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Post by Jason on Jun 17, 2009 15:45:51 GMT -5
So... To do list (In no particular order):
(Checks edited at end of episode for progress)
Kill William. - Check
Kill Jenya. - Fake check
Kill Kirsten.
Frame Rey. - Check
Frame Georgia.
Frame/kill Khaled.
It's a pleasant line of thinking.
Jenya's time has run out. She must die. William, too, although he's not as much of a threat because people won't trust him/listen to him as much. If Jenya wants to turn the tide on me she can; people will follow her. I can't have that for obvious reasons (There's something about getting Exiled that seems non-beneficial to me in this game) so i must survive this round as Amelia almost certainly dies, and get rid of Jenya next.
Where does William fall into all of this? Well, his role is useless unless a citizen idles out. Now, Oswald is a definite threat to idle out, but because I happen to know that Williams next investigation is "Is ___ a citizen without a role?" I know that it doesn't place me in any danger at all and it's unlikely that he would choose Pete.
Thus Jenya is an immediate threat. William is not.
So why Khaled? Why Kirsten?
Khaled because he has a role and there's always the chance that Jenya might try to turn him against me. We can't have that. If Jenya goes and he picks up her torch he must go before to torch is able to shine its light in the right direction.
Kirsten? She's getting too much clout in the Burg. The only clout should belong to the Spies. It's not so much the threat of her suspicions being accurate as it is the threat of her having the ability to get people to vote for us if she gets lucky with one of us.
As for the frameups.... I think Rey will be a pretty easy frame, especially if Jenya gets Imprisoned because he knew about her role and has been douche-y enough to people in the Burg that they'll be pre-disposed towards exiling him. Not to mention Ariel would love to go after him.
Georgia is along the same lines, only I've noticed that several Citizens have had her on their radar for the last few rounds, meaning it might be easy to get a push on her. Of course, I'd rather someone else make the actual push.
Anyway, I REALLY regret not Imprisoning Jenya this episode. Now that I think about it that would have been the most dastardly and underhanded Spy thing to do. Unfortunately for me I don't always think in terms of dastardliness, so it didn't happen :/
But... There's always the next night.
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 17, 2009 15:59:09 GMT -5
Thank you for your thoughts. As always I love reading these, and your interviews with your other characters are hilarious.
I'm really enjoying having you play the game Trey which comes as no surprise to me whatsoever! Hope you are having fun too. =)
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Post by Jason on Jun 17, 2009 18:38:35 GMT -5
Lol I'm glad you enjoy it! That's the main reason I try to come up with fun confessionals so that you get more perks to hosting ; D
Now if only Johan can save me from impending doom in the near future...
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 18, 2009 6:58:24 GMT -5
I guess I'm just confused with Jenya... can you explain to me why Jenya is such a threat when there are other far more confirmed citizens with clout out there who know you guys far better than she?
From Pete's citizen database thread...
Current Suspects:
As of Round 5 - Faith, William, Ariel, Rey, Boris, Kirsten
SCAR: 0 out of 10
Does it have to do with her role and catching you out? I thought you've done a spectacular job of avoiding that so far, and as were into Episode 7 now, that double stuff is going away.
Not seeing the 'Jenya must go now or all is doomed' angle here haha.
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Post by Jason on Jun 18, 2009 11:04:48 GMT -5
She's just SO PARANOID about everything... it's like one minute she's operating as if I'm a citizen and the next she's operating as if I'm a Spy... Eventually she's going to operate the Spy angle to the wrong person and Jason will be a dead Mofo...
Or maybe I'm the one being paranoid? Either way, there's some serious paranoia going on somewhere :/
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Post by Jason on Jun 18, 2009 23:34:36 GMT -5
Damn it DC next time I'm a Spy I'm paying you off before the game to post a list of non Spies as your suspects -_-
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Post by Jason on Jun 19, 2009 22:28:45 GMT -5
It's so hard to act offended and hurt by Georgia in the Burg... I'm planning on having an emotional break down next episode where I just unload all sorts of feelings onto someone that I don't usually talk to... That's going to be fun!
