Exile #8: Consensus Decision Making Transcript

[Judge Sam]

spies6Georgia (7:19:47 PM): Maybe give someone else the job of Questioner?
spies6Kirsten (7:19:49 PM): Levi, if you want you can make a proposal to pass on thine question asking-ness if you don't feel up to it
spies6Boris (7:19:53 PM): you're trying to sabatoge us I KNEW IT
spies6levi (7:19:58 PM): Wait
spies6levi (7:20:01 PM): We'll see how it goes
spies6Kirsten (7:20:04 PM): ok\
spies6rey (7:20:36 PM): woah woah woah!
spies6Boris (7:20:39 PM): i propose we just vote for someone right away so as not to drag this on
spies6rey (7:20:41 PM):
spies6Ariel (7:20:45 PM): BLOCK.
spies6levi (7:20:46 PM): Wow
spies6Georgia (7:20:48 PM): Ruh Roh. Hopefully it doesn't turn out there are more viewers than Spies6 players.
spies6levi (7:20:53 PM): Lots of viewers
spies6gretchen2 (7:21:01 PM): lmao Georgia
spies6Ariel (7:21:20 PM): Jason, I hope your screenname doesn't make Gretchen hungry.
spies6Ariel (7:21:25 PM): sPIEs6Jason.
sPIEs6Jason (7:21:30 PM): Thats my evil Spy plan to distract her
spies6rey (7:21:35 PM): o.O
spies6gretchen2 (7:21:36 PM): 6/8 in our favour
spies6Georgia (7:21:57 PM): Sam doesn't count as a Viewer.
spies6gretchen2 (7:21:59 PM): i am over the fat jokes
spies6rey (7:22:04 PM): !
spies6gretchen2 (7:22:08 PM): no more jolly fat gretchen
spies6gretchen2 (7:22:13 PM): it's just gretchen
spies6Boris (7:22:14 PM): i'm just getting started
spies6rey (7:22:17 PM): no way..
spies6Ariel (7:22:17 PM): You're going to disappoint Casey.
spies6Boris (7:22:18 PM): fatty fatty fat fat
spies6rey (7:22:25 PM): yeah, there is no way you can change.
Spies Viewer (7:22:29 PM) has entered the room.
spies6levi (7:22:29 PM): Come on Gretchen
spies6gretchen2 (7:22:31 PM): casey understands
spies6Ariel (7:22:33 PM): HI REY!
spies6levi (7:22:34 PM): Jolly and Fat just go togehter
spies6Kirsten (7:22:36 PM): it's now angry, plump Gretchen
spies6rey (7:22:37 PM): LOL
spies6levi (7:22:38 PM): You can't say one without the other
Sorin the Seeker (7:22:41 PM): please don't talk to the viewers thanks
spies6levi (7:22:50 PM): But it's Rey, he's also a participant
spies6levi (7:22:53 PM):
spies6Ariel (7:22:54 PM): A) The meeting hasn't started, and B) That's Rey
spies6jenya (7:22:55 PM) has been invited.
spies6Ariel (7:22:56 PM):
spies6gretchen2 (7:22:57 PM): i can change rey
spies6rey (7:23:01 PM): no!
spies6rey (7:23:03 PM): hmph.
spies6rey (7:23:05 PM): </3
spies6Boris (7:23:06 PM): proposal: let the viewers vote us out
spies6Ariel (7:23:13 PM): BLOCK
Sorin the Seeker (7:23:14 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (7:23:14 PM): I suppotr that proposal
spies6levi (7:23:17 PM): BLCOK
spies6levi (7:23:20 PM): *BLOCK
spies6gretchen2 (7:23:21 PM): i third it
spies6Boris (7:23:24 PM): fuck
sPIEs6Jason (7:23:24 PM): The viewers probably hate me like everyone else -_-
spies6Georgia (7:23:24 PM): Block
spies6Kirsten (7:23:25 PM): take it to a vote!
spies6gretchen2 (7:23:25 PM): see ya ariel
Sorin the Seeker (7:23:29 PM): the meeting hasn't started yet =)
spies6rey (7:23:31 PM): it's blocked. >/<
spies6Boris (7:23:33 PM): we know
spies6Kirsten (7:23:33 PM): urgh, that's 3 blocks
spies6Ariel (7:23:36 PM):
spies6Ariel (7:23:44 PM): Motion denied.
spies6jenya (7:23:48 PM) has entered the room.
spies6gretchen2 (7:23:48 PM): le sigh
spies6Ariel (7:23:55 PM): Jenya's here?!
spies6rey (7:23:56 PM): jenya is here. o.O
Sorin the Seeker (7:23:58 PM): hey jenya!
