Episode 1: Conversations

[Iris]

Have to practice cut/paste from AIM!

[Iris]

IM History with buddy spies6Ariel
Sunday, May 17, 2009
spies6Ariel (11:36:21 PM): I don't know about you, but I'm really hoping Mei Yun misses the deadline via her spamming.
spies6Ariel (11:36:29 PM): Mostly because I think it'd be funny. :-)
spies6iris (11:37:07 PM): That would be funny! :-) It's bugging me a tiny bit, because seriously, I could get my cat to post like that! But mostly I want you, me or Faith to win.
spies6Ariel (11:37:14 PM): Because we're all in the same Union?
spies6iris (11:37:19 PM): Yes.
spies6Ariel (11:37:25 PM): Understandable.
spies6Ariel (11:37:35 PM): We three make up half the players in the running, by the way.
spies6iris (11:37:46 PM): I know, any of us can be Spies, whih would be bad, but in the absence of any real knowledge, yet...
spies6iris (11:37:49 PM): I have Union pride!
spies6Ariel (11:37:54 PM): Haha, Union pride!

[Iris]

Sunday, May 17, 2009
spies6iris (12:50:12 PM): Oops, I lost the chat room!
Monday, May 18, 2009
spies6iris (3:13:39 PM): Do you have any suspects on our team? I have a good suspect, I believe, but she's not in our Union. So far the people I've met from our team (you, Yvette, and Ariel) aren't pinging me.
spies6Robert (3:17:56 PM): your good suspect is in team 426264 right?
spies6iris (3:18:14 PM): I'm confusing the numbers.
spies6Robert (3:18:17 PM): as i said, i suspect ed somewhat
spies6iris (3:18:33 PM): I missed that, must have been before I entered. My good suspect is Georgia.
spies6Robert (3:18:41 PM): bingo
spies6iris (3:18:43 PM): I have only said hello to Ed, nothing more.
spies6iris (3:18:47 PM): Okay, good.
spies6Robert (3:18:54 PM): Georgina is as evil as they come
spies6Robert (3:18:55 PM): :-P
spies6iris (3:19:04 PM): LOL, okay, good.
spies6Robert (3:19:23 PM):
spies6Robert (19:29:27): oh, and Georgia... if I happen to dissapear early at night, watch her well.

spies6Robert (19:29:38): When she was my partner in the mafia game, she was almost non contributory


spies6Robert (19:29:54): yet in the second game, as an innocent, came out firm, with a strong stance.
spies6Robert (3:19:29 PM): when i was talking to yvette earlier:p
spies6iris (3:19:45 PM): You think she's dangerous then? Let me tell you why I suspect her, it was from the chat you missed last night.
spies6Robert (3:19:54 PM): yeah?
spies6iris (3:20:45 PM): When Sam announced to us the endurance competition (I assume you've heard about it by now?)...
spies6Robert (3:20:57 PM): yeah
spies6iris (3:21:01 PM): Georgia responded, "It would be terrible to let power get outside the hands of Spies."
spies6iris (3:21:19 PM): So I called her on it..."Georgia, it would be terrible to let it get OUTSIDE the hands of Spies?"
spies6iris (3:21:31 PM): And then Ariel said, "Did you mean to say inside the hands of Spies?"
spies6iris (3:21:42 PM): Now, it could be a simple typo. But she never responded to either of us.
spies6iris (3:22:04 PM): She ignored the question, and then started chitchatting about other stuff shortly afterwards.
spies6iris (3:22:19 PM): If she'd responded, it wouldn't have bugged me so much, but the not responding stuck with me.
spies6Robert (3:23:27 PM): Nice catch :-)
spies6Robert (3:23:39 PM): That's three seperate cases i've seen on her today. One from me
spies6Robert (3:23:46 PM): all 100% different
spies6iris (3:25:19 PM): That's pretty damning.
spies6iris (3:25:28 PM): Now, why are you suspecting Ed?
spies6Robert (3:25:40 PM): yvette doesnt like how she attacked her and ariel for trying to decypher the blueprint, I dont like how she played weak and spineless as my partner in chat mafia, but then seemed the oposite, a strong opinionated player (albeit totally wrong and rather dumb) when innocent.
spies6iris (3:26:02 PM): Okay, that's true, I'm seeing that too, almost like two different people are playing.
spies6Robert (3:26:03 PM): Ed isnt nearly so damning as our friend Georgia.
spies6iris (3:26:13 PM): We can't vote for her, YET, though, can we?
spies6Robert (3:26:24 PM): nah afraid not
spies6Robert (3:26:33 PM): Ed is just that he was really pumping me for information yesterday
spies6Robert (3:26:42 PM): asked m what i thought of everything and everyone
spies6Robert (3:26:48 PM): when i pushed back for his opinions, he clammed up
spies6Robert (3:27:18 PM): i told him at the time he'd look bad if roles were out, and he laughed it off rather ubnconvincingly with a joke
spies6iris (3:29:13 PM): Hmm, that's interesting. Never having played in this live format before, I'm not sure how to read that sort of thing. I almost screwed up very badly the other day by accidentally giving out one of my off-board aliases.
spies6Robert (3:30:13 PM): ouch
spies6Robert (3:30:26 PM): so far i'm being careful to hide all but the enar unhidable, namely my timezone :-P
spies6Robert (3:30:35 PM): ^near
spies6Robert (3:30:51 PM): that said, the terminology i use tends to point towards wherei usually play
spies6iris (3:33:14 PM): Well, there's so much else to do here that I doubt people would have the time to go look that up, but mine was more blatant than that...the other day when we were in that chat and I said I'd almost accidentally deleted my account? Pete messaged me...
spies6iris (3:34:32 PM): and said, "You're not supposed to have had an account last night..." and I almost wrote, "No, not this account, the XXXXXXXX one..." Had the name typed out, remembered just before I hit send.
spies6Robert (3:37:07 PM): lol
spies6iris (3:38:35 PM): All right, for lack of other suspicion I guess I'll try to talk to Ed today and see if he does the same thing.
spies6Robert (3:42:06 PM): sounds good :-)
spies6Robert (3:42:26 PM): that said, i've publcly mentioned it so he may not
spies6Robert (3:43:47 PM): want a better plan to prod him?
spies6iris (3:43:59 PM): Yes, sure, if you've got one.
spies6Robert (3:44:06 PM): mention how you love people taking very specific stances, it almost always outs them as a spy to you... over compensating and all.
spies6Robert (3:44:33 PM): then tomorrow, we both talk to him. he knows i trust people who give specific answers and dont middle road.
spies6Robert (3:44:40 PM): So if he acts one way with me, the other with you...
spies6Robert (3:44:48 PM): giving us both the impression we think of as innocent
spies6Robert (3:44:51 PM): then he's hiding something
spies6iris (3:46:38 PM): Okay, that works!
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Tuesday, May 19, 2009
spies6iris (12:51:25 PM): Robert, is there a chatroom going on right now? If so can you invite me?
spies6Robert (12:51:35 PM): sure
spies6Robert (12:51:51 PM): 1 sec, figuring out how
spies6iris (12:52:00 PM): Okay, thanks!
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spies6iris (7:11:59 PM): Okay, I'm rereading the plan and I'm game, and won't mention it to anyone, but I'm confused. I see what you and Yvette are doing and think it's a great idea.
spies6iris (7:12:30 PM): I'm just not clear if I am supposed to vote Thor or one of you two? If one of you two, I think I should vote Yvette, as I made a negative comment about her to Ed to see if he would jump on it.
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spies6Robert (8:16:11 PM): i dont think it matters which of us you vote for, as long as it's balanced. If ed and khaled both vote her, you'd be best voting me. if they are split then you and faith can be split.
spies6Robert (8:16:42 PM): That said, you should also be ready to switch to thor if its the only way to give him the majority, but with the caveat that really youd like to vote for one of us and just can't 100% decide which i guess
spies6iris (8:17:15 PM): Okay. Not having played this before, how do we find out who voted who? In the Exile chat, you can change votes?
spies6Robert (8:17:20 PM): tahts not so important though, as we have faith as a safety clause
spies6Robert (8:17:26 PM): I think we find out in exile chat
spies6iris (8:18:25 PM): Okay. If I'm going to vote for, say, you, do I need to post a reason in the burg now that I'm suspicious of you? I've pretty much indicated that I trust you and Yvette, but all the people I've said that to are people who are in on the plan, not Ed, Khaled or Callahan.
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spies6iris (9:25:03 PM): test?
spies6iris (9:25:38 PM): i see you in the ideaforourgroup room but I can't write there. You answered my question, though, thank you.
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[Iris]

