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[Khaled]

This one is an intense conversation.

[14:54] spies6Mirela: hello khaled
[14:54] spies6khaled: Hey there
[14:55] spies6Mirela: how are you?
[14:55] spies6khaled: Doing alright. Doing post-digging.
[14:55] spies6Mirela: who do you plan on voting tonight?
[14:56] spies6khaled: I still don't know. Maybe Georgia
[14:57] spies6Mirela: maybe georgia? why?
[14:57] spies6khaled: Aside from Gretchen, she's the most disconnected person in the Burg I know.
[14:58] spies6khaled: Then, there's her voting record.
[14:58] spies6khaled: Which she defended as "Well, those are my votes for who I thought was a spy"
[14:58] spies6Mirela: khaled, i have a major issue with you right now
[14:58] spies6Mirela: a major major issue
[14:58] spies6khaled: Shocker. What is it?
[14:58] spies6Mirela: i'm afraid i'm going to have to do everything in my power to get you exiled
[14:59] spies6khaled: Because...?
[14:59] spies6Mirela: i investigated you
[14:59] spies6Mirela: i can't say anything more than that
[14:59] spies6Mirela: but the results said that you were a spy
[14:59] spies6khaled: You're the investigator then, hm.
[14:59] spies6khaled: I don't know what's worse.
[15:00] spies6khaled: The fact that we're now both going to be exiled, or the fact that it's now likely that the Burg will be out two exiles.
[15:00] spies6Mirela: and why do you say that?
[15:00] spies6khaled: Because there's only two solutions to this.
[15:00] spies6khaled: 1. Your investigation is false, for some Cop Sanity reason.
[15:01] spies6khaled: 2. You're a spy.
[15:01] spies6Mirela: um your forgetting the third solution
[15:01] spies6Mirela: that your a spy
[15:01] spies6khaled: Except I'm not.
[15:01] spies6Mirela: you can't really prove that
[15:01] spies6khaled: Not without being axed, no.
[15:02] spies6Mirela: do you know why i was immune from two exiles?
[15:02] spies6khaled: Jenya protected you
[15:02] spies6khaled: And/or you took an immunity as a prize.
[15:02] spies6Mirela: yes, but the reason why protected me was because i approached her with my investigation role
[15:02] spies6khaled: Question then, if you're the investigator. What was your powerup?
[15:03] spies6Mirela: i was able to investigate two people at once
[15:03] spies6khaled: And Jenya has both of your results?
[15:04] spies6Mirela: i've told jenya all the results to my investigations so far, because she was the very first person i investigated
[15:04] spies6Mirela: khaled, it looks really bad for right now
[15:04] spies6khaled: Hold up.
[15:04] spies6Mirela: you had me fooled
[15:04] spies6khaled: How many investigations have you had total?
[15:04] spies6Mirela: i'm not going to say anything more
[15:05] spies6Mirela: your a spy, and i don't want you leaking information to your spy buddies
[15:05] spies6khaled: No, here's the thing.
[15:05] spies6Mirela: i'm probably going to get imprisoned next episode
[15:06] spies6khaled: Jenya told me there was a player that received an investigation this imprisonment, for surviving.
[15:06] spies6khaled: Presumably, that player was you.
[15:06] spies6khaled: However, unless either Jenya was bullshitting, or you're trying a gambit
[15:06] spies6khaled: You couldn't have checked Jenya first.
[15:07] spies6Mirela: jenya lied to you about that
[15:08] spies6Mirela: why on earth would she tell you the truth about my role?
[15:09] spies6Mirela: anyways, a part of me knew your watcher role was a spy one
[15:09] spies6khaled: *Sigh*
[15:09] spies6Mirela: not only that, but you freakin spilled jason's name to the public?
[15:09] spies6khaled: Accidental.
[15:09] spies6Mirela: was it an accident when you slipped up when talking to me?
[15:10] spies6khaled: You told me that you knew who he was.
[15:10] spies6khaled: I got unlucky and used a pronoun.
