Exile 4: Thoughts

[Georgia]

*dies laughing at post exile "fighting"*

Agh.
Right now, I'm all for a Roxy exile. Oh yes.
Or, Levi, Mirela.

*dies laughing, again*

[Georgia]

spies6Tiberius (20:22:3): o my
spies6levi (20:22:8) has left the room.
spies6Tiberius (20:22:37) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (20:22:54) has left the room.

Separate chat room much?

[Georgia]

It is really weird. I added everyone on the playerlist into the three separate teams the very first day. Then I separated everyone into the two different teams. Yet every once in awhile, I see people in a group chat online, then I'm like huh.. doesn't say online on my AIM. Then I notice they aren't even ON there. ARgh.

[Georgia]

*still dying laughing at post exile "fighting"/"bashing"*

Awgh.

I'm curious as to what case Roxy has already "kind of made" against me.

[Georgia]

Advert at the top of the previous page.. " May we pray for you?"
NO, YOU MAY NOT. Thanks. xD

[Georgia]

Did Ariel suspect that Jaya would go at the Exile, and so sacrificed her to make herself look better?

[Georgia]

Currently in time, I think it would look like this...

9: Mirela
17: William
5: Thor
18: Oswald
4: Tiberius
10: Faith
7: Iris
19: Pete
11: Ellis
20: Ed
12: Khaled
13: Jason
14: Rey
22: Kirsten
15: Boris
3: Ariel
16: Amelia
1: Levi
21: Gretchen
6: Jenya
2: Donald
8: Roxy

[Georgia]

Conversation with Gretchen..

spies6gretchen (23:13:21): FUCK YOU
spies6gretchen (23:14:20): btw it was a roxy greeting
....
spies6gretchen (23:15:44): are you in a spy meeting atm?
spies6Georgia (23:15:59): No, no I'm not. Looks like they all went to bed.
spies6gretchen (23:16:10): bastards,
spies6gretchen (23:16:12): hey
spies6gretchen (23:16:23): you have read the imprisonment thingy yeah?
spies6gretchen (23:16:28): the new one
spies6gretchen (23:16:33): as in who left
spies6Georgia (23:16:39): I know huh. No, I haven't. That was today?
spies6gretchen (23:16:55): ohmygod how do i know this and you don't
spies6gretchen (23:17:14): ok i am done
spies6gretchen (23:17:22): what i was going to yell i didn't
spies6Georgia (23:17:26): Haha. Don't tell me, I'm reading it now.
spies6Georgia (23:18:32): Oh good grief Samuel.
spies6gretchen (23:18:42): lmao what?
spies6Georgia (23:18:53): click click click clikc
spies6Georgia (23:18:55): *click
spies6gretchen (23:19:26): ahahaha. my point exactly.
spies6Georgia (23:19:51): Huh. I totally thought Ariel would be gone by now.
spies6gretchen (23:20:7): found it yet?
spies6Georgia (23:20:13): Nope.
spies6gretchen (23:20:19): exactly
spies6gretchen (23:20:34): i will explain when i get back from eating my oreo. brb.
spies6Georgia (23:20:45): Okay.
spies6Georgia (23:22:4): Huh. Wouldn't of thought her to go.
spies6Georgia (23:23:47): Jailed? Hot dang.
spies6gretchen (23:25:26): when you posted ok is that when you found it?
spies6Georgia (23:25:41): No. Okay was saying Okay to your brb.
spies6gretchen (23:26:22): so it was the huh msg when you found it?
spies6Georgia (23:26:38): Indeed.
spies6gretchen (23:27:18): so it took you roughly around 3 minutes or so to find
spies6gretchen (23:27:24): give or take
spies6Georgia (23:28:16): By clicking, page loading, hitting the back button, page loading, scrolling down, clicking on the next. Wash and repeat.
spies6gretchen (23:28:40): exactly. and i was cursing sam the same as you just were. more colourful actually.
spies6gretchen (23:28:46): so. i have something to share.
spies6gretchen (23:28:53): if you would like to read it.
spies6Georgia (23:29:6): Ahaha. Sure.
spies6gretchen (23:29:31): grrrrrrrrr
spies6gretchen (23:29:34): hang on
spies6gretchen (23:29:57):
spies6gretchen (4:11:49 PM): hi there

spies6Ariel (4:12:00 PM): Hi Gretchen. I was actually just about to go to bed.

