Post by Boris on May 25, 2009 23:58:12 GMT -5
7:37:29 PM Jenya: What did you make?
7:37:31 PM Jenya: LOL
7:37:37 PM Jason: Pelmeni?
7:37:43 PM Jason: I think is how its spelled
7:37:48 PM Boris: lol?
7:37:51 PM Jenya: Russian pasta?
7:37:54 PM Jason: Yes
7:37:54 PM Levi: I feel so uncultured
7:37:57 PM Jason: It looked so easy
7:38:15 PM Jason: That got Boris' attention lol
7:38:29 PM Boris: in russia, pasta makes you
7:38:34 PM Boris: hahahaha fuck you
7:38:42 PM Boris: i hate that man
7:38:48 PM Mirela: hello :]
7:39:00 PM Jason: lol
7:39:05 PM Levi: Oh, hi Boris!
7:39:51 PM Levi: hi Oswald!
7:39:54 PM Oswald: hi Levi!
7:39:56 PM Levi: Awwww, a good group chat is going
7:40:02 PM Levi: ANd I'm gonna have to leave for dinner soon
7:40:03 PM Levi: :-(
7:40:08 PM MeiYun: oswald should be in here
7:40:09 PM Levi: But I'll be back shortly afterward
7:40:13 PM MeiYun: the thing is ellis is set for paris
7:40:16 PM Oswald: i'm in here now
7:40:23 PM Oswald: Ellis wants to Exile Paris?
7:40:24 PM MeiYun: i dont know what jenya is thinking
7:40:32 PM Mirela: whose not here right now
7:40:46 PM MeiYun: thats from what i "deduct"
7:40:50 PM Jason: Hi Oswald
7:40:51 PM Jason: And yes
7:40:53 PM Jason: He does lol
7:40:57 PM Oswald: hi Jason, nice to finally meet you
7:41:05 PM Jason: spies6ellis (7:23:25 PM): Hi Jason
spies6ellis (7:23:34 PM): Might as well say I'm voting paris
spies6jason (7:23:36 PM): Hey Ellis, we made it!
spies6jason (7:23:39 PM): I sort of figured that...
7:41:12 PM Jason: Same to you, Oswald
7:41:17 PM Oswald: is Ellis' decision simply predicated on the fact that Paris wanted to save Almathea?
7:41:34 PM Mirela: paris didn't put her on his list of suspicions
7:41:54 PM Jason: Yeah he omitted her completely, but I can see that being an honest mistake
7:42:33 PM Oswald: So yes, the only reason we are really suspecting Paris is because of the Almathea vote (its fine I just want to get my facts straight)
7:42:33 PM Mirela: did paris talk with alma a lot? did they seem to be friends?
7:42:56 PM MeiYun: from what i see almathea "respected" paris
7:43:16 PM Mirela: respected?
7:43:23 PM Jason: Yeah the case is... Alma and Paris seem to have close ties
7:43:33 PM Mirela: hmm
7:43:40 PM Jason: Like... Alma would always ask to speaj to Paris, and she'd say he seems like a cit whenever she talked about him
7:43:44 PM Levi: Paris left Alma off of a suspect list
7:43:54 PM Oswald: OK
7:44:07 PM Levi: Guys, I'll be back in a bit
7:44:19 PM Levi: I'm not signing off, but I'll be afk
7:44:21 PM Jason: You're LEAVING us, Leave Eye?
7:44:25 PM Levi: Just for a little bit
7:44:39 PM Oswald: I wish Paris were here, I'd really love to here his defense at some point, but he's never around.
7:45:01 PM MeiYun: he was here last night and i think he saw my announcement last night
7:45:18 PM Oswald: ok well maybe we give him some time and see if he shows up
7:45:47 PM Boris: i am feeling that sometimes people do not wish to deal with their accusations in games like this
7:45:54 PM Boris: and choose to ignore game when that happens
7:45:58 PM Boris: perhaps that is what is happening
7:46:02 PM Mirela: that might mean something
7:46:09 PM Mirela: inactivity can really hurt you in this game
7:46:15 PM Boris: yes, it can
7:46:21 PM Oswald: is that a sign of Spy or Cit though Boris
7:46:27 PM Oswald: and hello new Mirela.
7:46:46 PM Mirela: hello oswald :]
7:47:06 PM MeiYun: Mirela: yes, Alma sa Paris as a leader as evidence by her rundown description of people on her team
7:47:10 PM MeiYun: *saw
7:47:10 PM Boris: i feel it is more a sign of spy then cit
7:47:19 PM Boris: especially if they are not feeling good after loosing team member
7:47:28 PM Jason: I can see it being either, but yeah... disappearing hoping it blows over could be really Spyish
7:47:48 PM Jason: especially since he was on the team with Jocelyn hearing people say they don't want to vote her out without giving her a chance to defend herself
7:47:54 PM Mirela: maybe he knows he's going to go?
7:47:59 PM Mirela: like he feels it coming
7:48:10 PM Oswald: so that's essentially two strikes for Paris right now (unless he shows)
7:48:28 PM Mirela: well its really early in the game
7:48:31 PM Mirela: someone has to leave
7:48:53 PM Mirela: and the most evidence right now is on paris
7:48:58 PM Oswald: Mirela that's not exactly the right attitude ha, the RIGHT person needs to leave
7:48:59 PM MeiYun: still, mirela we have to make the most informed decision on the strongest case
7:49:09 PM Boris: may i ask, has anyone talked to amelia?
7:49:13 PM Mirela: paris seems like the strongest case so far
7:49:42 PM Oswald: NOBODY talks to Amelia, she just accuses of inactivity and disappears into the ethos, LOL
7:50:15 PM Boris: fantastic
7:50:22 PM MeiYun: do you want to make a fake amelia thread lol?
7:50:23 PM Jason: Does Amelia exist?
7:50:31 PM MeiYun: to get her talking?
7:50:34 PM Oswald: haha I challenge that she does NOT!
7:50:35 PM Oswald: LOL
7:50:46 PM Jason: I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, or Amelia
7:50:51 PM Mirela: haha
7:51:14 PM Boris: we could call her amelia eirheart
7:51:24 PM Jason: lol
7:51:25 PM Boris: she disapeared
7:51:26 PM Oswald: LOL Boris
7:51:29 PM Jason: Amelia Spyhard
7:51:56 PM Jason: Actually Boris' makes way more sense
7:52:07 PM Jason: she must have flown into a storm
7:52:34 PM Boris: yes
7:52:43 PM Mirela: she looks like the type
7:52:46 PM Oswald: but honestly I can't accuse Amelia either way I don't know her at all
7:53:12 PM Boris: yes, that is ultimate conclusion
7:53:56 PM Mirela: what do you guys think of Faith?
7:54:15 PM Boris: also have not talked to her
7:54:16 PM Jason: I haven't talked to her one on one yet
7:54:27 PM Oswald: Faith is...interesting
7:54:29 PM MeiYun: faith is my girl! ::-)
7:54:33 PM Mirela: why's that oswad?
7:54:36 PM Mirela: oswald*
7:55:24 PM Oswald: well she always is *giggling* ha
7:55:28 PM Oswald: which is fine but interesting
7:55:34 PM Oswald: let me see I have to look at my chat with her
7:55:45 PM Jason: Giggling like a little girl or like a Spy making evil plans?
7:55:45 PM MeiYun: OSWALD I GIGGLE
7:55:49 PM Boris: better then the amused c sharp
7:55:54 PM Jason: LOL
7:55:55 PM MeiYun: LOL@ Boris
7:56:12 PM Jason: I don't understand what that means... And I haven't cared enough to ask
7:56:19 PM Mirela: haha
7:56:28 PM Oswald: Mei Yun you don't type *giggles*
7:56:38 PM Oswald: LOL @ Boris
7:56:49 PM MeiYun: i sometimes do! i havent done it in a while i think!
7:56:54 PM MeiYun: i think i did it with georgia
7:56:55 PM Oswald: my first convo with Faith was about how she suspects Levi
7:57:03 PM MeiYun: and she said *giggle* is not an answer to anything
7:57:08 PM Oswald: you haven't done it with me ::thanks god::
7:57:30 PM Mirela: thats pretty blunt
7:58:01 PM Mirela: i laughed so hard when i read this one topic, where mei yun and georgia were fighting each other
7:58:09 PM Oswald: the second chat with Faith she said that her vote is with Levi right now but that she suspected Robert and was wrong about that
7:58:12 PM Mirela: and she put a picture of her eyes or something
7:58:56 PM Oswald: Faith also told me she thinks Khaled, Gabriela and Ellis are Cits
7:59:15 PM Mirela: hmm
7:59:32 PM Oswald: I get a mostly Cit vibe from Faith right now
7:59:35 PM Oswald: Others?
7:59:40 PM Boris: i currently agree with the ellis sentement
8:00:02 PM Boris: i must talk more with khaled and gabriela
8:00:12 PM Mirela: i have not talked to them at all
8:00:26 PM Jason: Yeah Ellis feels pretty safe, especially after what he did to get Alma
8:02:17 PM MeiYun: oh lets talk about something interesting
8:02:25 PM Oswald: ok!
8:02:26 PM MeiYun: NEGATIVE VOTES!
8:02:29 PM MeiYun: the minus votes!
8:02:29 PM Oswald: WOO HOO
8:02:31 PM Oswald: ha
8:02:36 PM Boris: that is a good thing
8:02:45 PM MeiYun: how is everybody planning to use it?
8:02:45 PM Boris: oh, and mirela, i did not realize you were a new person
8:02:54 PM Oswald: Yeah Sam just posted about it Boris
8:03:03 PM Jason: It depends how the vote looks...
8:03:06 PM Boris: yes, i just read the thread
8:03:10 PM MeiYun: mirela has been possessed...
8:03:14 PM Oswald: are we voting just on our team, or for both?
8:03:16 PM Mirela: yes i am new
8:03:21 PM MeiYun: on our team i think
8:03:24 PM Boris: if someone i think is a citizen is going to be voted for, I will use my minus vote
8:03:26 PM Mirela: a spirit possessed me
8:03:38 PM Mirela: but its gone, so now i'm back to normal
8:03:41 PM Jason: yeah, same for me, Boris
8:03:49 PM Boris: if it is someone i do not know about, i am not sure what I will do with it
8:03:58 PM Oswald: don't we have to use both?
8:04:07 PM Boris: perhaps then i would just vote for a person i am certain of
8:04:08 PM Boris: yes
8:04:13 PM Oswald: I see
8:04:41 PM Oswald: well it seems everyone is certain of Ellis
8:04:48 PM MeiYun: would you throw a minus vote for Ellis?
8:05:05 PM Mirela: i would
8:05:38 PM Boris: currently yes, though i think no one is going to be voting for him
8:05:39 PM Oswald: Having not talked to Ellis at all except for about 10 seconds, I am not sure I would give him my minus just yet
8:05:53 PM Jason: I don't think everyone should minus vote Ellis...
8:05:55 PM Iris: Hi guys! Thanks Mei Yun.
8:05:56 PM MeiYun: so we exile iris right?
8:05:59 PM Boris: he is basically the default for me, unless something dire happens
8:06:03 PM Oswald: yes exiliing of Iris
8:06:04 PM Boris: yes
8:06:05 PM Oswald: OH HI IRIS
8:06:07 PM MeiYun: oh!
8:06:07 PM Iris: Um...hello? :-)
8:06:08 PM Jason: I mean that's like saying "Hey Spies, we all trust Ellis, have fun Imprisoning him"
8:06:13 PM MeiYun: :-(
8:06:13 PM Boris: she is the scummiest of the scum
8:06:28 PM Iris: Why am I getting exiled? For havng a life on Memorial Day weekend?
8:06:31 PM MeiYun: shhh! iris is here!
8:06:35 PM Mirela: hello iris
8:06:36 PM Boris: oh, i did not notice
8:06:39 PM Boris: HELLO IRIS
8:06:41 PM MeiYun: no iris we need you to address something
8:06:44 PM Iris: HI! :-)
8:06:45 PM Iris: Okay.
8:06:47 PM MeiYun: gimme a moment
8:07:00 PM Jason: Hi Iris
8:07:06 PM Oswald: Hiris
8:07:32 PM Iris: Hi Jason, Hi Oswald.
8:07:36 PM Levi: I'm back
8:07:40 PM Iris: Hi back!
8:07:51 PM Levi: LOL @ Iris
8:07:51 PM Jason: Welcome back Return Eye
8:07:58 PM Levi: LOL @ Jason
8:08:00 PM Oswald: that was a quick meal
8:08:07 PM MeiYun: Iris, there is suspicion on that Yvette vs Robert was a leaked plan
8:08:09 PM Levi: I was eating with my family
8:08:11 PM MeiYun: read this
8:08:12 PM MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=762
8:08:12 PM Levi: We don't talk much
8:08:23 PM Levi: In fact, I tried to get away from them ASAP
8:08:32 PM Levi: But enought about me, what'd I miss from the chat?
8:08:55 PM MeiYun: where to use minus votes!
8:10:14 PM Oswald: well the more I think about it the more I am willing to put a stake down and say that I think Levi is getting a bad wrap and I would be inclined to use one on him.
8:10:24 PM Levi: I feel loved
8:10:29 PM Levi: :-)
8:10:48 PM MeiYun: is levi... you know... liek swinging both ways
8:10:58 PM Oswald: haha
8:10:59 PM Levi: The thing is, most of those accusing me are on other teams
8:11:06 PM Levi: Wow Mei, wow
8:11:19 PM Oswald: maybe she means between spy and cit Levi
8:11:27 PM Levi: I don't think that's what she means . . .
8:11:29 PM Mirela: is iris still here?
8:11:39 PM Oswald: who would know
8:11:48 PM Mirela: iris darling, are you there?
8:12:22 PM MeiYun: i sent her to read or something
8:12:32 PM Oswald: Multitasking hard.
8:12:41 PM Iris: Um, okay.
8:12:42 PM Iris: I read.
8:12:56 PM Iris: And I'm getting suspected because Yvette says she trusted me the least? That's rich.
8:14:10 PM Jenya: Hi Iris.
8:14:16 PM Iris: Hi Jenya.
8:14:27 PM MeiYun: also iris, when we were like in pleading stage
8:14:39 PM MeiYun: like ariel was deliberating did you still "forget" to save callahan?
8:14:42 PM Jenya: What's your take on the whole Robert Yvette plan now, Iris?
8:14:43 PM Levi: This is a new development
8:15:05 PM Oswald: Iris, that is my big bone of contention that when Ariel asked to hear pleas you never stepped up to save Calahan
8:15:39 PM Iris: Mei Yun, it never once occurred to me to try to save him. I guess that was stupid, I can see that now. Two reasons:
8:16:05 PM Levi: In Iris's defense
8:16:13 PM Iris: 1. Callahan was convinced that we would learn A LOT from who voted him out. Of course, that turned out to be not true because everyone apart from me voted him.
8:16:35 PM Iris: 2. Callahan wasn't willing to role claim if he in fact had a role. I didn't see it as my place to do it for him.
8:17:21 PM Jason: So did he ever say he had a role or just hint? or does it even qualify as hints?
8:17:34 PM MeiYun: they were good hints
8:17:34 PM MeiYun: lemme find the thread
8:17:35 PM Iris: No, he never said he had a role outright. He hinted.
8:17:48 PM Jenya: Not really.
8:17:54 PM Jenya: Well, in my opinion at least.
8:17:58 PM Oswald: they must not have been able to help him or anyone else
8:18:04 PM Jason: lol conflicting reports -_-
8:18:17 PM MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive8357857&action=display&thread=737
8:18:22 PM Oswald: i mean his roles
8:18:37 PM MeiYun: read it, i think they were good hints
8:19:58 PM Boris: either he was hinting, or he was talking from experience
8:20:03 PM Jenya: Iris, you were in on Robert and Yvette's fake cases Plan?
8:20:11 PM Iris: Yes. And I have a bit to say about that.
8:20:42 PM Jenya: Go for it. I'm interested to hear why you thought that plan would be good for the Citizens.
8:20:43 PM Jason: So those cases were fake all along?? I knew they didnt seem right
8:20:50 PM Jason: I need to read the forums ugh
8:20:52 PM Jenya: Totally fake.
8:21:01 PM Levi: Guys, I'm stilll here
8:21:03 PM Jason: Well
8:21:07 PM Levi: I just don't have much to say about this matter
8:21:08 PM Mirela: do tell
8:21:16 PM Jason: WHO says they were fake, Yvette? that could be convenient to say after Robert's gone
8:21:23 PM Jenya: And Iris and Faith and Ariel
8:21:30 PM Jason: ok nevermind, case shot down lol
8:21:34 PM Oswald: LOL
8:21:46 PM Jenya: It was a top secret plan.
