Episode 3 - Chats

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:44:59 PM): hi, girl!
spies6Kirsten (8:45:02 PM): how are you?
spies6MeiYun (8:45:04 PM): hey kirsten!
spies6MeiYun (8:45:12 PM): im good i hope i dont dissapear
spies6Kirsten (8:45:20 PM): I hope you don't disappear either
spies6Kirsten (8:45:25 PM): that would be a nice magic trick
spies6MeiYun (8:45:38 PM): h god like talk to my rounter pls kay tnx
spies6Kirsten (8:45:54 PM): do you think me talking to it is going to help it?
spies6Kirsten (8:45:59 PM): I do have a soothing voice, but still
spies6MeiYun (8:46:58 PM): ergh like i was like kidding but its really annoying to be cut off wifi
spies6MeiYun (8:47:00 PM):
spies6Kirsten (8:47:06 PM): yes, I know
spies6Kirsten (8:47:11 PM): it kept happening to me episode 1!
spies6Kirsten (8:47:26 PM): I thought I was going to get exiled because I couldn't stay online to defend myself
spies6Kirsten (8:47:28 PM): so frustrating!
spies6Kirsten (8:51:06 PM): so who are you suspicious of?
spies6MeiYun (8:51:25 PM): im getting to the bottom of that as we speak
spies6MeiYun (8:51:37 PM): ask me again tomorrow or some other time
spies6Kirsten (8:51:57 PM): I won't be on tomorrow, at least until late
spies6MeiYun (8:58:50 PM): well i will be on around until exile
spies6MeiYun (9:04:19 PM): im actually doubting myself with levi now
spies6Kirsten (9:05:06 PM): how so?
spies6MeiYun (9:05:58 PM): rey told me his suspicions/info and when i asked levi for an opinion he had the same opinion/pice of info
spies6Kirsten (9:06:27 PM): do you think they are spies together?
spies6Kirsten (9:06:33 PM): or do you think levi was just copying him or what?
spies6MeiYun (9:08:21 PM): i dont know but if levi cannot think for himself that is not good because then hes just shielding himself from leading exiles by just finding wagons to ride on
spies6MeiYun (9:08:24 PM): just like you said
spies6MeiYun (9:08:33 PM): so thats what im investigating right now
spies6Kirsten (9:09:38 PM): alright
spies6MeiYun (9:11:24 PM): i know for a fact levi is a wise player
spies6MeiYun (9:11:41 PM): but if when it comes to cases that he chooses just to follow them, then we might have a problem
spies6MeiYun (9:11:51 PM): i will be on it ill keep you posted dont tell anyone
spies6Kirsten (9:12:03 PM): hehe, ok
spies6Kirsten (9:12:06 PM): yeah, let me know what you find
spies6Kirsten (9:15:40 PM): did he vote paris last episode?

[Kirsten]

spies6Jenya (9:08:30 AM):[Offline IM sent 2d and 11h ago] Hi Kirsten.
spies6Kirsten (8:47:03 PM): hi
spies6Kirsten (8:47:20 PM): just responding to your offline IM sent 2 days 11 hours ago
spies6Kirsten (8:47:29 PM): i'm a little slow
spies6Jenya (9:31:50 PM): Hi Kirsten, are you there?
spies6Kirsten (9:31:57 PM): negative
spies6Jenya (9:32:08 PM): If you have time to talk, let me know.
spies6Kirsten (9:32:13 PM): I do have time to talk
spies6Kirsten (9:32:16 PM):
spies6Jenya (9:32:29 PM): Cool, I don't think we've really had the chance.
spies6Jenya (9:32:37 PM): Are you hot on the trail of spies tonight?
spies6Kirsten (9:32:38 PM): not to my recollection
spies6Kirsten (9:32:44 PM): I'm not hot on the trail of anything
spies6Jenya (9:33:06 PM): Hmm, that's terribly spyish of you.
spies6Kirsten (9:33:10 PM): yes
spies6Jenya (9:33:22 PM): Have you been enjoying the game thus far?
spies6Kirsten (9:33:27 PM): I can't be scumhunting 100% of the time
spies6Kirsten (9:33:39 PM): hmm...yes, for the most part
spies6Kirsten (9:33:47 PM): I would be enjoying it more if I could put more time into it
spies6Kirsten (9:34:07 PM): I'm one of those people who cannot stand to lose and will devote anything necessary to win
spies6Jenya (9:34:07 PM): Are you pretty time-limited this month?
spies6Kirsten (9:34:16 PM): yeah, I am
spies6Kirsten (9:34:30 PM): I work full time and my hours really suck
spies6Kirsten (9:34:51 PM): and lately I've had friends over and birthday parties and what not on days that I'm not working
spies6Kirsten (9:35:04 PM): so my time for spies is much less than what I would like
spies6Jenya (9:35:06 PM): Game's been fun.
spies6Jenya (9:35:12 PM): At least for the cits.
spies6Kirsten (9:35:19 PM): hehe, definitely.
spies6Jenya (9:35:58 PM): I enjoyed reading a few of your posts.. looks like you think when you have the time.
spies6Kirsten (9:35:59 PM): I think it should be fairly straightforward from here on out. There are a lot of people who are almost nearly confirmed or practically fully confirmed citizens
spies6Jenya (9:36:07 PM): Oh? Who's confirmed?
spies6Kirsten (9:36:31 PM): the players who were instrumental in the spy lynches
spies6Jenya (9:36:34 PM): Like?
spies6Kirsten (9:36:50 PM): I'd argue rey, tiberius, ariel, even I'd suggest Yvette is very likely citizen
spies6Jenya (9:37:00 PM): Hmm.
spies6Kirsten (9:37:05 PM): do you disagree?
spies6Jenya (9:37:07 PM): Not sure I agree.
spies6Kirsten (9:37:10 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (9:37:12 PM): why not?
spies6Jenya (9:37:16 PM): Yvette, especially.
spies6Kirsten (9:37:25 PM): that's what I would have guessed
spies6Jenya (9:37:33 PM): She led a bad exile
spies6Kirsten (9:37:41 PM): true
spies6Jenya (9:37:42 PM): Could have easily been scum busing Jaya
spies6Jenya (9:37:52 PM): Took Robert out of the game with a silly plan
spies6Kirsten (9:38:03 PM): hm...maybe, although I'll have to talk to those who voted jaya
spies6Kirsten (9:38:15 PM): The jaya exile was a surprise, at least to me.
spies6Jenya (9:38:22 PM): She was never a very good spy
spies6Kirsten (9:38:24 PM): I want to learn the details of that
spies6Jenya (9:38:31 PM): We were suspicious of her on day one but Alma was worse
spies6Kirsten (9:38:44 PM): she was someone who looked extremely new
spies6Jenya (9:38:45 PM): Then, Jaya never looked good and Ariel and Yvette went for her
spies6Jenya (9:38:57 PM): Tibby and Pete picked her at the last minute
spies6Jenya (9:39:00 PM): To be honest
spies6Kirsten (9:39:08 PM): when did Ariel/Yvette swap?
spies6Jenya (9:39:08 PM): Yvette might have thought Jaya was safe
spies6Kirsten (9:39:21 PM): I talked to both the previous night and neither were going to vote Jaya
spies6Jenya (9:39:27 PM): It was looking like 5-3 Gretchen
spies6Jenya (9:39:30 PM): In the afternoon
spies6Jenya (9:39:35 PM): So maybe jaya was the safe vote
spies6Kirsten (9:39:37 PM): Thor also mentioned in the exile thread he was going to vote someone else, but I guess he swapped as well
spies6Jenya (9:39:41 PM): Right
spies6Jenya (9:39:54 PM): Minor points for them for that exile
spies6Kirsten (9:40:13 PM): I give townie points to everyone on that exile
spies6Jenya (9:40:13 PM): I also was shown something today that didn't look too good for Yvette.
spies6Kirsten (9:40:18 PM): especially with how close it was
spies6Jenya (9:40:29 PM): Got five minutes to see what I was shown?
spies6Kirsten (9:40:33 PM): certainly
spies6Jenya (9:40:49 PM): spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=deport9366&action=display&thread=849
spies6Jenya (9:40:55 PM): Search for "more later"
spies6Kirsten (9:41:28 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (9:41:32 PM): why is that suspicious?
spies6Jenya (9:41:44 PM): That's the start of the interesting part.
spies6Jenya (9:42:04 PM): Ok so think of that exile from the perspective of a Cit
spies6Jenya (9:42:20 PM): Sam announces Paris is "Not a Cit"
spies6Jenya (9:42:23 PM): What do you do?
spies6Kirsten (9:42:27 PM): assume he's a spy
spies6Jenya (9:42:29 PM): right
spies6Jenya (9:42:31 PM): cheer
spies6Jenya (9:42:33 PM): celebrate
spies6Kirsten (9:42:35 PM): yeah
spies6Jenya (9:42:42 PM): Spies knew Paris was what?
spies6Jenya (9:42:47 PM): A cit.
spies6Kirsten (9:42:49 PM): yeah
spies6Jenya (9:43:00 PM): So look what happens when Sam says "not a cit"
spies6Jenya (9:43:23 PM): some celebrate, some are totally shocked and confused
spies6Kirsten (9:43:28 PM): she mentions "he was not a spy?"
spies6Jenya (9:43:34 PM): Yvette: WHA?
spies6Jenya (9:43:40 PM): Yvette: A super cit?
spies6Jenya (9:43:50 PM): It's a brilliant find, actually.
spies6Jenya (9:44:00 PM): Major cit points to the person who found this
spies6Kirsten (9:44:17 PM): I think it's somewhat coincidental
spies6Kirsten (9:45:01 PM): I ask myself: Why would a spy say something like that and reveal inside knowledge when they could have easily just shut up?
spies6Jenya (9:45:16 PM): Because they were shocked?
spies6Jenya (9:45:25 PM): You truly don't see it?
spies6Kirsten (9:45:33 PM): I see it
spies6Kirsten (9:45:43 PM): I understand the point, I just don't think it's conclusive
spies6Jenya (9:45:45 PM): In the 30 seconds before
spies6Jenya (9:45:55 PM): Yvette was certain he was going to come up Spy
spies6Jenya (9:46:24 PM): spies6Yvette (10:40:46 PM): That means he is a spy!
spies6Yvette (10:40:50 PM): He always says more later to the spies!
spies6Jenya (9:46:51 PM): So why is she confused when he announces it
spies6Jenya (9:47:00 PM): spies6Yvette (10:41:23 PM): WHA.
spies6Jenya (9:47:07 PM): spies6Yvette (10:41:32 PM): But a super citizen?
spies6Kirsten (9:47:24 PM): ok, but if Yvette was a spy then why would she be certain Paris was a spy?
spies6Kirsten (9:47:28 PM): and then waffle on it?
spies6Jenya (9:47:29 PM): She was faking
spies6Jenya (9:47:37 PM): She was a spy pretending, Kirsten
spies6Jenya (9:47:52 PM): What's a super citizen?
spies6Kirsten (9:47:53 PM): SPY'S DON'T PRETEND. THEY ALWAYS ACT OBVIOUSLY LIKE SPIES
spies6Kirsten (9:48:13 PM): I have no idea what she meant by that
spies6Jenya (9:48:20 PM): So when Sam says not a cit
spies6Jenya (9:48:26 PM): and everyone else assumes that means spy
spies6Jenya (9:48:33 PM): spies6oswald (10:41:29 PM): 2 SPIES
spies6Jenya (9:48:44 PM): And only the Spies know that Paris is NOT a spy
spies6Jenya (9:49:01 PM): That's a pretty good place to look for evidence of people who KNOW he's not a spy and are confused
spies6Jenya (9:49:08 PM): I'll leave it at that. Have a good night.
spies6Kirsten (9:49:29 PM): are you leaving?
spies6Jenya (9:51:35 PM): Yeah a guest just arrived.
spies6Jenya (9:51:43 PM): Sorry to run but I'll be back in a bit.
spies6Kirsten (9:51:49 PM): alright. Have fun.
spies6Jenya (9:51:53 PM): Have a good evening! Nice talking with you.
spies6Kirsten (9:51:58 PM): yep, same to you

[Kirsten]

spies6Jenya (2:14:02 PM): Hi Kirsten, are you there?
spies6Kirsten (2:14:22 PM): yep, briefly
spies6Kirsten (2:14:37 PM): well, maybe 30 minues to an hour, not sure
spies6Jenya (2:14:41 PM): Sorry we got cut off last night. Hopefully we can talk more when you have time.
spies6Jenya (2:15:45 PM): I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on your original group.. there are probably 2-3 spies still in that bunch.
spies6Kirsten (2:15:59 PM): I would agree
spies6Kirsten (2:16:19 PM): Let's see. I think Roxy is a citizen, as well as Georgia.
spies6Kirsten (2:17:07 PM): Levi, I wouldn't be surprised to see him as a spy
spies6Jenya (2:17:23 PM): You think the spies killed off Paris to save Levi maybe?
spies6Kirsten (2:17:38 PM): I don't know
spies6Kirsten (2:17:45 PM): I think the spies killed off Paris because it was easy
spies6Jenya (2:18:09 PM): That too.
spies6Kirsten (2:18:14 PM): That was a huge gang up. Citizens wanted him dead because they thought he was a spy. Spies were all to happy to oblige because they thought he was a citizen
spies6Jenya (2:18:50 PM): So Roxy's a cit and georgia too. How about Donald and William?
spies6Kirsten (2:19:07 PM): Donald I was originally very suspicious of, but the more I've spoken with him the less suspiciuos of him I am
spies6Kirsten (2:19:34 PM): He's kind of "behind the scenes" but he at least keeps a level head and is willing to alter his opinion readily based on new information surfacing
spies6Kirsten (2:19:41 PM): at this point, I'm not terribly suspicious
spies6Jenya (2:19:57 PM): I think I agree, though I haven't talked with him enough to know for sure.
spies6Kirsten (2:20:00 PM): William I think has a decent shot of being a spy. He's very lurky, and doesn't commit to solid stances.
spies6Kirsten (2:20:37 PM): He's nice, and reasonable, but neither of those are really ctiizen tells
spies6Jenya (2:21:00 PM): Has he contributed anything to spyhunting? Who are his suspects?
spies6Kirsten (2:21:23 PM): He voted Donald? I believe the first week. I'm not entirely sure on that. He voted Gretchen last exile
spies6Kirsten (2:21:34 PM): He has contributed practically nothign to spy hunting
spies6Jenya (2:21:50 PM): Yuck.
spies6Kirsten (2:21:52 PM): actually
spies6Kirsten (2:21:54 PM): I will say this
spies6Kirsten (2:22:01 PM): Jaya listed him as a suspect
spies6Kirsten (2:22:06 PM): but gave no reason whatsoever
spies6Kirsten (2:22:09 PM): and that is bothering the hell out of me
spies6Kirsten (2:22:37 PM): because when she listed him as a suspect, it was in our team chat thread, nobody in that chat had discussed him at all prior to that point
spies6Kirsten (2:23:07 PM): and I'm wondernig why she would even think of him enough to place him down as a suspect.
spies6Jenya (2:23:10 PM): Perhaps lame distancing?
spies6Jenya (2:23:15 PM): From a scumpartner.
spies6Kirsten (2:23:31 PM): yeah, that was kind of my thought, but it's really hard to figure out if that's really what it was.
spies6Jenya (2:24:08 PM): So possibly William and Levi as spies.
spies6Jenya (2:24:14 PM): Anyone else besides yourself?
spies6Kirsten (2:24:22 PM): Oswald. I had him as a citizen week 1
spies6Kirsten (2:24:34 PM): I'm more skeptical now, because I think he's a lot smarter than he originally came off as
spies6Kirsten (2:25:17 PM): he looked a lot like a new player who was over their head and angry at being called a lurker because he was trying hard.
spies6Jenya (2:25:21 PM): Yeah.
spies6Jenya (2:25:25 PM): But he's savvy.
spies6Kirsten (2:25:30 PM): at this point, though, he seems a lot smarter than that.
spies6Kirsten (2:25:31 PM): eah
spies6Kirsten (2:25:55 PM): I don't have any reason to think he's a spy, persay, but I'm wary of that
spies6Kirsten (2:26:07 PM): Boris - I think has a good shot of being a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:26:47 PM): Came in the last day and voted Roxy episode 1. I have not been able to talk to him and get those reasons from him yet, but I find that suspect. Voted Paris last episode, and I didn't see much of anything from him again.
spies6Jenya (2:26:56 PM): Boris is very clever.
spies6Kirsten (2:27:12 PM): of no doubt
spies6Jenya (2:27:47 PM): I think you're probably right about Roxy. Not sure about Georgia.
spies6Kirsten (2:27:50 PM): Amelia - no real read. Voted me the first exile, but had never spoken to me or much with anyone on our team. I don't know what she did last episode.
spies6Jenya (2:28:03 PM): Amelia could be a slick spy.
spies6Kirsten (2:28:38 PM): Mei Yun - Neutral. I really can't read her very well. I will say that if she is a spy, episode 1 voting records are going to be really good evidence.
spies6Jenya (2:29:18 PM): Why's that?
spies6Kirsten (2:29:47 PM): Roxy got 4 votes. She got 3 votes.
spies6Jenya (2:30:16 PM): True.
spies6Kirsten (2:30:25 PM): so, if she's a spy, those Roxy voters look a lot more suspect
spies6Jenya (2:30:33 PM): And so do the people who voted alternatives
spies6Kirsten (2:30:50 PM): like me!
spies6Jenya (2:30:53 PM): So basically, anyone but the Mei Yun voters
spies6Kirsten (2:30:54 PM): voting levi
spies6Jenya (2:31:04 PM): The case on Levi was decent at the time
spies6Kirsten (2:31:19 PM): I think the Roxy voters look worse, simply because they pushed her ahead of Mei Yun, but I could see spies on the sidelines as well.
spies6Jenya (2:31:33 PM): Afraid to vote the Cit
spies6Jenya (2:31:37 PM): Afraid to vote their partner
spies6Kirsten (2:32:33 PM): perhaps
spies6Kirsten (2:32:45 PM): I think Boris/Levi would look the most suspect if Mei is a spy.
spies6Kirsten (2:33:05 PM): Levi because he had 4 suspects but settled on Roxy toward the end. Boris because he came in last minute and just voted for Roxy.
spies6Jenya (2:34:17 PM): Do you find anyone from my original group suspicious?
spies6Kirsten (2:34:29 PM): you original group was team callahan?
spies6Jenya (2:34:30 PM): Jason, Rey, Gabriela, Pete, Ellis and myself.
spies6Kirsten (2:34:36 PM): no, team almathea
spies6Kirsten (2:34:37 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (2:35:09 PM): two spies from your team were caught.
spies6Jenya (2:35:19 PM): Right.
spies6Jenya (2:35:21 PM): 2 1/2
spies6Kirsten (2:35:34 PM): everyone alive right now from your team was on the almathea wagon, correct?
spies6Jenya (2:35:59 PM): Yes.
spies6Kirsten (2:36:05 PM): then, no.
spies6Jenya (2:36:22 PM): The other three were on Jaya and Jocelyn and were spies
spies6Kirsten (2:36:36 PM): I haven't spoken much with your team, but I think it's most likely that the rest are citizens.
spies6Kirsten (2:37:02 PM): Unless one spy decided to bus while Jaya tried to save Alma
spies6Kirsten (2:37:55 PM): did your team originally only have 10 players, or was a different team?
spies6Jenya (2:38:33 PM): We had 11.
spies6Kirsten (2:39:13 PM): is someone missing from your list?
spies6Jenya (2:39:26 PM): Jocelyn
spies6Kirsten (2:39:32 PM): I count 6, and 3 have been exiled 1 got removed
spies6Jenya (2:39:36 PM): Tiberius
spies6Kirsten (2:39:38 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (2:40:37 PM): yeah, I'm not terribly suspicious of any of those players
spies6Kirsten (2:41:18 PM): I think our best bet is focusing on my team or team Yvette
spies6Jenya (2:41:32 PM): Yeah, pick the scummiest.
spies6Jenya (2:41:37 PM): You said Iris?
spies6Jenya (2:41:44 PM): From Yvette's team?
spies6Kirsten (2:41:50 PM): no?
spies6Jenya (2:42:07 PM): Who do you think their scum are?
spies6Kirsten (2:42:29 PM): I'm suspicious of faith
spies6Jenya (2:42:34 PM): Ah, yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:42:38 PM): Haven't spoken with her at all, but I'm suspicious of her.
spies6Jenya (2:42:41 PM): That's who I voted for.
spies6Kirsten (2:43:11 PM): I think she looks the most suspicious from the committee to save robert.
spies6Jenya (2:43:21 PM): Because she's so noncommital?
spies6Kirsten (2:43:27 PM): mostly
spies6Kirsten (2:43:44 PM): That's a dangerous chat to be a part of if you're a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:44:11 PM): that thing goes public and immediate scrutiny is placed on everyone in there.
spies6Jenya (2:44:56 PM): Yeah.
spies6Jenya (2:45:09 PM): Would be pretty funny if none of them were, but I doubt it.
spies6Kirsten (2:45:29 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:45:35 PM): chances are at least 1 spy was in there
spies6Kirsten (2:45:54 PM): I wouldn't suggest lynching everyone in there systematically to root out the spy, but I'd argue one of them is likely to be one.
spies6Jenya (2:46:05 PM): Either that or five cits with the worst idea ever.
spies6Kirsten (2:46:09 PM): hehe
spies6Jenya (2:46:20 PM): "Let's waste Robert's only day by having him make fake cases.
spies6Jenya (2:46:46 PM): You know, they were also the closest to Robert
spies6Jenya (2:46:51 PM): To know what a threat he was to the SPies.
spies6Kirsten (2:47:06 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:47:53 PM): Yvette I'm not suspicious of, despite what you showed me last night.
spies6Kirsten (2:48:25 PM): I still think it's inconclusive.
spies6Jenya (2:49:09 PM): Well, you can buy me a glass of wine after the game if I'm right.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:13 PM): there were other people who also said "WHAT" in response. None of them went so far to tack on the "but a super citizen" but still...
spies6Kirsten (2:49:22 PM): hehe, sure.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:46 PM): Ed I feel fairly confident is a citizen.
spies6Kirsten (2:50:22 PM): actually, why aren't you sure about Georgia? Do you her suspect her?
spies6Kirsten (2:50:29 PM): I was going to ask you that, and got sidetracked.
spies6Jenya (2:50:40 PM): I haven't talked with her one on one yet.
spies6Jenya (2:50:50 PM): She's never around.
spies6Kirsten (2:51:00 PM): she was around a lot episode 1
spies6Kirsten (2:51:07 PM): I don't know about 2
spies6Jenya (2:52:10 PM): This is the phase of the game where there are mostly good spies left,
spies6Jenya (2:52:30 PM): and we Cits start picking stupid cits to exile and hit like 4 in a row.
spies6Kirsten (2:52:34 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (2:52:40 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (2:52:48 PM): that is the typical way it goes
spies6Jenya (2:52:52 PM): Which one of the leaders do you think is a Spy?
spies6Jenya (2:52:59 PM): I'm sure one of them must be.
spies6Kirsten (2:53:00 PM): who are the leaders?
spies6Jenya (2:53:08 PM): The people who are prominent.
spies6Jenya (2:53:14 PM): Like Ariel, Yvette
spies6Jenya (2:53:22 PM): Who else do you see as a leader?
spies6Kirsten (2:53:22 PM): Yvette, Rey, Ariel...anyone else?
spies6Jenya (2:53:26 PM): Rey, yes.
spies6Kirsten (2:53:58 PM): I could see Ariel as a spy, actually. Not someone I wuold really vote out now, but she really doesn't contribute much/anything toward spyhunting.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:47 PM): Her saving Alma speaks to her as a citizen, but I wouldn't write her off for that alone.
spies6Kirsten (2:55:02 PM): or not saving alma
spies6Jenya (2:55:08 PM): So right now you're neutral on her?
spies6Kirsten (2:55:48 PM): eh, leaning more cit than neutral, but out of those 3, she would be my top choice for a spy.
spies6Jenya (2:55:56 PM): Got it.
spies6Kirsten (2:56:22 PM): so, who are you suspicious of.
spies6Jenya (2:57:36 PM): Yvette, William, Faith, Levi a little bit but not sure, Gretchen a little, Oswald a little.
spies6Jenya (2:58:18 PM): You'd be a very good spy, so I can't take you off the list.
spies6Kirsten (2:58:25 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (2:58:47 PM): I think it'll be clear as the game goes on that I'm a citizen, but that's ok.
spies6Jenya (2:58:56 PM): Hit six spies and yeah
spies6Jenya (2:59:03 PM): You'll have a good reputation.
spies6Kirsten (2:59:59 PM): why are you suspicious of me? Is it because if I were a spy I'd be a good one?
spies6Kirsten (3:00:01 PM): hehe
spies6Jenya (3:00:29 PM): Oh, just a gut feeling. There have to be smart spies.
spies6Jenya (3:00:50 PM): If Levi's not a spy, you might not look so good.
spies6Kirsten (3:01:24 PM): Perhaps not. Although I've never held to being wrong as being a scum tell
spies6Jenya (3:01:40 PM): Well, hopefully I'm wrong about you.
spies6Kirsten (3:02:27 PM): so why on the rest of those?
spies6Jenya (3:02:52 PM): Faith, I saw her acting not so nervous at Imprisonment.
spies6Jenya (3:03:06 PM): William and Yvette, their reactions to Paris.
spies6Jenya (3:03:17 PM): Levi, vibe.
spies6Jenya (3:03:29 PM): Gretchen, she feels manipulative.
spies6Jenya (3:03:48 PM): Oswald, he's possibly a little weak with suspicions.
spies6Kirsten (3:04:14 PM): what do you think from Gretchen has been manipulative?
spies6Jenya (3:04:34 PM): I don't recall off the top of my head, I just remember not believing her posts.
spies6Jenya (3:04:44 PM): They felt fake.
spies6Kirsten (3:04:51 PM): I can see that
spies6Kirsten (3:05:02 PM): There's one thing she said in chat that rung fake to me
spies6Jenya (3:05:10 PM): What's that?
spies6Kirsten (3:05:12 PM): where she didn't know about the minus voting
spies6Kirsten (3:05:16 PM): let me see if I can find it
spies6Jenya (3:05:17 PM): Ah.
spies6Jenya (3:05:21 PM): I think I remember that.
spies6Kirsten (3:06:24 PM): spies6Yvette (12:01:13 AM): Gretchen, who will you give your minus vote to this week, and why?
spies6gretchen (12:02:14 AM): minus vote? don't we have one vote? gah i haven't read enough. so i am guessing we get to take off one vote from someone?
spies6Kirsten (3:07:46 PM): I think the natural response is "Minus vote?" and wait for them to explain
spies6Jenya (3:07:56 PM): LOL
spies6Jenya (3:07:59 PM): So clueless.
spies6Jenya (3:08:04 PM): Or pretending to be.
spies6Kirsten (3:09:02 PM): if you had to vote right now, who would you vote for?
spies6Jenya (3:10:17 PM): Probably Yvette.
spies6Jenya (3:10:38 PM): I might be the only one though.
spies6Kirsten (3:11:38 PM): hypothetically, if there was a wagon on one of your other suspects, would you join that wagon or vote Yvette who you thought was somewhat more likely to be a spy?
spies6Jenya (3:12:30 PM): Oh, I'd move if it meant exiling a spy over a cit.
spies6Kirsten (3:17:51 PM): so how does it make you feel that your suspicions are very similar to my own?
spies6Kirsten (3:18:01 PM): are you being led astray by my superior spyness?
spies6Jenya (3:18:12 PM): Nope, we have totally different reasons it seems.
spies6Jenya (3:18:43 PM): I'll feel a lot better about you if you bus the next spy or two that comes up.
spies6Kirsten (3:18:54 PM): I'll keep that in mind.
spies6Jenya (3:18:57 PM):
spies6Kirsten (3:19:18 PM): Jotting in my confessional right now: Bus a spy or two to keep Jenya off of me
spies6Jenya (3:19:26 PM): It's a small price to pay.
spies6Kirsten (3:19:46 PM): two dead allies for somewhat less overall suspicion of me? Where do I sign up?
spies6Jenya (3:19:54 PM): Wow, I'm hungry. What sounds good for a Friday afternoon?
spies6Kirsten (3:20:21 PM): I'm going to get some Mexican food tonight
spies6Jenya (3:20:26 PM): Ooh, yum.
spies6Kirsten (3:20:28 PM): I know that sounds good to me
spies6Jenya (3:20:33 PM): I'm jealous
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spies6Kirsten (9:56:22 PM): how are you?
spies6Kirsten (10:04:40 PM): apparently you are doing fine not answering me...
spies6Kirsten (10:04:46 PM): sad times

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:55:58 PM): hi Rey
spies6rey (9:04:12 PM): haha hey.
spies6Kirsten (9:04:21 PM): is something funny reymond?
spies6rey (9:05:11 PM): and i can't say no to her. -.-
spies6Kirsten (9:05:37 PM): so how are you doing?
spies6rey (9:05:46 PM): mm i'm okay, you ?
spies6Kirsten (9:05:51 PM): Excellent
spies6rey (9:06:09 PM): haha that's awesome.
spies6Kirsten (9:06:19 PM): it is most definitely awesome
spies6rey (9:06:39 PM): excited for the futuristic challenges?
spies6Kirsten (9:06:56 PM): My future self is excited
spies6rey (9:10:56 PM):
spies6Kirsten (9:13:52 PM): the 1 am challenge for sunday
spies6Kirsten (9:14:02 PM): do you know if that means monday at 1 am?
spies6Kirsten (10:35:08 PM): are you still here?
spies6Kirsten (10:35:18 PM): if so, can I ask why you negative voted Gretchen?
spies6rey (10:37:37 PM): haha hey!
spies6rey (10:40:56 PM): my AIM shut off for some reason. -.-
spies6rey (10:40:57 PM): but i'm heading to sleep anyways, so it's okay.
spies6rey (10:40:57 PM): see you !
spies6Kirsten (10:41:11 PM): no answer for my question?
spies6Kirsten (10:41:15 PM): *cries*
spies6rey (10:42:21 PM): did you get that....
spies6rey (10:42:22 PM): ?
spies6rey (10:42:31 PM): for some reason my AIM keeps turning off and on.
spies6rey (10:42:34 PM): it's making me mad. xD
spies6Kirsten (10:42:44 PM): nah, I didn't see you respond to my question
spies6Kirsten (10:42:52 PM): just you saying your AIM shut off for some reason
spies6rey (10:43:05 PM): omg.
spies6rey (10:43:13 PM): spies6rey (11:37:40 PM): haha hey!

spies6rey (11:38:14 PM): haha i just -'ed her because i wanted my vote to go through, and i thought she would be the one that would achieve the most votes.

spies6rey (11:38:27 PM): but then all the people that said they were gonna vote with me didn't, so yeah. -.-
spies6rey (10:43:18 PM): tell me if you get this.
spies6rey (10:43:19 PM): :\
spies6Kirsten (10:43:28 PM): I got it
spies6Kirsten (10:43:29 PM): thanks
spies6Kirsten (10:43:37 PM): what made you think Pete was scum?
spies6Kirsten (10:43:40 PM): and Jaya was innocent?
spies6rey (10:44:06 PM): haha well i told a person i trust 100% to be a citizen that i was going to vote jaya..
spies6rey (10:44:09 PM): and then that person got mad at me.
spies6rey (10:44:16 PM): so i freaked out, haha.
spies6rey (10:44:32 PM): i frantically looked for someone else to vote at the last few hours before exile.
spies6rey (10:44:46 PM): anyways, i'm heading to be now.
spies6Kirsten (10:44:51 PM): I don't understand. Why would them freaking out change your mind about Jaya?
spies6Kirsten (10:44:53 PM): alright
spies6Kirsten (10:44:56 PM): I can ask you later
spies6rey (10:45:16 PM): haha because i trust that person's judgement.
spies6rey (10:45:16 PM): anyways, yeah.
spies6rey (10:45:16 PM): see you !
spies6Kirsten (10:45:22 PM): later
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spies6Kirsten (6:32:18 PM): rey
spies6Kirsten (6:32:25 PM): I wish to continue our conversation from last night
spies6rey (6:34:22 PM): haha i am not at my computer right now but if you have quick questions i can answer them.
spies6rey (6:34:31 PM): i don't wanna say anything here because i can't record it sadly.
spies6Kirsten (6:34:35 PM): you're not at your computer right now?
spies6Kirsten (6:34:57 PM): oh, hehe, I thought that was a lame attempt to give me the auto away message in hopes of getting rid of me
spies6rey (6:35:11 PM): haha it has an auto away message?
spies6rey (6:35:11 PM): o.O
spies6Kirsten (6:35:11 PM): although, I can always send you the chat, so failure to record is a poor excuse
spies6rey (6:35:27 PM): haha alright, you can talk to me if youw ant.
spies6rey (6:35:27 PM):
spies6Kirsten (6:35:47 PM): you seem extremely reluctant to chat.
spies6Kirsten (6:36:10 PM): and I don't understand why. I'm only mean some of the time. I can be very nice too
spies6rey (6:37:08 PM): haha no it's nothing to do with you.
spies6rey (6:37:17 PM): i'm just busy.
spies6rey (6:37:21 PM): i'm not at home, haha.
spies6Kirsten (6:39:22 PM): alright
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spies6rey (8:13:44 PM): home !
spies6Kirsten (8:13:59 PM): I'm waiting for you to concoct some excuse to avoid me
spies6rey (8:14:21 PM): haha uhh i have to go washroom, brb.
spies6Kirsten (8:15:04 PM): hours later: God, what is taking rey so long in the washroom. He must be playing with himself in there!
spies6Kirsten (8:18:45 PM): spies6rey (10:44:06 PM): haha well i told a person i trust 100% to be a citizen that i was going to vote jaya..
spies6rey (10:44:09 PM): and then that person got mad at me.
spies6rey (10:44:16 PM): so i freaked out, haha.
spies6rey (10:44:32 PM): i frantically looked for someone else to vote at the last few hours before exile.
spies6rey (8:23:55 PM): haha okay.
spies6rey (8:23:58 PM): yes, i was playing with myself.
spies6rey (8:24:01 PM): anyways!
spies6Kirsten (8:24:12 PM): interesting...I'll log that for later
spies6rey (8:24:15 PM): yeah, what didn't you get about that, haha?
spies6Kirsten (8:24:25 PM): Why would someone getting mad at you change your mind?
spies6rey (8:24:46 PM): oh, haha. i trust that person to be a citizen 100% so i trust their judgement as well.
spies6Kirsten (8:25:01 PM): if you think Jaya is a spy, even if confirmed citizen A says "I think you are wrong" I don't see why you would immediately change your mind entirely into trying to push a different exile altogether
spies6rey (8:25:14 PM): haha no, i wasn't sure.
spies6rey (8:25:20 PM): i never said i KNEW she was a spy.
spies6rey (8:25:24 PM): i said i was going to vote her.
spies6rey (8:25:42 PM): technically that does mean that i think she is a spy.
spies6rey (8:25:46 PM): but
spies6rey (8:25:51 PM): my mind changes easily.
spies6rey (8:26:05 PM): if you need proof you only need to see my team chats before we exiled almathea.
spies6Kirsten (8:26:06 PM): apparently
spies6Kirsten (8:26:10 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (8:26:18 PM): you are a little gun shy around spies..it's ok
spies6rey (8:26:21 PM): i was doubting my choice hours before exile.
spies6rey (8:26:24 PM): haha yeah, LOL.
spies6rey (8:26:36 PM): plus almathea was good looking so that stopped me a little too.
spies6rey (8:26:40 PM):
spies6rey (8:26:45 PM): i'd feel bad if she WASN'T a spy.
spies6Kirsten (8:26:59 PM): yeah, what a horrible person you would be to get rid of a pretty gal
spies6Kirsten (8:27:07 PM): all the guys of the burg would hate you forever
spies6rey (8:27:15 PM): /sob
spies6Kirsten (8:30:04 PM): did the person get mad at you or give you reasons to think Jaya was a citizen? I don't understand why you would change your mind over someone disliking your vote choice?
spies6rey (8:30:23 PM): here's the message, one sec.
spies6rey (8:30:46 PM): okay
spies6rey (8:30:50 PM): NOW i remember
spies6rey (8:31:00 PM): "Why do you think Jaya is a citizen?
I might vote her this round.
"
spies6rey (8:31:03 PM): i said that
spies6rey (8:31:06 PM): and then the reply
spies6rey (8:31:30 PM): "Are you serious?