spies6levi (7:24:05 PM): Jenya!
spies6gretchen2 (7:24:10 PM): how long until we start sam?
spies6Boris (7:24:15 PM): proposal: give sam 15 minute probation
spies6levi (7:24:16 PM): My clock says six minutes
spies6rey (7:24:16 PM): 5 minutes!
spies6Ariel (7:24:19 PM): I am so disappointed, I hoped to push through several Spy-beneficial proposals... but now I can't
spies6rey (7:24:22 PM): mine says five, haha.
spies6jenya (7:24:25 PM): Hello.
spies6gretchen2 (7:24:27 PM): awesome. brb.
sPIEs6Jason (7:24:33 PM): 6 for me
spies6levi (7:24:37 PM): SInce I'm questioner
spies6levi (7:24:39 PM): I have a question
spies6Ariel (7:24:40 PM): Six for me as well.
spies6rey (7:24:40 PM): four for me now.
spies6Georgia (7:24:42 PM): Aren't there still a few missing persons.
spies6rey (7:24:51 PM): levi, i think you have to ask in private...
spies6levi (7:24:52 PM): Are there going to be proposals that effect the game, but don't have to do with Exile?
spies6Georgia (7:24:55 PM): 5 min 7 sec
spies6Georgia (7:24:57 PM): was
sPIEs6Jason (7:24:59 PM): As Emopath I feel that we must give the missing people a chance to show first
spies6levi (7:25:01 PM): (it's an open question thing)
spies6Kirsten (7:25:05 PM): Proposal: we exile 4 people tonight
spies6levi (7:25:06 PM): ROFL EMOPATH
spies6Boris (7:25:10 PM): yes
spies6rey (7:25:13 PM): yupp.
spies6Boris (7:25:23 PM): vote yes
spies6Kirsten (7:25:25 PM): that's two yesses
spies6levi (7:25:26 PM): Do Rey and Spies Viewer count as one or two people?
Sorin the Seeker (7:25:27 PM): so let's see we are missing atm pete, roxy won't be here, mirela, khaled, amelia said she couldn't make it at least for now
spies6Kirsten (7:25:28 PM): take it to a vote!
Sorin the Seeker (7:25:39 PM): okay before we start just a few announcements
spies6Kirsten (7:25:42 PM): so Pete, MIrela?
spies6Ariel (7:25:46 PM): Vote yes.
Sorin the Seeker (7:26:00 PM): The game will be on tonight no matter how long the discussion goes.
Sorin the Seeker (7:26:12 PM): After the discussion is over then the game is on break again friday and saturday for 4th of july, have fun!
Sorin the Seeker (7:26:25 PM): after that we are done with all these breaks and will be going full-speed for the conclusion of the game!
spies6levi (7:26:28 PM): The long break killed me
spies6Kirsten (7:26:34 PM): me too =/
spies6levi (7:26:36 PM): I had spent so much time on AIM for Spies
spies6Boris (7:26:37 PM): i'm glad it happened
spies6levi (7:26:42 PM): I didn't know what to do with my self\\
spies6Boris (7:26:42 PM): it's like you all went on vacation with me!
Sorin the Seeker (7:26:47 PM): so the game will start up Sunday again, with Imprisonment #9 for Monday at 8:00 PM CDT.
spies6Ariel (7:26:53 PM): -_-;
spies6rey (7:26:59 PM): sunday..
spies6levi (7:26:59 PM): time capsule
spies6rey (7:27:03 PM): two more days, ew.
Sorin the Seeker (7:27:06 PM): After the Imprisonment the Time Capusles will be opened... should be intriguing..
spies6rey (7:27:11 PM): wait.
spies6rey (7:27:18 PM): three. -.-
spies6Boris (7:27:19 PM): my message is going to suck really bad
Sorin the Seeker (7:27:23 PM): so come back sunday, if you are busy sunday thats ok come back monday and imprisonment will be up then
spies6rey (7:27:26 PM): me too LOL.
spies6levi (7:27:27 PM): My message is . . . interesting
spies6Georgia (7:27:38 PM): Are the time capsules for everyone going to be revealed, including those no longer with us?
spies6rey (7:27:43 PM): yupp.
Sorin the Seeker (7:27:44 PM): yes
spies6Ariel (7:27:45 PM): Yes.
sPIEs6Jason (7:27:48 PM): I can't wait to see the capsules
Sorin the Seeker (7:27:50 PM): for this meeting, I am rarely going to intervene.
TheRockbiter (7:27:57 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (7:27:58 PM): mine is so bad, i procrastinated on it.