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Post by Jason on Jun 20, 2009 1:43:39 GMT -5
I just thought this was quote worthy for the lulz ; D  |
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Post by Jason on Jun 20, 2009 1:59:30 GMT -5
The Creation and Legacy of Jason: Learning to Spy By Not Spying
Episode Four
"And this is... How do you say, very a difficult maneuver to consider as Spy because of the risks involved. You must only use in a gravy situation."I think you mean... A grave situation? "This is what I said, no?"....No! "Always the less, it is okay, Jason, for I shall teach you the things that you are want to know for spying good."Ok cool, so... what's the secret? "First thing you must do is find a beautiful lady whose eyes glisten as the sun and whose smile brings joy to the hearts of both children and murderers. She must so be wonderful that you lament every second that is not spent among her. You must give your heart to her, Jason."And... This is supposed to help me become a good Spy? "Have you not seen the movie... the one James Bond? He gets many kitty cats, this is the saying, right?"I uh.... think you mean he gets pussy, but... I really don't want to think about that at the moment... "Yes, this is the correct. Alas, you too must get the... the pussy, if you are to become good Spy. If you have women at your side, a lovely, miraculous women whose words ring loud and true with the glory of a long past saint, you will be much stronger and safer."But Johan, if I become close to a lady what if she gets to know me well enough to know when I'm lying?
"Oh, no, Jason, lying is prohibit! You must not under a circumstance lie to your beloved! You must misguide her with your speak so that she is unaware but not with the deceits. If she trusts you she will work with you, and with this you create team of powerful people who shall last throughout the game and all eternity as one true love. Oh, Candy, how I miss you..."So your strategy is to become close with one person and share information together? You believe that if we form a close relationship as far as game activities go that I'll be able to ride the relationship far into the game until it's time to get rid of her? "Get rid of her? You wish to get rid of my wonderful Candy? Away from me, bad man, for you challenge my very honor with your statements!"No... I... I don't mean... Candy or whoever, I mean in this game. When I'm done with using the person to gain information and safety I can remove her. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am, you know?
"Jason... The things which you are speaking of bring me good uncertainty. Alas, though I am trouble of your words I must help you none the less. You use the one true love not to be used, but to love and cherish for all your days. And with this love comes getting far into the game, and hopefully victory. You must never plot against or cheat!"I'm not sure if I'm old enough for that kind of commitment yet, Johan... But I'll do my best to retain honor.
"Ah, this is very well then. I hope you good chance, my friend."Thanks... I think?
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Post by Jason on Jun 20, 2009 3:03:39 GMT -5
We need more JACKALS in this game... Carly/Todd, where are you!?!?
I'm tired, I shouldn't be awake, and that means it's the perfect time to Confessionalize!
BITCH MOTHER FUCKERS! Citizens are going to perish. Testicles will be wrung, shit will be flung, breasts will be gnawed and asses will be pawed.
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE MOFOCITY THAT'S COMING YOUR WAY!
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE! I'm going to leave a trail of flailing, battered citizens. I'll massacre the Burg. They must suffer for they have awakened the mighty Mofo within my evil side of doom. There will be no more nice Spy in this game. There will be no more dormant peasantry. NO DAMN IT! You're all going to be obliterated.
It's time to get hardcore up in this motherfucker. Oh shit, that's right, I said it. HARD CORE! Like porn only instead of double penetration it'll be double Imprison the shit out of your face.
FIRST we kick the cunt Jenya to the curb because she makes me paranoid and must die. A MOTHER BEAR DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN YOU WALK NEAR HER CUBS! Your NOSE has been sniffing around my cubs for way too long and I can't tolerate that anymore, so I'm sorry but I have to eat you.
THEN we maul William and lacerate his face to the point where he needs OVER 9000 stitches. Bitch you don't even know what's coming for you, but it's going to come harder than a 12 year old virgin boy at a strip club. I definitely just went there.