The person Almathea and Paris tried to frame to stop Almathea going is supposed to be a SPY? Why in the name of all that's holy would they do that?

If that idea's even on the table then, please, please, please stop the idiocy... "
spies6rey (8:31:45 PM): so yeah...
spies6rey (8:31:55 PM): if you read that, wouldn't it make you doubt your vote a little?
spies6rey (8:31:56 PM): o.O
spies6Kirsten (8:32:24 PM): maybe so...

[Kirsten]

spies6Ed (10:04:17 PM): Hello Kirsten!
spies6Kirsten (10:04:24 PM): Hi, Ed
spies6Kirsten (10:04:35 PM): I haven't spoken to you, but I have negative voted you, hehe
spies6Kirsten (10:04:43 PM): how are you doing?
spies6Ed (10:04:50 PM): I know, thanks!
spies6Ed (10:04:52 PM): Good, you?
spies6Kirsten (10:04:57 PM): fantastic
spies6Ed (10:05:23 PM): Although your reasons for negative voting me freaked me out a bit
spies6Kirsten (10:05:32 PM): really?
spies6Kirsten (10:05:35 PM): how so?
spies6Ed (10:05:57 PM): Just because you said you thought I would receive some positive votes
spies6Kirsten (10:06:02 PM): ah, yes
spies6Kirsten (10:06:24 PM): Ariel was going to vote you, and ended up changing her vote to jaya at some point
spies6Kirsten (10:06:35 PM): I think maybe someone else was as well
spies6Ed (10:06:44 PM): Most likely her bosom buddy
spies6Kirsten (10:07:01 PM): if you mean yvette, then no. Yvette was originally planning to vote Georgia
spies6Ed (10:07:26 PM): I did mean her, but I really have no idea what Yvette is going after anymore
spies6Kirsten (10:07:43 PM): the eradication of men
spies6Kirsten (10:07:47 PM): from what I hear
spies6Ed (10:08:11 PM): Haha, true
spies6Kirsten (10:09:02 PM): where you around when everyone decided to swap to voting Jaya?
spies6Kirsten (10:09:08 PM): I'm really interested in how that all went down
spies6Ed (10:10:18 PM): I was not included
spies6Ed (10:10:48 PM): She was my #2 suspect but I had no idea she was getting that many votes
spies6Ed (10:11:07 PM): After her post and Rey's pleading, I decided to go with Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (10:11:20 PM): I didn't expect those votes either.
spies6Kirsten (10:11:27 PM): I had her as leaning slightly citizen
spies6Kirsten (10:11:39 PM): basically from one chat where she seemed very clueless
spies6Ed (10:11:42 PM): Really? Even after voting Almathea?
spies6Kirsten (10:12:15 PM): yeah. That was my only point of suspcion on her.
spies6Ed (10:13:04 PM): Not her support of a Roxy exile for information?
spies6Ed (10:13:15 PM): Not her support of my vote cuz I told too many jokes?
spies6Kirsten (10:13:36 PM): I'll be honest, I didn't realize she was support of the Roxy info lynch or that she wanted to vote you for joking too much
spies6Kirsten (10:14:01 PM): did that happen the day of the exile?
spies6Ed (10:14:02 PM): Did you see the team chat summary?
spies6Kirsten (10:14:12 PM): yeah
spies6Ed (10:14:31 PM): Where she gave zero analysis of her former teammates and declared they were all citizens?
spies6Ed (10:14:37 PM): She may have been right, but still
spies6Kirsten (10:14:38 PM): I did see that
spies6Kirsten (10:14:56 PM): although they did all look like citizens (excepting Pete, I was iffy on)
spies6Ed (10:15:17 PM): As was I, but now....2 spies down? It's hard to question him
spies6Kirsten (10:15:23 PM): right
spies6Ed (10:15:25 PM): And I've never even talked to him
spies6Kirsten (10:15:27 PM): same
spies6Kirsten (10:15:43 PM): I think after him voting Jaya in a close exile, he's much more likely to be a citizen at this point
spies6Ed (10:16:08 PM): I would agree, Tiberius as as well although I haven't talked to him much either
spies6Kirsten (10:16:18 PM): I could have seen him as someone who bussed Alma, but now that we know Jaya a spy did not bus alma, and he was on the Jaya lynch, he seems citizen.
spies6Ed (10:16:53 PM): Definitely, unless they are two badass confident spies
spies6Ed (10:17:12 PM): It's a risky strategy, but it could possibly work...
spies6Ed (10:17:16 PM): Very risky
spies6Kirsten (10:17:17 PM): possibly
spies6Kirsten (10:17:50 PM): I think busing scumbuddies that agressively usually is a really poor strategy, and a fairly unlikely explanation for them being on both wagons.
spies6Ed (10:18:29 PM): They're basically as confirmed as you can get at this point
spies6Kirsten (10:18:40 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:18:47 PM): I expect to find some spies on Paris' wagon
spies6Ed (10:19:23 PM): Defintely yeah
spies6Ed (10:19:38 PM): Thought they were bandwagoning a Citizen
spies6Kirsten (10:19:42 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (10:19:58 PM): I think that would have been an interesting role to play
spies6Ed (10:20:13 PM): It would have been fun, but very tricky
spies6Kirsten (10:20:18 PM): yep
spies6Ed (10:20:48 PM): Maybe Sam is crazy and there's more than 1 traitor...
spies6Kirsten (10:21:09 PM): I wouldn't put it past him. Although, it's probably not hte case
spies6Ed (10:21:16 PM): Probably not
spies6Kirsten (10:21:56 PM): meh, now I have to try to figure out who is the most likely spy out of everything this time
spies6Kirsten (10:22:00 PM): going to take some time
spies6Kirsten (10:22:44 PM): I kind of wish it had just been one big happy family from the beginning.
spies6Kirsten (10:23:03 PM): a lot to go through early on, but I wouldn't still be trying to meet people in episode 3
spies6Ed (10:23:16 PM): True, but it would have been overwhelming early on
spies6Ed (10:23:19 PM): 31 others?
spies6Ed (10:23:23 PM): yikes
spies6Kirsten (10:23:43 PM): haha, especially with how quickly the first exile is from the start of the game
spies6Ed (10:24:02 PM): And there's no happy family when people are being exiled and imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (10:24:45 PM): ok, so maybe 1 big angry family set out to systematically kill each other off
spies6Kirsten (10:24:48 PM): close enough
spies6Ed (10:25:33 PM): That's like my real life family
spies6Kirsten (10:25:48 PM): sounds disfunctional
spies6Ed (10:25:49 PM): Insane family reunions
spies6Kirsten (10:25:51 PM): hehe
spies6Ed (10:26:01 PM): bullet-proof vests required
spies6Ed (10:27:00 PM): So your top 3 suspects were William, Pete and Gretchen...Pete looks pretty solid at this point but what about William and Gretchen?
spies6Kirsten (10:27:19 PM): William still looks as iffy as ever.
spies6Kirsten (10:27:31 PM): I really cannot figure him out.
spies6Kirsten (10:27:49 PM): As for gretchen, I'm not entirely sure on that yet.
spies6Kirsten (10:28:03 PM): I want to look back at the votes for last exile and see if it looked like spy v. spy in the running or spy v. cit
spies6Kirsten (10:28:10 PM): who did Jaya vote for?
spies6Ed (10:28:15 PM): Me
spies6Ed (10:28:36 PM): the only thing going for Gretchen is that Jaya being a spy reduces her odds of being a spy
spies6Kirsten (10:28:43 PM): were either Jaya or Gretchen online the day of the exile?
spies6Ed (10:29:41 PM): Jaya was
spies6Ed (10:29:53 PM): I don't belive Gretchen was
spies6Kirsten (10:30:05 PM): do you think Jaya was aware that Gretchen was the competing wagon?
spies6Ed (10:30:29 PM): Possibly, but as far as I knew it was Gretchen v. Georgia
spies6Kirsten (10:31:23 PM): I mean, she didn't vote Gretchen to save herself, which could point to Gretchen being a spy, but I guess she didn't vote Georgia either, and may not have even known she was getting a lot of votes.
spies6Ed (10:32:31 PM): All I really got from Jaya was that at nearly 10 CST, she knew that she was the only one voting for me
spies6Ed (10:32:41 PM): spies6jaya (9:54:53 PM): ed, rey assures me that i will be the only vote for you, so I don't guess you need to worry too much
spies6Kirsten (10:33:28 PM): did she seem nervous at all?
spies6Kirsten (10:34:31 PM): she probably didn't realize she was going to get exiled, which would mean that her not voting Gretchen doesn't make Gretchen any more likely to be a spy, and maybe even somewhat more likely to be a citizen by virtue of being the competing wagon to one on a spy
spies6Ed (10:36:17 PM): Possibly, but she didn't give any opnion whatsoever when I talked about my Gretchen suspicions
spies6Kirsten (10:37:23 PM): did she give opinions to other topics of discussions?
spies6Kirsten (10:37:36 PM): was that kind of normal for her, or was it out of the ordinary?
spies6Ed (10:39:07 PM): The only other time I talked to her was during the team chat summary
spies6Kirsten (10:39:19 PM): ok
spies6Ed (10:39:47 PM): the only other person she said to me that she suspected was william
spies6Ed (10:39:54 PM): again, she had no real reasons
spies6Kirsten (10:39:58 PM): interesting...
spies6Kirsten (10:40:29 PM): did she even give any reasons, or no?
spies6Ed (10:40:42 PM): for who?
spies6Kirsten (10:40:45 PM): William
spies6Ed (10:42:21 PM): I'm looking through the team chat and she seems to not give any reason
spies6Kirsten (10:43:14 PM): so she was suspicious of you and william. Anyone else? Roxy for information?
spies6Ed (10:43:58 PM): Basically, look through the team chat, she randomly mentions me and William and that a Roxy exile would give a lot of info
spies6Ed (10:44:13 PM): spies6Georgia (12:30:35 AM): Who do you find suspicious at this time?
spies6jaya (12:30:49 AM): ed
spies6jaya (12:30:56 AM): william
spies6Georgia (12:31:22 AM): Why Ed and William?
spies6jaya (12:31:39 AM): i think right now i would probably vote roxy
spies6jaya (12:31:59 AM): i think gretchen made a good case that we'
spies6jaya (12:32:04 AM): d learn a lot
spies6Kirsten (10:45:48 PM): I think that William mention is odd
spies6Ed (10:46:23 PM): Why? Covering?
spies6Kirsten (10:47:15 PM): well, William was never on her team, and I'm wondering if anyone had even mentioned him previously in the chat
spies6Ed (10:47:46 PM): He was on the 2nd team
spies6Kirsten (10:47:46 PM): i mean, you were in the chat at the time, and roxy had been discussed to some extent.
spies6Kirsten (10:47:58 PM): yeah, I meant her team the first episode
spies6Ed (10:48:17 PM): True, but my two biggest suspects weren't from my team
spies6Kirsten (10:49:08 PM): eh, I just find it weird because William isn't on AIM very often, is quiet, and doesn't post a whole lot on the burg
spies6Ed (10:49:36 PM): So...covering for him or just a random easy citizen exile?
spies6Kirsten (10:49:36 PM): why would she have any reason to be suspicious of him at all?
spies6Kirsten (10:50:00 PM): I don't know
spies6Ed (10:51:20 PM): Me neither, it's going to be tough with no more teams anymore
spies6Kirsten (10:53:09 PM): so, nobody discussed William at all prior to that statement in the group chat
spies6Kirsten (10:53:15 PM): which makes it look pretty suspicious
spies6Ed (10:55:43 PM): Did a quick search, the only ones who negatively mentioned him were Jaya and Gretchen
spies6Ed (10:55:54 PM): All others were neutral
spies6Kirsten (10:56:39 PM): where did gretchen mention him negatively?
spies6Kirsten (10:56:49 PM): in the exile thread?
spies6Ed (10:57:26 PM): pies6gretchen (11:47:13 AM): yeah william is a lurker. for sure. not sure if it's cause he is new or cause he is a bad spy or cause he just doesn't want to go out on a limb and express his thoughts.
spies6Ed (10:57:45 PM): That's all my mini search turned up
spies6Kirsten (10:59:12 PM): where was that from?
spies6Kirsten (10:59:30 PM): was that episode 1? I'm not seeing it in the team chat thread
spies6Ed (11:00:23 PM): Jaya analysis thread, apparently not the team chat thread
spies6Ed (11:00:34 PM): started by Gretchen actually..
spies6Kirsten (11:02:08 PM):
spies6jaya (11:46:33 AM): i haven't seen william at all, and haven't even read much from him in your exile thread from before
spies6Kirsten (11:02:45 PM): yet she had listed him as a suspect
spies6Ed (11:02:46 PM): Neutral spy analysis?
spies6Ed (11:04:02 PM): Well I gotta go, you gonna be around this weekend?
spies6Kirsten (11:04:26 PM): tomorrow I should be
spies6Kirsten (11:04:34 PM): Sat/Sun less so, although I'll make some of the challenges
spies6Ed (11:04:54 PM): Cool, hopefully we'll talk tomorrow
spies6Kirsten (11:05:02 PM): yeah, definitely. have a good night.
spies6Ed (11:05:09 PM): You too, goodnight

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (10:08:38 PM): Mr. Zepellin.
spies6Kirsten (10:08:43 PM): how are you today?
spies6khaled (10:11:42 PM): Ha
spies6khaled (10:11:43 PM): I'm alright
spies6khaled (10:11:45 PM): you?
spies6Kirsten (10:12:32 PM): I'm doing great.
spies6khaled (10:15:29 PM): Good to hear
spies6Kirsten (10:16:42 PM): so how was your team last episode?
spies6Kirsten (10:16:54 PM): it looks like everyone just kind of ganged up on Paris. Anything interesting happen?
spies6khaled (10:20:07 PM): Not terribly
spies6khaled (10:20:28 PM): It kind of got decided in a similar fashion to Callahan, with a few people taking alternate routes
spies6Kirsten (10:20:45 PM): you must just love those overwhelming bandwagons, eh?
spies6Kirsten (10:20:46 PM):
spies6khaled (10:20:55 PM): somehow they happen when I'm there
spies6khaled (10:24:31 PM): But in our team chat that night, Paris was just making a fool of himself
spies6Kirsten (10:25:07 PM): really?
spies6Kirsten (10:25:10 PM): how so?
spies6khaled (10:25:42 PM): well, at one point
spies6khaled (10:25:49 PM): he was asking everyone who he should vote for to survive
spies6Kirsten (10:27:02 PM): and what did people tell him?
spies6khaled (10:27:52 PM): "You're an idiot"
spies6khaled (10:35:21 PM): Anyway
spies6khaled (10:35:23 PM): I'm off to bed
spies6Kirsten (10:35:31 PM): alright. Good night
spies6khaled (10:35:34 PM): Night
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spies6Kirsten (6:53:53 PM): can you explain to me why you voted for Iris?
spies6Kirsten (6:54:08 PM): did she exhibit more scumtells? If so, which ones?

[Kirsten]

spies6mirela (7:36:05 PM): Hello Kirsten
spies6Kirsten (7:36:29 PM): hi
spies6Kirsten (7:36:32 PM): how are you?
spies6mirela (7:37:40 PM): im doing fine. a little sick thoguh
spies6mirela (7:37:45 PM): how are you doing?
spies6Kirsten (7:37:52 PM): pretty good
spies6mirela (7:38:05 PM): what the hell is up with this future shit?
spies6Kirsten (7:38:11 PM): that's a good question
spies6Kirsten (7:38:19 PM): that is an excellent question, and I have no clue
spies6mirela (7:40:36 PM): so who do you suspect right now in the game?
spies6Kirsten (7:41:09 PM): only you, nobody else
spies6Kirsten (7:41:48 PM): let's see, Levi, Boris, Gretchen, William Faith are my main suspects right now
spies6mirela (7:42:00 PM): wow thats a lot of suspects
spies6mirela (7:42:07 PM): is there a reason why you suspect them all
spies6Kirsten (7:42:21 PM): Levi, based on the reasons I laid out in the thread I made last episode
spies6mirela (7:42:46 PM): i didn't understand that whole situation
spies6Kirsten (7:43:07 PM): Boris - because he's smart, but really under the radar, and I was suspicious of both of his votes so far.
spies6Kirsten (7:43:14 PM): what do you mean?
spies6mirela (7:43:43 PM): well i wasn't here when you begin suspecting levi
spies6Kirsten (7:44:34 PM): yeah. Did you read that thread?
spies6Kirsten (7:44:41 PM): also, how are you doing catching up?
spies6mirela (7:44:52 PM): i'm doing fine, i just need to get to know the other team
spies6mirela (7:44:56 PM): team alive
spies6mirela (7:45:47 PM): according to who you suspect
spies6mirela (7:45:54 PM): who only suspect two people on your team
spies6mirela (7:45:57 PM): you*
spies6Kirsten (7:46:02 PM): yeah
spies6mirela (7:46:11 PM): is everyone else more likely a citizen?
spies6Kirsten (7:46:18 PM): in my opinion, yes
spies6Kirsten (7:46:45 PM): I had a hard time voting last episode, because I missed most of the episode, and most of my team looked fairly citizen.
spies6mirela (7:46:59 PM): you think yvette is a citizen/
spies6Kirsten (7:47:32 PM): yeah, I do.
spies6mirela (7:47:51 PM): whys that?
spies6Kirsten (7:48:51 PM): she's pushing a lot of stuff aggressively and really putting herself out there on the front lines.
spies6mirela (7:49:30 PM): who do you think will get imprisoned?
spies6Kirsten (7:49:40 PM): that's a bold move for a spy, and I think it's far more likely she's a citizen making that play. also, she voted Jaya last episode in a close exile that resulted in a dead spy, which makes her somewhat more likely to be a citizen.
spies6Kirsten (7:49:50 PM): I have no clue who will be imprisoned.
spies6Kirsten (7:50:17 PM): that depends on who the spies are and who they consider a threat.
spies6mirela (7:50:50 PM): well don't you think yvette is a threat?
spies6Kirsten (7:51:06 PM): that depends
spies6Kirsten (7:51:28 PM): if she's consistently wrong, then no.
spies6mirela (7:51:46 PM): if yvette, mei yun, and kahled, the three players who are intelligent and speak out the most
spies6Kirsten (7:51:55 PM): being a leader doesn't necessarily mean you are a threat.
spies6mirela (7:51:59 PM): if one of them doesn't get imprisoned soon
spies6mirela (7:52:04 PM): one of them has to be a spy
spies6Kirsten (7:52:27 PM): mmm...I don't know about that
spies6mirela (7:52:35 PM): why's that?
spies6Kirsten (7:52:57 PM): pretty much everyone who plays spies is intelligent
spies6mirela (7:53:19 PM): yvette, ariel, iris, or faith must be a spy
spies6mirela (7:53:24 PM): one of them has to be
spies6Kirsten (7:53:30 PM): one of them probably is.
spies6Kirsten (7:53:47 PM): not a guarantee, but it's likely that a spy knew about the plan to save Robert.
spies6mirela (7:54:21 PM): exactly
spies6Kirsten (7:54:58 PM): so who do you suspect?
spies6mirela (7:55:48 PM): well obviously that group
spies6mirela (7:55:56 PM): although i do believe iris is a citizen
spies6mirela (7:56:40 PM): right now, i suspect gabriela and amelia
spies6Kirsten (7:56:40 PM): why's that?
spies6mirela (7:58:43 PM): well gabriela only talks during select times
spies6mirela (7:58:52 PM): ive yet to have a conversation with her
spies6mirela (7:59:22 PM): and as for amelia. she was persistent that paris was not a spy
spies6Kirsten (7:59:41 PM): why does that make gabriela likely to be a spy?
spies6mirela (7:59:59 PM): it seems suspicious
spies6Kirsten (8:00:13 PM): only being available to talk at certain times?
spies6mirela (8:00:36 PM): yea, i think that's a valid stradegy
spies6mirela (8:00:43 PM): maybe she's not saying much on purpose
spies6Kirsten (8:01:00 PM): meh, you should be suspicious of me too then. I'm usually only available to talk at night cause I work during the day.
spies6mirela (8:01:41 PM): yes but gabrielaisn't on ever
spies6Kirsten (8:03:25 PM): why did Amelia think Paris was not a spy?
spies6Kirsten (8:03:33 PM): also, why do you think Iris is a citizen?
spies6mirela (8:04:26 PM): ive had numerous conversations with iris
spies6mirela (8:04:47 PM): faith shares my belief about iris as well
spies6Kirsten (8:05:01 PM): what about those conversations made you think she is a citizen?
spies6mirela (8:05:14 PM): they way she conducted herself
spies6Kirsten (8:05:58 PM): did Amelia give a reason for thinking Paris was a citizen?
spies6mirela (8:06:03 PM): nope
spies6Kirsten (8:06:14 PM): that is pretty suspicious, then
spies6mirela (8:06:30 PM): exactly
spies6mirela (8:06:36 PM): and she's not on a lot either
spies6Kirsten (8:06:52 PM): I haven't seen her on yet
spies6Kirsten (8:07:04 PM): she voted me the first episode and we had never talked (still haven't)
spies6mirela (8:07:22 PM): it apepars amelia is a fan of not giving her opinions
spies6Kirsten (8:18:14 PM): but giving your opinions is boring!
spies6Kirsten (8:18:23 PM): and spies 5 carly told us to never be boring
spies6mirela (8:18:36 PM): oh yes, boring we can't be
spies6mirela (8:18:45 PM): have you been boring?
spies6Kirsten (8:18:59 PM): no way
spies6Kirsten (8:19:06 PM): I'm all excitiment all the time
spies6mirela (8:19:08 PM): ahaha
spies6Kirsten (8:19:34 PM): from your picture, you seem easily excited as well.
spies6mirela (8:19:42 PM): i'm always excited girl!
spies6Kirsten (8:19:44 PM): congratulations on looking like a non-boring person!
spies6Kirsten (8:19:47 PM):
spies6mirela (8:19:58 PM): the spirits are all around me and they are always telling me crazy things
spies6Kirsten (8:20:04 PM): really?
spies6Kirsten (8:20:07 PM): what kinds of things?
spies6mirela (8:20:26 PM): well, i remember a spirit visited me in my sleep
spies6mirela (8:20:40 PM): and they told me my dress would be on fire
spies6mirela (8:20:56 PM): and when i woke up, i accidententally knocked over the candle next to my bed
spies6mirela (8:21:00 PM): and my dress caught on fire!
spies6mirela (8:21:03 PM): how crazy is that?
spies6Kirsten (8:21:08 PM): that's pretty crazy
spies6Kirsten (8:21:15 PM): and also kind of scary
spies6Kirsten (8:21:25 PM): I'm not worried about you dreaming things
spies6Kirsten (8:21:30 PM): now
spies6mirela (8:21:41 PM): oh?
spies6Kirsten (8:22:04 PM): what if you dream something bad happening to me
spies6Kirsten (8:22:25 PM): then I would always be looking over my shoulder in hopes it doesn't happen
spies6mirela (8:30:05 PM): i know
spies6mirela (8:30:12 PM): but i've grown accustomed to it
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spies6Kirsten (9:24:18 PM): mirela
spies6Kirsten (9:24:28 PM): do you have the chat where Amelia talks about paris being a citizen?
spies6Kirsten (9:24:32 PM): if so, can I see it?

[Kirsten]

spies6thor (2:26:00 PM): greetings, kirsten!
spies6Kirsten (2:27:02 PM): hi, you norse god, you
spies6thor (2:28:27 PM): how are you?
spies6Kirsten (2:28:47 PM): I'm doing great
spies6Kirsten (2:28:49 PM): and yourself?
spies6thor (2:28:57 PM): i am quite well.
spies6Kirsten (2:29:02 PM): glad to hear it
spies6Kirsten (2:29:09 PM): I wanted to talk to you actually
spies6Kirsten (2:29:17 PM): regarding the jaya votes from last episode.
spies6thor (2:29:30 PM): okay!
spies6Kirsten (2:29:32 PM): neither you, ariel, nor yvette had originally planned to vote her. I'm interested in how that all went about
spies6thor (2:31:10 PM): well, rey was attempting to build a case on pete. he told me not to share it with anyone except yvette, who i asked to show it to to get her opinion as i was uncertain. i later found out the only person he did not tell was ariel. i spoke with her about an hour before the deadline and we began panciking because we both felt it was the wrong vote to make, and rey was threatening that he had enough people on his side to minus every other vote.
spies6thor (2:31:43 PM): we put our heads together and decided jaya was the most likely spy on our team (my vote was originally on her until rey persuaded me to take it off).
spies6Kirsten (2:38:13 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (2:38:16 PM): sorry, was distracted
spies6Kirsten (2:38:34 PM): I want to talk to rey about that whole pete thing
spies6thor (2:39:14 PM): yes, i'm still a bit confused about that. he has a trend of causing suspicion of spies and backing out close to the actual exile.
spies6Kirsten (2:39:53 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:40:06 PM): if he's a spy trying to bus, he's doing a poor job of it
spies6thor (2:40:59 PM): definitely, haha.
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spies6Kirsten (9:56:42 PM): Thor, do you think I could see the chats where you all decided to vote for Jaya?
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spies6Kirsten (9:56:50 PM): I'm interested in the role Ariel/Yvette played in that
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[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:05:42 PM): hi, I don't think we've spoken before
spies6Faith (8:06:04 PM): Hey there girl! I don't think we have
spies6Faith (8:06:13 PM): Nice to meet you!
spies6Kirsten (8:06:26 PM): nice to meet you too!
spies6Faith (8:06:58 PM): So been enjoying your friday night ? (this future stuff is so werid)
spies6Kirsten (8:07:12 PM): yeah, it is.
spies6Kirsten (8:07:18 PM): that felix guy is creepy
spies6Faith (8:07:33 PM): Ugh I know. He seemed nice when he first said hi to me.
spies6Faith (8:07:36 PM): But then... ugh.
spies6Faith (8:07:41 PM): And his picture... double ugh.
spies6Kirsten (8:09:19 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (8:09:50 PM): who did you vote last episode? Was it levi?
spies6Faith (8:09:56 PM): Yeah my vote was on Levi
spies6Kirsten (8:10:11 PM): why's that?
spies6Faith (8:12:15 PM): For the reason I posted on the case against him in the case you started. His exile post said he was voting for Roxy and if he wasn't going to vote for her than he would vote for Mei Yun even thought he didn't suspect her. (Right there was a wtf for me). So I asked him about it and he said he didn't know who he would have voted for if not Roxy. So I found that werid.
spies6Faith (8:12:30 PM): He then later posted in the burg why he did that post... but he never told me it in chat
spies6Faith (8:12:35 PM): when I was asking him
spies6Faith (8:12:57 PM): To me it just felt like he was trying to make up a story and couldn't figure one out until after we chatted.
spies6Kirsten (8:13:14 PM): alright
spies6Kirsten (8:13:23 PM): why did Jenya vote for you last episode?
spies6Faith (8:13:29 PM): I still don't know
spies6Faith (8:13:42 PM): On the night of exile she came to me and said 'I'm voting for you, why shouldn't I?'
spies6Faith (8:13:53 PM): I said why... and asked her why she was voting for me so I could try to defend myself.
spies6Faith (8:14:00 PM): She starts talking about Paris.
spies6Faith (8:14:09 PM): So I still don't know the reason.
spies6Kirsten (8:14:26 PM): alright...
spies6Kirsten (8:16:18 PM): when you were in the chat with Ariel, Iris, Yvette, etc. discussing saving Robert, why did you just kind of sit in the background?
spies6Kirsten (8:16:34 PM): what were you thinking? Did you think it was a good idea, bad idea, etc?
spies6Faith (8:22:00 PM): Well, it wasn't my idea. So I didn't really know what the plan entailed so I just listened to what Yvette had to say. I couldn't really just start explaining her idea to people. If I did think of something though I added my two cents. I'm just naturally more of a listener, it's my nature. I was thinking at the time it was a pretty good idea to be honest. If we could help protect two of our most vocal players from imprisonment it would be helpful. Clearly it didn't work and clearly I'm being looked at because of it.
spies6Kirsten (8:43:41 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (8:43:49 PM): sorry for being slow to respond
spies6Kirsten (8:43:57 PM): was distracted with a losing hangman game
spies6Faith (8:43:58 PM): no worries, I'm talking to alot of other people myself
spies6Kirsten (8:44:35 PM): what do you think about the rest of the people involved in that chat?
spies6Kirsten (8:44:40 PM): do you think there's a spy amongst them?
spies6Faith (8:47:07 PM): There could very well be. I won't deny that. Ariel looks like a citizen to me at the moment though for not saving Alma and voting Jaya. (I think Roxy is a citizen at the moment as well). Yvette looks good for taking out a spy as well. Though I actually don't know how Jaya got voted out. When I was skimming through what was going on in your teams thing the votes seemed all over the place. That leaves Iris who I've personally always had citizen vibes with but I found it werid how in my group chat she called me out for throwing her under the bus... when I never said anything about her.
spies6Kirsten (8:48:08 PM): did you ask her about it?
spies6Faith (8:48:46 PM): Well when she told me she was originally voting for me in front of everyone in our group chat, I explained my side of things to her and she took it back
spies6Faith (8:49:12 PM): I would like to ask her a little more about it though.
spies6Kirsten (8:49:20 PM): is this chat somewhere on the burg?
spies6Faith (8:49:38 PM): No I don't believe so, but I can post it / send it to you if you'd like
spies6Kirsten (8:49:49 PM): yeah, I'd appreciate it
spies6Faith (8:50:05 PM): k I'll send both the group chat and the private one I had with her.
spies6Kirsten (8:50:19 PM): alright, thanks. Your team was really quiet last round
spies6Kirsten (8:50:30 PM): it's hard for me to get impressions of people that I haven't even talked with
spies6Faith (9:06:58 PM): Sent! Sorry it took a bit
spies6Faith (9:07:11 PM): I gave you the whole group chat even though the Iris bit is only right at the start
spies6Faith (9:07:18 PM): maybe you can get better impressions of people from it
spies6Kirsten (9:07:49 PM): thanks
spies6Kirsten (9:07:55 PM): I will read that. I need to learn more about your team
spies6Faith (9:08:00 PM): no problem!
spies6Faith (9:09:09 PM): But I agree with you, I don't have a lot of impressions from people from you team either. I don't even have very good ones with some of the people still on mine. For instance Boris was in the group chat for like 5 minutes before he had to leave. I've yet to see him since so I really don't know anything about him
spies6Kirsten (9:09:16 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:09:23 PM): Boris was on my original team and I know like nothing about him
spies6Faith (9:11:59 PM): And it's a little annoying because I know I can't get on AIM a lot so I have to rely on burg posts. A good majority of my team hadn't posted suspcion lists at all
spies6Kirsten (9:12:23 PM): yeah, your team was really non-existent
spies6Kirsten (9:12:27 PM): in the burg at least
spies6Faith (9:12:38 PM): Mhm. I agree for sure.
spies6Kirsten (9:12:48 PM): Boris is one of my suspects, basically because he's voted the bandwagon both exiles and has been lurking otherwise.
spies6Faith (9:13:09 PM): With good reason I don't know if anyone knows anything about him
spies6Faith (9:13:15 PM): all I know is he won the tiebreaker
spies6Faith (9:13:17 PM): and gave it to Rey
spies6Faith (9:13:20 PM): that's honestly it
spies6Kirsten (9:14:38 PM): yeah. He voted Roxy for our team the day of exile, but was absent otherwise. Voted Paris, but seemed absent otherwise
spies6Faith (9:17:12 PM): He certainly doesn't put in his two cents... on anything.
spies6Faith (9:17:20 PM): That I can remember at least.
spies6Faith (9:23:16 PM): I also havn't gotten to talk to Ameila a lot. I know she was on vacation though so I'm hoping that's why.
spies6Kirsten (9:23:32 PM): neither have I
spies6Kirsten (9:23:51 PM): I've heard mention that she was defending Paris as being framed but ended up changing her mind and voting for him
spies6Faith (9:24:00 PM): oh really?
spies6Kirsten (9:24:00 PM): do you know anything about that?
spies6Faith (9:24:03 PM): I never heard of that
spies6Faith (9:24:19 PM): I know she said something along the lines of 'Mirela could be a spy because she was replaced and Jocelyn wasn't
spies6Faith (9:24:20 PM): '
spies6Faith (9:24:25 PM): that's about all I can remember from her
spies6Kirsten (9:24:49 PM): yeah, i remember reading that
spies6Faith (9:25:34 PM): Can't say I agree with that thought process.
spies6Kirsten (9:25:57 PM): I don't either, although I don't consider that suggestion to be very scummy either
spies6Kirsten (9:26:32 PM): I think it was more of a jocelyn was first, mirela was 2nd kind of thing, but eh...I don't think we'll get very far trying to determine if Sam only replaces spies or citizens, or what.
spies6Faith (9:27:09 PM): I agree with you there. I would assume he'd replace both but we shouldn't base suspicions based on what the host may or may not do
spies6Kirsten (9:27:17 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (9:27:33 PM): gaming the mod sounds like a bad plan, especially in a game with crazy future weeks
spies6Faith (9:54:06 PM): oh sorry I missed this. I have to get going to bed though. I'll ttyl!
spies6Kirsten (9:54:19 PM): goodnight!

