Who are the final two Spies? (part three)

[Judge Sam]

Who are the final two Spies?

Not much time left to guess!

[Ellis]

OK, first of all, I'm going to declare Kirsten a citizen. Not so much of her past deeds (she could have planned the Donald / Iris buses after all) but rather because her interactions with me were so natural and she's been so obviously led by people like Jenya. I don't think the spies would have imprisoned Mirela if Kirsten had actually been a spy - they haven't needed to be that obvious before and I don't see them starting now.

Second likely citizen is Pete. I just can't see him as a spy after our initial interactions. He exiled two spies in a row in the first two episodes (one of only two people who did) and his early suspicions of me, and their retraction, make him look cittish in my eyes. Frankly I don't know nearly enough about him to declare him either way, but in the absence of any kind of evidence pointing at him that I can see, I'm going with cit.

Next boy is Jason. He and Levi could very well be a spy team together. If they are, I will be pissed at Mei Yun for leading me astray, given that my remaining spy choices right after Donald's exile were: Amelia, Levi, Jason, and either Faith or Iris. I think he's trecherous but I also think he, like Kirsten, is easily led. I think he's a pawn.

The first and least certain spy I have is Jenya, for reasons already given. I think she's been the aggressive spy this whole time.

The most certain spy in my eyes is the guy who's been my top suspect since before the game even began properly, Levi. I marked him down as a likely spy because of his one-level reactions in the opening chat when it was revealed that the spies knew who they were from before the game began. I've seen nothing to change that opinion, yet people keep trying to persuade me that it's not him. (Thanks, Kirsten and Mei!) I also think that if Jenya IS a spy, she'd openly accuse her partner at this stage to confuse the issue. She's accused both Kirsten and Levi. In the "Levi calling out" thread, Faith was aggressive, Iris wasn't. Mirela was aggressive, Amelia wasn't. Donald gave Levi a loaded question that was practically an invitation to make himself look like a cit, Kirsten kept badgering him. Etc, etc, etc. I could go on.

So my picks are Jenya and Levi.

Other likely choices, in order of likelihood:

Levi and Jason
Jenya and Kirsten
Levi and Pete
Levi and Kirsten
Jason and Kirsten
Pete and Kirsten

I can't see it being any other combination right now.

[Mei Yun]

I think its Levi. Ugh.

[Ellis]

Jul 25, 2009 17:32:49 GMT -5 Mei Yun said:

I think its Levi. Ugh.

Why "Ugh"? What's wrong with Levi being a spy?

I spent pretty much my entire game after Paris got exiled trying to get Levi out, apart from one small half-hour where I tried (and succeeded) in getting Donald out! I could never get the support. Doesn't mean it won't be satisfying if I was right all along.

[Ellis]

Also, I'm kinda surprised that Kirsten wasn't imprisoned in episode five, if she was a citizen. She was the "public" face of the Donald exile. Mind you, I've always suspected that Ed was picked by the future people, not the actual spies, so that one might be explainable.

[Mei Yun]

Jul 25, 2009 18:21:40 GMT -5 Ellis said:

Jul 25, 2009 17:32:49 GMT -5 Mei Yun said:

I think its Levi. Ugh.

Why "Ugh"? I spent pretty much my entire game after Paris got exiled trying to get Levi out, apart from one small half-hour where I tried (and succeeded) in getting Donald out! I could never get the support. Doesn't mean it won't be satisfying if I was right all along.

And you think the most minuscule comments concern YOUR actions in the game? Talk about too much of an ego!

[Ellis]

Jul 25, 2009 18:33:36 GMT -5 Mei Yun said:

Jul 25, 2009 18:21:40 GMT -5 Ellis said:

Why "Ugh"? I spent pretty much my entire game after Paris got exiled trying to get Levi out, apart from one small half-hour where I tried (and succeeded) in getting Donald out! I could never get the support. Doesn't mean it won't be satisfying if I was right all along.

And you think the most minuscule comments concern YOUR actions in the game? Talk about too much of an ego!

Nope, but it comes across that way, doesn't it? Corrected.

Also, the question, however badly phrased, stands: why "ugh"?

[Mei Yun]

It means that he 'could' have taken the Tootsie Role comment seriously which is a very stupid move on my part and I will forever hate myself.