FOLLOWED BY fist fucking the shit out of Tiberius' ass because he needs to lose weight. The albatross flies high and it's time to swoop in and catch a fish and eat it. NOBODY thinks you're a Spy. WTF are you still doing here? Oh, you're going to last until the end game just dancing along being cool and happy and not in any danger? NOT ANYMORE! You shall die. I can't have confirmed citizens in my Burg. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHER FUCKING CONFIRMED CITIZENS ON THIS MOTHER FUCKING BURG!
LEADING TO the untimely demise of Oswald. Instead of Imprisoning him we're going to just amputate his testicles.
Holy shit I'm going to hell for that... I'm sorry Oswald. I'll leave the fluff descriptions at that.
WHICH BRINGS US TO gently massaging Gretchen in ways that awaken feelings inside of her that she didn't know existed. Her sexy ample arms will shake like jello, stretched over her head as she eases down onto my firm .... WTF!?!?!? We'll cut her up and sell her to a bacon store.
In between these brutal FUCKINGS of course people will be gang banged and removed from the Burg. ARIEL, THOR, REY, you must ALL DIE TO THE PUBLIC!! Oh, and Amelia, she's as good as dead and I don't see ANY way to save her. She was dead before the Iris role connection thing but now she's extra dead.
Like Jerry Seinfeld says:
George: You're gonna "overdry" it.
Jerry: You, you can't "overdry".
George: Why not?
Jerry: Same as you can't "overwet". You see, once something is wet, it's wet. Same thing with dead: like once you die you're dead, right? Let's say you drop dead and I shoot you: you're not gonna die again, you're already dead. You can't "overdie", you can't "overdry".
Amelia won't overdry OR overdie because she's already dead. So it's okay if I shoot her... I hope.
I'm keeping Khaled for now. Actually I probably won't.
Sleep time KGO.
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Post by Jason on Jun 20, 2009 3:06:24 GMT -5
THEN we maul William and lacerate his face to the point where he needs OVER 9000 stitches. Bitch you don't even know what's coming for you, but it's going to come harder than a 12 year old virgin boy at a strip club. I definitely just went there. ....Just to clarify, by "went there" I mean breaching the issue, not going to a strip club where 12 year old boys come. |
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Post by Jason on Jun 20, 2009 13:25:32 GMT -5
From Amelia's post:
Errr... Did you clear that with me first? Just last night I told people that our chats DIDN'T go in depth or have much substance. Now you're basically putting me in a position where I have to either stick my neck out and cover for you and probably die with you or call you on it and bus you. Sorry, but when it comes down to it I've got to protect my own interests. You're currently liability for the greater Mofo good and I can't have that.
And even if I call you on it that draws unnecessary attention to myself that I REALLY don't need at the moment. I mean once they notice that you only made up your facts with me (because others can confirm that you didn't... I doubt you did anyway) they'll have to wonder why...
AAAAAARRRRGGGGGGG!
Amelia must die.
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Post by Jason on Jun 20, 2009 13:27:57 GMT -5
Not to mention the fact that if you're asked to produce these 'in depth' chats about suspicions... an INEVITABLE occurrence, you won't be able to produce them. You'll have to scramble and hope I'm online to fake conversations and I don't know that I'd even want to bother trying.
Grrrr
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Post by Jason on Jun 22, 2009 0:11:01 GMT -5
I need to take a chill pill.
Anyway, things are going grrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAT for the Spies right now. Thor is going to get pushed into Exile over Amelia. Wait, is that good or bad? -_-
The obvious benefit is that we get rid of a Cit. Right now we have 14 Cits and 3 Spies. It'll be down to 13-3. That leaves us needing 5 misexiles...
I think we go with Rey after Thor, or Amelia. Imprisonment-wise we need to get Kirsten first and then Ariel IMO. Take out two well-established Citizens that are both active. How can we go wrong?
So, Thor and Amelia, Kirsten and Ariel. That leaves us with
Pete and Jason
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Mirela, Rey, Jenya, Georgia, Roxy, Khaled, Boris, Gretchen, Levi, Oswald, Tiberius.
