spies6ellis (2:34:33 PM): Hi
spies6Jenya (2:34:39 PM): Hi Ellis.
spies6ellis (2:34:42 PM): Do me a favor
spies6ellis (2:34:50 PM): tell me what my icon says now, am I idle?
spies6ellis (2:35:58 PM): Hello?
spies6ellis (2:36:21 PM): ok wait a sec, I'm going to sign off and back on again
spies6ellis signed off at 2:36:28 PM
spies6ellis signed on at 2:36:34 PM
spies6ellis (2:36:44 PM): OK how about now?
spies6Jenya (2:42:06 PM): You're not "Away"
spies6ellis (2:42:19 PM): Oh good
spies6ellis (2:42:39 PM): You remember if I was when I spoke to you this afternoon?
spies6Jenya (2:42:45 PM): You were.
spies6Jenya (2:42:56 PM): It was a little fishy, you might want to watch that.
spies6ellis (2:43:03 PM): Well that explains why people haven't been talking to me.
spies6ellis (2:43:07 PM): No, I think I've fixed it now.
spies6Jenya (2:43:11 PM): Yeah Jason wanted to talk to you.
spies6ellis (2:43:21 PM): I wanted to talk to him, I just didn't have time.
spies6ellis (2:44:15 PM): So what have I walked into? Are we all spies now?
spies6Jenya (2:44:33 PM): No, Yvette was just being a bit of a jerk.
spies6ellis (2:44:37 PM): lol
spies6Jenya (2:44:48 PM): I'm pretty sure she's a guy. Women don't cat like that.
spies6ellis (2:45:09 PM): ...
spies6Jenya (2:45:17 PM): Oops, no offense, Ellis.
spies6ellis (2:45:25 PM): "No we'd never be that bitchy. FYI she's actually a man."
spies6ellis (2:45:56 PM): You are so lucky I don't copy conversations like this to other people.
spies6Jenya (2:46:08 PM): Ha.
spies6Jenya (2:46:12 PM): Don't you dare, Ellis.
spies6ellis (2:46:20 PM): Don't worry, I wouldn't.
spies6Jenya (2:47:04 PM): It seems like everyone on all teams thinks Almathea is a spy.
spies6Jenya (2:47:29 PM): That's possibly a bad sign, you'd think her spy friends would be protecting her if she was a spy.
spies6ellis (2:47:44 PM): It's quite possible she only has one spy friend in our group
spies6ellis (2:47:55 PM): which is the only one with real influence right now.
spies6Jenya (2:48:56 PM): Hopefully she comes on, she's the vote leader it seems and I need to figure out if that's the right thing to do.
spies6ellis (2:49:24 PM): Well it would be nice if the majority were right for once.
spies6ellis (2:49:33 PM): Also, not everyone thinks so.
spies6ellis (2:49:39 PM): Paris didn't even post anything about her.
spies6ellis (2:51:10 PM): OK, can I speak frankly here?
spies6Jenya (2:51:12 PM): Yup.
spies6ellis (2:51:25 PM): OK, this is NOT for the burg.
spies6ellis (2:51:39 PM): So Rey came to me with a case against Alma, who I admit I'd barely considered before then.
spies6Jenya (2:51:42 PM): Ok, I can keep a good secret if you ask nicely.
spies6ellis (2:51:47 PM): He told me to look at the group chat, which I did
spies6ellis (2:51:52 PM): looking only at her statements.
spies6ellis (2:52:04 PM): And EVERYTHING she says is either stabbing someone else in the back
spies6ellis (2:52:07 PM): or trying to appear nice.
spies6ellis (2:52:17 PM): There is literally nothing else that she does in that entire chat.
spies6ellis (2:52:31 PM): Try it yourself - just search for her name, see what comes up.
spies6Jenya (2:52:34 PM): Think that's spy behavior?
spies6Jenya (2:52:49 PM): Talk trash behind backs
spies6ellis (2:52:53 PM): Let me see... she stays under the radar but visible
spies6Jenya (2:52:57 PM): Kiss up to their faces
spies6Jenya (2:53:00 PM): Yeah, that fits.
spies6ellis (2:53:04 PM): she is friends with everyone
spies6ellis (2:53:13 PM): but she makes suggestions in public of how they might be guilty
spies6ellis (2:53:20 PM): and then lets everyone else argue amongst themselves.
spies6ellis (2:53:27 PM): Looked to me as though she were looking for a victim.
spies6ellis (2:53:35 PM): So yes, I'd say that's exactly what I'd expect a spy to behave.