[Ellis]

Jul 25, 2009 18:53:26 GMT -5 Mei Yun said:

It means that he 'could' have taken the Tootsie Role comment seriously which is a very stupid move on my part and I will forever hate myself.

Zowchies.

[Faith]

I only voted one person LOL. Whoops.

I'm going with Jenya and Levi now. Levi only because I just don't want to have voted a citizen every round. It'll make me feel better about myself. >_>

[Ariel]

I highly doubt it's Levi. Since it wasn't Mirela, my picks are Jenya and Kirsten - I find it awfully fishy that I was imprisoned right after mentioning Jenya as a possible spy to Kirsten.

[Boris]

I don't think it's Levi AND Jenya. I was watching the spies6 room at imprisonment, and unless those two are really good actors (no one else was really there at the time) then the conversation I witnessed was not a conversation two scum have with each other.

[Ellis]

Jul 25, 2009 21:09:15 GMT -5 Boris said:

I don't think it's Levi AND Jenya. I was watching the spies6 room at imprisonment, and unless those two are really good actors (no one else was really there at the time) then the conversation I witnessed was not a conversation two scum have with each other.

You don't have a transcript, do you?

[Gabriela]

im going with jenya (duh) and levi. and giving Levi the "how in the name of jebus have you not been exiled already?!" award

[Boris]

