09:47 GMT -5
And your point, scum? That's my new nickname for you. Scum.
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