Sorin the Seeker (7:28:03 PM): It is up to you as a collective group to come to your decision in an orderly and mature manner.
spies6rey (7:28:04 PM): oh, it's roxy.
spies6levi (7:28:07 PM): He bites rocks?
spies6pete (7:28:08 PM) has entered the room.
spies6levi (7:28:12 PM): Pete!
spies6rey (7:28:12 PM): hey pete. (:
spies6pete (7:28:13 PM): hi
spies6Kirsten (7:28:13 PM): hi pete
spies6pete (7:28:15 PM):
spies6Georgia (7:28:15 PM): Hey Pete.
rdelantar (7:28:20 PM) has entered the room.
spies6levi (7:28:23 PM): Translation
spies6Georgia (7:28:24 PM): Ru Roh.
Sorin the Seeker (7:28:26 PM): You can ask me questions but I will rarely answer them
spies6Boris (7:28:31 PM): where's tiberius?
Sorin the Seeker (7:28:32 PM): if you want a serious answer you must ask LEVI your questions
spies6rey (7:28:33 PM): tons of viewers today. o.O
spies6Georgia (7:28:33 PM): The viewers are really starting to outnumber the players.
spies6Ariel (7:28:34 PM): Except for Levi.
Sorin the Seeker (7:28:38 PM): either publicly or in private IM to him
spies6levi (7:28:47 PM): Orderly and mature manner = We will have chaos, fighting, whining, insults, and crying
spies6Ariel (7:28:48 PM): I wonder if the viewers are going to have a separate chatroom.
Sorin the Seeker (7:28:49 PM): Levi will then ask me the questions which I may or may not choose to answer on my own time
spies6rey (7:29:00 PM): levi, ask sam who the spies are.
Sorin the Seeker (7:29:04 PM): Private IMS are allowed during the meeting
spies6Ariel (7:29:10 PM): Obviously.
spies6levi (7:29:12 PM): Asked it, lol
Sorin the Seeker (7:29:12 PM): There will be NO TIME LIMIT for the meeting.
spies6Ariel (7:29:13 PM): Kirsten has to poke people.
Sorin the Seeker (7:29:18 PM): It goes for as long as it goes.
spies6Kirsten (7:29:18 PM): poke poke
spies6rey (7:29:29 PM): ow.
Sorin the Seeker (7:29:39 PM): People who leave the chat room, or who are not here at the moment, are allowed to come back and participate fully until further notice.
spies6Ariel (7:30:00 PM): I'm going to note down who came in when and left when, etc, by the way.
spies6rey (7:30:01 PM): so this COULD go on forever, couldn't it? -__-
Sorin the Seeker (7:30:09 PM): Some of you have jobs. The people with jobs are Kirsten - Timekeeper + Facilitator, Jason - Empath, Georgia - Devil's Advocate
spies6levi (7:30:12 PM): Tib, grab your shirt
spies6pete (7:30:12 PM): it could, but I really hope not
sPIEs6Jason (7:30:18 PM): we should keep discussing until Sunday when the break is over
Sorin the Seeker (7:30:23 PM): Ariel - Note Taker and Levi - Sam Questioner
spies6Kirsten (7:30:25 PM): sounds good
spies6rey (7:30:26 PM): LOL jason.
spies6levi (7:30:31 PM): Nah
spies6Georgia (7:30:33 PM): Tiberius isn't here.
spies6Tiberius (7:30:38 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (7:30:39 PM): ↑
spies6Boris (7:30:41 PM): there we go
spies6rey (7:30:43 PM): hey tibby!
spies6levi (7:30:43 PM): Tib
spies6Boris (7:30:44 PM): i just invited him
spies6Tiberius (7:30:44 PM): yo yoyoyo
spies6levi (7:30:45 PM): Grab your shirt
spies6Georgia (7:30:45 PM): Haha
spies6levi (7:30:48 PM): This is going until Sunday
Sorin the Seeker (7:30:48 PM): You shoudl probably re-read this post: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=1840
spies6Tiberius (7:30:53 PM): *sets up tent*
Sorin the Seeker (7:30:55 PM): as it has all the directions. refer to it throughout the meeting
spies6rey (7:30:59 PM): done!
spies6Kirsten (7:31:02 PM): *snaps pic*
spies6Tiberius (7:31:25 PM): kirsten you got your pic at last!