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:50:42 PM): ellis, hi
spies6ellis (8:51:55 PM): Hi Kirsten!
spies6ellis (8:52:02 PM): Nice to finally see you, lol
spies6Kirsten (8:52:10 PM): yes, indeed.
spies6Kirsten (8:52:20 PM): You're one of the few stragglers I haven't spoken with yet
spies6ellis (8:52:33 PM): "straggler"? I'm so wounded.
spies6Kirsten (8:52:36 PM): well, actually I guess there's still a few more
spies6Kirsten (8:52:49 PM): is that why you were a straggler, from your wounds?
spies6ellis (8:52:51 PM): Well I'm in the same position, I normally can't get online this late
spies6ellis (8:52:58 PM): and this seems to be when most people come on.
spies6Kirsten (8:53:02 PM): ah, I normally can't get on any earlier =/
spies6ellis (8:53:14 PM): Oh well, let's make the most of it.
spies6Kirsten (8:53:45 PM): I have a question for you: Why did you try to get Jaya to vote for Alma?
spies6ellis (8:54:02 PM): Straight down to business eh? I like that.
spies6ellis (8:54:05 PM): To answer:
spies6ellis (8:54:10 PM): because I thought Alma and Paris were framing her
spies6Kirsten (8:54:11 PM):
spies6ellis (8:54:20 PM): and I didn't want to take the chance of Jocelyn going instead of one of those two.
spies6Kirsten (8:54:22 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (8:54:40 PM): makes sense
spies6Kirsten (8:54:56 PM): did you suspect jaya after that, based on her jocelyn vote?
spies6ellis (8:55:01 PM): Not at all
spies6ellis (8:55:12 PM): I actually told Rey that I'd do something nasty to him if he voted her this time
spies6ellis (8:55:22 PM): I was so convinced she was being framed by the spies.
spies6Kirsten (8:55:22 PM): hehe
spies6ellis (8:55:41 PM): I suspected her right at the start, but not after the Alma case was put to me
spies6Kirsten (8:55:51 PM): rey mentioned that he got scared off of voting for her
spies6ellis (8:55:57 PM): lol
spies6Kirsten (8:55:57 PM): I guess you were the muscle behind all that
spies6ellis (8:56:08 PM): I don't think I'm the muscle behind anything much.
spies6Kirsten (8:56:13 PM): hehe
spies6ellis (8:56:20 PM): Well I did get a few people to minus vote Levi
spies6ellis (8:56:25 PM): which I guess you were really happy about.
spies6Kirsten (8:56:30 PM): I was trhilled!
spies6Kirsten (8:56:38 PM): I also fail at typing
spies6ellis (8:56:38 PM): Do you still suspect him?
spies6ellis (8:56:43 PM): lol
spies6Kirsten (8:56:48 PM): yes, I do. Although not as much as you might think
spies6ellis (8:56:59 PM): well I'm undecided, but I've told him I have his back.
spies6ellis (8:57:08 PM): My feeling is if he's a citizen, he'll need the support
spies6ellis (8:57:24 PM): and if he's a spy, there's no harm in letting him think he's got at least one person he can be a little more open and honest with.
spies6Kirsten (8:58:05 PM): did you vote for Paris?
spies6ellis (8:58:13 PM): 100% yes.
spies6Kirsten (8:58:13 PM): I'm assuming that's a yes based on you thinking he framed jaya
spies6Kirsten (8:58:16 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (8:58:19 PM): Not just that.
spies6ellis (8:58:27 PM): he completely gave himself away over the Alma lynch, that was soooo obvious
spies6Kirsten (8:58:40 PM): I'm interested in whether he thought she as a spy or not.
spies6ellis (8:58:42 PM): That's why I minused Levi
spies6Kirsten (8:58:49 PM): something to ask him in the postgame
spies6ellis (8:58:56 PM): I think he was pretty certain after the night before Alma's exile, we all were
spies6ellis (8:59:08 PM): I mean, Alma gave herself away there just as much as Paris did
spies6Kirsten (8:59:23 PM): hmm...he was in agreement that she was a spy, but then kind of went the other way?
spies6ellis (8:59:23 PM): She kept talking in different language, like she was being coached by someone
spies6ellis (8:59:28 PM): I thought it was Paris, but I guess not
spies6Kirsten (8:59:37 PM): probably not Jaya either
spies6Kirsten (8:59:45 PM): she didn't seem very knowledgable
spies6ellis (8:59:56 PM): Jaya didn't seem to know which way was up that night
spies6ellis (9:00:05 PM): I could've sworn she had no help
spies6Kirsten (9:00:08 PM): she was probably confused over whether or not she should support alma
spies6ellis (9:00:17 PM): That's probably it
spies6ellis (9:00:23 PM): Anyway, it was a total misread on my part.
spies6Kirsten (9:00:45 PM): no problems. I'm a firm believer that wrong is not the same as scummy
spies6ellis (9:01:05 PM): I guess that depends on what Levi and Yvette are.
spies6ellis (9:01:08 PM): by the way i have a question:
spies6Kirsten (9:01:10 PM): sure
spies6ellis (9:01:20 PM): Yvette seemed awfully keen to take credit for the Jaya lynch the other night
spies6ellis (9:01:24 PM): how much was she behind it really?
spies6Kirsten (9:01:27 PM): I have no idea
spies6Kirsten (9:01:31 PM): I'm trying to determine that myself
spies6Kirsten (9:01:51 PM): last episode I was really busy, and only really had 1 night to read up on everything and decide my vote
spies6Kirsten (9:02:05 PM): at the time I voted, Thor, Ariel, Yvette were all planning on voting other people
spies6ellis (9:02:16 PM): Ahh.
spies6Kirsten (9:02:26 PM): nothing was discussed on the burg, but they all voted Jaya. I've been trying to determine who masterminded that as well, and who was a follower, etc.
spies6ellis (9:02:26 PM): So they seemed to switch?
spies6Kirsten (9:02:39 PM): yeah, they all swapped last minute I guess
spies6ellis (9:02:39 PM): Interesting, because you'd think the spies wouldn't do that.
spies6ellis (9:02:46 PM): You'd think they'd go the other way.
spies6ellis (9:02:58 PM): I mean, Gretchen was within one vote of being exiled
spies6Kirsten (9:03:00 PM): I'm inclined to believe the people on the Jaya lynch are citizens unless I hear otherwise
spies6Kirsten (9:03:10 PM): well, 2 votes I think with rey's -vote
spies6Kirsten (9:03:15 PM): but yeah
spies6ellis (9:03:15 PM): Unfortunately i can't say the same about the people on the paris lynch
spies6Kirsten (9:03:22 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (9:03:26 PM): but the Alma one, we had two spies and a traitor
spies6Kirsten (9:03:32 PM): with him being a traitor, the spies were probably all to happy to be on board
spies6ellis (9:03:33 PM): I think that's all the scumminess in our old team
spies6Kirsten (9:03:41 PM): i agree
spies6Kirsten (9:04:02 PM): I think we're looking at spies from the other two teams at this point
spies6ellis (9:04:20 PM): Which means one of the people I'm closest two is probably going to get imprisoned this episode
spies6ellis (9:04:22 PM): if it isn't me.
spies6ellis (9:04:52 PM): Jason, Jenya, Rey, Tibby... any of those would be a huge loss in my opinion
spies6Kirsten (9:05:23 PM): I haven't seen much of Jason.
spies6ellis (9:05:29 PM): He's not around online that much
spies6ellis (9:05:38 PM): but he's very perceptive, he was the first one to openly accuse Alma as far as I know
spies6ellis (9:05:42 PM): and that might be held against him
spies6Kirsten (9:05:53 PM): or Tibby either, but I would be surprised if there is another spy from your team, both from the number caught from that team already in addition to how easy Almathea got exiled.
spies6ellis (9:06:21 PM): So that means that one of the other two teams
spies6ellis (9:06:24 PM): has three spies on it.
spies6Kirsten (9:06:44 PM): I woudln't be surprised if it's my team
spies6ellis (9:06:46 PM): And I'm not ruling out a second traitor either, nine would be a nice round number when there are three teams at the start.
spies6ellis (9:06:53 PM): Who's on your team? And what are they like?
spies6Kirsten (9:07:08 PM): original team: Roxy, Gretchen, Boris, Levi, Oswald, Donald
spies6Kirsten (9:07:13 PM): Mei Yun, Georgia
spies6Kirsten (9:07:36 PM): amelia and william
spies6ellis (9:07:49 PM): Yes, there's a couple of good suspects there
spies6ellis (9:08:08 PM): The only ones I really haven't talked to are William, Georgia, Gretchen and Donald
spies6Kirsten (9:08:08 PM): I think Roxy/Georgia are citizens
spies6ellis (9:08:19 PM): Georgia I don't know but Roxy I agree
spies6Kirsten (9:08:38 PM): I'd lean citizen on Oswald, Mei Yun
spies6Kirsten (9:08:45 PM): although I'm wary of both.
spies6Kirsten (9:08:58 PM): and donald as well, I'd lean citizen on.
spies6ellis (9:09:01 PM): Mei Yun is an interesting case... she's either a very good spy or a very active citizen
spies6ellis (9:09:04 PM): That's the read I get
spies6ellis (9:09:14 PM): I can't work out which yet.
spies6ellis (9:09:42 PM): So your suspects would be Amelia, William, Boris and Levi primarily?
spies6Kirsten (9:09:46 PM): I can't read her very well at all
spies6Kirsten (9:09:58 PM): Amelia is someone I have no clue on
spies6ellis (9:10:10 PM): I suspected her at the Paris lynch because she was defending him
spies6Kirsten (9:10:12 PM): she voted me the first episode but I have not talked with her a single time this game
spies6ellis (9:10:16 PM): but then he turned out to be a traitro, not a spy
spies6Kirsten (9:10:20 PM): yeah, I heard that from someone else.
spies6Kirsten (9:10:33 PM): mirela I think
spies6ellis (9:10:39 PM): Yes Mirela was there
spies6Kirsten (9:10:44 PM): did she haev reasons for believing he was a citizen?
spies6ellis (9:10:46 PM): But yes, Amelia did vote for Paris in the end
spies6ellis (9:10:49 PM): and I don't know why she switched
spies6Kirsten (9:10:51 PM): hm...
spies6ellis (9:10:54 PM): I think she thought Paris was being framed
spies6Kirsten (9:10:56 PM): yeah, that is suspect.
spies6ellis (9:11:08 PM): I never did btw, I thought he'd made a massive mistake and everyone knew it
spies6ellis (9:11:14 PM): and that's why there was so little dissent.
spies6ellis (9:11:35 PM): Paris did a really bad job of defending himself just before exile
spies6ellis (9:11:42 PM): I know a couple of people switched to him on those grounds
spies6Kirsten (9:11:45 PM): it looked like he had a solid defense in thread
spies6ellis (9:11:45 PM): Iris said she did
spies6Kirsten (9:11:51 PM): that's all I saw
spies6ellis (9:12:06 PM): I don't think so, but I'm prejudiced
spies6ellis (9:12:10 PM): I was 90% sure he was scum
spies6Kirsten (9:13:27 PM): so who are you suspicious of now?
spies6Kirsten (9:13:30 PM): did I ask you that already?
spies6ellis (9:13:41 PM): It's not so much who I'm suspicious of
spies6Kirsten (9:13:41 PM): I can't remember, hehe
spies6ellis (9:13:47 PM): it's who I think is a citizen
spies6Kirsten (9:13:52 PM): right
spies6ellis (9:13:54 PM): because I don't know most people enough to say "they're definitely a spy"
spies6ellis (9:14:01 PM): I'll probably go with whoever the people I trust go with
spies6Kirsten (9:14:07 PM): at this point, there's a definite amount of process of elimination
spies6ellis (9:14:36 PM): Well getting a spy in the first episode made it that much easier
spies6Kirsten (9:14:56 PM): oh definitely. Once you get the first spy it's a lot easier after that
spies6Kirsten (9:15:01 PM): interactions mean a lot
spies6ellis (9:15:57 PM): Well I'm going to talk to Faith a bit, but nice to finally meet you
spies6Kirsten (9:16:10 PM): yep, definitely
spies6ellis (9:16:15 PM): I'm glad we talked because you seem like you're making a real effort to find the spies
spies6ellis (9:16:23 PM): which makes me a lot more secure about you
spies6Kirsten (9:16:23 PM): I'm trying at least
spies6Kirsten (9:16:26 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (9:28:31 PM): if you're still here, could you PM me the chat where Amelia discusses Paris being framed? I'd like to read it.
spies6ellis (9:28:45 PM): ok
spies6ellis (9:35:41 PM): ok I'm sending that conversation to you know
spies6ellis (9:35:47 PM): now
spies6Kirsten (9:36:16 PM): I appreciate it
spies6ellis (9:46:50 PM): ok I've sent it
spies6ellis (9:46:55 PM): Should be in your inbox.
spies6Kirsten (9:47:30 PM): thanks
spies6ellis (9:48:34 PM): Good night, I'm off to eat something
spies6Kirsten (9:48:49 PM): alright. Good night ellis. Hopefully I'll see you again sometime
spies6ellis (9:49:00 PM): Hope so, it's been an interesting chat.
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[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:50:53 PM): Hi Roxy
spies6Roxy (8:51:33 PM): heya
spies6Kirsten (8:52:05 PM): how are you doing?
spies6Roxy (8:52:14 PM): im good
spies6Roxy (8:52:16 PM): and you?
spies6Kirsten (8:53:15 PM): I'm great
spies6Kirsten (8:54:06 PM): so what are your thoughts right now? Who do you suspect?
spies6Roxy (8:54:32 PM): well
spies6Roxy (8:54:55 PM): i guess mei a little still since she hasnt talked to me since that fight thing we had.
spies6Roxy (8:55:05 PM): yvette is a little suspicious too
spies6Kirsten (8:55:16 PM): why on Yvette?
spies6Roxy (8:55:21 PM): well.
spies6Roxy (8:55:34 PM): why did yvette change her mind from voting georgia/
spies6Kirsten (8:57:03 PM): I'm not sure the exact details of that
spies6Kirsten (8:57:09 PM): I haven't seen her or Ariel online to ask them either
spies6Roxy (8:57:19 PM): thats why i am a little suspicious
spies6Roxy (8:57:37 PM): i thought maybe she just went with the bandwagon if she knew jaya would be eliminate
spies6Roxy (8:57:39 PM): d
spies6Kirsten (8:57:51 PM): perhaps. I want to see who led that, who followed, etc.
spies6Roxy (8:57:59 PM): yeah.
spies6Roxy (8:58:32 PM): gabriela said something weird like "Take advantage of your second chance" or something
spies6Roxy (8:58:38 PM): it was kind of an odd statement
spies6Kirsten (9:00:26 PM): she said that to jaya?
spies6Roxy (9:00:50 PM): no to me
spies6Kirsten (9:01:04 PM): when did she say that? last episode?
spies6Roxy (9:01:14 PM): um like beginning of this episode
spies6Roxy (9:01:24 PM): because we hadnt talked
spies6Roxy (9:02:13 PM): spies6Gabriela (8:42:10 PM): well, you got a rare second chance, so make it count
spies6Kirsten (9:04:18 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (9:04:25 PM): what do you think about it?
spies6Roxy (9:04:45 PM): i thought it was a sugared up way of being threatening
spies6Roxy (9:04:51 PM): but i could have taken it out of context

[Kirsten]

spies15Qi (10:00:24 PM): ahi!!!!
spies6Kirsten (10:00:40 PM): hi
spies15Qi (10:00:50 PM): qi leave soon but qi must warn you
spies6Kirsten (10:00:50 PM): how's the 15th edition of this game treating you?
spies6Kirsten (10:00:57 PM): ooh, a warning!
spies15Qi (10:00:58 PM): 15th game very exciting!!!!!
spies15Qi (10:01:04 PM): very very
spies15Qi (10:01:13 PM): sam work for chinese government
spies15Qi (10:01:16 PM): game not game
spies15Qi (10:01:17 PM): game REAL
spies15Qi (10:01:26 PM): winner get to be spy
spies6Kirsten (10:01:32 PM): is that where he gets his slave labor from?
spies6Kirsten (10:01:39 PM): I knew there was something untrustworthy
spies15Qi (10:01:51 PM): (o.O)
spies6Kirsten (10:01:51 PM): so why are you warning me? Do I win!
spies15Qi (10:02:09 PM): person you try to exile in ep 8 mistake
spies15Qi (10:02:13 PM): ruin game
spies6Kirsten (10:02:31 PM): I'll keep that in mind, but now that I know that, what if the person we change it to is the person that ruins the game...
spies15Qi (10:02:39 PM): careful must ~~~~~ (*_*)
spies6Kirsten (10:02:39 PM): so tough to know!
spies15Qi (10:03:06 PM): no worry because you do ok and in future game you almost beat qi
spies15Qi (10:03:24 PM): but player in ep 8 make problem
spies6Kirsten (10:03:25 PM): hmm...maybe I'll have to do something to change it so I do beat you
spies6Kirsten (10:03:40 PM): who is that player, let's just kill them now, right?
spies15Qi (10:03:43 PM): nonononono qi not here for you beat qi no no~~~!!!
spies15Qi (10:03:55 PM): you see
spies15Qi (10:03:57 PM): you see soon
spies15Qi (10:04:03 PM): bye@@@
spies6Kirsten (10:04:06 PM): hehe,

[Kirsten]

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spies6Kirsten (8:49:27 PM): LAME
spies6Kirsten (8:49:35 PM): so many online and only 4 in here?
spies6Kirsten (8:49:40 PM): a disappointment
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spies15Qi (5:03:01 PM): it work!!!!!~~~~
spies9felix (5:03:05 PM): this chat room is like totally pathetic!
spies15Qi (5:03:09 PM): wait
spies15Qi (5:03:11 PM): felix?
spies15Qi (5:03:16 PM): how u get here to?
spies6levi (5:03:27 PM): WTF?
spies15Qi (5:03:33 PM): this my plan not urs!!!!!
spies15Qi (5:03:40 PM): somethin go bad
spies6levi (5:03:46 PM): Ummmm, who are you?
spies9felix (5:03:48 PM): oh u stfu
spies6levi (5:03:53 PM): Me?
spies15Qi (5:03:59 PM): i qi best player of spies 15
spies9felix (5:04:12 PM): ur name is not qi
spies9felix (5:04:13 PM): it's queef
spies9felix (5:04:16 PM): get it rite plz
spies15Qi (5:04:21 PM): felix i remember
spies15Qi (5:04:27 PM): you lose spies 9 hehe
spies6levi (5:04:29 PM): Seriously, what the heck is going on here?
spies15Qi (5:04:40 PM): you spy
spies9felix (5:04:43 PM): whatever i lost but the spies still won so
spies9felix (5:04:50 PM): its ok u tart
spies9felix (5:05:06 PM): go back to china plz kthx!
spies6levi (5:05:07 PM): So, how was Spies 9?
spies15Qi (5:05:17 PM): not as good as spy 6
spies15Qi (5:05:25 PM): spy 6 end with big big surprise
spies9felix (5:05:28 PM): its way better than this shitfest
spies9felix (5:05:33 PM): like srsly
spies6levi (5:05:41 PM): What kind of a surprise, if I may ask?
spies15Qi (5:06:01 PM): give surprise answer? no
spies9felix (5:06:06 PM): oh i forgot about that queef
spies6levi (5:06:16 PM): It was worth a shot, wasn't it?
spies15Qi (5:06:50 PM): hehe
spies6levi (5:07:03 PM): So are either of you Spies 6 players from the future?
spies9felix (5:07:21 PM): wtf r u talking about im from spies 9
spies15Qi (5:07:27 PM): i spy 15 player
spies6levi (5:07:50 PM): I realize this
spies9felix (5:07:58 PM): oh wow ur like so smart
spies6levi (5:08:00 PM): So, is this the first time you've visited this chat?
spies15Qi (5:08:11 PM): qi must leave goodbyetoplayers
spies15Qi (5:08:16 PM) has left the room.
spies9felix (5:08:27 PM): its like my first time sam was holding me hostage
spies6thor (5:08:31 PM): i... what!?
spies9felix (5:08:36 PM): and wouldnt let me come back till nowsies
spies6levi (5:08:44 PM): Thor, my thoughts exactly?
spies6levi (5:08:57 PM): When did he take you hostage?
spies9felix (5:09:21 PM): well i decided to come back on my own but he kept us hidden till like
spies9felix (5:09:24 PM): ten minutes ago
spies6levi (5:09:30 PM): Did he now?
spies9felix (5:09:46 PM): idk hes silly anyway
spies6levi (5:09:52 PM): Would you have anything to do with the challenge coming up tomorrow and sunday?
spies6thor (5:09:54 PM): so you were a spy, huh?
spies6thor (5:10:01 PM): exactly my thoughts, levi.
spies9felix (5:10:10 PM): i was in my season until those cunts exiled me
spies6levi (5:10:21 PM): Who were they?
spies6levi (5:10:23 PM): Any names?
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spies6Kirsten (6:15:07 PM): hello?
spies6jason (6:15:34 PM): Hi Kirsten
spies6oswald (6:15:44 PM): hi kirsten
spies6levi (6:15:49 PM): Kirsten, heard the news?
spies6Kirsten (6:16:03 PM): no\
spies6Kirsten (6:16:11 PM): what news?
spies6levi (6:16:15 PM): The visitors
spies6levi (6:16:24 PM): spies9felix
spies6Kirsten (6:16:27 PM): sounds like a bad sci-fi
spies6levi (6:16:29 PM): spies10spike
spies6levi (6:16:33 PM): spies15Qi
spies6jason (6:16:35 PM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (6:16:58 PM): ok...
spies6Kirsten (6:17:15 PM): what's the deal?
spies6Kirsten (6:17:26 PM): just future week shenanigans, or is there more?
spies6oswald (6:17:41 PM): we think we will ahve to compete against them
spies6levi (6:17:55 PM): Because the challenge board says
spies6levi (6:17:58 PM): Fight the future
spies6Kirsten (6:19:03 PM): haha, nice
spies6Kirsten (6:19:29 PM): spies9felix needs to lose
spies6mirela (6:19:37 PM): ahah
spies6mirela (6:19:45 PM): hello kirsten
spies6oswald (6:19:47 PM): i agree
spies6levi (6:19:48 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (6:20:02 PM): hey mirela
spies6Kirsten (6:20:09 PM): I don't think I've spoken with you yet
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spies6Kirsten (6:20:47 PM): I wonder if they are aligned or what?
spies6rey (6:21:25 PM): they aren't aligned, haha.
spies6mirela (6:21:40 PM): they are so weird
spies6mirela (6:21:43 PM): brb
spies6Kirsten (6:22:42 PM): I wonder what happens if we lose the fight wih the future
spies6rey (6:22:57 PM): we are fighting with the future?
spies6levi (6:22:59 PM): *shudders*
spies6rey (6:23:01 PM): o.O
spies6levi (6:23:01 PM): Lets just hope we don't'
spies6levi (6:23:07 PM): Oh, Rey's here!
spies6rey (6:23:18 PM): ouch levi.
spies6rey (6:23:27 PM): thanks for noticing me.
spies6rey (6:23:32 PM): *sulks in a corner*
spies6levi (6:23:35 PM): Your welcome
spies6Kirsten (6:23:37 PM): it's ok, just ignore him, it's fine, really
spies6rey (6:23:44 PM): LOLbitch screw you.
spies6levi (6:23:47 PM): Well, if you insist . . .
spies6rey (6:23:51 PM): how do you guys know we are fighting the future anyways?
spies6levi (6:23:59 PM): Its in the description
spies6levi (6:24:01 PM): of the challenge board
spies6rey (6:24:03 PM): really?
spies6rey (6:24:04 PM): oh okay!
spies6levi (6:24:05 PM): Yea
spies6rey (6:24:07 PM): *goes to read*
spies6rey (6:24:30 PM): OMG
spies6rey (6:24:38 PM): we have to fight the future!
spies6rey (6:24:40 PM): *just notices*
spies6Kirsten (6:24:52 PM): I wonder if anyone is secretly fighting for the future
spies6rey (6:25:24 PM): yeah, i'm a...
spies6rey (6:25:26 PM): uhhh..
spies6rey (6:25:30 PM): space monkey.
spies6rey (6:25:34 PM): i'm aligned with the future.
spies6rey (6:25:43 PM): i win when all threats to me are gone.
spies6rey (6:25:44 PM):
spies6Kirsten (6:25:45 PM): years from now, I will exile you
spies6rey (6:25:51 PM): hah!
spies6rey (6:25:58 PM): after you are imprisoned by me.
spies6Kirsten (6:26:19 PM): I go back in time to get imprisoned by you, so that it can frame you so I can later exile you
spies6rey (6:26:27 PM): D:
spies6Kirsten (6:26:31 PM): it's all a plot
spies6rey (6:26:39 PM): as long as nobody votes me for two rounds (which has already happened) i get two free imprisonments.
spies6rey (6:26:46 PM): so i'll just imprison you again in the future !
spies6rey (6:26:49 PM): >
spies6Kirsten (6:27:05 PM): ah, the multiple imprisonment theory
spies6levi (6:27:07 PM): Ugh
spies6levi (6:27:14 PM): This is gettiing as confusing as Lost
spies6rey (6:27:20 PM): just kidding that isn't my role.
spies6rey (6:27:24 PM): my role is much much better.
spies6rey (6:27:25 PM):
spies6Kirsten (6:27:25 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (6:27:29 PM): I think rey was serious
spies6rey (6:27:35 PM): shhh......
spies6rey (6:27:39 PM): you role fishing?
spies6rey (6:27:42 PM): ):<
spies6Kirsten (6:27:44 PM): he claimed space monkey. I can't see citizens with that role, so he's a spy
spies6rey (6:27:56 PM): =/
spies6rey (6:28:01 PM): but i'm aligned with the future
spies6Kirsten (6:28:04 PM): I'll role fish in the future
spies6rey (6:28:10 PM): so basically i'm aligned with you..
spies6rey (6:28:13 PM): in the future.
spies6rey (6:28:15 PM): -_-
spies6Kirsten (6:28:20 PM): but right now, we're not aligned
spies6Kirsten (6:28:30 PM): so let's get rid of you now, to prevent future alignings
spies6rey (6:28:49 PM): kirsten, you and me both know that you got the spy role message.
spies6rey (6:28:57 PM): it says so in the spy forum.
spies6Kirsten (6:29:08 PM): no, but I did get the complimentary spy role massage.
spies6Kirsten (6:29:15 PM): and it was very relaxing
spies6rey (6:29:19 PM): fuck. i wanted that.
spies6rey (6:29:34 PM): levi, can i have a complimentary spy role massage? =D ?
spies6Kirsten (6:29:42 PM): 1 time use
spies6Kirsten (6:29:45 PM): sorry rey
spies6rey (6:29:48 PM): /sob
spies6Kirsten (6:29:51 PM): first come first serve
spies6rey (6:29:56 PM): damn you levi !
spies6levi (6:30:41 PM): What, Kirsten told me to ignore you?
spies6Kirsten (6:30:48 PM): I did say that
spies6Kirsten (6:30:51 PM): That did happen.
spies6levi (6:31:03 PM): And besides, the Complimentary Spy Role Massage
spies6levi (6:31:09 PM): Is something I only give
spies6levi (6:31:13 PM): To the Cool Spies
spies6Kirsten (6:31:21 PM): mmm...you heard it here first
spies6levi (6:31:27 PM): Hey, why haven't I gottne one yet?
spies6Kirsten (6:31:36 PM): uhh...yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:31:40 PM): about that, levi
spies6Kirsten (6:31:57 PM): well...we were...ugh...this is hard
spies6levi (6:32:23 PM): It's ok
spies6levi (6:32:25 PM): I can take it
spies6Kirsten (6:32:48 PM): not me, obviously, but some of the other spies think you might be slightly less than "cool" if you catch my drift.
spies6levi (6:33:29 PM): WHAT?
spies6levi (6:33:39 PM): THAT YVETTE THINKS SHE"S COOLER THAN ME???
spies6levi (6:33:50 PM): I OUGHTTTTAAAA GIVE HER A PICE OF MY MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies6levi (6:33:56 PM): *piece
spies6rey (6:34:00 PM): dammit.
spies6rey (6:34:05 PM): yvette leaves us out of everything.
spies6rey (6:34:07 PM): /sob
spies6Kirsten (6:34:15 PM): I'm not going to name any names, or point any fingers...but, the phrase "castrating the dumb males" did come up.
spies6levi (6:34:28 PM):
spies6levi (6:35:25 PM): Alright Rey
spies6levi (6:35:30 PM): We're making our own Spy group
spies6levi (6:35:39 PM): We'll call it . . . Dominant Male Spies
spies6rey (6:35:41 PM): YEAH!
spies6rey (6:35:41 PM): OKAY
spies6rey (6:35:44 PM): good name!
spies6levi (6:35:52 PM): First order of business:
spies6rey (6:35:55 PM): yvette will try to imprison us, but it's 'kay.
spies6levi (6:35:56 PM): Imprisoning Yvette
spies6levi (6:36:08 PM): Don't worry, as the obviously superior Spies
spies6levi (6:36:13 PM): We have Imprisonment Immunity
spies6levi (6:36:21 PM): And Exile Immunity
spies6Kirsten (6:36:33 PM): hah, but there is no castration immunity
spies6Kirsten (6:36:39 PM): so even if you win you still lose!
spies6rey (6:36:48 PM): D:
spies6rey (6:36:53 PM): you are eeeeviiiil.
spies6levi (6:36:54 PM): *gulp*
spies6levi (6:37:01 PM): That's not even any kind of right
spies6Kirsten (6:37:05 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (6:37:08 PM):
spies6levi (6:37:12 PM): Seriously, that's cruel and unusual right there
spies6Kirsten (6:37:23 PM): you should file a writ of habeus corpus
spies6levi (6:37:34 PM): No
spies6levi (6:37:43 PM): Habeus corpus means "bring forth the body"
spies6Kirsten (6:37:51 PM): hehe
spies6levi (6:37:53 PM): That would be surrendering
spies6Kirsten (6:37:59 PM): and..?
spies6Kirsten (6:38:04 PM): is there a problem with that?
spies6levi (6:38:12 PM): I don't like getting snipped
spies6rey (6:38:15 PM): yvette will be behind a kirsten lynch
spies6levi (6:38:17 PM): If you know what I mean
spies6rey (6:38:17 PM): shit wrong chat
spies6Kirsten (6:38:19 PM): fair enough
spies6rey (6:38:21 PM): xD
spies6levi (6:38:21 PM): THat's a horrible idea
spies6levi (6:38:24 PM): LOL @ Rey
spies6Kirsten (6:38:47 PM): rey, you forgot to leave the chat immediately afterward
spies6rey (6:38:54 PM): OH
spies6rey (6:38:56 PM): right
spies6rey (6:38:56 PM): bye
spies6Kirsten (6:38:58 PM): tsk tsk
spies6rey (6:39:09 PM): i really have to go though
spies6rey (6:39:11 PM): cyaa~
spies6rey (6:39:17 PM): post all future conversations in the thread
spies6rey (6:39:19 PM): kthxbb
spies6rey (6:39:22 PM) has left the room.
spies6levi (6:39:24 PM): Cya Rey!
spies6levi (6:39:33 PM): Now I can't scheme and plot with my Spy buddy
spies6Kirsten (6:39:40 PM): looks like team awesome male is now just 1 member
spies6levi (6:39:51 PM): And I don't want to lose that member!
spies6Kirsten (6:39:55 PM): hehe
spies6levi (6:40:04 PM): See what I did thar?
spies6Kirsten (6:40:27 PM): you don't want anyone to extract vengeance?
spies6Kirsten (6:40:35 PM): would rather not be cut off from your spy buds?
spies6levi (6:41:09 PM): I don't want my Spy buds gone
spies6levi (6:41:13 PM): And I don't want my member done
spies6Kirsten (6:41:58 PM): meh, I did get the free massage. I will be merciful
spies6levi (6:42:00 PM): er, member gone
spies6Kirsten (6:42:39 PM): on a more (or actually, probably less) serious note, who do you suspect right now?
spies6levi (6:44:15 PM): Yvette, to be honest
spies6levi (6:44:19 PM): Sorry that that took a while
spies6levi (6:44:28 PM): Was doing something related to another site
spies6levi (6:44:36 PM): I cannot say what without compromising my identity
spies6Kirsten (6:44:42 PM): ok
spies6levi (6:44:48 PM): And you?
spies6levi (6:44:54 PM): Oh gee, I wonder who you're gonna say
spies6levi (6:44:58 PM):
spies6Kirsten (6:45:08 PM): yourself to some extent. Faith, Boris, Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (6:45:29 PM): William as well
spies6levi (6:45:41 PM): That's a varied list
spies6Kirsten (6:45:47 PM): yeah
spies6levi (6:45:58 PM): brb
spies6Kirsten (6:46:13 PM): I don't have any strong "this person is obviously scum" suspects right now.
spies6levi (6:54:06 PM): back
spies6Kirsten (6:54:15 PM): welcome back
spies6levi (6:54:21 PM): So you're not 100% convinced its me?
spies6levi (6:54:23 PM): Yay!
spies6Kirsten (6:54:26 PM): actually, no.
spies6levi (6:54:50 PM): I want our record of catching Spies to keep going
spies6levi (6:54:59 PM): I don't want it interupted by a Cit Levi lycnh
spies6Kirsten (6:55:03 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (6:55:37 PM): Do you have any reasons to suspect Yvette besides those that cannot be spoken of?
spies6levi (6:56:27 PM): There are none that cannot be spoken of
spies6levi (6:56:32 PM): 1. Callahan
spies6oswald (6:56:35 PM): sorry guys back for a bit
spies6levi (6:56:45 PM): 2. She bandwagoned very quickly on the case you posted against me.
spies6levi (6:56:55 PM): 3. When Sam said that Paris was not a Citizen
spies6levi (6:57:01 PM): She acted EXTREMELY surprised
spies6levi (6:57:15 PM): Almost as if she knew who were the Spies were, and he wasn't one of them
spies6levi (6:57:18 PM): Check the Exile chat log
spies6Kirsten (6:57:41 PM): yeah, I've read that
spies6Kirsten (6:57:48 PM): both her and William gave a "what?" response
spies6Kirsten (6:57:53 PM): to the "not a citizen"
spies6levi (6:58:01 PM): William did too?
spies6levi (6:58:04 PM): Didn't notice that
spies6Kirsten (6:58:12 PM): yeah, and maybe 1 other...I'll have to recheck
spies6levi (6:58:14 PM): But then again, I'm not the most observant player
spies6Kirsten (6:58:31 PM): or maybe that is what you want us to believe?
spies6Kirsten (6:58:35 PM): hmmmm??\
spies6Kirsten (6:59:08 PM): sorry, I realize I misinterpreted. I thought your reasons for suspicing Yvette was stuff that couldn't be named, not your offsite stuff
spies6Kirsten (6:59:18 PM): anyway, that clears up my confusion there.
spies6levi (6:59:33 PM): No, Lol
spies6oswald (6:59:39 PM): ah the Yvette Case, ha
spies6Kirsten (6:59:52 PM): as for 1. what about callahan makes you think she's a spy? Was it simply that she was wrong?
spies6Kirsten (7:00:15 PM): as for 2, she had expressed suspicion of you beforehand, although in private chats, so I don't think that's a huge tell.
spies6levi (7:00:26 PM): Just how overly confident she was about Callahan
spies6levi (7:00:34 PM): She seemed certain he was a Spy
spies6levi (7:00:38 PM): Rey wasn't certain about Alma
spies6levi (7:00:42 PM): We weren't certain abotu Roxy
spies6Kirsten (7:00:45 PM): do you think she was feigning confidence to seem citizen?
spies6levi (7:00:50 PM): She was certain about Callahan
spies6oswald (7:01:09 PM): Yvette is just pretty CERTAIN in general, ha
spies6levi (7:01:14 PM): True Oswald
spies6levi (7:01:18 PM): Feigning confidence?
spies6levi (7:01:28 PM): I know what it means
spies6levi (7:01:38 PM): I just odn't think that's what I'm trying to say
spies6Kirsten (7:01:56 PM): are you arguing that she was faking her confidence in callahan being a spy in order to look like a citizen who thought they had caught a spy?
spies6Kirsten (7:02:05 PM): or is it something else?
spies6levi (7:02:16 PM): That's basically what I'm trying to say yes
spies6levi (7:02:24 PM): Sorry, your mind works a bit differently than mine does
spies6Kirsten (7:02:31 PM): hehe
spies6levi (7:02:55 PM): Like when you ask a question, you may be saying the same thing I'm saying, just in a different way than I would have said it
spies6levi (7:03:02 PM): Not saying anyone's wrong, jsut pointing out a fact
spies6Kirsten (7:03:09 PM): yeah, I know what you mean.
spies6Kirsten (7:03:20 PM): and, naturally, it means you're a spy...but alas.
spies6Kirsten (7:03:48 PM): I guess that's similar to my suspicion of gretchen
spies6levi (7:03:52 PM): Takes one to know one
spies6Kirsten (7:04:04 PM): I felt like she was overstating the need to exile Roxy
spies6oswald (7:04:06 PM): oh gretchen.
spies9felix (7:04:17 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (7:04:25 PM): oh oswald...what do you think about Gretchen?
spies6levi (7:04:42 PM): Felix!!!!!!!!!!!
spies6levi (7:04:50 PM): We've been talkign about you
spies9felix (7:04:52 PM): hey bs
spies9felix (7:04:53 PM): i mean bs
spies6oswald (7:04:56 PM): that's just it Kirsten
spies9felix (7:04:57 PM): i mean BBS
spies9felix (7:04:58 PM): lol
spies6oswald (7:05:03 PM): there is NOTHING to think about Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (7:05:06 PM): i've heard you lose in spies 9
spies6oswald (7:05:08 PM): she slips in and out and barely speaks to anyone
spies9felix (7:05:09 PM): gretchens a fat oaf
spies9felix (7:05:11 PM): exile her plz
spies6Kirsten (7:05:22 PM): as good a reason as any
spies6levi (7:05:26 PM): LOL
spies9felix (7:05:47 PM): and yeah kirsten i did ut
spies9felix (7:05:52 PM): i looked good doing it at least
spies6Kirsten (7:06:12 PM): isn't that all that matters?
spies6Kirsten (7:06:21 PM): who cares if you win, as long as you look excellent
spies9felix (7:06:24 PM): pretty much
spies9felix (7:06:27 PM): i mean if i looked like you
spies9felix (7:06:31 PM): i'd proably kill myself lmao
spies6oswald (7:06:33 PM): well felix you don't look good
spies6levi (7:06:44 PM): Truer words never spoken
spies6Kirsten (7:06:46 PM): I tried it, but jason took my razors to cut his own wrists
spies9felix (7:06:53 PM): oh go back to your hole oswald
spies6Kirsten (7:06:55 PM): sad times
spies9felix (7:07:07 PM): you should have just beaten his ass
spies6Kirsten (7:07:12 PM): oh, I did
spies6Kirsten (7:07:18 PM): but he liked it
spies9felix (7:07:22 PM):
spies6Kirsten (7:07:25 PM): so...what can you do
spies6oswald (7:07:34 PM): i already went to my hole one too many times.
spies9felix (7:07:50 PM): oswald do you have downs syndrome?
spies9felix (7:07:53 PM): im just asking
spies6oswald (7:07:57 PM): no
spies6oswald (7:08:00 PM): I have ups syndrome
spies9felix (7:08:02 PM): o
spies9felix (7:08:11 PM): i thought it would explain things
spies6Kirsten (7:08:13 PM): he's got a 32 inch vertical jump
spies9felix (7:08:16 PM): but u just must b hella stupid
spies6levi (7:08:32 PM): WOW
spies6levi (7:08:34 PM): You're mean
spies6levi (7:08:37 PM):
spies9felix (7:08:45 PM): u guys should just exile oswald after fatty gretchen
spies6Kirsten (7:09:04 PM): spies 9 felix lost his game because he was too busy trying to come up with insults that failed
spies9felix (7:09:11 PM): no kirsten
spies6oswald (7:09:13 PM): ha nice one Kirsten
spies9felix (7:09:15 PM): let me correct you dumb whore
spies6oswald (7:09:28 PM): Felix are you coming to us from a hospital bed?
spies6Kirsten (7:09:32 PM): please, educate me
spies9felix (7:09:37 PM): i lost because i made the cute clique and we exiled all the uglies who just *happened* to be citizens
spies9felix (7:09:44 PM): and some dumb citizens got mad right?
spies9felix (7:09:47 PM): and they voted me out
spies9felix (7:09:55 PM): but it was ok since like i didn't want to hang around them anymore u know?
spies6oswald (7:09:57 PM): now who's stupid
spies6Kirsten (7:09:59 PM): I think you're lying to me
spies6Kirsten (7:10:17 PM): how'd you make it into the cute clique? Seems unlikely.
spies9felix (7:10:22 PM): well i think ur an ugly twat so
spies9felix (7:10:25 PM):
spies6oswald (7:10:32 PM): Felix you remind me of those guys at the beginning of Zoolander who play in the gas and blow themselves up
spies9felix (7:10:44 PM): well they were hot
spies6oswald (7:10:50 PM): maybe Felix is giving us a clue from the future that all the "ugly" people in the game are Citizens.
spies6Kirsten (7:10:52 PM): a freak gasoline fight accident
spies9felix (7:10:52 PM): and i didnt mean literally
spies6levi (7:11:05 PM): True
spies6levi (7:11:15 PM): Or maybe Felix got exiled cuz he died from his drugs and anorexia
spies9felix (7:11:27 PM): well if u did coke like me
spies9felix (7:11:32 PM): ud be skinny like me
spies9felix (7:11:38 PM): easy peasy
spies9felix (7:11:56 PM): plus u burn like tons of calories during sex
spies6Kirsten (7:12:42 PM): especially sex with farmyard animals
spies6oswald (7:12:46 PM): ugh i don't want to think of you havig sex
spies6Kirsten (7:12:54 PM): is that how you look so fit?
spies9felix (7:13:17 PM): what is up ur ass kirsten
spies9felix (7:13:22 PM): that is making u a dumb cuntress
spies6levi (7:13:59 PM): Ummm, I am skinny
spies6levi (7:14:09 PM): Well, I'm in shape
spies6levi (7:14:11 PM): I'm not fat
spies9felix (7:14:26 PM): all fat people should just be like
spies9felix (7:14:30 PM): shipped off to a deserted island
spies9felix (7:14:40 PM): so they have to reproduce with themselves and not spread it to the rest of society u kno?
spies6oswald (7:15:00 PM): (Felix used to be fat)
spies6levi (7:15:05 PM): LOL
spies6levi (7:15:08 PM): That would explain it
spies6Kirsten (7:15:16 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (7:15:36 PM): also, I've never heard the term "cuntress" before. I feel like I learned something new today
spies6Kirsten (7:15:42 PM): thank you felix.
spies6oswald (7:15:53 PM): i feel like he just made you the leader of all cunts
spies9felix (7:15:55 PM): ur welcome
spies6levi (7:15:56 PM): You learn something new everyday, right?
spies6Kirsten (7:16:02 PM): maybe
spies6oswald (7:16:09 PM): Kirsten you ar so powerful now
spies6oswald (7:16:15 PM): maybe that can be a role next season...Cuntress
spies6Kirsten (7:16:25 PM): hehe, somehow I doubt that
spies6levi (7:16:29 PM): ROFL
spies6levi (7:16:31 PM): Cuntress
spies9felix (7:16:36 PM): ugh it smells like fucking tuna
spies9felix (7:16:40 PM): kirsten could u plz shut ur legs?
spies6oswald (7:16:43 PM): Close your mouth Felix
spies6levi (7:16:46 PM): Has the power to open her legs each night.
spies6Kirsten (7:16:53 PM): that's not me
spies6levi (7:16:59 PM): The smell will make one player pass out each night.
spies6Kirsten (7:17:03 PM): must be oswald or levi
spies9felix (7:17:05 PM): oh it must be mirela's rank reath
spies6levi (7:17:06 PM): That player can not perform any night actions.
spies6levi (7:17:12 PM): Actually, I'm pretty sure its Rey
spies6levi (7:17:14 PM): Lol, jk
spies9felix (7:17:30 PM): don't make fun of rey he's my bitch
spies9felix (7:17:34 PM): we already fucked in a broom closet
spies6Kirsten (7:17:40 PM): sounds...
spies6Kirsten (7:17:46 PM): actually pretty gross
spies9felix (7:17:48 PM): but he'll deny it if u ask
spies6oswald (7:17:48 PM): ick
spies6Kirsten (7:18:04 PM): what if he agrees?
spies9felix (7:18:21 PM): then i've already whipped him into exactly where i want him
spies6Kirsten (7:18:36 PM): that fast?
spies9felix (7:18:43 PM): kirsten
spies9felix (7:18:46 PM): you haven't seen my dick
spies6Kirsten (7:18:49 PM): I'm not sure whether to be impressed with you, or unimpressed with rey
spies6Kirsten (7:18:52 PM): thankfully
spies6Kirsten (7:18:55 PM): I have not
spies9felix (7:19:03 PM): that's why u wouldnt understand
spies6oswald (7:19:42 PM): well if you are doing coke and are anorexic your dick is nothing to look at
spies6levi (7:19:50 PM): That shriveled, tiny thing?
spies9felix (7:20:11 PM): plz
spies9felix (7:20:19 PM): my elephant dick could knock u all out if i swung it
spies9felix (7:20:28 PM): but i will keep ur safety in mind
spies9felix (7:20:30 PM): and keep it in my pants
spies6oswald (7:20:31 PM): ew elephant, I'll keep my prostate please
spies9felix (7:21:15 PM): oswald i have no idea what you say whenevr u type
spies6levi (7:21:36 PM): Coming from the guy who can't spell "you" or "whenever"
spies9felix (7:21:41 PM): i need a translator
spies9felix (7:21:46 PM): does n e 1 speak idiot here?
spies6levi (7:21:48 PM): I'll translate
spies6levi (7:22:03 PM):
spies9felix (9:20:10 PM): plz