Sunday, May 17, 2009
spies6Ariel (11:36:21 PM): I don't know about you, but I'm really hoping Mei Yun misses the deadline via her spamming.
spies6Ariel (11:36:29 PM): Mostly because I think it'd be funny. :-)
spies6iris (11:37:07 PM): That would be funny! :-) It's bugging me a tiny bit, because seriously, I could get my cat to post like that! But mostly I want you, me or Faith to win.
spies6Ariel (11:37:14 PM): Because we're all in the same Union?
spies6iris (11:37:19 PM): Yes.
spies6Ariel (11:37:25 PM): Understandable.
spies6Ariel (11:37:35 PM): We three make up half the players in the running, by the way.
spies6iris (11:37:46 PM): I know, any of us can be Spies, whih would be bad, but in the absence of any real knowledge, yet...
spies6iris (11:37:49 PM): I have Union pride!
spies6Ariel (11:37:54 PM): Haha, Union pride!
Monday, May 18, 2009
spies6iris (2:22:12 PM): Hey, congratulations on the win! How late did you have to stay up?
spies6Ariel (2:22:23 PM): Somewhere past four in the morning. :-D
spies6iris (2:22:34 PM): Wow! I'm impressed...great job!
spies6Ariel (2:23:19 PM): Thanks!
spies6iris (2:24:29 PM): You're welcome. :-) Mei-Yun and Rey lasted the longest?
spies6Ariel (2:24:42 PM): Yeah.
spies6Ariel (2:24:47 PM): Rey fell asleep.
spies6iris (2:25:23 PM): I'm hearing all sorts of complaints about Rey today...maybe I wasn't paying attention enough last night, too much multitasking, but people are saying he's obnoxious and I didn't notice.
spies6Ariel (2:25:39 PM): Well, he is obnoxious, no question.
spies6Ariel (2:26:15 PM): I suppose, on a good day, I would be lenient and say he's that brand of little-brother-obnoxious.
spies6Ariel (2:26:26 PM): However, this is not a good day as I'm still tired. :-)
spies6iris (2:27:55 PM): Then it's doubly satisfying that you beat him! Oh, I hope you get some rest then.
spies6Ariel (2:28:18 PM): I'm debating going back to sleep, actually!
spies6Ariel (2:28:24 PM): -Amused C sharp-
spies6iris (2:29:02 PM): Go for it! I did. :-) I feel better now...oh, and now I get the Amused C sharp...the violin! Before I was thinking harp...Ariel sounds like an angel's name.
spies6Ariel (2:29:46 PM): It is! But yes, I carry my violin wherever I go, and it makes for good emphasis when I'm talking. :-)
spies6iris (2:30:40 PM): That would make a cool gimmick (I don't mean it in a bad way, just don't know what else to call it) in a movie.
spies6Ariel (2:30:56 PM): Personality quirk, maybe?
spies6iris (2:31:27 PM): Yes, that's the right way of saying it.
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
spies6Ariel (12:48:53 PM): Hello, Iris.
spies6iris (12:49:14 PM): Hi Ariel, how are you? Recovered from the other night?
spies6Ariel (12:49:20 PM): I think so, yes!
spies6Ariel (12:49:27 PM): I think this is the first time I've been awake in the AM for a while.
spies6Ariel (12:49:33 PM): -Amused C sharp-
spies6iris (12:49:49 PM): I've had months like that! :-)
spies6Ariel (12:50:14 PM): It tends to be wearing after a while, doesn't it? I feel like I haven't gotten very much done since I've become nocturnal.
spies6Ariel (12:50:35 PM): I'm trying to remember how to invite myself to the Spies6 chat room.
spies6iris (12:50:40 PM): Yes. Well, my reason for going nocturnal was that I work from home, and it's quieter, but I can't say it helps any.
spies6Ariel (12:50:53 PM): Ah, I see.
spies6iris (12:51:00 PM): I don't know how to do that at all.
spies6Ariel (12:51:07 PM): If I worked from home, I probably would do most of my work at night!
spies6Ariel (12:51:27 PM): I did it once, with Kirsten's help, but I seem to have forgotten how. If I figure it out, I'll let you know. :-)
spies6iris (12:51:44 PM): Okay, I just asked Robert to invite me if there is one. Once I'm inside I can invite you. I know how to do that.
spies6iris (12:52:36 PM): Got in, sent you invite. :-)
spies6Ariel (12:53:01 PM): Thanks!
spies6Ariel (12:53:05 PM): So what do you think of the game so far?
spies6iris (12:54:32 PM): I love it, I'm having fun. I have one strong suspect, but she's not on our team, so I'm not liking the team exile thing. Not least of which because I'm afraid the 3 exiles really favor the Spies.
spies6iris (12:54:35 PM): What do you think?
spies6Ariel (12:55:28 PM): I've got two suspects right now, one of whom I'm happy to say I can vote for.
spies6Ariel (12:55:53 PM): As for the three exiles favoring the Spies... if we somehow manage to exile three Citizens, then you're right.
spies6iris (12:56:16 PM): Oh, that's good! Care to share? I don't really have a suspect yet to vote for. I'm looking at Ed and Khaled today.
spies6iris (12:56:38 PM): I'm basing that comment on every game of mafia I've been in, there's always been a mislynch on day one.
spies6Ariel (12:57:35 PM): The people I've talked to in our group seem to be suspicious of Ed as well, though I haven't talked to him much.
spies6iris (12:59:41 PM): I talked to him privately once. It was very, very briefly. But my brief chat with him plus what Robert and Yvette posted in the public exile thread really made me feel like he was being extra cautious because he had knowledge before the rest of us.
spies6Ariel (1:00:02 PM): I had a bit of the same feeling. My current suspect, though, is Khaled.
spies6Ariel (1:00:06 PM): Care to share yours?
spies6iris (1:01:04 PM): My current suspect? If I HAD to vote this second I would coin toss between the two of them. Khaled I spoke to for the first time last night. He seemed nice . My problem with him was ...
spies6iris (1:01:40 PM): that he appeared fixated on the exile. No matter what I said to him...brought up the blueprints, etc...
spies6iris (1:02:12 PM): he kept bringing up the exile again and sounding scared. "I hope I don't get screwed just because I'm online at a different time than everyone." Not a direct quote, a paraphrase.
spies6Ariel (1:02:20 PM): People seem to have slackened off on the blueprints a bit, I notice.
spies6iris (1:02:44 PM): Yes. This may sound like a silly question, but I have a reason for asking. Is Sam Canadian?
spies6Ariel (1:03:30 PM): I'm... not sure, actually. I don't think so, but I suppose he could be.
spies6iris (1:04:07 PM): Okay, I'd better just ask him. I was chatting with someone last night...can't remember who but Khaled is the only one I definitely remember talkign to, may have been him.
spies6iris (1:04:36 PM): I was googling labor history and Canada to see if there was any significant public event in history.
spies6iris (1:04:53 PM): Told him about it and he said,"I think Sam is Canadian." There were Canadian dollars in the video, that's why.
spies6Ariel (1:05:20 PM): Right, I remember that.
spies6iris (1:05:24 PM): Anyway, I don't really truly suspect Khaled. I'd put him at my #3 suspect right now. Ed would be #2, but more for things that other people are saying about him.
spies6Ariel (1:05:41 PM): ...On a hunch, is your #1 suspect Georgia, by any chance?
spies6iris (1:06:03 PM): Yes, absolutely. But we can't vote her which is frustrating me.
spies6Ariel (1:06:25 PM): Ah. You must be the third person, then, of whom Robert spoke last night.
spies6Ariel (1:06:29 PM): Can I ask why?
spies6iris (1:06:49 PM): Yes. My individual reason was that in the first chat...the one that turned into your challenge...
spies6iris (1:07:51 PM): when Sam explained the power you were working for. Georgia said, "It would be terrible if the power got outside the hands of Spies."
spies6Ariel (1:08:09 PM): A Spy slip, perhaps?
spies6iris (1:08:15 PM): Well, it gets more damning.
spies6iris (1:08:49 PM): I said, "Georgia, it would be terrible if the power got OUTSIDE the hands of Spies?" In fact, I remember you commenting on it too. It did look like, just a typo.
spies6iris (1:09:02 PM): You said, "Georgia, did you mean to say inside the hands of spies?"
spies6Ariel (1:09:05 PM): I actually remember what you're talking about.
spies6iris (1:09:19 PM): But she never answered either of us. She was in the room, commented on something else a few minutes later.
spies6iris (1:09:32 PM): Not long minutes, I mean a few comments later. Never addressed either of our questions.
spies6Ariel (1:10:02 PM): It's possible she just didn't see them, but you're right, that's definitely interesting.
spies6iris (1:11:28 PM): brb, have to get mydaughter something.
spies6Ariel (1:12:11 PM): Alright. :-)
spies6iris (1:12:53 PM): back.
spies6Ariel (1:13:30 PM): Welcome back.
spies6iris (1:13:53 PM): So, that pinged me and then someone reminded me of how antagonistic she was during the chat about you and Yvette thinking about the blueprints.
spies6Ariel (1:14:41 PM): That struck me as a bit hypocritical, actually. She wasn't actually doing anything herself, but she was tearing into Yvette and I for concentrating on the blueprints, as I recall, and not on hunting for Spies.
spies6iris (1:14:54 PM): Yes. It seemed like a classic smudge.
spies6Ariel (1:15:51 PM): It's too bad we can't vote for her. I'm thinking she is a definite candidate for spy-hood.
spies6iris (1:16:25 PM): It's bugging me too. I'm kind of hoping for a last minute twist.
spies6Ariel (1:17:49 PM): Ha! A member-swapping twist, then?
spies6Ariel (1:17:55 PM): Maybe Georgia and Thor will be switched.
spies6iris (1:18:04 PM): I would love that! :-)
spies6Ariel (1:18:09 PM): If you had to vote right now, would you vote for Ed, do you think?
spies6iris (1:18:48 PM): Yes, I guess I would.
spies6iris (1:18:55 PM): I don't like that, though, I'm not confident in it.
spies6Ariel (1:19:12 PM): Hmm. Why's that?
spies6Ariel (1:19:27 PM): I've had one private chat with Ed, but I must confess there wasn't anything interesting about it.
spies6iris (1:19:32 PM): Just because I haven't really talked to him myself yet so my reasons for him are mostly second hand.
spies6Ariel (1:20:43 PM): Same here.
spies6Ariel (1:20:51 PM): In the same vein, I'd like to really have a talk with Georgia.
spies6iris (1:21:07 PM): You're right, that's probably a good idea.
spies6Ariel (1:21:10 PM): I don't like that most of my suspicion on her has been echoed by so many people. It makes me nervous.
spies6Ariel (1:21:23 PM): Well, not "echoed" so much. I don't claim to have been suspicious of her first.
spies6Ariel (1:21:35 PM): More that so many of us are having the same feelings.
spies6Ariel (1:21:45 PM): Am I making myself understood, or am I babbling?
spies6iris (1:21:59 PM): No, I totally understand what you mean.
spies6iris (1:22:54 PM): My suspicion of Georgia was strong on my own. But I suppose there are some Spies looking to jump or create bandwagons.
spies6Ariel (1:23:04 PM): Speaking of Ed... He seems to be online. I'm going to poke him.
spies6iris (1:23:11 PM): Okay, good. :-)
spies6Ariel (1:47:52 PM): Hm, I'd like to alert you to something I've uncovered with Ed.
spies6iris (1:48:32 PM): Okay, shoot. I'm talking to him too, nothing deep but I'm getting a stronger (negative) impression of him.
spies6Ariel (1:48:45 PM): As am I.
spies6Ariel (1:49:10 PM): After I interrogated him a bit, he asked for my suspicions; I told him I was suspicious of Khaled and Georgia, and he went strangely silent.
spies6iris (1:49:36 PM): Oh, that's interesting!
spies6Ariel (1:50:03 PM): He blamed it on the fact that he was talking to you and Robert at the same time, but it still put my hackles up.
spies6iris (1:51:32 PM): Very interesting. Okay, mine is in a different vein. I told him that I'm rereading the exile board on the burg and Mirela's post is raising my suspicion.
spies6iris (1:51:49 PM): She seems hostile and yet doesn't really say anything. So I asked if he's spoken to her yet.
spies6Ariel (1:51:57 PM): She did seem jumpy, I'll admit, but perhaps she's just overeager.
spies6iris (1:52:27 PM): I agree. His response to me, though, was, "Yeah, I saw the same thing. Maybe it's just that time of the month."
spies6Ariel (1:52:42 PM): How vulgar.
spies6iris (1:52:50 PM): So I ignored that bit of obnoxiousness in order to bait him.
spies6iris (1:53:13 PM): I'm fairly sure (as sure as I can be on Day Two) that Yvette is a Citizen.
spies6iris (1:53:31 PM): So I said, "Well, I'm rereading it again and it seems like maybe she (Mirela) was just posting in character."
spies6iris (1:53:59 PM): Me: "Which is fine but the last thing we need on this team is two angry hostile women."
spies6iris (1:54:11 PM): That was total bait, I don't feel that way about Yvette at all. But he jumped on it.
spies6Ariel (1:54:41 PM): He did seem to. Speaking of which, Mirela's character strikes me as one of those dreamy, spiritual women.
spies6Ariel (1:54:45 PM): Not angry and hostile at all.
spies6iris (1:54:49 PM): Oh, yeah, you're right.
spies6iris (1:54:54 PM): I forgot...the Romany thing.
spies6iris (1:56:16 PM): Well, if I had to vote right now, I guess I'd pick between Ed and Mirela.
spies6Ariel (1:56:28 PM): This conversation is going to be so hard to archive! :-) Every two or three seconds I get this:
spies6Ariel (1:56:38 PM): It's amusing.
spies6iris (1:57:25 PM): I'm not seeing what you're showing me, but I have a good archive.
spies6Ariel (1:58:09 PM): I'll just read past them. Haha.
spies6iris (1:58:42 PM): ok.one of those available things?
spies6Ariel (1:58:57 PM): Right.
spies6Ariel (1:59:27 PM): I just looked back up and counted, it's come up thirty times!
spies6Ariel (1:59:29 PM): :-D
spies6iris (1:59:41 PM): LOL!
spies6iris (1:59:45 PM): That must be annoying.
spies6Ariel (2:04:53 PM): Hmm... Are you still talking to Ed?
spies6iris (2:05:11 PM): No, window is still open but the conversation died. Why?
spies6Ariel (2:05:28 PM): Because I've got another negative mark against him.
spies6iris (2:05:35 PM): What's that?
spies6Ariel (2:06:01 PM): After I brought up Georgia and Khaled, he said he didn't have anything regarding Georgia. So we started talking about Khaled.
spies6Ariel (2:06:16 PM): He seemed pretty eager to jump on Khaled. Here's a quote:
spies6Ariel (2:06:24 PM): spies6Ed (12:54:27 PM): I talked to him last night for the first time, he started off by playing dumb about not knowing that the spies have always known their alignment
spies6Ariel (2:07:03 PM): We continued on in that vein for a little while, and then I asked him this:
spies6iris (2:07:03 PM): Okay, that's really, really weird because he was at the chat when Sam told us that!
spies6Ariel (2:07:20 PM): No, Khaled wasn't. I remember. He didn't come on until later in the night.
spies6iris (2:07:34 PM): Oh, sorry, I read that wrong.
spies6iris (2:07:44 PM): I meant Ed was at the chat, but you're showing Ed talking about Khaled.
spies6Ariel (2:07:52 PM): Right.
spies6Ariel (2:08:08 PM): Anyway, I hit him with a direct question:
spies6Ariel (2:08:09 PM):
spies6Ariel (1:03:50 PM): You said when we started talking about Khaled, that he "started off by playing dumb about not knowing that the spies have always known their alignment".