[15:10] spies6Mirela: it seems you've been unlucky a lot lately khaled
[15:10] spies6khaled: C'est la vie.
[15:10] spies6khaled: Exile away.
[15:10] spies6Mirela: you played a good game nonetheless
[15:11] spies6khaled: Not really.
[15:11] spies6Mirela: well your a spy who managed to make it to the final eleven
[15:11] spies6khaled: Have fun being the next exile target, though.
[15:11] spies6Mirela: why would i be the next exile target?
[15:12] spies6khaled: Because I'm going to flip cit, and at least three other people know that I got investigated.
[15:12] spies6Mirela: who exactly?
[15:12] spies6khaled: Jenya, Jason, Kirsten.
[15:13] spies6khaled: And once they hear that the reason I got knocked out was because of an investigation, they're going to string you up.
[15:13] spies6Mirela: that won't happen
[15:13] spies6Mirela: because your a spy
[15:13] spies6Mirela: once you flip spy
[15:13] spies6khaled: ...Except -I'm not going to-
[15:13] spies6Mirela: i get some more citizen points. god knows i need them haha
[15:14] spies6Mirela: that's not what it says in sam's post in my confessional
[15:14] spies6Mirela: only one more spy to go! woo!
[15:14] spies6khaled: I'd say to double check, but I'm thinking through the possibilities.
[15:15] spies6khaled: If you're a spy, that'll leave us at...7 players, 1 spy. Not a bad situation, I suppose.
[15:16] spies6khaled: If you're a cit, then it's 7 players, 2 spies, and we'll have such a winner of a postgame conversation, ha.
[15:16] spies6Mirela: haha
[15:16] spies6Mirela: all i know is that this game is coming to an end real fast
[15:17] spies6khaled: Probably not, but meh.
[15:17] spies6Mirela: why are you so disappointed?
[15:17] spies6Mirela: you should have known this day was coming
[15:17] spies6khaled: You say that with such certainty.
[15:18] spies6khaled: I'll be honest, I didn't think that Sam would use either variant sanity investigations, or that the spies would kamikaze.
[15:19] spies6Mirela: well sam has a tendency to surprise us lol
[15:20] spies6khaled: So let me ask you this, then.
[15:20] spies6khaled: If I'm a spy. Why haven't you or Jenya posted that to the Burg yet?
[15:21] spies6Mirela: i don't know if i can tell you that, because i'm trying to do anything to avoid imprisonment
[15:22] spies6khaled: At least 3 people know about the investigation. Jenya's known as knowing who it is.
[15:22] spies6khaled: Why wouldn't she make a Burg post?
[15:22] spies6khaled: When did you tell her?
[15:22] spies6Mirela: your not in a position to ask me questions khaled
[15:22] spies6khaled: No, I am.
[15:22] spies6Mirela: no, your not.
[15:22] spies6khaled: You have to be accountable in some form.
[15:23] spies6Mirela: do you think just because i know your a spy and your going to be exiled i'm going to spill everything to you?
[15:23] spies6Mirela: yeah right
[15:23] spies6khaled: You have 30 seconds to tell me, or I make a Burg post about a bullshit investigator named Mirela.
[15:23] spies6Mirela: is that a threat?
[15:24] spies6Mirela: your post will be useless khaled. jenya will only disprove you
[15:24] spies6khaled: So then why can't you tell me when you told Jenya?
[15:25] spies6Mirela: because i'm giving you information, which in turn gives the other last spy the information
[15:25] spies6khaled: Oh noes, the spy knows a TIME.
[15:25] spies6khaled: Holy shit, that's so gamebreaking.
[15:25] spies6Mirela: don't get upset khaled just because you've been discovered
[15:25] spies6khaled: You've had over 3 minutes now to MAKE UP A TIME.
[15:25] spies6khaled: And you still haven't even done that?
[15:25] spies6khaled: Bull-shit.
[15:26] spies6Mirela: someone's getting a temper
[15:26] spies6khaled: Oh, of course. Bullshit irritates me just as much as the next person.
