Post by Tiberius on Jul 8, 2009 5:21:48 GMT -5
spies6ariel is available (5:07:39 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:39 PM): hi =_=
spies6Ariel (5:08:02 PM): Hi
spies6Tiberius (5:08:25 PM): ariel
spies6Tiberius (5:08:28 PM): do you know the term
spies6Ariel (5:08:29 PM): Tiberius
spies6Tiberius (5:08:32 PM): kangaroo court?
spies6Ariel (5:08:43 PM): No?
spies6Ariel is available (5:11:41 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:11:47 PM): A kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial, refers to a sham legal proceeding or court. The colloquial phrase "kangaroo court" is used to describe judicial proceedings that, the speaker feels, deny due process rights in the name of expediency. Such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible, e.g., hearsay, the right to exclude judges or jurors on the grounds of partiality or conflict of interest, and the right of appeal. The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.
spies6Ariel (5:12:28 PM): And..?
spies6Tiberius (5:12:41 PM): the consensus exile was one, the whole thing
spies6Tiberius (5:12:58 PM): and, imo, you were the primary force behind that ariel, and i'm displeased greatly
spies6Ariel (5:13:30 PM): You know, Tiberius, if I actually cared about your displeasure, I might be the slightest bit contrite
spies6Tiberius (5:14:09 PM): Nice Rey immitation there Ariel
spies6Ariel (5:14:50 PM): I have yet to insult you or bully you
spies6Ariel (5:15:05 PM): Just letting you know that I don't particularly care one way or the other if you're displeased with me
spies6Tiberius (5:15:11 PM): you stated you didnt care about my opinion, that's an insult
spies6Tiberius (5:15:13 PM): ok
spies6Tiberius (5:15:17 PM): well let me rephrase
spies6Tiberius (5:15:24 PM): i think it was scummy behaviour, NOW do you care?
spies6Ariel (5:15:33 PM): Not particularly
spies6Tiberius (5:16:12 PM): ugh
spies6Tiberius (5:16:13 PM): ok
spies6Ariel (5:16:23 PM): Sorry
spies6Ariel (5:16:36 PM): I'm not going to hide that I'm glad Rey and his drama are gone
spies6Ariel (5:16:44 PM):
spies6Tiberius (5:16:56 PM): yes i know
spies6Ariel (5:17:15 PM): And you realize, if you think my wanting Rey gone is scummy, ipso facto you have to think the same of Kirsten and Jenya.
spies6Tiberius (5:17:50 PM): i beleive you "rigged" the kangaroo court more than most there
spies6Tiberius (5:17:57 PM): but i do have less trust in the both of them after that
spies6Ariel (5:18:02 PM): ...hahaha.
spies6Tiberius (5:18:24 PM): i identify, i've said before i WISH i could exile georgia, so identify with your feelings there
spies6Tiberius (5:18:46 PM): but the whole thing was just a mock trail to get rey out, and i should have gone by my gut and blocked it
spies6Ariel (5:18:58 PM): And you blame me for it, because....?
spies6Ariel (5:19:13 PM): I mean, I'm flattered that you think I have that much influence, but do you happen to remember what happened when I called Rey out?
spies6Ariel (5:19:38 PM): It took Kirsten and Jenya's support to get people to even consider Rey
spies6Tiberius (5:21:33 PM): hm...
spies6Tiberius (5:21:36 PM): that's a good point ariel
spies6Tiberius (5:22:06 PM): but honestly, i felt like you were the driving force behind the kangaroo court itself, that's the FEELING i get, sadly i can't back it up yet
spies6Ariel (5:22:41 PM): Yes, I wanted Rey gone and did all in my power to make it happen. So?
spies6Ariel (5:23:31 PM): Even if he wasn't a Spy, the real Spies can't hide behind the drama he creates anymore. That can only be a good thing.
spies6Ariel (5:23:38 PM): And don't tell me you've never been wrong before.
spies6Tiberius (5:23:54 PM): I said the same thing about Georgia all the time Ariel, but i didnt practically lead an exile on her
spies6Tiberius (5:24:00 PM): no, i've been wrong
spies6Ariel (5:25:31 PM): Be honest, Tiberius.
spies6Ariel (5:25:31 PM): The only reason you're so hot on the fact that I "practically lead" the Exile is that I've been on Rey's back since practically Episode 1.
spies6Tiberius (5:25:59 PM): well are you saying that's a bad reason?
spies6Ariel (5:26:26 PM): Yes, I am.
spies6Ariel (5:26:34 PM): Take another look at the actual exile.
spies6Tiberius (5:28:30 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:28:37 PM): let's use your actual minutes shall we?
spies6Tiberius (5:28:51 PM): Proposal - Pre-Exile votes used in the event of someone losing their vote due to inactivity.
Proposed by: Ariel
Blocked by: Jenya, Rey, Boris
Motion denied. [O my... look at that, most of hte prexile votes were rey ones]
spies6Ariel (5:29:16 PM): Yes, and that was the main reason I proposed that particular proposal.
spies6Ariel (5:29:17 PM): What's your point?
spies6Tiberius (5:29:23 PM): so
spies6Tiberius (5:29:42 PM): you wanted to make sure that people could use votes they made before getting all the possible information on that exile?
spies6Tiberius (5:29:44 PM): dirty...
spies6Ariel (5:29:52 PM): XD
spies6Ariel (5:29:58 PM): You do realize, you're making no sense?
spies6Ariel (5:30:19 PM): How is it dirty to want people to still have a say in Exile if they, say, accidentally D/Ced due to a power outage?
spies6Ariel (5:30:25 PM): (Which is exactly what happened to me <_<
spies6Tiberius (5:37:13 PM): ugh, sorry, phone
spies6Tiberius (5:37:15 PM): one sec
spies6Ariel is available (5:40:31 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:41:51 PM): ok
spies6Ariel is available (5:41:51 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:41:52 PM): back
spies6Ariel (5:42:02 PM): Welcome back.
spies6Tiberius (5:42:45 PM): it's dirty because those are uninformed votes, also, because you weren't being altruistic since had the majority been for someone else you wouldnt have proposed that
spies6Ariel (5:43:25 PM): I wouldn't have?
spies6Ariel (5:43:34 PM): I wasn't aware you were in my head, Tiberius.
spies6Tiberius (5:43:52 PM): you already said that
spies6Tiberius (5:43:57 PM): spies6Ariel (5:29:16 PM): Yes, and that was the main reason I proposed that particular proposal.
spies6Ariel (5:44:04 PM): "Main."
spies6Tiberius (5:44:08 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:44:15 PM): wthout your main reason, would you still have?
spies6Ariel (5:44:35 PM): Obviously I would have, otherwise I wouldn't be irritated that you think you know what I would have or would not have done in a particular circumstance.
spies6Ariel (5:44:58 PM): Way to imitate Rey, Tiberius.
spies6Tiberius (5:45:43 PM): there's no way to prove that you would have and i'm pretty sure you wouldnt have, but ok
spies6Ariel (5:45:59 PM): You can be "pretty sure" all you like.
spies6Tiberius (5:46:08 PM): like i was telling kirsten
spies6Tiberius (5:46:18 PM): my suspcious is unsubstaintiated, but i have more
spies6Tiberius (5:46:44 PM): okso
spies6Tiberius (5:47:01 PM): Proposal: Those voting Rey say why, and allow him to address the concerns.
Proposed by: Rey
Seconded by: Levi
Thirded by: Pete
Blocked by: Kirsten, Ariel, Boris
Motion denied. [I'm confused, was it because something else was happening at the time? Why would you block that?]
spies6Ariel (5:47:39 PM): That was blocked because Gretchen had to leave soon, so we blocked that proposal to allow her to go first.
spies6Tiberius (5:47:54 PM): ok
spies6Tiberius (5:48:00 PM): no here's
spies6Tiberius (5:48:06 PM): where you really start to make me angry
spies6Ariel (5:48:20 PM): (Don't worry, Tiberius, we're even; you've already pissed me off )
spies6Tiberius (5:48:53 PM): Proposal: Kirsten puts Rey on probation for spamming.
Proposed by: Ariel
Seconded by: None
Thirded by: None
Blocked by: Levi, Boris, Rey
Motion denied. [Silencing a suspect, a primary suspect, no matter how annoying they're being, is just plain wrong, and part of the kangaroo courtage, i'm so glad people were smart enough to at least block that]
spies6Ariel (5:49:23 PM): He was SPAMMING, and muddying the proceedings.
spies6Ariel (5:49:40 PM): And what was being talked about right then had nothing to do with him.
spies6Ariel (5:50:04 PM): Silencing was the only disciplinary power that the Facilitator had.
spies6Tiberius (5:50:23 PM): here's the thing though
spies6Tiberius (5:50:58 PM): it happened again, only it was proposed by Levi this time, but shock and awe you seconded it, and again, only this time levi proposed that jason intervene
spies6Tiberius (5:51:03 PM): and... you seconded
spies6Tiberius (5:51:31 PM): and then... lol, rey jockingly proposes that he be silenced, and SHOCK you second
spies6Tiberius (5:51:38 PM): *third, whatever
spies6Ariel (5:51:39 PM): All you're proving is that I didn't like Rey. Surprise! I didn't.
spies6Ariel (5:52:13 PM): Are you seriously using my wish to stop Rey's spamfest as evidence of me being scum?
spies6Tiberius (5:53:39 PM): i'm proving that you wanted to make sure that your citizen exile for that round was silenced
spies6Ariel (5:54:00 PM): ....-headdesk-
spies6Tiberius (5:54:37 PM): pass it off however you want to ariel
spies6Tiberius (5:54:40 PM): it was bullshit
spies6Ariel (5:54:55 PM): You are, of course, free to think that.
spies6Tiberius (5:56:38 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:56:39 PM): on that note
spies6Tiberius (5:56:43 PM): i must take leave but
spies6Tiberius (5:56:50 PM): adios
spies6Ariel (5:57:01 PM): Bye.
spies6kirsten is available (4:42:41 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:42:41 PM): well, my presence was requested by levi, but her isnt here
spies6Tiberius (4:42:51 PM): hi kirsten
spies6Kirsten (4:42:53 PM): yeah, he just left
spies6Kirsten (4:42:54 PM): Hello
spies6Kirsten (4:42:59 PM): I wanted to ask you a question
spies6Tiberius (4:43:02 PM): sure
spies6Kirsten (4:43:10 PM): where did you hear the term LaL?
spies6Kirsten (4:43:13 PM): if you'v enever played mafia
spies6Tiberius (4:43:20 PM): in this game
spies6Tiberius (4:43:29 PM): i abreviated it myself since hearing it early on
spies6Tiberius (4:43:40 PM): i heard the term in pregame mafia
spies6Tiberius (4:43:46 PM): but abbrieviated it myself
spies6Kirsten (4:43:53 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (4:44:02 PM): well, that is the standard abbreviation used
spies6Kirsten (4:44:07 PM): it surprised me when you used it
spies6Kirsten (4:44:20 PM): you're not lying about your mafia experience are you?
spies6Tiberius (4:44:29 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (4:44:30 PM): or maybe we'd have to use LaL on you
spies6Kirsten (4:44:31 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:44:34 PM): lolz
spies6Tiberius (4:44:46 PM): no i'm a first timer with forum mafia
spies6Tiberius (4:44:57 PM): as i explained during the time i defended roxy
spies6Tiberius (4:45:03 PM): me and her come from the same background
spies6Tiberius (4:45:05 PM): survivor
spies6Kirsten (4:45:06 PM): right, that is what I had recalled
spies6Tiberius (4:45:09 PM): first forum mafia game
spies6Tiberius (4:45:29 PM): i just adapted to the terms faster, though obviously not the work load XD
spies6Kirsten (4:45:42 PM): this game has a higher workload than a game of forum mafia
spies6Kirsten (4:45:47 PM): by a long shot
spies6Tiberius (4:46:24 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:46:47 PM): i checked out the... place rey and other kept mentioning at it seemed a bit less so
spies6Tiberius (4:46:48 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:47:59 PM): good catch though Kirsten
spies6Kirsten (4:48:03 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:48:17 PM): IGMEOY
spies6Tiberius (4:49:18 PM): see
spies6Tiberius (4:49:21 PM): that one i dont know XD
spies6Kirsten (4:49:31 PM): sure you don't
spies6Kirsten (4:49:37 PM): of course
spies6Tiberius (4:49:40 PM): no seriously =_=
spies6Kirsten (4:49:51 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:49:55 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:50:14 PM): ... no seriously tell me =_=
spies6Kirsten is available (4:50:39 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:50:48 PM): sorry, bad connection
spies6Kirsten is available (4:50:48 PM)
spies6Kirsten (4:51:07 PM): so you are dead set on Amelia and nothing can sway you?
spies6Kirsten (4:51:16 PM): are you that sure she's a spy?
spies6Kirsten (4:51:21 PM): or is it the princple of the matter?
