Player-By-Player Analysis

[Levi]

Through the past couple of days, I've been going around interviewing every player to get their motives for every vote that has happened this game. I've compiled all my results into one thread in my confessional, and I will be posting it here.

I believe that I've learned some very interesting things, and I am fairly confident in my suspicions now. This will be a useful tool for everyone as the game continues, and I will continue to update it as long as I'm in the game. At the end of each post I've included my thoughts about that player, and whether I think they are a Spy or a Citizen.

NOTE: Jason, Roxy, Amelia: I still need to interview you. Hit me up on AIM ASAP.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Clusterfuck - Voted Almathea (Spy)
Exile #2 - Team Alive - +'d Jaya (Spy), -'d Thor (Citizen)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Levi (Citizen)
Exile #5 - Voted William (Citizen)
Exile #6 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Did not block Rey's Exile (Citizen)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Voted Almathea after being prompted by Ellis to analyze her contributions, which were found to be nonexistent. Claims to have had no knowledge of Almathea flipping out in chat.

Exile #2 - "Ok, so, during the second episode (and actually more future episodes) I had a lot of work to do, and so it meant I couldnt commit to the game as much as I would have liked, Jaya had voted with Almathea last round, which, was questionable in my mind, added on top to the fact that I didnt like the very cool, almost cold attitude she had in the group chats, it wasnt that much to go on, but I had to make an early vote, and the only evidence I had in front of me pointed to her. With Thor, it was just two chats that was enough for me to go 'right, ok, I trust him', I thought maybe someone brought his name up to me, like once or something and so, I had to vote him negative just in case. At that time I didnt see Jenya or Rey as very tough competitors and so I didnt feel the need to negative them."

Exile #3 - "Yvette was a cumulation of a few things, the case in main burg had a lot of points which I agreed to, and me being who I was back them, didnt feel the need to question anything. Yvette had also been a part of that group of girls where something fishy went on between them and my main thought was, hang on, whose to say this isnt some elaborate trick? Thing is, when Jason noted the 'super citizen' thing, it was quite convincing, at least to me."

Exile #4 - "No, the levi vote was interesting, because, I had started the round having to rethink all of my thoughts, and by starting an almost clean slate (things lingered in my mind obviously) you start to remind yourself, well hang on, just because someone gives a reasoning or explanation for why they did something, doesnt mean the point goes away....there is every reason they are just lying some more. Levi gave explanations for why he suspected, or at least, in mine and kirstens mind, why he suspected, four people at the same time, but the thing is, I just didnt buy it. I honestly thought that he was covering his tracks. Similarily with the Mei Yun change, and actually even the "evidence brought against her/not seen the evidence" part. It didnt seem to add up. I was at that point, willing to vote for Levi."

Exile #5 - "Hmm, a little twist to the question, unfortunately, you ask it at a very bad time. Thing is, I never really suspected faith, she didnt even register on my radar. People expected me to drop my current way of thinking with William in favour of Faith and, I didnt want a part of it. The william vote, for me came about a few things he had said and done, which I already pointed out in my post on him in the burg, so I wont bother repeating myself, but, it was enough for me to go for William."

Exile #6 - "Iris was by far the most obvious citizen ever. She had never ever come up with a ridiculous role claim and she certainly wasn't suspicious after her vote change to Yvette all of a sudden. She didnt give herself away and I felt she handled herself very calm at the exiles. Now, if you believe that Levi.....You'll probably believe anything."

Exile #7 - "In fact, thats a very good question, but with a very disjointed answer. I had thought I learnt my lesson by allowing people to rebutt claims when they get back from vacation. I thought I had learnt that sticking to my convictions and not suddenly drop my way of thinking near exile had served me well (true, William had just gotten imprisoned, but, whatever ) and so, I should stay with Amelia. The thing is, Thor did have a bit of evidence on him, and Mirela (and Jason, lets not forget him too, people dont seem to remember him!) did a good job at convincing me that Thor was not only a very likely spy, but, much more dangerous to keep around then Amelia (who we had both agreed upon as being a spy?!) They had convinced me that it was no longer about catching spies, but, the order that the 'absolutely definite spies' should go. I decided to play tactically. Sh*t (I self eidted that for you)"

Exile #8 - "Ah, well, I dont want to sound like an echo, but, my entire feelings on the Rey exile, are in the most recent discussion thread, and so, all I'm going to do is point there. *Points over there*."

Spy Picks

Amelia - "I have posted my thoughts on her, there is no way she is not a citizen. Goodnight."

Khaled - "I have had some recent thoughts about him, which I will probably confront him about first before going fully public, but, this is an interview, and I cant say no to such a pretty face as yours (urgh I cannot believe I just said that ) I want to know why Khaled said voting Thor would get more things accomplished. Why Jenya was the top of his list? Why did he believe voting off Amelia then Yvette be good? Assuming Amelia is a spy, voting her off, and then seeing her flip spy, looking back at the information, Amelia didnt defend Yvette as he himself said, surely that would make Yvette a citizen? Theres just a few logic slips in his own thoughts, which makes me wonder about him...."

Tiberius/Kirsten - "anyways, the third spy is a bit of a mystery to me, because, unfortunately I am not even sure about my second suspect, not really.....but, I would have to say I am looking at tiberius, not because of popular opinion, but, he did seem to switch to rey (and they were best buds for ages) he at least use to be very unsuspected and yet survived imprisonments, I dunno, its nothing solid, but, still, its like 'hmmmmm' and for similar reasons to kirsten because really she is clearly a smart girl that hasnt been imprisoned yet....but, that really could mean anything."

