Episode 6 - Chats

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:40:07 PM): how regularly do you view spies?
spies6rey (8:40:30 PM): hmm ?
spies6rey (8:40:41 PM): so you think i'm a spy now?
spies6rey (8:40:48 PM): you think i faked the faith reaction?
spies6rey (8:40:54 PM): ...
spies6Kirsten (8:40:56 PM): what?
spies6rey (8:41:03 PM): screw you.
spies6Kirsten (8:41:04 PM): I'm not even accusing you of anything, ahhaha
spies6rey (8:41:11 PM): you just said i view spies or whatever.
spies6rey (8:41:15 PM): i don't even fucking know the spies.
spies6Kirsten (8:41:19 PM): hahahahaha
spies6rey signed off at 8:41:19 PM
spies6Kirsten (8:43:01 PM): asdf
spies6Kirsten (8:43:01 PM): asdf
spies6Kirsten (8:43:10 PM): asdf
spies6Kirsten (8:43:10 PM): asdf
spies6rey signed on at 9:09:17 PM
spies6Kirsten (9:39:30 PM): still blocking me?
spies6Kirsten (9:39:36 PM): I guess not
spies6rey (9:39:36 PM): huh?
spies6rey (9:39:39 PM): o.O
spies6Kirsten (9:39:46 PM): Rey, what the hell is going on?
spies6rey (9:39:56 PM): what are you talking about?
spies6Kirsten (9:40:06 PM): you know, earlier when you blocked me
spies6rey (9:40:35 PM): you called me a spy for no reason, which i later found out was an incorrect assumption since jenya told me what you meant.
spies6Kirsten (9:40:54 PM): so everyone who would even bother to insinuate you could possibly be scummy gets blocked?
spies6Kirsten (9:41:06 PM): way to play the game
spies6rey (9:41:18 PM): i told everyone in the main chat that i was NOT willing to talk to anyone.
spies6Kirsten (9:41:23 PM): I didn't see it
spies6rey (9:41:23 PM): and you ignored my wish.
spies6Kirsten (9:41:33 PM): then log off aim
spies6rey (9:41:34 PM): you purposely came to tease me by calling me a spy.
spies6rey (9:41:44 PM): well, that's what i thought.
spies6Kirsten (9:41:45 PM): told me what you meant.
spies6rey (9:41:48 PM): and i DID log off.
spies6rey (9:41:52 PM): and when i CAME ON.
spies6rey (9:41:55 PM): after i was cooled off.
spies6rey (9:41:59 PM): you accused me of being a spy.
spies6rey (9:42:00 PM): duh?
spies6Kirsten (9:42:03 PM): spies6rey (9:40:35 PM): you called me a spy for no reason, which i later found out was an incorrect assumption since jenya told me what you meant.
spies6rey (9:42:21 PM): huh?
spies6Kirsten (9:42:30 PM): I wasn't calling you a spy
spies6rey (9:42:33 PM): i know.
spies6rey (9:42:43 PM):
spies6rey (10:41:45 PM): you purposely came to tease me by calling me a spy.

spies6rey (10:41:55 PM): well, that's what i thought.
spies6Kirsten (9:42:44 PM): but why did you overreact when you thought I was
spies6rey (9:43:10 PM): i already said that i thought you did call me a spy for no reason.
spies6rey (9:43:16 PM): jenya told me what you meant AFTER i blocked you.
spies6rey (9:43:19 PM): not before ..
spies6Kirsten (9:43:46 PM): right, but that's not my question. Even if I were calling you a spy, why would you block me? That's the point of the game, to call people spies
spies6Kirsten (9:43:52 PM): you can't just block everyone who wuld approach you
spies6rey (9:44:26 PM): okay.
spies6rey (9:44:33 PM): can you please put everything i said together?
spies6rey (9:44:42 PM): 1. i didn't want to talk
spies6rey (9:45:00 PM): 2. you called me a spy RIGHT AFTER i went out of my way to defend faith the entire time
spies6rey (9:45:18 PM): 3. for some reason people are coming to me and saying they suspect me because of that
spies6Kirsten (9:45:33 PM): well, that's kind of dumb
spies6Kirsten (9:45:46 PM): to be honest, my initial thought was the same one you had
spies6Kirsten (9:45:55 PM): about faith faking her "you caught me, I'm a spy" spiel
spies6Kirsten (9:46:07 PM): although I didn't go so far as to wish she was a citizen, but you know
spies6rey (9:46:16 PM): well, you know what i meant.
spies6rey (9:46:21 PM): i knew she was faking basically.
spies6rey (9:46:35 PM): because i was SO sure she was a citizen.
spies6rey (9:46:44 PM): so IF she was a spy, i would be sooo dead next round.
spies6Kirsten (9:47:18 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:47:23 PM): I was fairly convinced she was a citizen too
spies6Kirsten (9:47:34 PM): can I ask you a question, and I would appreciate honesty
spies6Kirsten (9:47:47 PM): I organized 4 people to get you the role investigation. Did you get it?
spies6rey (9:47:48 PM): don't expect it.
spies6rey (9:47:58 PM): NO.
spies6rey (9:48:00 PM): i did NOT.
spies6Kirsten (9:48:10 PM): really?
spies6rey (9:48:23 PM): i already told ellis, didn't he tell you?
spies6rey (9:48:26 PM): i wanted HIM to have it.
spies6rey (9:48:29 PM): i voted him.
spies6rey (9:48:41 PM): and i didn't get a role investigation.
spies6Kirsten (9:48:49 PM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (9:48:54 PM): do you know of anyone who voted you?
spies6rey (9:49:25 PM): no.
spies6rey (9:49:31 PM): i was practically forcing people to vote ellis.
spies6Kirsten (9:50:05 PM): we chatted after Sam handed it out. I interpreted your reactions in that chat to mean that you got it, but I guess I was wrong
spies6Kirsten (9:50:13 PM): so the spies probably did get it then
spies6rey (9:50:21 PM): duh ?
spies6rey (9:50:30 PM): didn't i say that already?
spies6Kirsten (9:50:38 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (9:50:45 PM): scroll up and point out where you said it
spies6Kirsten (9:50:51 PM): you need to chill out man.
spies6rey (9:50:52 PM): not today and probably not to you.
spies6rey (9:51:01 PM): anyways i cooled down, are people still discussing in the main chat?
spies6Kirsten (9:51:03 PM): I don't know everything in the life of Rey
spies6Kirsten (9:51:16 PM): so excuse me for being out of the loop for some stuff
spies6rey (9:51:27 PM): i thought ellis would report to you like a good boy.
spies6rey (9:51:29 PM): i guess not.

[Kirsten]

spies6mirela (10:05:55 PM): hello kirsten
spies6Kirsten (10:06:03 PM): hi
spies6mirela (10:06:28 PM): i just read the exile 5 chat
spies6mirela (10:06:31 PM): very disappointing
spies6Kirsten (10:06:41 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:06:48 PM): well, I think your girl Iris is a spy
spies6mirela (10:07:01 PM): apparently it's iris
spies6mirela (10:07:05 PM): it HAS to be
spies6mirela (10:07:10 PM): i will be voting for her next episode
spies6Kirsten (10:07:14 PM): what about Ariel?
spies6mirela (10:07:17 PM): actually
spies6mirela (10:07:37 PM): this exile has brought up some major suspicions
spies6mirela (10:07:44 PM): ariel and amelia especially
spies6mirela (10:08:01 PM): AMELIA didn't even approve of my whole idea for voting for faith
spies6mirela (10:08:10 PM): she thought that was a bad stradegy
spies6mirela (10:08:16 PM): and yet, she voted for faith
spies6mirela (10:08:26 PM): and as for ariel, i didn't expect that from her
spies6Kirsten (10:08:30 PM): yeah
spies6mirela (10:08:49 PM): and FUCKING LEVI
spies6mirela (10:08:57 PM): bandwagoning the shit out of every exile
spies6Kirsten (10:09:04 PM): haha
spies6mirela (10:09:25 PM): since when was faith his top suspect?
spies6mirela (10:09:37 PM): I was the one who stated i was voting for faith
spies6mirela (10:09:40 PM): in the burg
spies6Kirsten (10:09:50 PM): yeah...
spies6mirela (10:10:20 PM): yes it was a mistake, but faith didn't really help because she never defended herself
spies6Kirsten (10:11:55 PM): Faith did defend herself
spies6Kirsten (10:12:04 PM): quite a bit actually this episode
spies6mirela (10:12:14 PM): i guessi wouldn't know, i wasn't around this episode
spies6mirela (10:13:14 PM): now why do you think iris is a spy
spies6Kirsten (10:13:54 PM): I think she fakes emotions/reactoins
spies6mirela (10:14:10 PM): yea, that whole bit at the yvette exile
spies6mirela (10:14:13 PM): where she freaked out
spies6Kirsten (10:14:17 PM): and she claimed a role that I don't believe, which I'm sure will be talked about in the days to come
spies6mirela (10:15:10 PM): omg she did?
spies6mirela (10:15:13 PM): when was this?
spies6Kirsten (10:15:37 PM): like 10 minutes before exile
spies6Kirsten (10:15:43 PM): when there was a push to get her exiled
spies6mirela (10:16:58 PM): and what was her role?
spies6mirela (10:17:03 PM): and why would she do this?
spies6mirela (10:17:10 PM): she just admitted to all the spies she has a role
spies6Kirsten (10:17:11 PM): because she thought she was going to be exiled
spies6Kirsten (10:17:24 PM): I thought you thought she was a spy?
spies6mirela (10:17:46 PM): well i do now
spies6mirela (10:17:54 PM): she sounds desperate
spies6mirela (10:18:00 PM): this is really saddening
spies6mirela (10:18:41 PM): i like iris a lot, and it's heartbreaking to suspect her as a spy
spies6Kirsten (10:19:49 PM): I'll be back in a while
Monday, June 15, 2009
spies6Kirsten (12:53:44 AM): back if you're still here
spies6Kirsten (12:53:53 AM): sorry, that was longer than "a while"
spies6mirela (12:53:56 AM): yes i'm here
spies6Kirsten (12:54:43 AM): why would you think Iris admitted to all the spies that she had a role if you think Iris is a spy?
spies6mirela (12:56:24 AM): well her role could very well be false
spies6mirela (12:56:38 AM): we still don't know how her role officially worked
spies6mirela (12:56:43 AM): we just now basic things
spies6mirela (12:56:59 AM): for example, did callahan and did donald know they had these gifts
spies6Kirsten (12:58:26 AM): yes, they both should have
spies6mirela (12:59:07 AM): was callahan in control of this power though?
spies6Kirsten (12:59:42 AM): according to Iris, yes
spies6mirela (1:00:01 AM): i don't understand why he didn't use it then
spies6mirela (1:00:14 AM): i'm sure he had some sort of inkling he could be voted off
spies6Kirsten (1:00:27 AM): he might have used it
spies6mirela (1:01:20 AM): ugh how confusing
spies6mirela (1:01:26 AM): i mean, her role is really specific
spies6mirela (1:01:59 AM): and she stated very specific things
spies6mirela (1:02:12 AM): that can show she is a citizen
spies6Kirsten (1:02:33 AM): I find it kind of sketchy how two of her targets are dead and cannot confirm anything
spies6mirela (1:03:00 AM): LOL
spies6mirela (1:04:16 AM): what about ariel?
spies6Kirsten (1:05:03 AM): what do you mean?
spies6mirela (1:05:11 AM): what do you think of her?
spies6Kirsten (1:05:20 AM): she's not blazing trails on my citizen list right now
spies6Kirsten (1:05:45 AM): I think she could very well be a spy, although she's not a top priority suspect for me right now
spies6mirela (1:06:02 AM): if iris isn't then ariel is
spies6mirela (1:07:13 AM): now i start to wonder who the spies will imprison next
spies6Kirsten (1:07:22 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (1:07:23 AM): yes
spies6Kirsten (1:07:31 AM): the burg is a madhouse right now
spies6mirela (1:07:44 AM): totally, and it's a little scary
spies6Kirsten (1:07:55 AM): rey flipped out pretty hard tonight
spies6mirela (1:08:05 AM): really?
spies6mirela (1:08:07 AM): in what way?
spies6Kirsten (1:08:17 AM): he blocked me on AIM because he thought I was joking about him being a spy
spies6mirela (1:08:23 AM): ?
spies6mirela (1:08:30 AM): that's overly dramatic
spies6Kirsten (1:08:33 AM): I wasn't even joking about him being a spy, and secondly, why would he block me over that?
spies6Kirsten (1:08:34 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:08:48 AM): people are going insane, Mirela
spies6mirela (1:09:02 AM): but for what reason? i don't seem to understand why people are going nuts
spies6Kirsten (1:09:08 AM): haha, neither do I
spies6Kirsten (1:09:15 AM): isn't that the beauty of it?
spies6mirela (1:09:19 AM): haha yes
spies6Kirsten (1:09:22 AM): that's what being insane is all about, nobody knows why
spies6mirela (1:09:35 AM): it could be spy distractions for all we know
spies6Kirsten (1:09:47 AM): yes, it could be
spies6Kirsten (1:09:57 AM): man, I knew Faith was going to be a citizen
spies6Kirsten (1:10:07 AM): I tried to get people to vote Iris
spies6mirela (1:10:23 AM): but voting faith cleared up a lot of things
spies6mirela (1:10:28 AM): well
spies6mirela (1:10:29 AM): not really
spies6mirela (1:10:40 AM): but it gives us more ideas on who to suspect
spies6mirela (1:11:49 AM): people right now seem to be suspecting iris, william, and boris
spies6mirela (1:11:55 AM): and georgia
spies6Kirsten (1:12:04 AM): yep
spies6Kirsten (1:12:12 AM): Mirela
spies6Kirsten (1:12:20 AM): the initial teams had 11/11/10 players in them
spies6mirela (1:12:28 AM): what does that mean?
spies6Kirsten (1:12:41 AM): it seems likely that each team had at least 2 spies in them
spies6mirela (1:12:53 AM): but sam said it was completely randomized
spies6Kirsten (1:13:06 AM): yep, but even randomized, Sam said the chance was like 98% that there was a spy in each team
spies6mirela (1:13:13 AM): hmmm
spies6Kirsten (1:13:20 AM): your team has 5 dead citizens, no caught spies
spies6mirela (1:13:52 AM): i see what your getting at
spies6mirela (1:14:03 AM): i hope your not implying i myself is a spy
spies6Kirsten (1:14:03 AM): you, thor, ariel, iris, khaled
spies6Kirsten (1:14:08 AM): nope
spies6mirela (1:14:17 AM): i mean are you kidding
spies6mirela (1:14:17 AM): me
spies6mirela (1:14:24 AM): freakin ariel and iris on my team
spies6Kirsten (1:14:24 AM): haha
spies6mirela (1:14:33 AM): AND thors
spies6Kirsten (1:14:34 AM): I'm not implying that you are a spy
spies6Kirsten (1:14:49 AM): I'm suggesting that if you are a citizen, there is a good chance that any other player on your team is a spy
spies6Kirsten (1:15:10 AM): so who are those spies?
spies6mirela (1:15:14 AM): well knowing that, my suspicions remain with iris and ariel LOL
spies6mirela (1:15:26 AM): thor as well
spies6Kirsten (1:15:35 AM): not suspicious of Khaled at all?
spies6mirela (1:15:43 AM): i'm surprised he hasn't been exiled
spies6mirela (1:16:00 AM): and he believed my reasoning for doing poorly in the challenge
spies6mirela (1:16:06 AM): i mean imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (1:16:14 AM): ok, that makes a little more sense :-)
spies6mirela (1:16:29 AM): sorry i get the two confused all the time
spies6mirela (1:16:32 AM): lol
spies6Kirsten (1:16:33 AM): it's all good
spies6mirela (1:16:48 AM): i mean if it weren't for him i could've gotten exiled
spies6Kirsten (1:17:20 AM): yeah, he did help to make sure you weren't exiled
spies6mirela (1:17:40 AM): i'm thinking he's a citizen for saving a fellow citizen
spies6mirela (1:18:09 AM): also i hope me being immune helps people realize i'm a citizen lol
spies6mirela (1:18:14 AM): well i mean not totally
spies6mirela (1:18:24 AM): but at least think of me in a less suspicious way
spies6Kirsten (1:18:36 AM): I doubt that will happen
spies6Kirsten (1:18:41 AM): but you never know
spies6mirela (1:18:43 AM): nope
spies6mirela (1:18:57 AM): right now the burgs top suspects are william and iris
spies6Kirsten (1:19:11 AM): yep
spies6mirela (1:19:13 AM): i have a feeling it'll be between them next episode
spies6Kirsten (1:19:26 AM): I think it's going to depend on Iris
spies6Kirsten (1:19:30 AM): how her claim adds up
spies6Kirsten (1:20:00 AM): a video session?
spies6mirela (1:20:10 AM): sorry, pressed a wrong button
spies6Kirsten (1:20:13 AM): haha
spies6mirela (1:21:08 AM): she needs to be extremely careful with what she says
spies6mirela (1:21:12 AM): and mix ups and it's game over
spies6mirela (1:21:20 AM): any*
spies6Kirsten (1:21:36 AM): do you think she's telling the truth about it?
spies6mirela (1:21:43 AM): well her claim sounds specific
spies6mirela (1:21:52 AM): and detailed, so i mean it very well could be true
spies6mirela (1:22:06 AM): but i don't understand why she'd freak out and immediately inform the burg she has a role
spies6mirela (1:22:11 AM): she just put a target on her back
spies6Kirsten (1:22:21 AM): she's already used her role, apparently
spies6mirela (1:22:23 AM): not only that
spies6mirela (1:22:47 AM): but the ratio of votes for iris and votes for faith made her claim basically pointless
spies6Kirsten (1:22:57 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:23:00 AM): although she couldn't have known
spies6mirela (1:23:26 AM): was this in a private chat
spies6Kirsten (1:23:33 AM): public
spies6mirela (1:23:34 AM): like iris claiming she has a role
spies6mirela (1:23:40 AM): or in the exile chat
spies6Kirsten (1:23:45 AM): spies6 chat room
spies6mirela (1:24:04 AM): ah
spies6mirela (1:24:10 AM): someone should post that chat immedfiately
spies6mirela (1:25:23 AM): why hasn't someone done that yet?
spies6Kirsten (1:28:04 AM): I don't know
spies6Kirsten (1:28:32 AM): I can post it tonight
spies6Kirsten (1:28:46 AM): but I'm going to err on the side of laziness right now
spies6mirela (1:28:50 AM): the game will soon be coming down to the wire. but we have a lot of time left
spies6mirela (1:29:06 AM): it feels like a long road, but it's going by fast
spies6Kirsten (1:29:17 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:29:26 AM): I just want to catch the next spy in line
spies6Kirsten (1:29:36 AM): which I would guess is either Iris or Ariel, but unlikely to be both
spies6mirela (1:29:56 AM): my vote will be for iris or ariel next episode
spies6mirela (1:30:00 AM): i can gurantee you that
spies6mirela (1:30:11 AM): depending on how well iris defends herself
spies6mirela (1:30:18 AM): and depending how she presents this role
spies6mirela (1:30:24 AM): that she apparently had
spies6mirela (1:32:12 AM): i have a question
spies6Kirsten (1:32:42 AM): shoot
spies6Kirsten (1:32:47 AM): I may or may not have an answer
spies6mirela (1:33:04 AM): well do you think its possible that ariel is a spy, due to ed's imprisonment?
spies6Kirsten (1:33:21 AM): I don't think Ed's imprisonment frames her, but I do think it's possible she's a spy
spies6mirela (1:34:04 AM): what i'm saying is that ed told you and ariel that he was told he'll be imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (1:34:10 AM): right
spies6mirela (1:34:24 AM): however it the imprisonment could be switched
spies6mirela (1:35:17 AM): i didn't get that situation much
spies6mirela (1:35:29 AM): although i don't see why ed told ariel
spies6Kirsten (1:35:38 AM): I think he trusted her at the time
spies6Kirsten (1:35:54 AM): although right before imprisonment, I asked him for suspicions, and he said he was suspicious of Ariel
spies6mirela (1:36:13 AM): how does that make sense
spies6mirela (1:36:31 AM): how could he suddenly change his mind from the time he told ariel something extremely important
spies6Kirsten (1:36:41 AM): well, in between that point was the exile
spies6mirela (1:36:45 AM): to suddenly suspecting her?
spies6mirela (1:36:46 AM): oh
spies6Kirsten (1:36:58 AM): and Ed thought Ariel's vote on Rey which later became Levi was suspicious
spies6mirela (1:37:37 AM): hmm
spies6mirela (1:37:49 AM): i don't like how ariel's suddenly becoming active all of a sudden
spies6Kirsten (1:38:28 AM): what don't you like about that?
spies6mirela (1:39:29 AM): well before she was barely on
spies6mirela (1:39:37 AM): the first time i talked to her was tonight
spies6mirela (1:40:23 AM): i
spies6mirela (1:40:30 AM): m looking over my conversations with iris
spies6mirela (1:42:21 AM): she told me she believed yvette framed her, rather than faith
spies6mirela (1:43:05 AM): she also stated at the time (which was episode two) that she was going to vote mei yun
spies6mirela (1:43:42 AM): she told me she didn't trust faith either, after that situation. and said she needed to get closer with her to see if she's a cit or spy
spies6Kirsten (1:44:51 AM): hmm
spies6mirela (1:45:00 AM): i don't know if that helps
spies6Kirsten (1:45:10 AM): she believe Yvette framed her not Faith?
spies6Kirsten (1:45:16 AM): I thought episode 2 she thought it was faith
spies6mirela (1:46:31 AM): she cleared it up with faith though
spies6mirela (1:46:39 AM): and iris began to suspect it was yvette's doing
spies6mirela (1:46:48 AM): also i was revewing a convo with gabriela
spies6mirela (1:46:57 AM): we told each other our top five suspects
spies6mirela (1:47:41 AM): she said she suspected iris, levi, georgia, thor, and ed the most
spies6mirela (1:47:48 AM): funny how only one of them is a dead citizen
spies6Kirsten (1:47:56 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:48:10 AM): why do you suspect Thor?
spies6mirela (1:48:24 AM): he seems strange. and he's been for faith since forever
spies6mirela (1:48:41 AM): even before the yvette exile he was hellbent on faith
spies6Kirsten (1:49:21 AM): he and Ariel are not spies together
spies6Kirsten (1:49:26 AM): that much I know
spies6mirela (1:49:39 AM): well one of them has to be it
spies6mirela (1:49:42 AM): more likely ariel
spies6Kirsten (1:49:58 AM): if Ariel is a spy, thor is probably a cit. If thor's a spy, Ariel's probably a cit
spies6mirela (1:50:24 AM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (1:50:50 AM): in fact, I feel like I should go through
spies6Kirsten (1:50:55 AM): and look at that for everyone
spies6Kirsten (1:50:58 AM): see if it tells me anything
spies6mirela (1:51:23 AM): also i have some peculiar information on iris
spies6Kirsten (1:51:35 AM): peculiar? haha
spies6Kirsten (1:51:46 AM): sounds like 1700's victorian evidence
spies6Kirsten (1:51:51 AM): but proceed, please
spies6mirela (1:52:14 AM): well iris said (this is for exile number three)
spies6mirela (1:52:20 AM): she was changing her vote to you
spies6Kirsten (1:52:28 AM): heh, yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:52:39 AM): I remember that
spies6mirela (1:52:40 AM): she actually defended donald
spies6Kirsten (1:52:45 AM): right
spies6Kirsten (1:52:57 AM): she was changing her vote to me because I made that Donald case and then said I was going to vote Levi
spies6Kirsten (1:53:14 AM): but yeah, that is kind of peculiar
spies6mirela (1:53:51 AM): actually its weird
spies6mirela (1:53:57 AM): it was a short conversation
spies6mirela (1:54:08 AM): at the beginning she said she's changing her vote to you
spies6mirela (1:54:21 AM): in the middle she says yvette must be a spy, she's my top suspect
spies6mirela (1:54:37 AM): but that she hates voting for people who aren't here
spies6Kirsten (1:54:51 AM): hold that thought
spies6Kirsten (1:55:06 AM): do you remember her confessional "post" she made
spies6mirela (1:55:10 AM): then she says she's going to vote amelia
spies6mirela (1:55:14 AM): hmmm i think so
spies6Kirsten (1:55:21 AM): when she was jailed
spies6Kirsten (1:55:27 AM): she said she would have voted for Donald if he was around
spies6Kirsten (1:55:36 AM): but, Donald was away, just like Yvette was
spies6mirela (1:55:46 AM): exactly
spies6Kirsten (1:56:03 AM): so if it was a deterrence from voting Yvette, why not a deterrence from voting Donald
spies6mirela (1:56:46 AM): maybe that's were she slipped up
spies6mirela (1:57:03 AM): and its really scummy how she jumped from suspect to suspect for exile 3
spies6mirela (1:57:34 AM): basically at the end she said (not directly but it was obvious due to her wording) that she's not voting for you cause your more likely not going to be exiled
spies6mirela (1:57:45 AM): and that she won't vote for yvette because she's not around
spies6Kirsten (1:58:35 AM): but was Amelia likely to be exiled at all?
spies6mirela (1:58:45 AM): i don't know
spies6mirela (1:58:51 AM): iris was all over the place
spies6Kirsten (1:59:03 AM): was she Irate?
spies6mirela (1:59:11 AM): irate/
spies6mirela (1:59:12 AM): ?
spies6Kirsten (1:59:25 AM): sorry, just ignore me
spies6Kirsten (1:59:39 AM): I keep bringing up the title to her post (Irate Iris)
spies6mirela (2:00:22 AM): lol
spies6mirela (2:00:44 AM): going over these conversations is making me suspicious of her more and more
spies6mirela (2:01:20 AM): do you think iris told anyone else about her role?
spies6Kirsten (2:01:21 AM): and your only conversations with Ariel were from today?
spies6mirela (2:01:26 AM): yes unfortunately
spies6Kirsten (2:01:28 AM): ok
spies6Kirsten (2:01:34 AM): no, I think today was the first mention of it
spies6mirela (2:01:47 AM): not even in secret?
spies6Kirsten (2:01:53 AM): from what I understand, no
spies6mirela (2:02:10 AM): do you think she's telling the truth?
spies6Kirsten (2:05:17 AM): Iris?
spies6Kirsten (2:05:19 AM): right now, no
spies6mirela (2:05:31 AM): that she didn't tell anyone
spies6Kirsten (2:05:34 AM): but I would love whoever the 3rd person is to step forward and confirm they received a gift
spies6Kirsten (2:05:41 AM): oh, about telling anyone
spies6Kirsten (2:05:44 AM): I don't know
spies6Kirsten (2:05:54 AM): well, I think she's lying about her role, so she didn't tell anyone because she didn't hvae a role to tell
spies6mirela (2:06:07 AM): lol
spies6mirela (2:06:16 AM): and the fact her gift receivers are dead
spies6mirela (2:06:23 AM): a gift of DEATH
spies6Kirsten (2:06:30 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:06:35 AM): she granted Callahan and Donald, death
spies6mirela (2:06:50 AM): and the third one....i'm curious as to why she refused to state it
spies6Kirsten (2:07:56 AM): here's my guess
spies6Kirsten (2:08:01 AM): she didn't have a 3rd one
spies6Kirsten (2:08:05 AM): and she wanted to just last long enough
spies6Kirsten (2:08:09 AM): to survive that exile
spies6Kirsten (2:08:22 AM): and then after the fact, her laptop coincidentally ran out of battery power
spies6Kirsten (2:08:33 AM): giving her plenty of time to think up any details she needed
spies6mirela (2:08:45 AM): LOL
spies6mirela (2:08:53 AM): did it really?
spies6mirela (2:08:58 AM): she was pretty put on the spot
spies6Kirsten (2:09:13 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:09:18 AM): after she claimed, she left AIM
spies6Kirsten (2:09:23 AM): well, except on her phone
spies6mirela (2:10:23 AM): oh wow
spies6mirela (2:10:31 AM): whose going to believe that
spies6mirela (2:10:46 AM): we need to make a new thread on iris
spies6mirela (2:10:50 AM): presenting everything
spies6Kirsten (2:11:17 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:11:20 AM): I plan to do that tonight
spies6mirela (2:13:58 AM): i plan on having a long conversation with ariel tomorrow
spies6mirela (2:14:03 AM): i'd also like to talk to iris
spies6Kirsten (2:14:10 AM): I would like to speak with Iris as well
spies6Kirsten (2:14:16 AM): nail down her role claim
spies6mirela (2:16:32 AM): do you think we'd figure out more from an iris or ariel lynch
spies6Kirsten (2:17:05 AM): Ariel, although i'd rather lynch who is the better suspect, not for information
spies6mirela (2:18:03 AM): well ariel will be the better suspect if iris defends herself correctly
spies6mirela (2:18:24 AM): besides if ariel is a citzen, that'll be catching two spies
spies6mirela (2:18:31 AM): most likely thor and iris
spies6mirela (2:18:51 AM): i think thasts worth it
spies6Kirsten (2:18:58 AM): but better yet
spies6Kirsten (2:19:03 AM): get rid of Iris, if she's a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:19:09 AM): then we don't have to waste an exile
spies6mirela (2:19:22 AM): i suppose
spies6Kirsten (2:20:09 AM): it wouldn't be terribly to hit the wrong one out of the two of them
spies6Kirsten (2:20:13 AM): but it would be much better to hit the right one
spies6mirela (2:20:22 AM): yeah we've missed twice with those girls
spies6Kirsten (2:20:32 AM): I haven't missed yet
spies6Kirsten (2:20:35 AM): ;-)
spies6mirela (2:22:19 AM): haha
spies6mirela (2:22:29 AM): your the new yvette kirsten
spies6Kirsten (2:23:00 AM): I'm going to declare martial law on the burg
spies6Kirsten (2:23:05 AM): force people to do my bidding
spies6mirela (2:23:12 AM): lol
spies6mirela (2:23:21 AM): wow there are so many different kinds of players on this game
spies6Kirsten (2:23:49 AM): yep
spies6mirela (2:24:03 AM): for example you like to take things head on
spies6mirela (2:24:10 AM): your extremely active on the burgs
spies6mirela (2:24:24 AM): me on the other hand, i'm very active on aim
spies6Kirsten (2:24:40 AM): I'm very active on both
spies6Kirsten (2:24:42 AM): I need a hobby :-)
spies6mirela (2:24:45 AM): haha
spies6mirela (2:25:15 AM): have you played sams spies before?
spies6Kirsten (2:25:34 AM): negative
spies6mirela (2:25:43 AM): this is your first?
spies6Kirsten (2:26:04 AM): yeah
spies6mirela (2:26:15 AM): wow
spies6Kirsten (2:26:29 AM): why is that a wow?
spies6mirela (2:26:45 AM): because your doing such a great job
spies6Kirsten (2:26:53 AM): haha, well I thank you
spies6mirela (2:27:15 AM): spies take a lot out of me x3
spies6mirela (2:27:33 AM): it eats up your life
spies6Kirsten (2:27:47 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:27:50 AM): it's eating my life and my soul
spies6Kirsten (2:27:54 AM): but I'm going to keep playing
spies6Kirsten (2:27:58 AM): if that sounds alright
spies6mirela (2:28:29 AM): of course me too
spies6Kirsten (2:33:11 AM): Iris says she was sick
spies6Kirsten (2:33:16 AM): and that's why she didn't post this episode
spies6mirela (2:33:25 AM): when did she say that
spies6Kirsten (2:33:31 AM): we chatted at the beginning of the episode
spies6Kirsten (2:33:34 AM): she wasn't sick
spies6Kirsten (2:33:41 AM): not sure, in chat I think
spies6mirela (2:35:26 AM): ooooo kirsten caught another lie!
spies6Kirsten (2:35:53 AM): eh, she will claim
spies6Kirsten (2:35:57 AM): that she was sick after we chatted
spies6mirela (2:36:10 AM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (2:41:24 AM): Iris was also caught on invisible mode tonight too
spies6Kirsten (2:41:32 AM): I wish I knew how long she was online but invisible
spies6mirela (2:41:58 AM): LOL
spies6mirela (2:42:01 AM): uh oh
spies6mirela (2:42:06 AM): man everything is adding up
spies6Kirsten (2:46:34 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:58:55 AM): say we exile Iris and she's a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:58:58 AM): what's the next step?
spies6mirela (2:59:15 AM): if iris is a spy
spies6mirela (2:59:22 AM): then ariel is more likely to be a citizen
spies6mirela (2:59:29 AM): so we focus our suspicions on thor and william
spies6mirela (3:00:04 AM): how does that sound?
spies6Kirsten (3:00:23 AM): sounds like a horrible plan
spies6Kirsten (3:00:28 AM): atrocious
spies6Kirsten (3:00:34 AM): ;-)
spies6mirela (3:00:36 AM): lol really?
spies6mirela (3:00:42 AM): XD
spies6Kirsten (3:00:50 AM): yes. I can't believe you would even suggest that
spies6Kirsten (3:00:52 AM): :-)
spies6mirela (3:01:00 AM): lol
spies6Kirsten (3:01:01 AM): nah, I think that sounds decent
spies6mirela (3:01:03 AM): you crazy girlfriend
spies6Kirsten (3:01:08 AM): not as crazy as Rey
spies6mirela (3:01:12 AM): rey is psycho
spies6Kirsten (3:01:20 AM): but I will not deny accusations of my craziness
spies6mirela (3:01:25 AM): your not thatcrazy