spies6Jenya (2:54:14 PM): Does that apply to anyone else?
spies6Jenya (2:54:18 PM): Or just her?
spies6ellis (2:54:28 PM): Well let me go through them.
spies6ellis (2:54:40 PM): Tiberius... he's a friendly guy.
spies6ellis (2:54:58 PM): He doesn't trash talk much, and his actions during the opening chat look innocent to me, unless he's a very good actor.
spies6ellis (2:55:10 PM): You... I think you've got a great technique for spy hunting, and that's what you're using it for.
spies6ellis (2:55:24 PM): Rey... he's the one who tipped me off about Alma, and obviously if she's a spy, he's probably not.
spies6ellis (2:55:57 PM): Paris - if he's on our side, he's helpful, otherwise he's dangerous. I don't like that he forgot Alma in his own analysis.
spies6ellis (2:56:23 PM): The rest, I'm still unsure, although Gabriela and Jaya still acted very oddly over the Jocelyn "statement".
spies6Jenya (2:56:24 PM): I noticed that big time,.
spies6Jenya (2:56:29 PM): Paris forgetting Almathea.
spies6ellis (2:56:55 PM): If there's an investigator about, Paris would be a good target, I'd like to know where he stands.
spies6Jenya (2:57:01 PM): yea hreally.
spies6ellis (2:57:05 PM): If there is, I don't know who it is though.
spies6Jenya (2:57:15 PM): I agreed with a lot of Gabriela's post
spies6Jenya (2:57:25 PM): So I will give her the benefit of the doubt until I talk to her.
spies6Jenya (2:57:35 PM): Jaya's post was terrible.
spies6ellis (2:57:50 PM): I'm in two minds about Jaya.
spies6ellis (2:58:06 PM): A lot of people seem to be considering her, and I think a few unfortunate words might have made her an easy scapegoat.
spies6ellis (2:58:14 PM): I don't want to be responsible for taking her out if she's a citizen.
spies6Jenya (2:58:31 PM): Which words?
spies6ellis (2:58:38 PM): The ones I pointed out.
spies6ellis (2:58:43 PM): And Paris earlier on, if you remember.
spies6Jenya (2:58:52 PM): I think I mised those.
spies6ellis (2:58:55 PM): So many people have mentioned Jaya as a suspect.
spies6ellis (3:00:00 PM): Here we are.
spies6ellis (3:00:18 PM): 13:31:52 Paris: is what jaya said genuine?
13:32:07 Paris: when she asked if there are 3 or 4 spies after sam announced 7?
13:32:08 Jenya: Good question.
spies6ellis (3:00:27 PM): Things like that.
spies6Jenya (3:01:10 PM): Oh, I don't factor that in much
spies6Jenya (3:01:25 PM): It'd be a dumb thing to say as either Cit or Spy.
spies6ellis (3:01:42 PM): I agree, but Paris seemed to think it was significant.
spies6ellis (3:01:56 PM): This is the thing with Jaya, people are coming up with all kinds of little reasons to suspect her
spies6ellis (3:02:07 PM): And I'm not sure... it feels fishy.
spies6Jenya (3:02:12 PM): She's given us so little to work with
spies6ellis (3:02:21 PM): Oh, I agree with that.
spies6Jenya (3:02:23 PM): I won't lock in on her until I talk with her.
spies6Jenya (3:02:32 PM): But she is close to the top of my list right now.
spies6Jenya (3:02:51 PM): I think a spy with no clue how to play might just panic and hide and not say much
spies6Jenya (3:02:56 PM): Hoping not to screw up.
spies6Jenya (3:03:10 PM): And then maybe get a suggestion for who to suspect from their spy friends
spies6Jenya (3:03:17 PM): And copy it word for word
spies6ellis (3:03:33 PM): Ugh, this is why I wish I could talk to Gabriele more.
spies6ellis (3:03:52 PM): What you've just said fits her so much better than it fits Jaya, who was around a lot at the start but not so much recently.
spies6ellis (3:04:11 PM): But everyone says Gabriele is just naive and not a threat, and they could be completely right on that.
spies6Jenya (3:04:42 PM): Gabriela's suspicions seemed pretty reasonable
spies6Jenya (3:04:52 PM): And not forced or fake
spies6ellis (3:05:26 PM): I don't know... superficially I agree.
spies6Jenya (3:05:28 PM): Like right now I think the spies on our team will look for a weak sheep and attack them
spies6Jenya (3:05:33 PM): Who do you think those sheep are?