Personal Thoughts

My interview with Pete was the first lengthy discussion I'd had with the guy. I do not suspect Pete at all. His answers were very straightforward, he was making an effort to ask me questions before the interview, and his general attitude was very Citizen-like.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Clusterfuck - Voted Almathea (Spy)
Exile #2 - Team To Be Alive - +'d Faith (Citizen), -'d Mei Yun (Citizen)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Georgia (Unknown), Faith (Citizen), Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #6 - Voted Kirsten (Unknown)
Exile #7 - Was Not Able To Vote
Exile #8 - Voted Rey (Citizen)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Voted Almathea because she seemed panicky and wierd, and the fact that Jaya was thinking clearer than her. When Almathea was told that she was in trouble, she freaked out.

Exile #2 - +'d Faith because she was bothered by the Robert/Yvette plan. Talked to Iris and Faith about it, and thought that Faith was sketchier. Thought Paris was too 'out of the loop' to be a Spy. "Oh, I knew that Mei Yun had gotten votes in the first episode and I didn't think she should be exiled at all. I would have moved my (-) vote if I had time, because it didn't turn out she was in too much danger. But I really didn't want to protect Iris, Paris or anyone else."

Exile #3 - Voted Yvette because she found her reaction at Paris's Exile to be suspicious. Claims all other evidence was her being wierd.

Exile #4 - Voted Georgia because she felt like she was causing trouble rather than trying to find Spies. Voted Faith because she was lurking and not making arguments against people. Thought that Donald was sketchier than the other major Exile candidate, myself. Her final list was as follows:

1: Georgia
2: Iris
3: Faith
4: Khaled
5: Donald
6: Kirsten
7: Boris
8: Levi
--possibly spies, but valuable if cits---
9: Ariel
10: Rey
---probably not spies---
11: William
12: Amelia
13: Ed
14: Gretchen
15: Thor
16: Tiberius
17: Roxy
18: Mirela
19: Pete
20: Ellis
21: Oswald
22: Jason

Exile #5 - Before this Exile, she found Faith's actions to be very citizen-like. Iris claimed to be mad in Episode 4, but the anger did not carry over into episode 5. She joked around instead of catching Spies. Therefore, Jenya voted Iris.

Exile #6 - Voted Iris because her role claim was completely phony. In particular, the part where she was forced to lie.

Exile #7 - Would have pushed Amelia to save Thor.

Exile #8 - Voted Rey because he had acted weird all game. A complete summary can be found in the Rey is a Spy thread.

Spy Picks

Khaled - "Khaled.. he hasn't tried at all to catch spies since Episode 4. At all. He's like Iris was."

Ariel - "Ariel.. she hasn't tried to find spies, except her Rey case.

Boris - "And Boris, same story as Khaled.. he hasn't done jack. Always seems to be very conscious of how people view him."

Personal Thoughts

Jenya has some major citizen points. For one, she knew about Ellis for a long time, and he didn't get Imprisoned until a while later. She also voted for Almathea and Iris. But her answers bother me somewhat. During our interview, it took her a long time to come up with some of these answers. She had excuses (answered the door, was typing up a Spy list in the Burg), but her explanations for the Spy picks were fairly weak. I don't suspect her for this that much, but it is definitely an interesting point to be made.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Mei Yun's Court - Voted Mei Yun (Citizen)
Exile #2 - Team Alive - +'d Ariel (Unknown), -'d Kirsten (Unknown)
Exile #3 - Voted Donald (Spy)
Exile #4 - Voted Levi (Citizen)
Exile #5 - Voted Jenya (Unknown)
Exile #6 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Blocked Rey (Citizen)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - "I thought she was deflecting and purposefully not answering questions. She kept slipping in and out of character. How she acted on AIM, and even between posts. There was a difference. Some were in the form of like a chat speaker, incoherent. While others were quite intelligent sounding and easy to follow."

Exile #2 - "I minused Kirsten, because I thought her the most innocent. I plused Ariel because I thought her survial was suspicious. and I thought I was going to go, so didn't feel tied down by trying to save myself. So I voted for whom I thought was a spy."

Exile #3 - "Because I thought he was too quick to hop on things. In episode one, during a chat. I thought I had found a lie or inconsistency in regards to something you said. I said this in the chat, and Mei commented on it - which ended up in a sort of argument, and her posting that chat transcript between the two of you. Mei asked/demanded if they could count on me to confront you about it. Donald hopped on it pretty quickly. It was also due to the fact - which I know I've mentioned. That when he voted for someone, he wouldn't give his reasons why, or present his case until the next episode."

Exile #4 - "Because you are a spy. lol I can't say whether or not I would've voted Donald then, because I didn't consider it since he was away. I mean, I could say. Fuck yeah I would've voted for him, he was such an obvious spy blah blah blah"

Exile #5 - "She would ask a lot of questions. Which yeah is good. But whenever I would try to ask her questions, she would turn it back around to me. She is guilty of twisting words. She even did it to my face. I also found her a huge hypocrite. I think she said on one or two occasions that I was an antagonizer. But she was guilty of the same thing - she just "sugar coated" it.

Exile #6 - "Because by the time of the vote, she was an obvious spy. Well, really it was by the time the episode started. Her role circumstances were fake. I asked her question about the circle of forgetfulness and things - and she chose not to answer them, by saying she already answered them in another thread. Which she didn't. If you are trying to defend yourself, and look like a citizen. You would answer any and all questions posed to you."

Exile #7 - "Because I thought him a spy. His behavior especially in regards to what I call the Jaya Party was fucked up. Well the entire situation was. Okay. Well I was sure that he was attacking you for reasons in which he was defending you way back when. In the "Leave Eye Spy" thred. I found it suspicious that he voted for Faith in numerous episodes, yet his case against her never developed. My reaction to the big secret bandwagon on him - is public."

Exile #8 - "I genuinely thought he was a citizen. Well it probably did somewhat, since some of the objections to things were my own thoughts. But in the grand scheme of things. I could vote however I wanted. I just had to try and make sure all views were represented in things, in terms of the DA."