spies6Tiberius (4:51:31 PM): tell me the godamn acyonym first =_=
spies6Tiberius (4:51:36 PM): then i'll explain XD
spies6Kirsten (4:51:53 PM): I got my eye on you
spies6Tiberius (4:52:02 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (4:52:03 PM): makes sense
spies6Kirsten (4:52:05 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:52:19 PM): will
spies6Tiberius (4:52:36 PM): the genius of "chubby caser" at last come to light?
spies6Kirsten (4:52:46 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:52:50 PM): not now, no
spies6Tiberius (4:52:58 PM): well alright
spies6Tiberius (4:53:00 PM): as for amelia
spies6Kirsten (4:53:12 PM): but healthy skepticism does a body good
spies6Tiberius (4:53:20 PM): indeed
spies6Tiberius (4:53:32 PM): i dont feel the people who people actually listen to do that enough towards me XD
spies6Tiberius (4:54:24 PM): yes, there is very little chance of me NOT voting amelia, because i believe there's such a small chance of her not being a spy based on what we know, combined with yes... the principal of the thing that you mentioned
spies6Tiberius (4:54:45 PM): i'm tired of loopholes when it comes to here, because ijust think they're so small
spies6Tiberius (4:54:53 PM): and yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:55:00 PM): i let myself get convinced of something i ddint believe
spies6Tiberius (4:55:10 PM): and people call me a sheep, that was my sheepiest moment imo
spies6Kirsten (4:55:11 PM): regarding Rey?
spies6Tiberius (4:55:13 PM): well fuck it
spies6Tiberius (4:55:13 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (4:55:17 PM): that whole thing by the way
spies6Tiberius (4:55:23 PM): was a frggen kangaroo court
spies6Kirsten (4:55:37 PM): I'm not familiar with the term Kangaroo court
spies6Kirsten (4:55:49 PM): but if it refers to 5 and a half hours of madness, then I agree
spies6Tiberius (4:55:56 PM): one sec
spies6Tiberius (4:56:16 PM): A kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial, refers to a sham legal proceeding or court. The colloquial phrase "kangaroo court" is used to describe judicial proceedings that, the speaker feels, deny due process rights in the name of expediency. Such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible, e.g., hearsay, the right to exclude judges or jurors on the grounds of partiality or conflict of interest, and the right of appeal. The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.
spies6Tiberius (4:56:25 PM): i feel like the whole thing was just one long rey-trap
spies6Tiberius (4:56:45 PM): and i was SO close to blocking at the end there, my gut and brain were telling me to... but i didnt and i still dont know why
spies6Kirsten (4:57:13 PM): that's pretty much true
spies6Kirsten (4:57:23 PM): the voting system was not designed to allow ample defense
spies6Kirsten (4:57:28 PM): or ample accusations
spies6Kirsten (4:57:31 PM): etc.
spies6Kirsten (4:57:59 PM): If you had blocked, then we would have had to settle on another target...I wonder how that would have gone
spies6Kirsten (4:58:13 PM): Amelia might have been exiled, though i would have blocked
spies6Kirsten (4:58:24 PM): I would have proposed Gretchen or Khaled, but I assume others would have blocked
spies6Tiberius (4:58:45 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:59:28 PM): also, as i think i actually vocalized, i was SORTA annoyed with what i saw as rule lawyering with the "let's wait for someone to leave so georgia cant stop anything"
spies6Kirsten (4:59:50 PM): yeah, i think you mentioned that
spies6Tiberius (5:00:40 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (5:00:42 PM): and i should tell you
spies6Tiberius (5:01:20 PM): that i trust you less after that exile, but i still am PRETTY sure you're a citizen, but after being the driving force behind thor and a pretty distinct supporter of rey you have to have expected that
spies6Kirsten (5:01:28 PM): Yep
spies6Kirsten (5:01:30 PM): I do expect it
spies6Kirsten (5:01:43 PM): and I'm still a citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:01:45 PM): though I have been shamed
spies6Kirsten (5:01:50 PM): twice wrong
spies6Tiberius (5:02:28 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:02:36 PM): jason drove a yvette exile, and i still believe him citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:02:52 PM): if Amelia is a spy, then I will expect more suspicion toward me
spies6Tiberius (5:03:04 PM): so i'm not ready to PERSUE anything there yet, but ehem, to quote a wise woman, IGMEOY
spies6Kirsten (5:03:10 PM): haha
spies6Tiberius (5:03:12 PM): yes, because you bassically saved her twice
spies6Kirsten (5:03:32 PM): and right now, I'm not sold on her being a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:03:39 PM): will I save her a 3rd time?
spies6Kirsten (5:03:42 PM): stay tuned!
spies6Kirsten is available (5:05:59 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:06:05 PM): please don't kirsten, godamn you.
spies6Kirsten (5:06:15 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:06:23 PM): what if Amelia is a citizen?
spies6Tiberius (5:06:33 PM): what if what if
spies6Tiberius (5:06:37 PM): blah blah blah
spies6Kirsten is available (5:07:07 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:09 PM): 1. She confirmed a spy role 2. There were no role actions on episode oneGODFRIGGEN DAMNIT
spies6Kirsten is available (5:11:41 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:11:57 PM): ugh
spies6Tiberius (5:12:01 PM): friggen connection
spies6Kirsten (5:12:30 PM): confirming a spy role isn't damning
spies6Kirsten (5:12:41 PM): if you had a spy role that gave me exile immunity, then I would confirm it by being exile immune
spies6Kirsten (5:12:51 PM): no role actions episode 1 might be damning
spies6Kirsten (5:12:58 PM): it depends...did Iris have the role or not?
spies6Kirsten (5:13:08 PM): it's possible Iris did have the role, and just fudged some of the details
spies6Tiberius (5:13:38 PM): those, to me, minescule loopholes are not going to be enough for me anymore, i'm simplyfing, KISSing it up yo
spies6Kirsten (5:20:00 PM): is there anyone else besides Amelia you are suspicious of?
spies6Tiberius (5:20:29 PM): for now i'm concentrating on amelia
spies6Tiberius (5:20:57 PM): but yes, ariel and me are currently arguing about my suspicions of her
spies6Kirsten (5:21:43 PM): that, I am actually aware of
spies6Kirsten (5:21:56 PM): Ariel seemed...displeased...about you likening her to a driving force behind a kangaroo court
spies6Tiberius (5:22:14 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:22:17 PM): it's how i feel
spies6Tiberius (5:22:28 PM): ... sadly i can't substantiate it
spies6Kirsten (5:23:14 PM): Ariel is a good suspect
spies6Kirsten (5:23:28 PM): the question is: was she faking her Rey suspicion or not?
spies6Tiberius (5:24:43 PM): i dislike her feelings towards being HAPPY about the rey exile... i dont think a spy would be that open about it, so
spies6Tiberius (5:25:14 PM): i feel like she was building up her case as long as she could, sticking by it
spies6Tiberius (5:25:21 PM): and then it got support, and it happened
spies6Tiberius (5:25:24 PM): but she WAS the originator
spies6Kirsten (5:27:19 PM): spies6Tiberius (2:02:44 PM): jason drove a yvette exile, and i still believe him citizen
spies6Tiberius (5:27:34 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (5:27:38 PM): i know
spies6Tiberius (5:27:54 PM): which is why i keep saying my ariel suspicion is a bit unsubstantiated
spies6Kirsten (5:31:10 PM): so besides Ariel and Amelia
spies6Kirsten (5:31:17 PM): let's say Amelia is a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:31:20 PM): where do you look next?
spies6Kirsten (5:31:24 PM): if she's a cit, where do you look next?
spies6Tiberius (5:37:19 PM): one sec
spies6Tiberius (5:37:20 PM): phone
spies6Tiberius (5:37:21 PM): sorry
spies6Kirsten is available (5:40:31 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:42:49 PM): back
spies6Kirsten is available (5:42:49 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:42:51 PM): hmmm
spies6Tiberius (5:43:36 PM): honestly... i friggen dont know
spies6Kirsten (5:49:43 PM): you and ariel having fun?
spies6Tiberius (5:49:53 PM):
spies6Boris is available (4:45:28 PM)
spies6Boris (4:45:28 PM): omg tiberius
spies6Tiberius (4:45:32 PM): hello
spies6Boris (4:45:33 PM): like, how are you
spies6Tiberius (4:45:38 PM): like, awesome
spies6Boris (4:45:43 PM): like, totally
spies6Tiberius (4:45:51 PM): like, and you?
spies6Boris (4:45:57 PM): like, meh
spies6Tiberius (4:46:52 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:46:55 PM): you should be awesome like me
spies6Boris (4:46:57 PM): how do you feel about rey going bye bye?
spies6Boris (4:47:02 PM): i have no right to be awesome
spies6Tiberius (4:47:12 PM): i'm not happy about that
spies6Tiberius (4:47:17 PM): as i've expressed
spies6Boris (4:47:31 PM): i imagine no one is happy about it
spies6Tiberius (4:47:32 PM): i voted yes, and i REALLY regret it, because i could have stopped it
spies6Tiberius (4:47:42 PM): and was one of the few who were willing to
spies6Boris (4:47:49 PM): then why did you vote yes?
spies6Tiberius (4:48:31 PM): levi's private AIM case made me PREFER an amelia lynch
spies6Tiberius (4:48:35 PM): but
spies6Tiberius (4:48:40 PM): be OK with a rey lynch
spies6Tiberius (4:48:43 PM): but near the end there
spies6Tiberius (4:48:46 PM): i got REALLY suspicious
spies6Tiberius (4:48:52 PM): that the whole thing was a kangaroo court
spies6Tiberius (4:48:59 PM): for rey's exile
spies6Tiberius (4:49:06 PM): and my gut was telling me to block
spies6Tiberius (4:49:07 PM): but i didnt
spies6Tiberius (4:49:12 PM): and i feel friggen stupid
spies6Boris (4:49:22 PM): aha
spies6Boris (4:49:35 PM): levi made a private aim case?
spies6Tiberius (4:49:58 PM): yeah, and i posted it in my new thread
spies6Boris (4:50:14 PM): oh that
spies6Boris is available (4:50:39 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:50:43 PM): basdically, he boiled jenya's case into bullet points for me... which is what i had been asking for all along
spies6Boris is available (4:50:43 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:52:51 PM): and yeah... it convinced me
spies6Boris (4:52:59 PM): hmm
spies6Tiberius (4:58:01 PM): do you know what a kangaroo court is bori?
spies6Boris (4:58:09 PM): i'm quite aware
spies6Boris (4:58:30 PM): do you think the people in the exile were manipulating it because they thought he was scum or because they were scum?
spies6Tiberius (4:59:51 PM): i think it was a scum driven exile boris
spies6Tiberius (5:00:04 PM): but they were manipulating misguided citizens too
spies6Boris (5:00:08 PM): which one's in particular?
spies6Boris (5:00:21 PM): there were quite a few people driving the case home
spies6Boris (5:00:31 PM): you had levi with his case telling you to basically get rid of rey
spies6Tiberius (5:00:31 PM): i'm very very wary of ariel now, and this is the first time i've distrusted kirsten in awhile
spies6Tiberius (5:00:36 PM): and yes
spies6Tiberius (5:00:37 PM): levi
spies6Boris (5:01:39 PM): jenya basically came back from the dead and lead the whole cause against kirsten, ariel, and rey
spies6Boris (5:01:58 PM): saying that they were super citizens and we should get rid of them for being such great citizens but not getting exiled yet
spies6Boris (5:02:10 PM): there was ariel who took FOREVER in the exile to ask questions
spies6Boris (5:02:19 PM): specifically to the people who would not be voting for rey
spies6Boris (5:03:19 PM): and now kirsten has been wrong twice when she was certain thor and rey were scum
spies6Tiberius (5:03:28 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:03:31 PM): jenya
spies6Tiberius (5:03:43 PM): someone must have mentioned she's a super cit too right?
spies6Boris is available (5:05:59 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:06:07 PM): did you notice how everyone GRILLED rey on her amelia vote, but hte other amelia voters did nothing, and how pete myseriously switched votes seemingly without cause? frruustrattinng.
spies6Tiberius (5:06:18 PM): also... not sure you got this
spies6Tiberius (5:06:24 PM):
spies6Tiberius (5:03:28 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:03:31 PM): jenya
spies6Tiberius (5:03:43 PM): someone must have mentioned she's a super cit too right?
spies6Boris is available (5:07:07 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:22 PM): oop
spies6Boris is available (5:07:22 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:33 PM): bad connection boris, so i might have missed you response
spies6Boris (5:07:39 PM): didn't make one
spies6Boris (5:08:08 PM): i was going to vote amelia, but the way the stupid thing was set up it was hard to cut in
spies6Boris (5:08:15 PM): though i kind of got grilled later and left
spies6Tiberius (5:08:43 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (5:08:52 PM): bah humbug to the whole thing
spies6Boris is available (5:40:31 PM)
spies6Kirsten is available (7:40:08 PM)
spies6Kirsten (6:25:09 PM): Tiberius
spies6Tiberius (6:25:17 PM): Kirsten
spies6Kirsten (6:25:21 PM): Hello
spies6Tiberius (6:25:25 PM): hiya
spies6Kirsten (6:25:36 PM): are you excited about this episode?
