Post by Khaled on Jul 8, 2009 19:49:54 GMT -5
[19:01] spies6khaled: Who should I check tonight?
[19:01] spies6Jenya: Hmm, no clue.
[19:02] spies6Jenya: I really wish you'd help catch spies, Khaled.
[19:02] spies6Jenya: I really wanted your advice about Rey and you never gave it.
[19:02] spies6khaled: I was gone, sorry.
[19:02] spies6Jenya: You said you'd give your opinion on Rey AFTER his exile.. what was it, anyway?
[19:03] spies6khaled: Misguided and brash, but not exile-worthy is what I would've liked to say.
[19:03] spies6khaled: Had I been there at the time though, I probably would've ended up doing what Pete did.
[19:04] spies6Jenya: If you have time, let's talk more later.
[19:04] spies6khaled: Sounds good. No suggestions on who to view though?
[19:05] spies6Jenya: Not really, I can't think of anything that would work. What kind of spy role would be targeting anyone at this point?
[19:05] spies6Jenya: I doubt roleblocker, but you never know.
[19:05] spies6Jenya: Maybe see if anyone does anything to Kirsten?
[19:05] spies6khaled: Yeah. I was thinking either you, Ariel, or Kirsten.
[19:11] spies6khaled: Actually, backing up quickly. I'm collating my views, and I got a yes on Tiberius Episode 7. Know if Jason used his power on Tibs then?
[19:11] spies6Jenya: It would surprise me. Would that be his self-immunity?
[19:12] spies6Jenya: But that shouldn't be a role action.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Indeed.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Here's my summary of things, by the way.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Imprisonment 9: Kirsten--??
Imprisonment 8: Rey--No.
Imprisonment 7: Jason--No, Tiberius--Yes.
Imprisonment 6: Oswald--Yes, Roxy--No.
Imprisonment 5: Faith--No, Roxy--No.
Imprisonment 4: Iris--Yes, Georgia--No.
Imprisonment 3: Levi--Yes.
Imprisonment 2: Faith--No.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Just in case.
[19:15] spies6Jenya: Why did you target Iris?
[19:18] spies6khaled: I thought she might get targeted
[19:18] spies6khaled: Turns out, she did--she got Jailed.
[20:37] spies6khaled: She's full of shit.
[20:37] spies6khaled: Mirela.
[20:43] spies6Jenya: Why?
[21:16] spies6khaled: Her post exile reaction.
[21:17] spies6khaled: Regardless of that, Kirsten gets a no.
[17:39] spies6Levi: Are you available?
[17:50] spies6khaled: I am now, what's up?
[17:50] spies6Levi: I would like to ask you a few questions about your role
[17:50] spies6khaled: Go for it.
[17:50] spies6Levi: If you were to watch someone that got Imprisoned, would you catch any Spies?
[17:51] spies6khaled: No
[17:52] spies6khaled: As Sam said, "Imprisonment choices by the Spies will not be included in this answer and for the purposes of your role are irrelevant."
[17:52] spies6Levi: So you could only find roles
[17:53] spies6Levi: No offense, but that seems more useful to Spies than to Citizens
[17:53] spies6khaled: Meta-thought is dangerous thought.
[17:53] spies6Levi: True
[17:54] spies6Levi: But you used meta-thought as reasoning for one of your Spy picks
[17:54] spies6Levi: In our interview
[17:54] spies6khaled: There's degres of that too.
[17:54] spies6khaled: Game balance is something I'm irresistably involved in, whether I'm playing or designing games.
[17:55] spies6khaled: Role placement is one thing "this could be a cit/spy role" vs. "this game state is heavily weighted towards this set of players"
[17:56] spies6khaled: However, the latter could be offset with a counterbalance--think baseball for instance.
[17:56] spies6Levi: Counterbalance = a miller type role, correct?
[17:56] spies6Levi: Or giving the weaker side a power role
[17:56] spies6khaled: Those could be ways of doing it
[17:57] spies6Levi: But this brings up a non-role related question I have for you, which I forgot to ask earlier
[17:57] spies6Levi: You suspect Mirela becasue the startign game would be broken if she wasn't a Spy
[17:57] spies6Levi: Not only does that say nothing about her play or behavior
[17:58] spies6Levi: But Sam said many times
[17:58] spies6Levi: That the teams were randomly distributed
[17:58] spies6khaled: That's true. It is possible that there was only one spy on the team.