8:03:10 PM spies6jenya: Anyone here?
8:03:33 PM spies5cath: no
8:03:36 PM spies6jenya: :-)
8:03:39 PM spies6levi: I'm here
8:03:59 PM bhangrajay: I'm not here either.
8:04:08 PM CPO0408: nor me
8:04:53 PM bhangrajay: Hah. There's more viewers not here than players not here. ;o
8:05:17 PM spies6levi: When Kirsten announced that she wanted the union to go on strike, the silence in the room was striking.
8:05:21 PM spies6levi: So punny
8:05:26 PM Charles Woodard: not really here
8:05:59 PM spies6levi: So Jenya
8:06:02 PM spies6levi: Did you post that chat?
8:06:13 PM spies6jenya: I didn't have time.
8:10:14 PM spies6levi: Well Jenya
8:10:24 PM spies6levi: I appreciate the work that went into the posts
8:10:35 PM spies6levi: Even though you just helped out the final 2 Spies a ton
8:10:47 PM spies6jenya: I did my best.
8:11:06 PM spies6jenya: So you know I'm going, eh?
8:11:17 PM spies6levi: No
8:11:20 PM spies6levi: I don't
8:11:21 PM spies6jenya: Sounds like it.
8:11:25 PM spies6levi: I asked you to take the game seriously
8:11:27 PM spies6levi: And you did so
8:11:30 PM spies6levi: You quit joking around
8:11:31 PM spies6jenya: Too bad there's not another Cit in the room to see that.
8:11:48 PM spies6levi: Now your twisting everything I say to frame me
8:11:59 PM spies6jenya: You guys can say anything you want with impunity.
8:12:07 PM spies6jenya: It's just you and me here.
8:12:11 PM spies6levi: Fine
8:12:13 PM spies6levi: I'm not a Spy
8:14:56 PM spies6jenya: Hi Sam, hurry it up. :-)
8:15:04 PM spies6jenya: It's a nice story, what happens next?
8:15:07 PM spies6levi: Lol
8:15:29 PM spies6levi: Apparently Cy didn't like it
8:15:41 PM spies6levi: Or maybe he still holds a grudge from his wrong chatbox incident
8:15:46 PM spies6levi: Just kidding, lol
8:16:53 PM spies6jenya: Hi Mirela.
8:17:03 PM spies6levi: Hey Mirela
8:17:07 PM spies6mirela: hello
8:17:40 PM spies6mirela: so this is my last hurrah
8:17:51 PM spies6levi: Wow Mirela . . . you laid that on really thick
8:17:58 PM spies6levi: I make you sick to your stomach?
8:18:14 PM spies6mirela: what are you talking about?
8:18:29 PM spies6levi: Your post in the Burg
8:18:51 PM spies6mirela: oh yeah
8:19:22 PM spies6levi: You know . . . if that was your real reaction to me, I bet you'd remember it a lot easier
8:20:14 PM spies6levi: Mirela, I've got a question for you
8:20:39 PM spies6levi: What caused the change from myself to Kirsten? At this point in the game you should have a valid reason for every suspicion and every vote
8:20:50 PM spies6levi: I'm interested in hearing it
8:21:16 PM spies6jenya: Don't exile Mirela for anything she's said today.
8:21:23 PM spies6mirela: leave me alone i'm about to be imprisoned
8:21:23 PM spies6jenya: I think it was an act for whatever reason.
8:21:34 PM spies6levi: Fine
8:21:40 PM spies6levi: If your still here after Imprisonment
8:21:43 PM spies6levi: Will you answer my question?
8:21:49 PM spies6mirela: if i feel like it
8:21:50 PM spies6mirela: scum
8:22:03 PM spies6levi: (note that I am ignoring Jenya, as there is no reason for Mirela to put up an act at this point in teh game)