spies6gretchen (4:12:35 PM): ok well go. we can talk another time. congrats on still being here. i thought you were gone for sure. that's all i wanted to say really!

spies6Ariel (4:12:45 PM): ...Is imprisonment up?

spies6Ariel (4:12:47 PM): I've been reading.

spies6gretchen (4:12:54 PM): ahaha yes it is hun

spies6Ariel (4:12:59 PM): Oh!

spies6gretchen (4:13:21 PM): lol you wouldn't be able to still be reading if you were imprisoned i don't think

spies6Ariel (4:13:34 PM): No, I've been reading a book.
spies6gretchen (23:30:22):
spies6Ariel (4:13:34 PM):

spies6gretchen (4:13:36 PM): ..... unless you mean reading stuff not online!

spies6gretchen (4:13:38 PM): lmaooo

spies6gretchen (4:13:50 PM): yes you are safe

spies6gretchen (4:14:19 PM): if you're going to check. it took me 12 clicks.

spies6gretchen (4:14:21 PM): 12.

spies6Ariel (4:14:45 PM): Gabriela?!

spies6Ariel (4:15:11 PM): Awww.
spies6gretchen (23:31:33): no way you can do 9 or 12 or even 5 in a minute.
spies6gretchen (23:31:53): crap hang on
spies6gretchen (23:32:8):
spies6gretchen (4:15:25 PM): yes. how did you get it so quickly? i clicked. "safe". clicked. "safe". shit. etc.

spies6Ariel (4:15:30 PM): I didn't count my clicks, but it was a lot.

spies6Ariel (4:15:46 PM): It took me nine clicks or so.

spies6gretchen (4:15:58 PM): you click a lot faster than me. damn australian bband sucks.

spies6Ariel (4:16:10 PM): Haha.
spies6gretchen (23:32:14): that's better
spies6gretchen (23:32:27): it is impossible. she took a minute.
spies6Georgia (23:33:37): I was just trying to calculate that out. Or around two minutes, if she went there as she asked if it was up.
spies6Georgia (23:34:7): I suppose it could happen, if you just switched the name sin the url.
spies6Georgia (23:34:14): *names in
spies6gretchen (23:34:22): i just think it's odd. or she thought gabriela was the likely target.
spies6gretchen (23:34:36): something stikes me as odd.
spies6Georgia (23:34:59): Or she already knew, and pretended to look.
spies6gretchen (23:35:8): my thoughts exactly
spies6gretchen (23:35:22): and hadn't done her research and didn't know sam had posted them that way
spies6gretchen (23:35:38): cause shit who would go straight to gabriela??
spies6gretchen (23:35:40): no one
spies6Georgia (23:36:22): Nine clicks or so? So, she went in some type of order inside her head?
spies6Georgia (23:36:39): People she thought were likely citizens?
spies6gretchen (23:36:58): that's what i did. took me 12. in like 4 minutes.
spies6gretchen (23:37:4): she did it in one.
spies6Georgia (23:37:46): I did 16 clicks. I started with Iris. Then clicked my own name. Then clicked on Ariel's. Then continued with roxy, jenya, boris, etc.
spies6gretchen (23:38:33): yeah it's bs. something is sus. she was tired. i don't know still but it doesn't make sense to me.
spies6Georgia (23:39:55): It doesn'tmake sense to me why she is still alive. I guess, thinking about it. If she hadn't won that power - I think she would be a lurker. She still kind of is.
spies6Georgia (23:40:17): But she was catapulted into the spotlight with the power, much more so with not saving the spyalma.
spies6Georgia (23:40:22): Then being responsible for Jaya.
spies6gretchen (23:40:25): brb babe
spies6Georgia (23:40:35): Ooooh. I wonder if she suspected jaya would go, then decdied to sacrifice her.