[15:27] spies6Mirela: no, i'm irritated by your bullshit
[15:27] spies6Mirela: trying to come off as a citizen
[15:27] spies6khaled: ...It's not trying when it's true.
[15:27] spies6Mirela: but it's not true
[15:27] spies6khaled: THEN WHY DOES NOBODY ELSE KNOW
[15:27] spies6Mirela: why does everything have to be public khaled?
[15:28] spies6khaled: Either you're bullshitting, or you're the WORST. CIT. EVER.
[15:28] spies6khaled: You have a MOUTHPIECE.
[15:28] spies6khaled: Jenya can publicly post your results
[15:28] spies6Mirela: i'm not taking any risks dude
[15:28] spies6khaled: Have you not played this game before at all? Do you know about collusive lockdown?
[15:28] spies6Mirela: ACTUALLY
[15:28] spies6Mirela: i've played in two of sams games before this one
[15:29] spies6khaled: ...Do you know what collusive lockdown is?
[15:29] spies6Mirela: what is it?
[15:30] spies6khaled: It's a strategy that, with a cop and a mouthpiece, raises the win percentage of the cits to over 90%
[15:31] spies6khaled: When a cop claims to a viewee, the viewee states publicly that they've received an investigator claim.
[15:31] spies6khaled: Asks for counterclaims.
[15:32] spies6khaled: Now, the spies, in this scenario, can choose whether or not to counterclaim
[15:32] spies6khaled: If they do, the viewee then gives the cop and copclaimant a target every night. If the target turns a spy to either, he/she is lynched.
[15:33] spies6khaled: On a false result, the false result giver is lynched
[15:33] spies6khaled: In case the alignment isn't revealed on death, a tally is kept.
[15:33] spies6khaled: Once 2 spies from the cop and cop claimant are lynched
[15:33] spies6khaled: The cop and the claimant are lynched.
[15:34] spies6khaled: The viewee, meanwhile, will confirm cits, since if both the cop and the claimant say that a player is cit, the player is cit.
[15:35] spies6khaled: The scum have to choose then between the newly confirmed person or the mouthpiece.
[15:35] spies6khaled: If there isn't a spy result, you lynch from the unconfirmeds.
[15:36] spies6khaled: Cits win in that situation over 90% of the time.
[15:36] spies6Mirela: for someone who knows so much about mafia, you haven't really helped the citizens out this game
[15:37] spies6khaled: How many spies have you voted for Mirela?
[15:37] spies6khaled: Oh wait.
[15:37] spies6khaled: And then you didn't want to lynch someone you were convinced was a spy.
[15:37] spies6Mirela: i already explained that
[15:38] spies6khaled: Yeah. Poorly.
[15:38] spies6khaled: I'm sorry, but "I'm stupid" doesn't fly.
[15:39] spies6Mirela: i love how your voting for me.
[15:39] spies6Mirela: desperate move
[15:39] spies6khaled: I love how you still haven't given me a time.
[15:39] spies6khaled: A full 15 minutes later.
[15:39] spies6khaled: When did you tell Jenya?
[15:42] spies6khaled: What's the name of your role?
[15:42] spies6Mirela: i'm not answering your questions khaled
[15:42] spies6khaled: Something doesn't add up here, Mirela.
[15:43] spies6khaled: I'm not asking for sensitive details.
[15:43] spies6khaled: And you're not answering me.
[15:43] spies6Mirela: don't expect anything more out of me
[15:43] spies6Mirela: you've heard enough
[15:43] spies6Mirela: so go ahead and tell your spy buddies
[15:44] spies6khaled: How about the whole Burg? That way, when you magically avoid imprisonment, you'll still be held accountable for your crap.
[15:45] spies6khaled: How many episodes did you get a double investigation?
[15:45] spies6khaled: And (this one, you don't have to tell me, but you do have to tell Jenya) did your investigations mesh with my watches?
[15:48] spies6Mirela: why were you visited last night khaled?