spies6Tiberius (6:26:41 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (6:26:56 PM): i'm interested to see what goes down, though "excitied" may not be the most fabo news
spies6Tiberius (6:26:57 PM): *word
spies6Kirsten is idle (7:20:36 PM)
spies6levi is available (4:32:38 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:32:38 PM): hey
spies6Tiberius (4:32:41 PM): you wanted to talk to me?
spies6levi (4:32:45 PM): Yes I did
spies6levi (4:32:59 PM): . . . actually, I want to talk to everyone
spies6levi (4:33:15 PM): But I saw you posting in the Burg that day, and you weren't on AIM and the sooner I can hit everyone, the better
spies6Tiberius (4:33:28 PM): gotcha
spies6Tiberius (4:33:34 PM): yeah apparently we just missed each other
spies6levi (4:33:48 PM): Yesterday was a bit on the busy side for me anyways
spies6levi (4:34:05 PM): Let me get ready, and then we'll begin
spies6Tiberius (4:34:22 PM): oooo
spies6Tiberius (4:34:27 PM): i'ma about to get grilled? XD
spies6levi (4:34:42 PM): Don't worry, it doesn't make you special
spies6levi (4:34:50 PM): Every player is going to go through this this episode
spies6Tiberius (4:35:06 PM): gotcha
spies6levi (4:35:10 PM): Welcome to America's favorite television show, Meet the Players!
spies6levi (4:35:30 PM): Every episode we will profile one player of the smash hit online game Spies 6.
spies6levi (4:35:42 PM): Joining us for today's episode, resident comic book writer Tiberius!
spies6Tiberius (4:35:47 PM): B-)
spies6levi (4:36:06 PM): Some call him Shadow, others call him Sheep
spies6Tiberius (4:36:09 PM): hiya folks, check out my next project, Super Awesome Man 3, coming out this fall!
spies6levi (4:36:25 PM): Let's see if today's interview can shed some light on this man who writes about men of mystery
spies6levi (4:36:43 PM): As you know, you were a member of Team Cluster#$@! (family show)
spies6Tiberius (4:37:06 PM): innDEED
spies6levi (4:37:07 PM): You voted for Almathea, the first Spy in Spies history to be caught at the first Exile
spies6Tiberius (4:37:13 PM): yes, that too
spies6levi (4:37:16 PM): What made you vote for her?
spies6Tiberius (4:38:22 PM): I suspected her early after discovering that spies knew all along from her behaviour in pregame mafia, but i cant remember exactly what i did
spies6Tiberius (4:38:31 PM): i discussed her with rey early on, but that didn't convince me of much
spies6Tiberius (4:38:50 PM): i came on the day of exile, and discussed with I BELIEVE jason what was going on, he told me Alma was under a lot of heat
spies6Tiberius (4:39:04 PM): he told me the bullet points, and a team chat happened
spies6Tiberius (4:39:21 PM): alma broke down, and freaked out, i tried to talk to her in private but she was in freak out mode
spies6Tiberius (4:39:25 PM): so i laid a vote down on that yo
spies6Tiberius (4:40:27 PM): that's it
spies6Tiberius (4:40:37 PM): or my memory of it, i dont keep a good confessional
spies6levi (4:40:51 PM): You don't need to add disclaimers to everything
spies6levi (4:40:52 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:40:58 PM): ugh
spies6levi (4:41:05 PM): Yes, I am recording your answers
spies6Tiberius (4:41:24 PM): i seriously can't help that Levi, it's my personality, Ariel pointed that out early on in the game i recall
spies6levi (4:41:39 PM): *or at least I think she did, I may be wrong
spies6Tiberius (4:41:44 PM): i tried to fix it, but i just can't, it's... i'm an apologetic and guilty feelings kinda guy
spies6levi (4:41:47 PM): Jk, jk
spies6levi (4:41:56 PM): Back to the questions
spies6Tiberius (4:41:59 PM): indeed
spies6levi (4:42:11 PM): Exile #2 saw the first major voting shift of Spies 6: +/- voting.
spies6levi (4:42:24 PM): You +'d Jaya, the second Spy to be caught.
spies6levi (4:42:28 PM): What was your inspiration?
spies6levi (4:43:04 PM): (It's a simple question, no need to ask your Spy buddies)
spies6Tiberius (4:43:25 PM): sorry, i'm writing a pm for a survivor game at the same time
spies6Tiberius (4:43:26 PM): anyway
spies6Tiberius (4:44:03 PM): I was uninformed the exile[ SHOCK, AWE the CROWD CRIES TEARS OF SUPRISE] and voted for her because she voted the same as almathea last exile, as it was the only evidence i felt i had
spies6levi (4:45:08 PM): Why did you - resident cage fighter Roxy?
spies6Tiberius (4:46:27 PM): Because
spies6Tiberius (4:47:01 PM): I was so certain of her citizenship at the time due to gut, and indetifying with her having a hard time with adapting her ingrown survivor logic to the new feild of mafia, because I was doing that too, just sorta faster.
spies6Tiberius (4:47:06 PM): and she was still a suspect at the time.
spies6Tiberius (4:47:23 PM): I was pressued to - pete due to rey's campaign by thor and yvette
spies6Tiberius (4:47:24 PM): but i didnt
spies6levi (4:48:59 PM): Exile #3
spies6levi (4:49:08 PM): Three cases in the Burg: Levi, Donald, Yvette
spies6levi (4:49:12 PM): You vote Yvette
spies6levi (4:49:13 PM): Why?
spies6Tiberius (4:49:41 PM): I
spies6Tiberius (4:49:48 PM): a lot of the ideas Jason used
spies6Tiberius (4:49:55 PM): were actually ones i brought up to him
spies6Tiberius (4:50:12 PM): i was just high on the case, i felt like it was solid
spies6Tiberius (4:50:25 PM): i felt like yvette had been making a charachter as a spy sheild since before the reveal
spies6Tiberius (4:50:41 PM): and also that she had formed the "Robert trap" with evilllll guile
spies6Tiberius (4:50:49 PM): i was wrong, but I was damn certain at the time
spies6Tiberius (4:51:04 PM): ... oop, disclaimer, fuck me
spies6levi (4:51:15 PM): It's ok, it's not that big of a deal
spies6levi (4:51:47 PM): Exile #4
spies6Tiberius (4:51:57 PM): Honestly, I thought I was a bigger PART of that case than i really was, because i thought of a lot of the ideas that jason and jenya had independently of them
spies6Tiberius (4:52:01 PM): yvette i mean
spies6Tiberius (4:52:03 PM): go on though
spies6levi (4:52:13 PM): You voted Levi. Why?
spies6Tiberius (4:52:40 PM): I didn't like the donald case i never did
spies6levi (4:52:49 PM): (Trust me, I won't be offended. Just give me the bare naked truth.)
spies6Tiberius (4:52:56 PM): and i felt the level of case-age against you was stronger, that's it
spies6Tiberius (4:53:10 PM): i was
spies6Tiberius (4:53:16 PM): in "reactioniary" mode i guess
spies6Tiberius (4:53:26 PM): i just HATED the donald case initially so much that i refused to conjsider him as a spy
spies6Tiberius (4:53:36 PM): similar to how i've been so militant about roxy being cit
spies6Tiberius (4:53:48 PM): ...if that makes any sense
spies6levi (4:54:30 PM): Throughout the game, you'd been mentioning that you were suspicious of Faith.
spies6levi (4:54:48 PM): In fact, you even made a post containing alarm sound effects and calling it your Spy Alarm.
spies6Tiberius (4:54:58 PM): ahha
spies6Tiberius (4:54:58 PM): yup
spies6levi (4:55:01 PM): Yet at Exile #5, when Faith went home, you voted for Georgia.
spies6levi (4:55:02 PM): Why?
spies6Tiberius (4:55:59 PM): I really have no answer but what i told everyone, since the very first moments of the game, I had a painful gut feeling that screamed spy to me, combined with my desire to find that spy in the robert trap I actually persued that feeling
spies6levi (4:56:26 PM): NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
spies6levi (4:56:28 PM): ROXY LEFT
spies6levi (4:56:34 PM): I HAVE TO INTERVIEW HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies6Tiberius (4:56:36 PM): D=
spies6levi (4:56:40 PM): (sorry, lost control)
spies6levi (4:57:09 PM): Why didn't you vote in Exile #6?
spies6levi (4:57:22 PM): (Forum Mafia week)
spies6Tiberius (4:57:40 PM): You skipped why I voted for georgia instead of faith
spies6Tiberius (4:57:41 PM): ok
spies6Tiberius (4:57:42 PM): well
spies6levi (4:57:48 PM): Never mind
spies6levi (4:57:50 PM): Backtrack
spies6levi (4:57:57 PM): Why did you vote for Georgia instead of Faith.
spies6levi (4:58:20 PM): Sorry bout that
spies6Tiberius (4:58:25 PM): 's cool
spies6Tiberius (4:59:21 PM): i voted for georgia instead because my last minute conversation with faith shock my... heh.... faith in her being a spy because she seemed geniune and honest in her answers to my accusations, and not really knowing where to put my vote, i put it on someone who i 1. disliked and 2. sorta suspected, because... well I didnt know what the hell else to do
spies6levi (5:00:43 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:00:48 PM): Why did you not vote in Exile #6?
spies6levi (5:00:59 PM): (Also, what time is Imprisonment, I would like to know)
spies6Tiberius (5:01:24 PM): I have no idea what time imprisonment is, i forgot to check
spies6Tiberius (5:01:46 PM): I didnt vote in Exile 6 because me and pete were racing to get our iris votes in first, kept messing up formating, and he beat me
spies6Tiberius (5:02:09 PM): Iris to me there was just NO way she wasn't a spy, no way in hell, i just didnt get to voting in time
spies6levi (5:02:36 PM): Exile #7
spies6levi (5:02:44 PM): You voted Amelia, but Thor went home.
spies6levi (5:02:54 PM): Why did you vote Amelia? Why didn't you vote Thor?
spies6Tiberius (5:04:39 PM): I wasn't online the day of. had I, there's a chance i might have sheeped along with the Thor vote had it been explained to me. I knew kirsten's case, but I didn't know there would be action take on it that exile. In fact i'm susprised, and very suspicious that it did. I voted Amelia for the reasons I'm pushing it now, because a citizen doesnt confirm a spy role unless framed, and a frame seems unlikely, and any loopholes in the second phrase is too small
spies6levi (5:05:19 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:05:39 PM): Exile #8
spies6levi (5:05:46 PM): At the Pre-Exile vote, you voted Amelia.
spies6levi (5:05:55 PM): At the end of it, you chose not to block a Rey Exile.
spies6levi (5:06:05 PM): Explain.
spies6Tiberius (5:06:12 PM): stupid stupid stupid
spies6Tiberius (5:06:12 PM): ugh
spies6Tiberius (5:06:14 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:06:21 PM): I prefered an amelia vote all along
spies6Tiberius (5:06:31 PM): for the same reasons as before
spies6Tiberius (5:07:01 PM): but after hearing the bullet pointed case from you, i became convinced enough to say... eh, alright, he's scummy enough that I GUESS i wouldnt block
spies6levi (5:08:05 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:08:07 PM): Final Question
spies6Tiberius (5:08:08 PM): but at the end there when I saw georgia and gretchen fighting, and what i saw as kangaroo court behaviour start, I became sorta starting to think about blocking again, but i didn't, i'm not 100% sure why even now, maybe it was that i was tired and annoyed like everyone else
spies6Tiberius (5:08:11 PM): no there's more
spies6levi (5:08:13 PM): Nvm, lol
spies6Tiberius (5:08:14 PM): lol
spies6levi (5:08:14 PM): Continue
spies6Tiberius (5:10:04 PM): maybe it was that i was afraid of being supsicous, and this it he first time i've mentioned this outside confessionals, congrats on the scoop, because i became more interested in blocking ONCE people pointed out that if one person left Georgia wouldn't be enough, so if i anounced that i would block again RIGHT when that'd begin being discussed welll... i'd look icky. if rey turned out to be a spy in the end that'd make me look terrible. And citizens don't want to look like spies bra!
spies6levi (5:11:08 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:11:09 PM): Thanks
spies6levi (5:11:14 PM): Final Question time?
spies6Tiberius (5:11:40 PM): yes
spies6levi (5:11:48 PM): There are three Spies remaining in this game.
spies6levi (5:11:52 PM): Name them. Give reasoning.
spies6Tiberius (5:13:07 PM): Amelia- I've told you why, only add that TWO citizens have gone down seemingly to protect her
spies6Tiberius (5:13:35 PM): Ariel- I feel like she was the primary force behind the farce that was the exile of rey and the things that lead to it. Mainly the shady activity involved in it, the kangaroo courtin
spies6Tiberius (5:14:14 PM): Last one? Hmmm... If i had to vote for three people now I guess Boris would be my third, but i can't formulate a reason 100%
spies6levi (5:14:56 PM): Thank you for your time
spies6levi (5:15:00 PM): This interview is now . . .