[Georgia]

I think I will definitely be voting for Levi this Episode.
He is just shady shady shady.

It is like food poisoning. The food may taste fine, but hours later you find yourself vomiting violently.

[Georgia]

spies6levi (15:41:56): This Exile is about evidence more than behavior for me
spies6levi (15:42:0): Which is why I'm voting Yvette
spies6Georgia (15:45:36): Even though she isn't here to respond?
spies6levi (15:45:43): Yes
spies6levi (15:45:54): I don't like voting someone who can't defend themselves
spies6levi (15:46:2): But I don't agree with any of the other cases presented
spies6Georgia (15:46:35): Why don't you present your own case? Or just feel like being lazy?
spies6levi (15:47:17): Because the person I have the best case for is Yvette
spies6levi (15:47:29): I had seen certain things about her
spies6levi (15:47:34): And Jason posted before me
spies6levi (15:47:45): He brought up some things I had seen, and other things I hadn't
spies6levi (15:47:49): ANd I added to what he presented
spies6Georgia (15:47:54): So why not add your own points?
spies6levi (15:48:9): spies6levi (5:48:00 PM): ANd I added to what he presented
spies6Georgia (15:56:21): You added one thing?
spies6levi (15:56:36): That is correct
spies6levi (15:57:32): If I have one thing to add, I add that one thing
spies6levi (15:57:33): If I had two things to add, I would add two thigns
spies6levi (15:57:33): But I added one thing
spies6levi (15:57:34): Because I only had one thing

From a conversation I had with Levi a day or two ago.
First he says he hadn't agreed with any of the other cases that had been presented. Then he says he has the best case for Yvette. Which seems to be calling the case presented by Jason, his own.

From the same chat..
spies6Georgia (16:02:23): Wouldn'tb behavior of a person, be evidence?
spies6levi (16:02:42): There's a fine line between that
spies6levi (16:02:56): When I say "behavior," I mean a person's tendencies
spies6levi (16:03:12): What their personality is like, what their contribution level is like
spies6levi (16:03:24): When I say "evidence" I mean specific things that you can point out
spies6levi (16:03:43): Saying "That person will follow along with anything" is behavior
spies6levi (16:04:0): Saying "That person bandwagoned on this particular case, and I can prove it" is evidence
spies6Georgia (16:04:31): So having a tendency of bandwagoning, if you have evidence to prove it. Would be behavior?
spies6Georgia (16:05:3): What is proof of bandwagoning? Wouldn't just their tendency to vote for the popular candidates, be enough proof?
spies6levi (16:06:14): Yes
spies6levi (16:06:27): Proof of bandwagoning is being able to point out a specific post or a specific vote
spies6levi (16:06:42): Like "John voted for Jane but didn't weigh in on the case against Jane at all"
spies6levi (16:06:46): That's evidence
spies6levi (16:06:59): "I've noticed that John will go along with whatever the popular opinion is"
spies6levi (16:07:4): That's analyzing John's behavior
spies6levi (16:07:9): Like I said, its a fine line
spies6levi (16:07:18): But that's how I interpret those words when it comes to mafia

I wanted to know what his difference between behavior and evidence was, and why behavior couldn't be evidence.

[Georgia]