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (5:25:26 PM): hello Rey
spies6Kirsten (5:25:37 PM): I think your buddy Thor might be a spy
spies6rey (5:25:40 PM): heeeeeey .
spies6rey (5:25:49 PM): i hope not.</3
spies6rey (5:25:59 PM): i'm going to delude myself that he isn't.
spies6rey (5:26:05 PM): and i am never going to vote for him.
spies6Kirsten (5:26:15 PM): you're never going to vote fo rhim?
spies6Kirsten (5:26:17 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:26:19 PM): why's that?
spies6Kirsten (5:26:39 PM): you also don't want to vote Iris either. Do you have an aversion to voting for spies?
spies6Kirsten (5:27:08 PM): also, do you regularly view spies ;-)
spies6rey (5:28:58 PM): haha sorry major lag right now.
spies6rey (5:29:18 PM): i don't want to vote for thor because i don't think he is a spy; or i don't want to think he is a spy, haha.
spies6rey (5:29:34 PM): and no, i don't know why you, jenya, and/or georgia accuse me of that.
spies6Kirsten (5:29:43 PM): but why is that? Did he whisper sweet nothings into your ear?
spies6rey (5:30:00 PM): haha yeah. ;-)
spies6Kirsten (5:30:03 PM): figures
spies6rey (5:30:07 PM): just kidding, but i don't think he is a spy.
spies6rey (5:30:16 PM): he's too dumb.
spies6Kirsten (5:30:22 PM): Thor?
spies6rey (5:30:23 PM): well that's not the reason,
spies6Kirsten (5:30:28 PM): Thor isn't dumb
spies6rey (5:30:36 PM): really bad at making cases to be honest.
spies6rey (5:30:45 PM): you should have seen his georgia case, it was LOLZ.
spies6Kirsten (5:30:53 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:30:56 PM): was it in the burg?
spies6rey (5:31:31 PM): haha i don't know, but he sent it to me via PM.
spies6rey (5:31:34 PM): or something.
spies6rey (5:31:37 PM): major lag.
spies6rey (5:31:40 PM): let me close epicmafia.
spies6rey (5:31:41 PM): -.-
spies6Kirsten (5:31:45 PM): what do you think about Iris and the numerous lies she has tried to mesh together into a roleclaim?
spies6rey (5:31:55 PM): haha no more lag !
spies6Kirsten (5:31:59 PM): great
spies6rey (5:33:42 PM): i think that sam could have actually put that role in the game. it was confirmed by amelia, regardless of alignment, and i can actually see it work. the only problem is 1. sam wouldn't be able to control the time she sent her choices in so she SHOULD have been able to choose better players, and 2. i might have actually caught her in a lie (damn i'm still lagging)
spies6Kirsten (5:33:57 PM): here's a simple test
spies6Kirsten (5:34:04 PM): She says she lied about the confessional thing
spies6Kirsten (5:34:13 PM): she later clarifies that as a part of the role she had to lie
spies6Kirsten (5:34:27 PM): but then she goes ahead and tells the truth about what she really gave Donald
spies6Kirsten (5:34:35 PM): I'm sorry, I was under the impression she had to lie about it?
spies6Kirsten (5:34:37 PM): guess not?
spies6Kirsten (5:34:38 PM): busted
spies6rey (5:34:40 PM): i know.
spies6rey (5:34:42 PM): that was weird.
spies6Kirsten (5:34:50 PM): it's not weird. It's a lie
spies6rey (5:34:52 PM): did you ask her about that?
spies6Kirsten (5:34:57 PM): nope, I haven't
spies6Kirsten (5:34:59 PM): I'm waiting
spies6Kirsten (5:35:10 PM): I want to see how other people handle it before I drop that bomb over Irisland
spies6rey (5:35:12 PM): we don't know if she lied again about the new power she says she gave donald. :-P
spies6Kirsten (5:36:33 PM): dude, she's lying. Nobody has a role that they have to lie about.
spies6Kirsten (5:36:51 PM): and she wouldn't give that answer about Donald
spies6Kirsten (5:36:57 PM): if she was telling the truth about having to lie
spies6Kirsten (5:37:06 PM): she would simply say "I cannot answer, I have to lie abuot that"
spies6rey (5:37:47 PM): hmm.
spies6rey (5:38:27 PM): yeah, i can't see anything left that can defend iris from what you just pointed out to me.
spies6rey (5:38:43 PM): you make an extremely good point.
spies6rey (5:38:59 PM): i'm going to look bad switching her back to suspect -.-
spies6rey (5:39:07 PM): so i won't for the time-being.
spies6rey (5:39:26 PM): but..
spies6rey (5:39:47 PM): wait.
spies6rey (5:39:53 PM): she said she had to LIE about it.
spies6rey (5:40:03 PM): doesn't mean that she had to continue
spies6rey (5:40:12 PM): she did lie about it.
spies6Kirsten (5:40:14 PM): rey
spies6Kirsten (5:40:21 PM): roles that have to lie about something are almost non-existent
spies6Kirsten (5:40:28 PM): and those roles are not allowed to ever comment on the lie
spies6Kirsten (5:40:39 PM): if she had to lie aobut it, she wouldn't be at liberty to even discuss how she had to lie about it
spies6Kirsten (5:40:48 PM): let alone later tell the truth
spies6Kirsten (5:41:06 PM): Here's the truth:
spies6Kirsten (5:41:10 PM): Iris makes up a claim
spies6Kirsten (5:41:18 PM): Iris makes up roles she gave out
spies6Kirsten (5:41:27 PM): One of those roles contradicts a moderator rule
spies6Kirsten (5:41:34 PM): Iris goes "oh shit" I'm screwed
spies6Kirsten (5:41:41 PM): so she says she has to lie about it
spies6rey (5:41:51 PM): nobody notices until rey comes along. perhaps she didn't even notice?
spies6Kirsten (5:41:53 PM): and then proceeds to tell a different story
spies6Kirsten (5:42:17 PM): right, I doubt she noticed that her claim of viewing one confessional post was already contradicted by Sam
spies6Kirsten (5:42:37 PM): her "I have to lie" story is the only way she could cover it up
spies6rey (5:42:42 PM): well do you think iris and amelia are spies together?
spies6Kirsten (5:42:48 PM): hmm...I'm not sure on that
spies6rey (5:43:01 PM): the only way that iris is a spy is if amelia is a spy.
spies6Kirsten (5:43:04 PM): Amelia as a spy would be pretty stupid to tie herself to the sinking ship that is Iris
spies6Kirsten (5:43:08 PM): not necessarily
spies6Kirsten (5:43:20 PM): in spies 5, the spies had imprisonment immunity
spies6Kirsten (5:43:24 PM): that they gave to soemone
spies6rey (5:43:31 PM): they could give it away? o.O
spies6Kirsten (5:43:40 PM): for the purpose of confirming themselves
spies6rey (5:43:49 PM): did they use it as such?
spies6Kirsten (5:43:51 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (5:43:59 PM): and the spy who got it lasted 3 extra episodes as a result
spies6rey (5:44:23 PM): i see.
spies6rey (5:44:39 PM): it's bugging me that so many spies are coming from the top row.
spies6rey (5:44:44 PM): i like to see diversity.
spies6rey (5:44:45 PM): :-P
spies6Kirsten (5:44:49 PM): Amelia could be a spy as well. I'm not sure on that. Her confirmation post seemed kind of sketch
spies6rey (5:44:58 PM): mm.
spies6Kirsten (5:44:59 PM): haha, me too
spies6Kirsten (5:45:02 PM): I was bothered by that as well
spies6Kirsten (5:45:06 PM): the 19 spies on the top row
spies6rey (5:45:14 PM): haha yupp.
spies6Kirsten (5:45:56 PM): it's probably a 4-2-2 breakdown
spies6Kirsten (5:46:02 PM): Iris + the other 3 on the top row
spies6rey (5:46:13 PM): LOL.
spies6rey (5:46:15 PM): :-P
spies6Kirsten (5:46:25 PM): Thor/Boris + jaya in the middle
spies6Kirsten (5:46:37 PM): and Amelia + william on the bottom
spies6Kirsten (5:46:44 PM): or Khaled + william
spies6Kirsten (5:46:51 PM): or Khaled + Ariel, or any of those
spies6rey (5:47:03 PM): i love your choices, except the thor/boris and ariel ones.
spies6Kirsten (5:47:14 PM): if Thor is a spy, then Ariel is not
spies6Kirsten (5:47:18 PM): and vice versa
spies6rey (5:47:28 PM): or they are both citizens. ^O^
spies6Kirsten (5:47:32 PM): it's possibl
spies6Kirsten (5:47:36 PM): then Khaled would probably be a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:47:43 PM): I bet there is more than 1 spy from that original team
spies6rey (5:47:46 PM): i think mirela or khaled is a better choice.
spies6rey (5:47:53 PM): perhaps even both.
spies6Kirsten (5:48:11 PM): Mirela gives me mixed reads, but overall I find her cit
spies6rey (5:48:22 PM): okaay.
spies6rey (5:48:51 PM): anyways, exiling amelia would be ideal for this exile.
spies6Kirsten (5:49:09 PM): not Iris?
spies6rey (5:50:06 PM): in my opinion amelia is a spy, and amelia spy makes iris spy more likely.
spies6Kirsten (5:50:27 PM): I thought you agreed with me about Iris lying
spies6rey (5:50:35 PM): i do.
spies6rey (5:50:46 PM): i guess i think amelia looks worse than iris. :-P
spies6rey (5:51:01 PM): both in scumminess and looks, haha.
spies6Kirsten (5:51:04 PM): how could amelia possibly look worse than the player who is lying about a roleclaim to save themselves from exile?
spies6rey (5:51:08 PM): mm.
spies6rey (5:51:09 PM): true.
spies6rey (5:51:16 PM): how many roles do you think we have this game?
spies6rey (5:51:38 PM): two have claimed thus far, three if you count iris' claim as a "role"
spies6Kirsten (5:52:43 PM): not sure
spies6Kirsten (5:52:53 PM): probably 4-5 citizen roles
spies6rey (5:58:40 PM): i see.

[Kirsten]

