ep #10

[Judge Sam]

omg SO MUCH TO SAY


okay, so 1st my #1 worry is that jason/pete as the world's best citizens will soon be found suspicious for not getting exiled. especially near the end. literally no one thinks they are a spy. it's so crazy.

but, i just read a loser citizens thread where they were suspecting who would get imprisoned... and only one person said 'maybe jason' after listing five other people haha. its so crazy!

maybe being quiet is helping them. but it is bordering a bit on comparatively inactive. i see like 9/11 citizens online and no spies all the time. it's kinda lame. though it's working so *shrug*

though i think this is making them uninformed. i mean pete + amelia never knew anything anyway, for that matter neither did iris or donald. this is why their imprisonment choices are so whack from what everyone suspects. i guess when pete does get online people tell him stuff but i dont think that flow of info is as good as it should be. though there are a lot of burg posts. i'm thinking neither of them really study those carefully though lol.


case in point: jason's latest full game preview. (which i love btw how he does them all the time it's fun). but this latest one is so amazingly uninformed!!

Imprison Tiberius
Exile Gretchen
Imprison Jenya
Exile Boris
Imprison Roxy
Exile Georgia
Imprison Khaled
Exile Kirsten

Tiberius is a pretty good choice. Though a few people do suspect him I doubt he'll be Exiled.

EXILE GRETCHEN NEXT?!? lmao are you insane? I'd love to see it but seriously. Now I do get more info than people in the game but here's my current assessment:

(from levi's thread tallying up who everyone thinks the spies are): Boris, Khaled, Mirela, then Tiberius/Gretchen
(from loser's lounge): jenya/mirela
(from idiots with their team crap): khaled/mirela
crazy rambling: kirsten


Where on that list is Gretchen?!?! (yes she is on that list, but it's not serious =P) This is just crazy.

Ok, w/ Imprisoning Jenya, I guess I can see that. Regardless of the insanity the loser's lounge (namely Mei Yun) has whipped up everybody into.

Boris is an excellent Exile target. Roxy is an excellent Imprisonment choice.

This is way in the future but exile georgia? kirsten? Imprison Khaled? Oh right Jason is still under some crazy idea that there is an investigation because Jenya told him there was lmao.

Exile Mirela needs to be way up there. Khaled, maybe, Boris definitely. Honestly with Jason/Pete being the 2 most citizen-like ones in the game it flips back and forth so much who knows.


But it will definitely, eventually flip back to one of them, and they need to have done stuff before then. They can't just rest on their laurels. Maybe for one episode but not for much more.

btw i'm so glad i chose to include a trust list rather then a spy list for this stockholders thing before the game started. i thought about that a lot. i really wouldn't have wanted a list to appear with those two at #1 and #2 most Citizen-like, no matter how funny that would be after the game!


I also kinda feel kinda meh because, in reality, the spies haven't really done anything. jason pushed yvette with the urging of like 5 other people but that's pretty much it. and yes, i know there's "only" four more misexiles but if they get through those by doing nothing its kinda like... maybe it shoulda been five haha. BUT, do you know how many games the citizens have won by sucking hardcore then getting a little lucky and doing well, well, like most of them, so, don't really feel bad in that respect.


it is so insane. at the start of this game i was like 100% cits win so quick it's all over and everyone thought that. now i'm like 100% spy win!!! wtf!!!

jason and pete are really good. they could teach me a few things about mafia. yes, pete got insanely lucky episode #2 and with bussing which catapulted him to ultracit, however, he has managed it perfectly to maintain his reptuation. (perhaps too well i want to see some suspicion on the two!) amelia did pretty good on that front, yes she didn't DO anything after being suspected, but, the way she acted did allow her exile to be put off for two exiles, yes everyone thought she was a spy meanwhile, still, there was still resistance to exiling her which isn't all that bad.


do the cits have a chance? well, they are bouncing around their suspects every episode, it is bound to land on jason/pete eventually. and by then it might be too late...