NOTE: I asked her if blocking Rey had to do with her being the Devil's Advocate.

Spy Picks

Jenya - "She has Yvette's and Rey's mis-exiles at her feet. She has a knack for turning things. I don't think she is "cleared" in any sense of the matter, which some people might do or think."

Tiberius - "It would be nice if he were just a newbie, but he doesn't always act like a newbie. His excuses of not having enough time are getting old. He has a tendency to be swayed by someone, then go "damn, I should've trusted my gut". Well, then fucking trust your gut. Instead of continuing to use it as an excuse."

Amelia - "She has inconsistencies. Yes her claimed immunity might make her lean citizen. okay, well she isn't a newbie - she has admitted to playing mafia. So her behavior is too sketch. Mostly in regards to her AIM policy."

Personal Thoughts

Georgia is unique. She's had a confrontational playstyle all game, and she hasn't been afraid to make enemies. Her Spy picks have reasoning behind them, and she was fairly quick to give hte answers to all the questions. Overall, I see her as a Citizen, but I'm not completely sold on that idea at all.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Mei Yun's Court - Voted Levi (Citizen)
Exile #2 - Team Alive - +'d Gretchen (Unknown), -'d Ed (Citizen)
Exile #3 - Voted Levi (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #6 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Voted Rey (Citizen)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Did not like major cases for her team (Mei Yun, Roxy). Did not believe that he could have four suspects and not decide between them. Also thought he was ignoring her defenses to her arguments.

Exile #2 - +'d Gretchen because she wanted to Exile Roxy for information, but didn't seem to care if Roxy was a Spy. (E.g., there was a Roxy thread that Gretchen did not post in.) -'d Ed because she knew Ariel was voting him, but believed Ed to be a Citizen. Did not vote Jaya because she was gone for almost the entire episode. Decided vote based solely on what she saw in the Burg, and had little interaction with Jaya.

Exile #3 - Voted Levi because she wanted one of her suspects gone (myself or Donald), and I had accumulated self-votes. Also was waffling on Donald due to a post where he claimed to be getting too heated to defend himself. Believed that sounded like a frustrated Citizen. She did not feel that Yvette's actions made sense from a Spy perspective, and therefore defended her. (E.g. Why Imprison Robert after creating a huge Citizen ally?)

Exile #4 - Voted Donald because she had grilled Levi in chat and, quote, "and based on that plus a "gut read" you can say, I decided that I no longer thought he was a spy." Did not think that I would Imprison Mei Yun if we trusted each other.

Exile #5 - Voted Iris due to a process of eliminations. Her top four suspects that episode were Ed, Ariel, Faith, and William. Ed got Imprisoned, Tiberius leaked William's role to her, and she felt that Faith was a citizen from private chats. She felt that she had no chance on rallying an Ariel Exile, so she moved on to her fifth suspect, Iris. The main point against her was the "Irate Iris" post, where Iris said she'd have voted Donald but had never mentioned suspicions of Donald previously.

Exile #6 - Voted Iris because she lied about her role.

Exile #7 - Pushed Thor as a Spy because he constantly said he suspected Faith, but never did anything about it. Kirsten believed that the Iris-Thor chats were fake, and that he had no real reason to post them, except to try to clear himself. Also because of his stance on Iris in Episode 6 and how he changed his opinion of myself from Citizen to Spy in one episode.

Exile #8 - Voted Rey because of a lie surrounding him catching Iris. Also involved Viewergate. Agreed with Jenya's case. Did not like his constantly changing opinions of players.

Spy Picks

Gretchen - "Gretchen because she has done practically no spy hunting at all this game + she voted William episode 3 and was planning on voting him episode 4 despite having said that she felt William was cleared based on Jaya earlier in episode 3 + the reason I voted her in episode 2 with a "shrug" toward her recent actions where she's basically dropped the jolly fat gig and defended Rey adamantly as a citizen and a couple more "gut-like" reasons, such as me thinking she's a decent mafia player who is hiding behind a character and a few places where she's seemed "fake""

Khaled - "Underachiever. He had more stances in episode 2 than he does now. based on his claimed style of play, he should have a large amount of data right now and should be narrowing down the spies, yet last episode when I asked him who he was suspicious of he gave me a brush-aside answer of "everyone but Jenya" He also doesn't seem to be actively making any effort to find spies Does he not care? Is he a spy?

Boris - "Because he's Russian, and I hate Russians. Boris is similar to Khaled. He's a smart player with the capability to be useful, but simply is not. Also, he frequently admits that he's a spy or agrees that he's a spy, or whatever, which is starting to make me suspect him of just using it as a cover (Gretchen, same way)

My Thoughts

I trust Kirsten. I do not believe that she is a Spy. She was the driving force behind both the Donald and Iris Exiles. The only point I could conceivably bring against her is that she hasn't been Imprisoned yet, when she is the definition of Super Cit. But that is complete WIFOM, and my stance on her alignment remains.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Mei Yun's Court - Voted Mei Yun (Citizen)
Exile #2 - Team Alive - +'d Georgia (Unknown), -'d Pete (Unknown)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Voted Boris (Unknown)
Exile #6 - Voted Amelia (Unknown)
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Did Not Attend Meeting

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - "I voted Mei Yun because at the time she was the most suspicious. I found her to be trying too hard to be nice. Also, after Georgia posted about how Mei Yun "slipped" it rang a few bells in my head that didn't seem too right. Looks like I was wrong, however."

Exile #2 - +'d Georgia because she was antagonistic and said something to the effect of not caring if she went home. -'d Pete because of Ariel's plan to save Pete and Exile Jaya.