8:21:46 PM Boris: has rey posted the chat log where it was first hatched?
8:21:50 PM Levi: Don't worry
8:21:52 PM Iris: Yes, they were fake all along, and in retrospect it was a terrible idea. Yvette is pretty convincing...she convinced me that it would save her and Robert from the Spies. At the time...
8:21:55 PM Jenya: With only one or two spies in the loop.
8:21:56 PM Levi: Jason, I thought the same thing
8:22:00 PM Levi: When I first heard this
8:22:08 PM Oswald: that's pretty sneaky and genius at the same time
8:22:11 PM Iris: that seemed like a good idea because they were clearly our team leaders.
8:22:44 PM Jenya: Did you have citizen reads on both of them at the time?
8:22:47 PM Iris: I trust Ariel fully. She's the only person I'd put at 100% citizen, and she was in on it too...I came in halfway through the chat and they didn't explain the whole thing to me...
8:22:50 PM Jason: Yeah, I guess the Spies saw through it though, since Robert is gone
8:22:57 PM Iris: but Ariel was in on it so that was good enough for me.
8:23:08 PM Jenya: Why did you have Ariel at 100% citizen?
8:23:19 PM Iris: Jenya, yes. Any suspicion I put on the board about Robert (I was "assigned" to vote for Robert at that time)...
8:23:25 PM Jenya: This is last Wednesday morning we're talking about, right?
8:23:26 PM Oswald: unless one of hte people in on the plan was a Spy
8:23:27 PM Iris: was part of the plan.
8:23:51 PM Iris: I didn't have her at 100% cit at the time...had her at 75, which was the highest out of anyone. NOW I have her at 100% cit.
8:24:20 PM Oswald: Is it possible that someone that was part of that plan was a Spy which led to Robert's removal
8:24:24 PM Iris: I agree though that it's likely that someone in on the plan was a Spy. And I know it isn't me. I'm up in the air about Yvette right now, but if anyone was a Spy...
8:24:28 PM Iris: I think it was Faith.
8:24:34 PM Jenya: Why Faith?
8:24:41 PM Oswald: Faith?
8:24:44 PM Jenya: I did notice that she wasn't too nervous at Imprisonment.
8:24:45 PM MeiYun: um why are people clearing Ariel so qucikly?
8:24:47 PM Iris: Yes.
8:24:48 PM MeiYun: Explain please
8:25:06 PM Iris: Um, what should I answer first? Why I believe in Ariel fully, or why I now think Faith is a Spy?
8:25:12 PM Jenya: Faith.
8:25:15 PM MeiYun: faith
8:25:17 PM Levi: Ariel is no where near clear
8:25:19 PM Jenya: We're not judging Ariel tonight.
8:25:30 PM Iris: Okay, Faith.
8:25:49 PM Iris: Yesterday or the day before I had a chat with her and explained the Callahan thing to her.
8:26:08 PM Oswald: i agree lets not focus on Ariel...FOR NOW
8:26:09 PM Iris: This was before I got a chance to post it on the board.
8:26:16 PM Levi: That is true
8:26:22 PM Levi: We should focus on our teammates
8:26:37 PM Mirela: ariel isn't even on our team
8:26:58 PM Iris: So in the middle of discussing Callahan, I told her that I wanted to explain the Robert/Yvette plan to Khaled. Because Khaled apparently suspected me for...
8:27:12 PM Iris: "bandwagoning" on Robert, which in fact was only part of the Robert/Yvette plan.
8:27:37 PM Iris: She said that she was okay with me telling people about it, but that I should check with Ariel, Robert and Yvette first. I said I would.
8:28:36 PM Levi: I really don't see the merit of the whole "fakecase plan" to be honest
8:28:49 PM Oswald: yeah its a little odd
8:28:54 PM Iris: I didn't get online again before Robert was exiled so I never got to talk to him. In the meantime, the whole "Robert/Yvette" story is posted without my permission, I'm mentioned as the leading Spy candidate of the plan, and...
8:28:56 PM Mirela: the point was what?
8:29:03 PM Oswald: and who all was in on this plan I thought it was only Iris, Yvette and Robert, I had no idea Faith was
8:29:10 PM Jenya: and Ariel
8:29:13 PM Boris: well, i am thinking, so people have two cases, what if no other good case came up?
8:29:25 PM Boris: i have problems with the ideas behind it
8:29:29 PM Mirela: why were you included in the robert/yvette plan?
8:30:02 PM Iris: Faith is telling people I should have worked harder to save Callahan. I feel it's a subtle smudge.
8:30:22 PM Oswald: i think you should have too
8:30:23 PM Iris: Mirela (welcome new Mirela, btw, and thanks for joining us, and I also have you at 90% citizen thanks to Callahan)...is that question for me?
8:30:34 PM Iris: Yes, I should have, I see that now, that's not the point.
8:30:44 PM Levi: But think about it this way:
8:30:53 PM Levi: Would Ariel have saved the person she voted for?
8:30:59 PM Iris: The point is the timing of her trying to get me not to tell my side of the story, and then them posting it where I look like the bad guy.
8:31:02 PM Mirela: yes
8:31:16 PM Mirela: and thank you for the greeting :]
8:31:27 PM Jason: Thats a valid point by Levi, but I think a role claim would make her want to give him more time
8:31:49 PM Iris: YW. :-) I thought I was included in the plan because Yvette and Robert trusted me. The point of the plan was to make Yvette and Robert look like they were easy lynch candidates, so Spies wouldn't bother to Imprison them.
8:31:49 PM Jason: But he wasn't willing to claim so I doubt he had one
8:31:51 PM MeiYun: but i think "i forgot that he had a role and Ariel can save him" isnt exactly something pro-town.
8:31:58 PM Levi: I think he would have claimed right there if he had one
8:32:03 PM Levi: I doubt that he had a role, to be honest
8:32:22 PM Iris: Unfortunately, it didn't work. And now Yvette is saying that she only included me because I was online at that time and they needed one more person.
8:32:36 PM Mirela: why did you consent to this?
8:32:38 PM Iris: I never said "I forgot that he had a role and Ariel can save him."
8:32:38 PM Oswald: whihc is shady too
8:32:42 PM Mirela: did you think it was a good idea?
8:33:01 PM Jason: So was Yvette basically using people?
8:33:14 PM Jason: Or were people using her...?
8:33:15 PM MeiYun: let me check iris
8:33:34 PM Boris: yvette does not seem like someone who gets used
8:33:34 PM Iris: I said it NEVER OCCURED to me to role claim for him, and I gave my reasons. And I've said it twice now in this chat. Mei Yun, putting words in people's mouth is very much a Spy trick.
8:33:52 PM Jason: Good point, Boris
8:33:56 PM Iris: Mirela, I did think it was a good idea at the time. I trusted Robert and Yvette, even more so, Ariel.
8:34:03 PM MeiYun: "I'm sorry I didn't. It didn't seem right at the time to role claim for him if he wasn't willing to do it himself, but in retrospect I wish I'd thought of it. "
8:34:10 PM Iris: It turned out poorly in the execution.
8:34:34 PM Oswald: also if it was Yvette and Robert's plan its safe to assume someone else in the plan was the Spy that tipped others off, that leaves who...Iris and Faith?
8:35:04 PM Iris: Yes...where does that say I forgot? I've said four or five times now that I didn't think I should claim for Callahan if he wasn't willing to claim. Plus he thought we would get good info out of who voted him.
8:35:04 PM Mirela: iris, you have to understand that being involved in that incident has put you on the radar :[
8:35:06 PM Mirela: it was risky
8:35:29 PM Iris: Yes, I see that now. I'm royally pissed actually because it looks like I've been set up to be the fall guy.
8:35:41 PM Levi: Sorry if I'm quiet
8:35:48 PM MeiYun: no that was a mistake on my part but forgetting == " wish I'd thought of it."
8:35:48 PM Levi: I'm distracted by other things at the moment
8:35:52 PM Jenya: How are Faith's suspicions now, Iris?
8:35:56 PM MeiYun: thats why i had the word in my brain
8:36:14 PM Jenya: Have you talked to her since Callahan was exiled?
8:36:18 PM Iris: The last person she told me she suspected was Robert. That was Saturday night, I guess.
8:36:49 PM Iris: Yes, Saturday night. I told her my side of the Callahan story, she told me she didn't read what he was saying as having a role, and said she suspected Robert now.
8:36:50 PM Oswald: in all fairness Faith did tell me she suspected Robert too
8:37:03 PM Iris: Okay, MeiYun, understood.
8:37:23 PM Jason: And there shj
8:37:25 PM Jason: she is!
8:37:33 PM Jenya: So Iris, who are your top picks for Exile?
8:37:42 PM Mirela: lol
8:37:43 PM MeiYun: whos she?
8:37:46 PM Mirela: that came out of nowhere
8:37:53 PM Iris: And the other thing she told me was I shouldn't post about the Robert/Yvette plan until I cleared it with Ariel, Robert, and Yvette.
8:38:02 PM Jason: Faith, she just logged on..
8:38:08 PM MeiYun: invited
8:38:14 PM Jason: Hi Faith
8:38:17 PM MeiYun: so faith is going home?
8:38:22 PM Faith: Hi team!!
8:38:26 PM Faith: wait what? :-(
8:38:33 PM Jason: It looks like a done deal to me
8:38:36 PM Boris: faith, we all hate you and are voting for you
8:38:43 PM Faith:
8:38:43 PM Boris: not because you are spyish, we just don't like you
8:38:44 PM MeiYun: sorry :-(
8:38:48 PM Faith: But...
8:38:49 PM Faith: I like me.
8:38:51 PM MeiYun: we dont like green
8:38:51 PM Jason: :-(
8:38:55 PM Boris: it's nothing per... no, it is personal
8:38:56 PM MeiYun: green is for spies
8:39:02 PM Jenya: Hi Faith, what's this about a plan and fake suspects and stuff?
8:39:02 PM Iris: Faith, babe, they're teasing you...and I like you but I AM voting for you now because I think I've been set up.
8:39:13 PM MeiYun: what Iris said
8:39:54 PM Faith: wait so you're actually voting for me Iris?
8:40:04 PM Faith: just so I can seperate the fun stuff from the not
8:40:14 PM Iris: Yes, I am. I feel you set me up.
8:40:32 PM Faith: Do you mind explaining? Because I never did :\
8:41:00 PM Iris: Yes. Does anyone mind if I just cut/paste from the chat before Faith got here? Because it'll be easier than restating it all.
8:41:00 PM Oswald: WOW
8:41:24 PM Faith: please do, or send it to me over pm or something
8:41:35 PM Levi: That's a very interesting development
8:41:35 PM Jenya: Do you girls still trust Yvette?
8:41:49 PM Jenya: You obviously had to trust her a lot to deceive the town like you did.
8:42:11 PM Faith: I just posted on the topic in the burg.
8:42:16 PM Faith: I don't know if you all read it or not
8:42:18 PM Iris: Okay, Faith, it's coming up. Oswald, what's the"WOW" for.
8:42:27 PM Oswald: your ballsiness Iris
8:42:47 PM Iris: Um, thanks, I think, but what does that refer to?
8:43:16 PM Boris: i must be going away at the moment, i will be home later, i will be leaving this chat open
8:43:23 PM Oswald: to you telling Faith you are voting her
8:43:31 PM Boris: hopefully i will see you all tonight
8:43:53 PM Faith: But do I trust Yvette right now? No. She could very well be a spy. I agreed to go with the plan because I felt Robert/Yvette were the most outspoken and would be targetted by spies first
8:44:03 PM Jenya: How about you, Iris?
8:44:15 PM Faith: and I'm glad Iris is being honest Oswald. I rather know people are voting for me than not.
8:44:25 PM Iris: Well, if I'm wrong I want her to have a chance to defend herself.
8:45:12 PM Iris: Jenya, I haven't had a chance to speak to Yvette again since the plan. I trust her less though. I trust Ariel fully, and I believe I've been set up, so it's got to be Faith or Yvette.
8:45:18 PM Levi: I agree with you there Faith
8:45:25 PM Mirela: why is ariel is wonderful?
8:45:31 PM Mirela: is there a reason why she's liked?
8:45:33 PM Mirela: so much
8:45:40 PM Iris: Faith, do you actually know who ORIGINATED this plan? Was it Robert's idea or Yvette?
8:45:56 PM Faith: I honestly have no clue
8:45:58 PM Jenya: Mirela, Ariel gets a half a brownie point for helping exile Almathea.
8:46:05 PM Faith: when I was invited Robert/Ariel/Yvette were in the room
8:46:17 PM Levi: I like brownies
8:46:18 PM Mirela: ah i see
8:46:20 PM Faith: It sounded to me Yvette
8:46:25 PM Faith: as she had the most ideas with it
8:46:31 PM Jenya: But she loses a half a brownie point for exiling Callahan.
8:46:33 PM Faith: but I don't know for sure
8:46:39 PM MeiYun: so Faith was in there before Iris was let into the plan?
8:46:43 PM Iris: Because speaking of ballsy, that would be ballsy...Yvette gets Robert to agree to this plan so he doesn't try too hard, and then gets him Imprisoned at night.
8:46:47 PM Jenya: So Ariel is one out of two, plus she was part of this terrible plan that makes no sense.
8:46:59 PM Mirela: obviously the people surrounding the incident are important
8:47:05 PM Mirela: for all we know yvette could be the spy
8:47:26 PM Jenya: What do you girls think of Paris?
8:47:38 PM Levi: I really wish Paris were online right now
8:47:39 PM Jenya: Iris and Faith, any opinion on him?
8:47:58 PM Jason: I think everyone wants Paris to get online
8:48:09 PM Oswald: or get out, ha
8:48:16 PM Iris: Jenya, I haven't ever spoken to Paris. I think he could be Spy, but my belief is based on Rey's case. I have Rey at 75% citizen. I won't vote him until I talk to him though.
8:48:35 PM Faith: I havn't talked to him one on one yet but I am following his case. I thought it was intersting that you pointed out he wanted roxy saved but later changed to alma
8:48:56 PM MeiYun: FAITH/IRIS: spies6MeiYun (5:46:23 PM): so Faith was in there before Iris was let into the plan?
8:49:16 PM Iris: Yes, MeiYun, I was the last to get there.
8:49:24 PM Faith: Yeah.
8:49:31 PM Jenya: Faith, do you suspect Paris was teammates with Roxy and/or Almathea?
8:49:58 PM Iris: Jenya, what do you think the odds are that BOTH Roxy and Alma were Spies? I think that's next to impossible.
8:50:03 PM Jenya: Why?
8:50:11 PM Faith: I'm not really sure Roxy is a spy at the moment.
8:50:20 PM Jenya: Roxy got the most votes.
8:50:22 PM Faith: A lot of the stuff she has said sounds like a new player to me.
8:50:25 PM Jenya: She could easily be a spy.
8:50:33 PM Faith: Paris could be teamates with Alam though.
8:50:39 PM Levi: We just voted Roxy, because she said voting with the crowd isn't scummy
8:50:44 PM Iris: Because in Mafia on a Day one lynch, the lynchee is virtually always town. I've never played Spies before, but I understand Alma was the first Spy to ever be Exiled on Day One.
8:50:52 PM Iris: That just seems impossible to me that they're both Spies.
8:51:03 PM Iris: I shouldn't say impossible. Unlikely.
8:51:16 PM Faith: If Paris is a spy with Alma though, my question would be why didn't he vote jocelyn as well?
8:51:21 PM Jenya: Have you talked to the people who voted for Roxy?
8:51:34 PM MeiYun: i think i have been clear on the roxy case
8:51:37 PM Jenya: To see if they were right?
8:52:23 PM Iris: Faith, he might not have voted Jocelyn because it was apparent that she would eventually be mod-killed anyway.
8:52:38 PM MeiYun: also, i dont want to argue based on the "probability" somebody is a spy. why dont you see if the merits on her case actually has merit?
8:53:00 PM Jenya: ROXY (4): Gretchen, Mei Yun, Levi, Boris
8:53:11 PM Levi: It is true, I voted her
8:53:11 PM MeiYun: thats big
8:53:19 PM Levi: She said that voting with the crowd wasn't scummy
8:53:21 PM Levi: that was scummy
8:53:50 PM Iris: Who said that? Roxy?
8:54:05 PM MeiYun: OMG we have a leaderboard
8:54:06 PM Levi: yes
8:54:09 PM MeiYun: omg omg
8:54:14 PM MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi
8:54:37 PM Iris: I disagree with you there, Mei Yun, though I certainly will back up probability with arguments. Probability has served me very well in my Mafia career.