spies6Georgia (15:57:24): Why did you vote for Yvette?
spies6levi (15:57:45): From my point of view, she was the scummiest person in the game
spies6levi (15:58:6): She weas involved in teh fake case thing
spies6levi (15:58:15): Ariel trusted Yvette, and Ariel did not get imprisoned
spies6levi (15:58:22): And as I pointed out in the Feminazi thread
spies6levi (15:58:29): She shamelessly bandwagoned on the case against me
spies6Georgia (15:59:3): So it had nothing to do with her comments after Paris was exiled?
spies6levi (15:59:19): That too
spies6levi (15:59:24): Sorry, I forgot about that
spies6levi (15:59:32): I knew I was forgetting something, but all my reasons for voting her
spies6levi (15:59:37): Are in the Feminzai thread
spies6Georgia (16:00:37): Did it have anything to do with her involvement of lynching Jaya?
spies6levi (16:00:57): I wasn't personally involved with that issue
spies6levi (16:01:1): But that point was brought up
spies6levi (16:01:35): The only reason that I hesitated was because I heard someone say that she was responisble for Jaya, but I was told otherwise in the Feminazi thread
spies6Georgia (16:01:57): How would her involvement in lynching Jaya, be spy behavior?
spies6levi (16:02:32): Because, as was pointed out by someone in the Feminazi thread
spies6levi (16:02:38): She joined the case last minute
spies6Georgia (16:03:2): So this exile for you, is more behavior than evidence?
spies6Georgia (16:03:46): Or evidence instead of behavior?
spies6levi (16:04:11): Evidence than behavior
spies6levi (16:04:16): Sorry for the delay, carrying on other conversations
spies6Georgia (16:04:42): Okay. No problem.
spies6levi (16:05:1): So, why were you trying to trap me in my own words there?
spies6Georgia (16:05:12): you fell for it.
spies6Georgia (16:05:16): Not my fault.
spies6levi (16:05:41): How did I fall for it? I originally said evidence rather than behavior
spies6Georgia (16:07:3): If this exile is about evidence, instead of behavior - then why am I one of your top three. When what you've "got" against me, is all behavior issues. Part of the reasons you have Faith as a suspect are behavior reasons as well.
spies6levi (16:07:16): OH
spies6Georgia (16:07:19): So we should all expect you to vote for Donald this exile then huh, since he was the most "evidence" against him?
spies6levi (16:07:19): You said this exile
spies6levi (16:07:35): Because the question was worded exactly the same as from last round
spies6levi (16:07:42): And we were talking all about last round
spies6levi (16:07:54): I was led to believe that the question was referring to last round
spies6Georgia (16:07:56): I said "So this exile". As in this current exile.
spies6Georgia (16:08:9): If I was talking about a previous exile, I would've said.. "so last exile" etc.
spies6levi (16:08:11): But also every other comment you made was about last exile
spies6Georgia (16:10:17): First subject was about Yvette. I already knew you were using evidence, instead of behavior last exile. Why would I ask a question about something I already knew?
spies6levi (16:11:18): Becuase you were trying to create evidence against me
spies6Georgia (16:11:58): Trying to create evidence against you? Uh no. I was wanting answers to questions.
spies6Georgia (16:12:18): *waits for Levi to run off and make a post*
spies6levi (16:12:29): I'm not making any post
spies6levi (16:12:41): It seems like you're using very underhanded methods here
spies6levi (16:13:0): I know Im at fault here
spies6levi (16:13:10): I should have read the question more carefully
spies6levi (16:13:21): But now you are going to go and use my answer as evidence against me, aren't you?
spies6Georgia (16:13:34): Underhanded methods? How is asking a straight forward question, underhanded?
spies6levi (16:14:22): This is a gut feeling here, but it seemed like you were trying to use all the discussion about last exile to trick me on this question
spies6levi (16:14:35): After all, why on earth would you have to ask me why I voted Yvette?
spies6levi (16:14:55): I made my intentions quite clear in the Feminazi thread, where I stated my reasons for voting her
spies6Georgia (16:15:8): No. I only brought up yvette, because I just learned that a number of people used Yvette's part, or actually non-part involved with the Jaya lynch against her.
spies6Georgia (16:15:27): That apparently, she claimed a bunch of credit for it. When, she did not.

From today. I don't believe that he was confused. It was clearly in the present tense. When he said it was worded like our last conversation about the subject - that doesn't fly either. When we were talking about it then, it was in the present tense as well. So If I used similar words, then it would be present tense as well. Even though he said it last time.