8:22:13 PM spies6levi: (and Jenya has her blinders on)
8:22:15 PM spies6jenya: If she's a Cit, she didn't want to be imprisoned.
8:22:37 PM Sorin the Seeker: penultimate post up
8:22:39 PM spies6levi: So she acts dumb all game?
8:22:41 PM spies6jenya: What matters are her suspicions AFTER Imprisonment.
8:22:46 PM spies6levi: Why are you trying to help her out?
8:22:56 PM spies6levi: Her suspicions at every point in the game matter
8:22:57 PM spies6jenya: I'm just going with my gut.
8:23:04 PM spies6levi: Everyone is accountable for everything they do
8:23:04 PM spies6jenya: OMG
8:23:07 PM spies6mirela: it's over
8:23:08 PM spies6jenya: Are you kidding me
8:23:16 PM spies6levi: WTF
8:23:19 PM spies6mirela: for me at least
8:23:34 PM spies6jenya: I was really looking forward to being done with this.
8:23:52 PM spies6levi: Now I actually want it to be me who goes
8:23:56 PM spies6mirela: i'm dead i'm dead i'm dead
8:23:58 PM spies6levi: Not because I don't like the game, I love it
8:24:09 PM spies6jenya: Same here but I'm exhausted.
8:24:18 PM spies6levi: But having to deal with both of you two breathing down my neck this week
8:24:18 PM spies6jenya: I can't keep this up.
8:24:29 PM spies6mirela: not really levi
8:24:30 PM spies6levi: Would be the hardest episode ever
8:24:33 PM spies6mirela: because i'm toast
8:24:42 PM spies6jenya: I'm submitting my Imprisonment protect now for #14.
8:24:50 PM spies6jenya: Protect: Jenya for the first and only time in the game.
8:25:06 PM spies6jenya: And if we hit a Spy this time I'll have to choose AGAIN.
8:25:30 PM spies6jenya: I have to go on vacation Tuesday.
8:25:31 PM spies6mirela: i'm like minutes away from being killed
8:25:40 PM spies6jenya: This is going to be impossible.
8:26:40 PM spies6levi: The suspense is killing me
8:26:49 PM spies6mirela: ugh so close to death
8:27:11 PM spies6mirela: i can see a white light...
8:27:21 PM spies6levi: LOL
8:27:50 PM spies6mirela: it's calling to me....
8:28:11 PM spies6levi: If you get Imprisoned Mirela
8:28:15 PM spies6levi: I'm freaking screwed
8:28:23 PM spies6mirela: why do you say that
8:28:24 PM spies6levi: And so are the other two cits
8:28:36 PM spies6levi: Your my top Spy pick
8:28:38 PM spies6mirela: =P
8:28:45 PM spies6jenya: I'm going to go reread my role PM.
8:28:47 PM spies6mirela: well you won't have to worry about that once i've been killed
8:28:51 PM spies6jenya: Maybe I'm a spy and I read it wrong.
8:28:56 PM spies6levi: OMG JENYA LIED
8:29:00 PM spies6levi: We didn't get role PMs
8:29:05 PM spies6levi: We got role posts in our confessional
8:29:09 PM spies6levi: Vote: Jenya
8:29:12 PM spies6jenya: LOL
8:29:15 PM spies6jenya: Nice try.
8:29:16 PM spies6levi: lol, jk
8:29:33 PM spies6mirela: omg my stomach hurts i'm about to throw up
8:29:37 PM spies6mirela: can i just die already?
8:29:49 PM spies6levi: Sam
8:29:51 PM spies6levi: The suspense
8:29:53 PM spies6levi: Is killing me
8:29:59 PM spies6jenya: I feel it too, and I'm safe.
8:30:00 PM spies6levi: I have no idea who's going, at all
8:30:01 PM spies6mirela: i want to diiiiiiiiiiieeeee