Frame Mirela for leading the Thor charge. Imprison Tiberius.
Frame Rey for outing Jenya's role. Imprison Jenya.
Pete and Jason
VS
Georgia, Roxy, Khaled, Boris, Gretchen, Levi, Oswald
That's a manageable situation for sure. I'm positive we can snipe an exile of Gretchen or Boris at that point and if we do so...
Exile Gretchen. Imprison Levi.
Exile Boris. Imprison Georgia.
left with...
Pete and Jason
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Roxy, Khaled, Oswald.
This is where things get tricky. Not due to difficulty, but due to my Master Mofo's grand design...
I'm supposed to be the LONE Spy victor. I'm supposed to take this game down to the very end and win it because that's what my Master Mofo instructed.
But Pete doesn't deserve that, at all. So... Rather than bussing Pete by voting with Khaled and one of the other two Citizens I'll have to get rid of Roxy or Oswald and then it's game over.
I think the future path to victory is clear; now we must simply set our feet into motion.
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Post by Jason on Jun 22, 2009 0:13:56 GMT -5
* - What would be even better is if someone ELSE points out Rey's outing of Jenya because then we can frame Rey for outing Jenya, Imprison Jenya, and Frame the accuser of Rey's framing Jenya.
; D
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Post by Jason on Jun 24, 2009 22:34:43 GMT -5
Kirsten = Candy. It must be so. I've been tempted to go Johan on her for a sec and see how she reacts, but obviously that would be a bad idea.
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 25, 2009 12:18:39 GMT -5
you can post whatever in your confessional but especially at live chats could you tone down the past spies games discussion... there are barely any people at all that played 1 spies game, and even if there was that happened a year ago ya know going for the whole new thing, you know how it works.  i know it is tempting when someone mentions delilah to post about it. but sometimes i think even if there were only 2 people out of 18 who played spies 5 we'd still be plagued with catchphrases from it! |
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Post by Jason on Jun 25, 2009 13:04:20 GMT -5
Definitely, that's probably a bad idea from me -_- it's just so fun to talk about past games! But I'll do my best...
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Post by Jason on Jun 25, 2009 13:47:33 GMT -5
*Theme Music Plays*
Master Mofo - Weeelll, yo yo yo, what's happenin' all you young mother fuckers out there, I'd like to welcome you to a very Crunk version of the most bitchin' show in the universe! We're here with mah homeboy Jason the Spy-dizzle to talk about how shit be gettin' crazy up in his hood. Jason, sup man?
Jason the Spy-Dizzle - Err... I'm OK, but I'm not feeling this gangster version...
Master Mofo - Now Jason, you don't have to be so negative all the time...
Jasonizzle - I know... I'm sorry, I'll try to do better.
Master Mofo - Aight, so this episode was great for you. First of all, you Imprisoned a Cit with a role, second of all, you exiled a Cit, third of all, you implicated several Citizens into impending Exiles, and fourth of all, you garnered more of Jenya's trust. Is there anything you didn't do?
Jasonizzle - Well, I didn't get laid.
Master Mofo - Oh... Well the other stuff doesn't really matter then... But lets talk about it anyway?
Jasonizzle - Sure.
Master Mofo - First; what sparked the decision to Imprison William and fake Imprison Jenya?
Jasonizzle - Well, imprisoning William was an easy decision... 1. He had a role. 2. Enough people knew he had a role that it couldn't be traced to me. It's a win win situation. As for Jenya... The plan was to get Rey to blab her role the second she was gone to make him look bad.... And uh... within 40 seconds of Jenya being Imprisoned Rey had announced to the Burg that Jenya was the real Protector. Can we say NAILED? Predicting Rey is like predicting a fight between a black belt and a toddler. He did exactly what we wanted him to do and should get nailed for it.
Master Mofo - Do you think there's any chance that he saves himself and gets out of this mess?
Jasonizzle - Well, Khaled's recent post that exiling Rey is a 'very bad idea' makes me worry... But ultimately Rey's going to die. I'm sure of it. Plus, I have a backup plan to get rid of him if absolutely necessary but it's not something I'd use unless it would secure an otherwise unwinnable game.