spies6Ariel (1:04:02 PM): Do you or do you not find that suspicious?
spies6Ariel (2:08:38 PM): And suddenly he begins to backtrack and turn the question around:
spies6Ariel (2:08:39 PM):
spies6Ed (1:04:39 PM): Possibly, although like you said he wasn't at the opening chat and may have just missed that info

spies6Ed (1:06:31 PM): What do you feel?
spies6Ariel (2:08:55 PM): It just struck me as very wishy-washy.
spies6iris (2:09:46 PM): It strikes me the same way. I do feel when talking to him or rereading other conversations, he's looking to hear who any individual suspects first, and then chime in.
spies6Ariel (2:10:26 PM): The only thing I got out of him regarding his own, original suspicions, is that he thinks you and Faith are too nice.
spies6iris (2:12:00 PM): Okay, that's funny. I'm rereading my convo with him...
spies6iris (2:12:14 PM): he didn't jump on my suspicion of Mirela, just made an obnoxious comment.
spies6Ariel (2:12:45 PM): Hmm, interesting.
spies6Ariel (2:20:23 PM): If you're interested, I've posted the conversation between Ed and myself in the Burg. I'd like to hear any comments you may have. :-)
spies6iris (2:20:36 PM): Okay, I'll go look. :-)
spies6iris (2:22:29 PM): He's messaging me about it now. "Did you see Ariel's latest post?" I'm going to say no to see what he says.
spies6iris (2:22:33 PM): (I was reading it.)
spies6Ariel (2:22:40 PM): Hee hee!
spies6Ariel (2:22:41 PM): So devious.
spies6iris (2:25:09 PM): I'm going to cut and paste so you can see this.
spies6iris (2:25:33 PM): Mind you, our convo window is open but it's been a good half an hour since I talked to him.
spies6Ariel (2:25:41 PM): Alright.
spies6iris (2:25:49 PM):
spies6Ed (2:22:03 PM): Hey, did you see Ariel's latest post?

spies6iris (2:22:49 PM): No, I'm not on the boards ATM, just chatting. What's up?

spies6Ed (2:23:27 PM): No big deal, you'll see it eventually

spies6Ed (2:23:35 PM): she's just looking for outside observations

spies6iris (2:23:51 PM): Outside like outside of our team?

spies6Ed (2:24:13 PM): No, outside of the convo btwn her and I

spies6iris (2:25:00 PM): Oh, the post is a convo between you and her?
spies6iris (2:26:43 PM): He just answered Yep.
spies6Ariel (2:27:08 PM): Nothing too suspicious so far.
spies6iris (2:27:46 PM): No, I'm just wondering why he's pointing it out to me and then not telling me what it says.
spies6iris (2:28:42 PM): Here's the rest of it.
spies6iris (2:28:56 PM):
spies6iris (2:26:52 PM): Is it making you suspicious of her?