[Boris]

8:31:45 PM spies6mirela: what are you saying? what's going on??
8:31:48 PM spies6jenya: Sam says it's going to cause an earthquake.
8:31:55 PM spies6levi: No, it might be me
8:32:03 PM spies6jenya: That would be a relief. :-)
8:32:03 PM spies6levi: That would be the most shocking imprisonment, I believe
8:32:04 PM spies6mirela: yeah right
8:32:05 PM Sorin the Seeker: 30 seconds.
8:32:11 PM spies6mirela: death here i come
8:32:34 PM spies6levi: Oh man
8:32:35 PM spies6levi: Oh man
8:32:39 PM spies6levi: This is so stressful
8:32:47 PM spies6jenya: Mirela :-(
8:32:54 PM spies6mirela: like i said
8:32:55 PM spies6jenya: Bye sweetie, you did great.
8:32:58 PM spies6jenya: Much <3
8:33:03 PM spies6levi: Mirela
8:33:05 PM spies6mirela: good bye everyone! <3 much love!
8:33:05 PM spies6levi: I'll miss you
8:33:10 PM spies6levi: How were you not a Spy? Seriously?
8:33:12 PM spies6jenya: See you afterwards.
8:33:21 PM spies6levi: But, see you in two days
8:33:25 PM spies6levi: Jenya's gonna get me misexiled
8:33:41 PM spies6jenya: That's not too surprising actually.
8:33:50 PM spies6jenya: Considering I pretty much telegraphed an exile protect of her.
8:33:53 PM spies6levi: My suspect got Imprisoned
8:33:59 PM spies6jenya: Yes, just like Ed.
8:34:09 PM spies6jenya: So you are clear!
8:34:13 PM spies6levi: Yea right
8:34:16 PM spies6levi: You and I both know
8:34:20 PM spies6jenya: Suspecting people who are about to die is something only Cits would do!
8:34:22 PM spies6levi: That you won't listen to a word I say
8:34:32 PM spies6jenya: I'm going to listen to Jason and Pete.
8:34:41 PM spies6jenya: And if they agree on anything, I'm joining them.
8:34:41 PM spies6levi: I just have to make sure I vote for a Spy
8:34:43 PM Sorin the Seeker: And the top five trusted players of Episode #10 remain.
8:34:49 PM spies6jenya: Hi Sam. ;-)
8:34:53 PM spies6levi: And have two more votes to back me up
8:34:54 PM spies6jenya: That was a great story!
8:35:00 PM spies6levi: We're the top five trusted?
8:35:01 PM spies6levi: Wow
8:35:20 PM Sorin the Seeker: thank you <3
8:35:26 PM spies6levi: So
8:35:31 PM spies6levi: There was only 1 Spy
8:35:34 PM spies6levi: On Team Stronghold
8:35:36 PM spies6jenya: Hi everyone who's watching. :-)
8:35:50 PM spies6jenya: Yes, only one.
8:35:55 PM spies6levi: Would there really be five Spies on Team Clusterfuck?
8:35:58 PM spies6jenya: No.
8:36:02 PM spies6jenya: Four, mmaybe.
8:36:20 PM spies6levi: Now I'm stuck
8:36:25 PM spies6levi: In a horrible position
8:36:26 PM spies6jenya: I'll go update the Spypairs thread.
8:36:30 PM spies6jenya: Then throw up.
8:36:35 PM spies6jenya: Then think about this.
8:36:44 PM spies6levi: 11 possible Spypairs left
8:36:53 PM spies6jenya: Levi, question.
8:36:57 PM spies6jenya: Do you think I'm a spy?
8:37:07 PM spies6levi: You didn't get Imprisoned
8:37:08 PM spies6jenya: You keep pretending you do.
8:37:10 PM spies6levi: It would have made
8:37:13 PM spies6jenya: And it's not very convincing.
8:37:13 PM spies6levi: Perfect sense
8:37:15 PM spies6levi: To Imprison you
8:37:17 PM Sorin the Seeker: hmm.. .all the remaining spies first names start with J,K,L,M,or P... all right together alphabetically... what are the odds!
8:37:18 PM spies6levi: Before now, I didn't
8:37:21 PM spies6jenya: Yes it would have! (tm)
8:37:29 PM spies6jenya: LOL Sam.
8:37:30 PM spies6levi: LOL Sa,
8:37:32 PM spies6levi: *Sam
8:37:40 PM spies6jenya: Sam, are you enjoying this game?
8:37:43 PM spies6jenya: Do you have any requests?
8:37:46 PM spies6levi: Wait
8:37:53 PM spies6levi: Who's the M?
8:37:57 PM spies6jenya: We could do a puppet show.
8:38:07 PM spies6jenya: JJKLP remain.
8:38:14 PM Sorin the Seeker: if you did a puppet show you'd be fulfilling the future vision! :-)
8:38:26 PM spies6jenya: Ooh!
8:38:26 PM spies6levi: What a coincidence
8:38:33 PM spies6jenya: You're doing a puppet show at the Finale?
8:38:37 PM spies6levi: I happen to have puppets for every player in the game made
8:38:42 PM spies6jenya: Wow, Levi.
8:38:46 PM spies6jenya: You need to get out more.
8:38:47 PM spies6levi: And their right here with me
8:38:49 PM Sorin the Seeker: hot
8:38:53 PM spies6levi: ROFL