spies6levi (3:55:11 PM): Hey
spies6Kirsten (3:55:18 PM): hi
spies6levi (3:57:02 PM): What's happening?
spies6Kirsten (3:57:10 PM): not too much
spies6levi (3:58:30 PM): I'm still thinking about Iris
spies6Kirsten (3:58:39 PM): she's a spy
spies6Kirsten (3:59:47 PM): but what are your thoughts on her?
spies6Kirsten (3:59:49 PM): :-)
spies6levi (3:59:54 PM): I don't know
spies6levi (4:00:01 PM): Amelia stopped by and confirmed the role
spies6Kirsten (4:01:00 PM): she confirmed imprisonment immunity
spies6Kirsten (4:01:07 PM): the role is still at large
spies6levi (4:01:21 PM): So how else did she get the immunity?
spies6Kirsten (4:01:51 PM): couple of possibilities. She's a spy and is lying to save a spy buddy. Spies have the ability to give imprisonment immunity for the sake of confirming themselves
spies6levi (4:02:42 PM): Or Iris is a cit who awarded an imprisonment immunity at the very beginning of the game to Amelia
spies6Kirsten (4:04:08 PM): or a spy who did the same
spies6Kirsten (4:04:18 PM): Levi, you were at the opening chat and stuff, right?
spies6levi (4:04:22 PM): Yes
spies6Kirsten (4:04:25 PM): Was Iris there?
spies6levi (4:04:32 PM): I do not remember
spies6Kirsten (4:04:46 PM): I'm pretty sure she was, because I remember people talking about her for the opening chat challenge
spies6Kirsten (4:04:53 PM): was Amelia there?
spies6levi (4:05:20 PM): I don't remember either, I just remember the announcements
spies6Kirsten (4:05:31 PM): or what about before the opening chat
spies6levi (4:05:32 PM): Sorry that I don't remember the list of everyone in attendance
spies6levi (4:05:33 PM): :-(
spies6Kirsten (4:05:39 PM): no, it's fine
spies6Kirsten (4:05:44 PM): I'm not accusing you of anything, hah
spies6Kirsten (4:05:59 PM): do you remember if Iris was around at all opening day?
spies6levi (4:06:06 PM): I don't remember Iris or Amelia being around
spies6Kirsten (4:06:09 PM): ok
spies6levi (4:06:16 PM): Most of the people I remember are gone :-(
spies6levi (4:06:22 PM): Mei, Robert, Callahan, Yvette
spies6levi (4:06:34 PM): Rey was there, so was Gabriela, I think
spies6levi (4:06:37 PM): Ariel, obv
spies6Kirsten (4:07:46 PM): alright
spies6levi (4:08:44 PM): Found it
spies6levi (4:08:47 PM): Iris was there
spies6levi (4:08:49 PM): spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pub94095&action=display&thread=493
spies6Kirsten (4:09:18 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (4:09:19 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (4:09:29 PM): if you were Iris, why would you give imprisonment immunity to Amelia?
spies6Kirsten (4:09:34 PM): put yourself in her shoes
spies6levi (4:09:50 PM): Her picture looked nice?
spies6Kirsten (4:09:52 PM): wouldn't you give it to Mei Yun, or Ariel, or Robert, or Yvette?
spies6Kirsten (4:09:58 PM): someone who displayed smarts opening day
spies6levi (4:10:10 PM): But that all depends on the exact timing of when she had to give the gifts out
spies6Kirsten (4:10:11 PM): why would you pick a lurker who hadn't showed up yet
spies6Kirsten (4:10:19 PM): we didn't have roles at that point
spies6Kirsten (4:10:30 PM): she didn't get her role until the following day
spies6levi (4:10:42 PM): She said something to the contrary
spies6levi (4:10:50 PM): Iris said she got her's day 1
spies6Kirsten (4:10:55 PM): then she's lying
spies6levi (4:11:02 PM): Because Sam didn't want to give the roles to people who received gifts
spies6Kirsten (4:11:08 PM): Sam made an announcement saying he hadn't given out roles yet
spies6levi (4:11:32 PM): I have little faith in Iris left
spies6Kirsten (4:11:42 PM): so basically anyone who got a gift couldn't have a role?
spies6levi (4:11:47 PM): Btw, I just noticed something very interesting
spies6levi (4:11:52 PM): This is unrelated
spies6Kirsten (4:12:02 PM): nobody got jailed this episode...maybe donald was the jailer...he got a gift
spies6levi (4:12:14 PM): Or maybe the jailer was a one time thing
spies6Kirsten (4:12:18 PM): possible
spies6Kirsten (4:12:25 PM): maybe it was a gift
spies6Kirsten (4:12:26 PM): :-)
spies6levi (4:12:32 PM): There is so much WIFOM in this argument
spies6Kirsten (4:12:46 PM): (I don't believe in WIFOM, but present away)
spies6levi (4:12:46 PM): Right now I am believing you
spies6levi (4:12:53 PM): No, the WIFOM was about Iris
spies6levi (4:13:22 PM): In the endurance challenge
spies6levi (4:13:41 PM): The ten people who stayed in the running
spies6levi (4:13:58 PM): Were Iris, Rey, Georgia, Mei, Yvette, me, Ariel, Faith, Jaya, and Pete
spies6levi (4:14:05 PM): We know there is at least one Spy there
spies6levi (4:14:30 PM): Later it's down to Iris, Rey, Mei, Ariel, Faith, Jaya
spies6levi (4:14:33 PM): Still at least one spy
spies6levi (4:14:38 PM): Now read the timeline in the thread
spies6levi (4:14:43 PM): Faith accidentally leaves
spies6levi (4:14:47 PM): Iris accidentally leaves
spies6levi (4:14:56 PM): Jaya voluntarily leaves
spies6Kirsten (4:15:15 PM): hmm
spies6levi (4:15:36 PM): There were three people left then
spies6levi (4:15:41 PM): Mei, Ariel, Rey
spies6levi (4:15:45 PM): We know that Mei was cit
spies6Kirsten (4:15:55 PM): right
spies6levi (4:16:04 PM): Why would Jaya "voluntarily" leave?
spies6levi (4:16:14 PM): She knew she was a Spy
spies6levi (4:16:27 PM): Obviously something called "A Lotta Power" would have been beneficial to them
spies6Kirsten (4:16:33 PM): right
spies6levi (4:16:49 PM): That would suggest that one of Rey/Ariel is a Spy
spies6levi (4:16:56 PM): Fast Forward to Exile #1
spies6levi (4:17:06 PM): Ariel has the power
spies6levi (4:17:11 PM): At least one Spy is on the chopping block
spies6levi (4:17:15 PM): She does not save them
spies6levi (4:17:27 PM): Now if Roxy is a Spy (very doubtful), that point is null
spies6levi (4:17:32 PM): But this suggests that Rey is a Spy
spies6Kirsten (4:17:49 PM): but Rey was a driving force behind getting Alma there in the first place
spies6levi (4:17:55 PM): gah
spies6levi (4:18:03 PM): Why do you have to crush my hopes and dreams?
spies6Kirsten (4:18:09 PM): that's how I roll
spies6levi (4:18:14 PM): I thoguht I was on to something
spies6levi (4:18:17 PM): :-(
spies6Kirsten (4:18:18 PM): actually, you might be
spies6Kirsten (4:18:25 PM): but I'm more of the opinion that Ariel could be a spy
spies6levi (4:18:38 PM): It could go either way
spies6levi (4:18:53 PM): I would not be altogether surprised if it was Ariel
spies6levi (4:19:24 PM): After all, if the case on Alma was fairly obvious
spies6levi (4:19:30 PM): Was it?
spies6levi (4:19:59 PM): Sorry, brb
spies6levi (4:20:04 PM): Running to get dinner
spies6levi went away at 4:20:08 PM
spies6levi returned at 4:48:07 PM
spies6levi (4:48:09 PM): back
spies6Kirsten (4:48:22 PM): welcome back my suspicious friend
spies6levi (4:50:59 PM): Done any more thinking abotu the Rey/Ariel diea?
spies6Kirsten (4:52:02 PM): nope
spies6Kirsten (4:52:09 PM): but I could see either as a spy, Ariel moreso
spies6levi (4:52:39 PM): Done any more thinking about . . . anything?
spies6Kirsten (4:53:49 PM): yeah, I've thought more about Iris
spies6Kirsten (4:53:54 PM): and how there is no way she is a citizen
spies6Kirsten (4:54:14 PM): Levi
spies6levi (4:54:18 PM): yes?
spies6Kirsten (4:54:21 PM): she lied about the confessional thing
spies6Kirsten (4:54:25 PM): and then said she had to lie about her role
spies6Kirsten (4:54:38 PM): and then she proceeded to tell the truth about what that part of her role actually was
spies6Kirsten (4:54:47 PM): if she had to lie about her role, then she couldn't have told the truth later
spies6levi (4:55:05 PM): Thank you
spies6levi (4:55:12 PM): You just removed my 10% of doubt
spies6Kirsten (4:55:15 PM): hahaha
spies6levi (4:55:41 PM): There's still oen thing that bothers me
spies6Kirsten (4:55:42 PM): I have about 5% doubt
spies6Kirsten (4:55:56 PM): and taht doubt is entirely based around my suspicions of Ariel, and Ariel's stance on Iris
spies6Kirsten (4:56:38 PM): what is the thing that bothers you?
spies6levi (4:57:12 PM): The imprisonments have not made sense
spies6levi (4:57:14 PM): FOr the most part
spies6levi (4:57:19 PM): Take a look at the banner
spies6levi (4:57:31 PM): Start with Robert's picture
spies6levi (4:57:36 PM): He was first imprisoned
spies6levi (4:57:37 PM): Move over two
spies6levi (4:57:42 PM): You hit Mei, victim 2
spies6levi (4:57:44 PM): move over two
spies6levi (4:57:48 PM): you hit gaby
spies6levi (4:57:51 PM): move over two
spies6levi (4:57:54 PM): you hit amelia
spies6levi (4:58:04 PM): She was apparently "immune"
spies6levi (4:58:06 PM): move over two
spies6levi (4:58:07 PM): you hit Ed
spies6Kirsten (4:58:10 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:58:17 PM): that's a funny pattern
spies6Kirsten (4:58:23 PM): not sure how meaningful it is
spies6levi (4:58:29 PM): Same here
spies6Kirsten (4:58:41 PM): Amelia hasn't used her immunity yet, though, apparently
spies6levi (4:58:48 PM): Nope
spies6levi (4:58:52 PM): That comment does not mean anything
spies6levi (4:58:56 PM): All she said was
spies6Kirsten (4:58:57 PM): and if Amelia is a cit and the spies want to imprison her, I would encourage them to do so
spies6levi (4:59:11 PM): "I have not felt any danger at Imprisonment"
spies6levi (4:59:14 PM): If she used her immunity
spies6levi (4:59:19 PM): She obviously would not feel any danger
spies6Kirsten (4:59:21 PM): she would still not feel danger
spies6Kirsten (4:59:21 PM): right
spies6levi (4:59:53 PM): If there was some good reasoning behind Mei and Ed being imprisoned
spies6levi (5:00:02 PM): I wouldn't even concern myself with this idea
spies6levi (5:00:07 PM): But I can't figure out why them
spies6levi (5:00:13 PM): Unless the Spies really do hate me
spies6Kirsten (5:00:34 PM): Did Mei claim a role to you?
spies6levi (5:00:37 PM): No
spies6levi (5:00:50 PM): But the Spies don't hate me
spies6levi (5:00:55 PM): Cuz Iris is most likely a Spy
spies6levi (5:00:58 PM): And she likes me :-(
spies6Kirsten (5:01:00 PM): if you are a citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:01:06 PM): then the spies like you...as a misexile possibilty
spies6Kirsten (5:01:11 PM): :-)
spies6levi (5:01:27 PM): I know this is WIFOM here, but I would say I'm pretty clear right now
spies6levi (5:01:31 PM): Not 100%, but still
spies6levi (5:01:34 PM): First I was up against Donald
spies6levi (5:01:43 PM): And then I post a case against Ed and he got Imprisoned
spies6levi (5:01:50 PM): If I was a Spy, why on earth would I do that?
spies6Kirsten (5:02:41 PM): so you can point out exactly this after the fact
spies6Kirsten (5:02:51 PM): regardless, I don't think you're a spy right now
spies6levi (5:02:53 PM): Stupid WIFOM
spies6levi (5:02:55 PM): ANd yay!
spies6levi (5:03:05 PM): Sorry, that was internal thought processes bleeding through into conversation
spies6levi (5:03:07 PM): It happens
spies6Kirsten (5:06:00 PM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (5:06:06 PM): thor is a spy as well
spies6levi (5:17:13 PM): I don't suspect him that much
spies6levi (5:17:14 PM): How so?
spies6Kirsten (5:17:37 PM): if Iris is a spy, as I believe
spies6Kirsten (5:17:40 PM): his stance on Iris is suspicious
spies6Kirsten (5:17:47 PM): also, I don't like his attacks on me
spies6levi (5:18:51 PM): I think it's pretty safe to say that Iris is being Exiled this week, correct?
spies6Kirsten (5:18:58 PM): I would hope so
spies6Kirsten (5:19:03 PM): Rey seems to want to push elsewhere
spies6levi (5:19:07 PM): If people have some sense
spies6Kirsten (5:19:14 PM): I think she will be exiled.
spies6levi (5:19:16 PM): Part of the reason why I suspect Rey
spies6Kirsten (5:19:38 PM): I'm sitting on all the information for why she's lying right now. I want to see how it plays out, but I will dump that all if it looks like she really isn't going to be exiled
spies6levi (5:20:03 PM): goot strategy
spies6levi (5:22:29 PM): Well, I've just just experienced something that never ceases to amaze me
spies6Kirsten (5:23:51 PM): what is that?
spies6levi (5:24:13 PM):
spies6levi (7:16:36 PM): So, what's your stance on Iris?

spies6roxy2 (7:20:14 PM): she should talk to me

spies6roxy2 (7:20:18 PM): considering she never has

spies6levi (7:20:26 PM): That's all you have to say?

spies6levi (7:20:34 PM): Even after the role claim brouhaha?

spies6roxy2 (7:20:55 PM): im not going to base shit off of he said/ she said when the people saying it could very well be spies
spies6levi (5:24:25 PM):
spies6levi (7:21:15 PM): Ummmmmmm . . . it's not he said she said its a role claim

spies6roxy2 (7:21:40 PM): yes but iris says one thing and people are adding their ideas to the pot

spies6levi (7:21:55 PM): AKA discussion

spies6roxy2 (7:23:16 PM): whatever. she hasnt talked to me yet.

spies6levi (7:23:43 PM): And . . . so?

spies6levi (7:23:54 PM): How does that stop you from having an opinion on her role claim?
spies6Kirsten (7:40:11 PM): who do you suspect outside of Iris?
spies6levi (7:40:41 PM): Ariel/Rey
spies6levi (7:41:55 PM): And slightly Mirela
spies6Kirsten (7:42:13 PM): why on mirela
spies6levi (7:42:31 PM): Her "I don't know who to suspect besides Faith" comment
spies6levi (7:42:37 PM): It just irked me the wrong way
spies6levi (7:42:45 PM): And in the edit the topic title challenge
spies6levi (7:42:49 PM): She was slow
spies6levi (7:42:53 PM): And when I asked her about it
spies6levi (7:42:56 PM): She got defensive
spies6levi (7:43:02 PM): That's not the one where she disconnecte
spies6Kirsten (7:43:24 PM): that's the form a word?
spies6levi (7:43:39 PM): ummmm . . .. wtf?
spies6levi (7:43:47 PM): "That's the form a word?"
spies6Kirsten (7:43:53 PM): the one where you have to form a word?
spies6Kirsten (7:43:54 PM): sorry
spies6levi (7:43:58 PM): Oh yea
spies6levi (7:43:59 PM): Lol
spies6Kirsten (7:44:07 PM): I shortcuted, sorry :-)
spies6levi (7:44:13 PM): its ok
spies6levi (7:44:14 PM): it happens
spies6Kirsten (7:45:04 PM): so, let's say each initial team had at least 2 spies
spies6Kirsten (7:45:10 PM): who's the other spy on our team?
spies6Kirsten (7:45:18 PM): Donald, and?
spies6levi (7:46:33 PM): Good question
spies6levi (7:46:43 PM): I have no idea
spies6levi (8:02:43 PM): Is Rey online for you?
spies6levi (8:02:48 PM): Or did he block you?
spies6Kirsten (8:02:53 PM): he's online
spies6Kirsten (8:02:57 PM): but he did block me the other day
spies6levi (8:02:57 PM): Yup
spies6levi (8:03:00 PM): I just got blocked
spies6Kirsten (8:03:02 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (8:03:18 PM): did you even suggest the possibility that rey could even be loosely associated with spies?
spies6Kirsten (8:03:24 PM): he'll block ya for it
spies6levi (8:03:27 PM): yup
spies6levi (8:03:36 PM): I brought up the challenge point
spies6Kirsten (8:03:42 PM): and got blocked?
spies6levi (8:03:44 PM): He said something to the effect of
spies6levi (8:03:54 PM): "You just assumed something. You can't scumhunt."
spies6levi (8:03:59 PM): Got blocked
spies6Kirsten (8:04:09 PM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (8:04:14 PM): let me show you the chat we had last night
spies6Kirsten (8:04:17 PM): I found it hilarious
spies6Kirsten (8:04:25 PM): or were you in the room?
spies6Kirsten (8:04:27 PM): did you see it?
spies6levi (8:04:32 PM): I'm not sure
spies6levi (8:04:34 PM): I don't think I was
spies6Kirsten (8:05:34 PM): spies6Kirsten (8:40:07 PM):how regularly do you view spies? spies6rey (8:40:30 PM):hmm ? spies6rey (8:40:41 PM):so you think i'm a spy now? spies6rey (8:40:48 PM):you think i faked the faith reaction? spies6rey (8:40:54 PM):... spies6Kirsten (8:40:56 PM):what? spies6rey (8:41:03 PM):screw you. spies6Kirsten (8:41:04 PM):I'm not even accusing you of anything, ahhaha spies6rey (8:41:11 PM):you just said i view spies or whatever. spies6rey (8:41:15 PM):i don't even fucking know the spies. spies6Kirsten (8:41:19 PM):hahahahaha
spies6levi (8:05:49 PM): Rofl
spies6Kirsten (8:05:52 PM): and then he blocked me
spies6Kirsten (8:05:53 PM): haha
spies6levi (8:05:54 PM): That's hilarious
spies6levi (8:06:01 PM): Isn't it nice playing Spies with a 12 year old?
spies6Kirsten (8:06:16 PM): I don't know what's up with Rey
spies6Kirsten (8:06:30 PM): maybe he's a spy who's pissed, I don't know
spies6levi (8:06:47 PM): He's had a complete personality shift these past few days
spies6Kirsten (8:06:50 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (8:07:09 PM): he used to be nice and personable
spies6Kirsten (8:07:19 PM): now you open a chat window with him and he blocks you
spies6levi (8:07:23 PM): Yup
spies6levi (8:07:43 PM): It was wierd
spies6levi (8:07:50 PM): He got SOOOOOO defensive it wasn't even funny
spies6levi (8:07:55 PM): Let me get a snippet of chat
spies6levi (8:08:41 PM): spies6levi (9:57:21 PM): If "A Lotta Power" is up for grabs, I don't believe she would voluntarily leave
spies6rey (9:57:36 PM): did you ask someone for your copy of the chat?
spies6levi (9:57:38 PM): Without ensuring someone else for teh Spy cause was there trying to win it
spies6levi (9:57:42 PM): I do not have a copy of the chat
spies6rey (9:57:42 PM): do you actually do research?
spies6rey (9:57:48 PM): did you actually see why she had to leave?
spies6rey (9:57:51 PM): then gtfo .
spies6levi (9:57:55 PM): If you happen to have one, I'd like to see it
spies6rey (9:58:03 PM): no, go ask someone else.
spies6rey (9:58:09 PM): you assumed something before even doing the research.
spies6Kirsten (8:09:20 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (8:09:27 PM): how many times has rey assumed stuff without researching?
spies6Kirsten (8:09:35 PM): Everyone does that
spies6levi (8:09:45 PM): That's how you scumhunt, basically
spies6levi (8:09:49 PM): You post your opinions
spies6levi (8:10:01 PM): Get either proven wrong, agreed with, yelled at, or some combination of the three
spies6levi (8:10:07 PM): rinse, lather, vote, repeat
spies6levi (8:11:06 PM): Well, I'm off of here for tonight
spies6levi (8:11:06 PM): cya

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (1:40:10 AM): I think I'm going to go back through the burg
spies6Kirsten (1:40:14 AM): look through old Iris posts
spies6Kirsten (1:40:20 AM): and see how her claim matches what's she's said
spies6khaled (5:52:09 AM): If you found anything, holler
spies6Kirsten (5:52:24 AM): I haven't looked
spies6Kirsten (5:52:29 AM): laziness set in
spies6khaled (5:52:34 AM): hah
spies6khaled (5:52:43 AM): did you sleep somewhere in there?
spies6Kirsten (5:53:27 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (5:53:35 AM): like 4 hours maybe
spies6Kirsten (5:54:21 AM): I'll probably sleep again soon. I don't have to work until wednesday, so...pretty much not doing anything
spies6khaled (5:54:33 AM): jealous
spies6khaled (5:54:46 AM): i'm waiting 5-10 min for the rush hour traffic to die down
spies6Kirsten (5:55:20 AM): then off to have a blast?
spies6khaled (5:55:53 AM): huge one
spies6khaled (5:56:44 AM): sit in an office and ponder exactly how my degree is at all necessary to do my job
spies6Kirsten (5:57:09 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:57:24 AM): sadly, that seems all too true for a lot of stuff
spies6Kirsten (5:58:20 AM): I think the most important skill I learned from college thus far is how to learn necessary things by googling it
spies6khaled (5:58:47 AM): I knew that coming into college =\
spies6Kirsten (5:59:04 AM): yeah, me too...I'm just trying to justify the 4 years :-)
spies6Kirsten (5:59:45 AM): obviously, that's not entirely true, but still
spies6khaled (6:01:01 AM): it's close enough
spies6khaled (6:03:15 AM): and off i go to the rat races
spies6khaled (6:03:21 AM): see ya
spies6Kirsten (6:03:25 AM): alright. Don't have too much fun without me
spies6Kirsten (6:03:30 AM): bye

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (5:24:14 PM): khaled my brat grilling sam adams drinking friend? What's up?
spies6khaled (5:24:27 PM): Not a whole lot
spies6khaled (5:24:40 PM): Line-by-line going through the Reyterrogation
spies6Kirsten (5:25:10 PM): Reyterrogation of Iris?
spies6Kirsten (5:25:15 PM): or his bashing of Thor?
spies6khaled (5:25:32 PM): No, his 30-question list directed at me
spies6Kirsten (5:25:49 PM): oh right
spies6Kirsten (5:25:50 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:25:52 PM): I forgot about that
spies6khaled (5:27:44 PM): Hm.
spies6khaled (5:27:45 PM): spies6rey (4:46:27 PM): why did you force an exile on faith at the end?
spies6khaled (5:27:53 PM): "I need to get my jollies somewhere."
spies6Kirsten (5:28:03 PM): haha
spies6khaled (5:28:07 PM): Good answer?
spies6Kirsten (5:28:17 PM): it's at least an acceptable answer
spies6Kirsten (5:28:18 PM): :-)
spies6khaled (5:28:25 PM): Good.
spies6Kirsten (5:32:57 PM): I'm curious where you stand on iris, but I assume that gets answered in Rey's 13 page survey?
spies6khaled (5:33:43 PM): More or less
spies6khaled (5:34:24 PM): In few words, actually, but mostly because I'm taking the high ground and giving him shit in the midst of my answers.
spies6Kirsten (5:35:42 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:35:47 PM): the burg is a kind and loving environment
spies6Kirsten (5:35:53 PM): a utopia
spies6khaled (5:37:12 PM): Oh, of course
spies6khaled (5:50:05 PM): and, posted.
spies6Kirsten (5:50:38 PM): alright
spies6Kirsten (5:50:40 PM): will check it out
spies6Kirsten (6:04:32 PM): Bill O'Reilly and Rey are both prone to doing it live
spies6Kirsten (6:05:34 PM): I actually disagree, though. There is more than just strict logic to finding spies. When I play as scum, I win most of the time simply from maintaining good logic throughout the game.
spies6khaled (6:07:24 PM): You are right, of course.
spies6khaled (6:07:27 PM): But like I said...
spies6khaled (6:07:33 PM): When I play how I feel...I lose.
spies6Kirsten (6:07:46 PM): maybe you need to smoke a bowl
spies6Kirsten (6:07:49 PM): :-)
spies6khaled (6:07:52 PM): Hah
spies6Kirsten (6:07:54 PM): so
spies6Kirsten (6:07:58 PM): iris
spies6Kirsten (6:08:05 PM): you disbelieve her claim. Why?
spies6khaled (6:08:20 PM): Does that role not sound just unbelievably wacky?
spies6Kirsten (6:08:45 PM): yes, yes it does
spies6khaled (6:12:42 PM): Hence, I don't believe it =\
spies6khaled (6:12:48 PM): She -has- to lie?
spies6Kirsten (6:12:57 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (6:13:04 PM): yeaaaaah
spies6Kirsten (6:13:19 PM): or maybe she claimed something that was later proven to be untrue and now says she has to lie about it
spies6Kirsten (6:13:25 PM): funny how that works
spies6khaled (6:15:38 PM): yeah
spies6khaled went away at 6:23:39 PM
spies6khaled returned at 6:29:28 PM
spies6khaled went away at 6:39:31 PM
spies6khaled returned at 6:48:40 PM
spies6khaled (6:50:52 PM): Check the latest.
spies6Kirsten (6:51:30 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (6:51:53 PM): so, khaled
spies6Kirsten (6:51:56 PM): let's assume 2 spies
spies6Kirsten (6:51:59 PM): from your original team of 10
spies6Kirsten (6:52:03 PM): Iris is 1
spies6Kirsten (6:52:05 PM): who's the other?
spies6khaled (6:52:09 PM): Mirela or Thor
spies6khaled (6:52:27 PM): From voting, I'd guess Mirela, from activity, I'd say Thor.
spies6khaled (6:52:52 PM): But Thor took out Jaya and Donald, so I'd string up Mirela first.
spies6Kirsten (6:53:02 PM): well, Thor voted Faith 3 times in a row
spies6khaled (6:53:45 PM): Though she was a cit, she wasn't exactly pure in view.
spies6Kirsten (6:54:12 PM): haha
spies6khaled (7:03:15 PM): Either way, if it's not one, it's the other
spies6Kirsten (7:03:34 PM): definitely not Ariel?
spies6khaled (7:03:52 PM): I'd buy something against her the least
spies6Kirsten (7:04:05 PM): voting history
spies6Kirsten (7:04:07 PM): ?
spies6khaled (7:04:27 PM): Some of the things that she's been privy to, though, go against that. =\
spies6Kirsten (7:05:27 PM): what do you think about her vote on Faith, despite saying she wasn't happy with Faith as a suspect?
spies6khaled (7:06:21 PM): It needed to happen, since William needs to have his feet held to the fire.
spies6Kirsten (7:06:49 PM): she agreed with me that Faith was a bad exile
spies6Kirsten (7:06:53 PM): but voted Faith anyway
spies6Kirsten (7:07:06 PM): her other two possible vote choices were Boris or Amelia
spies6Kirsten (7:07:09 PM): why did she not vote them?
spies6khaled (7:07:33 PM): We needed to keep William around for at least one more episode
spies6khaled (7:07:40 PM): Grill him, etc.
spies6Kirsten (7:07:48 PM): so her vote was a preserve William vote?
spies6Kirsten (7:07:55 PM): did you ask her, or are you assuming as such?
spies6khaled (7:08:01 PM): It is
spies6khaled (7:08:36 PM): You found out about William from Tiberius, right?
spies6Kirsten (7:08:39 PM): right
spies6khaled (7:08:49 PM): He told Ariel and Tiberius first.
spies6Kirsten (7:09:00 PM): ok
spies6khaled (7:09:24 PM): So she also knew, and agreed that we needed to kepe him around
spies6khaled (7:09:27 PM): keep*
spies6khaled (8:28:03 PM): Know what's making me chuckle?
spies6Kirsten (8:28:19 PM): what is making you chuckle?
spies6khaled (8:28:40 PM): Rey. The whole Burg can't take him seriously.
spies6Kirsten (8:28:45 PM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (8:28:46 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (8:29:01 PM): were you around when he blocked me last night?
spies6Kirsten (8:29:12 PM): I keep showing everyone the chat, because I find it hilarious
spies6khaled (8:29:26 PM): I don't recall
spies6khaled (8:29:29 PM): but show me anyway
spies6Kirsten (8:29:50 PM): spies6Kirsten (8:40:07 PM):how regularly do you view spies? spies6rey (8:40:30 PM):hmm ? spies6rey (8:40:41 PM):so you think i'm a spy now? spies6rey (8:40:48 PM):you think i faked the faith reaction? spies6rey (8:40:54 PM):... spies6Kirsten (8:40:56 PM):what? spies6rey (8:41:03 PM):screw you. spies6Kirsten (8:41:04 PM):I'm not even accusing you of anything, ahhaha spies6rey (8:41:11 PM):you just said i view spies or whatever. spies6rey (8:41:15 PM):i don't even fucking know the spies. spies6Kirsten (8:41:19 PM):hahahahaha
spies6khaled (8:30:17 PM): hahahaha
spies6khaled (8:30:24 PM): block, i assume ends it?
spies6Kirsten (8:30:32 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (8:30:36 PM): followed by the block
spies6khaled (8:34:12 PM): oh lawdy.