Exile #3 - Voted Yvette because Levi persuaded her to. Reasons cited: "a lot of shit against her," "the alma thing," and "the conversation with robert."

Exile #4 - Voted Donald for the "interview comment."

Exile #5 - Voted Boris because he wasn't posting evidence and made a comment about being "proud to be a bandwagoner."

Exile #7 - Was sworn into Operation Valhalla (other members Ariel, Kirsten, Mirela, Jason). Voted Thor because she thought he was bullshitting about not knowing Ellis's role, and thought that his conversations with Iris looked fake.

Exile #8 - Would have voted Amelia because of the immunity.


Spy Picks

Boris - Because he doesn't post evidence and was proud to be a bandwagoner.

Amelia - The immunity.

Kirsten - Because someone in Operation Valhalla has to be a Spy.

Personal Thoughts

While I disagree with some of Roxy's reasoning, and she has a different way of thought than other players, I think she is a Citizen. This also has to do with a gut read.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Mei Yun's Court - Voted Roxy (Unknown)
Exile #2 - Team To Be Alive - +'d Paris (Traitor), -'d Ellis (Citizen)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Ed (Citizen), Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Voted William (Citizen)
Exile #6 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #7 - Voted Amelia (Unknown)
Exile #8 - Voted Amelia at Pre-Exile Vote (Unknown)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Voted Roxy because she said something scummy, but he can't quite remember what it was.

Exile #2 - +'d Paris because he looked like a good suspect. He saw people shouting Paris's name, and Ellis told him to vote for Paris. Chalks this up to "heat of the moment" and "Lazy Boris Happy Fun Time." -'d Ellis because he trusted him and didn't want to see him go.

Exile #3 - Voted Yvette because of a long conversation with Jenya at the beginning of the episode. Claims to be one of the first people on the bandwagon, but didn't say anything about it. Also chalks this up to "Lazy Boris Happy Fun Time."

Exile #4 -

spies6Boris (9:47:13 AM): you convinced me?
spies6Boris (9:47:36 AM): i had eliminated people starting with those i didn't think were spies when i was building my list
spies6Boris (9:47:56 AM): i was left with a small number of people i either wasn't sure of or thought might be a spy
spies6Boris (9:48:20 AM): so donald and ed were wort of floating there, when you mentioned that ed looked suspicious
spies6Boris (9:48:27 AM): then i read your post and put him before donald

Exile #5 - Claims to have been in the same boat as Faith. They had both been lazy, and the reasons that Faith was getting accused were things that Boris was guilty of as well. Therefore, he could not have voted Faith that episode. Voted William because he thought he had a better chance of being scum than Faith, and he also had a better chance of going home than anyone else.

Exile #6 - Voted Iris because he didn't believe her claim. Claims to have been one of the early people to not believe her claim.

Exile #7 - Didn't think Thor was scum, and voted Amelia because of her connection to Iris.

Exile #8 - Didn't really think Rey was scum, even though he had Rey as his number two. Wanted Amelia out of the picture so that the Iris thing wouldn't be hanging over her head at endgame. He didn't think Rey was scum even though he told everyone about Jenya's fake role, but because this exile was all about compromising, he was willing to put him up at the top of his suspect list if that was what the rest of the Burg wanted. He wouldn't do that if Amelia had a shot at being Exiled. Real life circumstanced turned this plan into a mess, with him having to leave early because of his girlfriend.

Spy Picks

Amelia - Suspects her because of the Iris connection.

Mirela - Just because.

He could not give me his third Spy pick, but said it would be from the following list of people: Gretchen, Jenya, Levi, Tiberius

Personal Thoughts

First thing I notice is that one of his Spy picks is "just because." Later in a chat he clarified that he suspects her because she doesn't answer questions and is very scummy when giving responses . . . something that I disagree with. Also, he could not give me a single person, or even narrow down the final pick to less than four. He did not give me any reasoning behind that list either. He chalked up almost the entire first half of the game to "Lazy Boris Happy Fun Time." His reasoning is not very good for those votes, which I find suspicious. His voting record isn't that great as well, which leads me to believe that he is a Spy.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Stronghold - Voted Callahan (Citizen)
Exile #2 - Team To Be Alive - +'d Paris (Traitor), -'d Iris (Spy)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Levi (Citizen)
Exile #5 - Voted Faith (Citizen)
Exile #6 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Did Not Attend Meeting

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - This was her predecessor, so she can't give an answer.

Exile #2 - This was when she replaced into the game, so she had difficulty getting her bearings. Ellis told her that Paris was suspicious, as did many others, so she +'d Paris. -'d Iris because she liked her and didn't want to see her go home. She did not think that Iris was a Spy, and the only piece of evidence on her was the Robert/Yvette situation, which she did not investigate at that point.

Exile #3 - "Because Yvette was the most suspicious out of the four girls. I believed she purposefully invited three other girls (i don't understand why she invited so many) into her little plan. if she wanted this to be a secret why did she invite so many people? i thought she did it on purpose to frame the three."

Exile #4 - "Well I really hated you. My opinion on you has always been back and forth. Sometimes I think you were a spy, sometimes I think your a citizen. I can never really tell. I also was really upset you called me out during the challenge. In my mind I just thought one of the spies was taking advantage of a poorly played player to make it look like they were a spy"

Exile #5 - "She was the next suspicious on the list. After Yvette flipped Citizen, I decided Faith was person I should vote for next. I talked to her a lot in episode two, but after that she kind of vanished. SHe was never around, and she posted scarcely on the boards. It was only towards the end she became active, trying to defend herself I thought Iris was innnocent (based on the numerous conversations I had with her) and I thought Ariel was too, because she exiled two spies"

Exile #6 - "Well with Yvette and Faith gone I only had two options left. Ariel and Iris. Ariel I haven't really talked to, but I thought she was a citizen cause of the exiling of two spies. Iris on the other hand role claimed, which was extremely fishy. I looked up all my convos on Iris and I found several contradicting points. I posted my whole case on her in the forum mafia thread"

Exile #7 - Iris wanted to create an alliance with Mirela and Thor. Iris was a Spy. This Iris/Thor connection is what prompted Mirela to vote Thor.