8:39:11 PM spies6jenya: I'm too drained to spyhunt right now.
8:39:16 PM spies6jenya: I'm not even sure I want to.
8:39:23 PM spies6levi: I HAVE to Spyhunt right now
8:39:27 PM spies6jenya: I just want to leave my vote on you and take the weekend off.
8:39:29 PM spies6levi: Two of you Four are Spies
8:39:57 PM spies6jenya: I love that Mirela was Imprisoned.
8:40:03 PM spies6jenya: She did so great.
8:40:12 PM spies6jenya: I knew knew knew she was just a weird Cit.
8:40:21 PM spies6levi: How can you sit there and say she did great?
8:40:32 PM spies6levi: She had some of the worst logic I've ever seen
8:40:36 PM spies6jenya: First, she replaced in.
8:40:40 PM spies6jenya: Major props for that.
8:40:43 PM spies6levi: I'm sorry, she was fun, but she wasn't a good Spyhunter
8:40:44 PM spies6jenya: She got up to speed fast.
8:40:51 PM spies6jenya: She always tried hard.
8:40:52 PM spies6levi: I'll give her that
8:40:55 PM spies6levi: About the replacing in
8:40:56 PM spies6jenya: She posted a lot and chatted a lot.
8:41:00 PM spies6levi: And being active
8:41:04 PM spies6jenya: And she was hilarious when she wasn't being a bitch.
8:41:18 PM spies6jenya: She was totally unique. I'll miss her.
8:41:20 PM spies6levi: She was more bitch to me than fun
8:41:27 PM Sorin the Seeker: massive Mirela love <3 <3 <3
8:41:31 PM spies6jenya: Yeah!
8:41:33 PM spies6levi: Regretting your Imprisonment choice Jenya?
8:41:38 PM spies6jenya: LOL
8:41:39 PM spies6levi: But yes <3 Mirela anyway
8:41:44 PM CPO0408: Mirela <333333333
8:41:45 PM spies6jenya: Levi, give it a rest.
8:41:51 PM spies6jenya: We both know I'm not a spy.
8:42:02 PM spies6levi: No I don't know that Jenya
8:42:13 PM spies6levi: Two of four people
8:42:17 PM spies6levi: Who I've pretty much trusted
8:42:19 PM spies6levi: Are Spies
8:42:33 PM spies6jenya: Last imprisonment made less sense to me.
8:42:44 PM spies6jenya: Who'd you think would be taken last time?
8:42:59 PM spies6levi: Last time?
8:43:06 PM spies6jenya: And Levi, you trust everyone until it's time to exile them.
8:43:08 PM spies6levi: Jason
8:43:11 PM spies6jenya: That's what Spies do.
8:43:14 PM spies6levi: Jenya
8:43:19 PM spies6levi: I never trusted Boris
8:43:22 PM spies6levi: I never trusted Gretchen
8:43:34 PM spies6levi: I never trusted most of the people we've Exiled
8:43:38 PM spies6jenya: Are you suspicious of Jason for still being around?
8:43:46 PM spies6levi: Yes
8:43:58 PM spies6jenya: And Pete for being gone?
8:44:09 PM spies6jenya: And you're not suspicious of Kirsten.
8:44:12 PM spies6levi: I'm not suspicious of Pete for being gone
8:44:13 PM spies6jenya: At all.
8:44:19 PM spies6levi: Jenya not any more
8:44:25 PM spies6levi: I know your gonna go run off and post that
8:44:28 PM spies6jenya: 100% chance Kirsten = Cit?
8:44:34 PM spies6levi: Not any more
8:44:39 PM spies6levi: I know your gonna go run off and post that
8:44:44 PM spies6levi: But if she is a Cit
8:44:45 PM spies6jenya: Naw, my fingers are tired.
8:44:50 PM spies6levi: There were 5 Spies on your team
8:44:54 PM spies6jenya: What team?
8:45:05 PM spies6levi: Team Cluster
8:45:14 PM spies6jenya: Oh.
8:45:15 PM spies6jenya: Right.
8:45:18 PM spies6jenya: hahahaha
8:45:20 PM spies6levi: How did you not know
8:45:21 PM spies6jenya: Because you're not a spy.;
8:45:24 PM spies6levi: What team I was thinking of
8:45:37 PM spies6jenya: Because I didn't see your logic because you're a spy.
8:45:47 PM spies6jenya: But now that I factor in that you're a "cit" it makes sense.
8:46:00 PM spies6jenya: OK so yeah Levi.
8:46:00 PM spies6levi: I bet you've already voted me in your confessional
8:46:03 PM spies6jenya: I have!
8:46:24 PM spies6levi: Jenya . . . if you're not a Spy
8:46:26 PM spies6levi: You are pulling
8:46:30 PM spies6levi: The dumbest move of the game
8:46:33 PM spies6levi: Do you remember
8:46:45 PM spies6levi: All the people you Exiled?
8:46:53 PM spies6levi: Yvette, Rey, Khaled, Gretchen
8:46:57 PM spies6levi: What do they all have in common?
8:47:01 PM spies6jenya: Yes, those were the four Cits I exiled.
8:47:07 PM spies6jenya: What?
8:47:11 PM spies6jenya: Wait
8:47:12 PM spies6levi: They were cits