8:54:37 PM Mirela: yay
8:55:04 PM MeiYun: but iris, probability alone should not be the one that makes or breaks the case
8:55:26 PM MeiYun: you/spmebody are telling us that roxy is unlikely to be a spy based on probabilities
8:55:39 PM MeiYun: im not gonna fold just based on that
8:55:43 PM Levi: brb
8:55:52 PM Oswald: i'll brb too have to make some food
8:55:59 PM Iris: I'm not telling you to fold. If you suspect her strongly you most certainly should follow up on that. I'm just stating my opinion.
8:56:44 PM Jenya: Iris, if Yvette was in this group, would you exile her or Faith?
8:57:03 PM Faith: and actually can I still know why I'm getting your vote?
8:57:14 PM Jenya: And Faith, who are you thinking of voting for right now?
8:57:17 PM MeiYun: and im stating mine, iris
8:57:32 PM Iris: Yes, Faith, sorry, I got distracted with the talk of Roxy.
8:57:32 PM Faith: If I had to vote right now I'd vote for Levi.
8:57:37 PM Faith: no problem :-)
8:57:37 PM Mirela: thats random
8:57:38 PM Jenya: We have about 24 hours to decide, right?
8:57:49 PM MeiYun: 26
8:57:50 PM Iris: Jenya, it would depend on their answers to my questions about me getting thrown under the bus.
8:58:05 PM Iris: which faith can't answer until I give her my opinion, so let me do that now.
8:58:15 PM Faith: okay was just going to say that lol
8:58:18 PM Iris: :-)
9:00:23 PM Levi: alright guys, I'm back
9:00:30 PM Levi: Did I miss anything important?
9:00:37 PM Jason: Welcome back Leave Eye... tons, this time for real
9:00:56 PM Mirela: why would you exile levi faith?
9:01:43 PM Faith: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=704 The case there Mirela.
9:02:07 PM Levi: Whoa, Faith is exiling me?
9:02:13 PM Jason: :-(
9:02:17 PM Mirela: do you think kristen is credible?
9:02:20 PM Faith: If I had to vote right now, yes it would be on you.
9:02:42 PM Mirela: don't you think paris has a way stronger case though?
9:02:58 PM Levi: I don't know
9:03:09 PM Levi: I admit, both cases are strong in their own ways
9:03:16 PM Faith: I haven't talked to Kristen one on one yet so I can't say she is credible for sure but when I asked Levi questions on it he forgot thing he said himself
9:03:21 PM Mirela: your saying your own case is strong?
9:03:27 PM Levi: Yes, I am
9:03:32 PM Levi: I admit that I am under suspicion
9:03:43 PM Levi: And that Kirsten has a way with words to make it seem like I'm a Spy
9:03:57 PM Levi: If I was someone who had just walked into the gaem, I would vote for me
9:05:01 PM Jason: Well Leave Eye its a good thing you're not the new Mirela? lol..
9:05:09 PM Levi: True, it is
9:05:48 PM Mirela: why wouldn't you vote for iris, faith?
9:06:07 PM Levi: And about me forgetting a post, like Faith said, it is true
9:06:24 PM Levi: I forgot a post that I typed up in five minutes as I was rusing to leave the house for a family gathering
9:07:10 PM Levi: I fail to see how that is suspicious
9:07:55 PM Jenya: What do you girls think of Ed and Khaled?
9:08:01 PM Levi: Wow, I'm good at these awkward silence thins, ain't I?
9:08:13 PM Jason: You're the master, man
9:10:07 PM Jason: And now I am...
9:10:23 PM Levi: LOL
9:10:36 PM Faith: Sorry I was replying to Iris and I'll type when I told her in here
9:11:06 PM Faith: spies6iris (9:05:29 PM):
Sure, but it's the main reason I suspect you. Basically you told me to check with them first, and in the meantime, they posted the plan and I'm looking like the fall guy.
9:11:14 PM Faith:
spies6Faith (9:07:16 PM): I honestly thought then you were a citizen and I still think you are one now. If Khaled was asking you questions about the whole ordeal then I didn't want you to be suspected for it. I was fine with you telling him for the reason I didn't want people to suspect you for wrong reasons
spies6Faith (9:07:41 PM): I said check with the others because I had no clue what their thoughs on the plan was after exile. I hadn't talked to them about it
9:11:33 PM Khaled: Hey guys
9:11:48 PM MeiYun: so it khaled tomorrow?
9:11:50 PM MeiYun: *its
9:11:57 PM Khaled: *Panic*
9:12:07 PM Levi: Oh, hey Khaled!
9:12:12 PM MeiYun: uh oh!
9:12:17 PM Mirela: hello
9:12:18 PM Levi: ROFL
9:12:20 PM Khaled: I'm not that much of a party killer, am I?
9:12:28 PM Khaled: Hey Mirela, good to see you!
9:12:47 PM Jenya: Hi Khaled.
9:12:48 PM Mirela: its good to see you too :]
9:13:06 PM MeiYun: Levi, what do you think of the situation between iris/faith?
9:13:42 PM Levi: With the whole fake case thing?
9:14:02 PM Levi: I thought Iris coming out and saying
9:14:07 PM Levi: That she would vote for Faith
9:14:10 PM Levi: Was very . . . sudeen
9:14:12 PM Levi: *sudden
9:14:22 PM Levi: As to Spy involvement, not sure
9:15:25 PM Levi: Why is there another awkward silence?
9:15:51 PM MeiYun: because i got ice cream?
9:16:21 PM MeiYun: hello?
9:16:29 PM Levi: lol
9:16:34 PM MeiYun: omg :-(
9:16:38 PM Khaled: I'm catching up in the Burg
9:17:05 PM Faith: sorry I'm just talking to Iris. Will post it when we are done :-)
9:17:15 PM Faith: if she wants to move it to here, I'm fine with it
9:17:29 PM Khaled: What
9:17:31 PM Khaled: no I haven't
9:17:32 PM Jenya: Khaled, why did you change your vote at the last minute?
9:17:45 PM Jenya: You knew Callahan was being exiled.
9:17:58 PM MeiYun: LOL
9:18:04 PM Jenya: Tough question I know
9:18:12 PM Levi: lol
9:18:12 PM Jenya: Regroup and give it a shot
9:18:15 PM Faith: hang on did I miss something
9:18:19 PM Faith:
spies6khaled (9:14:55 PM): What
spies6khaled (9:14:57 PM): no I haven't
9:18:23 PM Faith: what was he talking about there?
9:18:40 PM Jenya: lol wrong window
9:18:45 PM Jenya: busted
9:20:01 PM Khaled: I managed to get your last little question, Jenya
9:20:25 PM Jenya: Khaled, who are you having a private chat with right now?
9:20:29 PM Jenya: If you don't mind me asking.
9:20:33 PM Khaled: And while my vote did end up being for Callahan
9:20:38 PM Khaled: Nobody but you (right now)
9:20:45 PM Khaled: For that brief limbo interval
9:20:51 PM Jason: lol
9:20:58 PM Jenya:
spies6khaled (6:17:20 PM): What
spies6khaled (6:17:22 PM): no I haven't
9:21:05 PM Khaled: [20:17] *** spies6Khaled has left the chat.
9:21:12 PM Jenya: What's that, mistell to the Dominos pizza guy?
9:21:17 PM Khaled: mistell to AIM
9:21:31 PM Jenya: Who were you chatting with?
9:21:36 PM Jenya: No I haven't what?
9:21:39 PM Khaled: Nobody. I swear.
9:21:42 PM Jenya: Ordered a pepperoni with cheese?
9:21:44 PM Khaled: [20:16] spies6Faith: if she wants to move it to here, I'm fine with it
[20:17] *** spies6Khaled has left the chat.
[20:17] spies6khaled: What
[20:17] spies6khaled: no I haven't
9:22:06 PM Khaled: It was self-response to AIM saying I left.
9:22:11 PM Jenya: Was that meant for us somehow?
9:22:17 PM Levi: The plot thickens
9:22:20 PM Khaled: Somehow
9:22:25 PM Jenya: oh
9:22:29 PM Jenya: no i havent left the chat?
9:22:31 PM Jenya: got it
9:22:32 PM Khaled: It was me talking out loud through my fingers
9:22:47 PM Khaled: In any case
9:22:51 PM Amelia: hi everyone
9:22:56 PM Khaled: I wanted to change to Iris
9:22:56 PM Jenya: Hi amelia.
9:23:05 PM Jenya: Because you trusted Callahan?
9:23:09 PM Khaled: because right before the deadline, Callahan sent me several AIM logs
9:23:10 PM MeiYun: yay theres a lot of people!
9:23:13 PM Jenya: Or you wanted Iris exiled?
9:23:16 PM Mirela: oh my amelia is here?
9:23:32 PM Khaled: Doing that is a big anti-spy move.
9:23:32 PM Amelia: I know, call off the dogs ;-)
9:23:46 PM Levi: Lol
9:23:52 PM Jenya: So why didn't you ask Ariel to save him?
9:23:55 PM Khaled: Especially if he knew he would be lynched.
9:24:06 PM Amelia: yeah I don't get that
9:24:17 PM Khaled: Ariel wasn't really a fan of me then either; I had no faith in my or anyone else's ability to convince her.
9:24:41 PM MeiYun: amelia quickly why did you vote for kirsten?
9:24:57 PM Amelia: b/c when Levi originally accused her, I thought he was basically jumping at shadows
9:25:13 PM Amelia: then her defense of herself seemed like she was trying way too hard to explain something so trivial
9:25:18 PM Khaled: But I then changed to Iris because she was the next-likiliest spy candidate, according to my analysis
9:25:23 PM Khaled: Speaking of which
9:25:29 PM Khaled: She said she has to talk to me still
9:26:59 PM MeiYun: are you still suspicious of kirsten? what do you think of her case on Levi?
9:27:05 PM MeiYun: ^fir amelia
9:27:06 PM MeiYun: *for
9:27:12 PM MeiYun: oh god
9:27:19 PM Khaled: It might be another thing like mine
9:27:26 PM MeiYun: spies6MeiYun (6:26:42 PM): are you still suspicious of kirsten? what do you think of her case on Levi?
spies6MeiYun (6:26:48 PM): ^fir amelia
spies6MeiYun (6:26:49 PM): *for
9:28:06 PM Levi: So, we are talking about me now, arne't we
9:28:18 PM Amelia: I think anything she says is suspect
9:28:19 PM MeiYun: its always about you Levi
9:28:29 PM Amelia: she's too loud and too fluffy to actually be a Citizen
9:28:40 PM Amelia: she's trying to look good by formulating a case against the guy who called her out
9:28:55 PM Amelia: fortunately, she's not my effing problem at the moment
9:29:02 PM Amelia: but that's neither here nor there ;-)
9:29:12 PM Levi: LOL
9:29:28 PM MeiYun: have you talked to kirsten?
9:29:35 PM Amelia: we never seem to be online at the same time
9:29:44 PM Amelia: and she's never directly addressed me in the thread
9:29:56 PM Faith: I'd actually like to talk to her myself. I can't say I've seen her online lately
9:30:09 PM Levi: I would like to talk to Paris
9:30:10 PM Amelia: her ignoring my accusations is frustrating, but I do suspect her for making a big deal about nothing, so I can't be hypocritical
9:30:13 PM Levi: But that's beside the point
9:30:30 PM Faith: No I'd like to talk to Paris as well Levi :-)
9:30:54 PM MeiYun: paris should be online tonight
9:34:53 PM MeiYun: kirstgen has not been around since that case i think
9:36:03 PM Levi: I haven't seen her
9:36:13 PM Levi: but then again, I haven't been looking for her since the team swap thing
9:37:45 PM Khaled: Man, quiet party.
9:37:59 PM Faith: I know I came in late, but who is everyone else currently suspecting?
9:38:21 PM Iris: Jenya, I've talked to Faith and after hearing what she has to say, I think it's more likely that Yvette is setting me up than Faith.
9:38:45 PM Iris: So to answer your question before, I still have to hear what Yvette has to say, but right now I would vote Yvette over Faith.
9:39:10 PM Mirela: yvettes not on our team though
9:39:19 PM Mirela: who would you vote for thats apart of our team
9:39:49 PM Iris: I know, I'm answering a question Jenya directed to me earlier though.
9:40:30 PM Iris: If I had to vote THIS SECOND I'd vote Paris, but I haven't talked to him yet and I want to hear his defense.
9:40:56 PM MeiYun: heres the deal anyone, most of the defense for paris have been stated in the thread
9:41:09 PM MeiYun: unless you have new questions or concerns, you waiting for paris is slightly moot
9:41:19 PM MeiYun: make sure you have read that thread thoroughly
9:41:33 PM Jenya: Well, it'd be good to hear Paris's current suspicions once he catches up.
9:41:41 PM Levi: Yes it would
9:41:50 PM Levi: Sorry that I'm quiet guys, working on stuff for another game
9:42:14 PM Mirela: well this is fun
9:43:00 PM Khaled: If I had ten seconds to make a vote, it would be for Levi, but given that I haven't compiled across-game data on him yet
9:43:02 PM Khaled: that's hardly damning
9:43:04 PM Levi: Thrills a minute
9:44:07 PM MeiYun: promises promises
9:44:50 PM Khaled: Mei Yun, you should check the timestamp on the post I made for Episode 1
9:45:03 PM Khaled: I think I got it up a full one hour before deadline?
9:45:21 PM Faith: Why would you vote Levi at the moment Khaled? Even if you haven't done your across-game data thingy.
9:46:01 PM Khaled: Cursory look at the arguments against him
9:46:36 PM Khaled: The presented data against him is valid, and the intermediate conclusions are also
9:46:42 PM Khaled: The final conclusion may or may not be so
9:47:03 PM MeiYun: no i was talking about your analysis of levi/levi reactions
9:47:11 PM Iris: Faith, important question for you!
9:47:19 PM Faith: go for it!
9:47:21 PM Khaled: Yeah, that's coming.
9:47:27 PM Iris: Do you remember why it was so important that we were NOT to tell Khaled or Ed about the plan?
9:47:35 PM Levi: I have a question for Khaled
9:47:48 PM Faith: Because we were supposed to see if Ed/Khaled jumped agasint Yvette or Robert
9:47:59 PM Levi: Why are you voting me based on that thread without making an effort to question me about the matter yourself?
9:48:01 PM Faith: and started agreeing with the cases to get them exiled
9:48:23 PM Khaled: Levi, I'm not voting you (yet)
9:48:43 PM Khaled: I said that if I had ten seconds to make a decision, I would.
9:48:51 PM Khaled: I've got a little over 24 hours.
9:48:58 PM Khaled: And yes, I will question you
9:49:06 PM Levi: I'm just checking
9:49:06 PM Khaled: Right now, I'm off-group chatting with Iris
9:49:13 PM Khaled: Take a number
9:49:15 PM Levi: Ok, there's what I was looking for
9:49:22 PM Levi: I was going to say, you've had all this time
9:49:24 PM Levi: but you were busy
9:49:41 PM Khaled: Not really. I've been busy, but I leave my computer online
9:49:59 PM Levi: Sorry guys, I have to go
9:50:17 PM MeiYun: khaled if you have questuions for levi i expect you to post them in the board
9:50:34 PM Khaled: I'll post a transcript, MeiYun, ideally
9:53:15 PM Jenya: Faith and Iris, can you please post the chat you had when you set up the Robert/Yvette plan?
9:53:41 PM Jenya: Whatever group chat that was?
9:54:29 PM Iris: Jenya, I can't remember the name of the chat room, and I came in late. I'm not the best person to do it.
9:54:43 PM Faith: I'll check if I have it. My computer didn't save all my logs round one
9:54:58 PM Jenya: It would be really interesting to see those conversations.
9:55:00 PM Iris: I'd really LOVE to see it though because now I really want to know if Yvette started this idea.
9:56:26 PM Khaled: Yvette said she would post it
9:56:29 PM Faith: No my computer didn't save it. Yvette said she was going to post it after Rey posted something though
9:56:36 PM Khaled: Why she needs to wait is beyond me
9:56:46 PM Faith: Yeah I don't know why she has to wait either
9:57:07 PM Iris: Damn, I wish ROBERT would have posted it before he died because I don't know that I trust Yvette to not conveniently edit it.
9:57:18 PM Mirela: haha
9:57:28 PM Faith: I would assume Ariel has it as well
9:57:44 PM Jenya: Ariel is away for a while.
10:01:20 PM Oswald: i'm back
10:01:25 PM Khaled: Welcome back
10:02:17 PM MeiYun: im out for the meantime
10:02:24 PM Oswald: what did I miss?