spies9felix (9:20:18 PM): my elephant dick could knock u all out if i swung it

spies9felix (9:20:27 PM): but i will keep ur safety in mind

spies9felix (9:20:29 PM): and keep it in my pants
spies6levi (7:22:20 PM): This tranlsates too
spies9felix (7:22:50 PM): ...?
spies6levi (7:23:14 PM): "I am an in-the-closed gay man with a 3 in dick. Because I am insecure about my sexuality, intelligence, and endowment, I seek to belittle others who actually have a potential benefit to society."
spies6levi (7:23:34 PM): *in-the-closet
spies9felix (7:23:41 PM): ur like so clever levi did you come up with that al by urself?
spies9felix (7:23:46 PM): i am disappointed in u
spies6oswald (7:23:48 PM): yes I think he did
spies6oswald (7:23:52 PM): i am disappointed in the future.
spies9felix (7:23:56 PM): u could have done great things but u r siding with inept uglies
spies6Kirsten (7:24:17 PM): siding with the uglies is apparently how to win
spies6levi (7:24:19 PM): By great things do you mean get into a bed with you?
spies6levi (7:24:24 PM): I'd never do a thing like that
spies6Kirsten (7:24:26 PM): looks like you learned nothing
spies9felix (7:25:11 PM): actually i should hang with ugly people like u guys more often
spies9felix (7:25:15 PM): it'd make me look like way better
spies6oswald (7:25:23 PM): that's impossible.
spies6levi (7:25:28 PM): Only a broken mirror could do that
spies9felix (7:25:32 PM): people would say "look at that gorgeous fierce guy with those ugly skanks"
spies6levi (7:25:34 PM): Or maybe one of those funhouse mirrors
spies9felix (7:25:55 PM): can we make fun of jenya's nose now?
spies6Kirsten (7:25:59 PM): sure
spies6Kirsten (7:26:11 PM): it's bigger than your penis
spies9felix (7:26:16 PM): i'm almost a little jealous of it
spies9felix (7:26:18 PM): since
spies9felix (7:26:23 PM): she could fit a lot of coke in there
spies9felix (7:26:25 PM): in one sniff
spies9felix (7:26:41 PM): but the downside is
spies9felix (7:26:45 PM): u look hella redic
spies6levi (7:26:57 PM): Ok, I can't argue with this
spies6levi (7:27:03 PM): Its huge
spies6levi (7:27:08 PM): But I ahve a theory on this
spies6levi (7:27:10 PM): Spies lie
spies6oswald (7:27:11 PM): its a big schnoz
spies6levi (7:27:17 PM): When Pinochio lied, his nose got bigger
spies6Kirsten (7:27:19 PM): the pinnochio theory?
spies6levi (7:27:20 PM): Coincidence?
spies6levi (7:27:24 PM): I think not!!!!!!!!!!
spies6Kirsten (7:27:37 PM): she started the game with a huge nose. She must have been doing some pregame lying
spies9felix (7:27:55 PM): i want to give her a nose job via a punch 2 the face
spies6levi (7:27:59 PM): Test
spies6Kirsten (7:28:06 PM): failed
spies6levi (7:28:11 PM): Yay, my font isn't obmoxious any more
spies9felix (7:29:19 PM): why does georgia have a dead animal on her head
spies9felix (7:29:27 PM): that shit is not attractive
spies6levi (7:29:40 PM): Oh, so that was that smell!
spies6levi (7:29:48 PM): I just thought Felix opened his legs again
spies9felix (7:31:21 PM): kirsten
spies9felix (7:31:23 PM): do u have a big ass?
spies9felix (7:31:26 PM): u seem like u would
spies6Kirsten (7:31:57 PM): I have a very nice ass, thank you
spies6Kirsten (7:32:14 PM): I don't want to know why you care so much about it
spies9felix (7:32:41 PM): u just seem like a bitch who'd have a fat ass
spies9felix (7:32:44 PM): i was just saying
spies6mirela (7:33:42 PM): i'm back
spies6Kirsten (7:33:54 PM): I think felix is fantasizing over my ass
spies9felix (7:34:19 PM): why would i
spies9felix (7:34:26 PM): it probs looks like cottage cheese
spies6Kirsten (7:34:28 PM): spies9felix (7:13:17 PM): what is up ur ass kirsten
spies6Kirsten (7:34:31 PM): spies9felix (7:31:23 PM): do u have a big ass?
spies6levi (7:34:51 PM): That seems like a logical conclusion
spies6Kirsten (7:34:54 PM): I think so
spies6mirela (7:35:03 PM): oooo
spies9felix (7:35:35 PM): someones getting their extra large panties in a bunch
spies6levi (7:35:51 PM): Yes, Felix is
spies6levi (7:35:54 PM): That's how he gets off
spies6levi (7:36:45 PM): *awkward silence # I lost count*
spies6Kirsten (7:37:01 PM): felix is racking his small brain for a suitable comeback
spies9felix (7:37:15 PM): no im talking with jenya and shes keeping me enterrtainted more than u twats
spies9felix (7:37:19 PM): she has personality
spies6Kirsten (7:37:22 PM): it will take him another 30 seconds, and the comeback will be him calling you a derogatory term
spies6Kirsten (7:37:43 PM): actually, faster than 30 seconds. Impresssive. Although there was the twat call
spies6levi (7:39:24 PM): ROFL
spies6mirela (7:40:10 PM): oh wow
spies9felix (7:40:52 PM): oh mirela i thought u were a mute sweetie pie
spies6levi (7:40:57 PM): WOW
spies6levi (7:41:03 PM): There's a new future player
spies6mirela (7:41:11 PM): oh why hello there felix
spies6mirela (7:41:20 PM): by the way, i love your white hair
spies6mirela (7:41:29 PM): it's sooo bright!
spies6mirela (7:41:41 PM): white is definitely your color
spies6levi (7:41:45 PM): spies11jane
spies9felix (7:42:00 PM): mirela even though ur like really ugly i like u
spies6mirela (7:42:28 PM): aww why thank you
spies9felix (7:42:40 PM): ur like so welcome
spies9felix (7:42:44 PM): maybe i'll give u a makeover
spies9felix (7:42:56 PM): all u need is teeth whitening, an orthodontist, and a face transplant
spies9felix (7:42:58 PM): and voila!
spies6levi (7:43:02 PM): O
spies6levi (7:43:08 PM): I'm reading the Jane post
spies6mirela (7:43:10 PM): as you can see, i'm not very good with my own make up
spies6levi (7:43:11 PM): This is interesting
spies6mirela (7:43:15 PM): xD
spies6Kirsten (7:43:29 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (7:43:40 PM): I read it while felix was taking his sweet time figuring out what to say
spies6mirela (7:43:52 PM): jane looks crazy
spies6levi (7:44:17 PM): This is so epic
spies6levi (7:44:19 PM): I love this twist
spies6oswald (7:44:53 PM): ok so now we have seen people from 9,10,11 and 15
spies6oswald (7:45:03 PM): which leads me to believe we are going to meet 12, 13 and 14 soon
spies6Kirsten (7:45:21 PM): maybe, yeah
spies6levi (7:45:23 PM): What about 7 and 8?
spies6oswald (7:45:34 PM): maybe the host intends on really playing 7 and 8 out
spies6oswald (7:45:36 PM): ha
spies6levi (7:45:37 PM): Someone mentioned something about Spies 7, one of the futurebies
spies6Kirsten (7:45:45 PM): he's probably not oging ot use those for if he...yeah what oswald said
spies6levi (7:46:09 PM): He could if he doesn't use those names
spies6Kirsten (7:47:12 PM): if I play in spies 9, I'm totally going to use felix as my name.
spies6Faith (7:47:22 PM) has entered the room.
spies6oswald (7:47:25 PM): did your guys bored just change completely?
spies6Faith (7:47:35 PM): Hi everyone!!
spies6mirela (7:47:39 PM): hello faith
spies6levi (7:47:45 PM): Ummm, no
spies6levi (7:47:51 PM): Hi Faith!
spies6Kirsten (7:48:16 PM): my board is the same
spies6oswald (7:48:30 PM): my changed briefly
spies6oswald (7:48:36 PM): weird, now its back to normla
spies9felix (7:49:04 PM): faith is way better than all of u
spies6Faith (7:49:33 PM): Aw. I don't think that
spies9felix (7:49:46 PM): well its tru
spies9felix (7:49:57 PM): u cant help it if ur pretty surrounded by hideous trolls
spies9felix (7:50:02 PM): i will help u through it
spies6levi (7:51:36 PM): *Felix's first awkward silence*
spies6Faith (7:51:57 PM): I don't think everyone is hideous
spies9felix (7:52:47 PM): maybe u just need glasses or something
spies9felix (7:52:53 PM): because william?
spies9felix (7:53:04 PM): he should be castrated so he cant reproduce
spies6levi (7:53:22 PM): Go talk to Yvette about that
spies6levi (7:53:25 PM): She's in that line of work
spies9felix (7:53:45 PM): she sounds like someone i would get along with
spies9felix (7:53:49 PM): not softie pansies like u lot
spies6Kirsten (7:54:15 PM): She'd try to castrate you, though.
spies6Kirsten (7:54:25 PM): and probably succeed.
spies6Faith (7:55:13 PM): Yvette certainly isn't one to mess with
spies6levi (7:55:27 PM): I don't know kirsten
spies6levi (7:55:30 PM): his is so small
spies6levi (7:55:33 PM): It would be easy to miss
spies6mirela (7:55:39 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (7:55:52 PM): levi does bring up a good point
spies6Kirsten (7:56:05 PM): yvette in her haste to eradicate mankind might overlook it
spies9felix (7:56:07 PM): rey didn't complain when i slammed him repeatedly into a filing cabinet
spies9felix (7:56:18 PM): only to go faster
spies6Kirsten (7:56:29 PM): he was probably disappointed that he couldn't feel anything
spies9felix (7:57:01 PM): well he went off like a geyser
spies6levi (7:57:07 PM): Well, then again, if her quest is to eradicate mankind
spies6levi (7:57:17 PM): Then why would she concern herself with Felix?
spies9felix (7:57:48 PM): its funny when u try to act really butch levi
spies9felix (7:58:40 PM): kay time 4 me to hit the clubs and get wasted and fucked up
spies9felix (7:58:42 PM): have fun being boring
spies9felix (7:58:58 PM) has left the room.
spies6Faith (7:59:14 PM): What a werido
spies6Kirsten (7:59:57 PM): the future looks grim
spies6mirela (8:01:47 PM): no kidding
spies6Faith (8:01:55 PM): LOL I'm reading the spies11Jane post
spies6mirela (8:02:04 PM): se's on crack
spies6mirela (8:02:06 PM): she's*
spies6oswald (8:02:33 PM): they all are
spies6Kirsten (8:02:53 PM): I think she's a witch
spies6Kirsten (8:02:59 PM): we should burn her
spies6levi (8:03:07 PM): Lol
spies6mirela (8:03:09 PM): haha
spies6oswald (8:08:08 PM) has left the room.
spies10spike (8:20:11 PM) has entered the room.
spies10spike (8:20:30 PM): Damn it!
spies6Kirsten (8:20:34 PM): spike
spies10spike (8:20:36 PM): He's not here is he?
spies10spike (8:20:43 PM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (8:20:43 PM): who is this he you speak of?
spies6mirela (8:21:09 PM): it's spite
spies6mirela (8:21:18 PM): what the hell?
spies6levi (8:21:39 PM): Whoa, Spike!
spies6levi (8:21:44 PM): I haven't met you yet
spies6Kirsten (8:21:47 PM): spike shipped out
spies6levi (8:21:50 PM): Awww
spies6Kirsten (8:21:52 PM): a little slow there levi
spies6levi (8:21:57 PM): Lol
spies6levi (8:22:02 PM): Who was he looking for?
spies6levi (8:22:09 PM): And why are they doin this stuff?
spies6levi (8:22:13 PM): Jsut to make me paranoid?
spies6Kirsten (8:22:31 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (8:22:36 PM): I asked Sam
spies6Kirsten (8:22:45 PM): he mentioned you suffered from a serious case of paranoia
spies6Kirsten (8:22:58 PM): and this was all done to amplify your ailment
spies6levi (8:23:11 PM): ITS A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU
spies6levi (8:23:13 PM): A CONSPIRACY
spies6Kirsten (8:23:38 PM): actually
spies6Kirsten (8:23:41 PM): yes, it is
spies6levi (8:23:44 PM): So, anyone wanna play hangman?
spies6Kirsten (8:23:52 PM): sure
spies6levi (8:24:04 PM): Alright, first word
spies6levi (8:24:10 PM): _ _ _ _ _ _ _
spies6levi (8:24:13 PM): 5 strike
spies6levi (8:24:16 PM): s
spies6levi (8:25:07 PM): Anyone gonna guess?
spies6Kirsten (8:25:25 PM): 3
spies6Kirsten (8:25:27 PM): e
spies6Kirsten (8:25:30 PM): ignore that 3
spies6levi (8:25:34 PM): LOL
spies6levi (8:25:44 PM): _ _ _ _ _ _ _ STRIKES: X _ _ _ _
spies6Kirsten (8:25:53 PM): i
spies6levi (8:26:00 PM): _ _ _ _ _ _ _ STRIKES: X X _ _ _
spies6levi (8:27:00 PM): *plays Jeopardy music*
spies6Kirsten (8:27:16 PM): a
spies6Kirsten (8:27:25 PM): come on vowels
spies6levi (8:27:30 PM): _ A _ _ _ A _ STRIKES: X X _ _ _
spies6Kirsten (8:27:37 PM): N
spies6levi (8:27:48 PM): _ A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X _ _ _
spies6Kirsten (8:29:20 PM): hmm...R?
spies6levi (8:29:40 PM): _ A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X X _ _
spies6levi (8:30:44 PM): She's stumped
spies6Kirsten (8:30:48 PM): I am stumped
spies6Kirsten (8:30:53 PM): bah
spies6levi (8:30:57 PM): I love this word
spies6Kirsten (8:31:01 PM): grrr
spies6levi (8:31:04 PM): Whenever I play hangman I use it
spies6Kirsten (8:31:12 PM): H
spies6levi (8:31:15 PM): i don't think its ever been guessed
spies6levi (8:31:25 PM): H A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X X _ _
spies6Kirsten (8:31:32 PM): I should have known you would have a trick up your sleave
spies6levi (8:32:26 PM): *now is the tiem where you guess a letter
spies6Kirsten (8:32:35 PM): I'm talking to rey!
spies6Kirsten (8:32:39 PM): and trying to think
spies6Kirsten (8:33:11 PM): D
spies6levi (8:33:20 PM): H A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X X X _
spies6Kirsten (8:33:34 PM): I feel like I should have gotten it by now
spies6levi (8:33:40 PM): You should have
spies6Kirsten (8:33:57 PM): is it a vegetable animal or mineral?
spies6levi (8:34:07 PM): None of the above
spies6levi (8:34:13 PM): Even though I don't know why I'm helping you
spies6levi (8:34:19 PM):
spies6Kirsten (8:34:39 PM): bah
spies6levi (8:36:10 PM): still there?
spies6Kirsten (8:37:20 PM): alright, here
spies6Kirsten (8:37:24 PM): and I have no clue
spies6levi (8:37:48 PM): You gotta guess
spies6levi (8:37:51 PM): H A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X X X _
spies6Kirsten (8:38:04 PM): mirela?
spies6Kirsten (8:38:08 PM): help!
spies6mirela (8:38:23 PM): ummm
spies6mirela (8:38:26 PM): hanigan?
spies6Kirsten (8:38:39 PM): B
spies6levi (8:38:50 PM): H A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X X X X
spies6mirela (8:38:56 PM): I?
spies6levi (8:39:00 PM): Are you ready to feel dumb?
spies6Kirsten (8:39:03 PM): already guessed I
spies6levi (8:39:14 PM): Ready to feel dumb?
spies6Kirsten (8:39:21 PM): sure, show me how stupid I am
spies6levi (8:39:37 PM): The word was HANGMAN
spies6Kirsten (8:39:44 PM): wow
spies6levi (8:39:55 PM): And, look at this chat log
spies6mirela (8:39:58 PM): LOl
spies6levi (8:40:08 PM):
spies6levi (10:31:03 PM): Whenever I play hangman I use it

spies6Kirsten (10:31:11 PM): H

spies6levi (10:31:14 PM): i don't think its ever been guessed

spies6levi (10:31:24 PM): H A N _ _ A N STRIKES: X X X _ _
spies6Kirsten (8:40:20 PM): yeah...
spies6Kirsten (8:40:27 PM): that's so bad
spies6levi (8:40:37 PM): No
spies6levi (8:40:40 PM): One time I played it
spies6levi (8:40:44 PM): And the guy who picked the word
spies6levi (8:40:46 PM): Did the movie
spies6levi (8:40:47 PM): XXX
spies6Kirsten (8:42:21 PM): I was going to suggest M too
spies6Kirsten (8:42:34 PM): but I went with B
spies6Kirsten (8:42:38 PM): sadly
spies6Kirsten (8:42:56 PM): I dismissed M because I put it in the correct slot and then couldn't figure it out with only 1 letter left hehe
spies6rey (8:45:14 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (8:45:21 PM) has left the room.
spies6levi (8:46:09 PM): g2g
spies6Kirsten (8:46:32 PM): bye
spies6levi (9:04:38 PM) has left the room.
spies6mirela (9:16:58 PM) has left the room.
spies6mirela (9:23:00 PM) has entered the room.
spies6thor (9:27:14 PM): is anyone alive?
spies6Kirsten (9:27:50 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (9:28:03 PM): I was slain by your hammer
spies6thor (9:28:18 PM): felix killed everyone. damn spy.
spies6Kirsten (9:28:48 PM): more like everyone killed themselves after having talked to felix
spies6thor (9:29:19 PM): hahaha
spies6thor (9:29:30 PM): i really want to meet jane.
spies6Kirsten (9:29:44 PM): she's a witch!
spies6Kirsten (9:29:54 PM): she could turn you into a newt
spies6rey (9:30:46 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (9:30:48 PM) has left the room.
spies6thor (9:34:54 PM): medea needs to be worshipped.
spies6mirela (9:35:15 PM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (9:35:58 PM): she's the obvious citizen on that team
spies6Kirsten (9:36:06 PM): why do they not listen to her advice
spies6thor (9:36:27 PM): i've been taking copious notes on everything the future players do and say.
spies6Kirsten (9:38:18 PM): do you think it will be useful information?
spies6thor (9:39:08 PM): i think it could be.
spies6thor (9:39:16 PM): i'm assuming it factors into the challenges.
spies6Kirsten (9:39:58 PM): that might be true
spies6Kirsten (9:40:15 PM): I will only be able to make 3 challenges unless stars align and planets cross and all that
spies6thor (9:40:22 PM): same for me.
spies6Faith (9:54:23 PM) has left the room.
spies6thor (9:57:04 PM) has left the room.

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (11:46:33 PM): hi
spies6Georgia (11:47:21 PM): Hey Hey.
spies6Kirsten (11:47:32 PM): how are you?
spies6Georgia (11:48:29 PM): Good now. It is almost midnight, and it is sixty degrees outside. Haha. How are you?
spies6Kirsten (11:48:53 PM): I'm doing well
spies6Kirsten (11:49:13 PM): I don't know the temperature outside right now, sorry
spies6Georgia (11:50:03 PM): Haha. That is fine.
spies6Kirsten (11:50:12 PM): alright, good
spies6Kirsten (11:50:22 PM): I wouldn't want to be looked down upon for a lack of outside temp knowledge
spies6Kirsten (11:50:43 PM): so, what are your thoughts right now. Who are you suspicious of?
spies6Georgia (11:52:23 PM): Haha. I only know it because it almost got up to the hundreds today and was dreadful - I was monitoring. lol. Right now, I'm like o.O at all of the future stuff going on. Seems people are still on a break - or just me. At the moment, Donald is perhaps my top suspect.
spies6Kirsten (11:52:56 PM): interesting...why Donald?
spies6Georgia (11:52:59 PM): Though I still need to look over what went on in the other group.
spies6Georgia (11:53:14 PM): Mostly because he voted for one of the more popular candidates each exile.
spies6Kirsten (11:53:26 PM): he's a chronic 2nd place voter, that one.
spies6Kirsten (11:53:43 PM): what about that do you think suggests he's a spy?
spies6Georgia (11:55:03 PM): Yes, yes he is. I can't recall specifically if he actually made a case for them prior to voting or not. It mostly reads spyish, because it is something a spy would do, to try and blend in while still wanting someone whom isn't their mate to be lynched. It is total bandwagoning, and he just feels sketchy.
spies6Kirsten (11:55:46 PM): alright
spies6Kirsten (11:55:52 PM): why did you vote for Ariel?
spies6Kirsten (11:56:35 PM): I think Donald had a case against Mei
spies6Kirsten (11:56:48 PM): altohugh I don't know that for sure.
spies6Georgia (12:00:02 AM): Haha. I know he posted it after the first exile, or it was a case regarding someone else. I voted Ariel because her behavior was odd to me. Some people seemed to want to write her off as a pretty confirmed citizen because of the whole choosing to save Roxy, and Alama ending up a spy. That is fine if you want to go that route, but I think it a bit early to be trusting so deeply this early in the game. TRust is a luxury in all of this, and to just throw it around easily - is questionable to me. I can't say much for what she has said privately with others, or in group chats - as I've only been around a few.
spies6Kirsten (12:00:46 AM): ok, I agree that she shouldn't be trusted as a confirmed citizen by any stretch, but why was that vote worthy?
spies6Georgia (12:01:33 AM): But I can't recall her actually posting a list of her thoughts on people for the first Exile, and she didn't do it for the second exile. Even though her buddy Yvette was hounding everyone else about it. If people wanted to write her off as a confirmed citizen, then that gives her a higher measure of being able to point her finger at everyone she suspects and put the pressure on them.
spies6Georgia (12:01:43 AM): But to my knowledge, she hasn't pointed the finger at anyone first.
spies6Georgia (12:01:57 AM): Her suspicions and finger pointing, seem to only come out when someone does it to her first.
spies6Kirsten (12:02:17 AM): so basically your point is that she hasn't actually done any kind of spy hunting of her own?
spies6Georgia (12:02:24 AM): Though in this case, I've limited knowledge, and pretty much think of the dynamic between her and Ed - and what went on in our last - I think group chat.
spies6Georgia (12:02:49 AM): To my knowledge, she hasn't. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors or in private chats. But I haven't seen it.
spies6Kirsten (12:02:55 AM): ok
spies6Kirsten (12:02:59 AM): I would agree with that
spies6Kirsten (12:03:12 AM): I don't think she's done any either.
spies6Georgia (12:03:23 AM): Plus, her alwas being in the spies6 room, is kind of creepy.
spies6Kirsten (12:03:28 AM): hehe
spies6Georgia (12:03:43 AM): I can't really see a reason for someone to constantly be in there, if they aren't active.
spies6Kirsten (12:03:54 AM): actually, I would do it if I was around
spies6Kirsten (12:04:00 AM): just to go back and look at stuff afterward
spies6Kirsten (12:04:17 AM): but 1. I haven't been around to do it, and 2. I'm far too lazy to ever go back and look at it anyway...so
spies6Georgia (12:04:37 AM): I also voted her, because I felt an amount of leeway. I figured my vote wouldn't really matter after the bullshit Yvette posted - with Thor following it, and others suddenly seeming to agree.
spies6Georgia (12:04:50 AM): Haha. Yeah, I agree. Even reading chats I'm not apart of, is boring.
spies6Kirsten (12:05:19 AM): I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying you thought you were going to get exiled, so you felt free to just kind of vote whatever?
spies6Georgia (12:11:06 AM): It looked that way, up until the votes for Jaya were being posted.. No, I didn't vote whatever. I just felt I had a bit more freedom with my vote. At the time, I was torn with how I was going to vote. I didn't have a top suspect in mind, like I did with Mei for the first Exile. It was more a choice between a number of people who'd exhibited sketchy behavior. After looking over everything I'd posted in regards to my thoughts and comments on people, I decided that I would go with someone whom I had sketchy feelings towards since early on, back in episode one.
spies6Kirsten (12:11:45 AM): What do you think about Donald -voting you?
spies6Georgia (12:12:04 AM): I thought it was a nice gesture, but I don't understand why.
spies6Georgia (12:12:12 AM): He told me before the exile, that he had done it.
spies6Kirsten (12:12:38 AM): we had discussed it that morning
spies6Kirsten (12:12:48 AM): let me look for that chat
spies6Kirsten (12:13:10 AM): in the meantime, what about Ariel did you find sketchy in episode 1? Just her callahan vote?
spies6Georgia (12:14:13 AM): I don't know what went on with her group, I paid very little attention. It was mainly the way she seemed to immediately latch on to Yvette, with the whole blueprint thing.
spies6Kirsten (12:14:27 AM): ah, yeah
spies6Kirsten (12:14:29 AM): I remember that now
spies6Kirsten (12:14:36 AM): they wanted your neck for that, hehe
spies6Georgia (12:14:53 AM): Which, all I can say is..told you so.
spies6Georgia (12:16:00 AM): But it wasn't only that. When she was chatting with everyone, trying to get information on people to help in her saving choice. I dunno. Her behavior since she won the competition, has come off as someone whom was level headed just got a huge superiority complex, and has now had their brain fried by it.
spies6Georgia (12:16:48 AM): Whic, isn't necessarily spyish. It is just.. annoying more than anything. Like since she had won, it didn't really matter what other people had to say - especially if they disagreed with her.
spies6Kirsten (12:17:22 AM): She was originally planning on voting Ed
spies6Kirsten (12:17:27 AM): last episode
spies6Kirsten (12:17:37 AM): I don't know exactly why she swapped to jaya
spies6Kirsten (12:18:01 AM): I keep trying to get those chats
spies6Kirsten (12:18:06 AM): I want to know what happened...
spies6Georgia (12:18:28 AM): Hmm.
spies6Georgia (12:19:48 AM): To me, it looks like her main reason for voting Ed - is because he is... dense? Or something. I don't know all of the particulars between the two. Just what I caught in the group chat.
spies6Kirsten (12:20:01 AM): I think it was something along those lines, yeah
spies6Kirsten (12:21:43 AM): i asked her why she tohught ed was a spy, and she said that he was unhelpful
spies6Georgia (12:22:30 AM): Haha. So the people whom she voices that she will vote for, before the voting happens. It all comes down to personal issues with? Haha.
spies6Kirsten (12:22:47 AM): were there personal issues with Callahan?
spies6Georgia (12:23:49 AM): I've no idea. I was meaning, the people whom she voices that she will vote - not the actual people whom she voted for.
spies6Georgia (12:23:58 AM): Well, that would just be myself and Ed that I know of.
spies6Kirsten (12:23:58 AM): I see
spies6Kirsten (12:24:06 AM): yeah, I get what you mean now
spies6Kirsten (12:24:17 AM): what do you think abuot Mei Yun?
spies6Georgia (12:24:48 AM): I'm glad I had little to no interaction with her the last episode.
spies6Georgia (12:25:02 AM): Though apparently there is something she has to tell me when the game is over. I can only imagine what.
spies6Kirsten (12:25:21 AM): secretly, she loves you and thinks the two of you could be really great friends
spies6Kirsten (12:25:29 AM): that's the revelation!
spies6Georgia (12:25:34 AM): Oh noes!
spies6Georgia (12:26:00 AM): From the little I did see of her posts the most recent episode - I think her a total spaz.
spies6Georgia (12:26:14 AM): She could be a citizen, she could be a spy. But definitely a spaz, and highly paranoid.
spies6Kirsten (12:26:19 AM): yeah, she does seem spazzy
spies6Kirsten (12:26:29 AM): I struggle to read her
spies6Kirsten (12:26:58 AM): Almost nothing she does makes me think she's either a citizen or a spy. Most people I can usually form a read of their alignment off of something
spies6Georgia (12:28:53 AM): I think at this point, she exhibits behaviors which could be labeled both citizen and spyish. Of course, we can all get those labels. She is just always all over the place.
spies6Georgia (12:32:40 AM): I wish the Spies would trim the fat off for us.
spies6Kirsten (12:32:54 AM): what do you mean?
spies6Kirsten (12:33:09 AM): imprison people who are suspects?
spies6Georgia (12:33:38 AM): Imprison the most unhelpful people. Rather than those whom they see as the largest threat to them.
spies6Georgia (12:34:06 AM): Though, imprisoning themselves would actually be way more helpful. But I don't see that ahppening - ever. lol.
spies6Kirsten (12:34:34 AM): I think that would be basically a declaration of forfeiting
spies6Georgia (12:35:26 AM): True. Unless there was a role whom switched a list or two, and made them kill themselves. That is always entertaining to see.
spies6Kirsten (12:36:00 AM): a list?
spies6Georgia (12:37:33 AM): A list of names they send to Sam, saying whom they want to kill. Of course this is more mafia based than werewolf, so they would only send a single name.
spies6Kirsten (12:38:33 AM): I've never played werewolf...I don't really get the whole list thing?
spies6Kirsten (12:38:42 AM): does each person submit a list or what?
spies6Georgia (12:39:13 AM): Werewolf; tends to be more role based; in contrast to mafia.
spies6Georgia (12:40:42 AM): Where there are very few plain villagers. People with a role, tend to send a list of five names to the host. Because the first person on the list could be killed so their power would just go to the next person on the list. Or the person killing could be trying to kill someone whom is protected, so it goes down the list. Then again, it also depends on the host and their rules and whatever.
spies6Kirsten (12:43:35 AM): interesting...seems odd to me, but I'm used to mafia
spies6Kirsten (12:43:54 AM): where if you protect someone and they get killed, the kil just is prevented, not moved on to someone else
spies6Georgia (12:49:45 AM): Yeah. That happens sometimes, it mostly depends on how the MC runs the game. I'm more familiar with werewolf style of playing. Werewolf style tends to make people lazy, since it is so much more role based than Mafia - that and there isn't the whole no-pm rule. So mostly people tend to not discuss things openly in public. They rely way too much on the people with roles, and their secret communications between one another.
spies6Kirsten (12:52:38 AM): that actually sounds closer to spies than mafia, except spies usually doesn't have a lot of roles
spies6Georgia (12:53:46 AM): Yeah. Though with spies to can copy and paste parts of your one-on-one conversations with people. Where with Werewolf, if you do - you get in big trouble.
spies6Georgia (12:53:54 AM): *you
spies6Kirsten (12:54:10 AM): ah
spies6Georgia (12:58:06 AM): Yeah. Well I've got to be going now. Talk to ya later.
spies6Kirsten (12:58:14 AM): bye