[17:59] spies6Levi: But if that is true
[18:00] spies6Levi: Then why is it your only reason
[18:00] spies6Levi: For suspecting Mirela?
[18:00] spies6khaled: It's not the only reason, it's the only reason I gave you at the time.
[18:01] spies6Levi: Why wouldn't you give me any more reasons than that?
[18:01] spies6khaled: I was tired and distracted
[18:01] spies6khaled: In the midst of our conversation, I was experimenting with various song mixes for an upcoming dance.
[18:02] spies6Levi: . . . of all the excuses I expected to get, that was not one of them
[18:02] spies6Levi: Wow
[18:02] spies6Levi: but anyways
[18:02] spies6Levi: Care to share your other reasons for suspecting Mirela?
[18:05] spies6khaled: Let's see (sorry, jumping back and forth between you, Jenya, and Kirsten)
[18:08] spies6khaled: Phew okay. So, first is the underground way Mirela handled Thor's exile
[18:08] spies6khaled: Second is her voting record
[18:09] spies6Levi: Alright
[18:09] spies6Levi: The biggest question I wanted to ask you is
[18:09] spies6Levi: You claim to have watched me Imprisonment 3
[18:10] spies6Levi: Who visited me?
[18:10] spies6khaled: That will be answered later
[18:10] spies6khaled: I'm going to make a post with a fairly detailed story about my reveal, etc.
[18:10] spies6Levi: Alsoo
[18:11] spies6Levi: Jenya told me that when you first came out to her, you said you didn't learn the name of who visited your target
[18:11] spies6Levi: But in yoru Time Capsule
[18:11] spies6Levi: *your
[18:11] spies6Levi: You said you did learn the name
[18:11] spies6khaled: Also will be answered =P
[18:11] spies6Levi: Which is the truth, and why?
[18:11] spies6Levi: Er, you beat me
[18:11] spies6khaled: Hah
[18:11] spies6khaled: Don't worry
[18:12] spies6khaled: Give me a bit and I'll answer these questions in the Burg.
[18:12] spies6Levi: Ok
[18:12] spies6Levi: Here's a non-role related question though
[18:12] spies6Levi: When I asked for Spy picks
[18:12] spies6Levi: Both you and Boris game Amelia, Mirela, and a list of four
[18:13] spies6khaled: Haha
[18:13] spies6Levi: *gave
[18:13] spies6khaled: Coincidence. Like how you and Boris voted identically in the first three rounds.
[18:13] spies6Levi: It was wierd though
[18:13] spies6Levi: Because I didn't notice that
[18:13] spies6Levi: Until after I began suspecting the two of you were Spies
[18:14] spies6Levi: (to be honest, my third Spy pick, Gretchen, also picked Mirela)
[18:15] spies6khaled: ...You said you interviewed everyone, right?
[18:15] spies6khaled: How many people picked Mirela?
[18:16] spies6Levi: That's a very good question
[18:16] spies6Levi: I will answer it as soon as I am done interviewing Jason
[18:16] spies6khaled: k
[18:16] spies6Levi: I haven't done every interview, I still need to get Amelia and Jason
[18:17] spies6khaled: Got it.
[18:18] spies6Levi: Which do you think is more suspicious about Mirela? Voting record or Thor exile?
[18:19] spies6khaled: Voting record is what gets me more, frankly.
[18:20] spies6Levi: Alright
[18:20] spies6Levi: Have you seen Jason's voting record?
[18:21] spies6khaled: There's more to Jason (see thread shortly)
[18:21] spies6Levi: The way your pimping this thread, I'm gettin excited lol
[18:22] spies6khaled: Haha, well, most of the questions you (and others) have asked I'll be answering
[18:22] spies6khaled: so there's no point in saying the same thing 50 times
[18:22] spies6Levi: Of course, I remember when I was getting interrogated by everyone and their brother
[18:23] spies6Levi: Do you have any other reasons to suspect Amelia besides the Iris connection?