10:02:26 PM MeiYun: i will be around tomorrow
10:03:28 PM Amelia: Oz, do you or do you not suspect Levi?
10:03:45 PM Amelia: (and hi, sorry to waylay without a proper hello ;-))
10:03:55 PM Oswald: I am about 95% Levi = Citizen, and 5% Levi = Spy
10:04:01 PM Oswald: so I have a lingering doubt you could say
10:04:14 PM Amelia: fair enough
10:04:16 PM MeiYun: LOL thats even more than what i think
10:04:42 PM MeiYun: i am nowhere near 95% in thinking levi is a citizen
10:04:46 PM Oswald: oh and hello Amelia
10:05:07 PM Oswald: nice to finally meet you
10:05:12 PM MeiYun: i will see you tomorrow
10:06:09 PM Mirela: bye mei
10:06:30 PM Iris: Boy, Mei Yun is aggressive, isn't she?
10:06:38 PM Amelia: yeah, isn't it glorious? :-)
10:06:47 PM Amelia: she's so aggressive
10:07:03 PM Mirela: haha
10:07:03 PM Amelia: it's nice to see someone who's more in your face than me
10:07:11 PM Khaled: She's pretty awesome
10:07:12 PM Mirela: so direct
10:07:19 PM Oswald: you're "in your face"?
10:07:34 PM Amelia: haha
10:07:35 PM Mirela: does anyone here think mei yun is a possible spy?
10:07:48 PM Amelia: well, not aggressively so, but I will ask direct questions
10:07:53 PM Amelia: Mirela, no I don't
10:08:03 PM Mirela: i think she's trustworthy
10:08:04 PM Amelia: in fact, if she flips Spy I'll streak or something
10:08:07 PM Oswald: @ Amelia I guess :
s eyes::
10:08:10 PM Mirela: she helped me so much
10:08:16 PM Oswald: And no I don't think Mei is a Spy
10:08:23 PM Mirela: the spirits tell me she is good people
10:08:25 PM Amelia: oh Oz, you're so sweet to me
10:08:44 PM Oswald:
10:09:32 PM Mirela: amelia, you look like alice glass of crystal castles
10:11:13 PM Amelia: thank you! she's gorgeous and has a great voice
10:11:28 PM Mirela: isn't she? i've been to one of hr concerts
10:11:32 PM Mirela: its amazing
10:11:42 PM Amelia: <-- Jealous
10:12:14 PM Amelia: well, folks
10:12:19 PM Amelia: I still need to unpack
10:12:26 PM Amelia: but Spies was my first priority ;-)
10:12:30 PM Mirela: haha
10:12:35 PM Amelia: I think I've done all the chatting I can squeeze in tonight
10:12:54 PM Amelia: I'll tty all later
10:13:16 PM Khaled: Well
10:13:23 PM Khaled: They just posted the group chats
10:19:57 PM Iris: Khaled, can you do a link please?
10:20:22 PM Faith: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive9598181&action=display&thread=785&page=1 I know I'm not him but I'm reading it now :X
10:20:45 PM Khaled: Yeah
10:20:46 PM Khaled: sorry
10:20:50 PM Khaled: I'm really into it
10:22:26 PM Iris: Thanks, Faith. :-)
10:40:28 PM Oswald: OK I think I am going to head out for the night, I've been on all day
10:41:16 PM Khaled: Sounds good
10:41:19 PM Khaled: take it easy, Oz
10:52:26 PM Khaled: Wow
10:52:30 PM Khaled: I finally made it through that
10:52:41 PM Khaled: I'm going to go watch the rest of the Lakers/Nuggets game
10:52:47 PM Khaled: And return at its conclusion
10:55:42 PM Paris: Hi everyone. Sorry for the late appearance. Had a hectic day today
10:55:50 PM Faith: You missed the rush :-)
10:56:06 PM Mirela: hello paris
10:56:16 PM Paris: Apolgies for that
10:56:24 PM Paris: Since I am a prime suspect for the upcoming exile
10:56:35 PM Paris: is there anything you guys need cleared up
10:56:38 PM Mirela: well
10:56:43 PM Paris: specifically on the case towards me.
10:56:50 PM Mirela: the reason why everyone suspects you
10:56:54 PM Mirela: is for two reasons
10:56:55 PM Paris: The obvious one is the fact that I didn't vote Alma.
10:57:00 PM Mirela: yes
10:57:17 PM Mirela: and you also didn't put her on your list of suspicions. at all
10:57:30 PM Paris: Could that have been easily forgotten by anyone?
10:57:40 PM Paris: or is it mere coincidence that the person I left out was in fact a spy.
10:57:50 PM Paris: I honestly looked over her when I was making the list
10:57:53 PM Mirela: i'm the new mirela, so i don't know much about the ordeal
10:58:05 PM Mirela: but this is the evidence i've gathered so far
10:58:24 PM Paris: oh hi New Mirela as well!
10:58:54 PM Mirela: :]
10:58:56 PM Faith: yeah amazing Mirela joined us today <3
10:59:08 PM Mirela: a spirit took over my body
10:59:16 PM Mirela: but that bitchy spirit has been excercised
10:59:22 PM Paris: btw i may disconnect sometimes, so pelase excuse me
10:59:35 PM Paris: im trying to respond to your statement about leaving alma out as well mirela
11:00:04 PM Paris: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=625&page=2
11:00:28 PM Paris: In this thread, this is where we posted all our suspicions. For me, I was honestly jumping around all over the place with the names and forgot Alma. I separated into several categories -
11:00:48 PM Paris: Suspicious Of, Probably Not, Citizen, No Read
11:01:01 PM Paris: I had meant to put Alma in No Read as I didn't talk to her enough
11:01:10 PM Paris: or understood the case against her
11:01:25 PM Mirela: so you "forgot"
11:01:28 PM Paris: but since I started off with Suspicious Of, followed by Probably Not, then citizen, i just totally glazed over alma
11:02:38 PM Mirela: thats interesting
11:03:03 PM Mirela: cause there has already been a case today
11:03:09 PM Mirela: where someone 'forgot'
11:05:42 PM Mirela: is anyone else going to talk here?
11:05:53 PM Paris: side conversation with Faith as well, I do apologize
11:06:01 PM Paris: I think its easy to forget things in thsi game though
11:06:12 PM Paris: You can't assume that everything that people forget = spy at all
11:06:27 PM Paris: People are human, I'm human, I forget what was said, look over things
11:06:33 PM Faith: Sorry yeah I'm talking to both of you privatley
11:07:52 PM Faith: I'm just going to move the convo in here Paris if that's okay with you. Less confusing to jump from chat to chat.
11:08:04 PM Faith: So what were your opinions on Alma before she was gone?
11:08:08 PM Paris: no that's quite alright Faith
11:08:17 PM Paris: It's actually better to be more public with reasonings and such
11:08:30 PM Faith: I agree :-)
11:08:44 PM Mirela: not that there's much of an audience
11:08:50 PM Paris: I didn't know her. People thought she was suspicious based on the context of her wording. I didn't read her conversation in depth fully. I ony had one talk with her
11:10:42 PM Paris: lol it happens but at least its for records
11:11:09 PM Faith: yeah plus Khaled, jenya, and Boris can look at it later as well
11:11:22 PM Faith: I'm sure it'll get posted now that I think of it but yeah :-)
11:11:47 PM Paris: yeah. Mirela is telling me that nearly the whole group suspects me
11:12:10 PM Faith: Well you do have to admit the situation needs to be looked at.
11:12:16 PM Faith: You were one of two people not voting a spy.
11:12:25 PM Faith: not including the inactive.
11:12:51 PM Paris: and if I was in the shoes of the others, it makes complete sense that I would be suspected for sure
11:13:56 PM Paris: So as of now, there are several suspects on the table
11:14:05 PM Paris: Iris, for her case on Callahan??
11:14:14 PM Paris: Levi, for his wishy washiness behavior?
11:14:20 PM Paris: Paris, for his failure to vote out a spy
11:14:36 PM Faith: People are looking at Iris for not doing anything about Callahan I think?
11:14:50 PM Paris: What exactly was it that she wasn't doing?
11:14:59 PM Mirela: i don't think iris is a spy
11:15:19 PM Faith: At the moment I don't think she is either.
11:15:25 PM Faith: I'll send you the link
11:15:32 PM Paris: What has she done to convince you she isn't a spy.
11:15:43 PM Faith: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive8357857&action=display&thread=737
11:15:46 PM Mirela: i've talked to her individuallly, and she brought up a few good points
11:15:52 PM Paris: From what I read from her,s he is very subdued and very intelligent in the things she says
11:17:06 PM Paris: ok so based on her first post, she didn't vote callahan because she thought he had a role
11:17:18 PM Faith: Right.
11:17:20 PM Mirela: apparently so
11:17:31 PM Faith: I don't think he had one, but that's just me.
11:17:43 PM Paris: Do we happen to know if Iris fished it out of him or Callahan made the first reference
11:17:50 PM Faith: he sent her a pm
11:17:58 PM Paris: So he initiated
11:18:08 PM Paris: Why Iris specifically?
11:18:14 PM Faith: He felt she was a citizen
11:18:23 PM Paris: ok.
11:18:24 PM Faith: he sent pm's to rey and khaled as well
11:18:34 PM Paris: gotcha so they can vouch for Iris.
11:18:44 PM Paris: he spread his message around to three separate people
11:19:01 PM Faith: mhm. I'm not sure if they were all the same pm's though
11:19:30 PM Faith: I don't know if Khaled's had any mention that Callahan could have a role
11:19:51 PM Paris: So why exatly are people like Mei Yun harping on Iris though.
11:19:57 PM Paris: She seems to have good intentions from what I am reading
11:20:08 PM Paris: Trying to help a citizen who seems to want to role claim but cna't
11:20:08 PM Faith: Mei Yun wants to know why Iris didn't do anything to try to save him
11:20:24 PM Mirela: what was she uspposed to do
11:20:32 PM Faith: Like going to Ariel and telling her to save Callahan
11:20:45 PM Paris: what about the risk that Iris would take if Callahan did end up being a spy though
11:20:49 PM Faith: Which goes back to why I don't think Callahan had a role. He could have just done it himself
11:21:05 PM Mirela: but he heavily hinted
11:21:06 PM Mirela: he had one
11:21:13 PM Paris: but any spy could hint one though
11:21:13 PM Faith: then why not role claim?
11:21:21 PM Paris: Why was it on her to role claim for him?
11:21:31 PM Mirela: maybe he didn't know he was going to be voted off
11:21:45 PM Faith: He did. He knew a majority of people were against him.
11:21:45 PM Paris: he said that "it was too late for him"
11:21:53 PM Faith: Iris even told him he should role claim if he had something
11:22:00 PM Faith: and he said what Paris just said
11:22:25 PM Paris: right, Iris advised him to come out with it rather than her herself come out with it
11:24:16 PM Paris: As of now, I don't think thats enough to put Iris as a spy
11:24:55 PM Faith: I don't think so either. As far as I know Rey knew about it as well
11:25:01 PM Faith: and he didn't go to Ariel or anyone either
11:25:21 PM Paris: Right and people aren't harping on him for it.
11:25:37 PM Mirela: Paris, who do you think should be exiled
11:26:13 PM Paris: As of now, I am just voting based on the informatio from my previous team,
11:26:16 PM Paris: and it would be for Jenya
11:26:24 PM Faith: can you explain why?
11:26:33 PM Faith: and actually can you tell us about your old team and what you think of them?
11:26:35 PM Paris: I have not talked fully with anyone on this new team to make any new suspects for myself
11:26:54 PM Paris: Levi, I don't understand his case (exactly the same way I felt about alma, and I havne't really been focusing on it)
11:27:18 PM Paris: The case against Jenya mainly, as I told Mirela in private chat, with the fact of her quick switching from the vote on Jaya to Alma
11:27:55 PM Paris: The day before the exile vote, Jenya, myself, and Ellis were in a chatroom together and we talked extensively on who should be the vote or cmae up with suspicions
11:28:10 PM Paris: we all seem to agree that jaya would be a good vote based on her lurker activity
11:28:27 PM Paris: Jenya , by the end of the chat, said that she wanted us to stay on our votes for Jaya in fear that she herself would get voted out
11:28:31 PM Faith: So are you suspicous of Ellis then as well?
11:28:47 PM Mirela: i don't think ellis is a spy
11:30:05 PM Paris: ok
11:30:07 PM Paris: sorry about that
11:30:11 PM Faith: no worries :-)
11:30:11 PM Mirela: and i was talking to jenya, and she says she trusts
11:30:14 PM Paris: what was the last thing I said
11:30:16 PM Mirela: ellis
11:30:26 PM Faith:
spies6Paris (11:25:39 PM): Jenya , by the end of the chat, said that she wanted us to stay on our votes for Jaya in fear that she herself would get voted out
spies6Faith (11:25:43 PM): So are you suspicous of Ellis then as well?
11:30:50 PM Paris: ok , the fact that Jenya tried to garner votes in order to sav eherself from exiting, added to my suspicion of her. Ellis wasn't trying to collect votes to save himself
11:31:23 PM Paris: I don't really remember Jenya talking about Alma too much either.
11:32:01 PM Paris: I need to go back to my chats on Ellis on whether he suspected Alma but I haven't really focused on him as the fact Jenya seemed to push Jaya moreso than Ellis, and her switch to Alma, makes me think she coped to the pressure of the team
11:32:14 PM Faith: Alma has helped clear Ellis in my mind.
11:32:29 PM Faith: From the looks of it she was against him a lot
11:33:07 PM Paris: yeah, in my sole chat with Ellis, there was no heavy talk about Alma
11:33:08 PM Faith: From chats posted though it looked like Jenya had no problem with a Alma lynch
11:33:22 PM Faith: I think she even started disccusion on it herself
11:33:26 PM Mirela: i don't jenya is a spy
11:33:33 PM Mirela: oswald is a little suspicious
11:33:42 PM Paris: Let me find my chat that ellis, jenya and myself were in
11:33:47 PM Faith: cool :-)
11:33:54 PM Faith: why do you think oswald is suspicious mirela?
11:34:37 PM Mirela: well he's just a little strange
11:34:48 PM Mirela: he was telling me his main suspects
11:34:53 PM Mirela: were Iris, Paris, and Jenya
11:34:59 PM Paris: what day was the exile?
11:35:01 PM Paris: date?
11:35:02 PM Faith: hm. another jenya
11:35:07 PM Faith: Um may 21st?
11:35:10 PM Faith: I think..
11:35:14 PM Mirela: jason doesn't like jenya either
11:35:19 PM Paris: ok , so the chat with me jenya and ellis was the 20th
11:35:20 PM Paris: 1:38:06 PM spies6Jenya: I am not sold on Almathea as spy yet, but she is a better choice than you two in my opinion.
1:38:13 PM spies6Jenya: No, I won't vote Tiberius.
1:38:20 PM spies6Jenya: But I think we need more info from him for later.
1:38:32 PM spies6Jenya: See who he pushes today, and if that's part of a spy plan.
1:38:36 PM Paris: I do wonder what would happen if I just spearhead Tiberius for a vote in front of everyone
11:35:55 PM Paris: she indicates she would vote alma over me and ellis but she isn't sold on her as wlel. I was just under the impression that she was not looking at Alma at all
11:36:17 PM Faith: I thought you said you guys were all suspicious of jaya though
11:36:47 PM Paris: we are, this was part of the chat
11:36:51 PM Faith: ah okay
11:36:58 PM Paris: thats why i was confused when I didnt see Jenya didnt vote for Jaya
11:37:04 PM Paris: and Ellis as well
11:37:24 PM Paris: The vote for Alma totally caught me off guard because the development towards Alma happened right before the exile chat where she freaked
11:37:37 PM Paris: and I wasn't present for it so I was still basing my jaya vote on this chat i had before with Jenya and Ellis
11:37:38 PM Mirela: well that obviously points jenya in the direction of cit
11:37:57 PM Paris: because she adjusted from new information gained?
11:38:00 PM Mirela: hey guys look at the burg
11:38:01 PM Paris: the day after our chat?
11:38:09 PM Mirela: someone posted a roxy case
11:38:31 PM Paris: is roxy on our team?
11:38:46 PM Mirela: no
11:39:19 PM Faith: The roxy case has been there for a while hasn't it?
11:39:22 PM Faith: or is it a new one
11:40:06 PM Mirela: mei posted a new topic
11:40:09 PM Faith: ohh
11:40:11 PM Mirela: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=790
11:40:15 PM Faith: thankies :-)
11:40:32 PM Paris: Mei is intent in getting Roxy out lol
7:37:31 PM Jenya: LOL
7:37:37 PM Jason: Pelmeni?