Him thinking I was trying to use underhanded moves to trap him. Oh I was trying to trap him alright, but not underhanded. It was truth. I asked about the Yvette thing, because of a conversation which I had just had with Ellis. Where he figured out he was wrong on it. So I asked him, also to clarify his points on Yvette. Funnily enough, a new one is added.
Then I switched, and asked him what his method was for this exile. THIS being, THIS COMING EXILE on SUNDAY. If I was talking about the Yvette exile, I would've said 'for that exile...", or "for the yvette lynch". I clearly would've used past tense words. Rather than present tense.

I don't believe him for a second. He is only on my case, because he is trying to save his own ass.

[Georgia]

Message to Thor earlier..
Sorry, I got sidetracked with making dinner.

Okay, to finish the question.

You said Roxy was intending on voting for Jaya, but she voted for Me.
Yet you said int he Voting chart, it has her as voting for Jaya.

So Sam didn't see her vote, even though he rechecked them?

When her + vote for me came up, she said ..


Sorin the Seeker (20:26:27): +Georgia, by Roxy
spies6levi (20:26:30): 1 Georgia
Sorin the Seeker (20:26:36): -Georgia, by Donald.
spies6Jenya (20:26:39): Nice math there Levi\
spies6Ariel (20:26:40): Another goose egg.
spies6levi (20:26:40): 0 Votes
Sorin the Seeker (20:26:41): -Gerogia, by Jaya.
spies6mirela (20:26:42): what the hell
spies6Ariel (20:26:43): -1.
Sorin the Seeker (20:26:45): -1 for Georgia.
spies6levi (20:26:49): -1 Georgia
Sorin the Seeker (20:26:55): -Thor by Pete
spies6Boris (20:26:57): i am here, but not here
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:0): -Thor by Roxy
spies6levi (20:27:5): -1 Georgia -2 Thor
spies6Ariel (20:27:6): -1 for Georgia, -2 for Thor.
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:6): -Kirsten by Georgia
spies6thor (20:27:9): hahaha
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:12): -Kirsten by Gretchen
spies6mirela (20:27:13): how undescisive
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:17): -2 for Kirsten and Georgia
spies6william (20:27:18): negative thor, the temperature at which thought freezes
spies6levi (20:27:19): -1 Georgia -2 Kristen -2 Thor
spies6william (20:27:20): P
spies6donald (20:27:34): lol Will
spies6Roxy (20:27:35): um
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:37): in the lead, tied for 0 votes are tons of people. ANYONED COULD BE EXILED!
spies6Tiberius (20:27:43): D=
spies6Roxy (20:27:45): i changed my vote but whatever.
spies6MeiYun (20:27:47): *rollseyes*
spies6donald (20:27:50): Oh NOES!!
spies6jaya (20:27:50): ack
spies6Tiberius (20:27:51): i'm up for exile
spies6iris (20:27:51): LOL
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:51): -Pete by Yvette.
spies6levi (20:27:52): GASP
spies6william (20:27:55): an only-negative vote round would be very interesting
spies6levi (20:27:56): -1 Georgia -2 Kirsten -2 Thor -1 Pete
Sorin the Seeker (20:27:59): +Pete by Rey
spies6mirela (20:28:2): eek
spies6Roxy (20:28:5): sam
Sorin the Seeker (20:28:7): -Pete by Ariel.
spies6Roxy (20:28:9): look at my vote again
spies6Roxy (20:28:11): if you want
spies6Roxy (20:28:13):
Sorin the Seeker (20:28:13): -1 for Pete.
spies6levi (20:28:17): Gah, I give up
Sorin the Seeker (20:28:19): alright I will check it apologies if I messed it up.
spies6donald (20:28:22): When did you change your vote, Roxy?
spies6Roxy (20:28:24): its ok
spies6Roxy (20:28:28): a while ago
spies6levi (20:28:30): -1 Georgia -2 Kirsten -2 Thor -1 Pete
spies6Roxy (20:28:30): the - part


She says she changed the negative part, not the positive part. It didn't seem like she was saying that she had changed her positive vote for me, or that it was wrong. So how did she end up voting for Jaya; even though it says and she didn't disagree with the posted vote for me? Or, why did she not vote for Jaya, when apparently she said she was going to already?
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To Levi a few minutes ago... (I was going to post it ont he exile four discussion thread, but figured it wasn't really the right place. Though it is, but I'm not wanting to continue the bickering.) Which on that note, as much as some people are saying that I'm being antagonistic and unhelpful because of the drama, they sure do keep on adding fuel to the fire. Hypocrites MUCH?!?!

