Iris might need an excuse guys.

[Pete]

Unfortunately in a conversation with Robert in her team, Iris made a slip saying that she had almost deleted her account yesterday.

Ah.

By saying this, I am not trying to make her feel bad or anything, anyone could have made a slip up at any point, and so we might as well get it other and done with, save her, and let it be a lesson to all of us.

We need to help her come up with a reason as to why she had almost deleted her account yesterday before she was meant to have had access to it.

One option open to us is giving her a fake role. The group will soon learn that spy roles have already been given out then why cant we say that one special citizen role had already been given out too. Obviously that means it cannot be an ordinary role because it begs the question why only her getting it early so...we might have to super-power it up, but we may not have to say that at all if necessary.

Another option is to lie and come up with an excuse, something that springs instantly to mind is to have her say that she was talking to Sam and maybe sent out a wrong email stating her intentions to quit or not play. Then say she exaggerated that and made that as a claim to try and prove a point to us about her computer deficiency. Who knows.

However, this news could also go from bad to worse. The chat had two other people in it, myself and Jaya. Both of us immediately froze when she said that and no-one spoke in that room for a good 30 seconds. I then made a remark about coming back from the loo and so either I had sucessfully distracted Robert, or the more likely scenario is that me and possibly even Jaya are now also knee deep.

[Amelia]

Is it possible to say she's in a diff time zone where "Yesterday" would have been today? I don't think that works, but I'm not good with that conversion.

[Jason]

Well, what time was everything sent out?? If it was extremely early this morning she could say that she lives in Japan or something and when to sleep right after and it's the next day now. Or... How exactly did she say it?? She could perhaps have played it off as if she created a personal account of her own and was talking about that instead of her character account. Or she could say that she was anxious to get into the game and managed to figure out her password somehow??
I'm not sure but I think any delayed explanation will seem like too obvious a cover up; it might be best to let it be and hope that Robert doesn't catch on or forgets about it.

[Iris]

Okay,. I've got a role claim that might cover it. Tell me what you guys think:

I am the Citizen anonymous benefactor. I have 3 "gifts" (one shots) to bestow on 3 players. The catch is, I have to pick the players I bestow them on before the game starts, so I have no clue to their alignment. That would be a reason for Sam to send me my message beforehand.

I'm allowed to "bestow" the gifts during the game, though. And Robert is on my team and he's one of the ones I picked to give a "gift" to (we'll have to brainstorm about what the gifts could be) and now I'm worried I made a poor choice.

[Iris]

Pete, I see we're on the same wavelength. Unless you tell me this role is something Sam would never do, I think it will work, but I have to be careful with the gifts.

In other words, how I'm envisioning this, if it were real: Sam sent me a PM last night explaining my role (I'll write the role based on the examples Ally provided in the other thread), and saying I had to pick three people NOW to bestow my gifts on at some point during the game. The actual gifts will get awarded during game time though.

[Iris]

Pete, Robert froze too and didn't say anything. You were the first person to speak after I slipped, actually.

This may be risky but it's just an idea to discuss. Maybe one of you (you and Jaya) comes out suspecting me due to the slip up? If we decide to go with my fake role claim, one of you maybe PM Robert and say, "Did you see how Iris may have slipped up during that chat before? She's on your team, isn't she? Maybe you should buddy up to her to see if you can get her to elaborate."

If he agrees then he'll be asking me questions and I can breadcrumb the role claim I'll have to make later.

If he didn't notice, then it's dangerous, but I suspect very strongly that he did notice.

[Almathea]

Right, this is one that people will be all over.

Make it look like you have a role; then breadcrumb it. Don't just claim.

can you put the chat transcript here?

[Iris]

Yes. Brb.