[15:48] spies6khaled: Aside from mine, Mirela.
[15:48] spies6khaled: You could be a spy with some other kind of role.
[15:48] spies6khaled: The other 8 Imprisonments.
[15:49] spies6khaled: There's 12 watches you have to mesh with.
[15:49] spies6Mirela: explain just HOW you were visited
[15:49] spies6Mirela: if you think i'm bullshitting
[15:49] spies6Mirela: why did it say yes, hm?
[15:50] spies6khaled: Maybe you, as a spy, have some kind of investigative ability?
[15:50] spies6Mirela: LOL
[15:50] spies6khaled: Or your spy partner does, or so forth.
[15:51] spies6Mirela: i don't believe that's true here khaled
[15:51] spies6Mirela: is that the best you can come up with?
[15:51] spies6khaled: Well, I remembered another thing.
[15:51] spies6khaled: Your views would also have to mesh with the Destiny Deflector.
[15:51] spies6khaled: And those aren't public.
[15:52] spies6khaled: Not all of them, at least.
[15:52] spies6Mirela: that's not the point khaled, the point is, you were visited last night due to MY investigation
[15:52] spies6Mirela: how can you say i'm not telling the truth
[15:52] spies6Mirela: when your OWN ROLE says you were indeed visited
[15:52] spies6khaled: Because you're a spy, Mirela.
[15:53] spies6Mirela: LMAO now you think i'm a spy?
[15:55] spies6khaled: Your story doesn't add up, Mirela.
[15:55] spies6khaled: If you got investigations, how did you manage to only vote for one spy?
[15:56] spies6khaled: And four cits, and two unknowns that are likely cit?
[15:57] spies6Mirela: why do you think you were visited khaled? explain the possibilities
[15:58] spies6khaled: Clearly, I was suspected of being a spy. But why are you avoiding my questions?
[15:58] spies6Mirela: i told you i'm not going to answer any of your questions.
[15:59] spies6Mirela: what other roles are left?
[15:59] spies6khaled: Why aren't you going to answer them, when none of them reveal sensitive information?
[15:59] spies6Mirela: i don
[15:59] spies6Mirela: t want to give you any information period
[16:00] spies6khaled: Mirela, if you're a citizen, you should be able to be accountable for everything you do. That's called good citizen play. It doesn't matter if you don't answer me.
[16:00] spies6khaled: But you do need to tell someone.
[16:02] spies6Mirela: ariel, jenya, will khaled, jason, and myself are the individuals we know of who have roles
[16:02] spies6Mirela: oh add donald since he was most likely the jailer
[16:03] spies6Mirela: ariel, william, and jenya are citizens
[16:03] spies6Mirela: i'm a citizen
[16:03] spies6Mirela: which means
[16:03] spies6Mirela: khaled and jason are the only ones left. it only makes sense your role is a spy one
[16:07] spies6khaled: Okay. I'm about to make a post.
[16:07] spies6Mirela: do what you will
[16:07] spies6khaled: You'll have about 30 minutes to do things in reasonable time.
[16:07] spies6Mirela: do things?
[16:09] spies6khaled: You won't answer them to me
[16:09] spies6khaled: So now, deal with the public.
[16:09] spies6khaled: Last post of my thread.

[Khaled]

[19:22] spies6khaled: I'm an idiot.
[19:23] spies6khaled: And thereby, sorry for fucking up.
[19:23] spies6Jason: Oh no..
[19:24] spies6Jason: Its ok MAYBE NOBODY NOTICED
[19:24] spies6Jason: Caps
[19:24] spies6khaled: Nah, Levi did.
[19:24] spies6khaled: Anyway. Later. Sorry again.
[19:25] spies6Jason: Its OK, it was going to happen eventually... later
[00:28] *** "spies6Jason" signed off at Sun Jul 12 00:28:05 2009.
[11:23] *** "spies6Jason" signed on at Sun Jul 12 11:23:35 2009.