[18:23] spies6khaled: 64 pins was weird
[18:24] spies6Levi: What do you think of the fact that Iris really did give Amelia the immunity?
[18:24] spies6Levi: *the possibility
[18:25] spies6Levi: Sorry, didn't word that question right
[18:26] spies6khaled: All good. I think it's possible, but it seems weird. For that to be the case, Iris must've had a role/ability that handed out imprisonments, before the game started, and she chose Amelia.
[18:26] spies6khaled: There's three assumptions there.
[18:26] spies6khaled: Vs. Amelia started the game with imprisonment immunity (one assumption)
[18:26] spies6khaled: Vs. Amelia is a spy (one assumption)
[18:27] spies6Levi: Amelia is a Spy is actually two assumptions
[18:27] spies6khaled: ...What's the second?
[18:28] spies6Levi: Crap, I need to take a break
[18:28] spies6Levi: I keep wording things wrong
[18:28] spies6khaled: Hah, all good. Take your time
[18:29] spies6Levi: That wasn't even what I meant
[18:29] spies6Levi: What I meant was
[18:29] spies6Levi: "So you think that Amelia would verify Iris's claim, even after it was revealed that she lied?"
[18:30] spies6khaled: She may have. I know that if I were in that position, I wouldn't have, but she seems confused enough that it might have been a lucky break for us.
[18:32] spies6Levi: Seems like a lot of lucky breaks for us though
[18:32] spies6Levi: (this doesn't disprove anything)
[18:33] spies6Levi: Almathea freaking out . . . Jaya being the only person to vote with her . . . Iris flubbing a role claim . . . Amelia tryign to save her
[18:33] spies6khaled: True.
[18:34] spies6khaled: But, if you see a twenty in the street, are you going to question why it's there?
[18:35] spies6Levi: No
[18:36] spies6Levi: But
[18:36] spies6Levi: Apples and oranges
[18:36] spies6Levi: What do you make of Iris confessing in her time capsule?
[18:36] spies6khaled: I'm still baffled.
[18:36] spies6Levi: I'm not
[18:36] spies6Levi: I think I know why she did that
[18:37] spies6Levi: Would you say that Iris thought out most of the details of her role claim fairly well?
[18:38] spies6Levi: She had the name, she had the gifts, she had the recipients
[18:38] spies6Levi: I believe that her gift to Donald
[18:38] spies6Levi: (because I believe she actually had a role)
[18:38] spies6Levi: Was either the jailing or something else, exactly what doesn't matter
[18:39] spies6Levi: I believe she changed it in her claim for one reason
[18:39] spies6khaled: She could have made it up on the spot, too.
[18:39] spies6Levi: She wanted to take some citizens down with her
[18:39] spies6khaled: Or, she could have thought through it ahead of time.
[18:39] spies6Levi: With the intent of taking down some cits
[18:40] spies6Levi: Her claiming when she did ensured that Faith went home
[18:40] spies6Levi: A one-for-one trade isn't that great
[18:40] spies6Levi: flash back to time capsule
[18:40] spies6Levi: She confesses in it
[18:40] spies6Levi: Obviously operating under the assumption taht she would be gone
[18:40] spies6Levi: By the time it was opened
[18:41] spies6Levi: I think she used the claim to make herself a martyr for the Spies
[18:41] spies6Levi: She framed Amelia to bring two cits down with her
[18:41] spies6Levi: SHe knew she was going to do this, so she knew she would be gone
[18:41] spies6Levi: So she knew it was safe to confess in her confessional
[18:43] spies6khaled: Possible.
[18:43] spies6khaled: If not Amelia, then who?
[18:47] spies6Levi: As you already know, I suspect you, Boris, and Gretchen
[19:02] spies6Levi: Sorry to bother you
[19:02] spies6Levi: But when is this post gonna be posted?
[19:04] spies6khaled: Soon
[19:05] spies6khaled: There
[19:05] spies6Levi: w00t
[19:17] spies6Levi: I have a question
[19:17] spies6Levi: Aside from pushing Faith and Iris, and your early game analysis posts, what have you contributed recently to the game?
[19:18] spies6khaled: Recently, not much, I admit
[19:18] spies6Levi: By recently, I mean post Iris exile
[19:18] spies6khaled: I haven't had nearly as much time for the current game as I did for the early game, though.