7:37:43 PM Jason: I think is how its spelled
7:37:48 PM Boris: lol?
7:37:51 PM Jenya: Russian pasta?
7:37:54 PM Jason: Yes
7:37:54 PM Levi: I feel so uncultured
7:37:57 PM Jason: It looked so easy
7:38:15 PM Jason: That got Boris' attention lol
7:38:29 PM Boris: in russia, pasta makes you
7:38:34 PM Boris: hahahaha fuck you
7:38:42 PM Boris: i hate that man
7:38:48 PM Mirela: hello :]
7:39:00 PM Jason: lol
7:39:05 PM Levi: Oh, hi Boris!
7:39:51 PM Levi: hi Oswald!
7:39:54 PM Oswald: hi Levi!
7:39:56 PM Levi: Awwww, a good group chat is going
7:40:02 PM Levi: ANd I'm gonna have to leave for dinner soon
7:40:03 PM Levi: :-(
7:40:08 PM MeiYun: oswald should be in here
7:40:09 PM Levi: But I'll be back shortly afterward
7:40:13 PM MeiYun: the thing is ellis is set for paris
7:40:16 PM Oswald: i'm in here now
7:40:23 PM Oswald: Ellis wants to Exile Paris?
7:40:24 PM MeiYun: i dont know what jenya is thinking
7:40:32 PM Mirela: whose not here right now
7:40:46 PM MeiYun: thats from what i "deduct"
7:40:50 PM Jason: Hi Oswald
7:40:51 PM Jason: And yes
7:40:53 PM Jason: He does lol
7:40:57 PM Oswald: hi Jason, nice to finally meet you
7:41:05 PM Jason: spies6ellis (7:23:25 PM): Hi Jason
spies6ellis (7:23:34 PM): Might as well say I'm voting paris
spies6jason (7:23:36 PM): Hey Ellis, we made it!
spies6jason (7:23:39 PM): I sort of figured that...
7:41:12 PM Jason: Same to you, Oswald
7:41:17 PM Oswald: is Ellis' decision simply predicated on the fact that Paris wanted to save Almathea?
7:41:34 PM Mirela: paris didn't put her on his list of suspicions
7:41:54 PM Jason: Yeah he omitted her completely, but I can see that being an honest mistake
7:42:33 PM Oswald: So yes, the only reason we are really suspecting Paris is because of the Almathea vote (its fine I just want to get my facts straight)
7:42:33 PM Mirela: did paris talk with alma a lot? did they seem to be friends?
7:42:56 PM MeiYun: from what i see almathea "respected" paris
7:43:16 PM Mirela: respected?
7:43:23 PM Jason: Yeah the case is... Alma and Paris seem to have close ties
7:43:33 PM Mirela: hmm
7:43:40 PM Jason: Like... Alma would always ask to speaj to Paris, and she'd say he seems like a cit whenever she talked about him
7:43:44 PM Levi: Paris left Alma off of a suspect list
7:43:54 PM Oswald: OK
7:44:07 PM Levi: Guys, I'll be back in a bit
7:44:19 PM Levi: I'm not signing off, but I'll be afk
7:44:21 PM Jason: You're LEAVING us, Leave Eye?
7:44:25 PM Levi: Just for a little bit
7:44:39 PM Oswald: I wish Paris were here, I'd really love to here his defense at some point, but he's never around.
7:45:01 PM MeiYun: he was here last night and i think he saw my announcement last night
7:45:18 PM Oswald: ok well maybe we give him some time and see if he shows up
7:45:47 PM Boris: i am feeling that sometimes people do not wish to deal with their accusations in games like this
7:45:54 PM Boris: and choose to ignore game when that happens
7:45:58 PM Boris: perhaps that is what is happening
7:46:02 PM Mirela: that might mean something
7:46:09 PM Mirela: inactivity can really hurt you in this game
7:46:15 PM Boris: yes, it can
7:46:21 PM Oswald: is that a sign of Spy or Cit though Boris
7:46:27 PM Oswald: and hello new Mirela.
7:46:46 PM Mirela: hello oswald :]
7:47:06 PM MeiYun: Mirela: yes, Alma sa Paris as a leader as evidence by her rundown description of people on her team
7:47:10 PM MeiYun: *saw
7:47:10 PM Boris: i feel it is more a sign of spy then cit
7:47:19 PM Boris: especially if they are not feeling good after loosing team member
7:47:28 PM Jason: I can see it being either, but yeah... disappearing hoping it blows over could be really Spyish
7:47:48 PM Jason: especially since he was on the team with Jocelyn hearing people say they don't want to vote her out without giving her a chance to defend herself
7:47:54 PM Mirela: maybe he knows he's going to go?
7:47:59 PM Mirela: like he feels it coming
7:48:10 PM Oswald: so that's essentially two strikes for Paris right now (unless he shows)
7:48:28 PM Mirela: well its really early in the game
7:48:31 PM Mirela: someone has to leave
7:48:53 PM Mirela: and the most evidence right now is on paris
7:48:58 PM Oswald: Mirela that's not exactly the right attitude ha, the RIGHT person needs to leave
7:48:59 PM MeiYun: still, mirela we have to make the most informed decision on the strongest case
7:49:09 PM Boris: may i ask, has anyone talked to amelia?
7:49:13 PM Mirela: paris seems like the strongest case so far
7:49:42 PM Oswald: NOBODY talks to Amelia, she just accuses of inactivity and disappears into the ethos, LOL
7:50:15 PM Boris: fantastic
7:50:22 PM MeiYun: do you want to make a fake amelia thread lol?
7:50:23 PM Jason: Does Amelia exist?
7:50:31 PM MeiYun: to get her talking?
7:50:34 PM Oswald: haha I challenge that she does NOT!
7:50:35 PM Oswald: LOL
7:50:46 PM Jason: I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, or Amelia
7:50:51 PM Mirela: haha
7:51:14 PM Boris: we could call her amelia eirheart
7:51:24 PM Jason: lol
7:51:25 PM Boris: she disapeared
7:51:26 PM Oswald: LOL Boris
7:51:29 PM Jason: Amelia Spyhard
7:51:56 PM Jason: Actually Boris' makes way more sense
7:52:07 PM Jason: she must have flown into a storm
7:52:34 PM Boris: yes
7:52:43 PM Mirela: she looks like the type
7:52:46 PM Oswald: but honestly I can't accuse Amelia either way I don't know her at all
7:53:12 PM Boris: yes, that is ultimate conclusion
7:53:56 PM Mirela: what do you guys think of Faith?
7:54:15 PM Boris: also have not talked to her
7:54:16 PM Jason: I haven't talked to her one on one yet
7:54:27 PM Oswald: Faith is...interesting
7:54:29 PM MeiYun: faith is my girl! ::-)
7:54:33 PM Mirela: why's that oswad?
7:54:36 PM Mirela: oswald*
7:55:24 PM Oswald: well she always is *giggling* ha
7:55:28 PM Oswald: which is fine but interesting
7:55:34 PM Oswald: let me see I have to look at my chat with her
7:55:45 PM Jason: Giggling like a little girl or like a Spy making evil plans?
7:55:45 PM MeiYun: OSWALD I GIGGLE
7:55:49 PM Boris: better then the amused c sharp
7:55:54 PM Jason: LOL
7:55:55 PM MeiYun: LOL@ Boris
7:56:12 PM Jason: I don't understand what that means... And I haven't cared enough to ask
7:56:19 PM Mirela: haha
7:56:28 PM Oswald: Mei Yun you don't type *giggles*
7:56:38 PM Oswald: LOL @ Boris
7:56:49 PM MeiYun: i sometimes do! i havent done it in a while i think!
7:56:54 PM MeiYun: i think i did it with georgia
7:56:55 PM Oswald: my first convo with Faith was about how she suspects Levi
7:57:03 PM MeiYun: and she said *giggle* is not an answer to anything
7:57:08 PM Oswald: you haven't done it with me ::thanks god::
7:57:30 PM Mirela: thats pretty blunt
7:58:01 PM Mirela: i laughed so hard when i read this one topic, where mei yun and georgia were fighting each other
7:58:09 PM Oswald: the second chat with Faith she said that her vote is with Levi right now but that she suspected Robert and was wrong about that
7:58:12 PM Mirela: and she put a picture of her eyes or something
7:58:56 PM Oswald: Faith also told me she thinks Khaled, Gabriela and Ellis are Cits
7:59:15 PM Mirela: hmm
7:59:32 PM Oswald: I get a mostly Cit vibe from Faith right now
7:59:35 PM Oswald: Others?
7:59:40 PM Boris: i currently agree with the ellis sentement
8:00:02 PM Boris: i must talk more with khaled and gabriela
8:00:12 PM Mirela: i have not talked to them at all
8:00:26 PM Jason: Yeah Ellis feels pretty safe, especially after what he did to get Alma
8:02:17 PM MeiYun: oh lets talk about something interesting
8:02:25 PM Oswald: ok!
8:02:26 PM MeiYun: NEGATIVE VOTES!
8:02:29 PM MeiYun: the minus votes!
8:02:29 PM Oswald: WOO HOO
8:02:31 PM Oswald: ha
8:02:36 PM Boris: that is a good thing
8:02:45 PM MeiYun: how is everybody planning to use it?
8:02:45 PM Boris: oh, and mirela, i did not realize you were a new person
8:02:54 PM Oswald: Yeah Sam just posted about it Boris
8:03:03 PM Jason: It depends how the vote looks...
8:03:06 PM Boris: yes, i just read the thread
8:03:10 PM MeiYun: mirela has been possessed...
8:03:14 PM Oswald: are we voting just on our team, or for both?
8:03:16 PM Mirela: yes i am new
8:03:21 PM MeiYun: on our team i think
8:03:24 PM Boris: if someone i think is a citizen is going to be voted for, I will use my minus vote
8:03:26 PM Mirela: a spirit possessed me
8:03:38 PM Mirela: but its gone, so now i'm back to normal
8:03:41 PM Jason: yeah, same for me, Boris
8:03:49 PM Boris: if it is someone i do not know about, i am not sure what I will do with it
8:03:58 PM Oswald: don't we have to use both?
8:04:07 PM Boris: perhaps then i would just vote for a person i am certain of
8:04:08 PM Boris: yes
8:04:13 PM Oswald: I see
8:04:41 PM Oswald: well it seems everyone is certain of Ellis
8:04:48 PM MeiYun: would you throw a minus vote for Ellis?
8:05:05 PM Mirela: i would
8:05:38 PM Boris: currently yes, though i think no one is going to be voting for him
8:05:39 PM Oswald: Having not talked to Ellis at all except for about 10 seconds, I am not sure I would give him my minus just yet
8:05:53 PM Jason: I don't think everyone should minus vote Ellis...
8:05:55 PM Iris: Hi guys! Thanks Mei Yun.
8:05:56 PM MeiYun: so we exile iris right?
8:05:59 PM Boris: he is basically the default for me, unless something dire happens
8:06:03 PM Oswald: yes exiliing of Iris
8:06:04 PM Boris: yes
8:06:05 PM Oswald: OH HI IRIS
8:06:07 PM MeiYun: oh!
8:06:07 PM Iris: Um...hello? :-)
8:06:08 PM Jason: I mean that's like saying "Hey Spies, we all trust Ellis, have fun Imprisoning him"
8:06:13 PM MeiYun: :-(
8:06:13 PM Boris: she is the scummiest of the scum
8:06:28 PM Iris: Why am I getting exiled? For havng a life on Memorial Day weekend?
8:06:31 PM MeiYun: shhh! iris is here!
8:06:35 PM Mirela: hello iris
8:06:36 PM Boris: oh, i did not notice
8:06:39 PM Boris: HELLO IRIS
8:06:41 PM MeiYun: no iris we need you to address something
8:06:44 PM Iris: HI! :-)
8:06:45 PM Iris: Okay.
8:06:47 PM MeiYun: gimme a moment
8:07:00 PM Jason: Hi Iris
8:07:06 PM Oswald: Hiris
8:07:32 PM Iris: Hi Jason, Hi Oswald.
8:07:36 PM Levi: I'm back
8:07:40 PM Iris: Hi back!
8:07:51 PM Levi: LOL @ Iris
8:07:51 PM Jason: Welcome back Return Eye
8:07:58 PM Levi: LOL @ Jason
8:08:00 PM Oswald: that was a quick meal
8:08:07 PM MeiYun: Iris, there is suspicion on that Yvette vs Robert was a leaked plan
8:08:09 PM Levi: I was eating with my family
8:08:11 PM MeiYun: read this
8:08:12 PM MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=762
8:08:12 PM Levi: We don't talk much
8:08:23 PM Levi: In fact, I tried to get away from them ASAP
8:08:32 PM Levi: But enought about me, what'd I miss from the chat?
8:08:55 PM MeiYun: where to use minus votes!
8:10:14 PM Oswald: well the more I think about it the more I am willing to put a stake down and say that I think Levi is getting a bad wrap and I would be inclined to use one on him.
8:10:24 PM Levi: I feel loved
8:10:29 PM Levi: :-)
8:10:48 PM MeiYun: is levi... you know... liek swinging both ways
8:10:58 PM Oswald: haha
8:10:59 PM Levi: The thing is, most of those accusing me are on other teams
8:11:06 PM Levi: Wow Mei, wow
8:11:19 PM Oswald: maybe she means between spy and cit Levi
8:11:27 PM Levi: I don't think that's what she means . . .
8:11:29 PM Mirela: is iris still here?
8:11:39 PM Oswald: who would know
8:11:48 PM Mirela: iris darling, are you there?
8:12:22 PM MeiYun: i sent her to read or something
8:12:32 PM Oswald: Multitasking hard.
8:12:41 PM Iris: Um, okay.
8:12:42 PM Iris: I read.
8:12:56 PM Iris: And I'm getting suspected because Yvette says she trusted me the least? That's rich.
8:14:10 PM Jenya: Hi Iris.
8:14:16 PM Iris: Hi Jenya.
8:14:27 PM MeiYun: also iris, when we were like in pleading stage
8:14:39 PM MeiYun: like ariel was deliberating did you still "forget" to save callahan?
8:14:42 PM Jenya: What's your take on the whole Robert Yvette plan now, Iris?
8:14:43 PM Levi: This is a new development
8:15:05 PM Oswald: Iris, that is my big bone of contention that when Ariel asked to hear pleas you never stepped up to save Calahan
8:15:39 PM Iris: Mei Yun, it never once occurred to me to try to save him. I guess that was stupid, I can see that now. Two reasons:
8:16:05 PM Levi: In Iris's defense
8:16:13 PM Iris: 1. Callahan was convinced that we would learn A LOT from who voted him out. Of course, that turned out to be not true because everyone apart from me voted him.
8:16:35 PM Iris: 2. Callahan wasn't willing to role claim if he in fact had a role. I didn't see it as my place to do it for him.
8:17:21 PM Jason: So did he ever say he had a role or just hint? or does it even qualify as hints?
8:17:34 PM MeiYun: they were good hints
8:17:34 PM MeiYun: lemme find the thread
8:17:35 PM Iris: No, he never said he had a role outright. He hinted.
8:17:48 PM Jenya: Not really.
8:17:54 PM Jenya: Well, in my opinion at least.
8:17:58 PM Oswald: they must not have been able to help him or anyone else
8:18:04 PM Jason: lol conflicting reports -_-
8:18:17 PM MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive8357857&action=display&thread=737
8:18:22 PM Oswald: i mean his roles
8:18:37 PM MeiYun: read it, i think they were good hints
8:19:58 PM Boris: either he was hinting, or he was talking from experience
8:20:03 PM Jenya: Iris, you were in on Robert and Yvette's fake cases Plan?
8:20:11 PM Iris: Yes. And I have a bit to say about that.
8:20:42 PM Jenya: Go for it. I'm interested to hear why you thought that plan would be good for the Citizens.
8:20:43 PM Jason: So those cases were fake all along?? I knew they didnt seem right
8:20:50 PM Jason: I need to read the forums ugh
8:20:52 PM Jenya: Totally fake.
8:21:01 PM Levi: Guys, I'm stilll here
8:21:03 PM Jason: Well
8:21:07 PM Levi: I just don't have much to say about this matter
8:21:08 PM Mirela: do tell
8:21:16 PM Jason: WHO says they were fake, Yvette? that could be convenient to say after Robert's gone
8:21:23 PM Jenya: And Iris and Faith and Ariel
8:21:30 PM Jason: ok nevermind, case shot down lol
8:21:34 PM Oswald: LOL
8:21:46 PM Jenya: It was a top secret plan.