[12:27] spies6khaled: So, we're lucky(er) than anticipated
[12:27] spies6khaled: I don't think Kirsten and Georgia caught the slip
[12:27] spies6khaled: About your role
[12:28] spies6Jason: Well, that would be lucky but I totally slipped myself to Kirsten today
[12:28] spies6khaled: Hah
[12:28] spies6Jason:
spies6Kirsten (12:53:37 PM): did he claim yes before he knew what Jenya + DD's actions were?

sPIEs6Jason (12:53:58 PM): Nope, not mine anyway because I told him the night of Tibby's Imprisonment bleh

spies6Kirsten (12:54:39 PM): alright..

spies6Kirsten (12:55:22 PM): I pretty much figured it was you, but now I know :-)

sPIEs6Jason (12:55:29 PM): Mother fuck
[12:28] spies6Jason: I feel so smart
[12:30] spies6Jason: But I'm glad Georgia didnt notice..
[12:30] spies6Jason: Since I think she's a Spy
[12:31] spies6khaled: Last night, she asked me some questions about my role and the DD
[12:31] spies6khaled: Like, "what makes your role a cit role, Khaled?" "what about the DD?" etc, clearly like she didn't k now
[12:31] spies6Jason: Awesme... Hopefully it can stay that way
[12:32] spies6Jason: Although it seems like it's close to being common knowledge now
[12:32] spies6Jason: If it makes you feel better Levi knew before you slipped, apparently he'd asked Jenya something about DD and she said she wasnt sure... and then a few minutes later told him the answer, and you, her and myself and Levi were the only ones online
[12:34] spies6khaled: Ah
[12:35] spies6khaled: I still feel like an idiot, since that's the first time in several mafia games that I've accidentally slipped, period
[12:35] spies6Jason: I'd say that';s still a great track record
[12:35] spies6Jason: It's not a huge deal anyway, if I get imprisoned it will be over getting voted the msot trusted Cit, not this
[12:36] spies6khaled: Yeah
[12:37] spies6khaled: Man, I want to go see a movie today.
[12:38] spies6khaled: But I have to choose between that and playing spies
[12:38] spies6Jason: Yeah... Who's your vote on? if you're locked in you might be safe to leave
[12:39] spies6khaled: That's the thing, I don't know yet.
[12:39] spies6khaled: I have to determine if I should play the survival vote
[12:39] spies6khaled: Or the 'that-person-is-shady-as-fuck" vote
[12:40] spies6Jason: Well, if the Investigation result ever gets told to Jenya that will tell a lot about what will happen tonight
[12:40] spies6Jason: We might have a definite Spy to vote off... or someone cleared to narrow the choices
[12:42] spies6khaled: I checked myself last night, by the way.
[12:42] spies6khaled: Got a yes.
[12:42] spies6Jason: I guess you've probably figured out what that means by now
[12:42] spies6khaled: No, I haven't.
[12:42] spies6Jason: I'm pretty sure they Investigated you
[12:43] spies6khaled: Well, that much, I figured.
[12:43] spies6khaled: But I'm seriously wondering who the fuck did it, that they haven't told Jenya yet.
[12:44] spies6khaled: Everybody's made a post.
[12:44] spies6Jason: Except Pete
[12:44] spies6Jason: I think he has to be it
[12:44] spies6khaled: Only person I can think of.
[12:45] spies6Jason: I was watching yesterday... everyone else was on AIM at some point other than Gretchen, and she psoted for an hour
[12:45] spies6khaled: Yeah, I haven't seen her either
[12:46] spies6khaled: Fuck, you realize what's going to happen if I get exiled? I'm willing to bet that the investigator is a cit, because it'd be too ballsy for a spy to make that move.
[12:46] spies6khaled: I flip, next exile, investigator gets lynched.
[12:46] spies6khaled: Meanwhile, the remaining spies are counting their lucky stars.
[12:46] spies6Jason: I'm not going to let that happen...
[12:47] spies6khaled: Since they just made it past 2 exiles; 2 more and they win.