Master Mofo - And wha'ts that?
Jasonizzle - Exile Pete, show that he's a Spy, and then Rey has to defend himself for defending Pete so strongly.
Master Mofo - Obviously that's NOT an option right now...
Jasonizzle - Oh, no. That's absolutely desperation scenario where it wins or loses the game. I'd expect Pete to do the same to me if it meant victory for the Spies over defeat... But it won't be necessary.
Master Mofo - Speaking of bussing fellow Spies, you've managed to save Amelia for the time being... Are you happy? You told her you are.
Jasonizzle - I am, actually. I think that she's going to die eventually but it's great to have her around. It's not that I dislike Amelia; she's fun to talk to when she's around, but she hasn't taken actions with her fellow Spies in mind and she's put us in potentially awkward situations in the past... I'm still afraid something might happen again. But I'd love to see the three of us win this game.
Master Mofo - Good to see the change of heart... Moving along, the Thor exile was pretty easy, wasn't it?
Jasonizzle - Well... I sat back, agreed, PM'ed a few conversations, and won. Yeah... I'd say it was pretty easy. Honestly Mirela got things going, Kirsten helped keep them going, and I fueled the fire when I felt the need to. Basically Mirela and Kirsten take the heat and I take the advantage.
Master Mofo - I think it was a wise move. And you think that Mirela and Kirsten will be exiled now?
Jasonizzle - Well, I think they CAN be. I don't expect Mirela to go for at least a few rounds. Kirsten is a possibility and I really hope she goes, but that's going to be on Jenya to get it done. I hope she comes through for us.
Master Mofo - She usually does. Does Jenya remind you of any Spies 5 Players?
Jaosnizzle - Sam's going to hate us for talking about this! But yeah, I'm pretty sure that Jenya is Otto from Spies 5. Same affinity for being genuinely wrong about suspicious but with good cases on those suspected, and said "Oh pickles" when fake Imprisoned.
Master Mofo - Well, does that knowledge give you any advantages?
Jasonizzle - Not really, no.
Master Mofo - Well... then, how are you feeling about the future?
Jasonizzle - Well, it's not Futures week... But I feel great. I mapped out a list of the 5 people we need to Imprison and the 5 people that we should strive to Exile. If we accomplish those two lists... We win.
Master Mofo - I do hope that you'll be able to see this through, Jason. We have faith in you!
Jasonizzle - Hey, it's me we're talking about here. I don't get Exiled.
Master Mofo - Well, we can all attest to that! Thanks to Jason for coming to talk to us; tune in next week to see if the Rey plan pays off!
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Post by Kirsten on Aug 24, 2009 2:09:54 GMT -5
"I'm pretty sure that Jenya is Otto from Spies 5. Same affinity for being genuinely wrong about suspicious but with good cases on those suspected, and said "Oh pickles" when fake Imprisoned. " It's an acquired taste. Good cases with generally wrong suspicions. If anyone wants to learn the ways, you have only to ask. Jenya must have been a secret pupil of mine . I'm not sure how to feel about Jason (and Ellis, if I recall) comparing me to Candy. I'm hoping that is a good thing. |
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Post by Judge Sam on Aug 24, 2009 11:39:21 GMT -5
It's a very good thing!