spies6ellis (3:05:50 PM): Jocelyn, Alma, Gabriele, you
spies6ellis (3:05:57 PM): For one reason or another
spies6Jenya (3:06:13 PM): yeah
spies6Jenya (3:06:20 PM): No one seems interested in Gab though
spies6Jenya (3:06:30 PM): So it's Joc, Alma, me and maybe Jaya
spies6ellis (3:06:44 PM): As potential weak sheep
spies6ellis (3:06:49 PM): Yes, I'd say that was fair
spies6Jenya (3:07:07 PM): Jaya, to her credit, didn't leap on Jocelyn
spies6ellis (3:07:09 PM): I think they've probably given you up as a target unless there's something on I don't know baout
spies6ellis (3:07:16 PM): No, she was more subtle
spies6ellis (3:07:20 PM): And there is my problem
spies6ellis (3:07:29 PM): Anyway, can you give me ten minutes here
spies6Jenya (3:07:33 PM): sure
spies6ellis (3:07:34 PM): I'll be back then
spies6ellis (3:15:38 PM): ok I'm going to talk to Pete for a bit
spies6ellis (3:15:45 PM): I think we need to talk anyway
spies6Jenya (3:15:55 PM): ok
spies6Jenya (3:16:00 PM): see you in a bit
spies6ellis (3:16:11 PM): see you then
spies6ellis (3:36:27 PM): Almathea: okay crytonite (lol) i have just gotten word (and from a fellow team mate) that i am being suspected heavily; reasons this team mate told me to ask around - even people on other teams!
spies6ellis (3:36:30 PM): Any ideas about this?
spies6ellis (3:37:36 PM): I haven't said a thing to anyone on another team
spies6Jenya (3:37:37 PM): Yeah I told her she's heavily suspected.
spies6Jenya (3:37:50 PM): And that she should ask around because if she's a cit she's in big trouble.
spies6Jenya (3:38:09 PM): People like Ariel said the hearsay is that Alma is a spy.
spies6Jenya (3:38:20 PM): A few others too.
spies6ellis (3:38:23 PM): Well I haven't said a thing to Ariel
spies6ellis (3:38:29 PM): But it wouldn't surpirse me if others have
spies6ellis (3:38:34 PM): Poor Alma
spies6ellis (3:38:36 PM): Whatever she is
spies6Jenya (3:38:57 PM): If she's a cit, she has a day to get herself safe.
spies6Jenya (3:39:05 PM): Then we'd have to pick someone else.
spies6ellis (3:39:21 PM): That's what worries me.
spies6Jenya (3:39:24 PM): Right.
spies6Jenya (3:39:28 PM): I'm certainly not safe.
spies6ellis (3:39:30 PM): If she's NOT a cit, the spies are going to be working overtime.
spies6Jenya (3:39:34 PM): Well, true.
spies6ellis (3:39:37 PM): Find another victim.
spies6Jenya (3:39:41 PM): But it's better to see the discussion.
spies6ellis (3:39:41 PM): Let's say... for example... us?
spies6Jenya (3:39:44 PM): Yeah.
spies6Jenya (3:39:55 PM): I know if Alma clears herself I am #2 or #3 on th list
spies6Jenya (3:40:09 PM): But I had to tell her in case she is not a spy.
spies6Jenya (4:29:43 PM): There she goes again.
Friday, May 22, 2009
spies6ellis (10:01:52 AM): Hi.
spies6Jenya (10:02:11 AM): Whee! Hi Ellis.
spies6Jenya (10:02:18 AM): I'm still giddy about last night.
spies6ellis (10:02:24 AM): lol me too
spies6ellis (10:02:36 AM): I was waiting for Sam to say "Almathea is a citizen"
spies6Jenya (10:02:41 AM): Nah.
spies6Jenya (10:02:48 AM): I wasn't so sure, but
spies6Jenya (10:02:58 AM): We picked the best choice by far in our group
spies6ellis (10:03:07 AM): well D'UH!
spies6Jenya (10:03:13 AM): You did a real good job yesterday
spies6ellis (10:03:20 AM): So did you and Jason
spies6Jenya (10:03:20 AM): Blocking out Jaya as a possibility.
spies6Jenya (10:03:32 AM): I was still a little torn on her.
spies6ellis (10:03:42 AM): Yes, that could've gone so wrong
spies6Jenya (10:03:44 AM): Yeah.