spies6Ed (2:27:26 PM): Not really, just wondering if others agree with her assessment of our convo

spies6iris (2:28:31 PM): Okay, I'll go look.
spies6iris (2:29:11 PM): So I guess is his point is he is quietly trying to figure out who suspects him.
spies6Ariel (2:30:30 PM): Hmmm.
spies6Ariel (2:30:45 PM): I wonder if anyone's going to post, and if so, what Ed will think of it.
spies6Ariel (2:30:57 PM): Robert says he doesn't find it particularly scummy.
spies6iris (2:31:07 PM): I intend to post, I'm just doing like 5 things at once right now.
spies6Ariel (2:31:20 PM): Haha! Aren't we all?
spies6iris (2:32:58 PM): I'm not sure what tack to take with Ed from here on in. I want to get more from him, but he's very closelipped.
spies6Ariel (2:55:47 PM): Did you have any other thoughts that you had planned on posting?
spies6iris (2:57:47 PM): I don't know. I need to reread your post, and I'll post on that. I don't have any strong evidence on anyone apart from Georgia, which is frustrating. With Ed and Mirela it's more that something just seems off.
spies6Ariel (2:58:19 PM): It's a shame we can't vote for Georgia.
spies6iris (2:58:40 PM): Yes. :-(
spies6Ariel (6:49:12 PM): Hello, Iris.
spies6iris (6:49:26 PM): Hi again, Ariel. :-)
spies6Ariel (6:49:45 PM): I've decided that if I'm going to trust you regarding the Plan, I might as well trust you all the way. :-)
spies6Ariel (6:49:53 PM): I've been talking with Georgia.
spies6iris (6:50:02 PM): Okay. What's your feel for her?
spies6iris (6:50:17 PM): I'm glad you're trusting me, it's scary, but I trust you, Yvette and Robert the most at this point.
spies6Ariel (6:50:38 PM): Would you like to read our conversation? I'll post it here, if you like.
spies6Ariel (6:50:43 PM): She's very, very cagey.
spies6iris (6:50:45 PM): Yes, thank you.
spies6Ariel (6:50:58 PM):
Darn, it was too long.
spies6Ariel (6:51:04 PM): Also, why is my font like this?
spies6Ariel (6:51:12 PM): There we are.
spies6Ariel (6:51:17 PM): I'll try posting it in halves.
spies6Ariel (6:51:50 PM): Argh.
spies6Ariel (6:51:54 PM): Darn character limit.
spies6iris (6:52:00 PM): I don't know, you turned red all of a sudden.
spies6Ariel (6:52:24 PM): By the way, I've gotten your available message seven times in a row already.
spies6Ariel (6:52:29 PM): -Amused C sharp-
spies6Ariel (6:52:50 PM):
spies6Ariel (5:15:15 PM): Hello, Georgia. I haven't gotten a chance to speak with you yet; how are you? :-)

spies6Georgia (5:16:46 PM): Hey. I am good. How are you?

spies6Ariel (5:17:04 PM): Hungry, but otherwise fine. :-)

spies6Georgia (5:19:32 PM): That is good, besides the hunger.

spies6Ariel (5:19:51 PM): Haha, it's easily fixed, though.

spies6Ariel (5:20:08 PM): So, to jump right in to the meat of the matter... would you care to share your suspicions (if you have any, that is)?
spies6iris (6:52:52 PM): LOL!
spies6Ariel (6:53:01 PM):
spies6Georgia (5:21:45 PM): I do have a suspicion, however I am holding on to it until I have a chance to speak with the person further. As right now it is simply a gut feeling, and to go off just that is a bit ridiculous. When I have the chance to speak further with them before bringing it to everyone else.

spies6Ariel (5:22:16 PM): Understandable. I don't mind voicing suspicions if I have them, but I would surely attempt to speak somewhat indepth with the person before going so far as to vote them.

spies6Georgia (5:25:53 PM): The problem with voicing all and every suspicion you have, before you've had the chance to really speak with them - is that the spies could try and jump on nothing and turn it into something.

spies6Ariel (5:26:57 PM): True, but then that could also be construed as a bit of a giveaway, couldn't it?

spies6Georgia (5:31:43 PM): It could. However if they do it subtlely then it wouldn't. Whispers here, whispers there.

spies6Ariel (5:32:27 PM): Too subtly, however, and they wouldn't get anything done. And you have the advantage of public opinion.
spies6Ariel (6:53:19 PM):
spies6Georgia (5:33:57 PM): Public opinion. Yes, public opinion. It isn't really public opinion when you have seven people conspiring together.

spies6Ariel (5:35:01 PM): Yes, but the 25 other people could be construed as "public opinion". :-)

spies6Georgia (5:35:33 PM): True. Unless each spy buddies and influences just one person. Then the seven turns into fourteen.

spies6Ariel (5:36:03 PM): You're assuming that the seven that the spies pick on are easily influenced. And if they aren't?

spies6Georgia (5:36:20 PM): Why couldn't the spies seek out those most easily influenced?

spies6Georgia (5:36:48 PM): Or for that matter, someone whom seems to agree with them on a certain matter.
spies6Ariel (6:53:28 PM):
spies6Georgia (5:37:45 PM): I'm not saying that everyone is so easily impressionable. However I think it could be done.

spies6Ariel (5:37:53 PM): Because the Spy and the Citizen seem to agree on one matter, it doesn't follow that they would agree on everything.

spies6Ariel (5:37:56 PM): Oh, I agree that it's possible.

spies6Georgia (5:40:15 PM): I agree. Nothing will be agreed on unanimously. Nor does it mean that agreement on one thing, will lead to agreement on all things. I just think that it could be done.

spies6Ariel (5:41:16 PM): Yes, definitely possible. It looks like we'll have to agree to disagree, no?

spies6Georgia (5:42:17 PM): Yes.
spies6Ariel (6:53:35 PM): And that's all of it.
spies6iris (6:54:40 PM): Hm, that's an interesting chat.
spies6Ariel (6:54:46 PM): Isn't it, though?
spies6iris (6:54:54 PM): I am tending to suspect anyone that's pumping for info without giving any in return.
spies6Ariel (6:55:30 PM): Such as?
spies6iris (6:55:47 PM): Ed...wants to know who suspects are but won't say anything in return.
spies6Ariel (6:55:55 PM): Agreed.
spies6iris (6:56:16 PM): That's it, i think. I chatted with Khaled last night but it was from the phone, not here. He made me less worried about him after talking, though.
spies6Ariel (6:56:27 PM): Yes, I'm not as sure about him as I was.
spies6Ariel (6:56:40 PM): However, I'm more sure of Georgia, now that I've talked to her myself.
spies6iris (6:57:58 PM): Okay...in the secret room before, I was only half reading, because I was late to piano lessons, but Yvette seemed to be saying that she's been going after Georgia but is now leaning towards citizen. Did she say why? Because I trust Yvette, I trust her instinct...but Georgia is SO bugging me.
spies6Ariel (6:58:20 PM): She said that Georgia had the most potential to be a Citizen. I'm not sure why.
spies6iris (6:58:40 PM): Okay, that's what I read too, just wasn't sure if she followed up on that thought.
spies6iris (6:59:25 PM): The one thing I'm nervous about regarding the plan...I feel it's dangerous to exile a TOTAL inactive. He should be subbed if possible, but...
spies6iris (6:59:41 PM): if he's really ignoring the whole thing, he could be an important power that we might lose.
spies6Ariel (7:00:20 PM): I'm afraid Sam won't replace him.
spies6iris (7:01:43 PM): Sam doesn't replace? Well, I guess if that's the case, if Sam didn't give out powers until last night, he's been totally inactive since then so I would hope he wouldn't have given him a power then.
spies6Ariel (7:02:05 PM): That's a good assumption.
spies6iris (7:02:39 PM): Okay, I guess I won't worry about it then.
spies6Ariel (7:03:05 PM): Oh, it's never wise not to worry. :-P
spies6iris (7:03:24 PM): LOL
spies6iris (7:03:33 PM): Well, yes, but we have to prioritize our worries too.
spies6Ariel (7:04:12 PM): True.
spies6iris (7:04:16 PM): If he's not likely to have a power role and he's doing nothing, I'll worry less about that than us accidentally mislynching someone important.
spies6Ariel (7:05:13 PM): That's a good point.
spies6iris (7:05:45 PM): Okay, I'm rereading the chat about the plan now...
spies6iris (7:07:32 PM): If Faith and I should vote for Yvette or Robert...
spies6Ariel (7:07:51 PM): I've said publically that I'm voting for Thor. I'm also taking some flack about it.
spies6iris (7:08:08 PM): From whom?
spies6Ariel (7:08:14 PM): Boris and Rey, apparently.
spies6iris (7:08:52 PM): Okay. Rey worries me a bit, he seems to be just attempting to distract a lot.
spies6iris (7:08:57 PM): Boris I don't think I've spoken to at all.