spies6levi (5:15:07 PM): Closed
spies6Tiberius (5:15:10 PM): alrighty
spies6levi is available (5:24:36 PM)
spies6levi (5:24:39 PM): Btw
spies6levi (5:24:44 PM): I ask that you speak of this interview to no one
spies6Tiberius (5:24:56 PM): oks
spies6levi is available (7:25:31 PM)
Stupid lawn got mowed by me . . .
spies6levi (7:27:28 PM): So, what's up now?
spies6Tiberius (7:28:16 PM): nothing of importance or interest
spies6levi (7:28:38 PM): Translation - Chatting with my Spy buddies
spies6Tiberius (7:29:55 PM): o you stop
spies6Tiberius (7:30:03 PM): i'm not doing anything spies realated at all actually
spies6levi (7:30:15 PM): It was a joke . . . no need to get defensive
spies6Tiberius (7:30:40 PM): "o you stop" is how i always respond to jokes in this game 0-o
spies6levi (7:31:07 PM): Duly noted
spies6Tiberius (7:32:13 PM): you will do well to mind the proclmations of your lord tibby
spies6georgia is available (3:44:12 PM)
spies6Tiberius (3:44:12 PM): ehem
spies6Tiberius (3:44:15 PM): Georgia ownage
spies6Tiberius (3:44:17 PM): is running wild
spies6Georgia (3:44:23 PM): Say what?
spies6Tiberius (3:44:32 PM): lol, your last post in the exile nine thread
spies6Tiberius (3:44:36 PM): impressed Tibby
spies6Georgia (3:44:47 PM): lol.
spies6Georgia (3:44:54 PM): what is gross Kangaroo Court?
spies6Georgia (3:44:58 PM): Too lazy to look it up
spies6Tiberius (3:45:07 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (3:45:12 PM): A Kangaroo Court
spies6Tiberius (3:45:38 PM): is bassically a court case that is rigged in order to make things faster and where due process rights are denied
spies6Georgia (3:46:34 PM): Ah.
spies6Tiberius (3:46:40 PM): i feel like the consensus exile was pretty much that
spies6Georgia (3:47:38 PM): Yeah. It is a good idea. But with so many people with time differences and commitments, it'll take longer. I think people should've expected that.
spies6Georgia (3:48:17 PM): Because towards the end, well even from the start people wanted it to end early. I think this is probably one of those exiles that the set-up really benefited the Spies more than the citizens.
spies6Tiberius (3:48:31 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (3:48:52 PM): but i also think even early on the whole thing as a rigged anti-rey trail yaknow?
spies6Georgia (3:49:11 PM): Jenya, Kirsten, and Ariel - would never of changed their vote.
spies6Georgia (3:49:22 PM): Though I keep forgetting that Ariel wasn't even around.
spies6Tiberius (3:50:04 PM): and worse yet
spies6Tiberius (3:50:17 PM): them being the current de facto burg leaders and ALL on the same train of thought...
spies6Tiberius (3:50:18 PM): ruh roh
spies6Georgia (3:51:20 PM): Yes well. I don't think all three are spies.
spies6Georgia (3:51:28 PM): If they were, then fucking good job at ballsy.
spies6Tiberius (3:51:43 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (3:51:54 PM): though I do think at least one of them is now, and my money's on ariel
spies6Georgia (3:52:10 PM): Mine is between Jenya and Ariel.
spies6Tiberius (3:53:14 PM): Mmm
spies6Tiberius (3:53:25 PM): yeah i'm not sure who i think is more scummy between kirsten and jenya
spies6Georgia (3:54:09 PM): I think Jenya is more scummy looking than Kirsten.
spies6Tiberius (3:54:31 PM): any particular reasons why or just sense?
spies6Georgia (3:55:34 PM): Jenya has the mislynches of both Yvette and Rey that can pretty much be laid at her feet.
spies6Tiberius (3:55:49 PM): kirsten has thor
spies6Georgia (3:56:02 PM): I thought Mirela was the big pusher in that.
spies6Tiberius (3:57:50 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (3:57:54 PM): kirsten came up with the case
spies6Tiberius (3:58:07 PM): but
spies6Tiberius (3:58:26 PM): i wasn't there for that exile and so i still dont know the details, i've asked but got mixed stories
spies6Georgia (3:58:59 PM): I think the most obvious and easiest statement to make involving it. Is that a bunch of people bandwagoned, and it was kept secret.
spies6Tiberius (4:00:18 PM): the fact that it went down like THAT is a big reason why i'm being stubborn and pigheaded abotu amelia this episode ^_^
spies6Georgia (4:02:19 PM): Yeah. It was a dirty way to play. If what Jason said in regards to it, is true. Then where the fuck is Mirela with her cases against her spy suspects.
spies6Tiberius (4:02:53 PM): mmm
spies6Tiberius (4:02:54 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:03:02 PM): knowledge should be made public
spies6Tiberius (4:03:19 PM): my confessional is almost empty, as ive told sam, because i post my open thoughts in the burg almost all the time
spies6Tiberius (4:03:30 PM): and there's no reason to write twice XD
spies6Georgia (4:04:33 PM): Haha. It is a good place to compile thoughts regarding each person.
spies6Tiberius (4:04:53 PM): maybe that's why my posts seems so word-vomity sometimes <_<
spies6Georgia (4:06:15 PM): It is also a good place to rant. Or like right now, I'm going through and compiling a full and completed version of the Meeting Minutes. Including the cases presented, the question/answer portions. And any other tidbit that is interesting/suspicious/useful.
spies6Tiberius (4:07:20 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (4:07:24 PM): that's very interesting
spies6Tiberius (4:07:42 PM): i should really make more use of it, i did take the time to spill my ANGRY THOUGHTS about the exile at least in there XD
spies6Georgia (4:10:01 PM): lol.
spies6Georgia (4:10:43 PM): It may just be me. But everyone is like "agreeing" on people whom are suspicious. Yourself, Khaled, Amelia - I think are the top three.
spies6Tiberius (4:11:36 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (4:11:39 PM): i know i'm guilty of that
spies6Tiberius (4:12:10 PM): it really is just because i get easily overwhelmed and am busy, but i understand that excuse is tiring <_<
spies6Georgia (4:12:54 PM): I think people are just really starting to take the easy way out.
spies6Georgia (4:13:30 PM): Yeah in the beginning it could occur without much damage. But as the end gets nearer, and the numbers dwindle. Taking the easy road, can be much more disastrous.
spies6Tiberius (4:14:24 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:14:59 PM): i... know
spies6Georgia (4:26:16 PM): What did you and Ariel fight about?
spies6Tiberius (4:26:35 PM): one sec, i'll explain in a bit dealin with sometinh
spies6Georgia (4:28:02 PM): okay.
spies6Tiberius (4:29:32 PM): bassicallly
spies6Tiberius (4:29:43 PM): i accused her of being THE driving force behind the kangaroo court stuff
spies6Georgia (4:32:05 PM): And I take it she reacted badly to that. lol
spies6Tiberius (4:32:08 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (4:32:09 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (4:32:14 PM): i imagine i'm the new rey XD
spies6Georgia (4:32:44 PM): Haha. I doubt it.
spies6Tiberius (4:34:18 PM): she's disliked me for awhile though, this just made the problem worse
spies6Georgia (4:37:21 PM): lol. Dislike =/= Spy
spies6Tiberius (4:37:26 PM): i'm aware
spies6Tiberius (4:37:41 PM): i meant in that i'm probably the one she likes least
spies6Tiberius (4:37:45 PM): not as in top suspect wise
spies6Georgia (4:37:49 PM): Just look. The most "disliked" people of this game, have all been citizens.
spies6Georgia (4:38:32 PM): Well some people equate their dislike of a person to be suspect. I mean, that some people turn their dislike for a person into that person being a suspect.
spies6Tiberius (4:39:43 PM): yes indeed
spies6Tiberius (4:39:54 PM): like when i was REALLY pissed at you I so WANTED to believe you were a spy XD
spies6Tiberius (4:39:57 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:40:07 PM):
spies6Georgia (4:40:11 PM): haha. you weren't the only one.
spies6Tiberius (4:40:49 PM): btw, you've been a lot better lately, i appreciate taht
spies6Georgia (4:42:04 PM): Haha. I honestly was surprised that (in my opinion), I was one of the more level-headed during the consensus meeting. And dear Amelia thought I would use the position as DA to validate being mean/nasty to people. Oh my, such.. bullshit. xD
spies6Tiberius (4:44:28 PM): yes, you handled it well
spies6Tiberius (4:44:34 PM): i sure wish people had listened more to you T_T
spies6Tiberius (4:44:43 PM): ... including me XD
spies6Georgia (4:45:23 PM): Meh. I think it was a pain in the ass really. Jenya, Kirsten, and Ariel - never would've changed their mind.
spies6Georgia (4:45:49 PM): The people whom probably would've changed their mind, or not voted for Rey - weren't even able to vote. So. Meh.
spies6Tiberius (4:46:10 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:46:20 PM): well... it must have sucked to have been in that position... whoopsie
spies6Georgia (4:47:10 PM): whoopsie?
spies6Tiberius (4:47:31 PM): err
spies6Tiberius (4:47:37 PM): not sure what i meant with that actually XD
spies6Georgia (4:51:00 PM): I think even if someone had come out and said "Rey is citizen, because someone investigated him and found him citizen". The votes would not of changed. But that is just me.
spies6Tiberius (4:51:15 PM): ahaha
spies6Tiberius (4:51:16 PM): probably
spies6Georgia (4:51:38 PM): Though I wonder why Rey even left the chat. If he hadn't of left, then he would've been saved from Exile.
spies6Georgia (4:51:47 PM): I think.
spies6Georgia (4:52:12 PM): Yes, if he had stayed. Both him and I would've been blocking his exile.
spies6Tiberius (4:52:18 PM): fell asleep again?
spies6Tiberius (4:52:25 PM): but yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:52:27 PM): good question
spies6Georgia (4:52:43 PM): He left right after the vote seeing who would block the Rey exile.
spies6Georgia (4:52:55 PM): Maybe he thought he would just be exiled, the dumb ass.
spies6Georgia (4:53:19 PM): I hope he is smacking himself in the face repeatedly for his own stupidity. If that is the reason.
spies6Tiberius (4:54:07 PM): yeah, don't give up like that
spies6Tiberius (4:54:39 PM): so, random question georgia, there was a time where you were very darn certian that i was a spy it seemed, has your supsicion been going down or up lately?
spies6Georgia (4:55:50 PM): I doubt I was darn certain. Otherwise I would've voted for you, if I was that certain.
spies6Tiberius (4:56:06 PM): true
spies6Tiberius (4:56:09 PM): so
spies6Tiberius (4:56:14 PM): cut out that, is it down or up lately?
spies6Georgia (4:57:13 PM): About the same as always. I think you are suspicious mostly because of your continual sheep behavior.
spies6Tiberius (4:58:04 PM): gotcha
spies6Tiberius (4:58:19 PM): yup, and i've said anything i can to explain that, and i have nothing else for you
spies6Georgia (4:59:04 PM): I know.
spies6Georgia (4:59:15 PM): But it doesn't mean that explaining it, explains it away.
spies6Tiberius (4:59:28 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (4:59:56 PM): i'm aware, i'm in a position where i'm doing something suspcious but I can't explain it any more, so if it leads to my doom... it leads to my doom
spies6Georgia (5:03:17 PM): Today should be interesting. Imprisonment and Time Capsule.
spies6Tiberius (5:03:31 PM): o... the time capsule, indeed
spies6Georgia (5:03:42 PM): This is like the first imprisonment that I'm actually worried about.
spies6Tiberius (5:05:03 PM): i'm always worried, but i've been getting LESS so over time
spies6Tiberius (5:05:29 PM): i mean, this is the first round people other than you have voiced real solid suspicions of me XD
spies6Georgia (5:09:01 PM): lol.
spies6Georgia (5:13:51 PM): Why less so?
spies6Tiberius (5:17:35 PM): because
spies6Tiberius (5:17:57 PM): if people voice suspicions of you, you are less likely to go, because the spies would rather try to exile you yes?
spies6Georgia (5:22:29 PM): William was imprisoned, and people were suspicious of him.
spies6Georgia is available (7:42:27 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:23:21 PM): i'm just sayin, it does make things less likely
spies6Georgia is idle (5:32:29 PM)
spies6georgia is available (7:49:27 PM)
spies6Tiberius (7:49:27 PM): hello
spies6georgia is available (9:05:45 PM)
spies6Georgia (9:05:45 PM): Hello.
spies6Tiberius (9:06:11 PM): was just signing off actually, i'll talk to you either later tonight or tommorow georgia
spies6Georgia (9:06:52 PM): Alright. cya
Sam's edit: changed title to reflect the correct episode
spies6Tiberius (5:07:39 PM): hi =_=
spies6Ariel (5:08:02 PM): Hi
spies6Tiberius (5:08:25 PM): ariel
spies6Tiberius (5:08:28 PM): do you know the term
spies6Ariel (5:08:29 PM): Tiberius
spies6Tiberius (5:08:32 PM): kangaroo court?