Sorin the Seeker (7:31:31 PM): And that is all for me. Good luck you guys! The Spies 6 Consensus Decision Making Meeting has now begun.
spies6Kirsten (7:31:37 PM): Hello
spies6rey (7:31:40 PM):
spies6Tiberius (7:31:41 PM): Yikes ok
spies6levi (7:31:47 PM): Kind of scary
spies6Boris (7:31:49 PM): ok, kirsten should be the MC
spies6rey (7:31:51 PM): dun dun dun ~
spies6Boris (7:31:56 PM): since she facilitates
spies6rey (7:32:02 PM): i second that notion!
spies6rey (7:32:07 PM): *slams hammer down*
spies6Kirsten (7:32:08 PM): I will faciliate your face, Boris
spies6Tiberius (7:32:14 PM): lol
spies6levi (7:32:15 PM): I third the Kirstem mc motion
spies6Boris (7:32:16 PM): oh baby
spies6Ariel (7:32:19 PM): Note-post modified.
spies6Boris (7:32:25 PM): put it to a vote kirsten
spies6jenya (7:32:26 PM): I propose a vote to start us off to see where we stand. Any seconds?
spies6Ariel (7:32:31 PM): Seconded.
spies6Kirsten (7:32:33 PM): thirded
spies6jenya (7:32:38 PM): vote: Rey
spies6levi (7:32:38 PM): fourthed
spies6Kirsten (7:32:43 PM): wait
spies6levi (7:32:43 PM): vote: Rey
spies6rey (7:32:43 PM): fifthed!
spies6Kirsten (7:32:52 PM): Proposal to see where we stand...Vote now!
spies6levi (7:32:57 PM): vote: Rey
spies6Ariel (7:33:01 PM): Vote: Rey
spies6Boris (7:33:01 PM): vote yes
spies6rey (7:33:05 PM): can you vote people not here, haha?
spies6pete (7:33:06 PM): can I before we get this going, ask levi to ask a question to sam
spies6Tiberius (7:33:12 PM): Vote: Doesn't know what the fuck is going on remember?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:13 PM): (this is a yes/no), but ok
spies6jenya (7:33:13 PM): You can vote anyone you want.
spies6Kirsten (7:33:17 PM): vote: Rey
sPIEs6Jason (7:33:19 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6levi (7:33:21 PM): What question?
spies6gretchen2 (7:33:24 PM): Vote: Tiberius
spies6pete (7:33:27 PM): if we vote no to exiling someone, can they be brought up for a vote again
spies6Georgia (7:33:29 PM): Erm. Clusterfuck is beginning, and not following the proper procedurs.
spies6Boris (7:33:29 PM): this is a proposal to see if we should do it
spies6Kirsten (7:33:35 PM): what Boris said
spies6rey (7:33:39 PM): yeah, haha.
spies6pete (7:33:45 PM): in other words, saying no to rey means he is exempt from exile?
spies6Kirsten (7:33:48 PM): This is a proposal to see whether or not we should see where we all stand
spies6rey (7:33:54 PM): no pete.
spies6levi (7:33:54 PM): I asked the question
spies6Georgia (7:33:56 PM): 3 people have to nominate a proposal. Then everyone votes on it.
spies6jenya (7:33:59 PM): vote: Yes
spies6Ariel (7:34:04 PM): Oh. Vote: Yes
spies6Boris (7:34:04 PM): three people did
sPIEs6Jason (7:34:05 PM): I feel like we should restart this proposal so that it's clear to everyone what's going on
spies6Kirsten (7:34:06 PM): so either "Yes, I want to see who everyone would vote now" or "No, I don't want to see it"
spies6rey (7:34:06 PM): they are asking whether or notwe should vote to see where we stand.
spies6levi (7:34:07 PM): The answer was yes
spies6Tiberius (7:34:08 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Georgia (7:34:08 PM): So saying you agree with a proposal, is not the end of it.
spies6rey (7:34:09 PM): Vote: yes
spies6gretchen2 (7:34:09 PM): vote: Yes
sPIEs6Jason (7:34:14 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6levi (7:34:20 PM): Yes, people can be brought up for Exiles multiple times
spies6gretchen2 (7:34:22 PM): i agree with Jason. restart.
spies6pete (7:34:22 PM): vote: yes
spies6rey (7:34:31 PM): did everyone vote?
spies6levi (7:34:32 PM): What are we voting on?
spies6rey (7:34:35 PM): everyone should have a voice.
spies6Boris (7:34:35 PM) has left the room.
spies6Boris (7:34:36 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (7:34:36 PM): anyone vote block?
spies6levi (7:34:37 PM): I was asking Sam a question
spies6Georgia (7:34:43 PM): I haven't voted.
spies6levi (7:34:51 PM): What is on the table?
spies6rey (7:34:53 PM): would you like to see how everyone stands?
spies6rey (7:35:01 PM): georgia?