[Iris]

spies6iris (2:04:40 PM): Hi, I don't think I've "met" you yet so I thought I'd just say hello.
spies6callahan (4:17:21 PM): hello!
spies6iris (4:50:25 PM): Hi, how are you?
spies6callahan (4:51:00 PM): not good at the moment
spies6callahan (4:51:03 PM): yourself?
spies6iris (4:51:08 PM): Fine. What's wrong?
spies6callahan (4:51:59 PM): gf and I are in a little fight
spies6callahan (4:52:07 PM):
spies6iris (4:52:09 PM): Oh. Sorry. :-(
spies6callahan (4:52:13 PM): not your fault
spies6iris (4:52:33 PM): This is a good distraction from that though!
spies6callahan (4:52:38 PM): hah
spies6iris (4:54:12 PM): Well, it can be. That's what I use it for anyway. Have you met any of our team yet? Formed any impressions??
spies6callahan (4:54:47 PM): met yvette
spies6callahan (4:55:05 PM): i'm getting a pretty good read from her
spies6callahan (4:55:15 PM): feels citizen
spies6iris (4:55:30 PM): Me too. I don't think she'd be so much in the front of everything if she weren't.
spies6callahan (4:55:49 PM): well, spies can lead too
spies6callahan (4:55:56 PM): leadership doesn't discriminate
spies6iris (4:56:11 PM): I suppose you're right.
spies6callahan (4:57:30 PM): i am right. haha
spies6iris (4:57:40 PM): Why, are you never right? :-)
spies6callahan (4:58:51 PM): lol
spies6callahan (4:59:02 PM): i like to think i'm right the majority of the time
spies6callahan (4:59:12 PM): like in mini-mafia games where no one listens to me
spies6iris (4:59:25 PM): LOL. Okay.

[Iris]

icon IM History with buddy spies6meiyun
Sunday, May 17, 2009
spies6meiyun (12:30:22 PM): hey girl!
spies6iris (12:32:58 PM): Hi. Nice to meet you but...we're not on the same team? I thought I'm not supposed to talk to anyone who's not on my team?
spies6meiyun (12:33:44 PM): oh no!
spies6meiyun (12:35:56 PM): oh I just asked sam!
spies6meiyun (12:36:00 PM): we can talk
spies6meiyun (12:36:10 PM): so how are you doin?
spies6iris (12:36:36 PM): Okay, sorry. I wasn't sure if it was allowed or if he was just advising us that it would be hard to talk to all 32 people. I'm fine, how are you?
spies6meiyun (12:37:20 PM): im good!
spies6meiyun (12:37:29 PM): just came back from church
spies6iris (12:38:32 PM): Good way to start the day. :-) I had to get up early today for a pajama party at a firehouse (don't ask!) so I started off grumpy. :-)
spies6meiyun (12:39:56 PM): why would you be grumpy after a pajama party. aint those fun?
spies6iris (12:40:31 PM): Oh, they should be, but I was just the chauffeur, so I was grumpy that I had to get up early.
spies6meiyun (12:41:51 PM): get some sleep!
spies6iris (12:42:17 PM): Yeah, that's an idea, a nap tonight before the chat will be good. Will you be there?
spies6meiyun (12:42:59 PM): i think so!
spies6iris (12:44:19 PM): Good...I am so excited! Scared too though. This is my first Spies game.
spies6meiyun (12:48:04 PM): That is what everyone is going to say!
spies6iris (12:48:22 PM): LOL. I suppose you're right.
spies6meiyun (12:48:53 PM): Well let me get some food ok? I will be right back
spies6meiyun (12:49:00 PM): Nice meeting you Iris!
spies6iris (12:49:07 PM): K, TTYL. Nice meeting you too! :-)

[Iris]

Tuesday, May 19, 2009
spies6rey (9:31:53 PM): haha hey!
spies6iris (9:32:01 PM): Hi!
spies6rey (9:32:03 PM): i don't believe i have spoken with you one-on-one before.
spies6rey (9:32:26 PM): i have been to busy as of late with my own team members that i have neglected the other teams, which i failed to realize also consist of spies.
spies6iris (9:32:37 PM): I don't think so either. I felt like we had because of the chat the other night, but no. That game was fun, thanks.
spies6iris (9:32:41 PM): And good show!
spies6iris (9:32:52 PM): In the contest I mean.
spies6rey (9:32:58 PM): haha no problem. :-) && thanks.
spies6iris (9:33:08 PM): You'wre welcome.
spies6rey (9:33:25 PM): so let's get down to discussing; who do you suspect thus far and why?
spies6rey (9:33:32 PM): (sorry i like getting down to the point)
spies6iris (9:33:49 PM): Okay. No worries. As long as you'll answer the same when I'm done? Otherwise I'll suspect you. ;-)
spies6iris (9:34:01 PM): My number one suspect is Georgia. Due to the chat the other night.
spies6rey (9:34:04 PM): haha if you suspect me, please don't hold it back from me.
spies6iris (9:34:08 PM): No, I don't, really.
spies6rey (9:34:15 PM): anyways, yeah i will answer you in turn.
spies6iris (9:34:27 PM): Okay.
spies6rey (9:34:39 PM): can you elaborate further on georgia?
spies6iris (9:34:44 PM): Yes.
spies6iris (9:35:23 PM): In the chat the other night, when Sam announced the power challenge, she said, "It would be bad for power to get outside the hands of Spies." Now, that could be a typo, but...
spies6iris (9:35:45 PM): I called her on it. I said, "Georgia, it would be bad for power to get OUTSIDE the hands of Spies?" And Ariel said, "Did you mean to say inside?"
spies6iris (9:35:59 PM): She ignored our questions, but posted almost immediately afterward about something random, changing the subject.
spies6iris (9:36:12 PM): I understand typos, it was the attempt to bury it that makes me suspicious.
spies6rey (9:37:03 PM): that is really weird.
spies6rey (9:37:07 PM): i can't didn't notice that.
spies6rey (9:37:10 PM): actually*
spies6iris (9:38:38 PM): It was weird. I give people benefit of the doubt when they say something weird...Citizens tend to be more careless than Spies, I would think. But it would have been easy to explain as a Citizen mistake, while she may have frozen as a Spy.
spies6rey (9:39:29 PM): hmm..
spies6rey (9:39:38 PM): have you approached her about it more than once?
spies6iris (9:39:54 PM): No. Do you think I should?
spies6iris (9:40:16 PM): I've mostly concentrated on my own team today.
spies6rey (9:40:24 PM): wait, is she not on your team?
spies6iris (9:40:41 PM): No, she's not. That's the problem. She's my number one suspect and I can't do anything about it.
spies6rey (9:41:05 PM): ah i understand now.
spies6rey (9:41:18 PM): anyways, i really think you should confront her about it one-on-one.
spies6rey (9:41:31 PM): if she refuses to give you a proper explanation, then obviously there is a problem.
spies6rey (9:41:57 PM): perhaps she either A) missed the first time you brought it up B) is slightly dislexic and just forgot completely
spies6iris (9:42:21 PM): Okay, that never occured to me because I've been focusing on my team but I think you're right.
spies6rey (9:43:01 PM): i have been focusing on my team, but i am much more suspicious of other team's members.
spies6rey (9:43:10 PM): they keep saying shit about me and i'm not even on their team. xD
spies6iris (9:43:19 PM): That's kind of how I feel. My team is pretty cool. Who's saying shit about you?
spies6rey (9:43:33 PM): well are you in group 1 or 3?
spies6rey (9:43:43 PM): as in the order.
spies6iris (9:44:00 PM): 1
spies6rey (9:44:05 PM): oh
spies6rey (9:44:15 PM): well ED
spies6rey (9:44:27 PM): i have not even spoken to him.
spies6rey (9:44:28 PM): at all.
spies6rey (9:44:30 PM): period.
spies6rey (9:44:45 PM): and he has come to the conclusion that i am the most suspicious player outside of his team.
spies6iris (9:44:53 PM): That's truly bizarre.
spies6rey (9:44:59 PM): also, he does a complete turnaround in these posts:
spies6rey (9:45:18 PM): spies6Ed (12:28:22 PM): If I had to pick anyone, it would be Rey
spies6rey (9:45:25 PM): spies6Ed (12:30:23 PM): Yeah, maybe I'm just annoyed by him and would like to see him go
spies6rey (9:45:35 PM): spies6Ed (12:30:34 PM): not really though, annoying cits are better than spies
spies6rey (9:45:46 PM): so basically he went from wanting to exile me.
spies6rey (9:45:52 PM): to maybe he is just annoying.
spies6rey (9:45:56 PM): to maybe he is a good thing.
spies6rey (9:46:03 PM): just something for you to keep in mind, that's all.
spies6iris (9:46:24 PM): Okay, I will keep that in mind. He's #3 on my suspect list right now. Mainly because he pumps for information without saying much.
spies6rey (9:46:49 PM): keep in mind that might be his playstyle.
spies6iris (9:46:51 PM): He just sought me out for a private chat to tell me that he doesn't really suspect me all that much, after posting in the Burg that he suspects me and Faith because we're too nice.
spies6iris (9:46:55 PM): Yes, it might be.
spies6rey (9:47:07 PM): as is mine to be a little brother figure.
spies6rey (9:47:17 PM): someone you think is annoying, yet you can confide in.
spies6iris (9:47:27 PM): Oh, someone said that to me about you today! I can't remember who it was though.
spies6rey (9:47:47 PM): that i act like that? or someone else does that too? o.O
spies6iris (9:47:57 PM): No, that you're annoying like a little brother.
spies6rey (9:48:00 PM): oh, haha.
spies6rey (9:48:03 PM): weeeeell anyways.
spies6rey (9:48:10 PM): if he DID tell you that he didn't suspect you,
spies6rey (9:48:20 PM): and then posted in the boards that he does.
spies6rey (9:48:24 PM): you have a spy on your hands.
spies6rey (9:48:29 PM): i mean, really..
spies6iris (9:48:39 PM): Reverse order. Posted on the boards first...then told me he doesn't suspect me too much.
spies6rey (9:48:42 PM): oh.
spies6iris (9:48:50 PM): After I complained about him suspecting me because I'm nice.
spies6rey (9:49:16 PM): either he changed his mind, (which does happen) or he has decided that you are not a good target to push an exile on because he realized you can defend yourself.
spies6iris (9:49:33 PM): Right. It could be either. He's the weakest of my suspects, anyway.
spies6iris (9:50:10 PM): The other one being Mirela. Which may change when I talk to her, but...she's claiming comp problems and not talking in chat, which I understand, but then posting hostile messages on our Burg board.
spies6rey (9:50:29 PM): hostile, how?
spies6iris (9:50:49 PM): Well, here, I'll show you. At first I thought she was posting in character, but her character appears to be an airy Gypsy, so it's off.
spies6iris (9:51:52 PM): Okay, Callahan (who's supposed to be a priest) says he hasn't spoken to Mirela yet. She answers:
spies6iris (9:52:04 PM): Lies, Father.