8:47:13 PM spies6jenya: Let me guess.
8:47:26 PM spies6jenya: They all used a sex toy on Thor?
8:47:36 PM spies6levi: Sure
8:47:37 PM spies6levi: That
8:47:39 PM spies6levi: Whatever
8:47:46 PM spies6levi: But they all used the sex toy in a protown way
8:47:54 PM spies6jenya: Ok so actually Levi
8:47:56 PM spies6jenya: A moment of seriousness here.
8:48:02 PM spies6levi: I
8:48:02 PM spies6jenya: If you are really a Cit
8:48:05 PM spies6levi: Have been serious
8:48:06 PM spies6levi: All night
8:48:10 PM spies6jenya: You should vote Kirsten right now.
8:48:16 PM spies6jenya: And leave your vote there.
8:48:21 PM spies6jenya: Because
8:48:38 PM spies6jenya: There's no freaking way there were 5 spies in Clusterfuck.
8:48:43 PM spies6jenya: We exiled a spy day one.
8:49:02 PM spies6jenya: You'd think they would have found a better alternative.
8:49:09 PM spies6jenya: Joc wasnt even there
8:49:17 PM spies6jenya: So it was 5 out of 10 players?
8:49:19 PM spies6jenya: Spies?
8:49:24 PM spies6jenya: And exiled a Spy?
8:49:26 PM spies6jenya: No way.
8:49:36 PM spies6jenya: You and Kirsten should be voting each other IMMEDIATELY.
8:49:40 PM spies6jenya: But you've cleared her.
8:49:50 PM spies6levi: I give up
8:49:51 PM spies6jenya: Which only leaves us with one alternative.
8:49:55 PM spies6levi: You've put me in a lose-lose situation
8:50:00 PM spies6jenya: I know.
8:50:02 PM spies6levi: Either I vote one of you three and get Exiled
8:50:06 PM spies6levi: Or I vote Kirsten and get Exiled for that
8:50:10 PM spies6levi: Either way
8:50:12 PM spies6levi: Spies win
8:50:18 PM spies6jenya: Wait.
8:50:23 PM spies6levi: So Vote Kirsten
8:50:27 PM spies6levi: And I'll wait for the finale
8:50:30 PM spies6jenya: So you're more positive that Kirsten is a Cit
8:50:53 PM spies6jenya: Than you are that 5 spies wouldn't exile a Spy first round?
8:51:25 PM spies6levi: Jenya
8:51:26 PM spies6levi: I give up
8:51:30 PM spies6levi: The only thing I'm positive on
8:51:33 PM spies6jenya: That's a good idea.
8:51:34 PM spies6levi: Is that I'm going to get misexiled
8:51:35 PM spies6levi: And the Spies
8:51:37 PM spies6levi: Are going to win
8:51:40 PM spies6jenya: Ok.
8:51:49 PM spies6levi: Vote: Kirsten
8:51:59 PM spies6jenya: Why's Jason still alive?
8:52:09 PM spies6levi: One of you two is a Spy
8:52:11 PM spies6jenya: He should have been taken each of the last two exiles.
8:52:17 PM spies6levi: You both have roles
8:52:25 PM spies6jenya: Imprisonments.
8:52:27 PM spies6levi: The Active Shield thing again
8:52:37 PM spies6levi: I was using the right theory
8:52:40 PM spies6levi: On the wrong two people
8:52:55 PM spies6jenya: It's probably you-Pete
8:52:59 PM spies6jenya: or you-Jason.
8:53:02 PM spies6jenya: Not you-Kirsten.
8:53:04 PM spies6levi: I am not
8:53:08 PM spies6levi: A freaking Spy
8:53:13 PM spies6jenya: If Pete's a spy, I give up.
8:53:18 PM spies6jenya: When's he get back?
8:53:21 PM spies6levi: Tomorrow
8:53:25 PM spies6jenya: Did he post his itinerary in Spy HQ?
8:53:29 PM spies6levi: No
8:53:31 PM spies6levi: The away thread
8:53:47 PM spies6jenya: Can I make a suggestion?
8:53:50 PM spies6levi: What?
8:53:57 PM spies6jenya: Those little times when you pretend to suspect me?
8:54:01 PM spies6jenya: Those aren't working.
8:54:07 PM spies6jenya: You can drop that part of the routine.
8:54:09 PM spies6levi: I'VE NEVER PRETENDED TO SUSPECT ANYONE
8:54:17 PM spies6levi: I
8:54:19 PM spies6levi: AM
8:54:20 PM spies6levi: A
8:54:23 PM spies6levi: CITIZEN
8:54:30 PM spies6levi: EVERYTHING I HAVE DONE IN THIS GAME
8:54:33 PM spies6jenya: I know, I was just messin with ya.
8:54:35 PM spies6levi: HAS BEEN COMPLETELY GENUINE
8:54:40 PM spies6levi: YOU ARE TOO BLIND TO SEE IT
8:54:43 PM spies6jenya: I actually think it's Kirsten-Jason.
8:54:44 PM spies6levi: BYE
8:54:47 PM spies6levi: I"M DONE WITH THIS
8:54:52 PM spies6jenya: Bye.
8:54:55 PM spies6jenya: LOL
8:55:16 PM spies6jenya: Hmm.
8:55:32 PM spies6jenya: Sam, I don't know if you answered my question.
8:55:37 PM spies6jenya: Are you enjoying this game?
8:55:54 PM spies6jenya: Freaking lurker. :-)
8:56:05 PM spies6jenya: I'll be back later.
8:58:44 PM Sorin the Seeker: :-D