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (5:21:37 PM): you're voting for Faith then?
spies6Kirsten (7:31:35 PM): pretty sure Iris is a spy
spies6jenya (7:32:46 PM): I was at a bar but tried to rally an Iris vote too late. :-(
spies6jenya (7:32:56 PM): You, me, who else voted for her?
spies6Kirsten (7:32:58 PM): Ellis
spies6Kirsten (7:33:02 PM): I did a lot of rallying
spies6Kirsten (7:33:04 PM): but she role claimed
spies6Kirsten (7:33:06 PM): with 10 minutes left
spies6jenya (7:33:07 PM): And I hear she claimed a role at the last minute?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:09 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (7:33:13 PM): What did she claim?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:18 PM): a gift giver
spies6jenya (7:33:22 PM): After being unhelpful all damned week .......
spies6Kirsten (7:33:25 PM): she gave 3 gifts to people
spies6Kirsten (7:33:34 PM): but apparently she had to give them all immediately as teh game began?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:40 PM): I don't know, I'm highly skeptical of the claim
spies6jenya (7:33:42 PM): Who did she give them to?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:44 PM): and two of the people are dead
spies6Kirsten (7:33:48 PM): donald/Callahan and a 3rd unnamed
spies6jenya (7:33:52 PM): Bullshit
spies6jenya (7:34:01 PM): Who bought that claim?
spies6jenya (7:34:14 PM): I know Jason was thinking of voting her but didn't.
spies6jenya (7:34:59 PM): Thank god my gut was right, I was starting to doubt it after Yvette.
spies6jenya (7:35:13 PM): But the Faith exile just felt wrong.
spies6Kirsten (7:36:47 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (7:36:49 PM): it was totally wrong
spies6Kirsten (7:37:01 PM): but I got blocked both other directions
spies6Kirsten (7:37:12 PM): William has some role information type stuff, and Iris claimed a role
spies6jenya (7:40:38 PM): William's role is spyish.
spies6Kirsten (7:40:54 PM): ok
spies6jenya (7:41:03 PM): But it's worth looking into.
spies6Kirsten (7:41:06 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (7:41:11 PM): I held off because I wanted to talk to him more
spies6Kirsten (7:41:17 PM): Iris, though, I think is a spy
spies6Kirsten (7:41:27 PM): there isn't much evidence against her (beyond her role claim now)
spies6Kirsten (7:41:33 PM): but I really just get that feeling
spies6Kirsten (7:41:46 PM): her claim that she would have voted Donald...her "confessional" post
spies6Kirsten (7:41:55 PM): I have a hard time buying it
spies6jenya (7:43:18 PM): She was so outraged about being imprisoned
spies6jenya (7:43:24 PM): And then joked around all week.. read her posts...
spies6Kirsten (7:43:26 PM): jailed you mean, but yeah
spies6jenya (7:43:31 PM): She has faked emotion like 10 times
spies6Kirsten (7:43:34 PM): yes
spies6jenya (7:43:36 PM): She cried at Yvette's exile
spies6Kirsten (7:43:37 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (7:44:01 PM): at least the Faith exile isn't all negative. Pretty positive Iris is a spy now. Also, 5 members left from that team and no spies caught yet
spies6Kirsten (7:44:20 PM): I'm actually leaning Thor as maybe another spy from that team, although I will have to think about it more
spies6jenya (7:44:34 PM): Thor is clever but has a good voting record and analysis
spies6Kirsten (7:44:42 PM): Faith being a citizen
spies6Kirsten (7:44:46 PM): his voting record is much worse now
spies6jenya (7:58:40 PM): Wow, lots of info from this round.
spies6Kirsten (7:58:45 PM): yep
spies6jenya (7:58:49 PM): I really wish I got to watch it all go down.
spies6Kirsten (7:58:52 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (7:58:57 PM): Iris was Irate
spies6Kirsten (7:59:01 PM): when she found out she was being wagoned
spies6jenya (7:59:02 PM): LOL whatever.
spies6Kirsten (7:59:06 PM): haha
spies6jenya (7:59:08 PM): Hi I'm Iris I skipped this week
spies6jenya (7:59:15 PM): I was sick but never said so
spies6Kirsten (7:59:16 PM): you're iris?
spies6Kirsten (7:59:20 PM): spies6jenya is being controlled by Iris?
spies6jenya (7:59:28 PM): Yes, it's another role
spies6Kirsten (7:59:30 PM): I should have never given you any information
spies6jenya (7:59:34 PM): Iris gave it to me.
spies6Kirsten (7:59:38 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (7:59:45 PM): Iris gave you the ability to be controlled by her
spies6Kirsten (7:59:48 PM): sounds like a win/win
spies6jenya (7:59:56 PM): Yeah, I'm not the Protector Puppeteer
spies6jenya (8:00:10 PM): That's not my role, I categorically deny it.
spies6Kirsten (8:00:55 PM): do you think there would be multiple roles capable of affecting imprisonment?
spies6Kirsten (8:01:03 PM): meaning, your role + her role, the gift to make someone immune?
spies6jenya (8:01:06 PM): If this was a one-off, sure.
spies6Kirsten (8:01:10 PM): ok
spies6jenya (8:01:18 PM): But I'm still heavily skeptical.
spies6jenya (8:01:24 PM): I want to see the chats with Iris so badly.
spies6Kirsten (8:01:32 PM): I'm going to say right now, there is no way she chooses someone to be immune from imprisonment before the game begins
spies6jenya (8:01:44 PM): Seriously, that would be the lamest role ever.
spies6Kirsten (8:01:47 PM): what a shitty rle
spies6Kirsten (8:01:48 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (8:01:51 PM): It might as well be done randomly.
spies6Kirsten (8:02:05 PM): she says she chose Donald because Sam wouldn't pick someone with that picture to be a spy
spies6jenya (8:02:08 PM): Did she say exactly when she got her role?
spies6Kirsten (8:02:22 PM): damn, that's an excellent point
spies6Kirsten (8:02:26 PM): didn't the roles not happen until later?
spies6Kirsten (8:02:41 PM): I didn't get my alignment until the following day
spies6jenya (8:02:45 PM): That's my trump card.
spies6Kirsten (8:02:50 PM): hot
spies6Kirsten (8:02:57 PM): I want to see where this goes though
spies6Kirsten (8:03:05 PM): Ariel is standing up for her hard...
spies6Kirsten (8:03:08 PM): not sure what to make of it
spies6jenya (8:03:20 PM): One of two things
spies6jenya (8:03:33 PM): I smell "Iris is innocent, Ariel wants to look good afterwards."
spies6jenya (8:03:55 PM): Offchance that they're spypartners.
spies6Kirsten (8:04:36 PM): so you think Iris is innocent but lied about her role?
spies6Kirsten (8:04:43 PM): the role isn't real.
spies6jenya (8:04:51 PM): That's just the feeling I get from smug Ariel
spies6Kirsten (8:04:53 PM): if so, I will eat my shoe in shame
spies6Kirsten (8:05:18 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (8:05:27 PM): well, Ariel if she is a spy, had no problem selling two other spies short
spies6Kirsten (8:05:34 PM): so I doubt they are spies together
spies6Kirsten (8:05:51 PM): Ariel doesn't strike me as the player to go out of her way to help her spy friends. She seems paranoid about suspicion directed toward her.
spies6jenya (8:05:52 PM): So Iris is innocent and Ariel is a spy milking this
spies6jenya (8:06:03 PM): How else could she defend Iris so stridently right now?
spies6Kirsten (8:06:03 PM): or, Iris is a spy, and Ariel is a wrong innocent
spies6Kirsten (8:06:08 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (8:06:11 PM): not sure
spies6Kirsten (8:57:50 PM): I think rey got it.
spies6jenya (8:58:19 PM): Want the roles released?
spies6jenya (8:58:24 PM): Or think that's anti-Cit?
spies6Kirsten (8:58:29 PM): I don't have a clue
spies6Kirsten (8:58:40 PM): do you think you should be asking me this? I mean I did fuck it up with Ed, right?
spies6jenya (8:59:10 PM): Your answer yields info, give me your analysis. :-)
spies6Kirsten (8:59:42 PM): I want to say yes, because I'm extremely curious
spies6Kirsten (8:59:45 PM): but I don't know if that's best
spies6Kirsten (8:59:51 PM): is there any role that becomes worse by being outed?
spies6jenya (9:00:12 PM): I doubt it, and the key is to weed out the spy roles from the cit roles
spies6Kirsten (9:01:14 PM): I'm guessing you've made up your mind already
spies6Kirsten (9:01:52 PM): I would say that if it's not going to prevent any of these roles from succesfully carrying out their purpose, then go for it.
spies6jenya (9:03:15 PM): Iris smells like rotten cheese, as does William right now.
spies6jenya (9:03:18 PM): No powerups?
spies6Kirsten (9:03:39 PM): well, I don't really know William's role. Other than having random information about it leaked to me
spies6jenya (9:04:23 PM): Hypothetical: there are 5-6 claimed roles floating about
spies6jenya (9:04:33 PM): How do you proceed?
spies6Kirsten (9:04:44 PM): lynch them all and hope at least 1 is a spy
spies6Kirsten (9:04:59 PM): start with you, work our way down?
spies6Kirsten (9:05:32 PM): I think if I had the information of 6 roles, I would probably try to discern which are spy roles and work on getting those people exiled.
spies6jenya (9:05:41 PM): Kirsten, I like your style, but you're not being helpful!
spies6jenya (9:05:49 PM): Ok, that's better, LOL.
spies6jenya (9:06:04 PM): Should we start assembling a list of nightly role actions?
spies6Kirsten (9:07:01 PM): what would that accomplish?
spies6jenya (9:07:16 PM): To nail people's actions to the wall.
spies6jenya (9:07:21 PM): So they have no wiggle room.
spies6Kirsten (9:07:41 PM): when you say role actions, do you mean what people have done with their roles so far?
spies6Kirsten (9:07:48 PM): or, what actions can be done every night?
spies6jenya (9:07:55 PM): All sorts of stuff.
spies6Kirsten (9:08:21 PM): because, one good way to test the strength of a role claim is to put yourself in that player's shoes and see if their claimed actions make sense
spies6Kirsten (9:08:31 PM): I've caught so many scum from them claiming roles that don't fit their play over the game
spies6Kirsten (9:09:18 PM): so basically the question you're asking now is, massclaim or no?
spies6jenya (9:12:33 PM): Not really, I'd hold back the names of the roleholders.
spies6jenya (9:12:42 PM): I have about 5-6.
spies6Kirsten (9:12:52 PM): about 5 to 6?
spies6Kirsten (9:12:55 PM): you mean you don't actually know?
spies6jenya (9:13:02 PM): Ambiguity = power. :-)
spies6Kirsten (9:13:22 PM): well, I have knowledge of somewhere between 0 and 10 roles, should I out them?
spies6jenya (9:14:11 PM): LOL
spies6jenya (9:14:26 PM): If you want, you can release all 5-6.
spies6jenya (9:14:28 PM): 5.5
spies6Kirsten (9:16:03 PM): I'll release half a role
spies6jenya (9:16:42 PM): You are Levi's better half.
spies6jenya (9:16:50 PM): You manage to not get exiled when it really counts.
spies6Kirsten (9:17:26 PM): I didn't realize me and Levi were a couple
spies6Kirsten (9:17:33 PM): I'll have to harrass him more, I guess
spies6Kirsten (9:18:00 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (9:18:03 PM): here's the deal
spies6Kirsten (9:18:07 PM): Iris is lying almost definitely
spies6Kirsten (9:18:19 PM): is it necessary to out other roles at this point?
spies6Kirsten (9:18:24 PM): what do we gain by doing it now?
spies6jenya (9:19:50 PM): Do you believe Iris?
spies6jenya (9:19:54 PM): At all? Remotely.
spies6Kirsten (9:20:02 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (9:20:20 PM): 5% chance she's telling the truth
spies6Kirsten (9:20:21 PM): if that
spies6Kirsten (9:20:38 PM): Her actions regarding Callahan don't make sense if she gave him a power
spies6Kirsten (9:20:51 PM): she claims she had to give out gifts before the game, but she couldn't have had her role at that point
spies6Kirsten (9:21:08 PM): she chose Donald for a gift because his picture was one that she didn't think Sam would pick for a spy
spies6Kirsten (9:21:35 PM): and I don't think a role that gives out imprisonment immunity would have to do so prior to the game starting
spies6jenya (9:21:43 PM): spies6iris (8:41:13 PM): I had to give the gifts out immediately upon receipt of my role.
spies6Kirsten (9:21:52 PM): ok
spies6jenya (9:21:54 PM): spies6iris (8:40:41 PM): I got my role day one after the first official group chat. I believe I was the very first to get my role. The recipients were allowed to use the gifts when they so desired.
spies6jenya (9:22:11 PM): Who has the quote where she gave them out before alignments?
spies6Kirsten (9:22:17 PM): let me check
spies6Kirsten (9:22:26 PM): I could be misinterpreting it
spies6Kirsten (9:22:34 PM): but I'm pretty sure she said something to that extent
spies6Kirsten (9:29:37 PM): ok, I just sent you the portion of the chat where the role claim happened
spies6Kirsten (9:30:07 PM): so she didn't give them out before alignments, but apparently she did before getting to know anyone
spies6Kirsten (9:30:35 PM): Callahan, Donald and one living player
spies6Kirsten (9:30:49 PM): Roleblock, Immunity from imprisonment, and one unclaimed thing
spies6Kirsten (9:31:12 PM): were you around pregame? Was Iris around pregame?
spies6jenya (9:31:26 PM): I signed on 5 minutes before the opening group chat.
spies6Kirsten (9:31:47 PM): was callahan on?
spies6Kirsten (9:31:56 PM): why would she choose Callahan/Donald/X?
spies6jenya (9:32:30 PM): How would Iris know if the roleblock had been used?
spies6jenya (9:32:57 PM): spies6Ariel (6:49:48 PM): Iris, has the roleblock been used?
spies6iris (6:50:09 PM): Ariel, yes, I believe so.
spies6jenya (9:33:33 PM): She also seemed to know that the Immunity from Impris had been used.. how on earth would she know that?
spies6Kirsten (9:33:45 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:33:58 PM): from that, we can infer the roleblock/Imprisonment were given to Callahan/Donald
spies6Kirsten (9:34:12 PM): if she claims otherwise, she's obviously lying
spies6jenya (9:34:12 PM): No, I didn't tell anyone that I sent them a gift.
spies6jenya (9:34:21 PM): What was the third gift?
spies6Kirsten (9:34:26 PM): she didn't claim it
spies6jenya (9:34:34 PM): And only Levi and Ariel know? LOL
spies6Kirsten (9:34:36 PM): and it's apparently been given to a player who can confirm it
spies6Kirsten (9:34:45 PM): but who is not around
spies6jenya (9:35:06 PM): If it's Gretchen or Oswald and they idle til Imprisonment, I'm laughing.
spies6jenya (9:35:14 PM): Especially if they get imprisoned.
spies6Kirsten (9:35:30 PM): if they get imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (9:35:40 PM): the implication is either Levi/Ariel is a spy or Iris
spies6Kirsten (9:36:14 PM): I'm trying to think of everyone who was not there
spies6jenya (9:45:07 PM): Crazy shit going down.
spies6Kirsten (9:45:19 PM): oh?
spies6Kirsten (9:45:21 PM): am I missing something?
spies6jenya (9:45:25 PM): I think I caught people in a lie. Who did you hear about William's role from?
spies6Kirsten (9:46:16 PM): Tiberius slipped it to me
spies6Kirsten (9:46:29 PM): Tiberius slipped knowledge
spies6Kirsten (9:46:39 PM): William sent me a PM when I asked him if it was a reason I should not vote for him
spies6Kirsten (9:46:46 PM): his PM didn't say he had a role, just some role information
spies6Kirsten (9:46:54 PM): which I guess I could connect the dots
spies6jenya (9:48:14 PM): Did Tibby mention a powerup for William?
spies6Kirsten (9:48:39 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (9:48:42 PM): he didn't mention any details
spies6jenya signed off at 9:49:10 PM
spies6jenya signed on at 9:49:15 PM
spies6Kirsten (9:54:16 PM): what is this lie you believe you have caught people in?
spies6jenya (9:54:38 PM): A lie about whether or not William got a powerup
spies6jenya (9:54:41 PM): And who was told when
spies6jenya (9:54:56 PM): It could be an honest mistake, but it's pretty glaring.
spies6Kirsten (9:56:06 PM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (9:56:17 PM): that sounds like the kind of mistake that could be honest
spies6Kirsten (9:56:27 PM): i.e. the kind of mistake that is unnecessary to lie about
spies6jenya (9:57:14 PM): One person claimed to know William had a powerup at 3pm
spies6jenya (9:57:26 PM): The other claimed not to know at 9pm
spies6jenya (9:57:40 PM): Then the first one told me he told the 2nd one at 3:15pm
spies6Kirsten (9:57:57 PM): so the 2nd one is lying or forgot
spies6Kirsten (9:58:07 PM): doesn't seem that damning to me, but I don't know the details
spies6Kirsten (9:58:17 PM): what motivation would the 2nd one have to lie about that?
spies6Kirsten (9:59:12 PM): I want to lynch someone from Yvette's team every exile until we hit a spy
spies6Kirsten (9:59:19 PM): and then go back and clean up with Wiliam
spies6jenya (9:59:34 PM): LOL seriously
spies6Kirsten (10:00:05 PM): what made you vote Iris?
spies6Kirsten (10:00:13 PM): as opposed to Wiliam or Georgia, or anyone else?
spies6jenya (10:01:17 PM): I think I messaged you
spies6jenya (10:01:27 PM): Faith and William felt wrong.. there was no conflict all day.
spies6jenya (10:01:38 PM): The spies seemed satisfied, didn't they?
spies6Kirsten (10:01:44 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (10:02:01 PM): things seemed "unsatisfied" when the push on Iris happened
spies6jenya (10:02:38 PM): You mean, suddenly there was resistance?
spies6Kirsten (10:02:55 PM): ugh, I'll have to review the chat
spies6Kirsten (10:03:04 PM): but nobody really wanted to hop aboard the Iris train
spies6Kirsten (10:03:13 PM): even Khaled seemed hesitatnt
spies6Kirsten (10:03:19 PM): and Iris has been his baby for a while
spies6Kirsten (10:03:52 PM): Iris was going to get self votes for not taking part in the challenge, but she appeared last second
spies6Kirsten (10:03:59 PM): that was going to be the extra votes needed to get her exiled
spies6jenya (10:04:54 PM): Ugh.
spies6jenya (10:05:04 PM): And now she has a role with no cit powerup.
spies6Kirsten (10:05:59 PM): and apparently I'm wrong or rey is lying and he didn't win the investigation
spies6Kirsten (10:06:14 PM): which means 4 votes were not enough
spies6Kirsten (10:06:30 PM): or one of the 4 is lying, or whatever
spies6jenya (10:07:33 PM): You just asked Rey?
spies6Kirsten (10:07:59 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (10:10:59 PM): I thought rey had gotten it, because I chatted with him, he suggested that Iris might have been a spy who jailed herself
spies6Kirsten (10:11:12 PM): logged off for 15 minutes, then came back and said he no longer thought that was true
spies6jenya (10:12:26 PM): Wild.
spies6Kirsten (10:12:56 PM): he also made the comment that "we should try to aim our role investigation at a likely spy candidate who is the jailer"
spies6Kirsten (10:13:02 PM): right before he logged off
spies6jenya (10:14:43 PM): Hmm.
spies6Kirsten (10:15:24 PM): I thought he was just being careless with his information, as is normally the case
spies6Kirsten (10:19:55 PM): be back in a bit
spies6jenya (10:20:07 PM): ok
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Monday, June 15, 2009
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spies6Kirsten (12:54:12 AM): back if you're still around
spies6jenya (12:54:19 AM): Hey.
spies6jenya (12:54:48 AM): I'm going to shut up about this Iris situation and see how people play it.
spies6jenya (12:54:57 AM): Ariel's response creeps the hell out of me.
spies6Kirsten (12:55:36 AM): why?
spies6Kirsten (12:56:00 AM): ugh
spies6Kirsten (12:56:23 AM): Mirela. She says some suspicious things
spies6jenya (12:56:28 AM): What now?
spies6Kirsten (12:57:00 AM): like her saying she thought Iris was a spy. And then when I pointed out that Iris claimed with 10 minutes to go, her reaction was "Why would Iris tell the spies she has a role"
spies6jenya (12:57:20 AM): LOL, terrible english if she's a cit.
spies6Kirsten (12:58:00 AM): Mirela pretty much says what comes to mind, but sometimes it's pretty scummy.
spies6jenya (12:58:53 AM): Hopefully she won't get run up this next episode. I really doubt she's a spy.
spies6jenya (12:59:09 AM): Never know though.
spies6Kirsten (12:59:11 AM): I waffle pretty hard on her.
spies6Kirsten (12:59:22 AM): it's like she's too obvoius to be a spy
spies6jenya (12:59:27 AM): Rey was a trainwreck tonight.
spies6Kirsten (12:59:28 AM): but I will slap myslef if she is
spies6Kirsten (12:59:31 AM): yeah, he was
spies6jenya (12:59:59 AM): Wow, I can't believe we only got 3 Iris votes.
spies6jenya (1:00:09 AM): I guess people jumped on her and then back off her?
spies6Kirsten (1:00:42 AM): I'm not sure if anyone even jumped on her
spies6Kirsten (1:00:44 AM): maybe Khaled did
spies6Kirsten (1:00:49 AM): and jumped back off
spies6Kirsten (1:01:38 AM): khaled was adamant that nobody votes for William
spies6jenya (1:01:47 AM): What do you know about William?
spies6Kirsten (1:01:56 AM): regarding role like stuff?
spies6jenya (1:02:18 AM): Yeah whatever. I think it's been leaked around pretty good.
spies6Kirsten (1:02:48 AM): something about a role investigation
spies6jenya (1:03:01 AM): That's what I heard.
spies6Kirsten (1:03:08 AM): with weird results
spies6jenya (1:03:20 AM): And supposedly he got a powerup for the Cits winning.
spies6jenya (1:03:39 AM): So yeah, it made sense to hold off on him today.
spies6jenya (1:03:53 AM): I dunno, I suppose it frames his behavior differently.
spies6Kirsten (1:04:14 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:04:17 AM): perhaps
spies6Kirsten (1:04:21 AM): I want to talk to him about it
spies6jenya (1:05:13 AM): I don't understand people who clear Ariel of suspicion.
spies6jenya (1:05:42 AM): I don't feel like she's done jack squat, I mean hell if you're a spy you've still done twice as much spyhunting as her. :-)
spies6Kirsten (1:05:58 AM): I've done far more than taht
spies6Kirsten (1:06:01 AM): I've like 20x
spies6jenya (1:06:03 AM): Totally.
spies6jenya (1:06:13 AM): Nite, I've gotta crash. Lots to talk about tomorrow.
spies6jenya (1:06:17 AM): Call in sick. :-)
spies6Kirsten (1:06:23 AM): haha