You spoke with me, albeit briefly, Sunday evening. Do you deny that? Or were you just hoping that I wouldn't be around soon enough to contradict you?
spies6iris (9:52:28 PM): Here's her next message when she's called on it:
spies6iris (9:52:30 PM): My personal philosophy is: check your facts.


Even by giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he honestly forgot about it, in which case it speaks badly for his observation skills in a game when they are the paramount of importance, or it was some attempt to blindside me while I was struggling with my internet situation.


If you make a post on observation you should have your facts correct. Otherwise it reflects unfavorably on the person posting.


I do not lie in saying that I've only spoken at any length with Yvette, for short length with Callahan, and only greetings with Robert and Ariel.
spies6iris (9:53:03 PM): Most of the rest of us agree that Callahan is one of the most Citizen-like on our team, so this is very aggressive, esp. since it refers to a conversation on Day One when most of us don't remember each other's names.
spies6rey (9:53:52 PM): hmmm..
spies6rey (9:53:58 PM): she might just feel overwhelmed.
spies6rey (9:54:05 PM): i mean, i can understand how she feels.
spies6rey (9:54:17 PM): (sorry, i try to view it from the defendants side)
spies6iris (9:54:45 PM): No worries. It makes me suspicious though because really, how would it benefit him to lie about having talked to her or not? It's way more likely he just forgot.
spies6iris (9:54:51 PM): So it seems like a smudge.
spies6rey (9:55:08 PM): i know i can see it from both sides.
spies6rey (9:55:16 PM): callahan is not in fault,
spies6rey (9:55:20 PM): but i don't think she is either.
spies6rey (9:55:34 PM): she came into this game late. regardless of the reasons for it, she must feel overwhelmed. she has less of an advantage coming late in the game.
spies6rey (9:55:46 PM): she probably feels that everyone already has made friends while she is left alone, and sad.
spies6rey (9:56:04 PM): therefore, she must feel REALLY depressed when someone even forgets that they had a conversation with HER.
spies6iris (9:56:12 PM): LOL. Maybe.
spies6rey (9:56:31 PM): i'm just trying to put myself in that situation.
spies6rey (9:56:43 PM): :\
spies6rey (9:57:15 PM): wouldn't you be a little irritated if you signed up for a game that you REALLY looked forward to, and then something big came up on the opening ceremony.
spies6iris (9:57:27 PM): I don't disagree with you, which is why I am reserving judgment until I talk to her personally.
spies6rey (9:57:33 PM): then you had to miss it, gain a disadvantage, and then come back to people talking about exiling you for being inactive.
spies6iris (9:57:45 PM): Yes, when you put it that way, totally frustrating.
spies6rey (9:58:03 PM): if there was something that stopped me from participating in this game i'd be so mad. XD
spies6rey (9:58:08 PM): anyways, yeah.
spies6rey (9:58:17 PM): just be a little easy on the late comers.
spies6iris (9:58:30 PM): I will. So any more suspects besides Ed?
spies6rey (9:58:52 PM): outside of my group? let's see..
spies6rey (9:59:12 PM): nope nope.
spies6rey (9:59:31 PM): mei yun and me are in an argument, but i don't find anythign suspicious about her.
spies6iris (9:59:39 PM): Okay. Ed's not in your group, though, he's in mine.
spies6rey (9:59:55 PM): haha yeah i know.
spies6rey (10:00:18 PM): in my team i have some suspects, but nothing TOO highly suspicious has been going on.
spies6rey (10:00:26 PM): there has been some drama, but nothing incriminating.
spies6iris (10:00:53 PM): You're the team with a high number of lurkers?
spies6rey (10:01:07 PM): nope, that's the bottom team.
spies6rey (10:01:16 PM): i am in the middle team, the most active team in my opinion.
spies6rey (10:01:56 PM): it seems that bottom team has posted a group chat, so i have to examine that closely.
spies6rey (10:02:06 PM): yes, i call the teams by their location to each other.
spies6iris (10:02:59 PM): LOL. Okay, I have to run, kids' bedtime, but it was nice talking to you.
spies6rey (10:03:09 PM): haha alright, the same to you.
spies6rey (10:03:15 PM): good night.

[Iris]

icon IM History with buddy spies6Ed
Sunday, May 17, 2009
spies6Ed (5:17:27 PM): hello iris
spies6iris (5:17:38 PM): Hi Ed, nice to meet you!
spies6Ed (5:21:38 PM): you too, i'm about to sign off, just introducing myself to my team members
spies6Ed (5:21:50 PM): go 466244!!
spies6iris (5:22:00 PM): Okay...will you be at the chat later? Yeah! (We need a nickname though.)
spies6Ed (5:23:08 PM): yep, i'll be there, maybe we'll come up with a name then
spies6iris (5:23:20 PM): Okay, TTYL then. :-)
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
spies6Ed (1:39:23 PM): Hello Iris
spies6iris (1:39:31 PM): Hi Ed, how are you?
spies6Ed (1:39:37 PM): Great, you?
spies6iris (1:40:19 PM): Fine, thanks. A bit confused, I'm simultaneously playing Spies and gossiping about breakups with my real friends on FB. :-) Need to stop multitasking.
spies6iris (1:41:20 PM): Do you have any suspects yet? I do, but my primary one is not on our team.
spies6Ed (1:42:30 PM): Unfortunately that seems to be a reoccuring theme on our team
spies6Ed (1:42:50 PM): Maybe we beat the odds and we're all citizens....
spies6iris (1:44:46 PM): Possible, I guess, but it seems unlikely. Have you spoken to Mirela at all?
spies6iris (1:45:07 PM): I'm just rereading her post on the burg and she's coming off as very, very aggressive without actually saying anything.
spies6Ed (1:46:00 PM): Yeah, I saw her angry posts but I still haven't had the "pleasure" of talking to her
spies6iris (1:46:05 PM): LOL
spies6Ed (1:46:17 PM): Who knows, could just be that time of the month
spies6iris (1:47:09 PM): I got the feeling she was posting in character. Which is fine, but we don't need two touchy angry women on our team.
spies6Ed (1:47:34 PM): Haha, I agree wholeheartedly
spies6iris (1:50:04 PM): It's hard with the computer problem thing. I have had those problems in the past, and it sucks. But, if I were a Spy...
spies6iris (1:50:30 PM): that's exactly what I'd do...post just enough and LOUD enough, if you know what I mean, to make a presence for myself, and then lurk.
spies6Ed (1:51:42 PM): Sure, it's a good way to avoid the initial heat and just hang around till the citizens are too weak and confused to do anything
spies6Ed (2:22:03 PM): Hey, did you see Ariel's latest post?
spies6iris (2:22:49 PM): No, I'm not on the boards ATM, just chatting. What's up?
spies6Ed (2:23:27 PM): No big deal, you'll see it eventually
spies6Ed (2:23:35 PM): she's just looking for outside observations
spies6iris (2:23:51 PM): Outside like outside of our team?
spies6Ed (2:24:13 PM): No, outside of the convo btwn her and I
spies6iris (2:25:00 PM): Oh, the post is a convo between you and her?
spies6Ed (2:25:59 PM): Yep
spies6iris (2:26:52 PM): Is it making you suspicious of her?
spies6Ed (2:27:26 PM): Not really, just wondering if others agree with her assessment of our convo
spies6iris (2:28:31 PM): Okay, I'll go look.
spies6Ed signed off at 2:38:45 PM
spies6Ed (8:41:11 PM): Hello Iris
spies6iris (9:06:59 PM): Hi ed. Sorry, comp was closed.
spies6Ed (9:09:26 PM): No problem
spies6Ed (9:10:13 PM): I actually have to go soon, but did you read my post in Ariel's thread?
spies6iris (9:10:18 PM): Yes, I did.
spies6iris (9:10:48 PM): No worries. I understand. I'm not particularly suspicious of you, either. I hate the first DAY, there's so little to go on and so much room for error.
spies6Ed (9:12:03 PM): Exactly, especially because it's tough to have substantive conversations with everyone whatwith less active players and different schedules
spies6Ed (9:12:14 PM): I still haven't really talked to everyone on our team
spies6iris (9:13:13 PM): Me either. Well, I haven't talked to Mirela at all, and Callahan, it was very brief and shallow.
spies6iris (9:14:21 PM): I just tend to get frustrated because people in Mafia always suspect me for being nice, and these are people who know me, so they know my personality.
spies6Ed (9:15:08 PM): I can definitely see how that would get tiresome quickly
spies6Ed (9:15:40 PM): Again, spies can have all kinds of covers, one of them just happens to be a friendly personality
spies6Ed (9:17:09 PM): Alright, I gotta go, just know that you're not at the top of my spy list
spies6Ed signed off at 9:20:17 PM