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (10:39:37 PM): hey
spies6donald (10:39:45 PM): Hey Kirsten
spies6donald (10:39:47 PM): How are you?
spies6Kirsten (10:39:56 PM): suspicious of you, actually
spies6Kirsten (10:40:01 PM): and I'm doing well
spies6donald (10:40:05 PM): haha
spies6donald (10:40:12 PM): why are you suspicious of me now?
spies6Kirsten (10:40:43 PM): from our last chat, actually
spies6Kirsten (10:40:48 PM): the one the morning of last exile
spies6donald (10:41:03 PM): Could you remind me briefly of what we discussed?
spies6Kirsten (10:41:14 PM): who we were going to vote
spies6Kirsten (10:41:16 PM): mostly
spies6Kirsten (10:41:43 PM): anyway, I will PM you my concerns in a bit. It's easier than retyping it all out
spies6donald (10:41:51 PM): okay, lol, that sounds good
spies6donald (10:42:01 PM): I'm leaving in a short while, so I'll take a look at it in the morning
spies6Kirsten (10:42:05 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (10:42:26 PM): basically the gist of it is that you gave off the impression that you were originally going to vote Roxy, and somehow that changed into you were going to vote Gretchen
spies6donald (10:43:24 PM): at the time, Roxy did have my vote
spies6donald (10:43:59 PM): To put it brief, I switched to Gretchen because of how suspicious I became of her, mostly during the team chat
spies6donald (10:44:28 PM): and additionally for not being able to talk to Roxy before exile, I PMed her to have some questions answered, and I can't remember if I logged in before exile or not
spies6Kirsten (10:44:31 PM): at one point, you mentioned that you were "sticking with Gretchen" though
spies6Kirsten (10:44:42 PM): how does that jive with your vote being on Roxy at the time?
spies6donald (10:45:33 PM): I don't know, I'll have to look back at my votes and what we were saying to remember exactly when I switched, and what I was thinking at the time
spies6donald (10:45:48 PM): but in general, that was my reasoning for Gretchen over Roxy
spies6Kirsten (10:46:12 PM): basically, I had asked you what you thought about Gretchen pushing Roxy, and you mentioned that it looked like Gretchen was pushing an easy exile and that you were going to "stick with" Gretchen.
spies6donald (10:46:49 PM): I may have already switched my vote, then. I'll check it and get back to you
spies6donald (10:47:08 PM): I felt suspicion towards both of them, but didn't feel that both were spies, just one
spies6Kirsten (10:48:06 PM): alright. I'll PM you my whole suspicions sometime tonight. I need to format it all.
spies6donald (10:48:18 PM): okay
spies6donald (10:48:45 PM): btw, are you going to be at the 9am future contest tomorrow morning by chance?
spies6Kirsten (10:49:26 PM): yeah, I should be
spies6donald (10:49:32 PM): yes, that's good
spies6Kirsten (10:49:33 PM): assuming I wake up
spies6donald (10:49:45 PM): haha
spies6donald (10:49:53 PM): it doesn't sound like many will be on, and we need everyone we can get
spies6Kirsten (10:49:59 PM): in the future, I may ignore my alarm clock.
spies6donald (10:50:04 PM): HAHA
spies6donald (10:50:08 PM): good one
spies6Kirsten (10:50:17 PM): yeah, it looks like that one is going to be a low turnout.
spies6donald (10:50:33 PM): I think only one or two others said they'd be on
spies6donald (10:50:45 PM): and I kinda expect Gretchen to maybe be able to make it
spies6Kirsten (10:51:31 PM): yeah, that would be around her time.
spies6donald (11:03:13 PM): okay, I'm off
spies6donald (11:03:21 PM): Good night Kirsten, I hope to see you on tomorrow morning
spies6donald (11:03:26 PM): and hope to be on myself, if I wake up
spies6Kirsten (11:03:36 PM): good night

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (11:59:35 PM): hi
spies6Gabriela (11:59:47 PM): hello
spies6Kirsten (12:00:08 AM): how are you?
spies6Gabriela (12:00:26 AM): good, you?
spies6Kirsten (12:00:33 AM): pretty good
spies6Kirsten (12:00:41 AM): have you done any of the challenges yet?
spies6Gabriela (12:00:55 AM): i was around for all three, yes.
spies6Kirsten (12:01:16 AM): how were they?
spies6Gabriela (12:03:22 AM): the first one was, in my opinion, impossible. we had to spell a phrase using an application that worked like magnets on a fridge, and it had to be 20 or more letters. its a lot easier to throw letters around willynilly than it is to spell things carefully. plus the spies could sabatoge and we wouldnt know who was moving what. 2 points to the future team.
spies6Kirsten (12:04:00 AM): yeah, that sounds pretty impossible unless you simlpy overwhelm them with numbers
spies6Kirsten (12:04:12 AM): and have like 6 different phrases being built a tthe same time
spies6Gabriela (12:04:26 AM): the second one was a guessing game. the average of all of our guesses against one future guess, clostest answer wins. ended up spliting the pounts there 1/1.
spies6Gabriela (12:05:37 AM): the 3rd was a puzzle we had to solve. we should have won, but sam initially awarded the win to the future team. after some reconsideration (and some bitching from us) he decided to split the points 1/1. so right now were done by 2.
spies6Gabriela (12:05:52 AM): down by
spies6Kirsten (12:06:12 AM): so...it looks like some of the challenges are strength in numbers but not all
spies6Gabriela (12:07:19 AM): for the most part. for example, in the guessing game one. the one we won some of us intentionally guessed really high to compincated for other peoples low answers.
spies6Kirsten (12:07:40 AM): yeah, makes sense.
spies6Kirsten (12:07:46 AM): so you think those low numbers were people failing on purpose?
spies6Kirsten (12:08:07 AM): should be *do you think*
spies6Gabriela (12:08:13 AM): honestly, there was a lot of suspicious activity during the challenges. the spies are not holding back.
spies6Kirsten (12:08:19 AM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (12:09:48 AM): do you think anyone in particular looks suspect?
spies6Kirsten (12:09:57 AM): or just you know there was suspicious activity afoot?
spies6Gabriela (12:11:04 AM): well, in the third challenge, i thought i had the solution, so i sent it to the team chat for someone to double check. 30 seconds later the future player submits his answer. im willing to bet a spy in the chat told him what it was.
spies6Gabriela (12:11:47 AM): if you want specifics, jenya, thor, and donald all said things that encouraged sam to award a victory to the future player.
spies6Kirsten (12:12:08 AM): hm..
spies6Kirsten (12:12:15 AM): Jenya and Thor are low on my suspicion list, but Donald is high
spies6Gabriela (12:12:32 AM): im extremely weary of thor
spies6Kirsten (12:12:45 AM): do you think he bussed Jaya?
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spies6Gabriela (12:27:11 AM): sorry, got distraced.
spies6Gabriela (12:28:19 AM): ive actually been meaning to find out more about the whole jaya thing, because it seems like the vote switched at the last minute. and im not sure exactly who is responsible. it seems like an unnecessiary bussing, if it was one. but if it was, itll make for one hell of a good cover.
spies6Kirsten (12:29:08 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (12:29:11 AM): I've been meaning to find out myself
spies6Kirsten (12:29:34 AM): I would also agree, that a last minute swap in a close vote doesn't suggest spy busing, but I want to see who suggested the idea and who followed it, etc.
spies6Gabriela (12:30:44 AM): im told from... who was it... jenya? that apparently pete and tiberius kind of changed there votes blindly by their own admission. im glad it worked out, but if thats true it worries me a little.
spies6Kirsten (12:31:17 AM): well, pete and tiberius also both voted for Almathea
spies6Kirsten (12:31:31 AM): if they are spies, they really love to bus
spies6Kirsten (12:31:43 AM): I think they are most likely citizens
spies6Gabriela (12:32:22 AM): it would be one hell of a cover. though i honestly was expecting one of them to be imprisoned because of it.
spies6Kirsten (12:32:32 AM): same. Mei Yun surprised me.
spies6Kirsten (12:32:51 AM): as bad as it sounds, I was kind of happy. I was somewhat suspicious of her.
spies6Gabriela (12:33:46 AM): after the paris vote, i was a little as well. so i understand what you mean.
spies6Gabriela (12:37:12 AM): exile isnt until tuesday, right?
spies6Kirsten (12:37:13 AM): what about the Paris vote?
spies6Kirsten (12:37:17 AM): yeah, Tuesday
spies6Kirsten (12:37:20 AM): I will miss it...yet again
spies6Kirsten (12:37:34 AM): I've had to work during every exile so far.
spies6Gabriela (12:37:36 AM): thats too bad
spies6Gabriela (12:38:25 AM): regarding the paris vote: the last time i talked to mei before exile, she didnt seem to have much faith in the case against him. i was surprised to see her mind change. i was going to grill here about it. guess now i dont need to.
spies6Kirsten (12:39:02 AM): she seemed to be fairly spastic
spies6Kirsten (12:39:05 AM): changing her mind all the time
spies6Kirsten (12:39:31 AM): i was suspicious of her becuase she kept going back and forth thinking levi was a citizen or a spy
spies6Gabriela (12:40:42 AM): i dont mind changing you mind. it means your flexible to new information. but changing without just cause is what worries me.
spies6Kirsten (12:41:02 AM): yep
spies6Gabriela (12:41:59 AM): hmm, rey has exile immunity? looks like we have our first role activation.
spies6Kirsten (12:42:23 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (12:42:32 AM): although, I'm a little...curious about it
spies6Kirsten (12:42:44 AM): Rey wasn't exactly in any threat of being exiled anyway
spies6Gabriela (12:44:23 AM): my thoughts exactly
spies6Gabriela (12:44:51 AM): plus, exile immuntiy is more (and has been in the past) a spy ability then a citizen one.

[Kirsten]

spies6khaled (10:32:54 PM): Hey
spies6khaled (10:32:59 PM): You wanted to know about Iris earlier?
spies6Kirsten (10:33:22 PM): I don't remember asking about that, but sure
spies6Kirsten (10:33:30 PM): or wait, you voted Iris right?
spies6khaled (10:33:46 PM): Yes
spies6Kirsten (10:33:59 PM): then, yes, I was interested in your reasons for that vote
spies6khaled (10:34:10 PM): Well
spies6khaled (10:34:41 PM): I was torn between voting Iris and voting Paris, because in my view, they were equally suspicious (you can see that in my episode 2 report)
spies6Kirsten (10:35:02 PM): I don't think I read it. I'll have to go back and do so.
spies6khaled (10:35:05 PM): I opted for Iris in the end because I knew many people would be voting Paris as is, but I also knew some people were voting for Iris.
spies6khaled (10:35:32 PM): As such, I was hoping for a closer vote, but my estimation of Iris voters was off.
spies6Kirsten (10:35:33 PM): so, why was that a relevant factor behind your vote?
spies6Kirsten (10:35:41 PM): why did you want a closer vote?
spies6khaled (10:35:55 PM): Closer votes reveal spies more frequently.
spies6khaled (10:36:11 PM): For example, on your team, there was a group of people that voted for Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (10:36:18 PM): right. Myself included.
spies6khaled (10:36:32 PM): said people are now worth scrutinizing as a result
spies6khaled (10:36:40 PM): Because Jaya turned up spy.
spies6Kirsten (10:36:48 PM): may I ward myself against excessive scrutinization
spies6Kirsten (10:36:57 PM): I would agree
spies6Kirsten (10:37:12 PM): actually, the other 2 Gretchen votes are people I am suspicious of (or 2 out of the other 3, I think there's someone I'm forgetting)
spies6khaled (10:37:32 PM): Right.
spies6khaled (10:37:41 PM): In any case, the major things that made Iris suspicious...
spies6khaled (10:38:05 PM): in Episode 1, her activity was never leading or even offering new ideas, it was following
spies6Kirsten (10:38:19 PM): she was on your team?
spies6Kirsten (10:38:21 PM): voted Callahan?
spies6khaled (10:38:22 PM): yes
spies6khaled (10:38:24 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (10:38:31 PM): oh?
spies6khaled (10:38:31 PM): voted Robert, actually.
spies6Kirsten (10:38:40 PM): so...how does that classify as following?
spies6khaled (10:38:54 PM): That in itself doesn't
spies6khaled (10:39:17 PM): But in terms of what she was saying/offering to the rest of the team, it was following
spies6khaled (10:39:43 PM): And the key thing there was that she was not the first person to "follow" either
spies6Kirsten (10:40:21 PM): she was like 4th sheep from the front?
spies6Kirsten (10:40:36 PM): is there a difference in scumminess from the first follower and the Xth?
spies6khaled (10:40:55 PM): Yes
spies6khaled (10:41:04 PM): Generally speaking, at least.
spies6khaled (10:41:25 PM): The initial idea bringer and the first follower are usually okay
spies6khaled (10:41:54 PM): The third and fourth people to join a bandwagon/voting bloc/suspicion chain are usually suspect.
spies6Kirsten (10:43:12 PM): right. I would agree
spies6khaled (10:43:35 PM): In any case, Iris did that
spies6Kirsten (10:43:41 PM): The ol' 3rd/4th on a wagon scum tell
spies6khaled (10:43:44 PM): So that was the first eyebrow raise
spies6Kirsten (10:44:00 PM): she did that in terms of what? Not her vote apparently...?
spies6khaled (10:44:10 PM): No, her posted opinions.
spies6khaled (10:44:22 PM): That was the key
spies6khaled (10:44:34 PM): Since there's not really a trackable bandwagon in this game
spies6khaled (10:44:41 PM): All you can really use is a suspicion chain
spies6Kirsten (10:44:52 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:45:02 PM): the exile threads basically, or timestamped chats
spies6Kirsten (10:45:23 PM): I'm still trying to figure out exactly how the Jaya exile went down, but Yvette/Ariel have not been on
spies6khaled (10:46:35 PM): Yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:46:47 PM): Are you suspicious of Yvette?
spies6khaled (10:47:05 PM): Kind of. That's another story altogether
spies6khaled (10:47:35 PM): As far as Iris goes, the second clue was the fact that she was in that secret voting bloc to protect Yvette and Robert
spies6Kirsten (10:48:17 PM): yeah
spies6khaled (10:48:54 PM): And the third thing that really made the tipping point
spies6khaled (10:49:03 PM): I put it in my post, but I'll repeat it here
spies6khaled (10:49:19 PM): i asked several people on my team in Ep 2 this questions
spies6khaled (10:49:32 PM): "what have you done that makes you a citizen? why should I not vote for you?"
spies6Kirsten (10:50:41 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (10:50:46 PM): that can be a tough question to answer
spies6khaled (10:50:55 PM): oh, i know
spies6khaled (10:50:58 PM): that's why i used it
spies6Kirsten (10:51:19 PM): so what about her response tipped her over?
spies6khaled (10:51:21 PM): i've normally used it on D3
spies6khaled (10:51:50 PM): But person info moves at a faster pace than game info in Spies, so I thought I'd give it a shot here
spies6khaled (10:51:51 PM): Anyway
spies6khaled (10:51:58 PM): Her response was all WIFOM
spies6khaled (10:52:16 PM): And it wasn't even good WIFOM, or an attempt at reason
spies6khaled (10:52:40 PM): It was "Look, I've already said this crap. I've done XX YY. Would a spy do that?"
spies6khaled (10:52:45 PM): Or some derivation thereof
spies6Kirsten (10:53:21 PM): I'll have to check out exactly what it was
spies6Kirsten (10:53:39 PM): I'm not a huge fan of WIFOM, though, admittedly. The term that is.
spies6khaled (10:54:14 PM): The term isn't as nice as it could be, I agree.
spies6Kirsten (10:54:24 PM): My opinion for the most part is that people do things for a reason, and we can attempt to determine what that reason was, whereas WIFOM is kind of the idea that we can't figure out the reason behind why someone did something.
spies6khaled (10:54:31 PM): But I think of Vizzini and the scene for which it was named, and I laugh it off.
spies6khaled (10:54:57 PM): No, you're right to a point, Kirsten
spies6khaled (10:55:13 PM): And using a WIFOM style argument is okay in limited doses
spies6khaled (10:55:23 PM): Which is something many people don't realize.
spies6khaled (10:55:34 PM): But her response was exclusively WIFOM.
spies6khaled (10:55:43 PM): When you do that, you become sketch.
spies6Kirsten (10:56:32 PM): yeah, it depends
spies6Kirsten (10:56:52 PM): if her arguments are all of the kind "I wouldn't do X as a spy" then yeah
spies6khaled (10:57:12 PM): Basically.
spies6Kirsten (10:57:16 PM): Granted, sometimes it's a valid point. People legitimately are less likely to do X as a spy than a citizen, but not always
spies6khaled (10:57:20 PM): Right
spies6khaled (10:57:32 PM): But it was -all- WIFOM, similar to what you said
spies6khaled (10:57:49 PM): Like, I was completely shocked seeing it
spies6khaled (10:58:13 PM): And I asked her (and her only, after her response) if she wanted to add anything else to clarify or something
spies6khaled (11:01:21 PM): So
spies6khaled (11:01:32 PM): WTF is with this Future Week situation?
spies6Kirsten (11:01:41 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (11:01:46 PM): I don't know
spies6khaled (11:02:17 PM): Like, I come home and I see these IMs from "future people"
spies6Kirsten (11:02:28 PM): yeah...I've chatted with a few
spies6Kirsten (11:02:43 PM): I think Qi implicitly told me that I win spies6
spies6khaled (11:03:20 PM): Heh
spies6Kirsten (11:03:22 PM): she warned me that the winner of spies 6 would be used by Sam as a spy for the Chinese Government...but why would she warn me unless I was going to win?
spies6khaled (11:03:57 PM): well
spies6khaled (11:04:07 PM): there's two issues at hand with her telling you that
spies6khaled (11:04:12 PM): and your conclusion
spies6khaled (11:04:40 PM): 1. You could survive, but not win. Technically, every player is still alive in terms of story continuity.
spies6khaled (11:05:05 PM): 2. Since she's appeared, the spies6 continuity that she knows from her game has changed.
spies6Kirsten (11:05:22 PM): right
spies6khaled (11:05:38 PM): It's the "parallel universe" situation
spies6Kirsten (11:05:40 PM): armed with the knowledge of Chinese spies in the postgame, Spies6 will be irrevocably altered from the original course
spies6Kirsten (11:06:24 PM): have you done any challenges yet?
spies6khaled (11:07:47 PM): No
spies6khaled (11:07:54 PM): I spent all day today building a doghouse
spies6khaled (11:08:00 PM): and then drinking
spies6Kirsten (11:08:22 PM): I think spending all day building a doghouse would lead me to the bottle as well
spies6Kirsten (11:08:25 PM):
spies6khaled (11:09:24 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (11:09:35 PM): I spent all day working a crappy job
spies6Kirsten (11:09:44 PM): so, I do envy the doghouse building
spies6khaled (11:11:22 PM): Eh
spies6khaled (11:11:27 PM): I spent my week doing that
spies6khaled (11:11:53 PM): Oh man
spies6khaled (11:11:56 PM): Sam and I need to have a talk
spies6khaled (11:12:07 PM): I just read the imprisonment
spies6khaled (11:12:16 PM): and there's tiny mistakes all over
spies6Kirsten (11:12:32 PM): maybe his roommate wrote it?
spies6khaled (11:12:48 PM): no, in terms of space-visualization
spies6Kirsten (11:13:38 PM): the nerve!
spies6Kirsten (11:13:50 PM): erroneous space-visualization...what kind of a mod is he!
spies6Kirsten (11:13:52 PM):
spies6khaled (11:14:44 PM): well
spies6khaled (11:15:29 PM): he's making previous mathematician mistakes of trying to generalize four-dimensional sets to 2 or 3 dimensions
spies6Kirsten (11:15:33 PM): I'm just giving you a hard time Mr. Smarty pants...although i am actually interested in what the mistakes were
spies6khaled (11:15:36 PM): and while that works for some....
spies6khaled (11:15:53 PM): in general, it's a poor way of working with 4 (or n) dimensions
spies6khaled (11:16:20 PM): the thing about 2 and 3 dimensions that make them easy to work with, apart from the fact that they're the dimensions we deal with on a daily basis
spies6khaled (11:16:40 PM): is the fact that they're prime
spies6Kirsten (11:17:00 PM): so it 5 easy to work with comparitively to 4?
spies6khaled (11:17:05 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (11:17:10 PM): that's interesting
spies6khaled (11:17:17 PM): visually, it isn't
spies6Kirsten (11:17:23 PM): hehe, no I imagine not
spies6khaled (11:17:23 PM): but operations in 5D space are easier
spies6Kirsten (11:17:35 PM): what does primality have to do with it?
spies6Kirsten (11:17:46 PM): also, primality probably is not the right word, but, meh
spies6khaled (11:18:09 PM): no, it is, actually
spies6khaled (11:18:45 PM): that's an interesting question actually--there's not like a "reason" that makes prime numbers or prime dimensions easier to work wtih
spies6khaled (11:19:12 PM): but nonprime dimensions can be solved via mapping
spies6khaled (11:21:30 PM): and as such, they have generalizable sets that have distinct functions in prime space
spies6Kirsten (11:22:45 PM): so you would map 4d into 3d or something like that?
spies6khaled (11:22:56 PM): you can
spies6khaled (11:23:03 PM): sometimes, at least
spies6khaled (11:23:22 PM): there's always the odd function or vector field that's defined in such a way that makes a mapping impossible
spies6khaled (11:24:50 PM): in any case, as much as i like to talk about topology and noneuclidean geometry while drunk
spies6khaled (11:24:55 PM): i do need to go to bed
spies6Kirsten (11:25:14 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (11:25:23 PM): I'll pretend to fully understand it
spies6Kirsten (11:25:34 PM): good night!
spies6khaled (11:25:42 PM): it's all good
spies6khaled (11:25:43 PM): night

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (11:06:39 PM): hi
spies6Kirsten (11:10:16 PM): so i vote you once and then you ignore me?
spies6Kirsten (11:10:19 PM): I see how it is
spies6gretchen (11:10:39 PM): haha when did i ignore you???
spies6Kirsten (11:10:51 PM): I said hi 5 minutes ago!
spies6gretchen (11:11:21 PM): ahah well i just restarted my computer - so i wasn't online and i didn't have an offline message from you
spies6gretchen (11:11:31 PM): so sorry if you thought i did, but i didn't ignore you
spies6Kirsten (11:11:32 PM): sounds like a spy excuse
spies6Kirsten (11:11:36 PM): restarted my computer
spies6gretchen (11:11:39 PM): lmao. it so is.
spies6Kirsten (11:11:42 PM): likely...very likely...
spies6gretchen (11:11:50 PM): agreed. you better vote me again!
spies6Kirsten (11:12:12 PM): well, if you insist
spies6gretchen (11:12:19 PM): when is the next competition? i don't know the time difference.
spies6Kirsten (11:12:46 PM): 9 AM CST
spies6Kirsten (11:12:55 PM): 8 hours from now
spies6Kirsten (11:12:57 PM): sorry
spies6Kirsten (11:13:00 PM): I realize that wasn't helpful at all
spies6gretchen (11:13:34 PM): it's now 9am? bah. that's ages away. i may be online just if i stay up. for one anyway.
spies6Kirsten (11:14:15 PM): that will be one of the 3 I can make
spies6Kirsten (11:14:23 PM): it will all depend on one factor though
spies6Kirsten (11:14:30 PM): a factor that I have been known to be unreliable on in the past
spies6gretchen (11:14:43 PM): ahah. fair enough.
spies6Kirsten (11:14:45 PM): and that's called actually waking up to my alarm
spies6gretchen (11:15:35 PM): yeah i may have to do the same thing. it will be around 12.30am and i have to work tomorrow. bah.
spies6Kirsten (11:16:05 PM): I have to work tomorrow as well
spies6Kirsten (11:16:08 PM): and likewise I say Bah to that
spies6gretchen (11:16:23 PM): agreed. damn him.
spies6Kirsten (11:16:39 PM): I missed the challenges today cause I had to work as well
spies6gretchen (11:17:51 PM): yeah me too. i don't want the point towards myself, which i am assuming is the penalty, but it's going to be an effort to make them.
spies6Kirsten (11:18:20 PM): yeah, with my confirmed vote for you, self-voting would be a really poor thing.
spies6gretchen (11:18:42 PM): agreed. that's 2 votes already. i am screwed.
spies6Kirsten (11:19:47 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (11:19:50 PM): 20 some players in the game
spies6Kirsten (11:19:59 PM): 2 votes is enough to be viciously removed from the burg
spies6Kirsten (11:20:36 PM): I will admit, I am still somewhat suspicious of you, but definitely less so.
spies6Kirsten (11:20:57 PM): and I wasn't even that suspicious of you last episode. Being out all weekend really sucked.
spies6gretchen (11:21:38 PM): yeah it did make it difficult to discuss your vote on me with you. but oh well, it's done now.
spies6Kirsten (11:22:00 PM): question for you:
spies6Kirsten (11:22:15 PM): why do you think William is now a citizen? Simply because he was one of Jaya's suspects?
spies6gretchen (11:22:32 PM): i am confused, i thought there was another imprisonment before the next exile? yet the timer is only counting till the next exile... which makes me think we've skipped an imprisonment.
spies6Kirsten (11:23:09 PM): Mei Yun was imprisoned today
spies6gretchen (11:23:21 PM): jaya's discussion on william puts him more towards the cit alignment if you look at that alone. i however still think he is lurking and not contributing at all to the game except the random odd stupid comment.
spies6gretchen (11:23:29 PM): holy shit - really???
spies6Kirsten (11:23:33 PM): hehe, yeah
spies6gretchen (11:23:35 PM): how long ago was that?
spies6gretchen (11:23:43 PM): must be on the boards somewhere
spies6Kirsten (11:23:50 PM): I don't know. I was at work at the time, maybe 6 hours or so?
spies6Kirsten (11:24:01 PM): it's in the imprisonment sections of the board
spies6gretchen (11:24:03 PM): wow. interesting pick.
spies6Kirsten (11:24:06 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (11:24:17 PM): this may sound scummy, but I'm actually happy about that
spies6gretchen (11:24:21 PM): ok i will have a look. i would've thought they'd go for yvette or ariel.
spies6Kirsten (11:24:26 PM): she was definitely not a citizen in my mind...kind of 50/50
spies6gretchen (11:24:40 PM): and haha i think you're probably not the only one. she did have a few people suspicious of her for sure.
spies6Kirsten (11:24:52 PM): and I think knowing her alignment is useful for episode 1 based on the voting history
spies6gretchen (11:25:19 PM): yes. that's a very good point. i wonder who the next bandwagons will be on.
spies6Kirsten (11:26:41 PM): I don't know
spies6Kirsten (11:27:15 PM): process of elimination, though, is going to be huge
spies6Kirsten (11:27:30 PM): meaning, there are a ton of people who look very cit after the 2 dead spies
spies6gretchen (11:27:33 PM): well we need to start thinking about it i guess. or at least start discussing it. though everyone else is probably focusing on the challenges atm cause they get to do them
spies6Kirsten (11:27:41 PM): yeah
spies6gretchen (11:27:42 PM): oh heck yes.
spies6Kirsten (11:27:50 PM): I was going to post suspicions last night actually, to get things started
spies6Kirsten (11:28:10 PM): but I held off to wait for imprisonment
spies6Kirsten (11:28:26 PM): I didn't want to get nailed in case I was right
spies6gretchen (11:28:40 PM): yeah that's what i thought too. and there's a bucketload of information to dissect also for me anyway.
spies6Kirsten (11:29:18 PM): I think if I had to vote right now, I'd vote for Donald
spies6gretchen (11:29:50 PM): yeah i wanted to ask him about his sneaky little vote on me.
spies6gretchen (11:29:54 PM): cause it was sneaky.
spies6Kirsten (11:30:04 PM): actually
spies6Kirsten (11:30:07 PM): it was sneaky
spies6Kirsten (11:30:14 PM): and actually, that's my point of suspicion on him
spies6Kirsten (11:30:47 PM): maybe hypocritical since I did vote you too, but...meh
spies6Kirsten (11:30:50 PM):
spies6gretchen (11:32:36 PM): nah you actually discussed why you were voting me. he didn't. in fact i had no idea he was even slightly suspicious of me. he never asked me anything about it. sneaky sneaky sneaky.
spies6Kirsten (11:32:43 PM): actually, I want to ask you about the two things that still kind of bother me abuot you: First is you posting the conversation you had with jaya. You mention that it wasn't done to prove your citizenship, but to me, that kind of does look like the point of having posted that. The 2nd is you not knowing about the minus vote thing, but then instantly guessing exactly what it was, which seems kind of ...fake?
spies6gretchen (11:34:28 PM): the convo with jaya says nothing about my alignment. for all you know we could both be spies discussing who were going to vote in one of those sections of chat. i posted it purely because i thought it may give some more info and also cause yvette said it was a good idea and i trust her somewhat.
spies6gretchen (11:34:56 PM): nah it wasn't fake in guessing what the plus / negative voting system. i type like i talk. type first, think later.
spies6Kirsten (11:35:06 PM): well, I'm suspicious of Donald because we chatted, and he came into the chat planning to vote for Roxy, but having you as his 2nd suspect, but a few minutes later I asked him how he felt about you wanting to get rid of Roxy (one of his top two wanting to kill other the other) and he mentioned that he was going to vote you. In that 7 minutes time he had changed his opinion, which was...suspicious.
spies6gretchen (11:35:33 PM): brb to answer
spies6Kirsten (11:36:12 PM): also he used the term "stick with" to describe his vote on you when he wasn't actually sticking with it, since he was originally planning on voting Roxy. At any rate, I'm going to PM him about it and see what he has to say for himself.
spies6gretchen (11:40:38 PM): yeah i would be very interested to see his response - paraphrased of course anyway!
spies6Kirsten (12:16:42 AM): I'm going to reject your invitation to a talk session
spies6gretchen (12:16:54 AM): did i even send one???
spies6Kirsten (12:16:57 AM): you did
spies6gretchen (12:17:02 AM): it just popped up like that
spies6Kirsten (12:17:07 AM): sounds like some spy shit to me
spies6gretchen (12:17:07 AM): bah i suck at aim
spies6gretchen (12:17:10 AM): lmao
spies6Kirsten (12:17:25 AM): talk session? Is that a euphamism for killing me off?
spies6gretchen (12:17:33 AM): yes yes it is
spies6gretchen (12:17:48 AM): if you accepted it, you would have died next imprisonment
spies6Kirsten (12:17:57 AM): so what happens since I declined it?
spies6gretchen (12:18:17 AM): you survive. for now. but then again, i did let the secret out, so i may have to kill you anyway.
spies6Kirsten (12:18:25 AM): that's what I was afraid of
spies6gretchen (12:18:36 AM): yes. it's a harsh harsh world.
spies6Kirsten (12:18:46 AM): I should have accepted it. Either way I die, just this way I'm left wondering what could have been.
spies6gretchen (12:19:28 AM): ahaha. i think you will be fine for a while. surely yvette or ariel will be next.
spies6Kirsten (12:19:36 AM): maybe
spies6Kirsten (12:19:40 AM): people are suspicious of Yvette
spies6gretchen (12:20:44 AM): are they? that's interesting. i guess the imprisonment was kinda a smart move really. people will question why she wasn't imprisoned.
spies6Kirsten (12:21:17 AM): meh, I won't
spies6gretchen (12:21:41 AM): me neither. but it could come in handy down the line for them.
spies6Kirsten (12:21:50 AM): neither Ariel nor Yvette actually struck me as likely imprisonment targets. Although I was really shocked by Mei Yun.
spies6gretchen (12:22:40 AM): who did you think would go?
spies6Kirsten (12:22:49 AM): someone from Almathea's team
spies6gretchen (12:23:02 AM): ahhh ok.