spies6Jenya (10:03:48 AM): You took a big risk
spies6Jenya (10:04:01 AM): Unless you're a spy I suppose and really wanted to bus your partner badly lol
spies6ellis (10:04:08 AM): lol
spies6Jenya (10:04:18 AM): But you could have so easily saved Alma
spies6ellis (10:04:20 AM): I wish she'd voted for me though
spies6ellis (10:04:27 AM): Jaya, I mean
spies6ellis (10:04:42 AM): I suggested it to her but she didn't go through with it
spies6Jenya (10:04:50 AM): How would you rank people as far as how instrumental they were in nailing Alma?
spies6ellis (10:05:08 AM): Rey and Jason were #1 and #2 without any doubt
spies6ellis (10:05:15 AM): I just followed them, so did everyone else I think
spies6Jenya (10:05:20 AM): Any concern about Rey changing his mind at the last minute?
spies6Jenya (10:05:28 AM): I think that's natureal.
spies6ellis (10:05:31 AM): Not really
spies6Jenya (10:05:34 AM): Yeah I agree.
spies6ellis (10:05:36 AM): The day before
spies6Jenya (10:05:40 AM): He felt bad if she was a cit
spies6ellis (10:05:41 AM): I switched my vote three or four times at least
spies6ellis (10:05:45 AM): and didn't tell anyone, lol
spies6Jenya (10:05:51 AM): It's hard to vote for a nice person
spies6Jenya (10:06:01 AM): Jason seemed pretty sure all along
spies6ellis (10:06:14 AM): I think, after the conversation in the chatroom the night before
spies6Jenya (10:06:17 AM): Not super overly sure but pretty sure
spies6ellis (10:06:22 AM): it was just obvious that Jaya was being framed
spies6Jenya (10:06:35 AM): If Alma came up cit you were near the top of my list
spies6ellis (10:06:38 AM): And after that... it was only going to go one way
spies6ellis (10:06:55 AM): If Alma came up cit, I would have already voted Rey.
spies6Jenya (10:06:58 AM): Yeah, Joc almost screwed it up though
spies6Jenya (10:07:15 AM): Are you and I on the same team now?
spies6ellis (10:07:21 AM): Yes.
spies6ellis (10:07:28 AM): Rey and Tiberius aren't though.
spies6Jenya (10:07:54 AM): Yeah that stinks
spies6Jenya (10:08:06 AM): But we'll get to know other people better I guess
spies6Jenya (10:08:12 AM): Any clue on Roxy?
spies6ellis (10:08:14 AM): lol
spies6ellis (10:08:17 AM): I've barely met anyone
spies6ellis (10:08:27 AM): I can't think Roxy is a spy unless there is only one spy in that group
spies6ellis (10:08:39 AM): I mean, would two spies let one of them get exiled with four votes?
spies6Jenya (10:08:45 AM): True, huh
spies6Jenya (10:08:57 AM): Maybe they were too scared to kill a cit
spies6ellis (10:09:00 AM): No, I think Ariel made a good choice there
spies6Jenya (10:09:03 AM): And be the one responsible
spies6Jenya (10:09:13 AM): Did you see who wanted Alma saved?
spies6ellis (10:09:24 AM): I have the chat log, lol
spies6Jenya (10:09:33 AM): Levi, Paris, Yvette
spies6Jenya (10:09:35 AM): a few others
spies6Jenya (10:09:43 AM): I'm not sure a spy would be that blatant though
spies6Jenya (10:09:59 AM): I love that we caught a spy the first day
spies6Jenya (10:10:07 AM): Never been done before in 5 years!
spies6ellis (10:10:22 AM): I still can't believe that we pulled it off
spies6ellis (10:10:26 AM): I say "we"
spies6ellis (10:10:31 AM): It was two people really
spies6ellis (10:10:39 AM): And i'm really, really scared for them now
spies6Jenya (10:11:24 AM): Do you have a top 5 cit list right now?
spies6Jenya (10:11:32 AM): Mine would probably be you, Rey, Ariel
spies6ellis (10:11:38 AM): Not really
spies6Jenya (10:11:42 AM): Jason, Gabriela
spies6ellis (10:11:54 AM): I would say there's no way you, Rey, Jason, Ariel, Jaya or a few others would be spies
spies6Jenya (10:12:15 AM): If I were a spy I'd kill ariel, but isnt she protected?
spies6Jenya (10:12:26 AM): I think her role got her protection
spies6ellis (10:12:27 AM): Yes, and if I were a spy (I'm not)
spies6ellis (10:12:31 AM): I'd kill one of our team.