[Iris]

Tuesday, May 19, 2009
spies6Faith (4:18:51 PM): Hi Iris!
spies6iris (4:19:04 PM): Hi Faith, how's it going? Sorry to hear you're tired!
spies6Faith (4:19:31 PM): Besides that I'm doing well.
spies6iris (4:19:37 PM): Good. :-)
spies6Faith (4:20:17 PM): I'm kind of nervous though. I havn't been around to talk to people one on one and I don't have suspects for exile or whatever. So that's scary :-(
spies6iris (4:20:40 PM): I understand. I felt that way most of today but now I'm starting to suspect one person.
spies6iris (4:21:01 PM): Do try to talk to people one on one though, it helps. :-)
spies6iris (4:21:16 PM): Apparently Ed mildly suspects you and me because we are nice.
spies6Faith (4:21:29 PM): I heard my name was brought up for that reason.
spies6Faith (4:21:48 PM): I find that kind of silly but you have to find a reason to suspect people.
spies6iris (4:22:20 PM): I find it frustrating because people always suspect me because I'm nice in all Mafia games. Now no one knows who I am here, but in my regular games...they know me, so it's annoying.
spies6Faith (4:25:43 PM): Yeah I hear you on that
spies6iris (4:25:44 PM): Have you talked to Ed or Mirela at all?
spies6Faith (4:25:55 PM): I talked to Ed the first day... but not for very long
spies6Faith (4:26:04 PM): I haven't seen Mirela at all
spies6iris (4:26:32 PM): Well, that's what's bugging me. I understand she's having Internet problems, but she posts on the boards and yet won't chat.
spies6Faith (4:30:03 PM): Yeah that's interesting.
spies6Faith (4:34:58 PM): Hopefully, she'll be able to get the fixed soon.
spies6Faith (4:35:02 PM): Or no ones going to know nayhing about her.
spies6iris (4:35:13 PM): Yes.
spies6iris (4:35:30 PM): It's an issue, because it makes her look bad, while Thor is just obviously a complete inactive.
spies6Faith (4:38:49 PM): Right. I'm hoping Thor will be replaced
spies6iris (4:52:21 PM): Me too.
spies6Faith signed off at 6:02:43 PM

[Iris]

My chats with Yvette haven't logged for some reason, which is troubling!

[Iris]

Okay, must have been a glitch. Here it is:

Monday, May 18, 2009
spies6Yvette (3:01:06 PM): Can I ask who your suspect is?
spies6iris (3:01:35 PM): Yes. Georgia. Can I ask who you're finding suspicious?
spies6Yvette (3:01:57 PM): The exact same person, dear.
spies6Yvette (3:02:15 PM): I compiled a few things about her that I did not like.
spies6iris (3:02:44 PM): Okay, that's very interesting. Well, I'd like to hear them. My evidence is one thing only, but telling.
spies6Yvette (3:03:29 PM): It's a bit lengthy, but I can summarize
spies6Yvette (3:03:40 PM): Yesterday in the first mafia mini game, she did not contribute while she was a mafia.
spies6Yvette (3:04:01 PM): Then in the second mafia mini game, she spoke her mind quite well as the cop, but played actually very unintelligibly
spies6Yvette (3:04:38 PM): I don't like that the spies knew their alignment beforehand, because it gave her the chance to pass off her "stupidity" as actual behavior
spies6Yvette (3:04:55 PM): To supplement this, her attack last night was illogical
spies6Yvette (3:05:01 PM): and she was not spy hunting, herself, one bit.
spies6iris (3:05:17 PM): Yes, I forgot about that. That was very, very strange.
spies6Yvette (3:05:28 PM): And beyond all of that, in my poll thread, she simply took an already stated idea, and vaguely echoed it, without offering originality or strong opinion.
spies6Yvette (3:05:48 PM): I just get the worst feeling about her, whether she is helpless, hopeless, or a spy, I do not know.
spies6iris (3:06:08 PM): Okay, well those are all good points, esp. the attack, which I forgot about...here's my tidbit.
spies6iris (3:07:11 PM): When we were discussing the endurance competition after Sam left, she said (paraphrasing but this is the gist of it, although I did log so I can get the exact quote if necessary)...
spies6iris (3:07:31 PM): "It would be terrible if any of the power got outside the hands of the Spies." I called her on it, I said...
spies6iris (3:07:45 PM): "Georgia, it would be terrible if power got OUTSIDE the hands of the Spies?"
spies6iris (3:08:04 PM): Then Ariel said, "Georgia, did you mean inside the hands of the spies?"
spies6iris (3:08:19 PM): She never answered either of us. Stuck around, and spoke, but never addressed that question.
spies6iris (3:08:38 PM): I could see it just being a typo when you're tired, maybe, but to not answer it at all was weird.
spies6Yvette (3:08:57 PM): I have made typos, myself, but that is quite weird to not respond.
spies6iris (3:09:52 PM): Yes. If she'd just responded that it was a typo I would have forgotten about it but the lack of response stuck in my mind.
spies6Yvette went away at 3:11:15 PM
spies6Yvette (3:11:34 PM): I will be back later, Iris!
spies6iris (3:11:40 PM): Okay, TTYL.
spies6Yvette (3:11:41 PM): I'm busy
spies6Yvette (3:55:48 PM): I am back now.
spies6Yvette (3:55:50 PM): Sorry about that.
spies6iris (3:56:29 PM): No worries, I'm about to run and take a shower though, but I'll be back in a few. All I've learned is that Robert suspects Georgia as much as we do, and as for our group, he also suspects Ed.
spies6Yvette (3:56:51 PM): Yes, although his suspicion of Georgia seems to be slightly newfounded.
spies6Yvette (3:56:57 PM): Ehrm, sorry, new founded.
spies6iris (3:57:05 PM): Well, I asked his reasoning and he gave me your reasoning.
spies6Yvette (3:57:22 PM): That is odd, he basically took my case and ran with it.
spies6Yvette (3:57:25 PM): Not to say it was not solid.
spies6Yvette (3:57:36 PM): But I had not told him exactly what I told you not two hours ago.
spies6iris (3:58:55 PM): I can't say it was exact, but it overlapped. I'll have to look at the chat logs, but a large part of it was her going after you and Ariel for discussing the blueprints.
spies6Yvette (3:59:10 PM): I am not saying I blame him for it.
spies6Yvette (3:59:15 PM): It is just... hasty, I suppose.
spies6iris (4:00:26 PM): Well, until there's further evidence, I'm tending to trust the people who are making an effort more at least, so I won't be voting for you, Robert or Ariel.
spies6Yvette (4:00:38 PM): I agree.
spies6Yvette (4:00:47 PM): I was going to try to have all of the more vocal people in our group speak together.
spies6Yvette (4:00:59 PM): I would like us to reach a mutual consensus on a vote on Tuesday, if this is possible.
spies6Yvette (4:01:45 PM): Not only will how everyone pushes for "X" or "Y" help us gather evidence in the future, but it will help us at least agree on something and work without a large part of anarchy in the group.
spies6iris (4:02:27 PM): That's a really good idea.
spies6iris (4:04:35 PM): Okay, I truly have to go take a shower but my work today will be to try to get something, anything, out of Ed, Khaled and Thor (if he exists!). And I'm in agreeing with your plan for a mutual consensus.
spies6Yvette (4:05:17 PM): Thank you, dear.
spies6Yvette (4:05:20 PM): I will talk to you later.
spies6iris (4:05:28 PM): You're welcome. TTFN! :-)
spies6iris (5:00:19 PM): Hello again. You have a suspect in our group? Who is it? I'm talking to Callahan now but it's all chit-chat. I keep trying to steer the talk to the game but it's not working.bb
spies6iris (5:00:29 PM): Sorry, sticky keyboard.
spies6Yvette (5:01:11 PM): I would rather not say as of right now, to be honest.
spies6Yvette (5:01:18 PM): I want to see what more I can gather on them.
spies6iris (5:01:29 PM): Okay, I can understand that.
spies6Yvette (5:01:31 PM): I will say that I am not so much suspicious of Ed, though, as I am just unfavorable of him.
spies6Yvette (5:01:45 PM): And would not mind his lynch as, after trying quite hard, I find him virtually unreadable
spies6iris (5:02:12 PM): Have you had real conversations with him? I've had none except "Hi, how are you?"
spies6Yvette (5:02:26 PM): I have tried, and none were successful.
spies6Yvette (5:02:40 PM): calling him standoffish is an abominable understatement
spies6iris (5:04:16 PM): Okay. That's strange. Although-- this is my first Spies game, does Sam use roles like Masons? I sometimes find that people who act like that in the beginning are masons and are afraid to talk for fear of giving away their teammates.
spies6Yvette (5:06:41 PM): He has in the past.
spies6Yvette (5:06:54 PM): But no town members have their roles yet.
spies6iris (5:08:44 PM): Oh, that wouldn't be it then. Damn, that means I can still get a role? I'm a bit nervous about that, I reread the previous games and don't even understand some of them (the ones that have to do with odds and math).
spies6Yvette (5:09:11 PM): I'm sure that if you get one, Sam will do a fine job of making sure you understand it.
spies6iris (5:10:27 PM): Is Mirela on our team? I'm looking over the people I added and I haven't come across some of them yet.
spies6Yvette (5:10:39 PM): Yes, she is.
spies6Yvette (5:11:29 PM): Ed, Khaled, Mirela, Ariel, Yvette, Callahan, Iris, Robert, Thor, Faith
spies6Yvette (5:11:32 PM): Is our group.
spies6iris (5:12:06 PM): Okay, so I've spoken (at least hello) to everyone but Mirela, Thor and Khaled.
spies6Yvette (5:12:46 PM): My list is just down to Thor and Khaled
spies6iris (5:14:23 PM): Thor never posted even in the Burg?
spies6iris (5:17:08 PM): Oh well, I have to go grocery shopping, I'm going to log off for now because my husband thinks this whole thing is nuts. Talk to you later.
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
spies6Yvette (4:38:47 PM): Hello Iris, I invited you to a chat if you can join.
spies6iris (4:50:37 PM): Hi Yvette, sorry, I went upstairs.
spies6iris (4:58:07 PM): I have to drive my kids to piano, I just wanted to tell you something. I tried to bait Ed before. In private chat, he said something totally vulgar and obnoxious. I questioned Mirela posting what seems like angrily in the boards but not chatting.
spies6iris (4:58:31 PM): His response was, "Maybe it's just that time of the month."
spies6iris (4:58:43 PM): So I ignored him and baited him to see what he'd say.
spies6iris (4:59:05 PM): I said, "Well, maybe she's posting in character but we don't need two angry, loud women in our group."
spies6iris (4:59:10 PM): He responded like that was very witty.
spies6iris (4:59:35 PM): It was bait, I was trying to see if he would badmouth you. He came short of it, but close.
spies6iris (4:59:51 PM): So while everyone else I've spoken to knows I trust you, he thinks I was badmouthing you.
spies6Yvette (5:01:20 PM): Ah.
spies6iris (5:01:54 PM): He seemed to be not promoting any ideas of his own, while jumping on suspicions others fronted. Only with Mirela he didn't do that.
spies6Yvette (5:02:34 PM): Ed is certainly fishy, I cannot wait to see how he reacts to the case against me.
spies6iris (5:02:56 PM): Yes, I'm looking forward to that too. Okay, I have to run, I'm truly late, talk to you soon.
spies6Yvette (5:04:05 PM): Goodbye dear!
spies6Yvette signed off at 5:16:31 PM