[19:19] spies6khaled: Hell, after Iris I freely admit that I haven't done anything useful aside from my latest post.
[19:19] spies6khaled: But as I said, I haven't had as much time as I did previously. The game being on break and my vacation after that didn't help either.
[19:21] spies6Levi: My viewpoint of your role:
[19:23] spies6Levi: To be honest, I think it's worthless as a role, except for confirming other roles
[19:24] spies6khaled: And it's done that.
[19:24] spies6Levi: May I ask the name of the role that you confirmed?
[19:24] spies6Levi: Not the name of who has the role
[19:24] spies6Levi: But the role itself
[19:25] spies6khaled: Confirmed William's and the Destiny Deflector
[19:26] spies6Levi: How did it confirm Williams?
[19:26] spies6Levi: I thought he only got one investigation, unless I'm mistaken
[19:27] spies6khaled: Right. He checked you, and got a result back from Rey.
[19:27] spies6khaled: And my view got a yes on you
[19:27] spies6Levi: Oh, that night the yes could have meant destiny deflector
[19:27] spies6Levi: It could have meant William
[19:28] spies6Levi: And it could have meant Ellis
[19:28] spies6khaled: All three, in fact.
[19:28] spies6Levi: Wait, you got a number of how many people visited?
[19:28] spies6khaled: No
[19:28] spies6khaled: But the "yes" refers to AT LEAST one.
[19:28] spies6khaled: All three is still yes.
[19:29] spies6Levi: So technically, it didn't verify all three, but I get the deal
[19:29] spies6khaled: Right.
[19:29] spies6khaled: Independently, it's all "he-said, she-said"
[19:29] spies6khaled: That view happens to nail it down.
[19:33] spies6Levi: About Tiberius
[19:33] spies6Levi: You got a Yes Imprisonmnent 7
[19:33] spies6Levi: Did the DD visit Tiberius that time?
[19:34] spies6khaled: No
[19:35] spies6Levi: That would mean another role is afoot that hasn't come out yet
[19:35] spies6Levi:
[19:38] spies6khaled: Exactly.
[19:01] spies6Jenya: Hmm, no clue.
[19:02] spies6Jenya: I really wish you'd help catch spies, Khaled.
[19:02] spies6Jenya: I really wanted your advice about Rey and you never gave it.
[19:02] spies6khaled: I was gone, sorry.
[19:02] spies6Jenya: You said you'd give your opinion on Rey AFTER his exile.. what was it, anyway?
[19:03] spies6khaled: Misguided and brash, but not exile-worthy is what I would've liked to say.
[19:03] spies6khaled: Had I been there at the time though, I probably would've ended up doing what Pete did.
[19:04] spies6Jenya: If you have time, let's talk more later.
[19:04] spies6khaled: Sounds good. No suggestions on who to view though?
[19:05] spies6Jenya: Not really, I can't think of anything that would work. What kind of spy role would be targeting anyone at this point?
[19:05] spies6Jenya: I doubt roleblocker, but you never know.
[19:05] spies6Jenya: Maybe see if anyone does anything to Kirsten?
[19:05] spies6khaled: Yeah. I was thinking either you, Ariel, or Kirsten.
[19:11] spies6khaled: Actually, backing up quickly. I'm collating my views, and I got a yes on Tiberius Episode 7. Know if Jason used his power on Tibs then?
[19:11] spies6Jenya: It would surprise me. Would that be his self-immunity?
[19:12] spies6Jenya: But that shouldn't be a role action.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Indeed.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Here's my summary of things, by the way.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Imprisonment 9: Kirsten--??
Imprisonment 8: Rey--No.
Imprisonment 7: Jason--No, Tiberius--Yes.
Imprisonment 6: Oswald--Yes, Roxy--No.
Imprisonment 5: Faith--No, Roxy--No.
Imprisonment 4: Iris--Yes, Georgia--No.
Imprisonment 3: Levi--Yes.
Imprisonment 2: Faith--No.
[19:14] spies6khaled: Just in case.
[19:15] spies6Jenya: Why did you target Iris?