Drama only helps Spies. She has a habit of both flinging insults and not giving straightforward answers to questions...She has not been helpful in pretty much anything

So, are you going to vote for yourself this exile, Levi?

Levi adding fuel to the fire: check
Levi flinging insults: check
Levi not giving straight forward answers to questions: check
Levi not helping in any way: check

[Georgia]

Ellis: Alamathea - Paris - Yvette
Jason: Almathea - Paris - Yvette
Pete: Almathea - Jaya - Yvette
Tiberius: Almathea - Jaya - Yvette

Iris: Callahan - Paris - Yvette
Mirela: Callahan - Paris - Yvette


Interesting isn't it?

[Georgia]

spies6ellis (15:10:30): It's interesting to see who's willing to post their stuff there
spies6Georgia (15:11:1): Haha. As well as who isn't.
spies6ellis (15:11:8): <---- didn't
spies6ellis (15:11:19): prefer to deal with people I think are citizens directly
spies6Georgia (15:12:23): I think it is more beneficial to post your ideas and thoughts on others, than it is to not. Then later down to road, it is easier to establish connections between possible spies and what not. Since chat logs are guaranteed to be around, and people can't get into individuals confessionals.
spies6ellis (15:12:38): well think of it this way
spies6ellis (15:12:44): I don't think anyone posted much against Alma in the burg
spies6ellis (15:12:47): she was exiled and a spy
spies6ellis (15:12:50): Same with Jaya, exiled, spy
spies6ellis (15:12:58): Then look at how much was posted against Yvette, also exiled.
spies6ellis (15:13:15): Partly by me, btw.
spies6Georgia (15:13:22): That is a good point.
spies6Georgia (15:13:30): I hadn't noticed that.
spies6ellis (15:13:39): My point being, the burg isn't so successful right about now
spies6ellis (15:13:46): but I do like that it shows where people stand
spies6Georgia (15:14:17): It makes it harder for people to quickly switch their ideas if they want to be sneaky sneaky.
spies6Georgia (15:14:30): Then again, it is also easier for the sneaky sneaky ones to bandwagon.
spies6ellis (15:15:8): well I've bandwagonned three times now
spies6ellis (15:15:12): and caught two scum
spies6ellis (15:15:31): but I do wish I could do more to out the spies instead of being told what to do all the time
spies6Georgia (15:15:40): I haven't bandwagoned, and haven't exiled anyone either.
spies6Georgia (15:16:9): Why don't you do more?
spies6ellis (15:16:23): lack of confidence I guess
spies6ellis (15:16:36): PAris and Almathea were easy
spies6ellis (15:16:47): by the time we exiled them I was pretty sure both were spies (well, scum as it turned out)
spies6ellis (15:16:57): There isn't anyone else that I can say that about right now
spies6ellis (15:17:17): Yvette was the first time I voted someone who I thought might be a strong citizen.
spies6Georgia (15:18:3): I had no idea about either of them. That is the one thing I wasn't so fond of in terms of separate groups. I focused on the group I was in at the moment in time, and pretty much ignored the outside stuff. Why did you vote for her then?
spies6ellis (15:18:19): Because of things Jason told me mostly
spies6ellis (15:18:28): and Jason was a major ringleader in Alma's exile
spies6Georgia (15:18:28): Ahh.
spies6ellis (15:18:37): even though I didn't necessarily agree on all his points on Yvette, he had a case
spies6ellis (15:18:42): and he'd been right once.
spies6Georgia (15:20:12): I think that is where you'd probably get yourself into trouble. I think agreeing with others is all find and dandy, but at the end of the day it is you whom will be held responsible for your vote. So to just basically trust someone else with it, not being fully confident about it - is not good news.
spies6ellis (15:20:36): that's where strategy comes in
spies6ellis (15:20:52): with Alma's exile we settled on a target early, between people who agreed and I think were all citizens
spies6ellis (15:21:1): Paris and Jaya were the only dissenters, and look what they were