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Post by sluticia on Aug 24, 2009 16:06:02 GMT -5
alol
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Post by Ellis on Aug 24, 2009 16:55:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure how to feel about Jason (and Ellis, if I recall) comparing me to Candy. I'm hoping that is a good thing. It's a mixed bag, at least from me. Lemme see... Candy was a superstar citizen in Spies 4. She was either loved or hated by just about everybody, sometimes causing people to swing wildly from one extreme to another. She wasn't the kind of citizen you could or would ever ignore. And she led four citizen exiles. The thing about Candy was that she was an excellent nuclear missile, but she needed someone to direct her. That "someone" turned out to be the citizen who tops my list of citizens who combine extreme likeability with formidable strategic know-how, Summer. (Played by our very own DC btw, which was one of the biggest shocks I'd ever had in this game. I could NEVER have predicted that alias. If I thought DC was anybody, I would've thought it was Candy herself.) It was VERY noticeable that when Candy separated from Summer she was far more likely to do something really really bad for the citizens as a whole. Sitting in the loser's lounge, I got the impression late on that Summer was Candy's evil genius the whole way through. I still think that's a fair assessment. Soooooo... Candy could make a huge impact, but she wasn't a thinker. Her suspect lists were frequently way off base and she needed someone to direct her on what to do and where to go. Having said that, she was fantastic at putting together an exile and getting people voting the way she wanted. A doer, not a thinker. How this reflects on you, Brian... rather unfairly I think. Although I did often say in the Loser's Lounge that I thought you needed guidance as to what to do with all that energy of yours, the fact is that in the case of Donald at least you were dead right from very early on, and the roles seemed to be reversed there - you had people like me acting as your pitbull and doing what you thought, not the other way around. (Not that I suspected Donald because of anything you said, but I certainly wouldn't have had the confidence to go after him if it hadn't have been for you.) So while the comparison has positive and negative connotations, I feel that the negative ones might be a bit unfair on you. Of course, to J. S. Candy is a Goddess in human form, so feel free to take his interpritation as well. |
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Post by Jason on Aug 24, 2009 18:18:53 GMT -5
"I'm pretty sure that Jenya is Otto from Spies 5. Same affinity for being genuinely wrong about suspicious but with good cases on those suspected, and said "Oh pickles" when fake Imprisoned. " It's an acquired taste. Good cases with generally wrong suspicions. If anyone wants to learn the ways, you have only to ask. Jenya must have been a secret pupil of mine . I'm not sure how to feel about Jason (and Ellis, if I recall) comparing me to Candy. I'm hoping that is a good thing. Candy is Johan's beloved, of course it's a good thing! She has her own song!! I was hungry :"( |
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Post by Kirsten on Aug 24, 2009 19:16:29 GMT -5
You are pretty much correct, Ellis. I needed my citizen support group and floundered around without them. Also, having people suspect me as heavily (or at least as publicly) as they did hurt me a bit, I'm not going to lie. When nobody trusts you, it's difficult to accomplish anything, and without people to work with, I was struggling to find spies, making me exile more citizens, making me even more suspect. It was a vicious cycle.
My main regret in exiling Rey was that I needed someone who trusted me. Ariel/Tiberius/William's imprisonments hurt for that same reason.
I'll go with Judge Sam's interpretation though!
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Jason, I love how you planned everything out. Honestly, I find that to be the mark of a great scum player. You were always aware of exactly what needed to be done for you to win and you went out and accomplished it. You were definitely deserving of the win because you actually played it perfectly and earned it. It didn't just fall into your lap.
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Post by Jason on Aug 24, 2009 20:41:35 GMT -5
Jason, I love how you planned everything out. Honestly, I find that to be the mark of a great scum player. You were always aware of exactly what needed to be done for you to win and you went out and accomplished it. You were definitely deserving of the win because you actually played it perfectly and earned it. It didn't just fall into your lap.    |
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Post by Mei Yun on Aug 25, 2009 20:45:33 GMT -5
The thing about Candy was that she was an excellent nuclear missile, but she needed someone to direct her. That "someone" turned out to be the citizen who tops my list of citizens who combine extreme likeability with formidable strategic know-how, Summer. When you said this in the LL, it was an interesting insight to what happened in Spies 4. Not to take credit away from Candy, but knowing that she was perceived that way (I thought people trusted her 101%) and that she was not entirely behind her way of thinking is really interesting. I loved how you described this idea as a "nuclear missile". |
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Post by Jason on Aug 26, 2009 0:26:55 GMT -5
THERE SHALL BE NOTHING LESS THAN THE UTMOST OF PRAISE FOR JOHAN'S CANDY IN THIS THREAD OF HIS PREDECESSOR!
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