Exile #8 - When asked if she would, she said she would not have blocked the Rey Exile. Her reasoning was that Jenya's case was very convincing, and that he was an instigator. According to her, he should have been Imprisoned long ago.

Spy Picks

Amelia - "based on her imprisonment immunity and hypocritcal actions."

Khaled - "because he hasn't done anything useful for the last like four episodes"

Boris - "because he hasn't really done much either"

Personal Thoughts

I've suspected Mirela in the past, but I do not think she is a Spy at the present time. During our interview, she was extremely forthcoming. The horrible voting record and the weak reasoning on the Spies prevent me from putting her anywhere near Citizen status, but there are three people whom I find more suspicious than her.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Clusterfuck - Voted Almathea (Spy)
Exile #2 - Team To Be Alive - +'d Paris (Traitor), -'d Mirela (Unknown)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Faith (Citizen), Amelia (Unknown)
Exile #5 - Voted Faith (Citizen)
Exile #6 - Did Not Vote
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Voted Rey (Citizen)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Voted Almathea because she suspected a different person each day, and if no one liked the suspect, she would move on. "all of her actions said "I'm a bad spy, hello" and it turns out she was"

Exile #2 - +'d Paris because he had a lot of connections to Almathea. -'d Mirela because he thought she was a citizen.

Exile #3 - Voted Yvette for the reasons stated in the Feminazi thread, and the fact that she would be a dangerous Spy.

Exile #4 - Did not want to vote William because he found out that William had a role. "Well, Amelia I've believed is a Spy for a while... Jenya has kind of made me less sure about that lately but she's still my top suspect left... and Faith... I honestly stoipped suspecting Faith, but like I said, it was to keep William"

Exile #5 - Voted Faith because of Iris's claim.

Exile #6 - Would have voted Iris.

Exile #7 - Voted Thor because he lied about when he discovered Jenya's "role."

Exile #8 - Voted Rey because he was scary. He made up false roles, started fights, and blabbed Jenya's "role" all over town.

Spy Picks

Amelia - "Ok, first... Amelia, based on old suspicions.... She's been very absent yet somehow in the know... like the Thor exile being a GREAT example."

Boris - "Second.... Going with Boris. He's been very shady and hasn't really done much Scum hunting that I've seen."

Roxy/Gretchen - "Honestly I don't have a good 3rd candidate right now. If I had to guess I'd go with an inactive/lurker type like Roxy, GTretchen, etc. but honestly I don't have a good reason for voting them right now"


Personal Thoughts

I have an overwhelming gut read on Jason that says cit. The shoddy voting record does make me doubt this, but for now I believe he is a citizen.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Stronghold - Voted Callahan (Citizen)
Exile #2 - Team To Be Alive - +'d Iris (Spy), -'d Me (Citizen)
Exile #3 - Voted Amelia (Unknown)
Exile #4 - Voted Jenya (Unknown), Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Voted Faith (Citizen)
Exile #6 - Voted Iris (Spy)
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Did Not Vote

Vote Reasoning

Exile #1 - Voted Callahan because he said that him and Khaled could make up roles to save themselves. Wanted to change to Iris, but was too late.

Exile #2 - +'d Iris because of the secret group plot that emerged during Episode 2. When he asked Iris, she gave a complete WIFOM answer. -'d me because of Ellis's plan.

Exile #3 - "Well, there was that bizarre post of Amelia's in the thread about Yvette, where she attacked Kirsten for one-line-out of place. I concluded that there was a reasonable chance, based on that post, that if Yvette was a spy, Amelia was also. The converse of that holds, but not as strongly. In any case, I was basically more willing to risk Amelia being a cit than Yvette being a cit."

Exile #4 - "Jenya I thought was a little shady in how she acted post-Yvette's exile, for the most part. I knew the vote on her wouldn't stick to the end, so I put her first to make a point more than anything. PS, I had Iris at #2 there, though there's no official record of that. As far as Donald goes, I was torn between him and you at the 3-spot. My original order was Jenya, Iris, you, Faith, Donald. But while I knew I had thought it through enough, I wasn't completely sold on it. And I didn't like it--so I ended up switching yours and Donald's places."

Exile #5 - This was when William came out with his role to Khaled. Was torn between Faith and Iris, and went with Faith after the role claim to give time to evaluate said claim.

Exile #6 - "Hah. It all goes back to the WIFOMy defense, the bizarre confessional post, the terribly thought out roleclaim, etc."

Exile #7 - "That was probably a mistake on my part, but I secretly voiced early suspicion of him to either Kirsten or Ariel. In the episode, at least. I knew that he was questionable, to say the least, based on his voting record. Hadn't talked to him much, which was the second mistake. Third mistake was, rather than posting a thing about him in the burg, I sent a PM to Jason and Ariel telling them to post it, since I was going to be gone for the day (sent it on the morning of the exile). Basically, that whole episode was me being stupid."

Exile #8 - Thinks he would have stopped the Rey exile, but might not have considering the Exile went on for five hours.

Spy Picks

Mirela - "I'm convinced at this point Mirela is a spy. If she wasn't, then the starting game was broken."

Amelia - "Amelia's definitely questionable in her play all along. The imprisonment immunity thing seems weird. Iris knowing about it seems also weird. It doesn't all add up."

One of Kirsten, Boris, Roxy, and Georgia -

NOTE: Here is where are conversation ended. I have inserted all info given by Khaled.