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (11:59:50 PM): hi
spies6mirela (12:01:51 AM): hello
spies6Kirsten (12:02:10 AM): were you around for any of the challenges?
spies6mirela (12:02:17 AM): just one
spies6Kirsten (12:05:41 AM): how was it?
spies6mirela (12:06:06 AM): it was sad
spies6mirela (12:06:10 AM): but we won
spies6Kirsten (12:10:07 AM): which challenge was that?
spies6mirela (12:10:13 AM): the estimation
spies6Kirsten (12:10:37 AM): what did you have to estimate? I looked and saw a lot of numbers, but it was fairly meaningless
spies6mirela (12:12:00 AM): well we had to estimate an umber of things
spies6mirela (12:12:16 AM): for example the first one was how many posts were on the board
spies6Kirsten (12:13:26 AM): it seems like you could simply look at that one...
spies6Kirsten (12:13:33 AM): or did that include confessionals as well?
spies6mirela (12:13:39 AM): it included everything
spies6Kirsten (12:13:40 AM): ah
spies6mirela (12:14:06 AM): the second was guessing how many tacks were in this box
spies6Kirsten (12:14:23 AM): sounds tacky
spies6mirela (12:16:23 AM): haha yes
spies6mirela (12:16:27 AM): we won that round
spies6mirela (12:16:35 AM): amelia made herself look like a spy
spies6Kirsten (12:17:39 AM): how so?
spies6mirela (12:19:27 AM): well for the tack one
spies6mirela (12:19:36 AM): she guessed way way wayyyy too high
spies6Kirsten (12:20:25 AM): hmm...
spies6mirela (12:20:32 AM): everyone bashed her for it
spies6Kirsten (12:20:48 AM): speaking to gabriela, she said people voted really high on purpose for some of the challenges to account for other people who voted too low
spies6Kirsten (12:21:00 AM): do you not think that was the case?
spies6mirela (12:21:47 AM): yeah but this was suspicious. oswald really thought she was a spy after that episode
spies6mirela (12:21:55 AM): i don't know how she did on future challenges.
spies6mirela (12:22:08 AM): im guessing whoever spies tried to guess unreasonably so that we'd lose
spies6mirela (12:22:16 AM): he guess was totally unreasonable
spies6Kirsten (12:22:30 AM): but do you think a spy would be so obvious?
spies6mirela (12:22:48 AM): maybe
spies6mirela (12:22:54 AM): do you participate in any?
spies6Kirsten (12:23:08 AM): I had to work all day today, so I haven't yet
spies6mirela (12:23:12 AM): ah
spies6mirela (12:23:19 AM): who won the third challenge?
spies6Kirsten (12:23:22 AM): I'll be doing the 9 am one, and then I will work again all day tomorrow, but should get in the last 2
spies6Kirsten (12:23:31 AM): I'm not sure, which one was the third?
spies6mirela (12:23:42 AM): the one after the estimation
spies6Kirsten (12:23:45 AM): was it the magnet one?
spies6mirela (12:23:51 AM): magnet?
spies6Kirsten (12:23:59 AM): the one with letters on the board
spies6Kirsten (12:24:10 AM): that you could move around...kind of like magnets on a fridge
spies6mirela (12:24:18 AM): oh that was the first one
spies6Kirsten (12:24:36 AM): I'll have to check then. I'm forgetting what else was there
spies6Kirsten (12:25:29 AM): you had to pick which of 2 objects was identical
spies6mirela (12:26:18 AM): ah i see
spies6mirela (12:26:22 AM): right now were tied
spies6Kirsten (12:26:37 AM): gabriela said we were down by 2
spies6mirela (12:26:52 AM): oh nvm
spies6mirela (12:26:59 AM): i haven't been keeping track much today
spies6Kirsten (12:27:17 AM): eh, I don't know either
spies6mirela (12:27:43 AM): ugh rey is so annoying
spies6Kirsten (12:27:56 AM): hehe
spies6mirela (12:28:03 AM): i hate him
spies6Kirsten (12:28:07 AM): strong words
spies6mirela (12:28:12 AM): very strong
spies6mirela (12:28:20 AM): ive already made a voodoo of him
spies6mirela (12:28:26 AM): and i've stabbed it with a thousand needles
spies6Kirsten (12:28:31 AM): hehe, remind me to never get on your bad side
spies6mirela (12:28:37 AM): haha
spies6mirela (12:28:40 AM): by the way
spies6Kirsten (12:28:47 AM): you will dream bad things about me, then make a voodoo doll and do additional bad things
spies6Kirsten (12:28:56 AM): and I will curl up and cry
spies6mirela (12:29:00 AM): lol
spies6mirela (12:29:11 AM): i have strong feeling on who we need to vote for next exile
spies6Kirsten (12:29:59 AM): hopefully that feeling isn't rey, he's immune.
spies6Kirsten (12:30:00 AM):
spies6mirela (12:30:06 AM): haha no
spies6mirela (12:30:18 AM): we really NEED to vote for either yvette, ariel, iris, or faith
spies6Kirsten (12:30:27 AM): because of the Robert thing?
spies6mirela (12:30:29 AM): yes
spies6mirela (12:30:33 AM): one of them IS A SPY
spies6Kirsten (12:30:38 AM): probably...
spies6mirela (12:30:47 AM): i've talked to others about it and they agree
spies6Kirsten (12:30:53 AM): I kind of disagree with the brute force "let's kill them all until we find the spy" method, though
spies6mirela (12:31:17 AM): i didn't say all of them, we just have to hopefully choose the right one
spies6mirela (12:31:20 AM): based on the evidence
spies6Kirsten (12:32:02 AM): my guess is faith
spies6Kirsten (12:32:09 AM): out of those 4
spies6mirela (12:32:46 AM): i was thinking the same
spies6mirela (12:32:49 AM): maybe iris
spies6mirela (12:32:58 AM): i really don't think it's yvette
spies6mirela (12:33:09 AM): but she's not totally cleared in my book
spies6Kirsten (12:33:13 AM): I don't think it's Yvette.
spies6mirela (12:33:24 AM): and ariel is a hell no cause she voted for two spies already
spies6Kirsten (12:33:33 AM): eh
spies6Kirsten (12:33:43 AM): I'm actually not convinced Ariel is a citizen.
spies6mirela (12:33:55 AM): what?
spies6mirela (12:34:07 AM): well i mean i'm not convinced either, but it's not the most unlikely thing
spies6Kirsten (12:34:22 AM): I still have yet to see the reasons people voted out Jaya
spies6Kirsten (12:34:27 AM): I've been trying to get those chats
spies6mirela (12:34:35 AM): well roxy told me
spies6mirela (12:34:40 AM): that she was speaking weird
spies6mirela (12:34:43 AM): and didn't sign on much
spies6Kirsten (12:34:49 AM): My guess is that she just went along with Yvette
spies6Kirsten (12:34:52 AM): but, I don't know
spies6mirela (12:45:11 AM): well all i'm saying is that one of them has to be a spy
spies6mirela (12:45:22 AM): there is no other case present at the moment
spies6Kirsten (12:45:31 AM): I think Donald is a spy
spies6mirela (12:45:56 AM): i never met him
spies6mirela (12:46:05 AM): why do you think that though?
spies6Kirsten (12:46:17 AM): we had a chat last episode the morning of the exile
spies6Kirsten (12:46:36 AM): he went into the chat saying he was planning to vote for Roxy, and Gretchen was his 2nd suspect
spies6Kirsten (12:48:52 AM): lightning struck and I was disconnected
spies6Kirsten (12:48:55 AM): a couple minutes later I asked him how he felt about Gretchen wanting to exile Roxy (one of his top two strongly attacking the other one), and he mentioned that it looked like Gretchen may have been going for the easy exile and that he was sticking with his gretchen vote, even though he was originally voting Roxy
spies6mirela (12:49:24 AM): hmmm
spies6Kirsten (12:49:35 AM): I felt like it was shady, and that he was kind of just post facto altering his opinion based on what I said
spies6mirela (1:04:00 AM): hmm thats good evidence
spies6mirela (1:04:04 AM): you should present that to others
spies6Kirsten (1:04:09 AM): In fact I shall
spies6Kirsten (1:04:16 AM): I was going to PM him about it
spies6Kirsten (1:04:21 AM): but I think I'm just going to slap that on le burg
spies6Kirsten (1:04:28 AM): and let our discourse be public
spies6mirela (1:04:37 AM): you did it with levi! lol
spies6Kirsten (1:04:43 AM): I did
spies6Kirsten (1:05:07 AM): that's how I roll
spies6mirela (1:05:11 AM): haha
spies6mirela (1:05:14 AM): never boring right?
spies6Kirsten (1:05:18 AM): of course!
spies6Kirsten (1:05:35 AM): discussing suspicions privately can be boring
spies6Kirsten (1:05:50 AM): gotta spice it up by slapping it in the public sphere
spies6Kirsten (1:06:08 AM): then you have crowds of people cheering for or against you...it's crazy!
spies6mirela (1:06:22 AM): yay!
spies6mirela (1:06:23 AM): lol
spies6Kirsten (1:06:24 AM): or maybe there are just a couple of viewers making offhand comments...but, whatever
spies6mirela (1:35:53 AM): ack
spies6Kirsten (1:36:02 AM): tack
spies6mirela (1:36:09 AM): so today in the challenge
spies6mirela (1:36:19 AM): well before
spies6mirela (1:36:32 AM): i was talking with ellis, and he accidentally slipped out he was in a chat
spies6mirela (1:36:44 AM): he said he was in a couple chats actually
spies6mirela (1:36:50 AM): and i asked him with who
spies6mirela (1:36:52 AM): and he invited me
spies6mirela (1:37:09 AM): he was on three actually
spies6Kirsten (1:37:19 AM): did he invite you to all 3?
spies6mirela (1:37:21 AM): no
spies6mirela (1:37:27 AM): he only invited me to one
spies6mirela (1:39:35 AM): i regard that has highly suspicious
spies6Kirsten (1:39:49 AM): how did he slip?
spies6Kirsten (1:40:05 AM): did he accidentally reveal that he was in multiple chats, or did he just mention it offhand?
spies6mirela (1:40:45 AM): spies6ellis (3:54:26 PM): sorry, I'm in three chat rooms right now
spies6ellis (3:54:33 PM): can't exactly talk one on one, lol
spies6mirela (3:54:38 PM): three chat rooms?
spies6mirela (3:54:40 PM): with who?
spies6ellis (3:55:57 PM): ok I really don't think I should have said that

spies6mirela (1:42:06 AM): what does that tell you?
spies6mirela (1:42:26 AM): this is incriminating evidence
spies6Kirsten (1:42:58 AM): I will admit, I don't think it's very incriminating actually
spies6mirela (1:43:13 AM): really?
spies6Kirsten (1:43:14 AM): when I talked to him the other day, he stopped talking to me so he could talk to other people
spies6mirela (1:43:29 AM): but its the fact that they were chat rooms
spies6Kirsten (1:43:32 AM): he just seems like the kind of person who likes to keep his chatting to a minimum.
spies6mirela (1:43:38 AM): three different groups of people
spies6Kirsten (1:43:41 AM): who was in the chat room you joined?
spies6mirela (1:43:49 AM): rey, levi, boris i think...
spies6mirela (1:44:01 AM): i can't remember, i didn't save the convo
spies6Kirsten (1:44:05 AM): bah!
spies6mirela (1:44:12 AM): i know, i need to get better at that
spies6Kirsten (1:44:17 AM): you should turn on the feature that auto-logs chats
spies6mirela (1:44:25 AM): how do i do that?
spies6Kirsten (1:44:27 AM): then you don't even have to worry
spies6Kirsten (1:44:51 AM): go to Edit
spies6Kirsten (1:44:54 AM): Choose Settings
spies6Kirsten (1:45:02 AM): Choose the tab "IM Logging"
spies6Kirsten (1:45:15 AM): check both boxes, and set the folder you want to save the logs to
spies6mirela (1:45:44 AM): ah okay did it
spies6mirela (1:45:45 AM): yay
spies6Kirsten (1:46:21 AM): another tip
spies6Kirsten (1:46:44 AM): control + H
spies6mirela (1:46:57 AM): whats that?
spies6Kirsten (1:46:59 AM): if you hit control + H while you have a chat with me open, it will open up your log of our chat history
spies6mirela (1:46:59 AM): ooh
spies6Kirsten (1:47:18 AM): if you hit control + H while you have the AIM program open, it will open up your folder that stores all your logs
spies6mirela (1:47:26 AM): ooh i see
spies6mirela (1:47:36 AM): thank you my dear
spies6Kirsten (1:47:39 AM):
spies6Kirsten (1:47:41 AM): no problems
spies6Kirsten (1:48:11 AM): I feel like I should post that in the burg somewhere.
spies6mirela (1:48:22 AM): are you gonna post the donald thing?
spies6Kirsten (1:48:25 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:48:30 AM): I'm getting it all typed up
spies6mirela (1:48:33 AM): i wanna reply to it
spies6mirela (1:48:34 AM): xD

spies6Kirsten (1:48:43 AM):
spies6mirela (1:48:54 AM): kirsten, you are soo cool
spies6mirela (1:49:01 AM): i like you a lot, your my home girl!
spies6Kirsten (1:49:25 AM): hehe, thanks
spies6Kirsten (1:49:39 AM): I will send out fan club mail to you!
spies6mirela (1:49:51 AM): keep my updated pahleeze
spies6Kirsten (2:00:08 AM): it has been posted
spies6Kirsten (2:00:13 AM): warning...may be long
spies6Kirsten (2:03:56 AM): brb
spies6mirela (2:13:31 AM): blah i'm pooped
spies6mirela (2:13:34 AM): gotta hit the hay!
spies6mirela (2:13:37 AM): see yea girlfriend
spies6Kirsten (2:15:45 AM): bye! I think you should ask Ellis about those other chats, and find out who he was talking to and why
spies6Kirsten (2:15:57 AM): I'm not too suspicious of him, but in case he is a spy, that would be excellent information
spies6mirela (2:16:00 AM): i think i will
spies6mirela (2:16:07 AM): and i'll inform you
spies6Kirsten (2:16:11 AM): cool

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (7:49:18 AM): are you still here?
spies6Boris (7:53:45 AM): i am back
spies6Boris (7:54:06 AM): i was making breakfast
spies6Kirsten (7:54:20 AM): cool. I'm only going to be here for bit before going back to bed, but I wanted to ask you a few questions
spies6Boris (7:54:41 AM): ok
spies6Kirsten (7:54:46 AM): why did you vote Roxy first episode, and why Paris last episode?
spies6Boris (7:55:43 AM): roxy at time was best bet in my eyes for round one
spies6Boris (7:55:53 AM): of the people i had spoken to
spies6Boris (7:56:04 AM): i did not find mei yun to be all that scummy
spies6Kirsten (7:56:18 AM): based on what?
spies6Boris (7:56:24 AM): who was the other candidate for that vote
spies6Kirsten (7:56:44 AM): Mei Yun, and Roxy were the two main candidates. I think Donald was 3rd
spies6Boris (7:56:51 AM): sorry, spies10xoe is bothering right now
spies6Kirsten (7:56:55 AM): haha
spies6Boris (7:57:07 AM): i had not talked to donald
spies6Boris (7:57:20 AM): and i don't like going off of hearsay that much
spies6Kirsten (7:57:20 AM): spies10xoe? how many future people are there...?
spies6Boris (7:57:25 AM): i have no idea
spies6Boris (7:58:08 AM): i had a few talks with mei yun about who she thought was scummy, and what not
spies6Boris (7:58:26 AM): her defense against herself reminded me of myself when i first started, when I am only looking out for number one
spies6Kirsten (7:58:28 AM): so you voted Roxy mostly because she was a better candidate than Mei?
spies6Boris (7:58:29 AM): and not for the team
spies6Boris (7:58:44 AM): no, i also voted for roxy for another reason, i am looking through my notes
spies6Boris (7:58:53 AM): she said something to me that was the scummiest thing at the time
spies6Boris (7:59:03 AM): though i don't find her to be a good candidate for spy any longer
spies6Kirsten (7:59:54 AM): why's that?
spies6Boris (8:00:31 AM): it was in chat with gretchen and jaya
spies6Boris (8:00:43 AM): that gretchen posted
spies6Boris (8:01:10 AM): jaya was going after roxy in that chat, and i thought that the spies would have stopped trying to throw each other under bus at this point
spies6Boris (8:01:49 AM): so i think now she is not good
spies6Kirsten (8:02:00 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (8:02:09 AM): Jaya was in favor of exiling Roxy for the information angle
spies6Kirsten (8:02:12 AM): which speaks in Roxy's favor
spies6Boris (8:02:15 AM): yes
spies6Boris (8:03:26 AM): ok, i remember why now, i was trying to get roxy to tell me about her suspicions in episode one, and it was very hard to drag them out of her
spies6Boris (8:03:56 AM): and that was wierdest action in my mind that round
spies6Boris (8:04:31 AM): paris was different matter
spies6Boris (8:04:49 AM): i was really not around that much last episode because of new room mate moving in
spies6Boris (8:04:57 AM): so i had to go more on what evidence was available
spies6Boris (8:05:26 AM): the most damning thing in my mind was that alma wanted to talk to him so desperately even though he said they had only talked to each other once before the exile
spies6Kirsten (8:05:36 AM): yeah, that was suspect
spies6Boris (8:05:46 AM): though that turned out to be coincidence i guess
spies6Kirsten (8:06:10 AM): what do you think about his exile being an overwhelming majority?
spies6Boris (8:06:47 AM): i think he was bandwaggoned
spies6Boris (8:07:12 AM): or there was not better candidate
spies6Boris (8:07:16 AM): i know iris was the other one
spies6Boris (8:07:25 AM): but evidence against her was not good
spies6Boris (8:07:45 AM): from that whole yvette rob debacle
spies6Kirsten (8:07:50 AM): basically that she was one of the 5 people in on the save robert campaign and she thought callahan might have had a role or something?
spies6Boris (8:08:12 AM): yes, that whole thing
spies6Kirsten (8:08:23 AM): do you think anyone looked suspicious who voted for Paris?
spies6Boris (8:09:17 AM): unfortunately, i can not say with any definition, since i was not on a whole lot, and haven't gauged why people are voting for others that round
spies6Boris (8:10:12 AM): so i must give you wishy washy answer of i don't know
spies6Kirsten (8:10:19 AM): wishy-washy!
spies6Kirsten (8:10:24 AM): clearly, you are a spy
spies6Boris (8:10:38 AM): yes, that is most likely deduction to be made
spies6Kirsten (8:10:46 AM): so, what are you thinking about this upcoming exile?
spies6Kirsten (8:10:52 AM): and I will step forward and make that deduction.
spies6Boris (8:11:14 AM): yvette
spies6Boris (8:11:29 AM): though i am going to take time to read your analysis of donald later today
spies6Boris (8:11:43 AM): jenya and i were talking on off day (wednesday)
spies6Kirsten (8:11:53 AM): yvette is a name I have heard around. I can't say I agree, but I'm interested to hear why
spies6Boris (8:11:55 AM): and we noticed strange thing in last exile chat
spies6Boris (8:12:21 AM): yvette voted for paris, and before paris's alignment was made public, she very much thought he was a spy
spies6Kirsten (8:12:33 AM): well...
spies6Kirsten (8:12:39 AM): Yvette wasn't even on your team
spies6Kirsten (8:12:43 AM): she voted for jaya
spies6Boris (8:12:49 AM): . . .
spies6Boris (8:12:51 AM): yes, this is true
spies6Boris (8:12:53 AM): hold on
spies6Boris (8:12:57 AM): i can find extract
spies6Boris (8:13:00 AM): it is easier to just show
spies6Kirsten (8:13:07 AM): I've seen it already
spies6Kirsten (8:13:10 AM):
spies6Kirsten (8:13:27 AM): I know what you're talking abuot...but she didn't vote for Paris, which is why I'm confused
spies6Boris (8:14:11 AM): . . . now i am confused
spies6Kirsten (8:14:24 AM): spies6Boris (8:12:21 AM): yvette voted for paris, and before paris's alignment was made public, she very much thought he was a spy
spies6Boris (8:14:40 AM): i know what i said, i am confused about conversation with jenya now
spies6Kirsten (8:14:40 AM): but she was on my team, voted Jaya, who turned out spy
spies6Kirsten (8:14:45 AM): gotcha
spies6Boris (8:15:02 AM): i tell you what
spies6Boris (8:15:09 AM): i am going to get back to you on this whole issue
spies6Kirsten (8:15:13 AM): haha, alright
spies6Boris (8:15:28 AM): though this has been enlightening
spies6Boris (8:16:42 AM): i would also like to talk to you in future about your voting, simply for sake of me getting to know you better
spies6Kirsten (8:16:49 AM): my thoughts on Yvette is that the evidence you're talking about, which is her reaction to Paris being "not a citizen" is the only real solid point against her, but I think it's coincidental, in that I could see a citizen arriving at that same reaction.
spies6Boris (8:17:11 AM): yes, i am feeling as if i was played
spies6Kirsten (8:17:15 AM): and from what I'm gathering, she kind of helped lead the bandwagon on jaya, which I doubt was her bussing Jaya, although I need to see those chats still
spies6Boris (8:17:56 AM): yes, that would be in her favor. i think losing one spy at beginning would deter the spy team from wanting to get rid of another
spies6Kirsten (8:18:07 AM): yeah
spies6Boris (8:18:52 AM): i must be going
spies6Boris (8:19:03 AM): will you be at other challenges
spies6Boris (8:19:03 AM): ?
spies6Kirsten (8:19:12 AM): I haev to work all day today, so I'll miss most
spies6Boris (8:19:17 AM): oh
spies6Kirsten (8:19:18 AM): I'll be at the 11 PM CST and the 1 am
spies6Boris (8:19:21 AM): ok
spies6Boris (8:19:24 AM): that sounds maximal
spies6Boris (8:19:29 AM): i will see you later
spies6Kirsten (8:19:32 AM): bye
spies6Boris (8:19:36 AM): bye

[Kirsten]

spies10Xoe (7:57:55 AM): oh kirsten one of my favorites from this season
spies6Kirsten (7:58:09 AM): great!
spies10Xoe (7:58:40 AM): the future would be dim without youre gameplay and strategies there are many moves people base off in spies ten youre gameplay
spies6Kirsten (7:59:00 AM): awesome! I'm glad to be a revolutionary
spies10Xoe (7:59:08 AM): you definietley are
spies6Kirsten (7:59:11 AM):
spies10Xoe (7:59:15 AM): so can u tell me who all is online besides youreself
spies6Kirsten (7:59:32 AM): boris, and gretchen i think
spies10Xoe (8:00:53 AM): well thanks
spies10Xoe (8:00:57 AM): so how is this season going for you
spies6Kirsten (8:01:07 AM): pretty well so far
spies10Xoe (8:01:09 AM): from all the seasons i watched this is a very slow boring season
spies6Kirsten (8:01:15 AM): apparently a lot better later if you are to be believed
spies10Xoe (8:01:27 AM): season nine is one of my favorites
spies10Xoe (8:01:34 AM): and the season i am in now is amazing
spies6Kirsten (8:01:36 AM): oh yeah?
spies6Kirsten (8:01:42 AM): what about spike?