[19:18] spies6khaled: I thought she might get targeted
[19:18] spies6khaled: Turns out, she did--she got Jailed.
[20:37] spies6khaled: She's full of shit.
[20:37] spies6khaled: Mirela.
[20:43] spies6Jenya: Why?
[21:16] spies6khaled: Her post exile reaction.
[21:17] spies6khaled: Regardless of that, Kirsten gets a no.
[17:39] spies6Levi: Are you available?
[17:50] spies6khaled: I am now, what's up?
[17:50] spies6Levi: I would like to ask you a few questions about your role
[17:50] spies6khaled: Go for it.
[17:50] spies6Levi: If you were to watch someone that got Imprisoned, would you catch any Spies?
[17:51] spies6khaled: No
[17:52] spies6khaled: As Sam said, "Imprisonment choices by the Spies will not be included in this answer and for the purposes of your role are irrelevant."
[17:52] spies6Levi: So you could only find roles
[17:53] spies6Levi: No offense, but that seems more useful to Spies than to Citizens
[17:53] spies6khaled: Meta-thought is dangerous thought.
[17:53] spies6Levi: True
[17:54] spies6Levi: But you used meta-thought as reasoning for one of your Spy picks
[17:54] spies6Levi: In our interview
[17:54] spies6khaled: There's degres of that too.
[17:54] spies6khaled: Game balance is something I'm irresistably involved in, whether I'm playing or designing games.
[17:55] spies6khaled: Role placement is one thing "this could be a cit/spy role" vs. "this game state is heavily weighted towards this set of players"
[17:56] spies6khaled: However, the latter could be offset with a counterbalance--think baseball for instance.
[17:56] spies6Levi: Counterbalance = a miller type role, correct?
[17:56] spies6Levi: Or giving the weaker side a power role
[17:56] spies6khaled: Those could be ways of doing it
[17:57] spies6Levi: But this brings up a non-role related question I have for you, which I forgot to ask earlier
[17:57] spies6Levi: You suspect Mirela becasue the startign game would be broken if she wasn't a Spy
[17:57] spies6Levi: Not only does that say nothing about her play or behavior
[17:58] spies6Levi: But Sam said many times
[17:58] spies6Levi: That the teams were randomly distributed
[17:58] spies6khaled: That's true. It is possible that there was only one spy on the team.
[17:59] spies6Levi: But if that is true
[18:00] spies6Levi: Then why is it your only reason
[18:00] spies6Levi: For suspecting Mirela?
[18:00] spies6khaled: It's not the only reason, it's the only reason I gave you at the time.
[18:01] spies6Levi: Why wouldn't you give me any more reasons than that?
[18:01] spies6khaled: I was tired and distracted
[18:01] spies6khaled: In the midst of our conversation, I was experimenting with various song mixes for an upcoming dance.
[18:02] spies6Levi: . . . of all the excuses I expected to get, that was not one of them
[18:02] spies6Levi: Wow
[18:02] spies6Levi: but anyways
[18:02] spies6Levi: Care to share your other reasons for suspecting Mirela?
[18:05] spies6khaled: Let's see (sorry, jumping back and forth between you, Jenya, and Kirsten)
[18:08] spies6khaled: Phew okay. So, first is the underground way Mirela handled Thor's exile
[18:08] spies6khaled: Second is her voting record
[18:09] spies6Levi: Alright
[18:09] spies6Levi: The biggest question I wanted to ask you is
[18:09] spies6Levi: You claim to have watched me Imprisonment 3
[18:10] spies6Levi: Who visited me?
[18:10] spies6khaled: That will be answered later
[18:10] spies6khaled: I'm going to make a post with a fairly detailed story about my reveal, etc.
[18:10] spies6Levi: Alsoo
[18:11] spies6Levi: Jenya told me that when you first came out to her, you said you didn't learn the name of who visited your target
[18:11] spies6Levi: But in yoru Time Capsule
[18:11] spies6Levi: *your
[18:11] spies6Levi: You said you did learn the name
[18:11] spies6khaled: Also will be answered =P
[18:11] spies6Levi: Which is the truth, and why?
[18:11] spies6Levi: Er, you beat me
[18:11] spies6khaled: Hah
[18:11] spies6khaled: Don't worry
[18:12] spies6khaled: Give me a bit and I'll answer these questions in the Burg.