Personal Thoughts

Khaled really hasn't done anything useful all game. Sure, he was always convinced that one of Faith or Iris was a Spy, and was right about that. He too included a big list for his third pick without reasoning, and his reasoning for both Mirela and Amelia isn't very strong at all. I feel pretty comfortable saying he's a Spy at the moment.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Mei Yun's Court - Voted Kirsten (Unknown)
Exile #2 - Team To Be Alive - +'d Paris (Traitor), -'d Mei Yun (Citizen)
Exile #3 - Voted Donald (Spy)
Exile #4 - Voted Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Voted Faith (Citizen)
Exile #6 - Did Not Vote
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Did Not Attend Meeting

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - "Eh, originally she struck me as pushy and cutthroat, two qualities I've seen in successful Spies. We've since become good friends. Funny how these things work out." I didn't vote for Roxy because "At the time she was level-headed and after chatting with her on AIM I didn't read her as a Spy. The first Exiles are always the toughest and most random. If I had the knowledge I have now, back then, I would have voted for Donald, not Roxy."

Exile #2 - I +'d Paris because "He was acting shady and seemed to be trying to remain as neutral as possible -- something else successful Spies can do to avoid attention but stay suspicious enough to justify not being Imprisoned. But, truthfully, like many others, I +ed him for lack of a better suspect. Sometimes fate rewards stupidity." I -'d Mei Yun because "I was convinced she was a Cit. She was talkative, questioning without being rude, looking for Spies, posting in the forum and generally doing Cit-type things. I trusted her enough to tell her about my Immunity and I was still around, so that went a long way toward building trust as well."

Exile #3 - "The Yvette thing was a huge bandwagon from the get-go. Anyone with that many people voting for her has to have the Spies pushign it or at least standing aside and letting it happen." I voted Donald because "He seemed suspicious and at the time I was looking into a possible connection bewteen him and Kirsten."

Exile #4 - Same reasons as before.

Exile #5 - "well, I tried to look for a third in the William, Faith Exile, but it was very time consuming and no one else seemed interested in a third party; basically I ran out of time and had to run, but I'd been asked by Khaled not to Exile William and I honestly thought Faith was the more suspicious of the two, even though I didn't really think either was a Spy by the time I had to leave."

Exile #6 - Did Not Vote

Exile #7 - "I was desperate not to get Exiled; I heard about a secret case on Thor when Tibby mentioned it in the thread. I spoke with Rey and mentioned Thor and he said there was something in the works. So I left my vote on Thor, fully expecting to be one of a couple of people on him and then to get exiled myself."

Exile #8 - Would not have blocked Rey Exile. "Maybe it was just his playing style, but he seemed willing to demonstrate that he "knew what was going on" and that's usually a Spy tell."

Spy Picks

Boris - "Been a lurker since D1, now he's sort of in the game a bit, but he apologzies for lurking and not contributing, then continues to lurk and not contribute. HE strikes me as an under the radar Spy who is now forced to take an interest in teh game since there are only 3 left."

Tiberius - I mean, no one can be that much of a bandwagoner and inept about suspicions and such. There HAS to be more to it than that. And for so long non one suspected him at all and he's still around? Good Spy play is to off the ones that the Cits will not Exile. I think he's playing us with his "golly, gee guys" attitude.

Mirela/Gretchen - "and I'm torn between Mirela and Gretchen, I woud have said Mirela yesterday, but in looking at Gretchen's exchanges with people in the Burg, she just seems to be sassy for no reason, to the exclusion of answering questions. She waited awhile to answer questions (which isn't normally a problem, except that she *posted* that she was going to wait). Maybe she was getting her story straight with her Spy buddies? Her answers don't really satisfy."

Personal Thoughts

Amelia is a true wildcard. She is very inconsistant. Sometimes her posts make absolutely no sense, but other times (like in this interview), she's able to come out and give valid answers without hesitation. She is constantly in the know, despite being on AIM, and has some interesting claims involving immunities and penalty votes.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Clusterfuck - Voted Almathea (Spy)
Exile #2 - Team Alive - +'d Jaya (Spy), -'d Roxy (Unknown)
Exile #3 - Voted Yvette (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Me (Citizen)
Exile #5 - Voted Georgia (Unknown)
Exile #6 - Did Not Vote
Exile #7 - Voted Amelia (Unknown)
Exile #8 - Voted Rey (Citizen)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Suspected Almathea early on because of her play in pregame mafia, and discussed her with Rey. On the day of the Exile, he talked with Jason (he believes), who told him that Almathea was under a lot of heat. During a team chat, Almathea broke down and went into "freak out" mode. That is why he voted her.

Exile #2 - Claims to have been uninformed, and +
d Jaya because she was the only one that voted with Almathea. -'d Roxy because he identified with her trying to lose a Survivor mindset for a game of mafia. Felt pressed to - Pete due to Rey's campaign by Thor and Yvette.

Exile #3 - Claims to have brought up a lot of the ideas to Jason that he later used in the Feminazi case. Believed that said case was very solid. Thought that Yvette had created a character to use as a Spy shield, and thought that she had trapped Robert.

Exile #4 - Voted Levi because he didn't like the Donald case, and felt that the Leave Eye case was stronger. He initially hated the Donald case so much that he refused to believe that Donald was a Spy.

Exile #5 - When asked why he suspected Faith, he answered :"I really have no answer but what i told everyone, since the very first moments of the game, I had a painful gut feeling that screamed spy to me, combined with my desire to find that spy in the robert trap I actually persued that feeling" A last minute conversation with Faith persuaded him to vote Georgia, someone he disliked and mildly suspected, over her.