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (2:38:50 PM): I'm reading the Talking aobut Roles thread
spies6jenya (2:39:02 PM): Is your mind boggled?
spies6Kirsten (2:39:17 PM): I scrolled down a little bit to see what was coming up, and I see Iris saying she had to purposely lie
spies6Kirsten (2:39:22 PM): and I laughed
spies6jenya (2:39:26 PM): Seriously.
spies6Kirsten (2:39:33 PM): Noose please
spies6jenya (2:39:39 PM): And what bothers me the most is that Ariel and Rey buy it.
spies6Kirsten (2:39:43 PM): they do?
spies6Kirsten (2:39:45 PM): haha
spies6jenya (2:39:50 PM): Or are at least not harsh on Iris about it.
spies6jenya (2:40:02 PM): Rey wants Amelia, William or Mirela exiled next.
spies6Kirsten (2:40:06 PM): Iris:
spies6Kirsten (2:40:13 PM): Lurked all episode and claimed she was sick
spies6Kirsten (2:40:18 PM): we chatted, she didn't mention illness to me
spies6Kirsten (2:40:43 PM): Was invisible on aim for god knows how long until someone finally contacted her and got her into the spies6 chat
spies6Kirsten (2:41:01 PM): says she would have voted Donald in her "confessional" post
spies6Kirsten (2:41:10 PM): despite the fact that previously she had been pressuring Georgia that episode
spies6Kirsten (2:41:28 PM): and despite the fact taht she states a complete aversion to voting anyone who is away, and Donald was away
spies6Kirsten (2:41:37 PM): I mean, this is simply beyond even the role claim
spies6jenya (2:42:22 PM): Seriously.
spies6jenya (2:42:36 PM): And I just want to sit back at this point and see who pushes her exile and who doesn't.
spies6jenya (2:42:59 PM): It might be best if you do the same, it's obvious you have the logic, no need to prove it.
spies6Kirsten (2:43:08 PM): yeah, ok
spies6Kirsten (2:43:26 PM): you might not realize how hard it is for me to not just annihilate iris
spies6jenya (2:43:41 PM): Same here.
spies6jenya (2:43:55 PM): But I think we'll catch more spies by watching reactions.
spies6jenya (2:44:14 PM): We can always step in and light her up if things get stupid.
spies6Kirsten (2:44:24 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:44:34 PM): I want to see how Khaled plays it
spies6jenya (2:44:37 PM): I mean, if I had to bet my life on a claim being fake
spies6jenya (2:44:41 PM): This would be the one.
spies6Kirsten (2:44:45 PM): haahaha, yes
spies6jenya (2:44:50 PM): Yeah, Khaled pushed Faith HARD over Iris at the end.
spies6Kirsten (2:44:57 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:44:59 PM): OK
spies6Kirsten (2:45:07 PM): the two most suspicious people were khaled and Ariel
spies6Kirsten (2:45:14 PM): in regards to Iris, when I was pushing her in chat yesterday
spies6jenya (2:45:19 PM): Yeah..
spies6jenya (2:45:26 PM): They seemed to be coaching her, lol
spies6Kirsten (2:45:40 PM): Khaled, despite saying over and over again how Iris was a higher priority suspect for him did NOT seem interested in exiling Iris
spies6jenya (2:45:49 PM): I really want to know who alerted Iris to the danger.
spies6Kirsten (2:45:52 PM): same
spies6Kirsten (2:46:11 PM): I will say that I was kind of pissed that she showed up and didn't get self-votes
spies6jenya (2:46:12 PM): I mean, I placed my vote and went to dinner. I thought it'd end up being you, me and maybe Ellis?
spies6Kirsten (2:46:16 PM): that was my ticket to making her exile happen
spies6Kirsten (2:46:50 PM): Ariel was suspect because she said on numerous occasions that she didn't like any of the candidates Faith/William/Iris
spies6jenya (2:46:52 PM): Was she even under enough pressure to claim?
spies6Kirsten (2:46:55 PM): but she voted Faith
spies6Kirsten (2:47:06 PM): hmm...I don't know about that
spies6Kirsten (2:47:16 PM): I was actually out when she claimed, I went to grab a bite to eat
spies6Kirsten (2:47:32 PM): or when she decided to claim
spies6jenya (2:47:32 PM): Ariel's either playing fumb or isn't very bright.
spies6jenya (2:47:37 PM): *dumb
spies6Kirsten (2:47:40 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (2:47:56 PM): And I smell distancing between her and Rey.
spies6Kirsten (2:48:14 PM): maybe
spies6Kirsten (2:48:27 PM): If Ariel is a spy, she loves to bus
spies6jenya (2:48:33 PM): Looks like it.
spies6Kirsten (2:48:53 PM): do you buy her "wounded" act?
spies6jenya (2:48:57 PM): No.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:02 PM): the "I don't want to post because I'll get attacked"
spies6jenya (2:49:16 PM): It's not posting that keeps her alive til endgame.
spies6jenya (2:49:34 PM): She refused to take a hard stand on Faith Saturday.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:40 PM): What I actually gave Donald was the ability to switch a vote in an Exile where he was one of the top 3 candidates. That was the Yvette exile...he switched my vote and Yvette flipped Cit.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:44 PM): hahahahaha
spies6jenya (2:49:47 PM): Yeah.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:49 PM): OMG
spies6Kirsten (2:49:54 PM): this is just getting funnier
spies6jenya (2:49:58 PM): This gift I gave Donald
spies6jenya (2:50:03 PM): Is only confirmable by ME
spies6jenya (2:50:07 PM): Because he moved MY vote.
spies6Kirsten (2:50:11 PM): bullshit
spies6jenya (2:50:13 PM): Randomly.
spies6Kirsten (2:50:15 PM): she "cried" over that vote
spies6Kirsten (2:50:22 PM): hahahaha
spies6jenya (2:50:44 PM): Iris overdramatized the Yvette exile
spies6jenya (2:50:50 PM): "heartbroken, in tears"
spies6jenya (2:51:00 PM): Said she was going to quit mafia.
spies6Kirsten (2:51:03 PM): hahahaha
spies6jenya (2:51:08 PM): Then was jailed.
spies6Kirsten (2:51:10 PM): oh Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:51:16 PM): at least she has brought entertainment
spies6jenya (2:51:19 PM): Then faked a confessional.
spies6jenya (2:51:28 PM): Vowing to get the spies who jailed her.
spies6jenya (2:51:41 PM): Then the big laugh is check out her posts since she was jailed.
spies6Kirsten (2:52:07 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:52:10 PM): well, Jenya
spies6Kirsten (2:52:12 PM): she was sick
spies6Kirsten (2:52:15 PM): give her some slack
spies6jenya (2:52:17 PM): She's like goofing around and dweedling over the definition of "chainsawing"
spies6Kirsten (2:52:25 PM): I flip Cit, you all look at who gave me the hardest time about this.
spies6jenya (2:52:27 PM): Right, no wait it was her computer
spies6jenya (2:52:29 PM): Not Cit.
spies6jenya (2:52:35 PM): No sick
spies6Kirsten (2:52:46 PM): I love that bombshell
spies6Kirsten (2:53:05 PM): I love trying to keep people from attacking you via saying that anyone who does is a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:53:24 PM): requesting permission to decimate that therad
spies6jenya (2:53:40 PM): LOL
spies6jenya (2:53:49 PM): Isn't it tempting?
spies6Kirsten (2:53:55 PM): hahahaha
spies6jenya (2:54:07 PM): Honestly, it'd be more fun to bat her around.
spies6jenya (2:54:23 PM): And it appears we're ahead.. need three exiles of spies after her in 8 tries.
spies6Kirsten (2:55:13 PM): I'd like to use this episode to get a better read on my old friend William
spies6jenya (2:55:27 PM): Grill him about his role.
spies6jenya (2:56:22 PM): Can you remind me how much you know about it? I think we covered this last night.
spies6Kirsten (2:56:36 PM): just that it's related to role investigating
spies6Kirsten (2:56:48 PM): and he didn't even explicitly say he had a role, just that he had "information"
spies6jenya (2:56:50 PM): I think he should claim it fully.
spies6jenya (2:57:03 PM): Enough people know about it that if he's a Cit, a spy must know already.
spies6jenya (2:57:46 PM): I think it's probably a role, though I suppose you're right he COULD have won the cit role inv
spies6jenya (2:57:55 PM): Not bloody likely though.
spies6Kirsten (2:58:02 PM): no, William didn't win the role investigation
spies6jenya (2:58:10 PM): You asked him?
spies6Kirsten (2:58:16 PM): no, but based on common sense
spies6Kirsten (2:58:25 PM): what citizen would have voted for him?
spies6jenya (2:58:50 PM): Right, no way.
spies6Kirsten (2:59:07 PM): the only way he could have won it is if the spies tried to give it to him, and in that case one of my group of 4 who "gave" it to rey is lying
spies6jenya (2:59:17 PM): Maybe we should count the votes publicly?
spies6jenya (2:59:23 PM): Nah, could be dangerous.
spies6Kirsten (2:59:23 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:59:40 PM): I think Rey might be lying about not getting it
spies6Kirsten (3:05:00 PM): I'm thinking Thor might be a spy
spies6jenya (3:05:31 PM): The odds say one of Ariel, Thor, Mirela, Khaled
spies6Kirsten (3:05:46 PM): Thor and Ariel are not spies together, though, or else they faked the chat that led to Jaya being exiled
spies6Kirsten (3:05:52 PM): and I doubt that
spies6Kirsten (3:06:40 PM): the problem is, I have a very tough time distinguishing who is the scummiest from that group of 4
spies6jenya (3:07:21 PM): Well, you'd think they'd have the best perspective.
spies6jenya (3:07:34 PM): They appear to have no clue.
spies6Kirsten (3:07:46 PM): iris - leaning spy. up until recently i've seen her as a mysterious individual who tends to be helpful, and i was fairly certain of her being a citizen as a result; however, her late roleclaim which seemed to serve only to save herself from exile is extremely flawed.
spies6Kirsten (3:08:01 PM): thor's stance on Iris
spies6Kirsten (3:08:29 PM): starting with "up until" and ending with "as a result" reads scummy to me
spies6jenya (3:09:11 PM): I have no clue about that cesspool
spies6jenya (3:09:16 PM): Khaled, wtf
spies6jenya (3:09:19 PM): Ariel, wtf
spies6jenya (3:09:31 PM): Thor, voted Faith three times
spies6jenya (3:09:35 PM): wtf
spies6Kirsten (3:09:39 PM): I would say Mirela is the one I most consider likely to be a cit, and I waffle on her a lot
spies6jenya (3:09:46 PM): Mirela, 5 self-votes, I think that's the easy one lol
spies6Kirsten (3:09:49 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (3:09:55 PM): Khaled/Ariel/Thor
spies6Kirsten (3:09:59 PM): Khaled strikes me as the most townie
spies6Kirsten (3:10:12 PM): but his stance on Faith/Iris was scummy
spies6Kirsten (3:10:25 PM): also
spies6Kirsten (3:10:29 PM): there could be 2 spies in that group of 4
spies6jenya (3:12:22 PM): It's possible.
spies6jenya (3:12:28 PM): Leaving only one left in your crew.
spies6Kirsten (3:13:44 PM): William, or if he's a cit, then one of Amelia/Georgia/Boris/Levi
spies6jenya (3:14:50 PM): Ick.
spies6Kirsten (3:15:20 PM): I guess you can't rule Gretchen out, but Donald did vote for her jolly self 3 times in a row
spies6jenya (3:15:24 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (3:15:36 PM): or, would have if he didn't vote Yvette to save himself
spies6jenya (3:16:01 PM): Khaled was way too forceful about saving Iris
spies6jenya (3:16:09 PM): From a useless roleclaim
spies6jenya (3:16:23 PM): Did any of them ask if her powers were used up already?
spies6jenya (3:16:27 PM): Or if she got a powerup?
spies6Kirsten (3:16:40 PM): I think someone asked if they had used their powers, and she said yes
spies6Kirsten (3:16:56 PM): it would be in teh chat segment I pmed you
spies6jenya (3:20:18 PM): Rey is avoiding answering questions.
spies6jenya (3:20:55 PM): And appears to be either walking the fence or defending Iris.
spies6Kirsten (3:21:02 PM): I'm still laughing about rey blocking me on AIM last night because I asked him if he "regularly views spies"
spies6jenya (3:21:07 PM): LOL
spies6jenya (3:21:10 PM): That was great.
spies6Kirsten (3:21:33 PM): I laughed so hard when he responded "do you think I faked the faith reaction" "Screw you"
spies6jenya (3:21:51 PM): What, the reaction where he hoped she was a Cit?
spies6Kirsten (3:22:01 PM): I'm guessing that's the one
spies6jenya (3:22:11 PM): PLEASE BE FAKING PLEASE BE FAKING
spies6jenya (3:22:16 PM): oh sweet you're a Cit.
spies6Kirsten (3:22:22 PM): haha
spies6jenya (3:22:26 PM): *shakes fist*
spies6Kirsten (3:22:30 PM): I think that makes Rey look more citizen, to be honest
spies6jenya (3:22:36 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (3:22:37 PM): is a spy going to say something like that?
spies6Kirsten (3:22:41 PM): they already know she's a cit
spies6jenya (3:22:45 PM): By accident maybe, lol
spies6Kirsten (3:23:01 PM): I read it as Rey hoping she was a cit so he would be vindicated
spies6jenya (3:23:19 PM): i mean, i got there late but i'm pretty sure I would have started celebrating when she said that
spies6Kirsten (3:23:28 PM): I was in that same place regarding Yvette, so I understand the mentality
spies6Kirsten (3:23:44 PM): I would have been happy if Yvette was a spy, but my ass would have been on the line next
spies6jenya (3:24:07 PM): Rey on Iris having to lie:
spies6jenya (3:24:09 PM): "I can see it being incorporated in a role, as Sam gets very creative with these things. "
spies6Kirsten (3:24:20 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (3:24:26 PM): has Rey played in previous spy games?
spies6Kirsten (3:24:33 PM): or is he making up knowledge of how Sam does stuff?
spies6Kirsten (3:25:02 PM): I mean, my opinion of Sam is he likes twists and creative roles, but he isn't stupid
spies6Kirsten (3:25:25 PM): I don't think he would create a role where you are forced to lie about how a spy invisibly changed your vote around and then you faked crying about it afterward
spies6Kirsten (3:25:28 PM): but maybe it's just me
spies6jenya (3:25:39 PM): I think Rey's definitely played before.
spies6jenya (3:25:49 PM): And yeah, the role is too involved.
spies6jenya (3:25:53 PM): And bizarre
spies6jenya (3:25:57 PM): And random
spies6Kirsten (3:26:03 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (3:26:11 PM): I'm thinking it's a cover for whatever spy role she has
spies6Kirsten (3:26:19 PM): if I didn't know better, it looks like Iris is just tacking on addendums to the role to fit flaws in her initial claim
spies6jenya (3:26:29 PM): She "gave" someone a roleblock that the spies actually used
spies6jenya (3:26:54 PM): Some spy gave Amelia immunity.
spies6Kirsten (3:26:57 PM): right
spies6jenya (3:26:59 PM): And where the eff is Amelia.
spies6Kirsten (3:27:06 PM): I agree
spies6Kirsten (3:27:16 PM): I would wager she has a role that bears some similarities
spies6Kirsten (3:27:33 PM): also, her claim doesn't add up
spies6Kirsten (3:27:49 PM): she mentioned that she gave an imprisonment immunity a roleblock, and something she didn't want to name
spies6jenya (3:28:00 PM): Yeah.
spies6Kirsten (3:28:03 PM): because she didn't want to out the 3rd person
spies6Kirsten (3:28:11 PM): but, now the 3rd person is the one with the imprisonment immunity
spies6jenya (3:28:14 PM): oh true
spies6jenya (3:28:18 PM): busted
spies6Kirsten (3:28:24 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (3:28:37 PM): donald supposedly got the "something i cant name"
spies6Kirsten (3:28:44 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (3:28:48 PM): which she then proceeded to name
spies6jenya (3:28:58 PM): Well this sucks, another 6 day break
spies6Kirsten (3:29:02 PM): haha
spies6jenya (3:29:15 PM): Maybe there's an assassin.
spies6jenya (3:29:21 PM): If you are that person, please strike now.
spies6Kirsten (3:29:37 PM): if I were that person, I would have striked at least twice so far
spies6Kirsten (3:29:42 PM): Levi, Donald, would be no more
spies6Kirsten (3:30:28 PM): I wish I was a vig
spies6jenya (3:30:58 PM): Levi still has done nothing protown really.
spies6Kirsten (3:31:03 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (3:31:15 PM): He just happens to be on the Spies' menu every exile.
spies6Kirsten (3:32:03 PM): Rey called out Thor for the same point I was going for earlier
spies6Kirsten (3:32:09 PM): that makes me feel better about Rey
spies6Kirsten (3:32:25 PM): despite the fact that I do not understand how he could possibly believe Iris
spies6Kirsten (3:45:03 PM): I'm going to take some time to catalogue every way Iris's claim doesn't make sense
spies6jenya (3:45:11 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (3:45:17 PM): I need to have something ready in case people are stupid
spies6jenya (3:45:19 PM): Better buy some more pens.
spies6Kirsten (3:57:17 PM): so Iris confirmed her role with Amelia
spies6Kirsten (3:57:26 PM): spy who can give out imprisonment immunity for confirmation sake?
spies6Kirsten (3:58:05 PM): if Iris is indeed a spy, then Amelia is probably not. I doubt they tie themselves together to confirm a sinking ship
spies6jenya (3:58:16 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (3:58:42 PM): In the last game, a spy won the ability to give out imprisonment immunity.
spies6Kirsten (3:58:49 PM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (3:58:57 PM): so this wouldn't be a new feature
spies6Kirsten (3:59:25 PM): Iris' role is simply not believable, confirmed or not
spies6jenya (4:00:36 PM): Right, it's possible but untenable.
spies6jenya (4:03:34 PM): Rey's lack of logical skills stuns me.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:57 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (4:45:47 PM): sorry
spies6Kirsten (4:45:52 PM): I will hold myself back from posting more
spies6jenya (4:45:53 PM): :-D
spies6Kirsten (4:45:54 PM): gah
spies6jenya (4:46:02 PM): No, go ahead, it's impossible to resist.
spies6Kirsten (4:46:14 PM): I'm starting to lean more to maybe Amelia being a spy
spies6jenya (4:46:22 PM): And the best part is that Rey has picked up the baton from Iris when she disappeared.
spies6Kirsten (4:46:25 PM): it seems illogical they would tie themselves together like that
spies6Kirsten (4:46:26 PM): but, eh
spies6jenya (4:46:32 PM): Oh god, no way would they do that.
spies6jenya (4:46:42 PM): That would be the dumbest spy move in history.
spies6Kirsten (4:46:50 PM): but that means the spies gave out imprisonment immunity to Amelia as the game began
spies6jenya (4:46:54 PM): Right.
spies6Kirsten (4:46:57 PM): which also doesn't seem to make sense
spies6Kirsten (4:47:10 PM): maybe Iris is telling the truth about having to give that stuff out immediately
spies6Kirsten (4:47:35 PM): otehrwise, as a spy, would you not sit on that and use it later in the game?
spies6Kirsten (4:47:47 PM): I would totally wait until like episode 4-5 and give it to someone like myself
spies6jenya (4:47:52 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (4:47:58 PM): Maybe she gets one gift a day?
spies6Kirsten (4:48:07 PM): maybe
spies6Kirsten (4:48:13 PM): maybe the episode 4 gift was jailing
spies6jenya (4:48:17 PM): She also said she used it before everyone
spies6jenya (4:48:27 PM): Before Cits had their roles...
spies6Kirsten (4:48:29 PM): right
spies6jenya (4:48:30 PM): I think
spies6jenya (4:48:38 PM): Before Cits had their identities?
spies6jenya (4:50:30 PM): I really don't like Rey's and Ariel's approach to Iris.
spies6jenya (4:50:52 PM): It makes me almost feel like Iris is somehow bizarrely a cit.
spies6Kirsten (4:51:29 PM): spies6iris (10:06:16 PM): The day the game started but I had to give them out right away.
I had to notify Sam when I got the PM and tell him immediately.
spies6Kirsten (4:51:43 PM): yeah, that bothers me too
spies6Kirsten (4:51:52 PM): Ariel was pretty smug about iris yesterday
spies6Kirsten (4:52:38 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (4:52:46 PM): she had to give out the roles right away, as the game started
spies6Kirsten (4:52:57 PM): what is she is absent for the first day? she loses her role?
spies6Kirsten (4:53:13 PM): also, only the spies knew their identities at that point
spies6Kirsten (4:53:35 PM): her having this role would mean she knew she was a citizen, despite nobody else knowing they were a citizen yet
spies6Kirsten (4:53:40 PM): doesn't make sense
spies6jenya (4:53:45 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (5:51:16 PM): rey, rey
spies6Kirsten (5:51:18 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:51:33 PM): I think I convinced him that Iris is lying. And then he says he wants to exile Amelia
spies6jenya (5:51:51 PM): wtf
spies6Kirsten (5:52:21 PM): my gut screams that he is a citizen, but man
spies6Kirsten (5:52:27 PM): I just don't understand
spies6jenya (5:52:47 PM): All available evidence says we were handed a spy.
spies6Kirsten (5:53:01 PM): in Rey?
spies6jenya (5:53:14 PM): In Iris.
spies6Kirsten (5:53:21 PM): ok, yes
spies6jenya (5:53:41 PM): I'm fascinated to see him run with this, considering much of the Burg SHOULD pursue Iris.
spies6Kirsten (5:54:17 PM): I bet the spies will take stance on Iris ala Thor
spies6Kirsten (5:54:33 PM): the "oops, i sucked and thought she was a citizen, but I now know that i was wrong"
spies6jenya (5:54:49 PM): That's Thor's stance right now?
spies6Kirsten (5:55:05 PM): well, paraphrased and spun a little bit :-)
spies6jenya (5:55:14 PM): Time to go back into Iris history.
spies6jenya (5:55:25 PM): And see what else she's done..
spies6Kirsten (5:55:32 PM): iris - leaning spy. up until recently i've seen her as a mysterious individual who tends to be helpful, and i was fairly certain of her being a citizen as a result; however, her late roleclaim which seemed to serve only to save herself from exile is extremely flawed.
spies6Kirsten (5:55:36 PM): is the actual stance
spies6jenya (5:57:02 PM): I think we should ignore Iris and let others deal with her
spies6jenya (5:57:18 PM): And pretend she's gone and look for the next spy.
spies6Kirsten (5:57:30 PM): that's what I'm doing
spies6jenya (5:57:39 PM): Not based on Iris evidence yet, because there's that slim chance we COULD be wrong
spies6Kirsten (5:57:47 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:57:53 PM): I will be basing it on Iris evidence :-)
spies6jenya (5:57:58 PM): I know, it's tempting.
spies6Kirsten (5:57:58 PM): I never admit I'm wrong, remember?
spies6jenya (5:58:01 PM): Right.
spies6Kirsten (5:58:03 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (5:58:18 PM): I'm going to milk this episode for as much as it's worth
spies6Kirsten (5:58:27 PM): so, I'm going to assume Iris is a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:58:38 PM): and then try to determine the remaining spies as a result
spies6Kirsten (5:58:43 PM): if I'm wrong about Iris, then I wasted an episode
spies6Kirsten (5:58:48 PM): if I'm right, I'm ahead of the game
spies6Kirsten (5:59:09 PM): and if I get imprisoned tomorrow, then fuck
spies6Kirsten (5:59:11 PM): :-)
spies6jenya (6:00:57 PM): Right now, no spies are in danger for like 12 days.
spies6Kirsten (6:01:09 PM): ?
spies6jenya (6:01:12 PM): Impris, exile of iris
spies6jenya (6:01:16 PM): another impris
spies6Kirsten (6:01:24 PM): so Iris is a cit?
spies6jenya (6:01:27 PM): Right now they aren't facing an exile for ages.
spies6jenya (6:01:34 PM): No, besides Iris. She's toast.
spies6jenya (6:01:52 PM): But basically I'm saying the rest of them, the final three, are working out a long-term plan.
spies6Kirsten (6:01:59 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:02:10 PM): I think their plan has to be, throw Iris out with the trash
spies6Kirsten (6:02:13 PM): and move on
spies6jenya (6:02:28 PM): But also.. they need to establish suspicions of each other.
spies6jenya (6:02:36 PM): They're fucked if they don't.
spies6Kirsten (6:02:39 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:02:48 PM): Thor's suspicion post was interesting
spies6jenya (6:02:53 PM): Rey vs. Ariel reeks of that.
spies6Kirsten (6:03:11 PM): he expressed suspicion of me, Khaled, and Ariel. Players I have never seen him express suspicion of prior
spies6jenya (6:03:41 PM): Thor made it a point of telling me this morning that his world was flipped upside down.
spies6Kirsten (6:03:48 PM): because of Faith
spies6Kirsten (6:03:53 PM): ?
spies6jenya (6:03:55 PM): Yeah, whatever.
spies6jenya (6:04:08 PM): I don't see how you establish a worldview around Faith.
spies6jenya (6:04:17 PM): Such a central character to the game.
spies6jenya (6:04:29 PM): omg Faith was a cit my world is rocked.
spies6Kirsten (6:05:56 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (6:06:15 PM): Isn't Faith a staple of the majority of worldviews?
spies6Kirsten (6:06:18 PM): :-)
spies6jenya (6:06:38 PM): She was the ultimate coinflip
spies6jenya (6:06:42 PM): Terrible spy or terrible cit?
spies6jenya (6:06:52 PM): I wouldn't have bet more than $5 on her./
spies6Kirsten (6:06:57 PM): eh...Faith wasn't that bad
spies6Kirsten (6:07:04 PM): I feel bad for her
spies6Kirsten (6:07:18 PM): there are far worse cits in the game
spies6jenya (6:07:35 PM): Sure, but she never voted a spy, right?
spies6jenya (6:07:56 PM): And didn't make herself available when she knew she was the #1 target.
spies6Kirsten (6:08:21 PM): she was available
spies6Kirsten (6:08:25 PM): I talked to her like 3 times last episode
spies6jenya (6:10:29 PM): The good news is, with spies possibly gunning for roles the next several imprisonments
spies6jenya (6:10:35 PM): If you're a cit, you could be golden.
spies6Kirsten (6:10:53 PM): haha, hopefully so
spies6Kirsten (6:11:00 PM): Four minutes to go.
Iris picked Donald because of his FACE.
spies6Kirsten (6:11:03 PM): hahaha
spies6jenya (6:11:04 PM): ...
spies6jenya (6:11:20 PM): I think she might just be a pathological liar
spies6Kirsten (6:11:22 PM): I laugh, because it is true...she claims she picked Donald because of his face
spies6jenya (6:11:27 PM): There are SO many unnecessary details
spies6Kirsten (6:12:29 PM): haha, yeah
spies6jenya (6:15:13 PM): "I actually don't lie all that much IRL so I'm not sure...when I do lie it's a white lie to avoid hurting people's feelings."
spies6Kirsten (6:15:45 PM): day 1? the are you a good liar thread?
spies6jenya (6:15:53 PM): Yeah, lol
spies6jenya (6:17:02 PM): So if I had to vote THIS SECOND, my vote would be for:

Thor, Khaled, Callahan or Mirella.
spies6jenya (6:17:11 PM): Thor - As far as I can tell he hasn't participated at all.
spies6jenya (6:17:20 PM): Callahan - Spoke to briefly. He seems nice enough, mentioned that in Mafia he's often right but no one believes him. I know quite a few players like that who often turn out to be right due to gut feelings so I'll be interested in who he suspects.
spies6jenya (6:17:28 PM): Mirela - Haven't spoken to her at all yet.
spies6jenya (6:17:45 PM): Khaled - Posted yesterday but hasn't participated much if at all in live chat. This makes me mildly suspicious of Spy lurking
spies6Kirsten (6:18:14 PM): did she ever follow up on Callahan's suspicions?
spies6jenya (6:18:16 PM): Voting for a nonparticipant, always a solid strategy.
spies6jenya (6:19:36 PM): There are a few of us in our Union that have a much stronger suspect from another group than one from our own. Let's face it, we have a good group of people here!
spies6jenya (6:22:42 PM): spies6iris (7:13:19 PM): If I had to guess, though, Robert and Yvette are both strategic players. If they saw that mostly everybody else was, as you say, sheep, I wouldn't put it past either of them (if they were a Spy, I mean) to take the reins of the team and steer things.
spies6callahan (7:13:36 PM): I could see that too
spies6callahan (7:13:45 PM): however, i think they are just misguided citizens
spies6callahan (7:13:57 PM): I could be wrong though
spies6jenya (6:23:54 PM): Kirsten?
spies6Kirsten (6:24:02 PM): Jenya?
spies6jenya (6:24:03 PM): Check this out
spies6jenya (6:24:04 PM): spies6iris (7:21:45 PM): Okay. My initial problem with Mirela was how she went after you. It seemed a totally unprovoked attack. If you are a Spy, there is no benefit to you whatsoever to lie about whether you spoke to her or not. It's much more likely that you didn't remember everyone's names, than that you would lie about something that would so easily be contradicted.
spies6iris (7:22:02 PM): Then I thought maybe she was just playing in character, but I read her character and that personality didn't seem to fit.
spies6jenya (6:24:31 PM): Distancing or not?
spies6Kirsten (6:24:37 PM): who is the you?
spies6jenya (6:24:41 PM): Callahan
spies6Kirsten (6:25:15 PM): I say probably not
spies6jenya (6:25:27 PM): Right, next sentence Callahan says:
spies6Kirsten (6:25:29 PM): but I'm basing that on my thoughts on Mirela
spies6Kirsten (6:25:35 PM): not that portion
spies6jenya (6:25:35 PM): spies6callahan (7:23:19 PM): since she missed that detail that the spies had their roles, then she's less likely to be a spy
spies6iris (7:24:02 PM): Oh! Okay. I didn't put that together
spies6jenya (6:25:44 PM): Iris totally backs off the Mirela attack
spies6Kirsten (6:26:02 PM): she also backed off of Callahan
spies6jenya (6:26:14 PM): spies6iris (7:30:09 PM): Who's most likely to be a Spy, or who's most likely to get Exiled? Mirela still bugs me.
spies6Kirsten (6:26:21 PM): and tried to back out of Yvette but voted her to save Donald
spies6jenya (6:27:00 PM): spies6callahan (7:33:31 PM): granting similar ideas and sound logic, do you think you and i should vote the same way?
spies6callahan (7:33:51 PM): it would be much better than scattering votes every which way
spies6iris (7:34:10 PM): Yes, you're probably right.
spies6Kirsten (6:27:17 PM): who did callahan vote?
spies6jenya (6:27:22 PM): spies6callahan (7:37:26 PM): i could do a robert vote, but I don't feel very strongly about it
spies6iris (7:38:10 PM): I could probably do a Robert vote too
spies6jenya (6:27:35 PM): God, she's such a little snake.
spies6Kirsten (6:27:42 PM): where is this chat from?
spies6jenya (6:27:55 PM): I just pulled up all of Iris's posts.
spies6Kirsten (6:28:05 PM): Iris made the new spy mistake of lying about things she didn't need to lie about
spies6jenya (6:28:14 PM): From her profile, ask for the last "300 posts"
spies6Kirsten (6:28:25 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (6:28:33 PM): what's up with that search function
spies6jenya (6:28:34 PM): spies6iris (7:38:32 PM): Ed I will try to talk to more. Now that Thor's shown up, Khaled seems to be our biggest lurker.
spies6Kirsten (6:28:40 PM): half the time it gives me like only half the posts
spies6jenya (6:28:46 PM): I'll give you one guess.
spies6jenya (6:29:12 PM): I think it counts confessional posts in the # but it doesnt give them to you cause they're private.
spies6Kirsten (6:29:21 PM): ah
spies6Kirsten (6:29:26 PM): would make sense
spies6Kirsten (6:29:43 PM): because I did like 200 on Yvette and didn't get all her posts
spies6jenya (6:29:57 PM): By the way
spies6jenya (6:30:00 PM): spies6iris (7:42:02 PM): Not one on one. We were both serious contenders in the power competition. We chit-chatted in there and I got to like her, but I haven't heard anything of substance since then.
spies6Kirsten (6:30:14 PM): about Ariel?
spies6jenya (6:30:15 PM): I guess Iris stayed up late to try to win it?
spies6Kirsten (6:30:23 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:30:29 PM): Levi was talking to me abuot that earlier
spies6Kirsten (6:30:44 PM): Iris and jaya were 4th and 5th out
spies6jenya (6:30:47 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (6:30:50 PM): spies6iris (7:44:22 PM): Okay. Well, let's see if we can find anything out between now and tomorrow. If not, I guess I'll hold my breath and vote Robert with you. Chances are we're likely to mislynch Day One anyway, but if Robert gets Exiled, we'll get some good information out of it.
spies6jenya (6:31:46 PM): Mirela – I was pretty damn convinced that Mirela was a spy during Episode One.
spies6jenya (6:31:58 PM): This is her first suspicions post of Episode 2.
spies6jenya (6:35:02 PM): Also.. Iris didn't ask Ariel to save Callahan even though she thought Callahan had a role.
spies6Kirsten (6:35:13 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (6:35:28 PM): well, if she thought Mirela was a spy during episode 1, why not vote her episode 1?
spies6jenya (6:35:37 PM): She was active in chat until that discussion time when Ariel was thinking.
spies6jenya (6:35:52 PM): Then Iris disappeared and gave no input til after exile.
spies6jenya (6:36:27 PM): spies6iris (7:40:48 PM): Unless you think Ariel might save you.
spies6Kirsten (6:37:56 PM): what's the implication?
spies6Kirsten (6:38:00 PM): she's chatting with Ariel?
spies6Kirsten (6:38:04 PM): telling her not to save Callahan?
spies6jenya (6:38:15 PM): She was aware of Ariel's ability to save Callahan
spies6jenya (6:38:20 PM): But never tried to persuade her.
spies6jenya (6:38:26 PM): That was from a chat with Callahan.
spies6Kirsten (6:38:31 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (6:38:38 PM): I mean, she's a spy :-)
spies6Kirsten (6:38:53 PM): but I thought you were drawing a connection to her and ariel
spies6jenya (6:39:12 PM): That's unclear.
spies6jenya (6:39:37 PM): What's THIS mean to you?
spies6jenya (6:39:38 PM): Khaled, I need to talk to you one on one, your opinion of me is missing some crucial information.
spies6Kirsten (6:40:03 PM): Khaled, back off me please.
spies6Kirsten (6:40:08 PM): you're going to get me exiled, stop it
spies6jenya (6:40:19 PM): Think she'd say that in public to a fellow spy?
spies6Kirsten (6:40:35 PM): not sure
spies6Kirsten (6:40:45 PM): if Iris is the spy
spies6Kirsten (6:40:47 PM): Thor is pick 2
spies6Kirsten (6:40:55 PM): have those two interacted AT ALL?
spies6jenya (6:41:06 PM): Not yet.
spies6jenya (6:41:08 PM): I am now voting MeiYun. She repeatedly tried to put words in my mouth saying I "forgot" to try to save Callahan, which I never said.
spies6jenya (6:41:18 PM): That would explain the Mei Yun imprisonment.
spies6Kirsten (6:41:24 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:41:28 PM): also Gabriela was on Iris
spies6Kirsten (6:41:30 PM): as well as Donald
spies6Kirsten (6:41:33 PM): 2 for 1
spies6jenya (6:41:34 PM): LOL
spies6jenya (6:42:04 PM): I'll be using my minus vote for Levi, because I think he's a Citizen. A Spy would be a lot more likely to be careful about what he says. Someone who's contradicting himself that much is more likely to be a Citizen who isn't carefully watching his words because he doesn't have anything to hide.
spies6Kirsten (6:42:33 PM): Levi is callahan v. 2
spies6Kirsten (6:42:36 PM): for Iris
spies6jenya (6:42:39 PM): Yup.
spies6jenya (6:42:44 PM): She's STILL using him
spies6Kirsten (6:42:46 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (6:43:25 PM): Some of us fought tooth and nail to win, while others seemed to be going through the motions. In a couple of cases, people even seemed to be trying to sabotage things.
spies6jenya (6:43:51 PM): She proceeded to frame Amelia = spy for bad counting of tacks
spies6Kirsten (6:44:27 PM): was Iris good at any of the challenges?
spies6Kirsten (6:44:30 PM): were you around for any?
spies6Kirsten (6:44:44 PM): she was 7/10 for the last challenge, the defining one
spies6jenya (6:44:44 PM): She did fine.
spies6jenya (6:44:49 PM): By the way..
spies6jenya (6:44:53 PM): re: Yvette case
spies6jenya (6:44:55 PM): Jason, you've got some good arguments here
spies6jenya (6:45:03 PM): I've been saying this to a few people behind the scenes so I might as well say it in public now. In retrospect, I think the purpose of that whole plot was really to disarm Robert.
spies6jenya (6:45:14 PM): The purpose of the plot was ostensibly to save both of them from Imprisonment, and what happens the next night? Robert gets imprisoned. Looks like a clever Spy plot to get Robert out of the way to me.
spies6jenya (6:45:49 PM): That leaves Iris and Ariel, right?
spies6jenya (6:46:06 PM): "I won't vote her if she's not around to defend herself either, I'm just putting my suspicion of her on the record."
spies6jenya (6:46:33 PM): "Gabriela, your point is pretty damning though. Donald, what did you mean by that? "
spies6jenya (6:46:41 PM): totally tuned in to someone on her scumpartner
spies6jenya (6:46:48 PM): Next day, Gabs turns up dead.
spies6jenya (6:47:14 PM): "Kirsten, you make a case against Donald, throw a fit that others don't follow up on it, and then vote Levi?

I have a real, real problem with this"
spies6jenya (6:47:21 PM): This doesn't exactly sound like distancing.
spies6Kirsten (6:47:36 PM): she wouldn't vote me because I wasn't around to defend myself
spies6Kirsten (6:47:36 PM): hah
spies6Kirsten (6:47:38 PM): spies6iris (12:17:47 PM):I would have voted Donald because I have decided Donald or Amelia must have been a Spy and swung the vote onto Yvette at the last minute. I picked Donald because he was closer to actual Exile. I don't expect to get any Cit cred for that, though, as it's a null tell since I couldn't actually vote. I just was really, really frustrated being Jailed and not being able to participate. spies6Kirsten (12:19:06 PM):what do you mean swung the vote to Yvette last minute? spies6Kirsten (12:19:16 PM):she got steamrolled 13 to not even close spies6Kirsten (12:19:46 PM):also, Amelia voted Donald spies6iris (12:19:51 PM):Yes, that's true, but the word on AIM was that Donald was in the lead...several people, including I think Mirela, and including me, changed our votes to her at the last minute. spies6iris (12:20:17 PM):I didn't know Amelia voted Donald but I'm somewhat less suspicious of her now that Donald turned up Spy. Maybe she just really can't count.
spies6jenya (6:48:00 PM): "That being said, Yvette is my top suspect. The case on Donald...well, I was half-convinced by it but then your not voting him makes it seem too much like a scum bandwagon. I'm voting Amelia because I don't buy her argument about the challenge. "
spies6Kirsten (6:48:35 PM): pies6iris (12:19:51 PM):Yes, that's true, but the word on AIM was that Donald was in the lead...several people, including I think Mirela, and including me, changed our votes to her at the last minute.
spies6Kirsten (6:48:44 PM): word on AIM?
spies6jenya (6:48:54 PM): lol
spies6Kirsten (6:48:59 PM): spies6Kirsten (12:21:05 PM):word on aim? was this in the spies6 chat room? spies6iris (12:21:33 PM):No, private IMs. I'll look through my logs and see if I can find them for you. spies6Kirsten (12:21:39 PM):sure spies6Kirsten (12:22:02 PM):at least from my perspective, it seemed fairly clear it was going to be Yvette
spies6Kirsten (6:49:20 PM): spies6iris (12:22:55 PM):Okay, well, it wasn't clear to me, and I struggled with it because I truly didn't want to vote her if she wasn't around to defend herself, but she'd been my top suspect for a week and I wasn't able to vote her the previous time. spies6iris (12:23:20 PM):I changed my vote at the last minute...Khaled couldn't make up his mind but he chose Amelia at the last minute.
spies6jenya (6:49:49 PM): Does that match her story about her vote getting changed?
spies6Kirsten (6:49:59 PM): no, absolutely not
spies6Kirsten (6:50:04 PM): her vote didn't get changed
spies6Kirsten (6:50:11 PM): that is one of my 19 trump cards
spies6jenya (6:50:17 PM): What a stinky little liar.
spies6jenya (6:50:35 PM): Man I wish I'd done this on Sunday morning.
spies6Kirsten (6:50:45 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (6:50:46 PM): Reading Iris's posts, they smell like bad cheese.
spies6Kirsten (6:50:54 PM): although it's easier to see it now
spies6Kirsten (6:51:02 PM): after she claims an unbelievable role
spies6jenya (6:51:15 PM): I have a feeling Rey's posts will read like this.
spies6jenya (6:51:56 PM): "I have had a suspicion of Georgia since Day One due to some comments of hers in the chat below. I didn't get to ask her about it in the first team round because we were on different teams, and I forgot to follow up on it."
spies6jenya (6:53:17 PM): Whoa:
spies6jenya (6:53:18 PM): "I haven't understood the Imprisonments either except for Robert, and it turned out I was wrong about that, so my best guess is the Spies are trying to confuse us."
spies6jenya (6:53:40 PM): How would she know she was wrong about that? Faith and Ariel were still alive.
spies6Kirsten (6:54:03 PM): wrong about her Yvette theory
spies6jenya (6:54:14 PM): I loved this:
spies6jenya (6:54:15 PM): "What is the matter with you people? I get Jailed and your first thought is that I'm a Spy and a Spy buddy did it to take heat off of me? Hellooo....I didn't have that much heat on me, I'm one of at least 4 people who changed their vote to Yvette near the end. Whoever said it would make more sense to Jail Kirsten is right. I don't actually think she's a Spy though my only guess is she must be totally off with her suspicions."
spies6jenya (6:54:49 PM): "I am finding Donald and Amelia suspicious because they were the other 2 front runners in the last Exile. I believe one of them must have had Spy buddies trying to swing the vote at the last minute."
spies6Kirsten (6:54:58 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (6:55:01 PM): just post those back to back
spies6jenya (6:55:06 PM): I don't think she ever tried to track down those people "swinging the voteS"
spies6jenya (6:55:20 PM): Even though she just told you it was all over IM
spies6Kirsten (6:55:32 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:56:01 PM): There's Khaled
spies6Kirsten (6:56:10 PM): who's been hounding Iris since episode 2
spies6Kirsten (6:56:15 PM): there's Thor who has no stance on Iris
spies6Kirsten (6:56:22 PM): and there's Ariel, staunch defender of Iris last night
spies6jenya (6:56:26 PM): lol
spies6jenya (6:56:28 PM): Fuckers.
spies6Kirsten (6:56:31 PM): and Mirela, pushing for Faith over Iris
spies6jenya (6:56:47 PM): Group of Death more like Group of Stooges.
spies6jenya (6:57:10 PM): I bet the spies in that original group get a bonus if they clear all the Cits out.
spies6jenya (6:57:22 PM): Free cake in the Spy HQ.
spies6Kirsten (6:57:34 PM): a gift certificate to a nearby shopping mall
spies6jenya (6:57:50 PM): Here she dares Khaled to come after her:
spies6jenya (6:57:51 PM): Khaled...I need to look this up to check my references, but I believe in one of your Khaled reports or in an Exile chat, you referred to me as "75% Spy" but then said that I "could wait" to go after.