[Boris]

Either they were doing that for our benefit, or I don't know what.

[Gretchen]

Levi and Jason I say, I say, I say.

[Rey]

I know Jenya is a spy. Levi is the scummiest out of the other players. That's my pick.

[Mei Yun]

Well, Levi could be the last spy. At this point, he doesn't seem to be Jenya's endgame scapegoat as I initially suspected.

[Georgia]

A few funny things I saw...


8:22:41 PM spies6jenya: What matters are her suspicions AFTER Imprisonment

8:39:57 PM spies6jenya: I love that Mirela was Imprisoned.
8:40:03 PM spies6jenya: She did so great.
8:40:12 PM spies6jenya: I knew knew knew she was just a weird Cit.

8:54:43 PM spies6jenya: I actually think it's Kirsten-Jason.


8:48:38 PM spies6jenya: There's no freaking way there were 5 spies in Clusterfuck.
8:48:43 PM spies6jenya: We exiled a spy day one.
8:49:02 PM spies6jenya: You'd think they would have found a better alternative.
8:49:09 PM spies6jenya: Joc wasnt even there
8:49:17 PM spies6jenya: So it was 5 out of 10 players?
8:49:19 PM spies6jenya: Spies?
8:49:24 PM spies6jenya: And exiled a Spy?
8:49:26 PM spies6jenya: No way.
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A dead citizen = omnipotent?

How did Mirela do great?
You knew knew knew she was a weird cit, but you had lost faith in her?
you think it is Kirsten-Jason, uhm. I could've sworn you told me you thought it was Kirsten-Levi.


If Jenya by some miracle of someone's god ends up citizen.
Can we please please please award her and Mirela some kind of duo-award? And indeirectly Kirsten if she ends up citizen?


I don't claim in anyway that the rest of use were stellar.
But, come the fuck on.

Hiding your suspicions on another player, and creating a secret bandwagon against them.
Essentially protecting someone you "knew" was a spy for three episodes.
- That is just about the most fail logic I've seen all game. And a lot of people went along with it, and didn't seem to see this epicly failness.
- That somehow makes you citizen?

Switching your suspects all over the place - makes you a citizen?

You "trust" these people because they can keep secrets or whatever excuse - yet these same people were responsible for outing roles all over the place.

Running "tests" on people, and essentially ignoring the results because it wasn't your desired outcome.. o.O

Lying everywhere, and twisting just about everything.


All of this equals a great citizen?
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Who started the thing on Almathea? Citizen or Spy?
Didn't Jenya warn Almathea, then Almathea freaked out?

If someone makes themselves that obvious... how could you NOT bus them?

[Ariel]

"As for my voting record... I'm not really sure what you mean... I have one of the better records in the Burg if you look at Jenya's post comparing Spy/Cit votes for everyone in the game. No, it's not perfect, but nobody's is." - Jason

I beg to differ. Gabby has a perfect record. >>

[Faith]

Jul 26, 2009 2:11:18 GMT -5 Ariel said:

"As for my voting record... I'm not really sure what you mean... I have one of the better records in the Burg if you look at Jenya's post comparing Spy/Cit votes for everyone in the game. No, it's not perfect, but nobody's is." - Jason

I beg to differ. Gabby has a perfect record. >>

So does Paris if I'm not mistaken.

[Ellis]

Jul 26, 2009 2:23:50 GMT -5 Faith said:

Jul 26, 2009 2:11:18 GMT -5 Ariel said:

"As for my voting record... I'm not really sure what you mean... I have one of the better records in the Burg if you look at Jenya's post comparing Spy/Cit votes for everyone in the game. No, it's not perfect, but nobody's is." - Jason

I beg to differ. Gabby has a perfect record. >>

So does Paris if I'm not mistaken.

So would I if we'd just MOTHERFUCKING EXILED FUCKING LEVI IN EPISODE FUCKING THREE LIKE I SAID WE FUCKING SHOULD!!!!

DAMN YOU KIRSTEN!!!!!!

[Boris]

You know what I forgot about?

Kirsten basically clearing Amelia with the whole Immunity thing later, when she told her about getting an extension. We all wondered how she would have known about it. I'm wondering if it was just because Kirsten was also a spy.

[Boris]

Basically I am less and less convinced that Jenya is the last spy.

[Thor]

I think it's Jenya/Kirsten personally. I almost switched one of them with Jason though. I remember a chat posted of Jenya/Jason about how Ellis was the real Protector that seemed fake. Maybe it was just the massive amount of lie.

[Ellis]

Jul 26, 2009 9:40:07 GMT -5 Thor said:

I think it's Jenya/Kirsten personally. I almost switched one of them with Jason though. I remember a chat posted of Jenya/Jason about how Ellis was the real Protector that seemed fake. Maybe it was just the massive amount of lie.

It could definitely be Jenya / Kirsten. I'm STILL left wondering how the hell Levi could possibly be innocent though.

If Kirsten's a spy, she's the best ever; and she's probably about to win the game.

[Rey]

It's Jenya + Levi ! That's my best guess.

[Ellis]

Jul 26, 2009 12:59:33 GMT -5 Rey said:

It's Jenya + Levi ! That's my best guess.

That's my top combination too. I think most people are thinking that way (apart from Ariel, who's going to look extremely good or extremely stubborn, depending on how this goes!)