spies6ellis (15:21:14): Basically we had a huge citizen group to counteract the smaller spies group
spies6ellis (15:21:22): and we were lucky enough to trust the right people early on
spies6ellis (15:21:35): Same thing with Paris, although I think there may have been spies on that bandwagon, and Jaya.
spies6ellis (15:21:40): With Yvette...
spies6ellis (15:21:44): total confusion from the start.
spies6ellis (15:21:47): Citizens going every which way
spies6ellis (15:21:54): leaving it open for the spies to be the only proper group.
spies6ellis (15:22:1): Result: a strong citizen gets exiled.
spies6ellis (15:22:11): We needed leadership, and nobody stepped up.
spies6Georgia (15:22:16): Ahh, I see what you are saying.
spies6Georgia (15:22:45): One sec, phone ringing.
spies6ellis (15:22:48): ok
spies6Georgia (15:27:10): OKay.
spies6Georgia (15:27:21): So you think leadership is important to have?
spies6ellis (15:28:26): definitely
spies6ellis (15:28:38): or at least some sort of citizen concensus between people who trust each other
spies6ellis (15:28:45): if you can't agree with people you trust, nothing will get done
spies6Georgia (15:29:21): Ah. But how do you know you can trust other people? Just because you trust them, doesn't mean they are omnipotent, and know more about another's role than you.
spies6ellis (15:29:39): no, but you can get together
spies6ellis (15:29:41): discuss suspicions
spies6ellis (15:29:44): work with each other
spies6ellis (15:29:56): something's bound to come of it, it did with Alma and Paris and Jaya
spies6Georgia (15:31:24): ah okay. I see that. An idea of leadership can differ between people. Some people think that if there is a clear leader, then they should be followed almost no matter what. I'm still unclear on what happened with Jaya.
spies6ellis (15:31:34): Me too, I wasn't in that team
spies6Georgia (15:31:37): What little I've heard, it seemed like it was a last minute decision.
spies6ellis (15:31:48): Ariel seemed to have led it herself though
spies6ellis (15:31:52): Everyone seems to agree on that
spies6ellis (15:32:4): Yvette claimed to be in the background (and unfortunately nobody believed her)
spies6Georgia (15:32:27): I know I at least, as well as Kirsten have voiced that we would like to know what happened there. Since I believe Thor only posted a little about it I think.
spies6Georgia (15:34:24): That doesn't make sense. So Yvette was lynched because she was believed to be the one whom led the Jaya thing? Or that she wasn't involved at all?
spies6ellis (15:34:35): No, I think people thought she'd lied about it
spies6ellis (15:34:46): well I know people thought that, they told me so, which is partly why I voted for her myself
spies6Georgia (15:34:51): Oh. I didn't.
spies6Georgia (15:35:2): She even stated in the exile live chat, that she had just switched her vote.
spies6ellis (15:35:22): People - Jason being one of them - suggested that she'd switched last minute and then made a big deal in the exile chat of her own part in the exile
spies6Georgia (15:35:23): She even said Ariel led it, that it wasn't her.
spies6ellis (15:35:26): when in fact she was covering her ass
spies6ellis (15:35:35): ok re-read that exile chat
spies6ellis (15:35:53): because I remember her being pretty outspoken about that (as she was about everything)
spies6Georgia (15:36:7): Outspoken about what? Not being involved?
spies6ellis (15:41:3): wait let me get a quote
spies6ellis (15:42:6): No, you're right, I'm wrong
spies6ellis (15:42:10): she gave Ariel full credit.
spies6ellis (15:42:18): damn, what else have I gotten wrong?
spies6Georgia (15:43:7): I remember her saying that, and that she was glad she had finally gotten one right.
spies6Georgia (15:43:11): I don't know.
spies6Georgia (15:43:41): Did Jason and the other commentors not review the chat? Or did they just focus on the part after Paris was exiled? At least, that is what it looked like from the Burg.

o.O Say what? Which adds him to the follower list.