[Iris]

spies6Robert (12:40:27 PM): Hi guys
spies6pete (12:40:37 PM): hi robert
spies6pete (12:40:41 PM): and hi iris
spies6pete (12:40:48 PM): whats up you two?
spies6Robert (12:41:22 PM): Not a great deal. Just thought it was time I came into chat. :-)
spies6jaya (12:41:24 PM): hi robert & iris
spies6pete (12:41:46 PM): :-) to be fair though no a lots happened here
spies6iris (12:41:46 PM): Thanks for the invite, Robert. Hi Jaya and Pete, I'm Iris. :-)
spies6pete (12:42:57 PM): im trying to put this without offending, iris, your picture is slightly scary
spies6pete (12:43:03 PM):
spies6Robert (12:43:35 PM): I invited you? Well, there's AIM for you. I was just following the post's instructions...
spies6jaya (12:43:36 PM): not as scary as callahan's
spies6iris (12:43:48 PM): LOL...Pete, no offense taken, it IS! I had my own pic picked out, but I didn't realize we were supposed to send it to Sam beforehand, so I didn't get to use it.
spies6iris (12:43:55 PM): Callahan's? Have to go look.
spies6pete (12:44:06 PM): he was ultra scary guy
spies6jaya (12:44:18 PM): with eyeliner
spies6iris (12:44:38 PM): Oh, okay, I remember now. :-)
spies6pete (12:45:06 PM): looking forward to tonight?
spies6iris (12:47:05 PM): I am...excited but nervous, as it's my first game.
spies6Robert (12:47:07 PM): Iris doesn't look that scary to me...
spies6pete (12:47:28 PM): well, not so much scary, more....daughnting
spies6pete (12:47:41 PM): daugnting? daungting?
spies6pete (12:47:43 PM): whatever
spies6Robert (12:47:57 PM): It'll be interesting. I guess we get to see which faction wins the game tonight eh?
spies6pete (12:48:20 PM): eh?
spies6Robert (12:48:27 PM): You know... when the roles are given out?
spies6Robert (12:48:36 PM): And we find out which side I sit on? ;-)
spies6pete (12:48:42 PM): ....
spies6iris (12:48:57 PM): LOL.
spies6Robert (12:51:08 PM): Invited iris back.
spies6iris (12:51:14 PM): Thank you! Duh...closed the window and lost it.
spies6pete (12:51:17 PM): wb iris
spies6iris (12:51:53 PM): Thanks. You guys might as know I'm technologically clueless. I almost deleted my Spies 6 account last night.
spies6pete (12:54:04 PM): hi guys, sorry just had to run to the loo
spies6Robert (12:54:22 PM): You mean you had to discuss what you was going to say with your fellow spies before talking?
spies6Robert (12:54:26 PM): We're onto you pete.
spies6pete (12:54:42 PM):
spies6pete (12:54:55 PM): well considering as we dont know our roles yet
spies6Robert (12:55:06 PM): That's just what a spy would want us to believe.
spies6pete (12:55:19 PM): yes yes exactly, I had you all under my control myahahaha
spies6pete (12:55:28 PM): or am I meant to be admitting that?
spies6jaya (12:55:53 PM): i'm trying to follow sam's instructions for loading a buddy list
spies6jaya (12:56:01 PM): has anyone tried it yet?
spies6pete (12:56:19 PM): oh, um no
spies6pete (12:56:25 PM): im just going to do it manually]
spies6Robert (12:57:36 PM): I jsut did it manually.
spies6pete (12:57:50 PM): yeah, the instructions seem a bit too complicated
spies6iris (12:57:54 PM): Are you guys adding everyone, or just the people on your team?
spies6pete (12:58:07 PM): my team, i think thats all were allowed to do
spies6Robert (12:58:39 PM): I added everyone
spies6Robert (12:58:43 PM): I thought we were supposed to
spies6pete (12:58:50 PM): oh let me doubel check
spies6Robert (12:59:05 PM): I thought it said just to do our team first, then the other two?
spies6pete (1:00:16 PM): *sigh* yep robert is right
spies6pete (1:00:19 PM): and im a plank
spies6jaya (1:00:21 PM): yep, i think it will be easier to add everyone manually
spies6jaya (1:01:39 PM): especially if i just wait till i see them and then can punch the +add button
spies6Robert (1:01:54 PM): That's a bloody lazy way to do it :-P
spies6Robert (1:02:05 PM): cutting and pasting only took me 2-3 minutes to set up all 3 teams
spies6jaya (1:02:05 PM): hehe
spies6pete (1:02:36 PM): to be honest I am in favour of jayas idea
spies6pete (1:02:51 PM): laziness is something i practise on a regular basis
spies6Robert (1:03:53 PM): so we shouldn't count on re-reads ;late in the game from you two...:-P
spies6jaya (1:04:16 PM): re-reads?
spies6iris (1:04:24 PM): What's a reread?
spies6Robert (1:04:44 PM): when you re-read peoples posts?
spies6Robert (1:04:50 PM): and your chat logs with them?
spies6jaya (1:04:58 PM): aahhhh
spies6Robert (1:05:02 PM): To try to work out their guilt or lack there of, plus connections?
spies6pete (1:05:35 PM): well, I will be saving all of my conversations
spies6jaya (1:06:05 PM): lol because they get logged automatically, but re-reading?
spies6pete (1:06:17 PM): and im sure theres some function on here that can save my chats automatically
spies6iris (1:06:23 PM): Sorry, guys, I have to bow out for now, unexpected visitors. See you all tonight, hopefully.