[18:12] spies6Levi: Ok
[18:12] spies6Levi: Here's a non-role related question though
[18:12] spies6Levi: When I asked for Spy picks
[18:12] spies6Levi: Both you and Boris game Amelia, Mirela, and a list of four
[18:13] spies6khaled: Haha
[18:13] spies6Levi: *gave
[18:13] spies6khaled: Coincidence. Like how you and Boris voted identically in the first three rounds.
[18:13] spies6Levi: It was wierd though
[18:13] spies6Levi: Because I didn't notice that
[18:13] spies6Levi: Until after I began suspecting the two of you were Spies
[18:14] spies6Levi: (to be honest, my third Spy pick, Gretchen, also picked Mirela)
[18:15] spies6khaled: ...You said you interviewed everyone, right?
[18:15] spies6khaled: How many people picked Mirela?
[18:16] spies6Levi: That's a very good question
[18:16] spies6Levi: I will answer it as soon as I am done interviewing Jason
[18:16] spies6khaled: k
[18:16] spies6Levi: I haven't done every interview, I still need to get Amelia and Jason
[18:17] spies6khaled: Got it.
[18:18] spies6Levi: Which do you think is more suspicious about Mirela? Voting record or Thor exile?
[18:19] spies6khaled: Voting record is what gets me more, frankly.
[18:20] spies6Levi: Alright
[18:20] spies6Levi: Have you seen Jason's voting record?
[18:21] spies6khaled: There's more to Jason (see thread shortly)
[18:21] spies6Levi: The way your pimping this thread, I'm gettin excited lol
[18:22] spies6khaled: Haha, well, most of the questions you (and others) have asked I'll be answering
[18:22] spies6khaled: so there's no point in saying the same thing 50 times
[18:22] spies6Levi: Of course, I remember when I was getting interrogated by everyone and their brother
[18:23] spies6Levi: Do you have any other reasons to suspect Amelia besides the Iris connection?
[18:23] spies6khaled: 64 pins was weird
[18:24] spies6Levi: What do you think of the fact that Iris really did give Amelia the immunity?
[18:24] spies6Levi: *the possibility
[18:25] spies6Levi: Sorry, didn't word that question right
[18:26] spies6khaled: All good. I think it's possible, but it seems weird. For that to be the case, Iris must've had a role/ability that handed out imprisonments, before the game started, and she chose Amelia.
[18:26] spies6khaled: There's three assumptions there.
[18:26] spies6khaled: Vs. Amelia started the game with imprisonment immunity (one assumption)
[18:26] spies6khaled: Vs. Amelia is a spy (one assumption)
[18:27] spies6Levi: Amelia is a Spy is actually two assumptions
[18:27] spies6khaled: ...What's the second?
[18:28] spies6Levi: Crap, I need to take a break
[18:28] spies6Levi: I keep wording things wrong
[18:28] spies6khaled: Hah, all good. Take your time
[18:29] spies6Levi: That wasn't even what I meant
[18:29] spies6Levi: What I meant was
[18:29] spies6Levi: "So you think that Amelia would verify Iris's claim, even after it was revealed that she lied?"
[18:30] spies6khaled: She may have. I know that if I were in that position, I wouldn't have, but she seems confused enough that it might have been a lucky break for us.
[18:32] spies6Levi: Seems like a lot of lucky breaks for us though
[18:32] spies6Levi: (this doesn't disprove anything)
[18:33] spies6Levi: Almathea freaking out . . . Jaya being the only person to vote with her . . . Iris flubbing a role claim . . . Amelia tryign to save her
[18:33] spies6khaled: True.
[18:34] spies6khaled: But, if you see a twenty in the street, are you going to question why it's there?
[18:35] spies6Levi: No
[18:36] spies6Levi: But
[18:36] spies6Levi: Apples and oranges
[18:36] spies6Levi: What do you make of Iris confessing in her time capsule?
[18:36] spies6khaled: I'm still baffled.
[18:36] spies6Levi: I'm not
[18:36] spies6Levi: I think I know why she did that
[18:37] spies6Levi: Would you say that Iris thought out most of the details of her role claim fairly well?