spies6Ariel (5:08:43 PM): No?
spies6Ariel is available (5:11:41 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:11:47 PM): A kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial, refers to a sham legal proceeding or court. The colloquial phrase "kangaroo court" is used to describe judicial proceedings that, the speaker feels, deny due process rights in the name of expediency. Such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible, e.g., hearsay, the right to exclude judges or jurors on the grounds of partiality or conflict of interest, and the right of appeal. The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.
spies6Ariel (5:12:28 PM): And..?
spies6Tiberius (5:12:41 PM): the consensus exile was one, the whole thing
spies6Tiberius (5:12:58 PM): and, imo, you were the primary force behind that ariel, and i'm displeased greatly
spies6Ariel (5:13:30 PM): You know, Tiberius, if I actually cared about your displeasure, I might be the slightest bit contrite
spies6Tiberius (5:14:09 PM): Nice Rey immitation there Ariel
spies6Ariel (5:14:50 PM): I have yet to insult you or bully you
spies6Ariel (5:15:05 PM): Just letting you know that I don't particularly care one way or the other if you're displeased with me
spies6Tiberius (5:15:11 PM): you stated you didnt care about my opinion, that's an insult
spies6Tiberius (5:15:13 PM): ok
spies6Tiberius (5:15:17 PM): well let me rephrase
spies6Tiberius (5:15:24 PM): i think it was scummy behaviour, NOW do you care?
spies6Ariel (5:15:33 PM): Not particularly
spies6Tiberius (5:16:12 PM): ugh
spies6Tiberius (5:16:13 PM): ok
spies6Ariel (5:16:23 PM): Sorry
spies6Ariel (5:16:36 PM): I'm not going to hide that I'm glad Rey and his drama are gone
spies6Ariel (5:16:44 PM):
spies6Tiberius (5:16:56 PM): yes i know
spies6Ariel (5:17:15 PM): And you realize, if you think my wanting Rey gone is scummy, ipso facto you have to think the same of Kirsten and Jenya.
spies6Tiberius (5:17:50 PM): i beleive you "rigged" the kangaroo court more than most there
spies6Tiberius (5:17:57 PM): but i do have less trust in the both of them after that
spies6Ariel (5:18:02 PM): ...hahaha.
spies6Tiberius (5:18:24 PM): i identify, i've said before i WISH i could exile georgia, so identify with your feelings there
spies6Tiberius (5:18:46 PM): but the whole thing was just a mock trail to get rey out, and i should have gone by my gut and blocked it
spies6Ariel (5:18:58 PM): And you blame me for it, because....?
spies6Ariel (5:19:13 PM): I mean, I'm flattered that you think I have that much influence, but do you happen to remember what happened when I called Rey out?
spies6Ariel (5:19:38 PM): It took Kirsten and Jenya's support to get people to even consider Rey
spies6Tiberius (5:21:33 PM): hm...
spies6Tiberius (5:21:36 PM): that's a good point ariel
spies6Tiberius (5:22:06 PM): but honestly, i felt like you were the driving force behind the kangaroo court itself, that's the FEELING i get, sadly i can't back it up yet
spies6Ariel (5:22:41 PM): Yes, I wanted Rey gone and did all in my power to make it happen. So?
spies6Ariel (5:23:31 PM): Even if he wasn't a Spy, the real Spies can't hide behind the drama he creates anymore. That can only be a good thing.
spies6Ariel (5:23:38 PM): And don't tell me you've never been wrong before.
spies6Tiberius (5:23:54 PM): I said the same thing about Georgia all the time Ariel, but i didnt practically lead an exile on her
spies6Tiberius (5:24:00 PM): no, i've been wrong
spies6Ariel (5:25:31 PM): Be honest, Tiberius.
spies6Ariel (5:25:31 PM): The only reason you're so hot on the fact that I "practically lead" the Exile is that I've been on Rey's back since practically Episode 1.
spies6Tiberius (5:25:59 PM): well are you saying that's a bad reason?
spies6Ariel (5:26:26 PM): Yes, I am.
spies6Ariel (5:26:34 PM): Take another look at the actual exile.
spies6Tiberius (5:28:30 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:28:37 PM): let's use your actual minutes shall we?
spies6Tiberius (5:28:51 PM): Proposal - Pre-Exile votes used in the event of someone losing their vote due to inactivity.
Proposed by: Ariel
Blocked by: Jenya, Rey, Boris
Motion denied. [O my... look at that, most of hte prexile votes were rey ones]
spies6Ariel (5:29:16 PM): Yes, and that was the main reason I proposed that particular proposal.
spies6Ariel (5:29:17 PM): What's your point?
spies6Tiberius (5:29:23 PM): so
spies6Tiberius (5:29:42 PM): you wanted to make sure that people could use votes they made before getting all the possible information on that exile?
spies6Tiberius (5:29:44 PM): dirty...
spies6Ariel (5:29:52 PM): XD
spies6Ariel (5:29:58 PM): You do realize, you're making no sense?
spies6Ariel (5:30:19 PM): How is it dirty to want people to still have a say in Exile if they, say, accidentally D/Ced due to a power outage?
spies6Ariel (5:30:25 PM): (Which is exactly what happened to me <_<
spies6Tiberius (5:37:13 PM): ugh, sorry, phone
spies6Tiberius (5:37:15 PM): one sec
spies6Ariel is available (5:40:31 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:41:51 PM): ok
spies6Ariel is available (5:41:51 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:41:52 PM): back
spies6Ariel (5:42:02 PM): Welcome back.
spies6Tiberius (5:42:45 PM): it's dirty because those are uninformed votes, also, because you weren't being altruistic since had the majority been for someone else you wouldnt have proposed that
spies6Ariel (5:43:25 PM): I wouldn't have?
spies6Ariel (5:43:34 PM): I wasn't aware you were in my head, Tiberius.
spies6Tiberius (5:43:52 PM): you already said that
spies6Tiberius (5:43:57 PM): spies6Ariel (5:29:16 PM): Yes, and that was the main reason I proposed that particular proposal.
spies6Ariel (5:44:04 PM): "Main."
spies6Tiberius (5:44:08 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:44:15 PM): wthout your main reason, would you still have?
spies6Ariel (5:44:35 PM): Obviously I would have, otherwise I wouldn't be irritated that you think you know what I would have or would not have done in a particular circumstance.
spies6Ariel (5:44:58 PM): Way to imitate Rey, Tiberius.
spies6Tiberius (5:45:43 PM): there's no way to prove that you would have and i'm pretty sure you wouldnt have, but ok
spies6Ariel (5:45:59 PM): You can be "pretty sure" all you like.
spies6Tiberius (5:46:08 PM): like i was telling kirsten
spies6Tiberius (5:46:18 PM): my suspcious is unsubstaintiated, but i have more
spies6Tiberius (5:46:44 PM): okso
spies6Tiberius (5:47:01 PM): Proposal: Those voting Rey say why, and allow him to address the concerns.
Proposed by: Rey
Seconded by: Levi
Thirded by: Pete
Blocked by: Kirsten, Ariel, Boris
Motion denied. [I'm confused, was it because something else was happening at the time? Why would you block that?]
spies6Ariel (5:47:39 PM): That was blocked because Gretchen had to leave soon, so we blocked that proposal to allow her to go first.
spies6Tiberius (5:47:54 PM): ok
spies6Tiberius (5:48:00 PM): no here's
spies6Tiberius (5:48:06 PM): where you really start to make me angry
spies6Ariel (5:48:20 PM): (Don't worry, Tiberius, we're even; you've already pissed me off )
spies6Tiberius (5:48:53 PM): Proposal: Kirsten puts Rey on probation for spamming.
Proposed by: Ariel
Seconded by: None
Thirded by: None
Blocked by: Levi, Boris, Rey
Motion denied. [Silencing a suspect, a primary suspect, no matter how annoying they're being, is just plain wrong, and part of the kangaroo courtage, i'm so glad people were smart enough to at least block that]
spies6Ariel (5:49:23 PM): He was SPAMMING, and muddying the proceedings.
spies6Ariel (5:49:40 PM): And what was being talked about right then had nothing to do with him.
spies6Ariel (5:50:04 PM): Silencing was the only disciplinary power that the Facilitator had.
spies6Tiberius (5:50:23 PM): here's the thing though
spies6Tiberius (5:50:58 PM): it happened again, only it was proposed by Levi this time, but shock and awe you seconded it, and again, only this time levi proposed that jason intervene
spies6Tiberius (5:51:03 PM): and... you seconded
spies6Tiberius (5:51:31 PM): and then... lol, rey jockingly proposes that he be silenced, and SHOCK you second
spies6Tiberius (5:51:38 PM): *third, whatever
spies6Ariel (5:51:39 PM): All you're proving is that I didn't like Rey. Surprise! I didn't.
spies6Ariel (5:52:13 PM): Are you seriously using my wish to stop Rey's spamfest as evidence of me being scum?
spies6Tiberius (5:53:39 PM): i'm proving that you wanted to make sure that your citizen exile for that round was silenced
spies6Ariel (5:54:00 PM): ....-headdesk-
spies6Tiberius (5:54:37 PM): pass it off however you want to ariel
spies6Tiberius (5:54:40 PM): it was bullshit
spies6Ariel (5:54:55 PM): You are, of course, free to think that.
spies6Tiberius (5:56:38 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:56:39 PM): on that note
spies6Tiberius (5:56:43 PM): i must take leave but
spies6Tiberius (5:56:50 PM): adios
spies6Ariel (5:57:01 PM): Bye.
spies6kirsten is available (4:42:41 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:42:41 PM): well, my presence was requested by levi, but her isnt here
spies6Tiberius (4:42:51 PM): hi kirsten
spies6Kirsten (4:42:53 PM): yeah, he just left
spies6Kirsten (4:42:54 PM): Hello
spies6Kirsten (4:42:59 PM): I wanted to ask you a question
spies6Tiberius (4:43:02 PM): sure
spies6Kirsten (4:43:10 PM): where did you hear the term LaL?
spies6Kirsten (4:43:13 PM): if you'v enever played mafia
spies6Tiberius (4:43:20 PM): in this game
spies6Tiberius (4:43:29 PM): i abreviated it myself since hearing it early on
spies6Tiberius (4:43:40 PM): i heard the term in pregame mafia
spies6Tiberius (4:43:46 PM): but abbrieviated it myself
spies6Kirsten (4:43:53 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (4:44:02 PM): well, that is the standard abbreviation used
spies6Kirsten (4:44:07 PM): it surprised me when you used it
spies6Kirsten (4:44:20 PM): you're not lying about your mafia experience are you?
spies6Tiberius (4:44:29 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (4:44:30 PM): or maybe we'd have to use LaL on you
spies6Kirsten (4:44:31 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:44:34 PM): lolz
spies6Tiberius (4:44:46 PM): no i'm a first timer with forum mafia
spies6Tiberius (4:44:57 PM): as i explained during the time i defended roxy
spies6Tiberius (4:45:03 PM): me and her come from the same background
spies6Tiberius (4:45:05 PM): survivor
spies6Kirsten (4:45:06 PM): right, that is what I had recalled
spies6Tiberius (4:45:09 PM): first forum mafia game
spies6Tiberius (4:45:29 PM): i just adapted to the terms faster, though obviously not the work load XD
spies6Kirsten (4:45:42 PM): this game has a higher workload than a game of forum mafia
spies6Kirsten (4:45:47 PM): by a long shot
spies6Tiberius (4:46:24 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:46:47 PM): i checked out the... place rey and other kept mentioning at it seemed a bit less so
spies6Tiberius (4:46:48 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:47:59 PM): good catch though Kirsten
spies6Kirsten (4:48:03 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:48:17 PM): IGMEOY
spies6Tiberius (4:49:18 PM): see
spies6Tiberius (4:49:21 PM): that one i dont know XD
spies6Kirsten (4:49:31 PM): sure you don't
spies6Kirsten (4:49:37 PM): of course
spies6Tiberius (4:49:40 PM): no seriously =_=
spies6Kirsten (4:49:51 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:49:55 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:50:14 PM): ... no seriously tell me =_=
spies6Kirsten is available (4:50:39 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:50:48 PM): sorry, bad connection
spies6Kirsten is available (4:50:48 PM)
spies6Kirsten (4:51:07 PM): so you are dead set on Amelia and nothing can sway you?
spies6Kirsten (4:51:16 PM): are you that sure she's a spy?
spies6Kirsten (4:51:21 PM): or is it the princple of the matter?
spies6Tiberius (4:51:31 PM): tell me the godamn acyonym first =_=
spies6Tiberius (4:51:36 PM): then i'll explain XD
spies6Kirsten (4:51:53 PM): I got my eye on you
spies6Tiberius (4:52:02 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (4:52:03 PM): makes sense
spies6Kirsten (4:52:05 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:52:19 PM): will
spies6Tiberius (4:52:36 PM): the genius of "chubby caser" at last come to light?