[Pete]

Robert freezing too is something I want to use, because if he ever claims that me or Jaya are suspicious for not picking up on it or commenting on it, well we can fire it back at him. So, he cant just willy nilly expose you, because he himself falls in trouble. I know that isnt very reassuring to Iris at the moment, because I'm trying to see a way that we can also use this to Iris benefit.

[Iris]

No, I'm cool, I was panicked before but I went to take a shower and I think I have a better idea of how to handle this.

If you guys think that my role claim as listed above makes sense, what I'm going to do is try to befriend Robert. Going after him will backfire...but if we get buddy-buddy...I can breadcrumb the role, buddy up to him which he will probably be amenable to if he thinks I'm a spy, and then say, "Okay, I'm probably taking a risk sharing this with you, but I have to know...you seem to have sought me out a bit...did you get info early on about something I might have done to you?"

[Judge Sam]

While there are going to be countless times where you have to watch what you say as not to slip secret information, that sounds like more of a board / technical issue to me rather than a game one. After all this is an unusual game and bringing spies together early is an unusual tactic and that's like a board/technical issue.


You can do whatever you want but I would like to note that lots of people created spies 6 accounts for this board before the game began. Some used them to talk in the viewers lounge, others didn't use em at all they just came here thought you needed an account and made one.


What might be said is that you were afraid you had given your alias away when you said that, and you thought you would be kicked out of the game if you revealed your alias like it says in the rules. Maybe your 'real' spies 6 account started with spies6 like spies6viewer, or maybe you created it just yesterday (and because maybe only one person made a spies 6 account yesterday or something it would reveal you), or maybe only 3-4 people with accounts have actually logged in the past day, and you can tell when people have logged in last by clicking their name, so that would practically reveal you, or something like that.


Tons of people are new to the spies series and new to how it works and haven't gotten the terminology down, and I don't think it was that bad considering lots of people have spies 6 accounts, which they often make look pretty by modifying the profile, and the modify profile is right next to the 'delete account' button on the bottom.

[Iris]

Okay, thanks, Sam, I will keep that in mind then and play it by ear.

[Donald]

The role claim is interesting, but highly risky. It may be better to claim something else...

As Sam said, others had created accounts on here. You could say you created an account on here, misunderstood the directions. You didn't realize Sam was providing the accounts for you. Then you almost deleted the account you made.

The only thing is you may have to provide the user name of the person you created. I'll look into that a bit, but since nobody can look at a list of the registered members, they can't see who is registered.

Iris, for this purpose, what were your other two choices for a character name?

[Pete]

Yes, I think what Donald and Sam said is your best bet Iris....but, your call

[Iris]

Okay, I will stick to what Donald and Sam suggested. The funny thing is, I DID create another account here, but I can't remember what it was called or what my password was.

My other two name choices were very similar. Irene and Irie, I think.

[Iris]

Okay, I was able to access the other account I created here. I can't say the name, though, because it's an alias I use on other mafia boards.

[Iris]

And because it was a recognizable alias, I never posted under it either.

[Donald]

That's perfect. Your story is practically completely true. If there's pressure over your slip in the chat, talk about how you created an account earlier and you almost deleted that account.

Obviously don't say what the name is, because that would give away your alias.

If they push about any.. odd behavior after you said that, you were nervous because you didn't want to mention the account name, because that would be revealing your alias and break the rules of the game.

Basically everything you say will be true, except which of your accounts you were referring to when you said you almost deleted it.

[Rey]

/fume
Still can't believe I didn't notice that.

[Ed]

Still can't believe that no one noticed that. It is truly unbelieveable.

[Donald]

I panicked when I saw that Robert posted that chat. I sounded our "spies emergency alarm" but thankfully that wasn't necessary.