8:21:46 PM Boris: has rey posted the chat log where it was first hatched?
8:21:50 PM Levi: Don't worry
8:21:52 PM Iris: Yes, they were fake all along, and in retrospect it was a terrible idea. Yvette is pretty convincing...she convinced me that it would save her and Robert from the Spies. At the time...
8:21:55 PM Jenya: With only one or two spies in the loop.
8:21:56 PM Levi: Jason, I thought the same thing
8:22:00 PM Levi: When I first heard this
8:22:08 PM Oswald: that's pretty sneaky and genius at the same time
8:22:11 PM Iris: that seemed like a good idea because they were clearly our team leaders.
8:22:44 PM Jenya: Did you have citizen reads on both of them at the time?
8:22:47 PM Iris: I trust Ariel fully. She's the only person I'd put at 100% citizen, and she was in on it too...I came in halfway through the chat and they didn't explain the whole thing to me...
8:22:50 PM Jason: Yeah, I guess the Spies saw through it though, since Robert is gone
8:22:57 PM Iris: but Ariel was in on it so that was good enough for me.
8:23:08 PM Jenya: Why did you have Ariel at 100% citizen?
8:23:19 PM Iris: Jenya, yes. Any suspicion I put on the board about Robert (I was "assigned" to vote for Robert at that time)...
8:23:25 PM Jenya: This is last Wednesday morning we're talking about, right?
8:23:26 PM Oswald: unless one of hte people in on the plan was a Spy
8:23:27 PM Iris: was part of the plan.
8:23:51 PM Iris: I didn't have her at 100% cit at the time...had her at 75, which was the highest out of anyone. NOW I have her at 100% cit.
8:24:20 PM Oswald: Is it possible that someone that was part of that plan was a Spy which led to Robert's removal
8:24:24 PM Iris: I agree though that it's likely that someone in on the plan was a Spy. And I know it isn't me. I'm up in the air about Yvette right now, but if anyone was a Spy...
8:24:28 PM Iris: I think it was Faith.
8:24:34 PM Jenya: Why Faith?
8:24:41 PM Oswald: Faith?
8:24:44 PM Jenya: I did notice that she wasn't too nervous at Imprisonment.
8:24:45 PM MeiYun: um why are people clearing Ariel so qucikly?
8:24:47 PM Iris: Yes.
8:24:48 PM MeiYun: Explain please
8:25:06 PM Iris: Um, what should I answer first? Why I believe in Ariel fully, or why I now think Faith is a Spy?
8:25:12 PM Jenya: Faith.
8:25:15 PM MeiYun: faith
8:25:17 PM Levi: Ariel is no where near clear
8:25:19 PM Jenya: We're not judging Ariel tonight.
8:25:30 PM Iris: Okay, Faith.
8:25:49 PM Iris: Yesterday or the day before I had a chat with her and explained the Callahan thing to her.
8:26:08 PM Oswald: i agree lets not focus on Ariel...FOR NOW
8:26:09 PM Iris: This was before I got a chance to post it on the board.
8:26:16 PM Levi: That is true
8:26:22 PM Levi: We should focus on our teammates
8:26:37 PM Mirela: ariel isn't even on our team
8:26:58 PM Iris: So in the middle of discussing Callahan, I told her that I wanted to explain the Robert/Yvette plan to Khaled. Because Khaled apparently suspected me for...
8:27:12 PM Iris: "bandwagoning" on Robert, which in fact was only part of the Robert/Yvette plan.
8:27:37 PM Iris: She said that she was okay with me telling people about it, but that I should check with Ariel, Robert and Yvette first. I said I would.
8:28:36 PM Levi: I really don't see the merit of the whole "fakecase plan" to be honest
8:28:49 PM Oswald: yeah its a little odd
8:28:54 PM Iris: I didn't get online again before Robert was exiled so I never got to talk to him. In the meantime, the whole "Robert/Yvette" story is posted without my permission, I'm mentioned as the leading Spy candidate of the plan, and...
8:28:56 PM Mirela: the point was what?
8:29:03 PM Oswald: and who all was in on this plan I thought it was only Iris, Yvette and Robert, I had no idea Faith was
8:29:10 PM Jenya: and Ariel
8:29:13 PM Boris: well, i am thinking, so people have two cases, what if no other good case came up?
8:29:25 PM Boris: i have problems with the ideas behind it
8:29:29 PM Mirela: why were you included in the robert/yvette plan?
8:30:02 PM Iris: Faith is telling people I should have worked harder to save Callahan. I feel it's a subtle smudge.
8:30:22 PM Oswald: i think you should have too
8:30:23 PM Iris: Mirela (welcome new Mirela, btw, and thanks for joining us, and I also have you at 90% citizen thanks to Callahan)...is that question for me?
8:30:34 PM Iris: Yes, I should have, I see that now, that's not the point.
8:30:44 PM Levi: But think about it this way:
8:30:53 PM Levi: Would Ariel have saved the person she voted for?
8:30:59 PM Iris: The point is the timing of her trying to get me not to tell my side of the story, and then them posting it where I look like the bad guy.
8:31:02 PM Mirela: yes
8:31:16 PM Mirela: and thank you for the greeting :]
8:31:27 PM Jason: Thats a valid point by Levi, but I think a role claim would make her want to give him more time
8:31:49 PM Iris: YW. :-) I thought I was included in the plan because Yvette and Robert trusted me. The point of the plan was to make Yvette and Robert look like they were easy lynch candidates, so Spies wouldn't bother to Imprison them.
8:31:49 PM Jason: But he wasn't willing to claim so I doubt he had one
8:31:51 PM MeiYun: but i think "i forgot that he had a role and Ariel can save him" isnt exactly something pro-town.
8:31:58 PM Levi: I think he would have claimed right there if he had one
8:32:03 PM Levi: I doubt that he had a role, to be honest
8:32:22 PM Iris: Unfortunately, it didn't work. And now Yvette is saying that she only included me because I was online at that time and they needed one more person.
8:32:36 PM Mirela: why did you consent to this?
8:32:38 PM Iris: I never said "I forgot that he had a role and Ariel can save him."
8:32:38 PM Oswald: whihc is shady too
8:32:42 PM Mirela: did you think it was a good idea?
8:33:01 PM Jason: So was Yvette basically using people?
8:33:14 PM Jason: Or were people using her...?
8:33:15 PM MeiYun: let me check iris
8:33:34 PM Boris: yvette does not seem like someone who gets used
8:33:34 PM Iris: I said it NEVER OCCURED to me to role claim for him, and I gave my reasons. And I've said it twice now in this chat. Mei Yun, putting words in people's mouth is very much a Spy trick.
8:33:52 PM Jason: Good point, Boris
8:33:56 PM Iris: Mirela, I did think it was a good idea at the time. I trusted Robert and Yvette, even more so, Ariel.
8:34:03 PM MeiYun: "I'm sorry I didn't. It didn't seem right at the time to role claim for him if he wasn't willing to do it himself, but in retrospect I wish I'd thought of it. "
8:34:10 PM Iris: It turned out poorly in the execution.
8:34:34 PM Oswald: also if it was Yvette and Robert's plan its safe to assume someone else in the plan was the Spy that tipped others off, that leaves who...Iris and Faith?
8:35:04 PM Iris: Yes...where does that say I forgot? I've said four or five times now that I didn't think I should claim for Callahan if he wasn't willing to claim. Plus he thought we would get good info out of who voted him.
8:35:04 PM Mirela: iris, you have to understand that being involved in that incident has put you on the radar :[
8:35:06 PM Mirela: it was risky
8:35:29 PM Iris: Yes, I see that now. I'm royally pissed actually because it looks like I've been set up to be the fall guy.
8:35:41 PM Levi: Sorry if I'm quiet
8:35:48 PM MeiYun: no that was a mistake on my part but forgetting == " wish I'd thought of it."
8:35:48 PM Levi: I'm distracted by other things at the moment
8:35:52 PM Jenya: How are Faith's suspicions now, Iris?
8:35:56 PM MeiYun: thats why i had the word in my brain
8:36:14 PM Jenya: Have you talked to her since Callahan was exiled?
8:36:18 PM Iris: The last person she told me she suspected was Robert. That was Saturday night, I guess.
8:36:49 PM Iris: Yes, Saturday night. I told her my side of the Callahan story, she told me she didn't read what he was saying as having a role, and said she suspected Robert now.
8:36:50 PM Oswald: in all fairness Faith did tell me she suspected Robert too
8:37:03 PM Iris: Okay, MeiYun, understood.
8:37:23 PM Jason: And there shj
8:37:25 PM Jason: she is!
8:37:33 PM Jenya: So Iris, who are your top picks for Exile?
8:37:42 PM Mirela: lol
8:37:43 PM MeiYun: whos she?
8:37:46 PM Mirela: that came out of nowhere
8:37:53 PM Iris: And the other thing she told me was I shouldn't post about the Robert/Yvette plan until I cleared it with Ariel, Robert, and Yvette.
8:38:02 PM Jason: Faith, she just logged on..
8:38:08 PM MeiYun: invited
8:38:14 PM Jason: Hi Faith
8:38:17 PM MeiYun: so faith is going home?
8:38:22 PM Faith: Hi team!!
8:38:26 PM Faith: wait what? :-(
8:38:33 PM Jason: It looks like a done deal to me
8:38:36 PM Boris: faith, we all hate you and are voting for you
8:38:43 PM Faith:
8:38:43 PM Boris: not because you are spyish, we just don't like you
8:38:44 PM MeiYun: sorry :-(
8:38:48 PM Faith: But...
8:38:49 PM Faith: I like me.
8:38:51 PM MeiYun: we dont like green
8:38:51 PM Jason: :-(
8:38:55 PM Boris: it's nothing per... no, it is personal
8:38:56 PM MeiYun: green is for spies
8:39:02 PM Jenya: Hi Faith, what's this about a plan and fake suspects and stuff?
8:39:02 PM Iris: Faith, babe, they're teasing you...and I like you but I AM voting for you now because I think I've been set up.
8:39:13 PM MeiYun: what Iris said
8:39:54 PM Faith: wait so you're actually voting for me Iris?
8:40:04 PM Faith: just so I can seperate the fun stuff from the not
8:40:14 PM Iris: Yes, I am. I feel you set me up.
8:40:32 PM Faith: Do you mind explaining? Because I never did :\
8:41:00 PM Iris: Yes. Does anyone mind if I just cut/paste from the chat before Faith got here? Because it'll be easier than restating it all.
8:41:00 PM Oswald: WOW
8:41:24 PM Faith: please do, or send it to me over pm or something
8:41:35 PM Levi: That's a very interesting development
8:41:35 PM Jenya: Do you girls still trust Yvette?
8:41:49 PM Jenya: You obviously had to trust her a lot to deceive the town like you did.
8:42:11 PM Faith: I just posted on the topic in the burg.
8:42:16 PM Faith: I don't know if you all read it or not
8:42:18 PM Iris: Okay, Faith, it's coming up. Oswald, what's the"WOW" for.
8:42:27 PM Oswald: your ballsiness Iris
8:42:47 PM Iris: Um, thanks, I think, but what does that refer to?
8:43:16 PM Boris: i must be going away at the moment, i will be home later, i will be leaving this chat open
8:43:23 PM Oswald: to you telling Faith you are voting her
8:43:31 PM Boris: hopefully i will see you all tonight
8:43:53 PM Faith: But do I trust Yvette right now? No. She could very well be a spy. I agreed to go with the plan because I felt Robert/Yvette were the most outspoken and would be targetted by spies first
8:44:03 PM Jenya: How about you, Iris?
8:44:15 PM Faith: and I'm glad Iris is being honest Oswald. I rather know people are voting for me than not.
8:44:25 PM Iris: Well, if I'm wrong I want her to have a chance to defend herself.
8:45:12 PM Iris: Jenya, I haven't had a chance to speak to Yvette again since the plan. I trust her less though. I trust Ariel fully, and I believe I've been set up, so it's got to be Faith or Yvette.
8:45:18 PM Levi: I agree with you there Faith
8:45:25 PM Mirela: why is ariel is wonderful?
8:45:31 PM Mirela: is there a reason why she's liked?
8:45:33 PM Mirela: so much
8:45:40 PM Iris: Faith, do you actually know who ORIGINATED this plan? Was it Robert's idea or Yvette?
8:45:56 PM Faith: I honestly have no clue
8:45:58 PM Jenya: Mirela, Ariel gets a half a brownie point for helping exile Almathea.
8:46:05 PM Faith: when I was invited Robert/Ariel/Yvette were in the room
8:46:17 PM Levi: I like brownies
8:46:18 PM Mirela: ah i see
8:46:20 PM Faith: It sounded to me Yvette
8:46:25 PM Faith: as she had the most ideas with it
8:46:31 PM Jenya: But she loses a half a brownie point for exiling Callahan.
8:46:33 PM Faith: but I don't know for sure
8:46:39 PM MeiYun: so Faith was in there before Iris was let into the plan?
8:46:43 PM Iris: Because speaking of ballsy, that would be ballsy...Yvette gets Robert to agree to this plan so he doesn't try too hard, and then gets him Imprisoned at night.
8:46:47 PM Jenya: So Ariel is one out of two, plus she was part of this terrible plan that makes no sense.
8:46:59 PM Mirela: obviously the people surrounding the incident are important
8:47:05 PM Mirela: for all we know yvette could be the spy
8:47:26 PM Jenya: What do you girls think of Paris?
8:47:38 PM Levi: I really wish Paris were online right now
8:47:39 PM Jenya: Iris and Faith, any opinion on him?
8:47:58 PM Jason: I think everyone wants Paris to get online
8:48:09 PM Oswald: or get out, ha
8:48:16 PM Iris: Jenya, I haven't ever spoken to Paris. I think he could be Spy, but my belief is based on Rey's case. I have Rey at 75% citizen. I won't vote him until I talk to him though.
8:48:35 PM Faith: I havn't talked to him one on one yet but I am following his case. I thought it was intersting that you pointed out he wanted roxy saved but later changed to alma
8:48:56 PM MeiYun: FAITH/IRIS: spies6MeiYun (5:46:23 PM): so Faith was in there before Iris was let into the plan?
8:49:16 PM Iris: Yes, MeiYun, I was the last to get there.
8:49:24 PM Faith: Yeah.
8:49:31 PM Jenya: Faith, do you suspect Paris was teammates with Roxy and/or Almathea?
8:49:58 PM Iris: Jenya, what do you think the odds are that BOTH Roxy and Alma were Spies? I think that's next to impossible.
8:50:03 PM Jenya: Why?
8:50:11 PM Faith: I'm not really sure Roxy is a spy at the moment.
8:50:20 PM Jenya: Roxy got the most votes.
8:50:22 PM Faith: A lot of the stuff she has said sounds like a new player to me.
8:50:25 PM Jenya: She could easily be a spy.
8:50:33 PM Faith: Paris could be teamates with Alam though.
8:50:39 PM Levi: We just voted Roxy, because she said voting with the crowd isn't scummy
8:50:44 PM Iris: Because in Mafia on a Day one lynch, the lynchee is virtually always town. I've never played Spies before, but I understand Alma was the first Spy to ever be Exiled on Day One.
8:50:52 PM Iris: That just seems impossible to me that they're both Spies.
8:51:03 PM Iris: I shouldn't say impossible. Unlikely.
8:51:16 PM Faith: If Paris is a spy with Alma though, my question would be why didn't he vote jocelyn as well?
8:51:21 PM Jenya: Have you talked to the people who voted for Roxy?
8:51:34 PM MeiYun: i think i have been clear on the roxy case
8:51:37 PM Jenya: To see if they were right?
8:52:23 PM Iris: Faith, he might not have voted Jocelyn because it was apparent that she would eventually be mod-killed anyway.
8:52:38 PM MeiYun: also, i dont want to argue based on the "probability" somebody is a spy. why dont you see if the merits on her case actually has merit?
8:53:00 PM Jenya: ROXY (4): Gretchen, Mei Yun, Levi, Boris
8:53:11 PM Levi: It is true, I voted her
8:53:11 PM MeiYun: thats big
8:53:19 PM Levi: She said that voting with the crowd wasn't scummy
8:53:21 PM Levi: that was scummy
8:53:50 PM Iris: Who said that? Roxy?
8:54:05 PM MeiYun: OMG we have a leaderboard
8:54:06 PM Levi: yes
8:54:09 PM MeiYun: omg omg
8:54:14 PM MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi
8:54:37 PM Iris: I disagree with you there, Mei Yun, though I certainly will back up probability with arguments. Probability has served me very well in my Mafia career.