[12:47] spies6Jason: If it looks like you're in trouble and the result hasn't come in I'm going to announce that you were investigated and that we should hold off votes on you until it comes in
[12:47] spies6khaled: Kirsten knows, she said a couple things about it in the chat.
[12:48] spies6Jason: Yeah she apparently knew of the investigatr before we did
[12:49] spies6Jason: I'm not really sure why Jenya told one of her suspects and not us
[12:54] spies6khaled: That's weird.
[12:54] spies6khaled: Unless she is the investigator.
[12:55] spies6Jason: Kirsten?
[12:55] spies6Jason: She should've told Jenya the result by now if thats true
[12:55] spies6khaled: Yeah
[12:57] spies6Jason: And it's possible Jenya might've gotten a reward for lasting this long and she actually has it
[12:57] spies6Jason: But I can't imagine her pretending like she doesnt have the result yet
[12:58] spies6khaled: I have a theory that she's playing at suspecting me, but doesn't actually.
[12:58] spies6Jason: That's very possible, maybe to save you
[12:59] spies6khaled: She's definitely smarter than she lets on.
[12:59] spies6Jason: Yeah, she\ covers every angle all the time, for sure
[13:01] spies6khaled: It's definitely questionable behavior if its true. Thing is, there's only one way she could be a spy, and that's if she's doing the Dark Knight Joker strategy.
[13:01] spies6Jason: What strategy is that??
[13:01] spies6khaled: Kill all your spy partners. All of them.
[13:02] spies6Jason: Lol...
[13:02] spies6Jason: Honestly it's possible
[13:02] spies6khaled: It's the most risky play I know of.
[13:03] spies6Jason: The only other solutions I can see for her not telling us the result are if Pete has it and hasnt told her or if you're a Spy and she thinks you and I are Spies together
[13:04] spies6khaled: The second scenario is the only other plausible one, except for the fact that I'm not a spy.
[13:04] spies6khaled: And if she thinks that I'm a spy, people already know that there was an investigation, and there will be hell to pay.
[13:05] spies6Jason: Yeah... she'll be dead if she knows and hasn't told us
[15:04] spies6khaled: Well, solution's been found.
[15:07] spies6Jason: Solution??
[15:08] spies6khaled: Mirela, it seems.
[15:12] spies6Jason: I'm about as on the fence as I can get on her
[15:21] spies6khaled: Alright. Mirela says that I'm a spy. I think she's full of shit.
[15:22] spies6Jason: -_-
[15:23] spies6Jason: Wait, she was the investigator?
[15:23] spies6khaled: So she says.
[15:24] spies6Jason: Well... that's news
[15:24] spies6khaled: She also refuses to tell me when she told Jenya.
[15:25] spies6Jason: I'm going to try something..
[15:29] spies6Jason: Didnt work
[15:29] spies6khaled: Figures.
[15:42] spies6Jason: Is she still saying you're a Spy?
[15:42] spies6khaled: Yes.
[15:42] spies6Jason: Well, you said you watched yourself... and got Yes
[15:43] spies6khaled: Yes.
[15:43] spies6Jason: So... either you're a Spy and got caught, or she's a Spy with another role BSing you
[15:43] spies6khaled: It's #2.
[15:43] spies6khaled: She refuses to tell me when she gave her result to Jenya.
[15:43] spies6khaled: Or her role name.
[15:43] spies6khaled: Since when are those sensitive details?
[15:44] spies6Jason: Sounds like a spy to me
[15:52] spies6khaled: Jenya's going to need to fact check this, and make sure that Mirela's views mesh with mine, and with your deflections.
[15:52] spies6Jason: Yeah
[15:52] spies6Jason: We need her on... ASAP
[16:10] spies6khaled: Alright
[16:10] spies6khaled: I made my move.
[16:10] spies6khaled: Now it's her turn.
[16:10] spies6Jason: Lol what'd you do?
[16:10] spies6khaled: The last post of my thread.