spies6Kirsten (4:52:46 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:52:50 PM): not now, no
spies6Tiberius (4:52:58 PM): well alright
spies6Tiberius (4:53:00 PM): as for amelia
spies6Kirsten (4:53:12 PM): but healthy skepticism does a body good
spies6Tiberius (4:53:20 PM): indeed
spies6Tiberius (4:53:32 PM): i dont feel the people who people actually listen to do that enough towards me XD
spies6Tiberius (4:54:24 PM): yes, there is very little chance of me NOT voting amelia, because i believe there's such a small chance of her not being a spy based on what we know, combined with yes... the principal of the thing that you mentioned
spies6Tiberius (4:54:45 PM): i'm tired of loopholes when it comes to here, because ijust think they're so small
spies6Tiberius (4:54:53 PM): and yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:55:00 PM): i let myself get convinced of something i ddint believe
spies6Tiberius (4:55:10 PM): and people call me a sheep, that was my sheepiest moment imo
spies6Kirsten (4:55:11 PM): regarding Rey?
spies6Tiberius (4:55:13 PM): well fuck it
spies6Tiberius (4:55:13 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (4:55:17 PM): that whole thing by the way
spies6Tiberius (4:55:23 PM): was a frggen kangaroo court
spies6Kirsten (4:55:37 PM): I'm not familiar with the term Kangaroo court
spies6Kirsten (4:55:49 PM): but if it refers to 5 and a half hours of madness, then I agree
spies6Tiberius (4:55:56 PM): one sec
spies6Tiberius (4:56:16 PM): A kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial, refers to a sham legal proceeding or court. The colloquial phrase "kangaroo court" is used to describe judicial proceedings that, the speaker feels, deny due process rights in the name of expediency. Such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible, e.g., hearsay, the right to exclude judges or jurors on the grounds of partiality or conflict of interest, and the right of appeal. The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.
spies6Tiberius (4:56:25 PM): i feel like the whole thing was just one long rey-trap
spies6Tiberius (4:56:45 PM): and i was SO close to blocking at the end there, my gut and brain were telling me to... but i didnt and i still dont know why
spies6Kirsten (4:57:13 PM): that's pretty much true
spies6Kirsten (4:57:23 PM): the voting system was not designed to allow ample defense
spies6Kirsten (4:57:28 PM): or ample accusations
spies6Kirsten (4:57:31 PM): etc.
spies6Kirsten (4:57:59 PM): If you had blocked, then we would have had to settle on another target...I wonder how that would have gone
spies6Kirsten (4:58:13 PM): Amelia might have been exiled, though i would have blocked
spies6Kirsten (4:58:24 PM): I would have proposed Gretchen or Khaled, but I assume others would have blocked
spies6Tiberius (4:58:45 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:59:28 PM): also, as i think i actually vocalized, i was SORTA annoyed with what i saw as rule lawyering with the "let's wait for someone to leave so georgia cant stop anything"
spies6Kirsten (4:59:50 PM): yeah, i think you mentioned that
spies6Tiberius (5:00:40 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (5:00:42 PM): and i should tell you
spies6Tiberius (5:01:20 PM): that i trust you less after that exile, but i still am PRETTY sure you're a citizen, but after being the driving force behind thor and a pretty distinct supporter of rey you have to have expected that
spies6Kirsten (5:01:28 PM): Yep
spies6Kirsten (5:01:30 PM): I do expect it
spies6Kirsten (5:01:43 PM): and I'm still a citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:01:45 PM): though I have been shamed
spies6Kirsten (5:01:50 PM): twice wrong
spies6Tiberius (5:02:28 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:02:36 PM): jason drove a yvette exile, and i still believe him citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:02:52 PM): if Amelia is a spy, then I will expect more suspicion toward me
spies6Tiberius (5:03:04 PM): so i'm not ready to PERSUE anything there yet, but ehem, to quote a wise woman, IGMEOY
spies6Kirsten (5:03:10 PM): haha
spies6Tiberius (5:03:12 PM): yes, because you bassically saved her twice
spies6Kirsten (5:03:32 PM): and right now, I'm not sold on her being a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:03:39 PM): will I save her a 3rd time?
spies6Kirsten (5:03:42 PM): stay tuned!
spies6Kirsten is available (5:05:59 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:06:05 PM): please don't kirsten, godamn you.
spies6Kirsten (5:06:15 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:06:23 PM): what if Amelia is a citizen?
spies6Tiberius (5:06:33 PM): what if what if
spies6Tiberius (5:06:37 PM): blah blah blah
spies6Kirsten is available (5:07:07 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:09 PM): 1. She confirmed a spy role 2. There were no role actions on episode oneGODFRIGGEN DAMNIT
spies6Kirsten is available (5:11:41 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:11:57 PM): ugh
spies6Tiberius (5:12:01 PM): friggen connection
spies6Kirsten (5:12:30 PM): confirming a spy role isn't damning
spies6Kirsten (5:12:41 PM): if you had a spy role that gave me exile immunity, then I would confirm it by being exile immune
spies6Kirsten (5:12:51 PM): no role actions episode 1 might be damning
spies6Kirsten (5:12:58 PM): it depends...did Iris have the role or not?
spies6Kirsten (5:13:08 PM): it's possible Iris did have the role, and just fudged some of the details
spies6Tiberius (5:13:38 PM): those, to me, minescule loopholes are not going to be enough for me anymore, i'm simplyfing, KISSing it up yo
spies6Kirsten (5:20:00 PM): is there anyone else besides Amelia you are suspicious of?
spies6Tiberius (5:20:29 PM): for now i'm concentrating on amelia
spies6Tiberius (5:20:57 PM): but yes, ariel and me are currently arguing about my suspicions of her
spies6Kirsten (5:21:43 PM): that, I am actually aware of
spies6Kirsten (5:21:56 PM): Ariel seemed...displeased...about you likening her to a driving force behind a kangaroo court
spies6Tiberius (5:22:14 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:22:17 PM): it's how i feel
spies6Tiberius (5:22:28 PM): ... sadly i can't substantiate it
spies6Kirsten (5:23:14 PM): Ariel is a good suspect
spies6Kirsten (5:23:28 PM): the question is: was she faking her Rey suspicion or not?
spies6Tiberius (5:24:43 PM): i dislike her feelings towards being HAPPY about the rey exile... i dont think a spy would be that open about it, so
spies6Tiberius (5:25:14 PM): i feel like she was building up her case as long as she could, sticking by it
spies6Tiberius (5:25:21 PM): and then it got support, and it happened
spies6Tiberius (5:25:24 PM): but she WAS the originator
spies6Kirsten (5:27:19 PM): spies6Tiberius (2:02:44 PM): jason drove a yvette exile, and i still believe him citizen
spies6Tiberius (5:27:34 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (5:27:38 PM): i know
spies6Tiberius (5:27:54 PM): which is why i keep saying my ariel suspicion is a bit unsubstantiated
spies6Kirsten (5:31:10 PM): so besides Ariel and Amelia
spies6Kirsten (5:31:17 PM): let's say Amelia is a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:31:20 PM): where do you look next?
spies6Kirsten (5:31:24 PM): if she's a cit, where do you look next?
spies6Tiberius (5:37:19 PM): one sec
spies6Tiberius (5:37:20 PM): phone
spies6Tiberius (5:37:21 PM): sorry
spies6Kirsten is available (5:40:31 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:42:49 PM): back
spies6Kirsten is available (5:42:49 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:42:51 PM): hmmm
spies6Tiberius (5:43:36 PM): honestly... i friggen dont know
spies6Kirsten (5:49:43 PM): you and ariel having fun?
spies6Tiberius (5:49:53 PM):
spies6Boris is available (4:45:28 PM)
spies6Boris (4:45:28 PM): omg tiberius
spies6Tiberius (4:45:32 PM): hello
spies6Boris (4:45:33 PM): like, how are you
spies6Tiberius (4:45:38 PM): like, awesome
spies6Boris (4:45:43 PM): like, totally
spies6Tiberius (4:45:51 PM): like, and you?
spies6Boris (4:45:57 PM): like, meh
spies6Tiberius (4:46:52 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:46:55 PM): you should be awesome like me
spies6Boris (4:46:57 PM): how do you feel about rey going bye bye?
spies6Boris (4:47:02 PM): i have no right to be awesome
spies6Tiberius (4:47:12 PM): i'm not happy about that
spies6Tiberius (4:47:17 PM): as i've expressed
spies6Boris (4:47:31 PM): i imagine no one is happy about it
spies6Tiberius (4:47:32 PM): i voted yes, and i REALLY regret it, because i could have stopped it
spies6Tiberius (4:47:42 PM): and was one of the few who were willing to
spies6Boris (4:47:49 PM): then why did you vote yes?
spies6Tiberius (4:48:31 PM): levi's private AIM case made me PREFER an amelia lynch
spies6Tiberius (4:48:35 PM): but
spies6Tiberius (4:48:40 PM): be OK with a rey lynch
spies6Tiberius (4:48:43 PM): but near the end there
spies6Tiberius (4:48:46 PM): i got REALLY suspicious
spies6Tiberius (4:48:52 PM): that the whole thing was a kangaroo court
spies6Tiberius (4:48:59 PM): for rey's exile
spies6Tiberius (4:49:06 PM): and my gut was telling me to block
spies6Tiberius (4:49:07 PM): but i didnt
spies6Tiberius (4:49:12 PM): and i feel friggen stupid
spies6Boris (4:49:22 PM): aha
spies6Boris (4:49:35 PM): levi made a private aim case?
spies6Tiberius (4:49:58 PM): yeah, and i posted it in my new thread
spies6Boris (4:50:14 PM): oh that
spies6Boris is available (4:50:39 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:50:43 PM): basdically, he boiled jenya's case into bullet points for me... which is what i had been asking for all along
spies6Boris is available (4:50:43 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:52:51 PM): and yeah... it convinced me
spies6Boris (4:52:59 PM): hmm
spies6Tiberius (4:58:01 PM): do you know what a kangaroo court is bori?
spies6Boris (4:58:09 PM): i'm quite aware
spies6Boris (4:58:30 PM): do you think the people in the exile were manipulating it because they thought he was scum or because they were scum?
spies6Tiberius (4:59:51 PM): i think it was a scum driven exile boris
spies6Tiberius (5:00:04 PM): but they were manipulating misguided citizens too
spies6Boris (5:00:08 PM): which one's in particular?
spies6Boris (5:00:21 PM): there were quite a few people driving the case home
spies6Boris (5:00:31 PM): you had levi with his case telling you to basically get rid of rey
spies6Tiberius (5:00:31 PM): i'm very very wary of ariel now, and this is the first time i've distrusted kirsten in awhile
spies6Tiberius (5:00:36 PM): and yes
spies6Tiberius (5:00:37 PM): levi
spies6Boris (5:01:39 PM): jenya basically came back from the dead and lead the whole cause against kirsten, ariel, and rey
spies6Boris (5:01:58 PM): saying that they were super citizens and we should get rid of them for being such great citizens but not getting exiled yet
spies6Boris (5:02:10 PM): there was ariel who took FOREVER in the exile to ask questions
spies6Boris (5:02:19 PM): specifically to the people who would not be voting for rey
spies6Boris (5:03:19 PM): and now kirsten has been wrong twice when she was certain thor and rey were scum
spies6Tiberius (5:03:28 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:03:31 PM): jenya
spies6Tiberius (5:03:43 PM): someone must have mentioned she's a super cit too right?
spies6Boris is available (5:05:59 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:06:07 PM): did you notice how everyone GRILLED rey on her amelia vote, but hte other amelia voters did nothing, and how pete myseriously switched votes seemingly without cause? frruustrattinng.
spies6Tiberius (5:06:18 PM): also... not sure you got this
spies6Tiberius (5:06:24 PM):
spies6Tiberius (5:03:28 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:03:31 PM): jenya
spies6Tiberius (5:03:43 PM): someone must have mentioned she's a super cit too right?
spies6Boris is available (5:07:07 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:22 PM): oop
spies6Boris is available (5:07:22 PM)
spies6Tiberius (5:07:33 PM): bad connection boris, so i might have missed you response
spies6Boris (5:07:39 PM): didn't make one
spies6Boris (5:08:08 PM): i was going to vote amelia, but the way the stupid thing was set up it was hard to cut in
spies6Boris (5:08:15 PM): though i kind of got grilled later and left
spies6Tiberius (5:08:43 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (5:08:52 PM): bah humbug to the whole thing
spies6Boris is available (5:40:31 PM)
spies6Kirsten is available (7:40:08 PM)
spies6Kirsten (6:25:09 PM): Tiberius
spies6Tiberius (6:25:17 PM): Kirsten
spies6Kirsten (6:25:21 PM): Hello
spies6Tiberius (6:25:25 PM): hiya
spies6Kirsten (6:25:36 PM): are you excited about this episode?