Exile #7 - "I wasn't online the day of. had I, there's a chance i might have sheeped along with the Thor vote had it been explained to me. I knew kirsten's case, but I didn't know there would be action take on it that exile. In fact i'm susprised, and very suspicious that it did. I voted Amelia for the reasons I'm pushing it now, because a citizen doesnt confirm a spy role unless framed, and a frame seems unlikely, and any loopholes in the second phrase is too small"

Exile #8 - Preferred an Amelia yet, but once he was filled in on the bullet points by Levi, he decided that Rey was scummy enough that he wouldn't block him. "but at the end there when I saw georgia and gretchen fighting, and what i saw as kangaroo court behaviour start, I became sorta starting to think about blocking again, but i didn't, i'm not 100% sure why even now, maybe it was that i was tired and annoyed like everyone else maybe it was that i was afraid of being supsicous, and this it he first time i've mentioned this outside confessionals, congrats on the scoop, because i became more interested in blocking ONCE people pointed out that if one person left Georgia wouldn't be enough, so if i anounced that i would block again RIGHT when that'd begin being discussed welll... i'd look icky. if rey turned out to be a spy in the end that'd make me look terrible. And citizens don't want to look like spies bra!"

Spy Picks

Amelia - "I've told you why, only add that TWO citizens have gone down seemingly to protect her"

Ariel - "I feel like she was the primary force behind the farce that was the exile of rey and the things that lead to it. Mainly the shady activity involved in it, the kangaroo courtin"

Boris - "Last one? Hmmm... If i had to vote for three people now I guess Boris would be my third, but i can't formulate a reason 100%"

Personal Thoughts

I think that Tiberius is a misguided Citizen. He feels very genuine in his reasoning, was very forthcoming with information, and gave valid reasons for two out of three Spies. I disagree with two out of his three picks, and his play isn't the strongest in the game, but I have an overwhelming gut feeling that he is a Citizen. Also note that in the early game Jaya called him out for something he said.

[Levi]

Voting Record

Exile #1 - Team Mei Yun's Court - Voted Roxy (Unknown)
Exile #2 - Team Alive - +'d Roxy (Unknown), -'d Kirsten (Unknown)
Exile #3 - Voted William (Citizen)
Exile #4 - Voted Donald (Spy)
Exile #5 - Did Not Vote
Exile #6 - Did Not Vote
Exile #7 - Voted Thor (Citizen)
Exile #8 - Voted Tiberius at Pre-Exile Vote (Unknown)

Voting Reasoning

Exile #1 - Voted Roxy because she did not like Kirsten or Mei Yun as Exile candidates, and chalks it up to "shit house standard exile one reasoning."

Exile #2 - +'d Roxy because she wanted to see how Roxy flipped. Thought it would be interesting if Roxy was a Spy. Did not vote Jaya because she had no clue about Jaya from reading up on her. If Roxy was a Spy, it would incriminate Ariel for saving her at the previous Exile. If Roxy was a Spy, Gretchen could look at the people who had voted Roxy as suspects (even though she herself voted Roxy.) Voted Kirsten because, quote, "at that point i trusted her and thought she was definitely a cit. based mostly on her efforts to find spies and make arguments. especially after being accused the first round herself. she could have just eased off... but she didn't. guess you could do that either way though. but yeah i was pretty sure she was a cit"

Exile #3 - Voted William because he was a lurker. Did not vote Yvette because she thought there was no way that Yvette was a Spy.

Exile #4 - Voted Donald because "something kirsten pointed out to me about william. can't remember exactly what it was. i think i have the chat saved somewhere. but she made a point, and i switched with about ten minutes to go before the exile. i think my vote was the decider. from memory. could be wrong though."

Exile #5/6 - Was away.

Exile #7 - Voted Thor because "to be honest i pretty much just went with what arguments were presented by kirsten in terms of some convos which she thought were faked between thor and iris. and he had been so erratic in terms of his presence in the burg that i thought he was almost "trying to hard" to appear citizen. and to be completely honest i hadn't caught up on all the reading from the episodes i missed. but i was about sixty percent comfortable with my vote. the least comfortable i have been thus far."

Side question "Why are you swayed by Kirsten so much?" - Gretchen trusts Kirsten, and claims to talk to her often. She believes that Kirsten knew about William's role, and that is why Kirsten persuaded her to vote Donald at Exile 4.

Exile #8 - Started by voting Tiberius at the pre-exile vote because she does not like his play style. Claims it is not the way a Citizen would play. Changed to add Mirela. Her explanation follows:

spies6gretchen2 (9:13:27 AM): nah she wasn't. ummmm.... not really. i think i just thought well why not? why leave tibby out there all by himself? haha.
spies6gretchen2 (9:13:30 AM): no wait. i lie.
spies6gretchen2 (9:13:35 AM): khaled.
spies6gretchen2 (9:13:39 AM): he brought her up.
spies6gretchen2 (9:13:51 AM): and i went hell yes i forgot about her!
spies6gretchen2 (9:13:59 AM): and that's when i added her onto my list.
spies6gretchen2 (9:14:05 AM): now it's all coming back.

Spy Picks

Tiberius - "he's suspicious and plays unlike any citizen in any game similar to this format i have ever seen." Claims that Tiberius's playstyle reminds her of this example: "i don't know if you play normal mafia, but in one of the versions i play, people who are mafia and have been away or haven't been paying attention will sometimes say something like "sorry guys brb" and idle and then come back and try and play all innocent and like they have no idea what's going on when actually their mafia buddies have been msn'ing them the whole time"

Mirela - "then mirela.... something about her makes my spy-dysense tingle - she's an idler and only responds to messages which accuse her. she hasn't actually contributed much to any helpful conversations and i don't think her voting record is any good. from memory."

Levi - Was not sure on anyone to fill the final spot. "sometimes i think you. then sometimes i don't. i don't think i would be willing to put you down in my top three and i don't have enough to put on you at this point to justify such a position either... i don't think it's anyone else from our group... unless it's roxy. but again not much to go on."