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (10:03:41 PM): how's it going?
spies6ellis (10:03:53 PM): hi
spies6ellis (10:03:54 PM): good, thanks
spies6ellis (10:04:04 PM): actually I wanted to catch you
spies6Kirsten (10:04:18 PM): catch me doing what?
spies6ellis (10:04:39 PM): Chilling, hopefully.
spies6Kirsten (10:04:50 PM):
spies6Kirsten (10:05:04 PM): I shuold be on for a while, so have at it!
spies6ellis (10:05:04 PM): Anyway, can I have a private word a sec?
spies6Kirsten (10:05:08 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:05:24 PM): So I've done an analysis of the counting, checkers and alphabet challenges
spies6ellis (10:05:38 PM): which I'll happily send across to you by PM if you want
spies6Kirsten (10:05:43 PM): yeah, I'd love to see it
spies6ellis (10:06:03 PM): Well the conclusion is that my good friend Levi is probably a nasty spy.
spies6ellis (10:06:15 PM): Which I'm guessing you wouldn't be too surprised at.
spies6Kirsten (10:06:36 PM): actually, I'm not as suspicous of him as I once was, but he's still definitely on my list
spies6ellis (10:06:44 PM): Well I was wondering
spies6Kirsten (10:06:45 PM): and no, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's a spy
spies6ellis (10:06:50 PM): it was the pins challenge that settled me really
spies6ellis (10:07:04 PM): everyone was guessing low and then he guesses 107, when the answer was 237
spies6ellis (10:07:17 PM): It's just over 100, low enough to really skew the results
spies6ellis (10:07:22 PM): but not in the double figures so not noticeable
spies6ellis (10:07:37 PM): Anyway he has two penalty points this exile
spies6Kirsten (10:07:41 PM): I heard from someone else that people had to intentionally guess really high to offset
spies6ellis (10:07:45 PM): I did
spies6ellis (10:07:48 PM): I guessed 550
spies6Kirsten (10:07:50 PM): haha
spies6ellis (10:07:52 PM): Jason guessed 379
spies6ellis (10:07:57 PM): I was the last one to guess.
spies6ellis (10:08:06 PM): Won the challenge with that one guess.
spies6Kirsten (10:08:13 PM): hehe, nice
spies6Kirsten (10:08:38 PM): not that I suspected you anyway, but after the checkers game I felt good about you, and better about Boris
spies6ellis (10:08:39 PM): I'll send you my notes
spies6ellis (10:08:42 PM): Oh yes
spies6ellis (10:08:47 PM): you and Boris = citizens in my mind
spies6ellis (10:08:59 PM): You already were, and Boris was vouched for by a few citizenish people
spies6Kirsten (10:09:06 PM): Boris I am on the fence about, but he seemed to legitimately help out there, which gives him some points
spies6ellis (10:09:29 PM): I'm glad I think he's a citizen, because he is SO FUNNY.
spies6ellis (10:09:42 PM): "I speak like Heavy Weapons Guy from Team Fortress 2, I am very good Russian!"
spies6Kirsten (10:09:49 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (10:10:19 PM): we ended up winning overall, not sure if you saw that or not
spies6Kirsten (10:10:25 PM): the last challenge was really close...
spies6ellis (10:10:26 PM): I didn't
spies6ellis (10:10:31 PM): what was the cat / dog / fish challenge?
spies6Kirsten (10:10:34 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:10:44 PM): I actually PM'd Sam about that before I came online because I didn't know if it had finished
spies6Kirsten (10:10:47 PM): we had to get 6 people to guess it and get in the chat room (out of 10) before the 2 future players got it
spies6ellis (10:11:09 PM): Oooooh I'd love to see an analysis of that
spies6Kirsten (10:11:10 PM): we sat at 5 players for like 3-4 minutes
spies6ellis (10:11:11 PM): Who were the six?
spies6Kirsten (10:11:28 PM): thor->Jenya->myself->Faith->gabriela->Khaled
spies6ellis (10:11:36 PM): None of whom I suspect
spies6Kirsten (10:11:40 PM): iris came in a little later, and Georgia, Roxy, Oswald were really late
spies6ellis (10:11:53 PM): All of whom I DO suspect, lol
spies6Kirsten (10:11:56 PM): haha
spies6ellis (10:12:07 PM): Thor was really good in the counting challenges
spies6ellis (10:12:15 PM): So I'm leaning citizen on him
spies6ellis (10:12:23 PM): not as much as on you and Boris, but I'm fairly comfortable
spies6ellis (10:12:32 PM): Again, I'll send you my analysis if you want
spies6ellis (10:12:34 PM): BUT
spies6ellis (10:12:38 PM): My immediate issue is Levi
spies6Kirsten (10:12:51 PM): was it just the pin challenge?
spies6ellis (10:12:53 PM): He and Oswald are big, big suspects in my eyes
spies6Kirsten (10:13:00 PM): I'm suspicious of Oswald actually
spies6ellis (10:13:03 PM): Other things as well, some of them you brought up yourself
spies6Kirsten (10:13:05 PM): based just on the challenges alone
spies6ellis (10:13:13 PM): but on the challenges, both of them are big suspects
spies6Kirsten (10:13:23 PM): I'm also suspicious of Donald...not sure if you saw my post on him
spies6ellis (10:13:26 PM): I did
spies6ellis (10:13:52 PM): I won't comment for the moment, I haven't read it in detail because of the challenge thing
spies6Kirsten (10:14:01 PM): what makes you think Faith is a citizen?
spies6ellis (10:14:15 PM): For one thing she did really really well in the counting challenges
spies6Kirsten (10:14:25 PM): I feel comfortable about the others from the initial 6, but she's a moderate suspect in my mind
spies6ellis (10:14:33 PM): For another I've spoken to her a bit
spies6ellis (10:14:39 PM): Her thoughts are similar to mine
spies6ellis (10:14:49 PM): and I'm always comfortable when that happens because I think I'm on the right track
spies6Kirsten (10:14:59 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:15:09 PM): and if someone else shares my opinions... well, they wouldn't suspect their fellow spies that overtly at this point
spies6ellis (10:15:11 PM): I could be wrong though
spies6Kirsten (10:15:26 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:15:34 PM): I think the spies aren't interested in busing at this point
spies6Kirsten (10:15:48 PM): with 2.5 down after 2 episodes.
spies6ellis (10:15:57 PM): Well anyway, Levi
spies6ellis (10:16:01 PM): I think he's a big suspect
spies6ellis (10:16:13 PM): and he has a +2 penalty, which might be decisive
spies6Kirsten (10:16:16 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:16:20 PM): who else got the penalty?
spies6Kirsten (10:16:22 PM): Thor?
spies6ellis (10:16:29 PM): Thor and Oswald
spies6ellis (10:16:35 PM): Thor I don't really suspect but Oswald I do
spies6Kirsten (10:16:37 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:16:48 PM): I'm actually suspicious of one of his recent burg posts
spies6ellis (10:16:50 PM): My other suspects would be Amelia, perhaps Mirela, perhaps Ed or Iris
spies6Kirsten (10:16:51 PM): let me find it
spies6Kirsten (10:16:58 PM): in the goodbye thread
spies6ellis (10:17:42 PM): While you do that, one other point about Oswald: he wasn't happy when we won Checkers.
spies6Kirsten (10:17:46 PM): it's the fact that he says he trusted Mei Yun 100%
spies6Kirsten (10:17:51 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (10:17:53 PM): I noticed that
spies6ellis (10:17:56 PM): that was Levi as well, lol
spies6ellis (10:17:58 PM): But yes
spies6ellis (10:18:03 PM): I've played a few mole games
spies6ellis (10:18:16 PM): and one of the big tells there is that often the mole is frustrated at something unimportant when a challenge is won
spies6ellis (10:18:26 PM): like they're venting because they wanted to sabotage it, and failed
spies6Kirsten (10:18:31 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:18:41 PM): that's a tell in mafia too at some points
spies6ellis (10:18:49 PM): It could be one here.
spies6ellis (10:19:30 PM): Anyway, between ourselves (and I will mention this to a few other select citizens)
spies6ellis (10:19:36 PM): if you want to lynch Levi, I would be on board.
spies6Kirsten (10:19:37 PM): I remember having a player get mad at me for claiming once and outing scum because they felt I should have waited on the information another day...it was really just them venting at having their team exposed.
spies6ellis (10:20:06 PM): Actually there's a few people whose lynch I'd be comfortable with, but I'd rather one of us starts it.
spies6Kirsten (10:20:10 PM): at this point, I'm not entirely sure. I might prefer a Donald lynch
spies6ellis (10:20:31 PM): I'll read your case on him properly before I comment on that one.
spies6Kirsten (10:20:57 PM): he did seem interested in helping for the challenges, I will give him that. Although he didn't say much during the checkers one.
spies6Kirsten (10:21:02 PM): Donald, that is
spies6ellis (10:21:08 PM): The reason I'm pushing Levi and Oswald is because, apart from me suspecting them, they already have penalty votes.
spies6Kirsten (10:21:18 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:21:24 PM): And it's not like they didn't deserve them... I goggled at what they were saying
spies6Kirsten (10:21:32 PM): what did they say?
spies6ellis (10:21:36 PM): What Sam posted
spies6ellis (10:21:40 PM): about "if I'm imprisoned, suspect..."
spies6Kirsten (10:21:46 PM): ah
spies6ellis (10:22:06 PM): But I'm far from ruling out Donald.
spies6Kirsten (10:22:11 PM): what do you think about the whole "congratulating the doc" scum tell?
spies6Kirsten (10:22:41 PM): meaning, cheering when something happens that benefits the citizens almost excessively?
spies6ellis (10:23:01 PM): Could be insincere, personally I'd prefer to stay quiet if I were scum in that situation
spies6ellis (10:23:04 PM): but not all of them do
spies6ellis (10:23:12 PM): I'd expect that kind of tell from an inexperienced scum
spies6Kirsten (10:24:13 PM): there seems to be a growing push on Yvette
spies6Kirsten (10:24:24 PM): at least from what I've gathered
spies6ellis (10:24:45 PM): Uh-huh.
spies6ellis (10:24:51 PM): Levi thinks he has my support on that one.
spies6Kirsten (10:24:54 PM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (10:25:08 PM): I don't think anyone thinks they have my support on that one
spies6ellis (10:25:23 PM): Actually I get the impression he thinks he has a lot more support than he actually does... I'm not the only one playing at making friends with the spies.
spies6ellis (10:25:32 PM): I know Jenya suspects Yvette
spies6Kirsten (10:25:35 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:25:44 PM): which is annoying, because I've seen her reasons for it and they're pretty bad in my opinion
spies6Kirsten (10:25:58 PM): Boris did as well, although he thought Yvette voted for Paris, and was confused when I informed him otherwise
spies6ellis (10:25:59 PM): so I'm hoping she's trying to pull a stunt to out the people who agree with her flawed reasoning
spies6ellis (10:26:08 PM): (which Levi did btw)
spies6ellis (10:26:13 PM): Oh that's interesting
spies6Kirsten (10:26:16 PM): I think she legitimately believes her reasons add up to Yvette being scum
spies6ellis (10:26:17 PM): Yvette wasn't even on our team
spies6Kirsten (10:26:24 PM): right
spies6ellis (10:26:38 PM): I'm not sure what people think of the Paris exile
spies6Kirsten (10:26:47 PM): I'm trying to determine whether or not he legitimately didn't know, or whether he was just pretending to not know.
spies6ellis (10:27:01 PM): The "official" version is I had nothing ot do with it, I was just a follower until the last hour or so
spies6ellis (10:27:38 PM): And as long as people aren't suspecting me I'd like to keep it that way
spies6Kirsten (10:27:39 PM): I can't remember if I asked you this before, but do you know anything about the Jaya exile?
spies6ellis (10:27:47 PM): Nothing at all
spies6ellis (10:27:50 PM): I was actually against it
spies6ellis (10:27:58 PM): I thought she was being framed by Alma and Paris.
spies6Kirsten (10:27:59 PM): yeah, that's right
spies6ellis (10:28:02 PM): Guess I got that one wrong.
spies6Kirsten (10:28:14 PM): I'm trying to figure out how that went down.
spies6ellis (10:28:25 PM): Yvette has claimed to have pushed for it
spies6Kirsten (10:28:27 PM): Yvette/Thor/Ariel were all the surprise votes there
spies6Kirsten (10:28:30 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:28:31 PM): and from what I can gather, she's telling the truth
spies6Kirsten (10:28:39 PM): well, she had Jaya as one of her top 2
spies6ellis (10:28:43 PM): Those three were the shock citizens I think
spies6Kirsten (10:28:47 PM): at the very beginning of the episode
spies6ellis (10:28:51 PM): They were working together to make the spies think they had Gretchen covered
spies6ellis (10:28:58 PM): Good strategy, and one I'm trying now with Levi
spies6Kirsten (10:29:18 PM): I think Thor and Yvette are citizens
spies6Kirsten (10:29:21 PM): I'm less sure on Ariel
spies6ellis (10:29:31 PM): I think all three myself
spies6ellis (10:29:46 PM): Ariel's actions over the first two episodes are pretty conclusive to my mind
spies6ellis (10:29:52 PM): Of course I've been wrong before.
spies6Kirsten (10:29:56 PM): hehe
spies6ellis (10:30:02 PM): But still... I cannot see an atom of reason to suspect Ariel.
spies6Kirsten (10:30:14 PM): I'm just worried because she's done practically no spy hunting whatsoever, and seems to just follow after Yvette
spies6ellis (10:30:15 PM): What's she supposed to have done, apart from being directly responsible for exiling two spies?
spies6ellis (10:30:40 PM): haha I really, really hope the spies share the opinion you just posted
spies6ellis (10:30:59 PM): it'll keep her nice and safe and unsuspected.
spies6Kirsten (10:31:21 PM): I was surprised about Mei Yun being imprisoned.
spies6ellis (10:31:29 PM): At first so was I
spies6ellis (10:31:45 PM): but then, most of the spies probably knew her better than they knew the people I would consider threats to them.
spies6ellis (10:31:48 PM): I actually suspected Mei Yun
spies6Kirsten (10:31:53 PM): I did too
spies6ellis (10:31:55 PM): but I didn't let my suspects know that I did.
spies6Kirsten (10:32:07 PM): she flip-flopped a lot on Levi in our private chats
spies6ellis (10:32:08 PM): If the spies are taking out my suspects, I don't have to.
spies6Kirsten (10:32:47 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:33:03 PM): I expected someone from your original team
spies6Kirsten (10:33:06 PM): to get imprisoned
spies6ellis (10:33:37 PM): I did too, but if the spies want to ignore that threat, I'm happy to let them.
spies6ellis (10:33:46 PM): I'm just worried that maybe Mei had a role or something
spies6ellis (10:33:49 PM): and that's why she was taken out.
spies6Kirsten (10:33:53 PM): same
spies6Kirsten (10:34:13 PM): that was the first thing I posted in my confessional when I saw, because otherwise it didn' tmake sense
spies6ellis (10:35:18 PM): Ed, Donald William
spies6ellis (10:35:26 PM): Those are the three people who voted Gretchen along with you
spies6ellis (10:35:31 PM): Why did you by the way?
spies6Kirsten (10:35:42 PM): it was a last minute decision actually.
spies6Kirsten (10:36:14 PM): I missed that episode entirely because I had friends in town over the weekend...I had to vote off of what I had read up on over 1 night without really any chats.
spies6ellis (10:36:33 PM):
spies6Kirsten (10:36:35 PM): basically, she was pushing to exile Roxy really hard, but her reasons weren't based on thinkin Roxy was a spy, but more that we would learn good information
spies6ellis (10:36:45 PM): Yes, Roxy said that
spies6ellis (10:36:50 PM): it's a horrible reason to exile someone
spies6Kirsten (10:36:55 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:37:06 PM): I remember a mafia game where literally every lynching was to "gain information"
spies6ellis (10:37:15 PM): and the mafia didn't lose a single member, lol
spies6Kirsten (10:37:25 PM): my thought was that she was simply riding her episode 1 suspicions instead of having to try to fake spyhunting and find new suspects, etc.
spies6Kirsten (10:37:47 PM): also, she never once posted in the "Roxy is a spy" thread, despite that being her vote
spies6ellis (10:38:02 PM): fair enough
spies6Kirsten (10:38:22 PM): oh, I despise information lynches
spies6Kirsten (10:38:48 PM): every lynch gives information. The best information comes from lynching scum...so lynch people you think are scum makes the most sense.
spies6Kirsten (10:39:16 PM): my reason for suspecting Donald comes from his vote on Gretchen, actually, though
spies6Kirsten (10:39:48 PM): and the chat we had were he decided to place that vote
spies6ellis (10:40:11 PM): Well I think there's certainly at least one spy in the Gretchen votors, maybe two or three
spies6ellis (10:40:15 PM): and it's between Donald, Ed and William
spies6ellis (10:40:19 PM): all nice looking suspects.
spies6Kirsten (10:40:23 PM): I think Ed is a citizen, actually
spies6ellis (10:40:45 PM): Why Ed?
spies6Kirsten (10:40:56 PM): first reason is that Jaya voted him and wanted to exile him
spies6Kirsten (10:41:24 PM): the second is that he seems very citizen from chats we've had and the group chat from our team last exile
spies6Kirsten (10:42:19 PM): He drew a lot of suspicion to himself by arguing with Yvette and Ariel over their fake Robert suspicions. I don't see that as the pro-spy play in that scenario
spies6Kirsten (10:42:35 PM): Ariel was originally planning to vote him over that, but ended up swapping to Jaya at some point.
spies6ellis (10:43:05 PM): Interesting.
spies6Kirsten (10:43:29 PM): William has always been a lingering suspect of mine, but never really something I've pursued
spies6Kirsten (10:43:52 PM): Donald was my original suspect episode 1, I started to think he was more citizen over time, and then went back to thinking he's a spy recently
spies6ellis (10:43:54 PM): I think that's the case with all three for most people.
spies6ellis (10:44:00 PM): But anyway
spies6ellis (10:44:03 PM): I've sent you my analysis
spies6ellis (10:44:11 PM): It goes without saying I think you and Boris are citizens
spies6Kirsten (10:44:12 PM): alright,good.
spies6Kirsten (10:44:29 PM): I'm not sold on Boris, but he's not a top suspect of mine right now
spies6ellis (10:44:49 PM): Well I'm not sure, but I like him for a citizen
spies6ellis (10:44:54 PM): if I had to name the spies right now they'd be...
spies6ellis (10:44:57 PM): let's see...
spies6ellis (10:45:03 PM): Donald, I can go with.
spies6ellis (10:45:07 PM): William or Ed maybe.
spies6ellis (10:45:10 PM): Amelia.
spies6ellis (10:45:12 PM): Levi.
spies6ellis (10:45:14 PM): And...
spies6ellis (10:45:23 PM): Mirela possibly?
spies6Kirsten (10:45:46 PM): I feel good on Mirela
spies6ellis (10:45:53 PM): as a spy or a citizen/
spies6ellis (10:45:55 PM): ?
spies6Kirsten (10:46:03 PM): but it's mostly just vibe from chatting with her, not any concrete evidence
spies6Kirsten (10:46:05 PM): as a citizen
spies6ellis (10:46:44 PM): Read my challenge analysis before you make up your mind for certain
spies6Kirsten (10:46:51 PM): ok
spies6ellis (10:46:51 PM): She chose 105 pins after Levi went for 107
spies6ellis (10:47:02 PM): Which suggests one or the other or possibly both is a spy, since they were both going for very low numbers
spies6ellis (10:47:22 PM): The post counting challenge wasn't much better, both were low in that as well
spies6Kirsten (10:47:31 PM): she was suspicious of the people who voted really high . i tried to explain to her that people did it to correct for low votes, but she didn't seem to buy that explanation.
spies6ellis (10:47:40 PM): lol
spies6ellis (10:47:45 PM): ok she and I are no longer friends then
spies6Kirsten (10:47:52 PM): haha
spies6ellis (10:47:58 PM): I won't mention to her that you told me
spies6ellis (10:48:08 PM): and everything I've said to you stays between us, ok?
spies6Kirsten (10:48:11 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:48:30 PM): I'd prefer that you were not imprisoned.
spies6ellis (10:48:40 PM): At this point I'd be surprised if I was
spies6ellis (10:48:59 PM): everything I've done, apart from pushing the Paris exile towards the end, has been fairly low key
spies6Kirsten (10:49:02 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:49:07 PM): you are keeping a low profile.
spies6ellis (10:49:15 PM): there's challenge performance perhaps, but I sucked at the celebrity trivia thing
spies6ellis (10:49:48 PM): my danger point is nobody really suspects me I think
spies6ellis (10:49:53 PM): but then that's true of so many people right now...
spies6Kirsten (10:49:57 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:50:04 PM): the same can be said of the majority of your original team
spies6ellis (10:50:15 PM): And not just then
spies6Kirsten (10:50:17 PM): and most of them are more high-profile (though that's not necessarily who would be imprisoned)
spies6ellis (10:50:18 PM): them even
spies6ellis (10:50:36 PM): After two spy lynches, there are obvious citizens all over the place now
spies6Kirsten (10:50:41 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:50:43 PM): the spies are running out of places to hide.
spies6ellis (10:50:45 PM): It's awesome.
spies6Kirsten (10:50:57 PM): I think anyone on your original team at this point is a citizen. That's what, 6, 7 players?
spies6ellis (10:51:06 PM): Yes.
spies6Kirsten (10:51:07 PM): + the people on Jaya's exile.
spies6ellis (10:51:23 PM): Not all of them, but likely most of them are citizens.
spies6Kirsten (10:51:36 PM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:51:40 PM): lol
spies6ellis (10:51:44 PM): Jaya voting Ed.
spies6ellis (10:51:50 PM): My first impression was she didn't know which way was up
spies6ellis (10:51:54 PM): and that's still the case.
spies6Kirsten (10:51:57 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:52:13 PM): I wrote her off as "leaning citizen" based on my impression that she was simply clueless
spies6Kirsten (10:52:26 PM): and, she was, but clueless can still be a spy
spies6ellis (10:52:45 PM): well I think they're not good at teamwork
spies6ellis (10:52:58 PM): Alma looked like she was being coached or just breaking character
spies6ellis (10:53:10 PM): and now, knowing Jaya is a spy... I would have to go with breaking character
spies6ellis (10:53:22 PM): because it didn't look like those two were getting good ideas from anyone else
spies6ellis (10:53:38 PM): anyway I'm going to say goodbye
spies6Kirsten (10:54:02 PM): alright. I'll read your analysis. I'll probably send back my thoughts + information from the last challenge.
spies6ellis (10:54:14 PM): yes, please do that
spies6Kirsten (10:54:16 PM): I missed the ones in between
spies6ellis (10:54:22 PM): everyone who got into that chatroom first six is a citizen, lol
spies6Kirsten (10:54:43 PM): at least first 5 look like it (though I still linger doubts on faith)
spies6Kirsten (10:54:48 PM): 6th was way behind 5th
spies6Kirsten (10:55:17 PM): and since everyone had to log off AIM and go individual, anyone after that point could have simply thought they had waited long enough
spies6ellis (10:55:48 PM): ok well good night
spies6Kirsten (10:55:54 PM): good night

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (1:12:21 AM): what do you think about that last challenge
spies6Gabriela (1:12:59 AM): oh, hi. you mean the animal puzzle one?
spies6Kirsten (1:13:04 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:13:16 AM): do you think any of the slow people were doing so intentionally?
spies6Gabriela (1:14:22 AM): its very much wifom, but would they want to risk it? imo, that was a pretty easy puzzle. if i were a spy i would have been banking on qi and mel to do it quickly.
spies6Kirsten (1:14:37 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:15:04 AM): I'm just surprised Khaled took so long, for example. It seems the kind of puzzle he would be quick to complete
spies6Gabriela (1:16:02 AM): if memory serves, at the beginning he was voicing concern about it. did confuse me a bit as well, now that you mention it.
spies6Gabriela (1:16:23 AM): but technically he was #6, it was him who gave us the win
spies6Kirsten (1:16:27 AM): right
spies6Kirsten (1:16:43 AM): although anyone after you took long enough to where they could have been banking on mel + qi already being done
spies6Gabriela (1:16:44 AM): which, the more i think about it, is great timing for a spy
spies6Gabriela (1:16:52 AM): win, and youre the hero
spies6Gabriela (1:16:57 AM): lose, cant say you didnt try
spies6Kirsten (1:17:13 AM): meh, I think the heroes were the earliest done
spies6Gabriela (1:18:03 AM): one thing i will say in any of their defense, i think i spent as much time waiting for sams reply as i did solving the puzzle. i actually solved it again whil i was waiting to doublecheck.
spies6Gabriela (1:18:27 AM): maybe with all the messages being sent, there was a lag?
spies6Kirsten (1:18:38 AM): I did the same
spies6Kirsten (1:18:45 AM): that is true
spies6Kirsten (1:18:51 AM): I solved it, sent it off
spies6Kirsten (1:18:58 AM): double + triple checked in the meantime
spies6Kirsten (1:19:45 AM): although, I would assume Sam simply answered PMs chronologically
spies6Gabriela (1:20:03 AM): me too, but wh knows
spies6Gabriela (1:20:17 AM): in terms of challenge suspicion, im most worried abour william
spies6Kirsten (1:20:51 AM): what challenges did he do?
spies6Gabriela (1:20:57 AM): in the 20 questions on jenya said the right answer, and rey was going to guess it, but william told him not to do i never was guessed.
spies6Kirsten (1:21:20 AM): hmm
spies6Gabriela (1:21:45 AM): if the spies were working with the future players, which i suspect they were, he could have known and intentionally blew the answer
spies6Kirsten (1:22:17 AM): right
spies6Kirsten (1:22:28 AM): well, I would guess they were working with future players based on that one matching challenge
spies6Gabriela (1:22:38 AM): that too
spies6Gabriela (1:22:50 AM): i shouldnt have said the answer in the chat, i just should have guessed it. :/
spies6Kirsten (1:22:55 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (1:23:02 AM): yeah
spies6Gabriela (1:23:32 AM): finding that one was dumb luck on my part. for bo (or whoever) to find it at the exact same time. its a stretch.
spies6Kirsten (1:23:43 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:23:45 AM): was it just him
spies6Kirsten (1:23:48 AM): just one future player?
spies6Kirsten (1:23:54 AM): against all of you?
spies6Gabriela (1:24:16 AM): yes. but i think he was given the puzzle whole, while we were given it in pieces.
spies6Kirsten (1:24:29 AM): ah, ok
spies6Gabriela (1:24:35 AM): and it was spike, not bo (as if that matters)
spies6Gabriela (1:25:03 AM): but william wasnt in that chat, so we cant blame him on both, lol
spies6Kirsten (1:25:05 AM): if it was just him and he had the same clues as you, then there is no way he gets the answer by himselfat the same time
spies6Kirsten (1:25:11 AM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (1:25:26 AM): from the 2 challenges I was in
spies6Kirsten (1:25:45 AM): boris looked good from the checkers challenge. Along with myself, we basically provided all the guesses
spies6Kirsten (1:25:51 AM): or moves
spies6Kirsten (1:25:52 AM): rather
spies6Gabriela (1:26:11 AM): thats one i missed, but i gather it went well
spies6Kirsten (1:26:22 AM): and then that last challenge. I'd say Khaled looks bad, as well as any of the really late people.
spies6Kirsten (1:26:23 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:26:26 AM): we won quite easily
spies6Gabriela (1:26:36 AM): i was surprised to see faith in there, honestly
spies6Kirsten (1:26:47 AM): same
spies6Kirsten (1:27:04 AM): she was one of my suspects, and not someone I would naturally assume to get that challenge quickly
spies6Kirsten (1:27:15 AM): I would give her +cit points for being quick to answer
spies6Gabriela (1:27:31 AM): shes someone who could have gotten away with being slow, because, well, i dont think people have that high of an opinion of her intelligence.
spies6Kirsten (1:27:37 AM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (1:27:38 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:27:46 AM): well, I think she's a lot smarter than she appears
spies6Kirsten (1:27:51 AM): but I do think she could have gotten away with being slow
spies6Gabriela (1:28:18 AM): so if shes scum, that right there will buy her a few rounds if the pressure ever gets on her
spies6Kirsten (1:28:36 AM): maybe. It depends on the strength of the case
spies6Gabriela (1:28:42 AM): agreed
spies6Kirsten (1:29:06 AM): I feel like challenge performance gives some indication toward citizen or spy, but I wouldn't base an exile on it alone.
spies6Gabriela (1:29:32 AM): it is pretty circumstancial. this is mafia, not mole, after all
spies6Gabriela (1:29:55 AM): there was a question i wanted to ask you
spies6Kirsten (1:29:59 AM): sure
spies6Gabriela (1:30:33 AM): its a chat snippit. want to show you, and see what your gut reaction is. not to much though, just immediate impression.
spies6Kirsten (1:30:40 AM): ok
spies6Gabriela (1:30:55 AM): spies6donald: When and where was it revealed that Mirela was replaced?
spies6Gabriela: ill link it in a sec
spies6donald: okay, thanks
spies6Gabriela: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=775
spies6donald: wow, I'm surprised I missed that
spies6Gabriela: hehe, theres a lot going on in the burg, i can see a thread slipping by
spies6donald: yeah
spies6donald: and when I see a name in the title, I assume it's a case
spies6Gabriela: helps to take a peek at who posted it, i guess
spies6donald: true
spies6Kirsten (1:31:33 AM): my gut reaction is why is he ignoring cases?
spies6Gabriela (1:31:43 AM): exactly!!!
spies6Kirsten (1:32:03 AM): hehe
spies6Kirsten (1:32:14 AM): oh, it's just a case...let me skip on by cause I'm a spy and don't really care?
spies6Gabriela (1:32:25 AM): when he said that my head almost spun
spies6Gabriela (1:32:57 AM): if that isnt scummy, then im not sure what is.
spies6Kirsten (1:33:08 AM): well, I think he's a spy, so...
spies6Kirsten (1:33:11 AM): icing on the cake
spies6Kirsten (1:33:36 AM): I caught him in a lie in my thread I just made on him.
spies6Gabriela (1:33:42 AM): im planning on picking someone else and asking them what they think. if they say the same thing, im going to post it in your thread.
spies6Kirsten (1:33:51 AM): ok
spies6Gabriela (1:33:55 AM): so i might be chiming in tomorrow (later today, whatever)
spies6Kirsten (1:34:00 AM): right
spies6Gabriela (1:34:26 AM): caught him in a lie? i missed that, let me go read.
spies6Kirsten (1:34:44 AM): I'm not sure it's the kind of lie that makes him automatically a spy, but he can't keep his story straight
spies6Kirsten (1:34:58 AM): and that's at least suspicious enough that I think there's a strong chance he's a spy
spies6Gabriela (1:37:02 AM): i dont know if its a confession, but its never a good sign when you cant keep the facts straight
spies6Kirsten (1:38:06 AM): I think the way he acted in that chat is suspicious enough. He came into the chat with his vote on Roxy, and swapped to voting Gretchen midway through
spies6Kirsten (1:38:10 AM): it was pretty shady
spies6Gabriela (1:40:14 AM): he mentioned that to me a little bit. something about gretchen wanting to vote roxy because it would give information on ariel, and didnt want to seem to budge from that. guess he didnt take too kindly to that idea.
spies6Gabriela (1:41:02 AM): seem to want to, midl dyslexia
spies6Kirsten (1:41:33 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:41:56 AM): the issue, however, is that he had his vote on Roxy originally when he went into that chat
spies6Kirsten (1:42:27 AM): and after 8 minutes of chatting with me changed to Gretchen. Now he says he had it on Gretchen all along, which is clearly a lie, because in the chat he mentioned that he was going to go change it to Gretchen, suggesting he had it on Roxy originally.
spies6Gabriela (1:43:40 AM): something in there definitly isnt right.
spies6Gabriela (1:49:46 AM): im glad sam gave us the later exile option. with the challenge going on, i think spy hunting has fallen out of the minds of some people. glad we get a couple days to evaluate everything.
spies6Kirsten (1:50:05 AM): I will miss the exile yet again
spies6Kirsten (1:50:09 AM): haven't made one yet...
spies6Kirsten (1:50:12 AM): but I am glad about it
spies6Kirsten (1:50:47 AM): I'm the only one who has posted any form of suspicion, and only 1 other person has even commented on it. We definitely need the extra day
spies6Gabriela (1:52:34 AM): hopefully itll change tomorrow.
spies6Kirsten (1:52:44 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:52:47 AM): I'm sure it will
spies6Gabriela (2:06:56 AM): ok, im off for now. night.
spies6Kirsten (2:07:01 AM): good night

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (10:03:48 PM): hi
spies6mirela (10:04:01 PM): hello kirsten
spies6mirela (10:04:28 PM): how are you?
spies6Kirsten (10:04:45 PM): doing good. Happy we won the challenges
spies6mirela (10:04:53 PM): yay
spies6mirela (10:04:57 PM): what do we win?
spies6Kirsten (10:05:18 PM): citizens with roles get upgrades
spies6Kirsten (10:05:30 PM): and we get the power to investigate if someone has a role or not
spies6mirela (10:06:28 PM): who decides which citizens get the upgrades
spies6Kirsten (10:07:02 PM): I don't know, I think all citizens with roles get some upgrade.
spies6Kirsten (10:07:12 PM): and we decide as a group colelctively who gets the investigation
spies6mirela (10:07:25 PM): who gets the investigatio
spies6mirela (10:07:28 PM): n*
spies6mirela (10:07:33 PM): as in, who gets to be investigated?
spies6Kirsten (10:08:07 PM): whoever the person with the investigation chooses
spies6mirela (10:08:20 PM): i'm confused
spies6Kirsten (10:09:36 PM): we as a group decide to give someone an investigation. That person gains the ability to choose a player and learn whether or not that player has a role
spies6mirela (10:10:01 PM): ooo
spies6mirela (10:10:07 PM): who do you think should get it?
spies6Kirsten (10:12:09 PM): umm...I would say Ellis, actually
spies6Kirsten (10:12:21 PM): either him or Pete/Tiberius
spies6mirela (10:12:26 PM): i see

[Kirsten]

spies6amelia (3:55:16 PM): well write of the devil!
spies6amelia (3:55:20 PM): I just replied to you
spies6Kirsten (3:55:25 PM): awesome
spies6Kirsten (3:55:32 PM): and the devil?
spies6Kirsten (3:55:34 PM): I take offense!
spies6amelia (3:55:36 PM): haha
spies6amelia (3:55:41 PM): ok, so you're not the devil
spies6Kirsten (3:55:47 PM): I'm far better than that old hag
spies6amelia (3:55:51 PM): haha
spies6amelia (3:55:58 PM): can you hold on a sec? I'll brbr
spies6Kirsten (3:56:01 PM): sure
spies6amelia (4:00:15 PM): back
spies6amelia (4:00:22 PM): and thx
spies6Kirsten (4:00:34 PM): you responded to me?
spies6Kirsten (4:00:41 PM): ij
spies6Kirsten (4:00:42 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (4:00:43 PM): there it is
spies6Kirsten (4:02:02 PM): alright. Well I always defend myself thoroughly against attacks made against me
spies6amelia (4:02:06 PM): so you're like the only person i haven't chatted with, which isn't surprising because I'm only at some specific times
spies6amelia (4:02:12 PM): fair enough
spies6Kirsten (4:02:13 PM): that's how I play mafia. I almost never get lynched, so it works for me
spies6Kirsten (4:02:28 PM): yeah, this is the first time I've seen you on
spies6Kirsten (4:02:34 PM): but I'm usually on late at night
spies6amelia (4:02:45 PM): which is probably later for me
spies6Kirsten (4:03:47 PM): I think some of what you took as me "overreacting" to the attacks against me was in reality me pressuring Levi about how he handled my case
spies6Kirsten (4:04:08 PM): there was a lot of me asking Levi why he was ignoring any of my defenses, which played into my suspicions of him.
spies6amelia (4:04:40 PM): which may also contribute to my perception of you deflecting...
spies6amelia (4:04:52 PM): I just thought it was intersting that you accused his second suspect in your defense
spies6amelia (4:04:54 PM): Donald
spies6Kirsten (4:04:56 PM): it's not deflecting. I answered the accusations against me, and then made accusations of my own
spies6amelia (4:04:58 PM): (whom I also suspect, btw)
spies6Kirsten (4:05:19 PM): deflecting would be simply shifting the focus elsewhere without even bothering to address the concerns leveled at me
spies6Kirsten (4:05:37 PM): well, I think Donald is very likely to be a spy
spies6Kirsten (4:05:45 PM): I don't know if you've read the thread I made against him
spies6amelia (4:05:50 PM): I have
spies6Kirsten (4:06:00 PM): but he's contradicted himself a few times, and over events that he should be clear on if he's a citizen
spies6Kirsten (4:06:05 PM): such as when he voted.
spies6amelia (4:06:35 PM): well, to be honest, I have begun to suspect him more than you
spies6amelia (4:06:52 PM): because he does seem either not to be paying attention or to be trying to flail about a bit
spies6amelia (4:07:09 PM): a la Almathea
spies6Kirsten (4:07:15 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:07:23 PM): well, I think he's flailing some
spies6Kirsten (4:07:40 PM): lying about when he voted Gretchen or Roxy
spies6amelia (4:07:48 PM): exactly
spies6amelia (4:07:51 PM): that was pretty telling
spies6amelia (4:07:57 PM): and to me, lying is never pro-town
spies6Kirsten (4:08:20 PM): I disagree on that actually, but lying about something that you have no reason to lie about certainly isn't pro-town
spies6amelia (4:08:46 PM): ok, well I don't mean that lying is ALWAYS anti-town
spies6Kirsten (4:08:53 PM): there is lying that is useful for citizens...example: if someone asks you if you have a role, etc.
spies6amelia (4:09:04 PM): but yes; lying early or lying for no reason is baaaad
spies6Kirsten (4:09:17 PM): what do you think about the push on Yvette?
spies6amelia (4:09:38 PM): well, I'm really not sold on the whole "there must be a spy in one of these four" theory
spies6amelia (4:09:45 PM): it's not grounded in facts, just theory
spies6amelia (4:09:48 PM): but
spies6amelia (4:10:04 PM): I play be "reads" and she seems pushy and loud without contributing
spies6amelia (4:10:10 PM): which is "helpful spy" in my book
spies6amelia (4:10:13 PM): another but
spies6amelia (4:10:29 PM): if this gets bandwagon-y, I'm gonna start asking the same questions I did with the Paris Exile
spies6Kirsten (4:10:31 PM): she was a contributing member to Jaya being exiled. I think that speaks to her being a citizen.
spies6Kirsten (4:10:44 PM): with how close the exile was
spies6amelia (4:11:02 PM): there is so much to keep track of in this game
spies6amelia (4:11:09 PM): it's my first Spies and it's a little overwhelming
spies6amelia (4:11:22 PM): but I see what you're saying about the Jaya Exile
spies6amelia (4:11:43 PM): I hadn't yet considered that
spies6amelia (4:11:46 PM): however
spies6Kirsten (4:11:50 PM): I still don't know all the details of how that went down
spies6amelia (4:11:53 PM): she was also pushing hard for Callahan
spies6amelia (4:12:02 PM): and she wanted Ariel to save Almathea
spies6Kirsten (4:12:15 PM): ok, but have you ever been wrong as town before?
spies6amelia (4:12:19 PM): well of course
spies6Kirsten (4:12:26 PM): saying her suspect day 1 was wrong thus she is a spy is pretty short-sighted.
spies6amelia (4:12:27 PM): but that's WIFOM
spies6amelia (4:12:32 PM): oh that's not what I mean
spies6amelia (4:12:44 PM): I just think it's contributing evidence
spies6amelia (4:12:49 PM): circumstantial as it may be
spies6amelia (4:13:17 PM): combined with my read
spies6amelia (4:13:36 PM): and wanting to save Almathea
spies6Kirsten (4:14:01 PM): the wanting to save almathea point is interesting
spies6Kirsten (4:14:06 PM): I didn't know that
spies6Kirsten (4:14:18 PM): the rest of it is pretty much all circumstancial evidence
spies6amelia (4:14:20 PM): check out the Feminazi Spy thread
spies6Kirsten (4:14:27 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:14:29 PM): I'm reading it now
spies6amelia (4:14:33 PM): she and Levi said Ariel should save Almathea
spies6amelia (4:15:07 PM): but it's bordering on bandwagon, which always gives me pause
spies6Kirsten (4:15:26 PM): personally, I think it's a spy-driven exile
spies6amelia (4:15:43 PM): I get paranoid enough on my own, don't add to it!
spies6amelia (4:16:52 PM): well, I hate to chat and run, but I have to get to a dinner welcoming some new folks to town
spies6amelia (4:16:58 PM): I'm super glad we got a chance to chat though
spies6Kirsten (4:17:43 PM): hehe, yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:17:50 PM): I think you may have been the last person I hadn't talked to yet
spies6amelia (4:17:55 PM): ditto
spies6amelia (4:18:11 PM): and I really do much better in one on one chats
spies6amelia (4:18:15 PM): with reads and such
spies6Kirsten (4:18:26 PM): heh
spies6Kirsten (4:18:45 PM): I feel like people come off different in AIM and in posts, definitely, so I can see that
spies6amelia (4:18:59 PM): most definitely
spies6amelia (4:19:16 PM): it has to do, I think, with most people being more confident in a one-way discussion
spies6Kirsten (4:19:31 PM): right
spies6amelia (4:19:44 PM): ok, I hope to chat with you again soon
spies6amelia (4:19:59 PM): take it easy and don't let me off easy
spies6Kirsten (4:20:14 PM): alright, have a good oen