If my memory is wrong, forgive me...I will look up what I'm talking about and post it when I find it, but I find that very odd...if you're truly Spy hunting, wouldn't you want to take me down if you're that confident I'm a Spy?
spies6jenya (6:58:19 PM): From all this crap, it doesn't look like she's partners with Mirela, Khaled, Amelia or Georgia.
spies6Kirsten (6:58:31 PM): hmm...
spies6Kirsten (6:58:36 PM): I could maybe see Khaled
spies6Kirsten (6:59:03 PM): spies6Kirsten (12:32:31 PM):so where do you look next? spies6Kirsten (12:32:47 PM):who's your next suspect? spies6iris (12:33:37 PM):Georgia, for reasons previously stated, and William for not really contributing. And I'm thinking about Khaled...because so far I've been trusting him but his standoffishness is starting to look suspicious. spies6Kirsten (12:34:21 PM):Khaled voted for you at one point, right? spies6iris (12:34:35 PM):I'm not sure, but he's suspected me more or less continuously. spies6Kirsten (12:35:00 PM): IRIS (+1): +1 Gabriela, +1 Khaled, spies6iris (12:35:16 PM):Okay, that's right, I remember that. spies6Kirsten (12:36:01 PM):what were his reasons for suspecting you?
spies6jenya (6:59:27 PM): Yeah that sounds funky.
spies6Kirsten (6:59:37 PM): spies6iris (12:37:28 PM):It's his "algorythm." Don't know if I'm spelling that right. I'm a Spy to him because of my voting record and because, according to him, I never have my own suspects but jump on bandwagons, which is totally untrue but he wouldn't know that because he doesn't talk to me except right before Exile to finger me and say, "Tell me why I shouldn't vote for you." spies6Kirsten (12:38:15 PM):what do you think about him basically not using the algorithm last episode? spies6Kirsten (12:38:32 PM):or at least not making a big deal out of it spies6iris (12:39:02 PM):I honestly didn't notice because I was jailed...did he vote Donald? If so, did he post reasoning anywhere?
spies6Kirsten (7:00:19 PM): spies6iris (12:46:06 PM):Wanted his vote to go on someone who would actually be exiled...like, using me as an example...I don't think many people voted me because I was jailed...I wouldn't be exiled that round so even if I was his top suspect, he wasn't going to vote me if it wouldn't count...now that I'm thinking of this it reminds me of something weird he said once. spies6iris (12:46:37 PM):In one of the algorithms...he said he was 75% sure I was Spy but "I could wait." I would think if he really thinks I'm a Spy he'd want to take me down. spies6Kirsten (12:47:05 PM):that's a good point spies6iris (12:47:38 PM):I think I'm going to have to post that in the Burg while I remember. spies6Kirsten (12:54:17 PM):have trouble remembering suspicions? spies6Kirsten (12:54:27 PM):it must be tough if you have to fake them all?
spies6jenya (7:00:54 PM): rofl
spies6jenya (7:01:02 PM): Kirsten, don't be so mean to the spies.
spies6jenya (7:01:06 PM): They're handicapped.
spies6Kirsten (7:01:06 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (7:01:08 PM): sorry
spies6jenya (7:01:19 PM): This sucks, I may have to stop suspecting you.
spies6jenya (7:01:21 PM): At least for now.
spies6Kirsten (7:01:28 PM): what a crying shame
spies6jenya (7:01:31 PM): Seriously.
spies6jenya (7:01:38 PM): What fun is a game of spies with these spies?
spies6Kirsten (7:01:46 PM): haha, yeah
spies6Kirsten (7:01:52 PM): maybe the last few are good
spies6Kirsten (7:01:53 PM): eh?
spies6jenya (7:02:00 PM): If they are, they're hiding it.
spies6jenya (7:02:53 PM): Is Bees vs. Doves the sequel to Plants vs. Zombies?
spies6Kirsten (7:03:20 PM): you'll have to talk to Boris about that :-)
spies6Kirsten (7:04:26 PM): Iris is online
spies6jenya (7:04:40 PM): Let's do a group chat!
spies6jenya (7:04:51 PM): It'll be like the good old days, with leeches and stuff.
spies6Kirsten (7:04:54 PM): I think they call that a massacre
spies6Kirsten (7:05:01 PM): haha
spies6jenya (7:05:42 PM): Are you in the s6 chatroom? There's no one there.
spies6Kirsten (7:05:50 PM): I am now
spies6Kirsten (7:06:03 PM): she must be on her phone or something
spies6Kirsten (7:06:07 PM): I can't invite her to chat room
spies6jenya (7:06:13 PM): Same here.
spies6Kirsten (7:06:19 PM): what a shame
spies6Kirsten (7:06:25 PM): that could have been fun ;-)
spies6jenya (7:06:26 PM): Seriously, what a buzzkill.
spies6Kirsten (7:22:33 PM): I think if Iris is a spy then Ariel is probably a cit
spies6jenya (7:23:49 PM): Tough to say.
spies6jenya (7:23:58 PM): What would you base that on?
spies6Kirsten (7:24:16 PM): I'm talking to Ariel right now. I'm getting the impression Ariel was another Callahan/Levi
spies6jenya (7:24:31 PM): But Ariel's not dumb.
spies6jenya (7:25:12 PM): We've narrowed Iris's partner in that group down to Thor or Ariel.
spies6jenya (7:25:28 PM): With reasonable certainty.
spies6Kirsten (7:25:31 PM): hmmm
spies6Kirsten (7:25:36 PM): you seem willing to throw out Khaled
spies6Kirsten (7:25:38 PM): pretty quickly
spies6Kirsten (7:25:53 PM): I would argue Thor over Ariel
spies6jenya (7:25:55 PM): To some extent. The early Iris chats look like she's genuinely antagonistic
spies6Kirsten (7:26:02 PM): hmm
spies6jenya (7:26:06 PM): And yeah, Thor is sneaky.
spies6jenya (7:26:16 PM): He was on Faith for three days but never drove the case home?
spies6Kirsten (7:26:18 PM): I would also argue Thor + Ariel are not spies together
spies6Kirsten (7:26:21 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (7:26:39 PM): He disappeared but was definitely checking in yesterday.
spies6jenya (7:26:42 PM): Thor, that is.
spies6Kirsten (7:26:48 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (7:26:55 PM): And seemed nervous today.
spies6Kirsten (7:27:04 PM): I want to fight with him
spies6Kirsten (7:27:09 PM): over my stance on Yvette
spies6jenya (7:27:10 PM): Wanted it very much known he was wrong and sorry.
spies6Kirsten (7:29:37 PM): William made the point
spies6Kirsten (7:30:14 PM): in the Iris thread. The point about her saying she had to lie about her role, but then giving out the full role anyway
spies6jenya (7:30:21 PM): Yep.
spies6Kirsten (7:30:27 PM): I was wondering how long it would take
spies6jenya (7:30:36 PM): +1 William
spies6Kirsten (7:30:39 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (7:30:46 PM): Now he's really screwed tomorrow.
spies6Kirsten (7:31:03 PM): you think he'll get imprisoned?
spies6jenya (7:31:08 PM): Possibly.
spies6jenya (7:31:16 PM): He's not protected.
spies6Kirsten (7:31:28 PM): I'd say doubtful based on the suspicion on him
spies6jenya (7:31:37 PM): That's fading fast.
spies6Kirsten (7:31:40 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (7:31:50 PM): Rey suspects him, and that could be Spy BS
spies6jenya (7:31:58 PM): Does anyone else actually suspect William?
spies6Kirsten (7:32:03 PM): Boris
spies6Kirsten (7:32:04 PM): Pete
spies6jenya (7:32:10 PM): If so, they probably haven't heard the rolecrap.
spies6Kirsten (7:32:11 PM): myself (at least publicly)
spies6Kirsten (7:32:25 PM): Rey
spies6jenya (7:32:45 PM): If the spies know about William's role they'll probably axe him.
spies6jenya (7:32:54 PM): "Role investigator" is dangerous.
spies6Kirsten (7:33:08 PM): depends
spies6Kirsten (7:33:23 PM): Iris is probably a role. How many more do they have?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:39 PM): If they still have roles alive, then he's dangerous. If they don't, he's not.
spies6jenya (7:33:51 PM): True.
spies6Kirsten (7:35:16 PM): I'm liking Georgia as a cit again
spies6jenya (7:35:28 PM): Probably.
spies6Kirsten (7:36:50 PM): I guess that would make Boris/Amelia/Levi
spies6Kirsten (7:36:53 PM): from my team
spies6Kirsten (7:37:01 PM): Iris/Thor
spies6Kirsten (7:37:10 PM): and then Khaled/Jason/Rey as potential others
spies6jenya (7:37:17 PM): Sounds about right.
spies6Kirsten (7:59:37 PM): how did the resident norse god find out about your role?
spies6jenya (8:04:31 PM): Rey./
spies6Kirsten (8:04:47 PM): apparently rey just blocked Levi, hehe
spies6Kirsten (8:33:25 PM): do you find it suspicious when people are posting in the burg but do not get on AIM?
spies6jenya (8:43:11 PM): Hmm, not too terribly, could be a work thing
spies6Kirsten (9:42:05 PM): you know what's funny
spies6Kirsten (9:42:13 PM): if iris is indeed a spy, then Paris voted for 2 spies in 2 rounds
spies6jenya (9:42:28 PM): lol good boy
spies6Kirsten (10:20:55 PM): spies6iris (6:09:20 PM):Yes. That's exactly it. Because I feel that one of the 4 of us (me, Faith, Ariel or Yvette) DOES have to be a Spy, since I believe that the whole purpose of the plot was to keep Robert from Spy hunting. I know it's not me and I trust Ariel 100%. This is subtle and clever, but Yvette IS clever (maybe not so subtle all the time ;-). spies6iris (6:10:13 PM):That sets me up without looking like she's setting me up...Ariel's pretty safe. And I see her as promoting the "it's not necessarily true that one of us must be a Spy" thing to take eyes off the real purpose of that plot.
spies6Kirsten (10:22:22 PM): spies6iris (1:56:53 PM):Not bad. I was discouraged after the other night but I'm back trying to investigate again. spies6iris (1:57:16 PM):You were so totally right about Occam's Razor. It's a mistake I make all the time, I should have listened to you.
spies6Kirsten (10:22:45 PM): it's amazing how scummy people look in retrospect
spies6jenya (10:23:00 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:24:03 PM): spies6iris (2:00:06 PM):Yeah, you're right. We do have to do a better job of posting our suspects too beforehand and presenting a united front. The voting is all over the place, it's clear the Spys can swing things. I trust Khaled and I think he's really smart, even though he's suspected me for a while. I just wish he'd participate more before Exile. It would help the rest of us get our acts together. spies6Kirsten (2:00:23 PM):why do you trust Khaled? spies6iris (2:01:19 PM):Mainly because he's very, very methodical. I think he can come to the wrong conclusions-- I know he's wrong about me-- but I think he's sincerely trying to catch Spies. He's apparently from MafiaScum, I've played with people from there before though not played there, and that's how they play when they're town. spies6Kirsten (2:01:48 PM):how do you think he plays when he's scum?
spies6Kirsten (10:25:22 PM): spies6iris (2:15:12 PM):In fact I wanted to attack Georgia for no reason just to get a laugh but figured my time is better spent Spy hunting.
spies6Kirsten (10:25:28 PM): spy hunting?
spies6jenya (10:25:29 PM): ...
spies6jenya (10:25:33 PM): she never even tried
spies6Kirsten (10:27:28 PM): she mentions khaled a lot
spies6jenya (10:27:46 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (10:35:11 PM): I understand Rey is having a change of heart?
spies6jenya (10:35:15 PM): After talking with Ariel?
spies6Kirsten (10:50:39 PM): change of heart?
spies6jenya (10:50:53 PM): He disbelieves Iris.
spies6jenya (10:50:57 PM): *gasp*
spies6Kirsten (10:51:08 PM): he claimed to disblieve Iris when we chatted earlier
spies6jenya (10:51:12 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:51:12 PM): but still wanted dead Amelia
spies6Kirsten (10:51:15 PM): tsk tsk
spies6jenya (10:51:19 PM): That's so crazy.
spies6jenya (10:51:21 PM): Rey you crazy
spies6Kirsten (10:51:24 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (10:52:47 PM): so you're saying Rey and Ariel are reconciling their differences in mutual disbelief of Iris?
spies6Kirsten (10:52:52 PM): madness
spies6jenya (10:53:12 PM): Well, he was chatting with her for an hour
spies6jenya (10:53:18 PM): And suddenly had seen the light.
Tuesday, June 16, 2009
spies6Kirsten (12:13:55 AM): what do you think about Donald + Jaya both planning to originally minus vote Rey
spies6Kirsten (12:14:02 AM): I think that lends +cit points to Rey
spies6Kirsten (12:14:16 AM): because he wasn't going to get any votes...why would the spies both tie themselves to him?
spies6jenya (12:14:22 AM): yeah it's bizarre
spies6jenya (12:14:42 AM): they were a couple of blunt crayons, don and jaya
spies6Kirsten (12:14:47 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (12:14:58 AM): who did Thor -vote?
spies6jenya (12:15:07 AM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (12:15:23 AM): Roxy

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (1:40:51 AM): hello Gorigia
spies6Kirsten (1:41:05 AM): Geroogia
spies6Georgia (1:41:26 AM): Gerogia.
spies6Georgia (1:41:31 AM): Hey Kirsten.
spies6Kirsten (1:41:59 AM): kicking your internet while it's down?
spies6Kirsten (1:42:02 AM): that's not very ladylike
spies6Georgia (1:42:32 AM): Haha. Well, it is behaving now since I kicked it. But it kept disconnecting then reconnecting.
spies6Kirsten (1:43:04 AM): well, I guess if you can kick it in and out of shape, then go for it
spies6Kirsten (1:43:41 AM): so what do you think about Iris' claim?
spies6Georgia (1:43:54 AM): I'm beginning to think it is full of shit.
spies6Georgia (1:45:11 AM): However, I don't know it is. But I think if she does have the role, it doesn't necessarily point to a definite citizen role.
spies6Georgia (1:45:19 AM): Then again, I'm not familiar with spies roles.
spies6Georgia (1:45:48 AM): I've been reading over her posts, and the more I read - the more scummy things I see.
spies6Kirsten (1:45:50 AM): I would guess if she has it she's probably a citizen, but I'm skeptical about two of the players able to "confirm" it being dead
spies6Georgia (1:46:27 AM): It is highly convenient that they are.
spies6Georgia (1:55:52 AM): Apparently the third person, I would guess would be someone whom wasn't online at all during the exile chat or afterwards.
spies6Kirsten (1:56:12 AM): yes
spies6Kirsten (1:56:28 AM): and I don't think it's mirela, or at least she hasn't said anything about it in the time we've spent talking
spies6Kirsten (1:56:35 AM): so...Gretchen, Oswald, Pete
spies6Kirsten (1:56:40 AM): actually, I think pete was around
spies6Kirsten (1:56:45 AM): not sure, though
spies6Georgia (1:56:47 AM): Thor
spies6Kirsten (1:56:50 AM): right
spies6Kirsten (1:56:56 AM): amelia
spies6Georgia (1:57:08 AM): Yeah.
spies6Georgia (1:57:15 AM): William.
spies6Kirsten (2:02:16 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:02:25 AM): that it?
spies6Kirsten (2:02:29 AM): those 5-6?
spies6Kirsten (2:03:01 AM): I want to send them all a PM and ask if they've gotten a gift
spies6Georgia (2:03:04 AM): I think so. I think everyone else was around during or post exile.
spies6Georgia (2:03:27 AM): I thought Levi was supposed to take care of it, because he knew "all the details" or.. something. lol.
spies6Kirsten (2:03:32 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:03:41 AM): I want to know all the details
spies6Georgia (2:04:08 AM): HAha. I want to put Rey on the grill.. and well grill him.
spies6Kirsten (2:04:20 AM): yeah
spies6Georgia (2:04:21 AM): I don't know if he has had a breakdown or what.
spies6Kirsten (2:04:22 AM): fire up the grill
spies6Kirsten (2:04:29 AM): yeah, he was nuts
spies6Kirsten (2:04:40 AM): he unblocked me eventually and we talked
spies6Kirsten (2:04:43 AM): but he was still crazy
spies6Kirsten (2:04:52 AM): there was a wild look in his eye, and he kept twitching
spies6Georgia (2:05:05 AM): Hahaha.
spies6Kirsten (2:05:07 AM): you didn't slap him around with your witch powers, did you?
spies6Georgia (2:05:12 AM): No.
spies6Georgia (2:05:32 AM): All I really did was call his "100% trusted group" a bunch of spies.
spies6Georgia (2:05:57 AM): Then he pretty much said the talk was over.
spies6Kirsten (2:06:05 AM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (2:06:17 AM): for someone who likes to dish it out
spies6Kirsten (2:06:19 AM): he can't take it
spies6Georgia (2:06:33 AM): Then he said something about being in the right. Then I asked in the right about what.
spies6Georgia (2:06:39 AM): The he blocked me, and I laughed.
spies6Georgia (2:06:43 AM): but it didn't go through.
spies6Kirsten (2:06:54 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:06:58 AM): did you "die" laughing?
spies6Kirsten (2:07:08 AM): or did you manage to survive this bout
spies6Georgia (2:07:10 AM): No. I 'hahahahaha'd
spies6Kirsten (2:07:14 AM): good
spies6Kirsten (2:07:21 AM): yeah, my chat with him was hilarious
spies6Kirsten (2:07:29 AM): when I asked him about the spies viewer
spies6Kirsten (2:07:34 AM): I coudln't stop laughing
spies6Kirsten (2:07:41 AM): when he said "do you think I faked the Faith reaction"
spies6Georgia (2:07:53 AM): Haha. He said he blocked you, because you called him a spy for no reason.
spies6Georgia (2:08:06 AM): Then Jenya clarified for him I guess.
spies6Georgia (2:08:18 AM): He blocked Tiberius, because he got the answer to his question and didn't want to talk anymore.
spies6Georgia (2:08:31 AM): He was being fed information from one of his "100% trusted"people.
spies6Kirsten (2:08:52 AM): probably Jenya, but I don't know
spies6Kirsten (2:10:00 AM): spies6Kirsten (8:40:07 PM): how regularly do you view spies?
spies6rey (8:40:30 PM): hmm ?
spies6rey (8:40:41 PM): so you think i'm a spy now?
spies6rey (8:40:48 PM): you think i faked the faith reaction?
spies6rey (8:40:54 PM): ...
spies6Kirsten (8:40:56 PM): what?
spies6Kirsten (2:10:02 AM): spies6rey (8:41:03 PM): screw you.
spies6Kirsten (8:41:04 PM): I'm not even accusing you of anything, ahhaha
spies6rey (8:41:11 PM): you just said i view spies or whatever.
spies6rey (8:41:15 PM): i don't even fucking know the spies.
spies6Kirsten (8:41:19 PM): hahahahaha
spies6Kirsten (2:10:07 AM): such a funny chat
spies6Georgia (2:10:27 AM): Haha. Even though he has stated before Sam told him all of the spies.
spies6Georgia (2:10:31 AM): I think it was him.
spies6Kirsten (2:10:33 AM): he has stated that
spies6Kirsten (2:10:36 AM): yeah, it was him
spies6Georgia (2:11:08 AM): Maybe he was just seriously butt hurt over his "beloved faith" going.
spies6Georgia (2:11:15 AM): Or, he fell off a cliff.
spies6Kirsten (2:12:39 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:15:08 AM): the combination of Iris' claim, Rey going bonkers, you saying the word bugger, and a bunch of other stuff made this a clear winner of "most rididculous night in the game"
spies6Georgia (2:16:56 AM): Hahaha. I had typed 'Fuck off'. But then figured it would be taken as uber offensive.
spies6Kirsten (2:17:11 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:17:22 AM): probably not the best after the high running of emotions
spies6Georgia (2:17:33 AM): People need some thicker skin.
spies6Kirsten (2:17:36 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:17:42 AM): Ariel, Rey, William, etc.
spies6Kirsten (2:17:55 AM): the game is going to be people accusing each other of things that may or may not be true
spies6Kirsten (2:17:59 AM): learn to deal
spies6Georgia (2:18:11 AM): Haha. I think Ariel the most. I haven't really experienced Rey and William totally going off.
spies6Kirsten (2:18:31 AM): well rey was pretty short fused tonight
spies6Kirsten (2:18:33 AM): but yeah
spies6Georgia (2:18:50 AM): I think he was completely off his rocker about something.
spies6Kirsten (2:19:36 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:19:38 AM): probably Faith
spies6Kirsten (2:19:41 AM): although I don't know why
spies6Kirsten (2:19:48 AM): I don't think the two of them were particularly close
spies6Georgia (2:22:02 AM): Perhaps secretly.
spies6Kirsten (2:23:21 AM): a secret tale of love and intrigue
spies6Kirsten (2:23:24 AM): Rey and Faith
spies6Kirsten (2:23:36 AM): a love unbroken by the distance of exile
spies6Georgia (2:24:08 AM): Hahaha.
spies6Georgia (2:25:32 AM): Well Iris will probably definitely be around for the next exile.
spies6Kirsten (2:25:59 AM): and unless she can manage to prove she's telling the truth, hopefully not around afterward
spies6Georgia (2:26:51 AM): Hopefully she'll be around to be grilled. She better find a cord for her laptop.
spies6Kirsten (2:27:00 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:27:09 AM): kind of a sketchy coincidence
spies6Kirsten (2:27:23 AM): laptop's battery power managed to last long enough for her to claim
spies6Kirsten (2:27:25 AM): but no longer
spies6Georgia (2:28:32 AM): Yes. I don't think she has ever mentioned anything about it before. Not that I was really paying attention to whom had laptops with no batteries.
spies6Georgia (2:28:54 AM): Er chargers and cords.
spies6Kirsten (2:28:58 AM): I had a thread in my confessional dedicated to it
spies6Kirsten (2:29:21 AM): Khaled, episode 1. Mentioned offhand the recharging of a laptop. Donald episode 3, mentioned his laptop for going invisible
spies6Kirsten (2:29:38 AM): Mirela, episode 4, referenced her laptop in terms of challenge performance
spies6Georgia (2:29:43 AM): Hahaha.
spies6Kirsten (2:29:45 AM): (or maybe I'm just bullshitting)
spies6Kirsten (2:30:12 AM): so Iris was apparently sick
spies6Georgia (2:30:45 AM): Swine Flu, I bet.
spies6Kirsten (2:30:53 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:30:57 AM): a nasty case
spies6Kirsten (2:31:04 AM): we chatted at the beginning of the episode
spies6Kirsten (2:31:10 AM): nothing regarding illness was discussed
spies6Georgia (2:31:38 AM): I think I saw her mention something about Nyquil, when I was searching for something in the spies6 log.
spies6Georgia (2:31:54 AM): But I think that was an episode or two ago.
spies6Kirsten (2:32:14 AM): Georgia has a sickness watch thread in her confessional
spies6Kirsten (2:32:22 AM): Episode 4, Nyquil was referenced off hand
spies6Kirsten (2:32:33 AM): episode 5, khaled joked about swine flu
spies6Georgia (2:32:42 AM): that I do.
spies6Georgia (2:33:27 AM): I may or may not have a thread devoted to signatures in game.
spies6Georgia (2:33:54 AM): spies6iris (19:57:51): well, I'm high on Nyquil right now, it kind of inteferes with the irony receptor
spies6Georgia (2:33:58 AM): During future week.
spies6Kirsten (2:34:13 AM): ok
spies6Georgia (2:34:23 AM): High on nyquil but able to make many appearances that episode.
spies6Kirsten (2:34:35 AM): this episode sick with random ailment
spies6Kirsten (2:34:50 AM): an ailment left undiscussed when we chatted
spies6Georgia (2:34:56 AM): Which passed to her laptop's battery abilities.
spies6Kirsten (2:36:58 AM): sometimes my AIM will spam me with the message that someone has signed off over and over again
spies6Kirsten (2:37:15 AM): spies6iris is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
spies6iris signed off at 6:22:40 PM.
spies6iris is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
spies6iris signed off at 6:23:50 PM.
spies6iris is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
spies6iris signed off at 6:25:24 PM.
spies6iris is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
spies6iris signed off at 6:25:45 PM.
spies6iris is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
spies6iris signed off at 6:27:43 PM.
spies6iris is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
spies6iris signed off at 6:29:06 PM.
spies6Georgia (2:37:21 AM): Haha. It did that to me in the early days with Robert.
spies6Georgia (2:37:23 AM): lol.
spies6Georgia (2:37:28 AM): But it said something different.
spies6Kirsten (2:37:41 AM): I bet
spies6Kirsten (2:37:47 AM): she was invisible
spies6Kirsten (2:38:06 AM): eh, maybe not
spies6Kirsten (2:38:13 AM): looking at others, the same thing happens to Roxy
spies6Georgia (2:38:28 AM): When she was invisible and I sent her a message, it didn't say anything about her receiving the message when signing back in.
spies6Kirsten (2:38:44 AM): ok
spies6Georgia (2:39:23 AM): Which I'm curious to know why she was invisible in the first place, and for how long.
spies6Kirsten (2:39:37 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:39:42 AM): that was what I was trying to find out
spies6Kirsten (2:39:55 AM): and I thought the spam of yellow text telling me she logged out might be useful
spies6Kirsten (2:40:09 AM): alright
spies6Kirsten (2:40:14 AM): She's rarely online
spies6Kirsten (2:40:18 AM): She claims she was sick
spies6Kirsten (2:40:23 AM): she gets caught using invisible mode
spies6Kirsten (2:40:29 AM): Spy?
spies6Kirsten (2:40:38 AM): I mean, if that isn't lurking spy, then what is?
spies6Georgia (2:41:15 AM): Haha. Uhm. wearing a cape while at it too?
spies6Georgia (2:41:44 AM): I don't see the point of going invisible unless you've got something to hide.
spies6Georgia (2:42:24 AM): Especially if you think you are going to be exiled, and you want to know why. Exile is over an hour away. Where is everyone going to be at?
spies6Kirsten (2:42:30 AM): yeah
spies6Georgia (2:42:31 AM): Spies6 room and on AIM.
spies6Kirsten (2:42:49 AM): ok, if she wanted to catch up on the burg
spies6Kirsten (2:42:54 AM): then just don't log into AIM
spies6Kirsten (2:43:08 AM): being on AIM and invisible
spies6Georgia (2:43:20 AM): Yeah. I vaguely remember seeing someone ask if someone had warned her about it.
spies6Kirsten (2:43:23 AM): = chatting with spy buddies while trying to figure out how to keep yourself from getting exiled
spies6Georgia (2:43:55 AM): If she supposedly trusts Levi and Ariel the most. Why wouldn't she speak to them?
spies6Kirsten (2:44:22 AM): I think she trusts them now, after the fact, because they are the ones who bought her role the most
spies6Kirsten (2:44:35 AM): but could be wrong about that
spies6Kirsten (2:44:36 AM): just saying
spies6Kirsten (2:45:00 AM): why would anyone trust Levi the most?
spies6Georgia (2:45:04 AM): Yeah. Well I've got questions for her when I see her next.
spies6Georgia (2:45:18 AM): Uhm, because... I don't know?
spies6Georgia (2:46:04 AM): She seemed to think him pretty citizen, at least according to when they were in a group together.
spies6Kirsten (2:46:15 AM): ok
spies6Kirsten (2:46:23 AM): and likewise he trusts her
spies6Kirsten (2:46:28 AM): so I guess that adds up
spies6Georgia (2:47:13 AM): She seemed to think him citizen, mostly because he contradicted himself a lot - and spies would try hard to be consistent.
spies6Kirsten (2:47:40 AM): funny how Donald contradicted his stance on Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (2:47:48 AM): looks like he failed the consistency test for spies
spies6Kirsten (2:47:53 AM): :-)
spies6Kirsten (2:47:59 AM): what do you think about this
spies6Georgia (2:48:05 AM): Haha.
spies6Kirsten (2:48:15 AM): Iris, didn't want to vote Yvette while she was away
spies6Kirsten (2:48:31 AM): Iris, said she would have voted Donald if she was around episode 4, even though he was away
spies6Georgia (2:49:13 AM): Don't forget, where she said she was ready to vote for you, then decided against it because she saw you were going to be away, and not able to defend yourself.
spies6Kirsten (2:49:24 AM): haha, yes
spies6Kirsten (2:49:26 AM): that too
spies6Georgia (2:49:50 AM): She voted Yvette anyways.
spies6Kirsten (2:50:17 AM): maybe she was worried that the Donald votes were going to be too many
spies6Georgia (2:50:44 AM): It is contradictory. She stated multiple times that she wouldn't vote for Yvette because she wasn't able to defend herself.
spies6Georgia (2:50:59 AM): Then says she is going to vote Amelia.
spies6Georgia (2:51:09 AM): Then changes at the last minute.
spies6Georgia (2:51:14 AM): Which, is funny too.
spies6Georgia (2:51:29 AM): because she attacked you for making a case on donald, then voting for levi.
spies6Georgia (2:51:36 AM): she then admits you had made a case for Levi as well.
spies6Georgia (2:52:07 AM): Which, just prior - she comments how if she has two suspects, she flip flops on them, not being able to make up he rmind.
spies6Kirsten (2:52:15 AM): haha
spies6Georgia (2:52:22 AM): so it is okay for her to flip flop between her suspects, but not anyone else?
spies6Georgia (2:52:39 AM): *her
spies6Georgia (2:53:51 AM): She needs to get a good grilling.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:06 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:54:18 AM): like lazy midsummer weekend day grilling
spies6Kirsten (2:54:34 AM): I'm talking invite over the friends and familiy for a grilling
spies6Georgia (2:54:43 AM): Haha. Someone needs to bring inquisition outfits.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:52 AM): I still have mine
spies6Georgia (2:55:08 AM): Haha.
spies6Georgia (2:55:22 AM): Khaled can supply his grill.
spies6Kirsten (2:55:42 AM): and a supply of brats
spies6Kirsten (2:55:51 AM): I wish I had a grill
spies6Kirsten (2:55:54 AM): as an aside
spies6Georgia (2:56:16 AM): Yes. Haha.
spies6Georgia (2:56:45 AM): I don't like the propane ones. Flames get too high.
spies6Kirsten (2:57:03 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:58:44 AM): let's say we exile Iris and she's a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:58:48 AM): what's the next step?
spies6Georgia (2:59:23 AM): See who is left after imprisonment.
spies6Kirsten (2:59:37 AM): what's the step following that step
spies6Georgia (3:01:53 AM): Hmm. Examine any possible connections between her and others. See who tried distancing themselves from her quickly.
spies6Georgia (3:02:00 AM): Hunt for more spies.
spies6Kirsten (3:02:25 AM): what connections do you see between her and others?
spies6Georgia (3:03:08 AM): Right now. Mirela and her. Ariel and her. Possibly Khaled and her. Rey.
spies6Georgia (3:03:49 AM): There is also total absence of connection. Everyone has to run into each other, and comment on one another at some point. Anyone completely avoiding another player?
spies6Kirsten (3:04:09 AM): yeah
spies6Georgia (3:05:55 AM): Where did Iris say she would've voted for Donald?
spies6Kirsten (3:06:07 AM): in her confessional post
spies6Kirsten (3:06:24 AM): Irate Iris
spies6Kirsten (3:06:33 AM): the thread that was largely ignored
spies6Kirsten (3:06:40 AM): ok
spies6Kirsten (3:06:49 AM): her "confessional" post directly addressed Khaled as "you"
spies6Kirsten (3:07:18 AM): and I don't buy her assertion she would have voted Donald
spies6Georgia (3:07:58 AM): She was jailed for many days. Yet it looked like it was created on the day she posted it.
spies6Kirsten (3:08:35 AM): yeah, it was
spies6Kirsten (3:08:43 AM): maybe she was sick
spies6Kirsten (3:08:48 AM): ;-)
spies6Georgia (3:09:31 AM): Perhaps.
spies6Georgia (3:09:57 AM): She said she didn't read my response to her question(s) about me. Yet in her "confessional", she states she is reading the burg.
spies6Georgia (3:10:00 AM): How does that happen?
spies6Georgia (3:12:01 AM): Apparently she got over her aversion to voting people out while they are away - quite quickly.
spies6Georgia (3:13:46 AM): I thought she was off the Donald case, becaus eyou voted for Levi.
spies6Kirsten (3:13:49 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (3:14:06 AM): her aversion to voting people while away didn't seem to carry over to Donald
spies6Georgia (3:14:26 AM): Nope.
spies6Georgia (3:14:30 AM): He was special.
spies6Georgia (3:15:14 AM): Well it is late. I've got to go. Talk to ya later.
spies6Georgia signed off at 3:15:27 AM
spies6Georgia signed on at 8:21:50 AM
spies6Georgia signed off at 8:52:34 AM
spies6Georgia (4:19:56 PM): I don't think Amelia was around opening day. Atleast she never went into the Spies6 room.
spies6Kirsten (4:20:45 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (4:20:48 PM): Iris is a spy
spies6Kirsten (4:20:59 PM): Georgia
spies6Kirsten (4:21:20 PM): if you got a role called "anonymous benefactor" (let's not even discuss the idea that that's not how Sam has named roles in the past)
spies6Kirsten (4:21:35 PM): and you were around opening day, like Iris was
spies6Kirsten (4:21:41 PM): would you give Amelia imprisonment immunity?
spies6Georgia (4:22:03 PM): I wouldn't.
spies6Kirsten (4:22:09 PM): wouldn't you give it to someone like Robert/Yvette/Ariel/Mei Yun
spies6Kirsten (4:22:10 PM): ?
spies6Georgia (4:22:51 PM): Though, since Iris apparently has blue hair. And she "picked" Donald because of his picture. Amelia's picture kind of fits the "image" of real Iris. I suppose.
spies6Georgia (4:23:03 PM): Other than that, I don't believe her role.
spies6Kirsten (4:23:24 PM): there are far too many inconsistencies
spies6Georgia (4:23:28 PM): There are.
spies6Kirsten (4:23:38 PM): 1. she said she had to lie, but then she went on to reveal the truth
spies6Kirsten (4:24:05 PM): 2. Her reaction to Yvette was crying over how wrong she was and how horrible of a scum hunter she was. She would not have reacted like that if her vote was swapped to Yvette by Donald
spies6Georgia (4:24:29 PM): I totally forgot about that. About her being emotional.
spies6Kirsten (4:24:33 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:24:53 PM): plus the chat where we discuss her vote on Yvette, and she talks about how wrong she was
spies6Kirsten (4:24:57 PM): things like that
spies6Georgia (4:25:21 PM): Yeah. She doesn't look so citizen.
spies6Georgia (4:25:32 PM): Well, whatever she ends up; it'll give information about Amelia.
spies6Kirsten (4:25:40 PM): damn, if only she had not shown up last exile...self votes, maybe a few more could have been swung to vote her.
spies6Georgia (4:26:02 PM): I wonder if she got a stern talking to from Sam. Her being Amelia.
spies6Kirsten (4:26:12 PM): likely so
spies6Georgia (4:26:17 PM): I think I remember Boris?, saying something about a chat with Same or something.
spies6Kirsten (4:26:24 PM): yeah
spies6Georgia (4:26:25 PM): *Sam
spies6Kirsten (4:26:28 PM): Boris had a "stern talking to"
spies6Kirsten (4:26:37 PM): and Faith as well
spies6Kirsten (4:26:40 PM): probably Amelia/pete
spies6Georgia (4:27:00 PM): Yeah.
spies6Georgia (4:27:08 PM): the major thing wrong with Amelia "confirming"
spies6Georgia (4:27:19 PM): Is that all of the information she needed to "confirm" was laid out for her.
spies6Kirsten (4:28:20 PM): do you think Amelia is a spy with Iris then
spies6Kirsten (4:28:21 PM): ?
spies6Georgia (4:29:06 PM): If Iris is a spy, then I think there is a damn good chance of Amelia being a spy.
spies6Georgia (4:29:31 PM): However.
spies6Georgia (4:29:58 PM): If they are spymates. Why would Amelia jump on a rocky ship?
spies6Kirsten (4:30:07 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (4:30:20 PM): why would Amelia tie herself to quicksand
spies6Kirsten (4:30:42 PM): with that being said, I am really skeptical over the "confirmatoin"
spies6Georgia (4:31:07 PM): The whole situation is sper sketchy.
spies6Georgia (4:31:10 PM): *super
spies6Kirsten (4:31:27 PM): Iris is lying
spies6Kirsten (4:31:35 PM): there's really no way she's telling the truth
spies6Georgia (4:31:41 PM): It doesn't help that this seems to be the time for all the craziness to come out in force.
spies6Georgia (4:31:46 PM): I don't think she is either.
spies6Georgia (4:32:12 PM): Why would Sam say roles weren't going out until day two, and that no role actions would occur until episode two. If, in reality the opposite was happening?
spies6Kirsten (4:32:25 PM): yep
spies6Georgia (4:32:57 PM): Her role doesn't seem important enough, for Sam to with hold delivering the other roles just because of hers.
spies6Georgia (4:33:25 PM): I think I'm still waiting on her to answer, how she knows about whether or not a power has been used.
spies6Kirsten (4:34:16 PM): she gets notified, obviously
spies6Kirsten (4:34:34 PM): Sam keeps tabs on the people she gives gifts to and keeps her informed
spies6Georgia (4:37:02 PM): But why would she get notified?
spies6Kirsten (4:37:15 PM): I'm being sarcastic
spies6Kirsten (4:37:20 PM): there woudl be no reason for her to get notified
spies6Georgia (4:37:28 PM): Lol.
spies6Georgia went idle at 4:54:56 PM
spies6Georgia came back from idle at 5:42:20 PM
spies6Kirsten (6:15:15 PM): your recap was excellent
spies6Kirsten (6:15:27 PM): I especially loved the "Iris picked Donald because of his FACE" part
spies6Georgia (6:15:51 PM): Haha.
spies6Georgia (6:16:49 PM): I was going to do it in my confessional. Since I know how Sam likes to hear the gossip and stuff. But figured the other viewers would like the not so serious stuff as well. xD
spies6Kirsten (6:17:17 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (6:17:18 PM): it was nice
spies6Georgia (6:22:04 PM): Would someone claim to have an imprisonment block, as a bluff - to save themselves from possible imprisonment. Or as a possible reason why they haven't been imprisoned.
spies6Georgia (6:22:11 PM): Egh, that didn't really come out right.