[18:38] spies6Levi: She had the name, she had the gifts, she had the recipients
[18:38] spies6Levi: I believe that her gift to Donald
[18:38] spies6Levi: (because I believe she actually had a role)
[18:38] spies6Levi: Was either the jailing or something else, exactly what doesn't matter
[18:39] spies6Levi: I believe she changed it in her claim for one reason
[18:39] spies6khaled: She could have made it up on the spot, too.
[18:39] spies6Levi: She wanted to take some citizens down with her
[18:39] spies6khaled: Or, she could have thought through it ahead of time.
[18:39] spies6Levi: With the intent of taking down some cits
[18:40] spies6Levi: Her claiming when she did ensured that Faith went home
[18:40] spies6Levi: A one-for-one trade isn't that great
[18:40] spies6Levi: flash back to time capsule
[18:40] spies6Levi: She confesses in it
[18:40] spies6Levi: Obviously operating under the assumption taht she would be gone
[18:40] spies6Levi: By the time it was opened
[18:41] spies6Levi: I think she used the claim to make herself a martyr for the Spies
[18:41] spies6Levi: She framed Amelia to bring two cits down with her
[18:41] spies6Levi: SHe knew she was going to do this, so she knew she would be gone
[18:41] spies6Levi: So she knew it was safe to confess in her confessional
[18:43] spies6khaled: Possible.
[18:43] spies6khaled: If not Amelia, then who?
[18:47] spies6Levi: As you already know, I suspect you, Boris, and Gretchen
[19:02] spies6Levi: Sorry to bother you
[19:02] spies6Levi: But when is this post gonna be posted?
[19:04] spies6khaled: Soon
[19:05] spies6khaled: There
[19:05] spies6Levi: w00t
[19:17] spies6Levi: I have a question
[19:17] spies6Levi: Aside from pushing Faith and Iris, and your early game analysis posts, what have you contributed recently to the game?
[19:18] spies6khaled: Recently, not much, I admit
[19:18] spies6Levi: By recently, I mean post Iris exile
[19:18] spies6khaled: I haven't had nearly as much time for the current game as I did for the early game, though.
[19:19] spies6khaled: Hell, after Iris I freely admit that I haven't done anything useful aside from my latest post.
[19:19] spies6khaled: But as I said, I haven't had as much time as I did previously. The game being on break and my vacation after that didn't help either.
[19:21] spies6Levi: My viewpoint of your role:
[19:23] spies6Levi: To be honest, I think it's worthless as a role, except for confirming other roles
[19:24] spies6khaled: And it's done that.
[19:24] spies6Levi: May I ask the name of the role that you confirmed?
[19:24] spies6Levi: Not the name of who has the role
[19:24] spies6Levi: But the role itself
[19:25] spies6khaled: Confirmed William's and the Destiny Deflector
[19:26] spies6Levi: How did it confirm Williams?
[19:26] spies6Levi: I thought he only got one investigation, unless I'm mistaken
[19:27] spies6khaled: Right. He checked you, and got a result back from Rey.
[19:27] spies6khaled: And my view got a yes on you
[19:27] spies6Levi: Oh, that night the yes could have meant destiny deflector
[19:27] spies6Levi: It could have meant William
[19:28] spies6Levi: And it could have meant Ellis
[19:28] spies6khaled: All three, in fact.
[19:28] spies6Levi: Wait, you got a number of how many people visited?
[19:28] spies6khaled: No
[19:28] spies6khaled: But the "yes" refers to AT LEAST one.
[19:28] spies6khaled: All three is still yes.
[19:29] spies6Levi: So technically, it didn't verify all three, but I get the deal
[19:29] spies6khaled: Right.
[19:29] spies6khaled: Independently, it's all "he-said, she-said"
[19:29] spies6khaled: That view happens to nail it down.
[19:33] spies6Levi: About Tiberius
[19:33] spies6Levi: You got a Yes Imprisonmnent 7
[19:33] spies6Levi: Did the DD visit Tiberius that time?
[19:34] spies6khaled: No
[19:35] spies6Levi: That would mean another role is afoot that hasn't come out yet
[19:35] spies6Levi:
[19:38] spies6khaled: Exactly.