[Judge Sam]

So the trust list came out, jason got 1st pete got 3rd lol. I'm a little worried cause they are so high up! I haven't heard any ramblings of 'why haven't they been imprisoned' yet but it's gotta start ramping up soon. If not now then definitely at the final 7, final 5.

I wonder if maybe keeping in other supercits would be to their benefit at this point.

It's too bad Pete is AWOL. I wonder what the reaction will be when he is revealed to be a Spy. Jason will get all the attention, praise, shock, congratulations, etc. Pete... I don't know if he'll be attacked. He might be. You can't really say he's been inactive, cause he has spent a lot of time, but he really really needs to get on AIM more. I'm conflicted on Pete. He does have the time zone thing, and he is doing fine without doing any effort, but... really should be on AIM more.


Anyway, I want to armchair quarterback the remaining eliminations here. Who should get Imprisoned for these last four Episodes? It's really tough, because NO ONE suspects jason or pete, so it's not like they need to get rid of people who suspect them! It's really all about setting up Exile targets, and keeping yourself not suspicious for not being Imprisoned.

Let's go through people:

Levi ~ 5th most trusted, only Gretchen thinks he is a spy atm. Gretchen is suspected and not trusted and is... Gretchen. Come on.

The question is... at any point can Levi be Exiled? Is he helpful? I'm not sure.

Jenya ~ 2nd most trusted, Georgia thinks she is a Spy. However, the entire Loser's Lounge thinks she is a Spy. If Mei Yun can make up 26 pieces of evidence on Jenya, I think the Spies can come up with a few. The thing is Jason can't really push it (though Jenya pushed on Jason so why not?) and Pete? Yeah fucking right. They want Jenya out, and she has a role, so it could start getting tricky so it wouldn't be a bad decision. That being said I could see her being Exiled at the final 7 or final 5.

Georgia ~ not suspected (though possibly targeted tomorrow? who knows.) and middle trusted. Would be a good Imprisonment.

Kirsten ~ hilariously wrong, suspected by Roxy, 4th trusted. This is a toughie. I don't know if she could be Exiled. At the same time she could 'solve' it all at the end if she's around and push for it pretty successfully. This wouldn't be too bad of an upcoming Imprisonment.

Roxy ~ not trusted, but everyone thinks she's a citizen. Definite Imprisonment needed. When? Doesn't really matter... maybe not the last one though.

Boris ~ Exilable and dumb.

Mirela ~ Extremely Exilable.

Khaled ~ Could be either really. Possibly could be Exiled... but would be a workable Imprisonment too. Not smart at all.

Gretchen ~ It's just a hunch, but I really don't think she can be Exiled. Very dumb but that just could lead her to voting Pete or Jason. I'm gonna go on a Imprisonment here.


And via my list:

go through Imp: Gretchen, Roxy, Levi, Georgia
go through Exile: Mirela, Boris
Either: Khaled, Kirsten, Jenya

hmm that's less exiles than I thought. I really don't think any of those Imp people will be able to build a case on them... so we've got to focus on creating situations that cases for Either come up. That means keeping around people that suspect them.

people who suspect either: Jenya, Georgia, Kirsten, Mirela, Levi, Roxy

So we've got:

Exile #10 (11 people) Mirela, let's say she goes, though I have no idea who's going.
Imp #11 Gretchen as un-Exilable
Exile #11 (9 people) Khaled
Imp #12 Roxy
Exile #12 (7 people) Kirsten
Imp #13 Georgia
Exile #13 (5 people) Jenya

leaving Pete, Jason, Boris, Levi, and Jenya.

That might work... though I made up a lot of scenarios.

[Ellis]

OK so it's 4AM and I'm STILL fucking packing. Not good.

Anyway I think it's hilarious that from the looks of things Jason was more on the ball about where the game was going than Sam was.