[Kirsten]

spies6william (4:18:43 PM): hola kirsten
spies6Kirsten (4:18:52 PM): hey, William.
spies6Kirsten (4:18:55 PM): how are you?
spies6william (4:19:05 PM): doing well
spies6Kirsten (4:20:28 PM): what do you think about Yvette?
spies6william (4:21:28 PM): referring to the new case against her?
spies6Kirsten (4:21:50 PM): yes
spies6william (4:23:03 PM): well I don't buy into the "why would she joke about being a spy when we didnt know who we were yet" part, that doesn't make sense if the spies knew the cits were in the dark
spies6william (4:23:49 PM): I don't like the plan she had for the protection of her and robert though
spies6william (4:24:18 PM): that hasn't sat right with me for a while, but that's cause I assume most people are playing the "open and honest" strategy
spies6Kirsten (4:25:55 PM): do you think that makes her more likely to be a spy? Proposing and trying to get that plan to go through?
spies6william (4:26:59 PM): moreso if had led to a mis-lynch, but with that many witnesses I guess it would be hard to throw someone under the bus so blatantly
spies6Kirsten (4:27:46 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:28:06 PM): so, where do you stand on her? Think she's a cit or a spy?
spies6william (4:29:07 PM): I don't think cits should worry about protecting their own ass instead of being honest. So I guess spy
spies6william (4:30:54 PM): do you think she's a cit or spy?
spies6Kirsten (4:31:53 PM): I'm not sold on it, but I would lean citizen
spies6william (4:33:00 PM): Ed raised a good point though at the bottom of the thread, that within 4 hours everyone jumped on the wagon. well not everyone but 6 people
spies6Kirsten (4:33:16 PM): yep
spies6william (4:33:25 PM): I think because she can be a tad caustic, others are more willing to believe she's a spy, it's like mei yun
spies6Kirsten (4:33:44 PM): what do you think about Donald. Hvae you read the thread I posted regarding him?
spies6william (4:33:59 PM): I think I skimmed it, let me go back
spies6william (4:39:48 PM): well I've voted him before, but that was because I saw him as a lurk
spies6william (4:41:28 PM): yeah the "sticking with" comment doesn't really add up
spies6Kirsten (4:41:48 PM): well, I catch him in a direct lie in my most recent post there
spies6william (4:43:49 PM): sorry, the thing's taking me a while to untangle
spies6Kirsten (4:44:04 PM): it's alright
spies6Kirsten (4:44:07 PM): it's kind of confusing
spies6Kirsten (4:44:27 PM): basically, he claims that he went into our chat with his vote on Gretchen already
spies6Kirsten (4:44:38 PM): however, in the chat, he mentions to me at one point that he's going to go change his vote to Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (4:44:50 PM): he wouldn't have said that if his vote was already on Gretchen, as he now claims
spies6Kirsten (4:45:09 PM): so he's lying
spies6william (4:45:48 PM): yeah, I'm just trying to see it like in context
spies6william (4:45:52 PM): I understand the claim
spies6Kirsten (4:46:05 PM): the entire chat is the 2nd post
spies6Kirsten (4:46:09 PM): if you want to read it
spies6william (4:46:12 PM): I know
spies6william (4:48:22 PM): he claims to be voting for gretchen before 8am doesn't he? and then to be switching?
spies6william (4:48:31 PM): I mean that's not any more honest, but it confuses things
spies6Kirsten (4:48:47 PM): In the post he makes where he responds to me
spies6Kirsten (4:48:56 PM): he mentions that he went into the chat already with his vote on Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (4:49:05 PM): but if you read the chat, it's clear that's not the case
spies6Kirsten (4:49:31 PM): first of all, at the beginning of the chat I ask him who he's voting and the first thing he says is Roxy
spies6Kirsten (4:49:52 PM): and then later is the part I pulled out where he directly says he's going to change his vote to gretchen
spies6william (4:51:06 PM): ok
spies6william (4:51:12 PM): sorry, reading the longer log now
spies6william (4:51:42 PM): ok yeah
spies6william (4:51:47 PM): I gotcha
spies6william (4:51:53 PM): reading the longer log helped
spies6william (4:52:12 PM): he never says literally that he's voting roxy, but it'd be weird if he wasn't
spies6william (4:52:27 PM): and then says sticking with, and then changing to
spies6Kirsten (4:53:54 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:54:01 PM): he doesn't directly state it
spies6Kirsten (4:54:04 PM): but it's implied
spies6william (4:54:07 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:54:10 PM): it wouldn't make sense if he wasn't
spies6william (4:55:06 PM): yeah he doesn't leave himself much room to escape from that
spies6william (4:55:29 PM): I'm gonna look at the old threads and convos, see if something of his tsrikes me to add to the case
spies6william (4:55:52 PM): or not convos....cause I haven't talked to him much XD
spies6Kirsten (4:56:09 PM): heh
spies6william (4:57:04 PM): did rey talk to you before the last exlie? like right before?
spies6Kirsten (4:57:51 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (4:58:02 PM): I was on the morning of, and wasn't on again until after
spies6Kirsten (4:58:23 PM): that chat with Donald was the last thing before the exile I saw (although I didn't register how scummy it was at the time)
spies6william (4:58:31 PM): ok
spies6william (4:59:50 PM): he made a post in our exile thread that he was voting pete and everyone else should, but posting nothing to make the case. then he talked to me hours before exile and when I asked him about the case he explained it
spies6william (4:59:58 PM): said he was talking to everyone individulaly about it
spies6william (5:00:38 PM): I'm worried it was a ploy to move - votes onto a spy because he wanted to split them between gretchen and georgia
spies6Kirsten (5:01:17 PM): I don't think so
spies6Kirsten (5:01:22 PM): you should ask Rey about it, though.
spies6Kirsten (5:01:42 PM): from what I gather, someone he trusted told him not to exile jaya, and that it was a stupid idea, so I think he tried to make a last minute swap
spies6william (5:03:23 PM): well I will next time I get to talk to him
spies6william (5:04:23 PM): just don't think such a sudden shift of gears into frantic begging to get pete exiled makes much sense, and it's a lot to give a person that soon to exile
spies6Kirsten (5:04:32 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (5:04:34 PM): it was weird
spies6Kirsten (5:04:59 PM): I asked him about it myself, and that was basically the answer he gave me, but I don't want to try to answer for him
spies6william (5:05:05 PM): ok
spies6william (5:25:06 PM): ugh, I'm going to have to make up my mind tonight
spies6william (5:25:11 PM): I'm working through the next exile
spies6Kirsten (5:25:14 PM): ouch
spies6william (5:25:16 PM): that or tomorrow morning
spies6william (5:26:24 PM): the donald thing does seem much more damning than the yvette
spies6william (5:26:42 PM): and donald has tried to defend himself, at least once
spies6Kirsten (5:26:57 PM): I think Yvette is a poor push right now
spies6william (5:26:59 PM): instead of the yvette case which she hasn't responded to
spies6Kirsten (5:27:04 PM): I'm also extremely suspicious of Levi's presence on that one
spies6Kirsten (5:27:11 PM): extremely
spies6william (5:28:15 PM): yeah, levi's gotten more suspicious since the first few days
spies6william (5:29:52 PM): ugh
spies6william (5:41:40 PM): I'm probably going to have to settle on donald for this week then, in light of this new stuff.
spies6william (5:42:07 PM): I thought we was back on the level, but he seems unable to just say who he was voting for when
spies6Kirsten (5:43:12 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (5:43:23 PM): I was suspicious of him really early episode 1, it tailed off, and now I'm back suspicious of him again
spies6william (5:43:29 PM): same thing
spies6william (5:44:57 PM): alright, I have to go
spies6william (5:45:03 PM): hopefully I'll be on tomorrow morning
spies6Kirsten (5:45:04 PM): alright, it was good talking to you
spies6william (5:45:09 PM): yes, this was helpful

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (4:59:02 PM): hi
spies6oswald (4:59:13 PM): hi kirsten!
spies6Kirsten (4:59:19 PM): what do you think abuot Yvette?
spies6oswald (4:59:50 PM): honestly she has never spoken to me.
spies6oswald (5:00:02 PM): i think the whole Robert/Yvette plan is suspicious
spies6oswald (5:00:17 PM): I also think she's been keeping a low profile lately when she's normally so vocal
spies6Kirsten (5:00:26 PM): she's on vacation
spies6Kirsten (5:00:36 PM): might explain it
spies6oswald (5:01:10 PM): yep that does. Lke I said she doesn't talk to me, and i haven't checked that board where people post their breaks
spies6oswald (5:07:25 PM): what do you think of her?
spies6Kirsten (5:08:02 PM): I think she is a citizen
spies6oswald (5:08:21 PM): fair enough.
spies6oswald (5:08:26 PM): I am suspicious of Amelia
spies6Kirsten (5:08:32 PM): because of the challenges?
spies6oswald (5:08:48 PM): OMG yes
spies6oswald (5:09:40 PM): and the chats we have had are always her trying to find out who I am suspicious of, but she will never tell me hers.
spies6Kirsten (5:15:12 PM): she refuses, or she simply doesn't offer the information?
spies6oswald (5:15:24 PM): she usually signs off, LOL
spies6Kirsten (5:16:36 PM): you should try sending her a PM
spies6Kirsten (5:16:51 PM): I sent her one and she responded back...although a bit later
spies6oswald (5:17:08 PM): that's a good idea, obviously you think she is a Cit?
spies6Kirsten (5:20:44 PM): not really, but I'm also not suspicious of her that much either
spies6Kirsten (5:21:00 PM): she's kind of middle of the road. I'd lean cit slightly, but it's not a huge read
spies6oswald (5:21:19 PM): what are your thoughts on me?
spies6Kirsten (5:23:56 PM): I'm kind of suspicious of you
spies6Kirsten (5:23:58 PM): to be honest
spies6oswald (5:24:09 PM): oh? why so?
spies6Kirsten (5:24:17 PM): from the challenges, mostly
spies6Kirsten (5:24:45 PM): in the checkers challenge, after Ellis won, you mentioned something about "isn't that only 1-1?"
spies6Kirsten (5:25:01 PM): it was almost as though you wished it were only 1-1, rather than citizens winning
spies6oswald (5:25:12 PM): I did?
spies6oswald (5:25:52 PM): Kirsten, why would I show up and play in every challenge and offer up winning answers if I was sabotaging it?
spies6Kirsten (5:26:11 PM): I was only around for 2 challenges
spies6oswald (5:26:20 PM): well than you have a really shitty case.
spies6Kirsten (5:26:23 PM): and you looked suspicious in both
spies6Kirsten (5:26:31 PM): what winning answers did you give?
spies6oswald (5:26:33 PM): Which two were you at?
spies6Kirsten (5:26:37 PM): checkers and th elast one
spies6oswald (5:26:48 PM): In the Map Challenge I got both my answers in before the Future person
spies6oswald (5:26:56 PM): What are you talking about in the last one?
spies6oswald (5:27:11 PM): and I'd like to see the context you are talking about in the Checkers one
spies6Kirsten (5:27:21 PM): alright
spies6Kirsten (5:27:30 PM): in the last one you were one of the last people in
spies6Kirsten (5:27:38 PM): and mentioned that you had mixed up your answers or something
spies6oswald (5:27:42 PM): oh the weight one?
spies6Kirsten (5:27:44 PM): yeah
spies6oswald (5:28:07 PM): My internet was severely lagging, were you there for the one before?
spies6Kirsten (5:29:14 PM): no, I wasn't
spies6oswald (5:29:30 PM): so you weren't there when I gave 2 correct answers to help us win?
spies6Kirsten (5:29:37 PM): no, I was not
spies6oswald (5:29:48 PM): and where were you?
spies6Kirsten (5:29:51 PM): working
spies6oswald (5:29:55 PM): fair enough.
spies6oswald (5:30:18 PM): i just think me saying isn't it 1-1 is a very odd reason to think I am a Spy
spies6Kirsten (5:30:39 PM): why's that? I think the natural citizen reaction is to be happy you won
spies6Kirsten (5:30:49 PM): not to question whether or not it should count as a win
spies6oswald (5:31:01 PM): i need to see the transcript, because I don't believe I said it in the context you are accusing me of
spies6oswald (5:31:14 PM): I also believe I congratulated Ellis and said Way To Go
spies6Kirsten (5:31:15 PM): also, you say your internet was severely lagging for the last chalelgne, but why wasn't that the excuse you gave at the time?
spies6oswald (5:31:22 PM): Nobody asked.
spies6oswald (5:31:27 PM): I was told we won.
spies6Kirsten (5:31:32 PM): but you did give an excuse. you said you mixed up answers
spies6oswald (5:31:59 PM): I did mix up answers, but it took me forever to re-submit
spies6Kirsten (5:32:40 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (5:32:46 PM): let me find the chat
spies6Kirsten (5:32:50 PM): the 1-1 thing
spies6oswald (5:33:16 PM): Hey I'm not telling you not to be suspicious, that's the game, but these seem pretty small based on all the things I have done that point the other way.
spies6Kirsten (5:33:34 PM): well, i would encourage you to point out what you've done the other way
spies6oswald (5:35:10 PM): well I showed up at every challenge but 2, and even set my alarm for them and actively participated in all of them, including giving 2 winning points that helped us tie the Spies and stay in that race altogether. I also was one of the vocal proponents against Paris the last vote. I was a trusted ally of Mei Yun's. I have been very vocal in all chats about finding Spies and not just jumping on bandwagons and OMGusing
spies6Kirsten (5:35:44 PM): (10:26:34) Ellis: I win!
(10:26:43) Donald: really?
(10:26:49) Oswald: really?
(10:26:55) Georgia: She ran out of time.
(10:27:14) Donald: YES!!!
(10:27:14) Oswald: didn't you lose the first one though because of that, so is it 1-1
(10:27:24) Donald: did the first one really count?
(10:27:26) Boris: the game didn't start then
(10:27:30) Boris: no
spies6oswald (5:36:40 PM): so double checking is Spy behavior?
spies6Kirsten (5:37:15 PM): spies6Kirsten (5:30:39 PM): why's that? I think the natural citizen reaction is to be happy you won
spies6Kirsten (5:30:49 PM): not to question whether or not it should count as a win
spies6oswald (5:37:35 PM): Funny I don't see your cheers of joy in there, or anyone's really
spies6Kirsten (5:37:48 PM): this doesn't have to do with cheers of joy
spies6oswald (5:38:00 PM): spies6Kirsten (5:30:39 PM): why's that? I think the natural citizen reaction is to be happy you won
spies6Kirsten (5:38:24 PM): I was happy we won
spies6oswald (5:38:30 PM): really I don't see it?
spies6oswald (5:38:33 PM): I was happy as well
spies6Kirsten (5:38:34 PM): I didn't go "Yay, Ellis, I love you long time"
spies6Kirsten (5:38:54 PM): nor did I make a statement questioning the win
spies6oswald (5:39:02 PM): so just because I commented that we should double check?
spies6oswald (5:39:06 PM): this is ludicrous
spies6Kirsten (5:39:08 PM): haha
spies6oswald (5:39:48 PM): can you please show me the part right after that where I am fairly certain i congratulated Ellis
spies6Kirsten (5:39:52 PM): look, this is the reason I am suspicious of you. I'm not voting you over it, but I'm expressing it to you
spies6oswald (5:39:57 PM): Or I will just do so when I get home.
spies6Kirsten (5:40:47 PM): congratulating ellis doesn't mean much.. Do you think the spies are immune to congratulations?
spies6Kirsten (5:41:06 PM): there is a tell in mafia (generally a weak one, but a tell nonetheless) called "congratulaing the doc"
spies6Kirsten (5:41:42 PM): generally newer players are guilty of it, where they will say something like "good job doctor for making a save" when in reality they are annoyed that their kill didn't go through
spies6oswald (5:41:57 PM): ha. this is so BS...I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. If I don't congratulate him and ask a clarifying question I am a Spy, if I congratulate him then I am a Spy
spies6Kirsten (5:42:08 PM): no, that's not what I'm saying
spies6Kirsten (5:42:14 PM): I'm saying congratulating him is null
spies6Kirsten (5:42:25 PM): it's not something tha tmakes you more likely to be a citizen, becaues it's easy for spies to do
spies6oswald (5:43:58 PM): look my rationale was this..>Ellis is not the most focused person, we were telling him what to do for god's sakes, so I was not sure he was correct on the rules, I wanted to make sure he had done everything he had to do before walking away from the game, that's why I double checked. Double checking for correctness so that we win I would say is a sign of a thorough Citizen.
spies6Kirsten (5:44:03 PM): but actually, if you must know, I feel a lot better about you after chatting here
spies6oswald (5:44:10 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (5:44:41 PM): what did you guess for the hair challenge?
spies6oswald (5:44:45 PM): I must say I trust you implicitly now.
spies6oswald (5:44:58 PM): in the tiebreaker thing?
spies6Kirsten (5:45:16 PM): yeah
spies6oswald (5:45:21 PM): I didn't. I totally missed it.
spies6Kirsten (5:45:22 PM): do you remember?
spies6Kirsten (5:45:24 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (5:45:55 PM): which answers did you get right to help win the other challenges?
spies6oswald (5:46:32 PM): I helped people with the "Guessing how many posts and pins" challenge, and I got both of my questions right in the Map Challenge
spies6oswald (5:47:31 PM): I also was helping with the magnet one, but who could know who was doing what in that one
spies6Kirsten (5:47:48 PM): yeah, I heard that one was chaotic
spies6oswald (5:48:08 PM): I was in charge of INT and I kept trying to put it together but I couldn't find anyone else's
spies6Kirsten (5:49:21 PM): INT?
spies6oswald (5:50:08 PM): yeah the phrase we were trying to spell we each took 3 letters to concentrate on
spies6Kirsten (5:50:29 PM): i see
spies6Kirsten (5:54:14 PM): did you read my case against Donald?
spies6oswald (5:55:10 PM): yes its very damning
spies6oswald (5:55:29 PM): i am going back and re-reading it actually just to make sure

[Kirsten]

spies6thor (7:19:41 PM): greetings, kirsten.
spies6Kirsten (7:19:47 PM): hi
spies6thor (7:21:11 PM): how are you?
spies6Kirsten (7:21:30 PM): I'm good
spies6Kirsten (7:21:34 PM): didn't work today, so that was nice
spies6Kirsten (7:21:50 PM): yourself?
spies6thor (7:22:06 PM): fairly well. i've been quite busy lately, which is a bother.
spies6Kirsten (7:28:43 PM): yeah, that is annoying
spies6Kirsten (7:28:55 PM): I missed most of episode 2 and it hurt
spies6Kirsten (7:29:04 PM): do you have the chats where people decided to vote jaya
spies6Kirsten (7:29:17 PM): With people attacking Yvette, I would really like to see her involvement
spies6thor (7:29:20 PM): yeah, i'll post them when i get the chance.
spies6Kirsten (7:29:22 PM): ok
spies6thor (7:29:30 PM): i'll definitely post yvette's portion asap.
spies6thor (7:35:01 PM): i posted my chat with yvette about it, and a relevant portion of my chat with ariel.
spies6Kirsten (7:35:21 PM): ok, thanks
spies6Kirsten (7:35:34 PM): also, I think you don't really understand my suspicions of Levi
spies6Kirsten (7:35:45 PM): it has absolutely nothing to do with him changing his opinion of Mei Yun
spies6Kirsten (7:36:09 PM): and none of my case is based on change over time where the time is being misconstrued
spies6Kirsten (7:36:48 PM): about Mei Yun, I was suspicious of him saying the evidence against her was framing her, but yet adding her to his suspicion list all the same. That took place in the span of about 1 minute in a chat.
spies6Kirsten (7:36:59 PM): not over an extended period of time
spies6thor (7:37:57 PM): okay, i apologize for confusing your points. it just has seemed like almost everyone else who has jumpedon the case has been using things from very different points in time.
spies6Kirsten (7:39:28 PM): I'll be honest, I'm not entirely sure the arguments others have been using against him
spies6Kirsten (7:39:40 PM): and they very well could be wrong
spies6thor (7:40:43 PM): although i feel like your initial case does hold a little bit of truth, i persnally get a citizen read from levi which is why i've been emphasizing the holes.
spies6Kirsten (7:49:13 PM): I felt better about him last episode, but I'm really suspicious of him again now
spies6Kirsten (7:49:23 PM): I think he and Donald are both spies
spies6thor (7:49:29 PM): my suspicions keep changing wildly.
spies6Kirsten (7:49:31 PM): and I'm not sure which I'd prefer to vote
spies6Kirsten (7:50:20 PM): I'd say I'm more confident in voting Donald, but I'm also worried about Yvette being exiled, who I am feeling is a citizen
spies6thor (7:51:12 PM): i've taken a 180 on yvette, i trusted her but i can't think of any citizeny things she's done.
spies6Kirsten (7:51:55 PM): I dont' think she's done anything that has strictly benefited the citizens (outside of the Jaya vote)
spies6Kirsten (7:52:07 PM): so I would agree. However, I'm more interested in her motivations
spies6Kirsten (7:52:18 PM): and I'm not seeing a spy motivation behind why she is doing what she is doing
spies6thor (7:57:19 PM): i think the spy motivations are outlined in the case.
spies6Kirsten (7:58:19 PM): what would be her spy motivation for leading an exile on Callahan knowing that he is a citizen?
spies6thor (7:58:29 PM): because he's a citizen.
spies6Kirsten (7:58:31 PM): especially since the blame is now falling on her shoulders?
spies6Kirsten (7:58:41 PM): why not take a quieter role?
spies6Kirsten (7:58:47 PM): a less confrontational one
spies6thor (7:59:02 PM): i think she needed to try and take an assertive role right away just as her playstyle.
spies6Kirsten (7:59:22 PM): fair enough
spies6Kirsten (8:52:18 PM): don't you think as a spy she could have just sat on her Georgia vote
spies6Kirsten (8:52:22 PM): ?
spies6thor (8:52:52 PM): rather than jump on the wagon that was going to lynch a spy?
spies6thor (8:54:04 PM): at that point it was up in the air who was being exiled. why not try and get on the wagon that would make her seem more citizenlike at the last second?
spies6Kirsten (8:54:15 PM): because she loses a spy buddy?
spies6thor (8:54:43 PM): yes, because spies never ever vote for one another.
spies6Kirsten (8:54:43 PM): I'm saying she could have stuck with her Georgia vote and not been called suspicious for it, since she could easily explain it away as her not wanting to make a last second swap
spies6thor (8:55:09 PM): if georgia had been lynched, and flipped citizen, that would be two consecutive mislynches on yvette's record.
spies6Kirsten (8:55:25 PM): Georgia wasn't going to get lynched
spies6Kirsten (8:55:30 PM): so that's a non-issue
spies6thor (8:55:36 PM): yvette didn't know that. nobody knew that.
spies6thor (8:55:57 PM): i, for one, did not know where over half of the votes on our team were going.
spies6thor (8:56:22 PM): so it's not a nonissue.
spies6Kirsten (8:56:52 PM): She was the only one who expressed she was gonig to vote for Georgia, and at least 3 people said they were voting for Gretchen
spies6thor (8:58:09 PM): yet, in the end, there was one vote on gretchen, two on georgia. if i had not voted for jaya, i would have voted for georgia.
spies6thor (8:58:51 PM): my point is, yvette at that point knew there would be four votes on jaya.
spies6Kirsten (9:01:02 PM): there were also 4 votes on Gretchen, though, if I'm not mistaken
spies6Kirsten (9:01:21 PM): she didn't have to step out and be the decisive vote.
spies6Kirsten (9:04:12 PM): who was the other vote on Georgia? you?
spies6Kirsten (9:04:19 PM): had you not gone with jaya?

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:52:46 PM): hi
spies6Ed (9:51:03 PM): Hello Kirsten, you still there?
spies6Kirsten (9:51:11 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (9:51:44 PM): I'm trying to determine whether Donald's explanations make sense
spies6Ed (9:52:20 PM): Yeah, me too, reading his latest post
spies6Kirsten (9:52:46 PM): so much of it seems to not add up
spies6Ed (9:53:46 PM): I can buy his not immediately reading cases excuse, not so sure about the other stuff
spies6Kirsten (9:53:53 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:53:55 PM): I can buy that excuse
spies6Kirsten (9:54:15 PM): I think he's lying about the other one
spies6Kirsten (9:54:22 PM): let me try to run this by
spies6Kirsten (9:54:36 PM): he said he went into the chat with me having already voted Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (9:54:48 PM): in one of his earlier replies to the thread
spies6Kirsten (9:55:00 PM): I voted for Gretchen shortly after sending Roxy the PM, which was before I said "I'm sticking with my vote on Gretchen." That last quote
spies6Kirsten (9:55:05 PM): he said that in his recent reply
spies6Kirsten (9:55:17 PM): spies6donald (7:38:37 AM): Right now I'm considering Roxy, but I want to hear from her first.
spies6donald (7:38:52 AM): I'm sending her a PM now, because I don't know when she'll get back, so I hope to hear from her that way before exile
spies6Kirsten (9:55:20 PM): that is in the chat we had
spies6Kirsten (9:55:53 PM): So he sent the PM to Roxy while he was chatting with me. He says he changed his vote to Gretchen after he sent the PM. Earlier he said he had his vote on Gretchen already before we even started chatting
spies6Kirsten (9:56:19 PM): so that doesn't add up
spies6Ed (9:58:01 PM): I'm not a mathematician, but no, it does not
spies6Ed (10:01:13 PM): And this is pure conjecture, but isn't it likely that one of the three who originally voted for Mei (Donald, Roxy, Georgia) is a spy? It's possible that 3 citizens could accidentally vote for a fellow citizen on their own, but more likely that a spy was leading the way
spies6Ed (10:01:45 PM): I know you don't like the idea of lining up a firing sqaud of possible spies and picking them off one by one, but it's something to consider
spies6Kirsten (10:01:51 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:01:56 PM): I've been thinking about that actually
spies6Ed (10:02:00 PM): Especially since I feel pretty strongly that Roxy is a citizen
spies6Kirsten (10:02:02 PM): the first exile
spies6Kirsten (10:02:54 PM): I'm assuming there are 3 spies on our team, and have been looking at that to figure out who they are.
spies6Ed (10:03:08 PM): your original team?
spies6Kirsten (10:03:10 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:03:31 PM): the most likely configuration is either 2 spies on my team 3 on yours or 3 on mine 2 on yours
spies6Kirsten (10:03:50 PM): unless there is yet another spy from Almathea's team
spies6Kirsten (10:04:04 PM): but...right now I consider that less likely
spies6Ed (10:04:19 PM): Yeah, just based on odds its much less likely
spies6Ed (10:06:13 PM): How do you feel about my former/current top suspect Gretchen?
spies6Kirsten (10:06:45 PM): conflicted
spies6Kirsten (10:07:00 PM): my former/current top suspect donald voted her last episode
spies6Ed (10:07:18 PM): Oh right, that doesn't add up for you, does it?
spies6Kirsten (10:07:39 PM): unless he was busing, no.
spies6Kirsten (10:08:05 PM): although, I could see it as possible based on how shady he acted
spies6Kirsten (10:08:19 PM): still, she's roughly middle of the pack for me right now
spies6Ed (10:09:00 PM): Yeah, I'd really like to talk to her live but I may have to resort to PM before the exile
spies6Kirsten (10:09:36 PM): what makes her your top suspect?
spies6Kirsten (10:09:48 PM): over, the other cases presented, for instance?
spies6Ed (10:12:49 PM): Her desire to vote out Roxy pretty much just for info, her over-reaction during the team chat over whether or not she said a certain word, one possible scum slip that I'll dig up for you and her seemingly openess to bandwagons
spies6Ed (10:13:09 PM): Although she did stick with her Roxy vote...possibly because she didn't have anywhere else to go
spies6Kirsten (10:13:35 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:14:00 PM): my reasons for voting her were under the impression that she stuck on Roxy simply because she didn't want to look for other suspicions
spies6Ed (10:14:55 PM): Exactly, she basically said "I'm voting Roxy unless someone presents another case for me to hop on to. Otherwise, I'm lazy and ok with seeing a citizen go"
spies6Ed (10:19:07 PM): I gotta go, looking forward to Yvette's response tomorrow
spies6Kirsten (10:19:36 PM): alright, later
spies6Ed (10:20:25 PM): Goodnight

[Kirsten]

spies6mirela (8:53:19 PM): hey there
spies6mirela (8:53:23 PM): whats happenin girl?
spies6Kirsten (8:53:32 PM): posting a lot of words in le burg
spies6Kirsten (8:53:37 PM): that's what was happening
spies6mirela (8:54:08 PM): in response to who?
spies6Kirsten (8:56:19 PM): I've responded to pretty much everyone who has posted in Yvette's thread
spies6mirela (8:56:29 PM): oh i see
spies6mirela (8:56:40 PM): you feel pretty strongly about the case huh?
spies6Kirsten (8:58:14 PM): I think she is a citizen. I also think I've caught a spy in Donald.
spies6mirela (8:59:07 PM): do you think we should exile donald?
spies6Kirsten (9:01:50 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:02:01 PM): I would also not feel sad if we exiled Levi. I think he's a spy as well
spies6mirela (9:02:35 PM): but what evidence is there against him? the paris exile practically cleared his name
spies6Kirsten (9:02:42 PM): how?
spies6mirela (9:02:42 PM): and he was like the leader in most challenges
spies6Kirsten (9:02:49 PM): eh?
spies6Kirsten (9:02:53 PM): I don't remember him being a leader in challenges
spies6mirela (9:03:05 PM): he screencapped it, and helped a lot with the letter game
spies6Kirsten (9:03:09 PM): and the Paris exile. Paris wasn't a spy. The spies didn't know he was on their side
spies6mirela (9:03:11 PM): (by letter i mean the topic one)
spies6mirela (9:05:16 PM): well if donald is a spy, who else does that lead to being a spy?
spies6Kirsten (9:05:32 PM): I think Levi and donald can be spies together
spies6mirela (9:06:25 PM): do you see any sort of connection between them kirsten?
spies6Kirsten (9:06:28 PM): they've pretty much ignored the cases on each other.
spies6mirela (9:07:03 PM): hmmm
spies6mirela (9:07:18 PM): okay kirsten, i might not be able to be here tomorrow for the exile
spies6mirela (9:07:27 PM): so i'm going to vote donald
spies6Kirsten (9:07:28 PM): although from what gabriela had to say, it seems like Donald has a habit of ignoring cases
spies6mirela (9:08:19 PM): i trust you know what your talking about. and i think the yvette case can wait
spies6mirela (9:08:41 PM): if yvette WON'T be exiled or imprisoned, even if she's a citizen
spies6mirela (9:08:53 PM): ignore that if
spies6mirela (9:09:20 PM): because that will just make it look like faith or iris or ariel is the spy, and i don't think the spies are stupid enough to do that
spies6mirela (9:09:33 PM): i think those four girls are going to stick around, for the protection of the spies
spies6mirela (9:09:46 PM): its funny, because yvette's original goal was to protect herself from imprisonment
spies6Kirsten (9:09:47 PM): maybe. Although if none of them are spies, we shoot ourselves in the foot by trying to find one among them
spies6mirela (9:09:53 PM): and she did it
spies6Kirsten (9:09:55 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:10:00 PM): by getting people suspicious of her
spies6mirela (9:10:15 PM): kirsten are you voting donald?
spies6Kirsten (9:10:37 PM): I think so.
spies6Kirsten (9:10:42 PM): Either him or Levi
spies6mirela (9:10:53 PM): no i think you should vote donald
spies6Kirsten (9:11:06 PM): why's that?
spies6mirela (9:11:17 PM): there's way more evidence o n him than levi
spies6Kirsten (9:11:39 PM): I think there's more evidence on Levi, but I think the Donald evidence might be a little stronger
spies6mirela (9:14:20 PM): even though i think levi is an annoying little shit
spies6mirela (9:14:46 PM): he and rey talk and talk
spies6mirela (9:14:52 PM): they just TALK
spies6mirela (9:14:55 PM): every second
spies6Kirsten (9:15:17 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (9:15:22 PM): and why does that make him a citizen
spies6mirela (9:15:35 PM): i never said that
spies6mirela (9:15:48 PM): i just think levi is in that grey area
spies6mirela (9:16:07 PM): i used to think he was a citizen, but after awhile i was like eh
spies6Kirsten (9:16:30 PM): ?
spies6Kirsten (9:16:38 PM): didn't you just say that the Paris exile cleared his name?
spies6mirela (9:16:50 PM): well thats what i thought at the time
spies6mirela (9:17:29 PM): but then as it progressed its like whatever, levi shares cit and spy qualities
spies6mirela (9:17:34 PM): so im just whatever on him
spies6mirela (9:19:02 PM): omg that sounded totally stupid
spies6Kirsten (9:19:06 PM): hehe
spies6mirela (9:19:23 PM): don't think i'm the kinda gal who changes her opinions or whatnot
spies6mirela (9:19:30 PM): on a drop of a penny
spies6Kirsten (9:19:33 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (9:19:38 PM):
spies6Kirsten (9:20:02 PM): I'm just, curious about your feelings on Levi, cause you've been all over the place in this chat
spies6mirela (9:20:13 PM): i know haha
spies6mirela (9:20:20 PM): well let me give it to you nice and straight
spies6mirela (9:20:33 PM): when i first entered the game, levi was one of the first people i spoke too
spies6mirela (9:21:04 PM): i heard about your case against him, and i considered that. but i didn't think the evidence had enough weight
spies6mirela (9:21:11 PM): the more we talked
spies6mirela (9:21:22 PM): the more i started to think he was a citizen
spies6mirela (9:21:32 PM): and THEN i asked to be in an alliance with him, which he agreed
spies6mirela (9:22:09 PM): later i proposed we should involve more people, i told him a secure group of four or five would be nice
spies6mirela (9:22:19 PM): but he immediately IMMEDIEATLY rejected that
spies6mirela (9:22:32 PM): and INSISTED we only have three (we talked of ellis being in on the group)
spies6mirela (9:22:44 PM): thats when i started feeling ifffy about him
spies6Kirsten (9:23:14 PM): aren't you worried that a group of 4-5 would run into the same issues as Yvette is in now with the Robert thing?
spies6mirela (9:23:31 PM): not really
spies6mirela (9:24:09 PM): mostly because i'd be so close to the group, if anything suspcious happened with one of them i'd know exactly who to point the finger too
spies6mirela (9:24:42 PM): anyways our alliance sort of fell apart
spies6mirela (9:24:55 PM): we didn't talk much afterwards, mainly because i was starting to suspect him
spies6Kirsten (9:25:00 PM): hehe
spies6mirela (9:25:10 PM): then during the challenges he ATTACKED me
spies6mirela (9:25:16 PM): out of NOWHERE
spies6Kirsten (9:25:21 PM): based on what?
spies6mirela (9:25:38 PM): saying that i was "being too slow" and i was the last one they were waiting for
spies6mirela (9:25:41 PM): which is complete bullshit
spies6mirela (9:26:31 PM): levi's arguement was totally stupid
spies6mirela (9:26:35 PM): and random
spies6mirela (9:26:44 PM): rey took way longer than me
spies6mirela (9:27:00 PM): so i don't know what the hell he was talking about
spies6Kirsten (9:27:08 PM): so you think he was unfairly calling you out? do you think it's based on the crumbling of your alliance?
spies6mirela (9:27:18 PM): no i don't think so
spies6mirela (9:27:22 PM): it was just.....out of the blue
spies6mirela (9:27:35 PM): i did NOT expect it, especially from levi, who said he thought I was a citizen
spies6Kirsten (9:27:48 PM): which challenge was this?
spies6mirela (9:27:50 PM): i think i might vote for HIM now
spies6Kirsten (9:27:53 PM): haha
spies6mirela (9:28:09 PM): talking about it and reviewing it, he was a suspicious mofo
spies6mirela (9:28:17 PM): the challenge were you had to change your topic title
spies6mirela (9:28:21 PM): to a latter to create a word
spies6mirela (9:28:24 PM): letter*
spies6Kirsten (9:28:27 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (9:28:55 PM): I thought you were suspicious of Ellis. Why did you want to include him in the alliance?
spies6mirela (9:29:15 PM): because in the beginning when i talked with him i believed he was trustworthy
spies6mirela (9:29:42 PM): but all my thoughts on him reversed when he went crazy at the exile
spies6mirela (9:30:08 PM): he DESPRETELY wanted paris out, and was trying to organize the votes so that the spies wouldn't try to protect him with their _
spies6mirela (9:30:11 PM): -
spies6mirela (9:30:30 PM): he imed me privately and told me i was on of four he trusted
spies6mirela (9:30:39 PM): and he explained how paris needed to be OUT
spies6mirela (9:30:48 PM): the others were levi, boris, and kahled
spies6mirela (9:30:58 PM): i believe the other was oswald...
spies6Kirsten (9:31:11 PM): that's 5!
spies6mirela (9:31:22 PM): oh then probably not oswald
spies6mirela (9:31:27 PM): i get oswald and boris confused
spies6mirela (9:31:32 PM): because they both are ugly men
spies6Kirsten (9:31:34 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (9:31:39 PM): a good reason as any
spies6mirela (9:31:51 PM): so yeah, thats when ellis became iffy in my back
spies6mirela (9:31:53 PM): book*
spies6mirela (9:31:57 PM): AND THEN!
spies6mirela (9:32:10 PM): i was talking to him before one of the challenges
(the estimation one)
spies6mirela (9:32:30 PM): and he accidentally let it slip out that he was involved in three chats
spies6mirela (9:32:36 PM): and couldn't talk
spies6mirela (9:32:39 PM): and i was like
spies6mirela (9:32:40 PM): WHAAT?
spies6mirela (9:32:46 PM): i think i told you this haha
spies6Kirsten (9:32:52 PM): hehe, yeah, i remember that
spies6Kirsten (9:32:57 PM): did you ever ask him about it?
spies6mirela (9:33:01 PM): he hasn't been on
spies6mirela (9:33:10 PM): when im on
spies6Kirsten (9:33:16 PM): I'm interested in what he says...although like I said, I'm not too suspicious of him.
spies6mirela (9:33:29 PM): a part of me thinks he has a role
spies6Kirsten (9:33:53 PM): hmm...yeah, I could see that
spies6Kirsten (9:34:27 PM): although, that kind of speculation doesn't really help us any
spies6mirela (9:34:37 PM): nope
spies6mirela (9:34:43 PM): still
spies6mirela (9:34:52 PM): i think imma vote levi
spies6Kirsten (9:35:13 PM): I'm still not sure.
spies6Kirsten (9:35:26 PM): I think I'm going to wait and see how things unfold....although I have to work again tomorrow, which really sucks
spies6Kirsten (9:35:41 PM): missing another exile, and I won't be around beforehand in case things get crazy
spies6mirela (9:36:35 PM): ahh
spies6Kirsten (9:36:36 PM): I'll probably vote Donald, but I want to vote in such a way that my suspect gets exiled, not yvette
spies6mirela (9:38:23 PM): hmm
spies6mirela (9:38:27 PM): levi or donald
spies6mirela (9:38:32 PM): that's a toughy