8:54:37 PM Mirela: yay
8:55:04 PM MeiYun: but iris, probability alone should not be the one that makes or breaks the case
8:55:26 PM MeiYun: you/spmebody are telling us that roxy is unlikely to be a spy based on probabilities
8:55:39 PM MeiYun: im not gonna fold just based on that
8:55:43 PM Levi: brb
8:55:52 PM Oswald: i'll brb too have to make some food
8:55:59 PM Iris: I'm not telling you to fold. If you suspect her strongly you most certainly should follow up on that. I'm just stating my opinion.
8:56:44 PM Jenya: Iris, if Yvette was in this group, would you exile her or Faith?
8:57:03 PM Faith: and actually can I still know why I'm getting your vote?
8:57:14 PM Jenya: And Faith, who are you thinking of voting for right now?
8:57:17 PM MeiYun: and im stating mine, iris
8:57:32 PM Iris: Yes, Faith, sorry, I got distracted with the talk of Roxy.
8:57:32 PM Faith: If I had to vote right now I'd vote for Levi.
8:57:37 PM Faith: no problem :-)
8:57:37 PM Mirela: thats random
8:57:38 PM Jenya: We have about 24 hours to decide, right?
8:57:49 PM MeiYun: 26
8:57:50 PM Iris: Jenya, it would depend on their answers to my questions about me getting thrown under the bus.
8:58:05 PM Iris: which faith can't answer until I give her my opinion, so let me do that now.
8:58:15 PM Faith: okay was just going to say that lol
8:58:18 PM Iris: :-)
9:00:23 PM Levi: alright guys, I'm back
9:00:30 PM Levi: Did I miss anything important?
9:00:37 PM Jason: Welcome back Leave Eye... tons, this time for real
9:00:56 PM Mirela: why would you exile levi faith?
9:01:43 PM Faith: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=704 The case there Mirela.
9:02:07 PM Levi: Whoa, Faith is exiling me?
9:02:13 PM Jason: :-(
9:02:17 PM Mirela: do you think kristen is credible?
9:02:20 PM Faith: If I had to vote right now, yes it would be on you.
9:02:42 PM Mirela: don't you think paris has a way stronger case though?
9:02:58 PM Levi: I don't know
9:03:09 PM Levi: I admit, both cases are strong in their own ways
9:03:16 PM Faith: I haven't talked to Kristen one on one yet so I can't say she is credible for sure but when I asked Levi questions on it he forgot thing he said himself
9:03:21 PM Mirela: your saying your own case is strong?
9:03:27 PM Levi: Yes, I am
9:03:32 PM Levi: I admit that I am under suspicion
9:03:43 PM Levi: And that Kirsten has a way with words to make it seem like I'm a Spy
9:03:57 PM Levi: If I was someone who had just walked into the gaem, I would vote for me
9:05:01 PM Jason: Well Leave Eye its a good thing you're not the new Mirela? lol..
9:05:09 PM Levi: True, it is
9:05:48 PM Mirela: why wouldn't you vote for iris, faith?
9:06:07 PM Levi: And about me forgetting a post, like Faith said, it is true
9:06:24 PM Levi: I forgot a post that I typed up in five minutes as I was rusing to leave the house for a family gathering
9:07:10 PM Levi: I fail to see how that is suspicious
9:07:55 PM Jenya: What do you girls think of Ed and Khaled?
9:08:01 PM Levi: Wow, I'm good at these awkward silence thins, ain't I?
9:08:13 PM Jason: You're the master, man
9:10:07 PM Jason: And now I am...
9:10:23 PM Levi: LOL
9:10:36 PM Faith: Sorry I was replying to Iris and I'll type when I told her in here
9:11:06 PM Faith: spies6iris (9:05:29 PM):
Sure, but it's the main reason I suspect you. Basically you told me to check with them first, and in the meantime, they posted the plan and I'm looking like the fall guy.
9:11:14 PM Faith:
spies6Faith (9:07:16 PM): I honestly thought then you were a citizen and I still think you are one now. If Khaled was asking you questions about the whole ordeal then I didn't want you to be suspected for it. I was fine with you telling him for the reason I didn't want people to suspect you for wrong reasons
spies6Faith (9:07:41 PM): I said check with the others because I had no clue what their thoughs on the plan was after exile. I hadn't talked to them about it
9:11:33 PM Khaled: Hey guys
9:11:48 PM MeiYun: so it khaled tomorrow?
9:11:50 PM MeiYun: *its
9:11:57 PM Khaled: *Panic*
9:12:07 PM Levi: Oh, hey Khaled!
9:12:12 PM MeiYun: uh oh!
9:12:17 PM Mirela: hello
9:12:18 PM Levi: ROFL
9:12:20 PM Khaled: I'm not that much of a party killer, am I?
9:12:28 PM Khaled: Hey Mirela, good to see you!
9:12:47 PM Jenya: Hi Khaled.
9:12:48 PM Mirela: its good to see you too :]
9:13:06 PM MeiYun: Levi, what do you think of the situation between iris/faith?
9:13:42 PM Levi: With the whole fake case thing?
9:14:02 PM Levi: I thought Iris coming out and saying
9:14:07 PM Levi: That she would vote for Faith
9:14:10 PM Levi: Was very . . . sudeen
9:14:12 PM Levi: *sudden
9:14:22 PM Levi: As to Spy involvement, not sure
9:15:25 PM Levi: Why is there another awkward silence?
9:15:51 PM MeiYun: because i got ice cream?
9:16:21 PM MeiYun: hello?
9:16:29 PM Levi: lol
9:16:34 PM MeiYun: omg :-(
9:16:38 PM Khaled: I'm catching up in the Burg
9:17:05 PM Faith: sorry I'm just talking to Iris. Will post it when we are done :-)
9:17:15 PM Faith: if she wants to move it to here, I'm fine with it
9:17:29 PM Khaled: What
9:17:31 PM Khaled: no I haven't
9:17:32 PM Jenya: Khaled, why did you change your vote at the last minute?
9:17:45 PM Jenya: You knew Callahan was being exiled.
9:17:58 PM MeiYun: LOL
9:18:04 PM Jenya: Tough question I know
9:18:12 PM Levi: lol
9:18:12 PM Jenya: Regroup and give it a shot
9:18:15 PM Faith: hang on did I miss something
9:18:19 PM Faith:
spies6khaled (9:14:55 PM): What
spies6khaled (9:14:57 PM): no I haven't
9:18:23 PM Faith: what was he talking about there?
9:18:40 PM Jenya: lol wrong window
9:18:45 PM Jenya: busted
9:20:01 PM Khaled: I managed to get your last little question, Jenya
9:20:25 PM Jenya: Khaled, who are you having a private chat with right now?
9:20:29 PM Jenya: If you don't mind me asking.
9:20:33 PM Khaled: And while my vote did end up being for Callahan
9:20:38 PM Khaled: Nobody but you (right now)
9:20:45 PM Khaled: For that brief limbo interval
9:20:51 PM Jason: lol
9:20:58 PM Jenya:
spies6khaled (6:17:20 PM): What
spies6khaled (6:17:22 PM): no I haven't
9:21:05 PM Khaled: [20:17] *** spies6Khaled has left the chat.
9:21:12 PM Jenya: What's that, mistell to the Dominos pizza guy?
9:21:17 PM Khaled: mistell to AIM
9:21:31 PM Jenya: Who were you chatting with?
9:21:36 PM Jenya: No I haven't what?
9:21:39 PM Khaled: Nobody. I swear.
9:21:42 PM Jenya: Ordered a pepperoni with cheese?
9:21:44 PM Khaled: [20:16] spies6Faith: if she wants to move it to here, I'm fine with it
[20:17] *** spies6Khaled has left the chat.
[20:17] spies6khaled: What
[20:17] spies6khaled: no I haven't
9:22:06 PM Khaled: It was self-response to AIM saying I left.
9:22:11 PM Jenya: Was that meant for us somehow?
9:22:17 PM Levi: The plot thickens
9:22:20 PM Khaled: Somehow
9:22:25 PM Jenya: oh
9:22:29 PM Jenya: no i havent left the chat?
9:22:31 PM Jenya: got it
9:22:32 PM Khaled: It was me talking out loud through my fingers
9:22:47 PM Khaled: In any case
9:22:51 PM Amelia: hi everyone
9:22:56 PM Khaled: I wanted to change to Iris
9:22:56 PM Jenya: Hi amelia.
9:23:05 PM Jenya: Because you trusted Callahan?
9:23:09 PM Khaled: because right before the deadline, Callahan sent me several AIM logs
9:23:10 PM MeiYun: yay theres a lot of people!
9:23:13 PM Jenya: Or you wanted Iris exiled?
9:23:16 PM Mirela: oh my amelia is here?
9:23:32 PM Khaled: Doing that is a big anti-spy move.
9:23:32 PM Amelia: I know, call off the dogs ;-)
9:23:46 PM Levi: Lol
9:23:52 PM Jenya: So why didn't you ask Ariel to save him?
9:23:55 PM Khaled: Especially if he knew he would be lynched.
9:24:06 PM Amelia: yeah I don't get that
9:24:17 PM Khaled: Ariel wasn't really a fan of me then either; I had no faith in my or anyone else's ability to convince her.
9:24:41 PM MeiYun: amelia quickly why did you vote for kirsten?
9:24:57 PM Amelia: b/c when Levi originally accused her, I thought he was basically jumping at shadows
9:25:13 PM Amelia: then her defense of herself seemed like she was trying way too hard to explain something so trivial
9:25:18 PM Khaled: But I then changed to Iris because she was the next-likiliest spy candidate, according to my analysis
9:25:23 PM Khaled: Speaking of which
9:25:29 PM Khaled: She said she has to talk to me still
9:26:59 PM MeiYun: are you still suspicious of kirsten? what do you think of her case on Levi?
9:27:05 PM MeiYun: ^fir amelia
9:27:06 PM MeiYun: *for
9:27:12 PM MeiYun: oh god
9:27:19 PM Khaled: It might be another thing like mine
9:27:26 PM MeiYun: spies6MeiYun (6:26:42 PM): are you still suspicious of kirsten? what do you think of her case on Levi?
spies6MeiYun (6:26:48 PM): ^fir amelia
spies6MeiYun (6:26:49 PM): *for
9:28:06 PM Levi: So, we are talking about me now, arne't we
9:28:18 PM Amelia: I think anything she says is suspect
9:28:19 PM MeiYun: its always about you Levi
9:28:29 PM Amelia: she's too loud and too fluffy to actually be a Citizen
9:28:40 PM Amelia: she's trying to look good by formulating a case against the guy who called her out
9:28:55 PM Amelia: fortunately, she's not my effing problem at the moment
9:29:02 PM Amelia: but that's neither here nor there ;-)
9:29:12 PM Levi: LOL
9:29:28 PM MeiYun: have you talked to kirsten?
9:29:35 PM Amelia: we never seem to be online at the same time
9:29:44 PM Amelia: and she's never directly addressed me in the thread
9:29:56 PM Faith: I'd actually like to talk to her myself. I can't say I've seen her online lately
9:30:09 PM Levi: I would like to talk to Paris
9:30:10 PM Amelia: her ignoring my accusations is frustrating, but I do suspect her for making a big deal about nothing, so I can't be hypocritical
9:30:13 PM Levi: But that's beside the point
9:30:30 PM Faith: No I'd like to talk to Paris as well Levi :-)
9:30:54 PM MeiYun: paris should be online tonight
9:34:53 PM MeiYun: kirstgen has not been around since that case i think
9:36:03 PM Levi: I haven't seen her
9:36:13 PM Levi: but then again, I haven't been looking for her since the team swap thing
9:37:45 PM Khaled: Man, quiet party.
9:37:59 PM Faith: I know I came in late, but who is everyone else currently suspecting?
9:38:21 PM Iris: Jenya, I've talked to Faith and after hearing what she has to say, I think it's more likely that Yvette is setting me up than Faith.
9:38:45 PM Iris: So to answer your question before, I still have to hear what Yvette has to say, but right now I would vote Yvette over Faith.
9:39:10 PM Mirela: yvettes not on our team though
9:39:19 PM Mirela: who would you vote for thats apart of our team
9:39:49 PM Iris: I know, I'm answering a question Jenya directed to me earlier though.
9:40:30 PM Iris: If I had to vote THIS SECOND I'd vote Paris, but I haven't talked to him yet and I want to hear his defense.
9:40:56 PM MeiYun: heres the deal anyone, most of the defense for paris have been stated in the thread
9:41:09 PM MeiYun: unless you have new questions or concerns, you waiting for paris is slightly moot
9:41:19 PM MeiYun: make sure you have read that thread thoroughly
9:41:33 PM Jenya: Well, it'd be good to hear Paris's current suspicions once he catches up.
9:41:41 PM Levi: Yes it would
9:41:50 PM Levi: Sorry that I'm quiet guys, working on stuff for another game
9:42:14 PM Mirela: well this is fun
9:43:00 PM Khaled: If I had ten seconds to make a vote, it would be for Levi, but given that I haven't compiled across-game data on him yet
9:43:02 PM Khaled: that's hardly damning
9:43:04 PM Levi: Thrills a minute
9:44:07 PM MeiYun: promises promises
9:44:50 PM Khaled: Mei Yun, you should check the timestamp on the post I made for Episode 1
9:45:03 PM Khaled: I think I got it up a full one hour before deadline?
9:45:21 PM Faith: Why would you vote Levi at the moment Khaled? Even if you haven't done your across-game data thingy.
9:46:01 PM Khaled: Cursory look at the arguments against him
9:46:36 PM Khaled: The presented data against him is valid, and the intermediate conclusions are also
9:46:42 PM Khaled: The final conclusion may or may not be so
9:47:03 PM MeiYun: no i was talking about your analysis of levi/levi reactions
9:47:11 PM Iris: Faith, important question for you!
9:47:19 PM Faith: go for it!
9:47:21 PM Khaled: Yeah, that's coming.
9:47:27 PM Iris: Do you remember why it was so important that we were NOT to tell Khaled or Ed about the plan?
9:47:35 PM Levi: I have a question for Khaled
9:47:48 PM Faith: Because we were supposed to see if Ed/Khaled jumped agasint Yvette or Robert
9:47:59 PM Levi: Why are you voting me based on that thread without making an effort to question me about the matter yourself?
9:48:01 PM Faith: and started agreeing with the cases to get them exiled
9:48:23 PM Khaled: Levi, I'm not voting you (yet)
9:48:43 PM Khaled: I said that if I had ten seconds to make a decision, I would.
9:48:51 PM Khaled: I've got a little over 24 hours.
9:48:58 PM Khaled: And yes, I will question you
9:49:06 PM Levi: I'm just checking
9:49:06 PM Khaled: Right now, I'm off-group chatting with Iris
9:49:13 PM Khaled: Take a number
9:49:15 PM Levi: Ok, there's what I was looking for
9:49:22 PM Levi: I was going to say, you've had all this time
9:49:24 PM Levi: but you were busy
9:49:41 PM Khaled: Not really. I've been busy, but I leave my computer online
9:49:59 PM Levi: Sorry guys, I have to go
9:50:17 PM MeiYun: khaled if you have questuions for levi i expect you to post them in the board
9:50:34 PM Khaled: I'll post a transcript, MeiYun, ideally
9:53:15 PM Jenya: Faith and Iris, can you please post the chat you had when you set up the Robert/Yvette plan?
9:53:41 PM Jenya: Whatever group chat that was?
9:54:29 PM Iris: Jenya, I can't remember the name of the chat room, and I came in late. I'm not the best person to do it.
9:54:43 PM Faith: I'll check if I have it. My computer didn't save all my logs round one
9:54:58 PM Jenya: It would be really interesting to see those conversations.
9:55:00 PM Iris: I'd really LOVE to see it though because now I really want to know if Yvette started this idea.
9:56:26 PM Khaled: Yvette said she would post it
9:56:29 PM Faith: No my computer didn't save it. Yvette said she was going to post it after Rey posted something though
9:56:36 PM Khaled: Why she needs to wait is beyond me
9:56:46 PM Faith: Yeah I don't know why she has to wait either
9:57:07 PM Iris: Damn, I wish ROBERT would have posted it before he died because I don't know that I trust Yvette to not conveniently edit it.
9:57:18 PM Mirela: haha
9:57:28 PM Faith: I would assume Ariel has it as well
9:57:44 PM Jenya: Ariel is away for a while.
10:01:20 PM Oswald: i'm back
10:01:25 PM Khaled: Welcome back
10:02:17 PM MeiYun: im out for the meantime
10:02:24 PM Oswald: what did I miss?