spies6Tiberius (6:26:41 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (6:26:56 PM): i'm interested to see what goes down, though "excitied" may not be the most fabo news
spies6Tiberius (6:26:57 PM): *word
spies6Kirsten is idle (7:20:36 PM)
spies6levi is available (4:32:38 PM)
spies6Tiberius (4:32:38 PM): hey
spies6Tiberius (4:32:41 PM): you wanted to talk to me?
spies6levi (4:32:45 PM): Yes I did
spies6levi (4:32:59 PM): . . . actually, I want to talk to everyone
spies6levi (4:33:15 PM): But I saw you posting in the Burg that day, and you weren't on AIM and the sooner I can hit everyone, the better
spies6Tiberius (4:33:28 PM): gotcha
spies6Tiberius (4:33:34 PM): yeah apparently we just missed each other
spies6levi (4:33:48 PM): Yesterday was a bit on the busy side for me anyways
spies6levi (4:34:05 PM): Let me get ready, and then we'll begin
spies6Tiberius (4:34:22 PM): oooo
spies6Tiberius (4:34:27 PM): i'ma about to get grilled? XD
spies6levi (4:34:42 PM): Don't worry, it doesn't make you special
spies6levi (4:34:50 PM): Every player is going to go through this this episode
spies6Tiberius (4:35:06 PM): gotcha
spies6levi (4:35:10 PM): Welcome to America's favorite television show, Meet the Players!
spies6levi (4:35:30 PM): Every episode we will profile one player of the smash hit online game Spies 6.
spies6levi (4:35:42 PM): Joining us for today's episode, resident comic book writer Tiberius!
spies6Tiberius (4:35:47 PM): B-)
spies6levi (4:36:06 PM): Some call him Shadow, others call him Sheep
spies6Tiberius (4:36:09 PM): hiya folks, check out my next project, Super Awesome Man 3, coming out this fall!
spies6levi (4:36:25 PM): Let's see if today's interview can shed some light on this man who writes about men of mystery
spies6levi (4:36:43 PM): As you know, you were a member of Team Cluster#$@! (family show)
spies6Tiberius (4:37:06 PM): innDEED
spies6levi (4:37:07 PM): You voted for Almathea, the first Spy in Spies history to be caught at the first Exile
spies6Tiberius (4:37:13 PM): yes, that too
spies6levi (4:37:16 PM): What made you vote for her?
spies6Tiberius (4:38:22 PM): I suspected her early after discovering that spies knew all along from her behaviour in pregame mafia, but i cant remember exactly what i did
spies6Tiberius (4:38:31 PM): i discussed her with rey early on, but that didn't convince me of much
spies6Tiberius (4:38:50 PM): i came on the day of exile, and discussed with I BELIEVE jason what was going on, he told me Alma was under a lot of heat
spies6Tiberius (4:39:04 PM): he told me the bullet points, and a team chat happened
spies6Tiberius (4:39:21 PM): alma broke down, and freaked out, i tried to talk to her in private but she was in freak out mode
spies6Tiberius (4:39:25 PM): so i laid a vote down on that yo
spies6Tiberius (4:40:27 PM): that's it
spies6Tiberius (4:40:37 PM): or my memory of it, i dont keep a good confessional
spies6levi (4:40:51 PM): You don't need to add disclaimers to everything
spies6levi (4:40:52 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:40:58 PM): ugh
spies6levi (4:41:05 PM): Yes, I am recording your answers
spies6Tiberius (4:41:24 PM): i seriously can't help that Levi, it's my personality, Ariel pointed that out early on in the game i recall
spies6levi (4:41:39 PM): *or at least I think she did, I may be wrong
spies6Tiberius (4:41:44 PM): i tried to fix it, but i just can't, it's... i'm an apologetic and guilty feelings kinda guy
spies6levi (4:41:47 PM): Jk, jk
spies6levi (4:41:56 PM): Back to the questions
spies6Tiberius (4:41:59 PM): indeed
spies6levi (4:42:11 PM): Exile #2 saw the first major voting shift of Spies 6: +/- voting.
spies6levi (4:42:24 PM): You +'d Jaya, the second Spy to be caught.
spies6levi (4:42:28 PM): What was your inspiration?
spies6levi (4:43:04 PM): (It's a simple question, no need to ask your Spy buddies)
spies6Tiberius (4:43:25 PM): sorry, i'm writing a pm for a survivor game at the same time
spies6Tiberius (4:43:26 PM): anyway
spies6Tiberius (4:44:03 PM): I was uninformed the exile[ SHOCK, AWE the CROWD CRIES TEARS OF SUPRISE] and voted for her because she voted the same as almathea last exile, as it was the only evidence i felt i had
spies6levi (4:45:08 PM): Why did you - resident cage fighter Roxy?
spies6Tiberius (4:46:27 PM): Because
spies6Tiberius (4:47:01 PM): I was so certain of her citizenship at the time due to gut, and indetifying with her having a hard time with adapting her ingrown survivor logic to the new feild of mafia, because I was doing that too, just sorta faster.
spies6Tiberius (4:47:06 PM): and she was still a suspect at the time.
spies6Tiberius (4:47:23 PM): I was pressued to - pete due to rey's campaign by thor and yvette
spies6Tiberius (4:47:24 PM): but i didnt
spies6levi (4:48:59 PM): Exile #3
spies6levi (4:49:08 PM): Three cases in the Burg: Levi, Donald, Yvette
spies6levi (4:49:12 PM): You vote Yvette
spies6levi (4:49:13 PM): Why?
spies6Tiberius (4:49:41 PM): I
spies6Tiberius (4:49:48 PM): a lot of the ideas Jason used
spies6Tiberius (4:49:55 PM): were actually ones i brought up to him
spies6Tiberius (4:50:12 PM): i was just high on the case, i felt like it was solid
spies6Tiberius (4:50:25 PM): i felt like yvette had been making a charachter as a spy sheild since before the reveal
spies6Tiberius (4:50:41 PM): and also that she had formed the "Robert trap" with evilllll guile
spies6Tiberius (4:50:49 PM): i was wrong, but I was damn certain at the time
spies6Tiberius (4:51:04 PM): ... oop, disclaimer, fuck me
spies6levi (4:51:15 PM): It's ok, it's not that big of a deal
spies6levi (4:51:47 PM): Exile #4
spies6Tiberius (4:51:57 PM): Honestly, I thought I was a bigger PART of that case than i really was, because i thought of a lot of the ideas that jason and jenya had independently of them
spies6Tiberius (4:52:01 PM): yvette i mean
spies6Tiberius (4:52:03 PM): go on though
spies6levi (4:52:13 PM): You voted Levi. Why?
spies6Tiberius (4:52:40 PM): I didn't like the donald case i never did
spies6levi (4:52:49 PM): (Trust me, I won't be offended. Just give me the bare naked truth.)
spies6Tiberius (4:52:56 PM): and i felt the level of case-age against you was stronger, that's it
spies6Tiberius (4:53:10 PM): i was
spies6Tiberius (4:53:16 PM): in "reactioniary" mode i guess
spies6Tiberius (4:53:26 PM): i just HATED the donald case initially so much that i refused to conjsider him as a spy
spies6Tiberius (4:53:36 PM): similar to how i've been so militant about roxy being cit
spies6Tiberius (4:53:48 PM): ...if that makes any sense
spies6levi (4:54:30 PM): Throughout the game, you'd been mentioning that you were suspicious of Faith.
spies6levi (4:54:48 PM): In fact, you even made a post containing alarm sound effects and calling it your Spy Alarm.
spies6Tiberius (4:54:58 PM): ahha
spies6Tiberius (4:54:58 PM): yup
spies6levi (4:55:01 PM): Yet at Exile #5, when Faith went home, you voted for Georgia.
spies6levi (4:55:02 PM): Why?
spies6Tiberius (4:55:59 PM): I really have no answer but what i told everyone, since the very first moments of the game, I had a painful gut feeling that screamed spy to me, combined with my desire to find that spy in the robert trap I actually persued that feeling
spies6levi (4:56:26 PM): NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
spies6levi (4:56:28 PM): ROXY LEFT
spies6levi (4:56:34 PM): I HAVE TO INTERVIEW HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies6Tiberius (4:56:36 PM): D=
spies6levi (4:56:40 PM): (sorry, lost control)
spies6levi (4:57:09 PM): Why didn't you vote in Exile #6?
spies6levi (4:57:22 PM): (Forum Mafia week)
spies6Tiberius (4:57:40 PM): You skipped why I voted for georgia instead of faith
spies6Tiberius (4:57:41 PM): ok
spies6Tiberius (4:57:42 PM): well
spies6levi (4:57:48 PM): Never mind
spies6levi (4:57:50 PM): Backtrack
spies6levi (4:57:57 PM): Why did you vote for Georgia instead of Faith.
spies6levi (4:58:20 PM): Sorry bout that
spies6Tiberius (4:58:25 PM): 's cool
spies6Tiberius (4:59:21 PM): i voted for georgia instead because my last minute conversation with faith shock my... heh.... faith in her being a spy because she seemed geniune and honest in her answers to my accusations, and not really knowing where to put my vote, i put it on someone who i 1. disliked and 2. sorta suspected, because... well I didnt know what the hell else to do
spies6levi (5:00:43 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:00:48 PM): Why did you not vote in Exile #6?
spies6levi (5:00:59 PM): (Also, what time is Imprisonment, I would like to know)
spies6Tiberius (5:01:24 PM): I have no idea what time imprisonment is, i forgot to check
spies6Tiberius (5:01:46 PM): I didnt vote in Exile 6 because me and pete were racing to get our iris votes in first, kept messing up formating, and he beat me
spies6Tiberius (5:02:09 PM): Iris to me there was just NO way she wasn't a spy, no way in hell, i just didnt get to voting in time
spies6levi (5:02:36 PM): Exile #7
spies6levi (5:02:44 PM): You voted Amelia, but Thor went home.
spies6levi (5:02:54 PM): Why did you vote Amelia? Why didn't you vote Thor?
spies6Tiberius (5:04:39 PM): I wasn't online the day of. had I, there's a chance i might have sheeped along with the Thor vote had it been explained to me. I knew kirsten's case, but I didn't know there would be action take on it that exile. In fact i'm susprised, and very suspicious that it did. I voted Amelia for the reasons I'm pushing it now, because a citizen doesnt confirm a spy role unless framed, and a frame seems unlikely, and any loopholes in the second phrase is too small
spies6levi (5:05:19 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:05:39 PM): Exile #8
spies6levi (5:05:46 PM): At the Pre-Exile vote, you voted Amelia.
spies6levi (5:05:55 PM): At the end of it, you chose not to block a Rey Exile.
spies6levi (5:06:05 PM): Explain.
spies6Tiberius (5:06:12 PM): stupid stupid stupid
spies6Tiberius (5:06:12 PM): ugh
spies6Tiberius (5:06:14 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (5:06:21 PM): I prefered an amelia vote all along
spies6Tiberius (5:06:31 PM): for the same reasons as before
spies6Tiberius (5:07:01 PM): but after hearing the bullet pointed case from you, i became convinced enough to say... eh, alright, he's scummy enough that I GUESS i wouldnt block
spies6levi (5:08:05 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:08:07 PM): Final Question
spies6Tiberius (5:08:08 PM): but at the end there when I saw georgia and gretchen fighting, and what i saw as kangaroo court behaviour start, I became sorta starting to think about blocking again, but i didn't, i'm not 100% sure why even now, maybe it was that i was tired and annoyed like everyone else
spies6Tiberius (5:08:11 PM): no there's more
spies6levi (5:08:13 PM): Nvm, lol
spies6Tiberius (5:08:14 PM): lol
spies6levi (5:08:14 PM): Continue
spies6Tiberius (5:10:04 PM): maybe it was that i was afraid of being supsicous, and this it he first time i've mentioned this outside confessionals, congrats on the scoop, because i became more interested in blocking ONCE people pointed out that if one person left Georgia wouldn't be enough, so if i anounced that i would block again RIGHT when that'd begin being discussed welll... i'd look icky. if rey turned out to be a spy in the end that'd make me look terrible. And citizens don't want to look like spies bra!
spies6levi (5:11:08 PM): Alright
spies6levi (5:11:09 PM): Thanks
spies6levi (5:11:14 PM): Final Question time?
spies6Tiberius (5:11:40 PM): yes
spies6levi (5:11:48 PM): There are three Spies remaining in this game.
spies6levi (5:11:52 PM): Name them. Give reasoning.
spies6Tiberius (5:13:07 PM): Amelia- I've told you why, only add that TWO citizens have gone down seemingly to protect her
spies6Tiberius (5:13:35 PM): Ariel- I feel like she was the primary force behind the farce that was the exile of rey and the things that lead to it. Mainly the shady activity involved in it, the kangaroo courtin
spies6Tiberius (5:14:14 PM): Last one? Hmmm... If i had to vote for three people now I guess Boris would be my third, but i can't formulate a reason 100%
spies6levi (5:14:56 PM): Thank you for your time
spies6levi (5:15:00 PM): This interview is now . . .