spies6Jenya (10:12:34 AM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:12:38 AM): That's the reward for getting it right day one.
spies6ellis (10:12:46 AM): You get to be imprisoned, taken out of the game.
spies6Jenya (10:12:48 AM): Rey, Jason top two choices
spies6Jenya (10:13:09 AM): Which do you think is more in danger?
spies6ellis (10:13:19 AM): Oh, Rey, without any doubt
spies6Jenya (10:13:24 AM): Poor rey
spies6ellis (10:13:31 AM): I really hope there's a doc about
spies6Jenya (10:13:36 AM): Yeah.
spies6ellis (10:13:41 AM): (you know what the doc role is in mafia?)
spies6Jenya (10:13:45 AM): There was one in the last game, I just read a little of it.
spies6Jenya (10:13:57 AM): He saved someone the 1st day!
spies6ellis (10:14:07 AM): wow
spies6ellis (10:14:19 AM): How did he manage that? Were the teams split again?
spies6Jenya (10:14:20 AM): I read day one, they exiled a citizen with a role
spies6Jenya (10:14:23 AM): No
spies6ellis (10:14:32 AM): So he chose one person out of thirty something?
spies6Jenya (10:14:33 AM): The episode was called "one in a million"
spies6Jenya (10:14:36 AM): yeah
spies6ellis (10:14:39 AM): That's amazing
spies6Jenya (10:14:46 AM): Yeah maybe we'll get lucky too
spies6Jenya (10:14:55 AM): I would hate to see Rey go.
spies6Jenya (10:15:08 AM): But maybe not everyone sees how townish he is?
spies6ellis (10:15:24 AM): After his post in the burg... I don't know
spies6ellis (10:15:33 AM): I would rather work between ourselves
spies6Jenya (10:15:39 AM): Hmm?
spies6ellis (10:15:41 AM): I mean, there's no way you or Jaya or Rey or Jason are spies
spies6Jenya (10:15:53 AM): And we're split up now
spies6ellis (10:15:54 AM): Why bring potential spies into it until we need to?
spies6ellis (10:16:06 AM): And I'm with a new group of people that I've never even met, lol
spies6Jenya (10:16:29 AM): You, me, Jason
spies6Jenya (10:16:37 AM): Gabriela, Paris
spies6Jenya (10:16:51 AM): Robert, Khaled, Amelia, Mei Yun
spies6Jenya (10:17:05 AM): Boris, Iris, Mirela, Oswald, Levi, Faith
spies6ellis (10:17:17 AM): Mei Yun I spoke to once before exile
spies6Jenya (10:17:18 AM): By the way, Callahan thought Khaled was a good guy
spies6ellis (10:17:21 AM): Levi before the opening chat
spies6Jenya (10:17:24 AM): And Rey
spies6ellis (10:17:27 AM): And that's about it, lol
spies6Jenya (10:17:36 AM): Yeah we have a lot of work to do.
spies6ellis (10:17:37 AM): So basically I don't know any of these people
spies6ellis (10:17:44 AM): and now I have to start again
spies6ellis (10:17:52 AM): and hope that someone tells me who the second spy is
spies6Jenya (10:17:55 AM): lol
spies6ellis (10:17:57 AM): because I didn't have a clue the first time!
spies6Jenya (10:18:13 AM): Think Paris is suspicious?
spies6ellis (10:18:36 AM): Well he didn't even mention Almathea in his burg post where he talked about all of us
spies6Jenya (10:18:41 AM): Right
spies6Jenya (10:18:48 AM): And when I put him on the spot about his "several chats"
spies6ellis (10:18:53 AM): I've played forum mafia before, scum hate mentioning each other
spies6Jenya (10:18:55 AM): he just mentioned alma and got all flustered
spies6ellis (10:19:03 AM): In case they give anything away
spies6ellis (10:19:06 AM): So yes
spies6ellis (10:19:17 AM): I think right now everyone from our team is probably suspecting Paris
spies6ellis (10:19:33 AM): Also he thought Jaya would be exiled, and later on he wasn't around when the exile changed
spies6Jenya (10:19:36 AM): Yeah
spies6ellis (10:20:02 AM): I don't know whether that's good enough to exile him
spies6ellis (10:20:04 AM): but...
spies6ellis (10:20:15 AM): It may not even matter, let's see what happens
spies6Jenya (10:20:29 AM): At least the spies have lots of good guys to pick from so no one is in all the danger
spies6Jenya (10:20:44 AM): though i do agree rey is in the most trouble