Personal Thoughts

I believe that Gretchen is the third and final Spy. At the start of my interview, she was joking and friendly, but when I mentioned that I grew suspicious of her, she completely changed her attitude. She called me a fool, and mentioned something to the effect of "What if you get Imprisoned?" The way she said it sounded like a soft-threat (but that's a very loose interpretation.) I also talked to her this morning, and she called me a dickhead for suspecting her. She's been going around telling people to vote her in what I assume to be a Spy gambit to get people not to vote her. I assume her dropping the character act is her knowing that those who don't take the game seriously are going to be targeted at this point, so she's starting to try to get involved.

[Levi]

As you all know, I said this would be a dramatic Spy fingering post.

I believe that I can give you the list of all the Spies that were in this game. Here they are:

It is my humble opinion that the three remaining Spies are Boris, Khaled, and Gretchen. I will now try to prove this to you.

My reasoning on all three will be coming in separate posts.

[Boris]

God damnit Levi you didn't interview the three people I really wanted to see (OK, maybe not Jason, but definitely Roxy and Amelia)

[Jenya]

Levi, honey, this is brilliant. I think you've turned the game around from two depressing exiles by doing this.

I also love how you do this thing:

Exile #4 - Voted Me (Citizen)

That made me laugh. I can't help but find you Citizenish. If you're a Spy, you have me totally fooled.

There's so much to take note of here. Anyone who doesn't read these interviews thoroughly should be flogged.

[Tiberius]

I haven't read it yet Levi but this is awesome

[Tiberius]

Jul 7, 2009 11:12:18 GMT -5 Levi said:

. At that time I didnt see Jenya or Rey as very tough competitors and so I didnt feel the need to negative them."

Heh?

[Tiberius]

Jul 7, 2009 11:12:18 GMT -5 Levi said:

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Amelia - "I have posted my thoughts on her, there is no way she is not a citizen. Goodnight."

Khaled - "I have had some recent thoughts about him, which I will probably confront him about first before going fully public, but, this is an interview, and I cant say no to such a pretty face as yours (urgh I cannot believe I just said that ) I want to know why Khaled said voting Thor would get more things accomplished. Why Jenya was the top of his list? Why did he believe voting off Amelia then Yvette be good? Assuming Amelia is a spy, voting her off, and then seeing her flip spy, looking back at the information, Amelia didnt defend Yvette as he himself said, surely that would make Yvette a citizen? Theres just a few logic slips in his own thoughts, which makes me wonder about him...."

Tiberius/Kirsten - "anyways, the third spy is a bit of a mystery to me, because, unfortunately I am not even sure about my second suspect, not really.....but, I would have to say I am looking at tiberius, not because of popular opinion, but, he did seem to switch to rey (and they were best buds for ages) he at least use to be very unsuspected and yet survived imprisonments, I dunno, its nothing solid, but, still, its like 'hmmmmm' and for similar reasons to kirsten because really she is clearly a smart girl that hasnt been imprisoned yet....but, that really could mean anything."

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That's twice in the interview he seems to mix up the words citizen and spy, first time it seemed he was joking about Iris being obviously a spy and so making a "Iris was obviously a citizen" sarcastic joke. But with Amelia... heh?

Not that this means much, but me and Rey stopped being best buds around the point of the Faith exile...

[Levi]

I now have Roxy's info to add!

Thanks for helping me out with the interviews, Jenya!

And thanks for all the compliments. I feel loved.

[Jason]

I want to be interviewed

[Gretchen]

I'd like to edit 3 things:

1) I used to somewhat trust Kirsten. That statement was used in the past tense.

2) I have not been going around telling "people" to vote for me. I told one person.

3) I did not get angry at you Levi, just frustrated. And I put it simply and it stands for you and anyone else who thinks I am a Spy - you are a dickhead.

[Levi]

Jul 7, 2009 18:20:53 GMT -5 Gretchen said:

I'd like to edit 3 things:

1) I used to somewhat trust Kirsten. That statement was used in the past tense.

2) I have not been going around telling "people" to vote for me. I told one person.

3) I did not get angry at you Levi, just frustrated. And I put it simply and it stands for you and anyone else who thinks I am a Spy - you are a dickhead.

Even though we may have a reputation for doing things the same, me and Boris are two different people.

[Gretchen]

Did I tell you to vote me Levi? I don't think I said that specifically. And how do you know I told Boris?

[Levi]

Jul 7, 2009 18:48:46 GMT -5 Gretchen said:

Did I tell you to vote me Levi? I don't think I said that specifically. And how do you know I told Boris?

He told me. And yes you did, expect a chatlog to be posted shortly.

[Gretchen]

spies6gretchen2 (12:33:45 AM): i want out. vote me out.

I stand corrected. 2 people.

[Levi]

spies6gretchen2 (9:28:37 AM): in short. if you think i am a spy you're a dickhead.
spies6gretchen2 (9:28:43 AM): harsh but true.
spies6gretchen2 (9:28:56 AM): but exile me.
spies6levi (9:29:35 AM): I have a question for you
spies6levi (9:29:45 AM): Why are you insulting me instead of defending yourself?
spies6levi (9:30:05 AM): It's sooooooo . . . out of character for you
spies6gretchen2 (9:30:38 AM): hah. you haven't spent much time with me since i have been back.
spies6gretchen2 (9:31:26 AM): i'm over this shit. i'm over not knowing what's going on and people trying to make themselves feel superior because they think they do.
spies6gretchen2 (9:31:39 AM): i want out. vote me out.

[Mirela]

Whoa, maybe Gretchen isn't so jolly after all?

[Kirsten]

But is she still fat?

[Levi]

Jul 7, 2009 19:45:43 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

But is she still fat?

Is the sky blue?