10:02:26 PM MeiYun: i will be around tomorrow
10:03:28 PM Amelia: Oz, do you or do you not suspect Levi?
10:03:45 PM Amelia: (and hi, sorry to waylay without a proper hello ;-))
10:03:55 PM Oswald: I am about 95% Levi = Citizen, and 5% Levi = Spy
10:04:01 PM Oswald: so I have a lingering doubt you could say
10:04:14 PM Amelia: fair enough
10:04:16 PM MeiYun: LOL thats even more than what i think
10:04:42 PM MeiYun: i am nowhere near 95% in thinking levi is a citizen
10:04:46 PM Oswald: oh and hello Amelia
10:05:07 PM Oswald: nice to finally meet you
10:05:12 PM MeiYun: i will see you tomorrow
10:06:09 PM Mirela: bye mei
10:06:30 PM Iris: Boy, Mei Yun is aggressive, isn't she?
10:06:38 PM Amelia: yeah, isn't it glorious? :-)
10:06:47 PM Amelia: she's so aggressive
10:07:03 PM Mirela: haha
10:07:03 PM Amelia: it's nice to see someone who's more in your face than me
10:07:11 PM Khaled: She's pretty awesome
10:07:12 PM Mirela: so direct
10:07:19 PM Oswald: you're "in your face"?
10:07:34 PM Amelia: haha
10:07:35 PM Mirela: does anyone here think mei yun is a possible spy?
10:07:48 PM Amelia: well, not aggressively so, but I will ask direct questions
10:07:53 PM Amelia: Mirela, no I don't
10:08:03 PM Mirela: i think she's trustworthy
10:08:04 PM Amelia: in fact, if she flips Spy I'll streak or something
10:08:07 PM Oswald: @ Amelia I guess :
s eyes::10:08:10 PM Mirela: she helped me so much
10:08:16 PM Oswald: And no I don't think Mei is a Spy
10:08:23 PM Mirela: the spirits tell me she is good people
10:08:25 PM Amelia: oh Oz, you're so sweet to me
10:08:44 PM Oswald:
10:09:32 PM Mirela: amelia, you look like alice glass of crystal castles
10:11:13 PM Amelia: thank you! she's gorgeous and has a great voice
10:11:28 PM Mirela: isn't she? i've been to one of hr concerts
10:11:32 PM Mirela: its amazing
10:11:42 PM Amelia: <-- Jealous
10:12:14 PM Amelia: well, folks
10:12:19 PM Amelia: I still need to unpack
10:12:26 PM Amelia: but Spies was my first priority ;-)
10:12:30 PM Mirela: haha
10:12:35 PM Amelia: I think I've done all the chatting I can squeeze in tonight
10:12:54 PM Amelia: I'll tty all later
10:13:16 PM Khaled: Well
10:13:23 PM Khaled: They just posted the group chats
10:19:57 PM Iris: Khaled, can you do a link please?
10:20:22 PM Faith: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive9598181&action=display&thread=785&page=1 I know I'm not him but I'm reading it now :X
10:20:45 PM Khaled: Yeah
10:20:46 PM Khaled: sorry
10:20:50 PM Khaled: I'm really into it
10:22:26 PM Iris: Thanks, Faith. :-)
10:40:28 PM Oswald: OK I think I am going to head out for the night, I've been on all day
10:41:16 PM Khaled: Sounds good
10:41:19 PM Khaled: take it easy, Oz
10:52:26 PM Khaled: Wow
10:52:30 PM Khaled: I finally made it through that
10:52:41 PM Khaled: I'm going to go watch the rest of the Lakers/Nuggets game
10:52:47 PM Khaled: And return at its conclusion
10:55:42 PM Paris: Hi everyone. Sorry for the late appearance. Had a hectic day today
10:55:50 PM Faith: You missed the rush :-)
10:56:06 PM Mirela: hello paris
10:56:16 PM Paris: Apolgies for that
10:56:24 PM Paris: Since I am a prime suspect for the upcoming exile
10:56:35 PM Paris: is there anything you guys need cleared up
10:56:38 PM Mirela: well
10:56:43 PM Paris: specifically on the case towards me.
10:56:50 PM Mirela: the reason why everyone suspects you
10:56:54 PM Mirela: is for two reasons
10:56:55 PM Paris: The obvious one is the fact that I didn't vote Alma.
10:57:00 PM Mirela: yes
10:57:17 PM Mirela: and you also didn't put her on your list of suspicions. at all
10:57:30 PM Paris: Could that have been easily forgotten by anyone?
10:57:40 PM Paris: or is it mere coincidence that the person I left out was in fact a spy.
10:57:50 PM Paris: I honestly looked over her when I was making the list
10:57:53 PM Mirela: i'm the new mirela, so i don't know much about the ordeal
10:58:05 PM Mirela: but this is the evidence i've gathered so far
10:58:24 PM Paris: oh hi New Mirela as well!
10:58:54 PM Mirela: :]
10:58:56 PM Faith: yeah amazing Mirela joined us today <3
10:59:08 PM Mirela: a spirit took over my body
10:59:16 PM Mirela: but that bitchy spirit has been excercised
10:59:22 PM Paris: btw i may disconnect sometimes, so pelase excuse me
10:59:35 PM Paris: im trying to respond to your statement about leaving alma out as well mirela
11:00:04 PM Paris: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=625&page=2
11:00:28 PM Paris: In this thread, this is where we posted all our suspicions. For me, I was honestly jumping around all over the place with the names and forgot Alma. I separated into several categories -
11:00:48 PM Paris: Suspicious Of, Probably Not, Citizen, No Read
11:01:01 PM Paris: I had meant to put Alma in No Read as I didn't talk to her enough
11:01:10 PM Paris: or understood the case against her
11:01:25 PM Mirela: so you "forgot"
11:01:28 PM Paris: but since I started off with Suspicious Of, followed by Probably Not, then citizen, i just totally glazed over alma
11:02:38 PM Mirela: thats interesting
11:03:03 PM Mirela: cause there has already been a case today
11:03:09 PM Mirela: where someone 'forgot'
11:05:42 PM Mirela: is anyone else going to talk here?
11:05:53 PM Paris: side conversation with Faith as well, I do apologize
11:06:01 PM Paris: I think its easy to forget things in thsi game though
11:06:12 PM Paris: You can't assume that everything that people forget = spy at all
11:06:27 PM Paris: People are human, I'm human, I forget what was said, look over things
11:06:33 PM Faith: Sorry yeah I'm talking to both of you privatley
11:07:52 PM Faith: I'm just going to move the convo in here Paris if that's okay with you. Less confusing to jump from chat to chat.
11:08:04 PM Faith: So what were your opinions on Alma before she was gone?
11:08:08 PM Paris: no that's quite alright Faith
11:08:17 PM Paris: It's actually better to be more public with reasonings and such
11:08:30 PM Faith: I agree :-)
11:08:44 PM Mirela: not that there's much of an audience
11:08:50 PM Paris: I didn't know her. People thought she was suspicious based on the context of her wording. I didn't read her conversation in depth fully. I ony had one talk with her
11:10:42 PM Paris: lol it happens but at least its for records
11:11:09 PM Faith: yeah plus Khaled, jenya, and Boris can look at it later as well
11:11:22 PM Faith: I'm sure it'll get posted now that I think of it but yeah :-)
11:11:47 PM Paris: yeah. Mirela is telling me that nearly the whole group suspects me
11:12:10 PM Faith: Well you do have to admit the situation needs to be looked at.
11:12:16 PM Faith: You were one of two people not voting a spy.
11:12:25 PM Faith: not including the inactive.
11:12:51 PM Paris: and if I was in the shoes of the others, it makes complete sense that I would be suspected for sure
11:13:56 PM Paris: So as of now, there are several suspects on the table
11:14:05 PM Paris: Iris, for her case on Callahan??
11:14:14 PM Paris: Levi, for his wishy washiness behavior?
11:14:20 PM Paris: Paris, for his failure to vote out a spy
11:14:36 PM Faith: People are looking at Iris for not doing anything about Callahan I think?
11:14:50 PM Paris: What exactly was it that she wasn't doing?
11:14:59 PM Mirela: i don't think iris is a spy
11:15:19 PM Faith: At the moment I don't think she is either.
11:15:25 PM Faith: I'll send you the link
11:15:32 PM Paris: What has she done to convince you she isn't a spy.
11:15:43 PM Faith: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive8357857&action=display&thread=737
11:15:46 PM Mirela: i've talked to her individuallly, and she brought up a few good points
11:15:52 PM Paris: From what I read from her,s he is very subdued and very intelligent in the things she says
11:17:06 PM Paris: ok so based on her first post, she didn't vote callahan because she thought he had a role
11:17:18 PM Faith: Right.
11:17:20 PM Mirela: apparently so
11:17:31 PM Faith: I don't think he had one, but that's just me.
11:17:43 PM Paris: Do we happen to know if Iris fished it out of him or Callahan made the first reference
11:17:50 PM Faith: he sent her a pm
11:17:58 PM Paris: So he initiated
11:18:08 PM Paris: Why Iris specifically?
11:18:14 PM Faith: He felt she was a citizen
11:18:23 PM Paris: ok.
11:18:24 PM Faith: he sent pm's to rey and khaled as well
11:18:34 PM Paris: gotcha so they can vouch for Iris.
11:18:44 PM Paris: he spread his message around to three separate people
11:19:01 PM Faith: mhm. I'm not sure if they were all the same pm's though
11:19:30 PM Faith: I don't know if Khaled's had any mention that Callahan could have a role
11:19:51 PM Paris: So why exatly are people like Mei Yun harping on Iris though.
11:19:57 PM Paris: She seems to have good intentions from what I am reading
11:20:08 PM Paris: Trying to help a citizen who seems to want to role claim but cna't
11:20:08 PM Faith: Mei Yun wants to know why Iris didn't do anything to try to save him
11:20:24 PM Mirela: what was she uspposed to do
11:20:32 PM Faith: Like going to Ariel and telling her to save Callahan
11:20:45 PM Paris: what about the risk that Iris would take if Callahan did end up being a spy though
11:20:49 PM Faith: Which goes back to why I don't think Callahan had a role. He could have just done it himself
11:21:05 PM Mirela: but he heavily hinted
11:21:06 PM Mirela: he had one
11:21:13 PM Paris: but any spy could hint one though
11:21:13 PM Faith: then why not role claim?
11:21:21 PM Paris: Why was it on her to role claim for him?
11:21:31 PM Mirela: maybe he didn't know he was going to be voted off
11:21:45 PM Faith: He did. He knew a majority of people were against him.
11:21:45 PM Paris: he said that "it was too late for him"
11:21:53 PM Faith: Iris even told him he should role claim if he had something
11:22:00 PM Faith: and he said what Paris just said
11:22:25 PM Paris: right, Iris advised him to come out with it rather than her herself come out with it
11:24:16 PM Paris: As of now, I don't think thats enough to put Iris as a spy
11:24:55 PM Faith: I don't think so either. As far as I know Rey knew about it as well
11:25:01 PM Faith: and he didn't go to Ariel or anyone either
11:25:21 PM Paris: Right and people aren't harping on him for it.
11:25:37 PM Mirela: Paris, who do you think should be exiled
11:26:13 PM Paris: As of now, I am just voting based on the informatio from my previous team,
11:26:16 PM Paris: and it would be for Jenya
11:26:24 PM Faith: can you explain why?
11:26:33 PM Faith: and actually can you tell us about your old team and what you think of them?
11:26:35 PM Paris: I have not talked fully with anyone on this new team to make any new suspects for myself
11:26:54 PM Paris: Levi, I don't understand his case (exactly the same way I felt about alma, and I havne't really been focusing on it)
11:27:18 PM Paris: The case against Jenya mainly, as I told Mirela in private chat, with the fact of her quick switching from the vote on Jaya to Alma
11:27:55 PM Paris: The day before the exile vote, Jenya, myself, and Ellis were in a chatroom together and we talked extensively on who should be the vote or cmae up with suspicions
11:28:10 PM Paris: we all seem to agree that jaya would be a good vote based on her lurker activity
11:28:27 PM Paris: Jenya , by the end of the chat, said that she wanted us to stay on our votes for Jaya in fear that she herself would get voted out
11:28:31 PM Faith: So are you suspicous of Ellis then as well?
11:28:47 PM Mirela: i don't think ellis is a spy
11:30:05 PM Paris: ok
11:30:07 PM Paris: sorry about that
11:30:11 PM Faith: no worries :-)
11:30:11 PM Mirela: and i was talking to jenya, and she says she trusts
11:30:14 PM Paris: what was the last thing I said
11:30:16 PM Mirela: ellis
11:30:26 PM Faith:
spies6Paris (11:25:39 PM): Jenya , by the end of the chat, said that she wanted us to stay on our votes for Jaya in fear that she herself would get voted out
spies6Faith (11:25:43 PM): So are you suspicous of Ellis then as well?
11:30:50 PM Paris: ok , the fact that Jenya tried to garner votes in order to sav eherself from exiting, added to my suspicion of her. Ellis wasn't trying to collect votes to save himself
11:31:23 PM Paris: I don't really remember Jenya talking about Alma too much either.
11:32:01 PM Paris: I need to go back to my chats on Ellis on whether he suspected Alma but I haven't really focused on him as the fact Jenya seemed to push Jaya moreso than Ellis, and her switch to Alma, makes me think she coped to the pressure of the team
11:32:14 PM Faith: Alma has helped clear Ellis in my mind.
11:32:29 PM Faith: From the looks of it she was against him a lot
11:33:07 PM Paris: yeah, in my sole chat with Ellis, there was no heavy talk about Alma
11:33:08 PM Faith: From chats posted though it looked like Jenya had no problem with a Alma lynch
11:33:22 PM Faith: I think she even started disccusion on it herself
11:33:26 PM Mirela: i don't jenya is a spy
11:33:33 PM Mirela: oswald is a little suspicious
11:33:42 PM Paris: Let me find my chat that ellis, jenya and myself were in
11:33:47 PM Faith: cool :-)
11:33:54 PM Faith: why do you think oswald is suspicious mirela?
11:34:37 PM Mirela: well he's just a little strange
11:34:48 PM Mirela: he was telling me his main suspects
11:34:53 PM Mirela: were Iris, Paris, and Jenya
11:34:59 PM Paris: what day was the exile?
11:35:01 PM Paris: date?
11:35:02 PM Faith: hm. another jenya
11:35:07 PM Faith: Um may 21st?
11:35:10 PM Faith: I think..
11:35:14 PM Mirela: jason doesn't like jenya either
11:35:19 PM Paris: ok , so the chat with me jenya and ellis was the 20th
11:35:20 PM Paris: 1:38:06 PM spies6Jenya: I am not sold on Almathea as spy yet, but she is a better choice than you two in my opinion.
1:38:13 PM spies6Jenya: No, I won't vote Tiberius.
1:38:20 PM spies6Jenya: But I think we need more info from him for later.
1:38:32 PM spies6Jenya: See who he pushes today, and if that's part of a spy plan.
1:38:36 PM Paris: I do wonder what would happen if I just spearhead Tiberius for a vote in front of everyone
11:35:55 PM Paris: she indicates she would vote alma over me and ellis but she isn't sold on her as wlel. I was just under the impression that she was not looking at Alma at all
11:36:17 PM Faith: I thought you said you guys were all suspicious of jaya though
11:36:47 PM Paris: we are, this was part of the chat
11:36:51 PM Faith: ah okay
11:36:58 PM Paris: thats why i was confused when I didnt see Jenya didnt vote for Jaya
11:37:04 PM Paris: and Ellis as well
11:37:24 PM Paris: The vote for Alma totally caught me off guard because the development towards Alma happened right before the exile chat where she freaked
11:37:37 PM Paris: and I wasn't present for it so I was still basing my jaya vote on this chat i had before with Jenya and Ellis
11:37:38 PM Mirela: well that obviously points jenya in the direction of cit
11:37:57 PM Paris: because she adjusted from new information gained?
11:38:00 PM Mirela: hey guys look at the burg
11:38:01 PM Paris: the day after our chat?
11:38:09 PM Mirela: someone posted a roxy case
11:38:31 PM Paris: is roxy on our team?
11:38:46 PM Mirela: no
11:39:19 PM Faith: The roxy case has been there for a while hasn't it?
11:39:22 PM Faith: or is it a new one
11:40:06 PM Mirela: mei posted a new topic
11:40:09 PM Faith: ohh
11:40:11 PM Mirela: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=790
11:40:15 PM Faith: thankies :-)
11:40:32 PM Paris: Mei is intent in getting Roxy out lol