[Iris]

spies6iris (6:48:42 PM): Oh, Callahan's trying to sweet talk me now. It's kind of funny. That's an aside though.
spies6iris (6:49:07 PM): I just asked him point blank why he admitted to waiting to take a stance until he saw what other people posted.
spies6Yvette is available (6:51:18 PM)
spies6iris (6:51:19 PM): His answer was that, in Spies in particular, the first reply tends to be crucial. I asked him what he meant and he said that people will follow the first reply, whatever it says, so he wanted to hang back and see what others said first. That strikes me as circular logic. Also, he then qualified his statement by saying, 'Usually. Not always."
spies6Yvette is available (6:52:50 PM)
spies6Yvette (6:53:24 PM): This is really not true at all.
spies6Yvette (6:53:27 PM): Of most seasons.
spies6Yvette (6:53:45 PM): The first response is the opinion of someone who is willing to take a chance.
spies6Yvette is available (6:54:14 PM)
spies6Yvette (6:54:41 PM): And then after that, you will generally have dissent, not agreement.
spies6Yvette (6:55:02 PM): After the first couple of posts, there is not usually much originality brought to a response, but that defense that Callahan is arguing, is just weak and untrue.
spies6Yvette (6:55:21 PM): Oh, by the way, now that Thor is active and Robert and I are pushing each other as the "Vote them out after Callahan" case, we are both voting Callahan this week.
spies6Yvette (6:55:23 PM): I thought you should know.
spies6Yvette is available (6:55:44 PM)
spies6Yvette is available (7:07:28 PM)
spies6Yvette (6:56:53 PM): I actually genuinely believe that Callahan can turn up Spy.
spies6Yvette is available (6:57:08 PM)
spies6iris (6:57:45 PM): I am often wrong in the first couple of days of games, so I'm not confident in my own opinion yet, but he seems to be lying left and right.
spies6Yvette is available (6:59:06 PM)
spies6iris (7:07:54 PM): Hmm, now he's saying, "Most of our team are idiots" and trying to get me to agree with him. That I find really strange because I think our team has the most intelligent players on it.
spies6Yvette is available (7:34:15 PM)
spies6iris (7:34:53 PM): Okay, now he's making a pitch saying he and I should vote together. Interesting. I NEVER see town pressure to vote a certain way in mafia, only scum.
spies6Yvette (7:35:08 PM): Really?
spies6Yvette (7:35:15 PM): I think this might be a good thing to bring to the public.
spies6Yvette (7:35:22 PM): Who is he recommending to lynch?
spies6iris (7:36:00 PM): That's the funny part. He's not recommending anyone. He's asking me who I think. I'm naming Mirela as my biggest suspect. He's half agreeing with me, half defending her, and then suggesting we vote together.
spies6iris (7:36:29 PM): Okay, now he's saying Faith, Ed and Khaled.
spies6iris (7:36:36 PM): That we need to investigate them.
spies6iris (7:37:16 PM): Okay, I thought he was suggesting we vote them, he's just saying they need to investigate more.
spies6iris (7:37:22 PM): *be investigated more.
spies6Yvette (7:39:41 PM): ... This is odd.
spies6Yvette (7:39:48 PM): So he doesn't actually know who he wants to vote for?
spies6iris (7:39:54 PM): Exactly.
spies6Yvette (7:39:54 PM): I think you should press him on that.
spies6Yvette is available (7:40:28 PM)
spies6iris (7:41:13 PM): He just said he could vote Robert. I acted somewhat negative about that-- told him I COULD see Robert being a Spy but that fights like you and Robert were getting into make me nervous because on Day One they often turn out to be town v. town-- mafia terms, sorry-- and then he backed off.
spies6Yvette (7:41:42 PM): Then if my case against Robert was so bad, why would he vote for Robert?
spies6Yvette is available (7:42:11 PM)
spies6iris (7:42:30 PM): It looks like the only reason is because I said I would vote for Robert.
spies6Yvette (7:42:42 PM): He is so scummy I cannot handle it.
spies6Yvette (7:42:48 PM): I am going to go for now, I think I will be back later.
spies6iris (7:43:05 PM): Okay. TTYL. I'm going to keep talking to him to see what else he says.
spies6Yvette (7:43:21 PM): Thank you.
spies6iris (7:43:27 PM): You're welcome.
spies6Yvette is available (9:48:55 PM)
spies6iris (9:49:11 PM): I can't chat right now, but I just posted the log of my chat with Callahan in our workroom.
spies6iris (9:50:07 PM): It shows his meta-gaming reasoning for admitting that he was waiting to see what everyone else did before taking a stand on the you v. Robert issue.
spies6iris (9:50:25 PM): It also shows him saying our team is made up of idiots, and then asking me to vote with him. And the flip-flopping on Robert.
spies6iris (9:50:46 PM): God, I would make a terrible Spy, I feel so sneaky and scummy posting a private conversation likethat, but it was pretty damning.