spies6levi (5:15:07 PM): Closed
spies6Tiberius (5:15:10 PM): alrighty
spies6levi is available (5:24:36 PM)
spies6levi (5:24:39 PM): Btw
spies6levi (5:24:44 PM): I ask that you speak of this interview to no one
spies6Tiberius (5:24:56 PM): oks
spies6levi is available (7:25:31 PM)
Stupid lawn got mowed by me . . .
spies6levi (7:27:28 PM): So, what's up now?
spies6Tiberius (7:28:16 PM): nothing of importance or interest
spies6levi (7:28:38 PM): Translation - Chatting with my Spy buddies
spies6Tiberius (7:29:55 PM): o you stop
spies6Tiberius (7:30:03 PM): i'm not doing anything spies realated at all actually
spies6levi (7:30:15 PM): It was a joke . . . no need to get defensive
spies6Tiberius (7:30:40 PM): "o you stop" is how i always respond to jokes in this game 0-o
spies6levi (7:31:07 PM): Duly noted
spies6Tiberius (7:32:13 PM): you will do well to mind the proclmations of your lord tibby
spies6georgia is available (3:44:12 PM)
spies6Tiberius (3:44:12 PM): ehem
spies6Tiberius (3:44:15 PM): Georgia ownage
spies6Tiberius (3:44:17 PM): is running wild
spies6Georgia (3:44:23 PM): Say what?
spies6Tiberius (3:44:32 PM): lol, your last post in the exile nine thread
spies6Tiberius (3:44:36 PM): impressed Tibby
spies6Georgia (3:44:47 PM): lol.
spies6Georgia (3:44:54 PM): what is gross Kangaroo Court?
spies6Georgia (3:44:58 PM): Too lazy to look it up
spies6Tiberius (3:45:07 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (3:45:12 PM): A Kangaroo Court
spies6Tiberius (3:45:38 PM): is bassically a court case that is rigged in order to make things faster and where due process rights are denied
spies6Georgia (3:46:34 PM): Ah.
spies6Tiberius (3:46:40 PM): i feel like the consensus exile was pretty much that
spies6Georgia (3:47:38 PM): Yeah. It is a good idea. But with so many people with time differences and commitments, it'll take longer. I think people should've expected that.
spies6Georgia (3:48:17 PM): Because towards the end, well even from the start people wanted it to end early. I think this is probably one of those exiles that the set-up really benefited the Spies more than the citizens.
spies6Tiberius (3:48:31 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (3:48:52 PM): but i also think even early on the whole thing as a rigged anti-rey trail yaknow?
spies6Georgia (3:49:11 PM): Jenya, Kirsten, and Ariel - would never of changed their vote.
spies6Georgia (3:49:22 PM): Though I keep forgetting that Ariel wasn't even around.
spies6Tiberius (3:50:04 PM): and worse yet
spies6Tiberius (3:50:17 PM): them being the current de facto burg leaders and ALL on the same train of thought...
spies6Tiberius (3:50:18 PM): ruh roh
spies6Georgia (3:51:20 PM): Yes well. I don't think all three are spies.
spies6Georgia (3:51:28 PM): If they were, then fucking good job at ballsy.
spies6Tiberius (3:51:43 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (3:51:54 PM): though I do think at least one of them is now, and my money's on ariel
spies6Georgia (3:52:10 PM): Mine is between Jenya and Ariel.
spies6Tiberius (3:53:14 PM): Mmm
spies6Tiberius (3:53:25 PM): yeah i'm not sure who i think is more scummy between kirsten and jenya
spies6Georgia (3:54:09 PM): I think Jenya is more scummy looking than Kirsten.
spies6Tiberius (3:54:31 PM): any particular reasons why or just sense?
spies6Georgia (3:55:34 PM): Jenya has the mislynches of both Yvette and Rey that can pretty much be laid at her feet.
spies6Tiberius (3:55:49 PM): kirsten has thor
spies6Georgia (3:56:02 PM): I thought Mirela was the big pusher in that.
spies6Tiberius (3:57:50 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (3:57:54 PM): kirsten came up with the case
spies6Tiberius (3:58:07 PM): but
spies6Tiberius (3:58:26 PM): i wasn't there for that exile and so i still dont know the details, i've asked but got mixed stories
spies6Georgia (3:58:59 PM): I think the most obvious and easiest statement to make involving it. Is that a bunch of people bandwagoned, and it was kept secret.
spies6Tiberius (4:00:18 PM): the fact that it went down like THAT is a big reason why i'm being stubborn and pigheaded abotu amelia this episode ^_^
spies6Georgia (4:02:19 PM): Yeah. It was a dirty way to play. If what Jason said in regards to it, is true. Then where the fuck is Mirela with her cases against her spy suspects.
spies6Tiberius (4:02:53 PM): mmm
spies6Tiberius (4:02:54 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:03:02 PM): knowledge should be made public
spies6Tiberius (4:03:19 PM): my confessional is almost empty, as ive told sam, because i post my open thoughts in the burg almost all the time
spies6Tiberius (4:03:30 PM): and there's no reason to write twice XD
spies6Georgia (4:04:33 PM): Haha. It is a good place to compile thoughts regarding each person.
spies6Tiberius (4:04:53 PM): maybe that's why my posts seems so word-vomity sometimes <_<
spies6Georgia (4:06:15 PM): It is also a good place to rant. Or like right now, I'm going through and compiling a full and completed version of the Meeting Minutes. Including the cases presented, the question/answer portions. And any other tidbit that is interesting/suspicious/useful.
spies6Tiberius (4:07:20 PM): well
spies6Tiberius (4:07:24 PM): that's very interesting
spies6Tiberius (4:07:42 PM): i should really make more use of it, i did take the time to spill my ANGRY THOUGHTS about the exile at least in there XD
spies6Georgia (4:10:01 PM): lol.
spies6Georgia (4:10:43 PM): It may just be me. But everyone is like "agreeing" on people whom are suspicious. Yourself, Khaled, Amelia - I think are the top three.
spies6Tiberius (4:11:36 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (4:11:39 PM): i know i'm guilty of that
spies6Tiberius (4:12:10 PM): it really is just because i get easily overwhelmed and am busy, but i understand that excuse is tiring <_<
spies6Georgia (4:12:54 PM): I think people are just really starting to take the easy way out.
spies6Georgia (4:13:30 PM): Yeah in the beginning it could occur without much damage. But as the end gets nearer, and the numbers dwindle. Taking the easy road, can be much more disastrous.
spies6Tiberius (4:14:24 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:14:59 PM): i... know
spies6Georgia (4:26:16 PM): What did you and Ariel fight about?
spies6Tiberius (4:26:35 PM): one sec, i'll explain in a bit dealin with sometinh
spies6Georgia (4:28:02 PM): okay.
spies6Tiberius (4:29:32 PM): bassicallly
spies6Tiberius (4:29:43 PM): i accused her of being THE driving force behind the kangaroo court stuff
spies6Georgia (4:32:05 PM): And I take it she reacted badly to that. lol
spies6Tiberius (4:32:08 PM): o
spies6Tiberius (4:32:09 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (4:32:14 PM): i imagine i'm the new rey XD
spies6Georgia (4:32:44 PM): Haha. I doubt it.
spies6Tiberius (4:34:18 PM): she's disliked me for awhile though, this just made the problem worse
spies6Georgia (4:37:21 PM): lol. Dislike =/= Spy
spies6Tiberius (4:37:26 PM): i'm aware
spies6Tiberius (4:37:41 PM): i meant in that i'm probably the one she likes least
spies6Tiberius (4:37:45 PM): not as in top suspect wise
spies6Georgia (4:37:49 PM): Just look. The most "disliked" people of this game, have all been citizens.
spies6Georgia (4:38:32 PM): Well some people equate their dislike of a person to be suspect. I mean, that some people turn their dislike for a person into that person being a suspect.
spies6Tiberius (4:39:43 PM): yes indeed
spies6Tiberius (4:39:54 PM): like when i was REALLY pissed at you I so WANTED to believe you were a spy XD
spies6Tiberius (4:39:57 PM):
spies6Tiberius (4:40:07 PM):
spies6Georgia (4:40:11 PM): haha. you weren't the only one.
spies6Tiberius (4:40:49 PM): btw, you've been a lot better lately, i appreciate taht
spies6Georgia (4:42:04 PM): Haha. I honestly was surprised that (in my opinion), I was one of the more level-headed during the consensus meeting. And dear Amelia thought I would use the position as DA to validate being mean/nasty to people. Oh my, such.. bullshit. xD
spies6Tiberius (4:44:28 PM): yes, you handled it well
spies6Tiberius (4:44:34 PM): i sure wish people had listened more to you T_T
spies6Tiberius (4:44:43 PM): ... including me XD
spies6Georgia (4:45:23 PM): Meh. I think it was a pain in the ass really. Jenya, Kirsten, and Ariel - never would've changed their mind.
spies6Georgia (4:45:49 PM): The people whom probably would've changed their mind, or not voted for Rey - weren't even able to vote. So. Meh.
spies6Tiberius (4:46:10 PM): yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:46:20 PM): well... it must have sucked to have been in that position... whoopsie
spies6Georgia (4:47:10 PM): whoopsie?
spies6Tiberius (4:47:31 PM): err
spies6Tiberius (4:47:37 PM): not sure what i meant with that actually XD
spies6Georgia (4:51:00 PM): I think even if someone had come out and said "Rey is citizen, because someone investigated him and found him citizen". The votes would not of changed. But that is just me.
spies6Tiberius (4:51:15 PM): ahaha
spies6Tiberius (4:51:16 PM): probably
spies6Georgia (4:51:38 PM): Though I wonder why Rey even left the chat. If he hadn't of left, then he would've been saved from Exile.
spies6Georgia (4:51:47 PM): I think.
spies6Georgia (4:52:12 PM): Yes, if he had stayed. Both him and I would've been blocking his exile.
spies6Tiberius (4:52:18 PM): fell asleep again?
spies6Tiberius (4:52:25 PM): but yeah
spies6Tiberius (4:52:27 PM): good question
spies6Georgia (4:52:43 PM): He left right after the vote seeing who would block the Rey exile.
spies6Georgia (4:52:55 PM): Maybe he thought he would just be exiled, the dumb ass.
spies6Georgia (4:53:19 PM): I hope he is smacking himself in the face repeatedly for his own stupidity. If that is the reason.
spies6Tiberius (4:54:07 PM): yeah, don't give up like that
spies6Tiberius (4:54:39 PM): so, random question georgia, there was a time where you were very darn certian that i was a spy it seemed, has your supsicion been going down or up lately?
spies6Georgia (4:55:50 PM): I doubt I was darn certain. Otherwise I would've voted for you, if I was that certain.
spies6Tiberius (4:56:06 PM): true
spies6Tiberius (4:56:09 PM): so
spies6Tiberius (4:56:14 PM): cut out that, is it down or up lately?
spies6Georgia (4:57:13 PM): About the same as always. I think you are suspicious mostly because of your continual sheep behavior.
spies6Tiberius (4:58:04 PM): gotcha
spies6Tiberius (4:58:19 PM): yup, and i've said anything i can to explain that, and i have nothing else for you
spies6Georgia (4:59:04 PM): I know.
spies6Georgia (4:59:15 PM): But it doesn't mean that explaining it, explains it away.
spies6Tiberius (4:59:28 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (4:59:56 PM): i'm aware, i'm in a position where i'm doing something suspcious but I can't explain it any more, so if it leads to my doom... it leads to my doom
spies6Georgia (5:03:17 PM): Today should be interesting. Imprisonment and Time Capsule.
spies6Tiberius (5:03:31 PM): o... the time capsule, indeed
spies6Georgia (5:03:42 PM): This is like the first imprisonment that I'm actually worried about.
spies6Tiberius (5:05:03 PM): i'm always worried, but i've been getting LESS so over time
spies6Tiberius (5:05:29 PM): i mean, this is the first round people other than you have voiced real solid suspicions of me XD
spies6Georgia (5:09:01 PM): lol.
spies6Georgia (5:13:51 PM): Why less so?
spies6Tiberius (5:17:35 PM): because
spies6Tiberius (5:17:57 PM): if people voice suspicions of you, you are less likely to go, because the spies would rather try to exile you yes?
spies6Georgia (5:22:29 PM): William was imprisoned, and people were suspicious of him.
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spies6Tiberius (5:23:21 PM): i'm just sayin, it does make things less likely
spies6Georgia is idle (5:32:29 PM)
spies6georgia is available (7:49:27 PM)
spies6Tiberius (7:49:27 PM): hello
spies6georgia is available (9:05:45 PM)
spies6Georgia (9:05:45 PM): Hello.
spies6Tiberius (9:06:11 PM): was just signing off actually, i'll talk to you either later tonight or tommorow georgia
spies6Georgia (9:06:52 PM): Alright. cya
Sam's edit: changed title to reflect the correct episode