[Georgia]

REMINDER: Bold or color the important parts.

[Georgia]

New version..

7: Mirela
6: William
2: Thor
18: Oswald
3: Tiberius
14: Faith
13: Iris
15: Pete
4: Ellis
16: Ed
17: Khaled
8: Jason
9: Rey
22: Kirsten
19: Boris
10: Ariel
11: Amelia
1: Levi
21: Gretchen
5: Jenya
20: Donald
12: Roxy

[Georgia]

New. Number to the right is the difference in position from my first list.

7: Mirela. +2
6: William +11
2: Thor +3
18: Oswald x
3: Tiberius +1
14: Faith -4
13: Iris -6
15: Pete +4
4: Ellis +7
16: Ed +4
17: Khaled -5
8: Jason +5
9: Rey +5
22: Kirsten x
19: Boris -4
10: Ariel -7
11: Amelia +5
1: Levi x
21: Gretchen x
5: Jenya +1
20: Donald -18
12: Roxy -4

[Ariel]

I remember that conversation with Gretchen, but I never realized you guys were suspecting me because of it. I really did just get lucky. Ariel? No. Kirsten? No. Gabriela? DANG!

[Kirsten]

Aug 13, 2009 21:33:18 GMT -5 Ariel said:

I remember that conversation with Gretchen, but I never realized you guys were suspecting me because of it. I really did just get lucky. Ariel? No. Kirsten? No. Gabriela? DANG!

Oh yeah, I suspected the crap out of you for that. I thought there was no way you were telling the truth when you said you hadn't seem imprisonment 4 hours after the fact, yet immediately replied when Gretchen IMed you (suggesting that you were active at your computer).

[Ariel]

That was also luck - my mom had had the computer and I had just gotten on it myself when I got Gretchen's IM.

[Rey]

I got Gabriela in my third click and Kirsten suspected me.

[Kirsten]

Aug 14, 2009 11:40:30 GMT -5 Rey said:

I got Gabriela in my third click and Kirsten suspected me.

I actually didn't really suspect you over that. I asked you that question for the purpose of gauging how long it took other people so I could suspect Ariel some more.

[Ellis]

I wrote a huge bunch of conversations / confessionals on the subject of Donald after we'd exiled him, but unfortunately I didn't post it until episode five.

How 'bout it Sam... mind putting the "How Donald was Exiled" thread in this episode? Everything in it's from the night Donald was exiled, it was just posted much later on.

That was an epic exile for me personally... I went through every single thing posted or spoken to me by Iris (couldn't get a definite read), Faith (ditto), Ed (marked him a citizen) and Amelia (no read). Took me over two hours before I finally got to Donald and (for the first time in the game btw) marked him as a spy myself, which was about half an hour before exile. From that point on it was a mad dash to try and get votes as quickly as I possibly could. On the whole, even though I didn't buy into Kirsten's Donald case at all, I think she had it easier.

[sluticia]

Back on topic here, Georgia is a fabulous independent player.

[Ed]

Jun 5, 2009 21:49:42 GMT -5 Georgia said:

Ellis: Alamathea - Paris - Yvette
Jason: Almathea - Paris - Yvette
Pete: Almathea - Jaya - Yvette
Tiberius: Almathea - Jaya - Yvette

Iris: Callahan - Paris - Yvette
Mirela: Callahan - Paris - Yvette


Interesting isn't it?

Very interesting. Too bad Pete/Jason never became legitimate suspects until it was too late.