10:44:49 PM Kirsten: Can I ask you why you voted Yvette?
10:45:00 PM Boris: yes
10:45:23 PM Boris: :-p
10:45:56 PM Boris: i was going to reconsider because of the indiscrepincy with her leading the jaya wagon
10:46:08 PM Boris: if that were a true thing i would have been very happy not voting for her
10:46:26 PM Boris: alas, I found in her thread that she had not lead that waggon
10:46:36 PM Boris: so, wam
10:46:42 PM Boris: i hit her with a vote
10:46:57 PM Kirsten: I'm pretty sure the assertion made in the thread was based on no evidence whatsoever
10:47:03 PM Kirsten: although, it is true she did not lead it
10:47:09 PM Kirsten: I don't remember that piece of evidence being in her thread
10:47:13 PM Boris: it was there
10:47:14 PM Boris: hold on
10:48:54 PM Boris: it was on the first page
10:48:56 PM Boris: posted by rey
10:49:04 PM Boris: Also, Ariel was the one that led the Jaya exile, not Yvette.
Yvette clearly states that somewhere in the Burg.
10:49:23 PM Boris: fuck, that's shakey looking back on it
10:49:43 PM Boris: anyway, whatever, that's why the reconsidering thing didn't happen
10:49:52 PM Kirsten: when we talked though
10:50:12 PM Kirsten: the impression I got was that you were suspicious of her because of the combination of her response to Paris as well as her voting Paris
10:50:19 PM Kirsten: but she did not vote Paris
10:50:31 PM Boris: the paris thing was an oversite
10:50:42 PM Boris: but that she didn't vote for him didn't change much
10:50:58 PM Boris: i was more interested in her potentially leading the wagon against jaya
10:51:04 PM Boris: i'm sorry it came off the other way
10:51:26 PM Kirsten: what do you think about her voting you
10:51:34 PM Kirsten: did she ever discuss it with you?
10:51:48 PM Boris: i find it justifiable given that i am such lurking scum
10:51:51 PM Boris: and no
10:51:52 PM Kirsten: hahaha
10:51:57 PM Boris: i never spoke to her
10:51:58 PM Boris: ever
10:52:00 PM Boris: not once
10:52:05 PM Kirsten: ok
10:52:09 PM Boris: so i have no idea why she voted for me
10:52:27 PM Boris: unless she left a package for people to reveal later, i won't know until the after game
10:52:37 PM Kirsten: well, I will say that you do look like lurking scum. 3 bandwagon votes, and not much done.
10:53:04 PM Boris: i will argue that yvette was not a bandwagon vote, since i was in on that way early in the episode
10:53:13 PM Boris: i just sucked with posting anything in the burg
10:53:25 PM Kirsten: ok
10:53:29 PM Kirsten: I guess that's fair enough
10:53:35 PM Boris: as for paris . . . yeah, that was pure jumping the wagon
10:53:56 PM Boris: roxy i legit thought was scummy that episode
10:54:03 PM Boris: for episode one
10:54:07 PM Kirsten: what was the basis?
10:54:15 PM Kirsten: the chat with Levi? Or something else?
10:54:51 PM Boris: no, i had talked to her that episode, and some other reason i forget because i don't think she is scum anymore after finding out jaya was pushing her episode 2
10:55:42 PM Kirsten: outside of Mirela, where are you at right now?
10:55:51 PM Kirsten: who are the spies?
10:56:03 PM Boris: off the top of my head?
10:56:13 PM Boris: mirela
10:56:28 PM Boris: oh shit, you've run into my shitty way of playing mafia
10:56:48 PM Boris: i only really focus on one or two people per episode
10:57:18 PM Kirsten: ok, well let me ask you this
10:57:34 PM Kirsten: before Khaled proved Mirela was lying, where were you at?
10:58:00 PM Boris: crossing people off of my list for this episode, to see who i should be focusing on
10:58:09 PM Kirsten: ok
10:58:19 PM Kirsten: you're not giving me much to work with Boris
10:58:26 PM Boris: ugh
10:58:27 PM Kirsten: hehe
10:58:57 PM Boris: this episode i chose to ignore: ellis, khaled, rey, and you
10:59:01 PM Boris: and then i read levi's post
10:59:07 PM Boris: and thought: wait, mirela didn't sign off
10:59:22 PM Boris: discovered a serious coding flaw in my aim program
10:59:25 PM Boris: and then asked khaled
10:59:38 PM Boris: left home, taught my grandmother how to use an i-pod (fucking hard)
10:59:44 PM Kirsten: hahaha
10:59:53 PM Boris: came back here, saw she did not sign off as i thought
10:59:54 PM Kirsten: teaching old people how to use electronics...I understand the pain
11:00:03 PM Boris: and now you have my process this episode
11:00:17 PM Kirsten: alright
11:00:46 PM Boris: by ignore, i'm not saying i won't look at any case against them
11:00:54 PM Boris: i simply am not looking hard at them personally
11:01:28 PM Kirsten: why Khaled?
11:02:14 PM Boris: while his rampant posting of information without a whole lot of analysis is suspect, he worked hard in the challenges I was involved with him in
11:03:18 PM Boris: as was rey
11:03:20 PM Boris: also
11:03:37 PM Boris: while levi looks very suspicious to some
11:03:49 PM Boris: he won the seven letter challenge
11:04:04 PM Boris: speaking of which, i said i was going to talk to him tonight
11:04:54 PM Kirsten: 7 letter challenge?