[Kirsten]

spies6ellis (7:35:26 PM): Now tell me why we didn't exile Levi.
spies6ellis (7:35:38 PM): TELL ME WHY WE DIDN'T EXILE GODDAMN LEVI GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!!!
spies6ellis (7:35:47 PM): --dies--
spies6Kirsten (7:36:32 PM): Ellis has died
spies6Kirsten (7:36:38 PM): he was a neutral jester
spies6ellis (7:36:43 PM): lol
spies6ellis (7:36:44 PM): 'night
spies6ellis (7:36:52 PM): Don't feel like staying up to discuss, sorry.
spies6Kirsten (7:37:22 PM): good night

[Kirsten]

spies6Boris (9:13:14 PM): i'm not going to deal with her anymore
spies6Kirsten (9:14:13 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:14:22 PM): spies6: the bitch fight
spies6Boris (9:14:41 PM): ugh
spies6Kirsten (9:15:27 PM): this game has taken a turn for the madhouse
spies6Kirsten (9:15:34 PM): like I seriously don't know what the hell is going on anymore
spies6Boris (9:15:41 PM): well
spies6Boris (9:15:59 PM): i haven't been privy to any secret information, which seems to be spreading like herpes recently
spies6Boris (9:16:09 PM): so it's funny watching everything blow up
spies6Kirsten (9:16:16 PM): yeah
spies6Boris (9:16:17 PM): and everyone at the center trying to figure out what's going on
spies6Kirsten (9:16:20 PM): I've been privy to some, but not all
spies6Kirsten (9:16:37 PM): I'm trying to figure out what's up with Iris
spies6Kirsten (9:16:39 PM): and rey
spies6Kirsten (9:16:42 PM): rey is going insane
spies6Kirsten (9:16:57 PM): he blocked me for literally no reason
spies6Boris (9:17:06 PM): you should have seen him when we were trying to talk to william earlier today
spies6Boris (9:17:26 PM): we got him in a chat to all discuss things at once, so he wouldn't be inundated by all the people talking to him
spies6Boris (9:17:40 PM): and then levi and him just go ballistic on him and drive him out of the room before he can explain himself
spies6Kirsten (9:18:37 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:18:41 PM): I saw a clip of that in the burg
spies6Boris (9:18:53 PM): i've got the whole thing if you want it
spies6Boris (9:19:15 PM): well
spies6Boris (9:19:22 PM): up until a little after william left
spies6Kirsten (9:19:32 PM): yeah, shoot that to me in a PM if you don't mind
spies6Boris (9:21:18 PM): sent
spies6Kirsten (9:21:40 PM): thanks
spies6Kirsten (9:21:46 PM): well, I think Iris is lying
spies6Boris (9:22:00 PM): i mean
spies6Boris (9:22:04 PM): yeah probably
spies6Boris (9:22:57 PM): i'm going to want to see her talk more in the burg about the role, or something
spies6Kirsten (9:23:14 PM): yeah
spies6Boris (9:29:39 PM): I'm going to sleep for reals now
spies6Boris (9:29:41 PM): good night

[Kirsten]

spies6Boris (5:26:09 AM): oh my god how are you up?
spies6Kirsten (5:26:23 AM): Boris
spies6Kirsten (5:26:26 AM): I do not sleep
spies6Kirsten (5:26:31 AM): I am a robot from the machine world
spies6Boris (5:26:34 AM): weren't you still online when i left last night
spies6Boris (5:26:36 AM): oh
spies6Boris (5:26:43 AM): well ok
spies6Kirsten (5:26:51 AM): actually, I did sleep, just not very long
spies6Kirsten (5:27:32 AM): I just wasted far too much time parodying a song in my confessional
spies6Kirsten (5:27:38 AM): I need a hobby
spies6Boris (5:27:54 AM): do you enjoy building things
spies6Boris (5:27:57 AM): or reading
spies6Kirsten (5:28:01 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (5:28:01 AM): reading
spies6Kirsten (5:28:04 AM): building things, no
spies6Boris (5:28:13 AM): maybe you should find a book to read
spies6Kirsten (5:28:29 AM): I would have to find like 10 books to read
spies6Kirsten (5:28:39 AM): I find a book, and I read it in one sitting
spies6Boris (5:29:57 AM): damn
spies6Boris (5:32:29 AM): well . . . what sort of books do you like?
spies6Kirsten (5:35:54 AM): I like fantasy books. I also like books of the Bourne Identity style. I guess you could call it action/suspense/intrigue whatever.
spies6Boris (5:37:15 AM): have you bothered with the george r. r. martin books / have you ever read any of lecarres' books?
spies6Kirsten (5:37:50 AM): never heard of lecarres. I've read the song of ice and fire series, at least hte books that have been written thus far
spies6Kirsten (5:38:08 AM): probably the best fantasy I've read, actually. Those books kicked ass
spies6Boris (5:38:22 AM): oh good, someone else that knows the plight of sitting and waiting for the next book
spies6Kirsten (5:38:28 AM): haha, yes
spies6Kirsten (5:38:38 AM): wasn't that supposed to come out like 9 years ago :-)
spies6Boris (5:38:42 AM): yes
spies6Boris (5:38:43 AM): it was
spies6Boris (5:39:05 AM): and then we got feast for crows
spies6Boris (5:39:09 AM): which is only half of the book
spies6Kirsten (5:39:42 AM): do you know the timeline for it?
spies6Kirsten (5:39:51 AM): any ideas on when he's going to write it?
spies6Boris (5:40:13 AM): i think me and my friends have accepted that he is going to die before it happens
spies6Kirsten (5:40:25 AM): haha
spies6Boris (5:40:31 AM): we know the publisher has like, two people helping him get it done
spies6Boris (5:40:36 AM): but it's not going to happen
spies6Boris (5:40:44 AM): or if it is, it's going to be the last one
spies6Kirsten (5:40:56 AM): kind of unfortunate. I really want to see how he ends it
spies6Kirsten (5:41:17 AM): there are so many different ways he could go with the story
spies6Boris (5:41:20 AM): well, a few things have been gleened from people that have probably memorized the books
spies6Boris (5:41:27 AM): like, who jons parents are
spies6Boris (5:41:37 AM): where the last dorne sister is
spies6Boris (5:41:45 AM): even though it's not really stated
spies6Kirsten (5:42:34 AM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (5:42:56 AM): yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of clues to that stuff that could be picked up on if you scrutinze every word
spies6Boris (5:43:05 AM): yeah
spies6Boris (5:44:41 AM): still, i would like to know who is going to live through everything, and who isn't
spies6Boris (5:44:54 AM): since everyone has the ability to die in those books
spies6Kirsten (5:44:54 AM): yeah, me too
spies6Kirsten (5:45:02 AM): that's what I love about the story so much
spies6Kirsten (5:46:10 AM): I remember reading the first book and seeing the out set up for how Ned was going to get out of dying, and then, whoops, he gets killed.
spies6Kirsten (5:46:13 AM): shocked me
spies6Boris (5:46:32 AM): that was a shocker, but the red wedding hit me harder then anything else in that series
spies6Kirsten (5:46:44 AM): oh yeah, definitely
spies6Boris (5:47:05 AM): i couldn't believe that many characters could just be offed like that
spies6Kirsten (5:47:18 AM): after Ned died, you just kind of assume Rob becomes the protagonist and will eventually win out, and then the red wedding happens
spies6Boris (5:47:51 AM): someone pointed out that they knew it would happen since he never had a pov chapter
spies6Boris (5:47:56 AM): still
spies6Kirsten (5:48:10 AM): hmm..yeah
spies6Kirsten (5:49:19 AM): I'd have to go with Tirion as my favorite character
spies6Boris (5:49:28 AM): haha
spies6Boris (5:49:30 AM): i love him
spies6Boris (5:49:46 AM): only because he solves all his problems in with his brain while everyone else just kills a bitch
spies6Kirsten (5:49:58 AM): yeah, exactly
spies6Boris (5:50:16 AM): you know hbo is making a pilot of that series
spies6Kirsten (5:50:29 AM): yeah, my roommate mentioned that
spies6Kirsten (5:50:44 AM): is there a date on that?
spies6Boris (5:50:56 AM): no, they're still casting
spies6Boris (5:51:07 AM): and then we'd have to wait to see if the pilot gets picked up
spies6Boris (5:51:10 AM): though it probably will
spies6Kirsten (5:51:26 AM): yeah, I wouldn't see why not
spies6Boris (5:51:43 AM): that's a picture of who's playing tyrion
spies6Boris (5:51:48 AM): i think he was the first cast
spies6Boris (5:52:10 AM): actually
spies6Boris (5:52:36 AM): pics.livejournal.com/grrm/pic/0004gbgk
spies6Boris (5:52:39 AM): there, way easier
spies6Boris (5:52:43 AM): don't have to send anything
spies6Kirsten (5:53:03 AM): hah, nice

[Kirsten]

pies6Kirsten (7:09:36 PM): Hello Ariel
spies6Ariel (7:09:57 PM): Hello, Kirsten.
spies6Kirsten (7:10:17 PM): I have a question for you, winter queen
spies6Ariel (7:10:28 PM): I'll do my best to answer, summer queen.
spies6Kirsten (7:10:34 PM): I recall you agreeing with me that Faith was probably a citizen. Yet you voted her anyway? Why?
spies6Ariel (7:10:47 PM): To save William and Iris.
spies6Kirsten (7:11:29 PM): William due to the info he told you and Tiberius, and Iris...?
spies6Ariel (7:11:47 PM): Because she claimed at the last minute, and at that time I saw no reason to disbelieve her.
spies6Kirsten (7:12:07 PM): so, prior to Iris' claim where you still on Faith?
spies6Kirsten (7:12:16 PM): and by where, I clearly mean were :-)
spies6Ariel (7:12:29 PM): Clearly. :-P
spies6Ariel (7:13:02 PM): And yes, I was, because I still found Iris more citizen-like than Faith.
spies6Ariel (7:13:14 PM): However, I wasn't nearly as sure my vote would remain on Faith until Iris claimed.
spies6Kirsten (7:13:14 PM): lesser of two evils?
spies6Ariel (7:13:19 PM): That's it exactly.
spies6Kirsten (7:13:24 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (7:13:35 PM): so what are your thoughts on Iris now?
spies6Kirsten (7:13:41 PM): what do you think about her claim?
spies6Ariel (7:13:46 PM): I'm dying to hear from Amelia.
spies6Ariel (7:13:55 PM): And I'm not sure I believe the part about her role requiring her to lie.
spies6Kirsten (7:14:53 PM): how about this:
spies6Kirsten (7:15:02 PM): Her role requires her to lie
spies6Kirsten (7:15:08 PM): so she tells a lie about the power she gives Donald
spies6Kirsten (7:15:31 PM): (ignoring for a second that she only claimed this "have to lie" part after she got called out on the contradiction of Sam not showing parts of people's confessionals)
spies6Kirsten (7:15:49 PM): She then goes on to tell what power she actually gave Donald
spies6Kirsten (7:15:55 PM): but...I thought she had to lie about it?
spies6Kirsten (7:15:58 PM): Apparently not?
spies6Ariel (7:16:53 PM): A lot of whether or not I trust Iris depends on Amelia right now.
spies6Kirsten (7:17:38 PM): even if it can be proven that Iris is not telling the truth?
spies6Ariel (7:18:00 PM): I said "a lot". I didn't say "all".
spies6Kirsten (7:18:10 PM): ok
spies6Ariel (7:18:22 PM): Also, when did you hear about William's role?
spies6Kirsten (7:18:26 PM): what made you think Iris was a citizen previously?
spies6Kirsten (7:18:32 PM): Tiberius slipped it to me
spies6Ariel (7:18:42 PM): Gut feeling, and her chats with me in the beginning of the game.
spies6Ariel (7:18:48 PM): Tiberius did? I wonder if he got permission.
spies6Kirsten (7:18:52 PM): on Saturday. I sent William a PM asking him if this was a reason I should not vote him. He gave me a few nibblets of information that was it
spies6Kirsten (7:19:36 PM): Tiberius was under the impression that I was already told about it. William didn't seem very happy that Tiberius couldn't keep his mouth shut
spies6Kirsten (7:20:02 PM): I don't think it was a permission to slip kind of deal
spies6Ariel (7:20:04 PM): I wouldn't be either.
spies6Kirsten (7:20:12 PM): haha, nor I
spies6Kirsten (7:20:18 PM): i want to talk more to William
spies6Ariel (7:20:26 PM): Did he tell you about Rey/Levi?
spies6Kirsten (7:20:30 PM): He's a suspect of mine. I want to know whether I can trust him and his claim
spies6Kirsten (7:20:38 PM): yeah, that was the only thing I was told
spies6Kirsten (7:20:47 PM): he didn't even say he had a role, just mentioned the rey/levi deal
spies6Kirsten (7:22:09 PM): I'm curious more about Iris. How often did the two of you talk? You ranked her 20th you said? That's really low.
spies6Ariel (7:22:35 PM): Well, it's not like it was easy to pick who I thought was, say, 17th-most suspicious.
spies6Kirsten (7:22:45 PM): haha, right
spies6Ariel (7:22:46 PM): And we talked quite a lot in the beginning, but not so much lately.
spies6Kirsten (7:22:49 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (7:23:52 PM): You two disagreed on Callahan, though, right?
spies6Ariel (7:24:02 PM): Apparently.
spies6Kirsten (7:24:34 PM): but she was cit nonetheless?
spies6Ariel (7:24:51 PM): Callahan was a 'he'.
spies6Kirsten (7:25:07 PM): I meant your opinion of Iris was cit nonetheless?
spies6Ariel (7:26:18 PM): Yes. Otherwise I wouldn't have been okay with her being in on the Yvette/Robert plan.
spies6Kirsten (7:26:31 PM): right, right.
spies6Ariel (7:40:23 PM): Gotta go for a while. Back later.
spies6Ariel went away at 7:40:30 PM
spies6Ariel returned at 9:56:18 PM
spies6Ariel (9:56:24 PM): *poke*
spies6Kirsten (9:57:48 PM): receives poke
spies6Ariel (9:57:58 PM): I'm back.
spies6Kirsten (9:58:21 PM): welcome back
spies6Kirsten (9:58:30 PM): :-)
spies6Ariel (9:58:36 PM): :-)
spies6Kirsten (9:59:01 PM): what about your early chats with Iris gave you a cit read? I'm still trying to understand that
spies6Ariel (9:59:13 PM): Just a strong feeling I got.
spies6Kirsten (10:00:15 PM): indescribable strong feelings, eh?
spies6Kirsten (10:00:18 PM): :-)
spies6Ariel (10:00:23 PM): :-P
spies6Ariel (10:00:34 PM): You've never had one?
spies6Kirsten (10:01:41 PM): well, I get feelings people are cits or spies based on gut
spies6Kirsten (10:01:56 PM): but there is always a reason behind gut, whether you figure it out or not
spies6Ariel (10:02:36 PM): Good to know.
spies6Kirsten (10:03:03 PM): let's say there are 2 spies in your group of 5
spies6Kirsten (10:03:14 PM): your group of 5 meaning the remaining members of your orignal team
spies6Kirsten (10:03:16 PM): who are they?
spies6Ariel (10:03:22 PM): You and Rey ask me the same questions all the time, you know
spies6Ariel (10:03:24 PM): Mirela and Iris
spies6Kirsten (10:03:43 PM): Rey and I are spies together, and we like to coordinate our questionings
spies6Ariel (10:03:49 PM): I know
spies6Ariel (10:03:55 PM): I'm Paris's female counterpart
spies6Kirsten (10:04:04 PM): sounds traitorous
spies6Kirsten (10:04:22 PM): speaking of Paris, I was looking at the vote history, and if Iris is a spy, then Paris voted for 2 spies in 2 rounds
spies6Ariel (10:04:28 PM): Haha
spies6Kirsten (10:04:33 PM): looks like he failed :-)
spies6Kirsten (10:04:44 PM): why Mirela?
spies6Kirsten (10:04:50 PM): (and likewise, why not khaled/thor)
spies6Ariel (10:05:25 PM): Mirela for not being around this episode, and for a lot of defensiveness, I've noted. Apparently there's some speculation dealing with her activities during Future Week as well.