11:05:00 PM Kirsten: that's not the same one as the Mirela one?
11:05:07 PM Boris: mirela was in that one as well
11:05:19 PM Boris: but is not the one she is facing the jury for
11:05:22 PM Kirsten: ok
11:05:38 PM Kirsten: so you think her lying directly means she is a spy?
11:05:50 PM Boris: i think it means she has some splanin to do
11:06:44 PM Boris: what do you think it means?
11:07:00 PM Kirsten: The above. What you said
11:07:10 PM Kirsten: I work off of what I think people's motivations are.
11:07:30 PM Kirsten: and I don't see her motivation for lying about something that could be so easily proved as either alignment
11:10:33 PM Boris: kirsten, who did you vote for last episode?
11:10:39 PM Kirsten: Levi
11:10:43 PM Boris: why?
11:10:58 PM Kirsten: for the reasons I have posted in my thread on him
11:11:10 PM Boris: RAGERAGERAGE
11:11:13 PM Kirsten: and because he had 2 self-votes
11:11:21 PM Kirsten: rage?
11:11:38 PM Boris: yes, rage
11:11:43 PM Kirsten: why are you enraged?
11:11:53 PM Boris: i'm not really
11:12:09 PM Boris: just reacting to a curt answer
11:12:22 PM Boris: are you still suspicious of him
11:12:23 PM Boris: ?
11:12:30 PM Boris: / will you put him at the top of your list?
11:13:08 PM Kirsten: yes, maybe but at this point leaning no
11:13:20 PM Boris: pff
11:13:26 PM Boris: that's all three answers at once
11:13:30 PM Kirsten: I am still suspicious of him, but his actions recently make me feel citizen on him
11:14:00 PM Kirsten: basically, there is my gut feeling he is a citizen, against the evidence that makes him look like a spy
11:15:06 PM Kirsten:
spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=704&page=3#641811:15:14 PM Kirsten: that is the evidence
11:21:41 PM Boris: just so it doesn't blind side you later
11:21:53 PM Kirsten: uh oh
11:21:53 PM Boris: i find gretchen suspicious as well
11:22:23 PM Boris: also you're a spy because i had the investigation and investigated you and sam totally said "OMG SPY FOUND!!!!!!"
11:22:38 PM Kirsten: damn...blindsided
11:22:58 PM Boris: i realize i had poor word choice there
11:23:03 PM Kirsten: yeah
11:23:17 PM Kirsten: I thought your next statement was going to be something like "10 of us have decided in private to vote you...sorry"
11:23:38 PM Kirsten: so...Gretchen, eh?
11:23:40 PM Boris: yeah
11:24:03 PM Boris: ed pointed me to the team chat for the second episode team chat
11:24:37 PM Boris: i'm looking at her resoning for wanting to vote for roxy
11:24:43 PM Boris: it makes aboslutely no sense to me
11:24:47 PM Boris: absolutely
11:25:25 PM Kirsten: she wanted to vote her for informatoin
11:25:34 PM Boris: yes, but then she posted this wonderful gem
11:25:35 PM Boris: spies6gretchen (1:59:37 AM): we have only had one imprisonment, and one exile. unless i have missed something. assuming i haven't. if she flips cit, we look at the people who voted her and why. if she flips town, we do the same. and the great thing is, our team kept all those convos.
11:25:45 PM Boris: she then wants to see who voted for her
11:26:10 PM Boris: but if she wants people to vote for information, how will she then know what her reasoning is afterwards?
11:28:53 PM Kirsten: yeah
11:29:08 PM Kirsten: I don't know...
11:29:58 PM Kirsten: I will say this, I don't think she's a spy
11:30:06 PM Kirsten: even though her reasoning looks bad
11:32:36 PM Boris: ...wwwwhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?
11:33:11 PM Kirsten: I've chatted a lot with her.
11:33:47 PM Kirsten: my read is that she's a citizen...
11:34:21 PM Kirsten: but I can't really give much more than that. I will say, though, that her being the competing wagon to Jaya is worth looking at. It doesn't prove she is a citizen at all, but...
11:35:02 PM Boris: but you had the role investigation and investigated her and sam totally said "OMG SHE IS CIT!!!!!!"
11:35:19 PM Boris: he actually talks like that you know
11:36:00 PM Kirsten: haha
11:36:04 PM Kirsten: he talks in all caps?
11:36:08 PM Boris: yes
11:36:13 PM Boris: in real life
11:36:16 PM Boris: you can see the caps
11:36:17 PM Kirsten: and he uses abbreviated slang in everyday talk?
11:36:20 PM Boris: yes
11:36:37 PM Boris: absolutely yes
11:37:52 PM Kirsten: scary
11:38:33 PM Boris: it is
11:44:48 PM Boris: here's my problem with the mirela situation
11:44:57 PM Kirsten: ok
11:45:01 PM Boris: that i am just now discovering in other talks with people
11:45:23 PM Boris: it now seems that her discrepency is the soul reason for some people finding her suspicious
11:45:32 PM Boris: and is seeming like a really easy lynch
11:45:38 PM Boris: which is all too reminicent of yvette
11:46:05 PM Boris: which is a problem, because now i'm stuck in a circle again
11:46:13 PM Kirsten: I've flip-flopped on her a lot. She's said some suspicious things to me in chat. But I can't shake the feeling that she is a clueless cit.
11:46:45 PM Kirsten: but, from the suspicions others have posted of her in the burg
11:46:56 PM Kirsten: the only thing I agree with is the lie, and I'm not sold on that.