spies6levi (7:35:05 PM): Yes I would
spies6Georgia (7:35:06 PM): Is that the proposal?
spies6levi (7:35:06 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (7:35:09 PM): I believe everyone except Georgia has voted
spies6levi (7:35:09 PM): And also
spies6rey (7:35:11 PM): yes, georghia.
spies6levi (7:35:11 PM): I've been told
spies6rey (7:35:14 PM): georgia*
spies6levi (7:35:15 PM): That I slouch when I stand
spies6Kirsten (7:35:15 PM): Proposal passes
spies6Georgia (7:35:17 PM): Did it get three nominatons?
spies6Boris (7:35:18 PM): then i guess it passes
spies6Boris (7:35:21 PM): yes it did
spies6levi (7:35:22 PM): And I lean on walls and such
spies6Boris (7:35:23 PM): really fast
spies6rey (7:35:24 PM): okay, it passed.
spies6Georgia (7:35:26 PM): Dude.
spies6Kirsten (7:35:43 PM): it got 3 nominations. We took it to a vote. Everyone voted Yes
spies6Georgia (7:35:50 PM): No, I didn't vote.
spies6jenya (7:35:51 PM): Less chatter will help the facilitator do their job better.
spies6Ariel (7:35:56 PM): As far as I can tell, three people have not voted.
spies6Ariel (7:36:00 PM): Unless I missed them.
spies6Boris (7:36:03 PM): yeah, but it wouldn't have been enough to make it not pas . . .
spies6rey (7:36:04 PM): now let kirsten officially start the votes when she is ready.
spies6Kirsten (7:36:09 PM): except for Georgia, but she isn't enough to block it by herself, so it passes
sPIEs6Jason (7:36:19 PM): We should let Georgia vote anyway to get her opinion
spies6Kirsten (7:36:26 PM): i agree
spies6Kirsten (7:36:33 PM): you devil's advocate, you
spies6levi (7:36:35 PM): Lol
spies6rey (7:36:52 PM): i just remembered that she was devil's advocate, haha.
spies6Kirsten (7:37:04 PM): I'll give Georgia...2 minutes to voice her opinion? That sound like enough time?
spies6Boris (7:37:21 PM): we should do a time limit proposal next
spies6levi (7:37:25 PM): Personally, I don't see any downsides to this proposal
spies6Ariel (7:37:32 PM): Let Georgia speak.
spies6Ariel (7:37:59 PM): Note post updated.
spies6Kirsten (7:38:05 PM): Thanks, Ariel
spies6Boris (7:38:23 PM): goergia?
spies6rey (7:38:26 PM): georgia?
spies6Georgia (7:38:29 PM): One second.
spies6levi (7:38:31 PM): I have a question:
spies6Kirsten (7:38:38 PM): one second has elapsed
spies6Georgia (7:38:40 PM): Clusterfuck started from the beginning. Annoying.
spies6levi (7:38:53 PM): Why hasn't anyone made a "Devil Went Down To Georgia" joke when she got Devil's Advocate?
spies6Kirsten (7:39:02 PM): hahaha
spies6rey (7:39:04 PM): georgia it was sort of like this in exile two's discussion chat.
spies6Tiberius (7:39:08 PM): that is inded a shame levi
spies6Ariel (7:39:14 PM): We need to let Georgia speak.
sPIEs6Jason (7:39:14 PM): Because Charlie Daniels Band isn't something in the emo music library
spies6Kirsten (7:39:31 PM): I'll give you another minute G
spies6Boris (7:39:45 PM): we're not stopping her
spies6Georgia (7:40:10 PM): I'm re-reading Boris. Hard to follow what is going on, when clusterfuck starts from the beginning, and people don't follow proper procedure.
spies6Georgia (7:40:11 PM): Whatev.
spies6Georgia (7:40:19 PM): yes. blah yadda blah yadda
spies6Kirsten (7:40:22 PM): Alright
spies6Kirsten (7:40:31 PM): Everyone say who you would vote for now. That's it
spies6levi (7:40:36 PM): Rey
spies6Kirsten (7:40:39 PM): Rey
spies6jenya (7:40:41 PM): vote: Rey
spies6gretchen2 (7:40:46 PM): Tiberius
spies6Ariel (7:40:46 PM): Rey
spies6Boris (7:40:49 PM): amelia
spies6Tiberius (7:40:50 PM): Amelia
spies6rey (7:40:52 PM): Amelia
sPIEs6Jason (7:40:59 PM): Rey -_- but just barely
spies6Boris (7:41:02 PM): spies found
spies6rey (7:41:15 PM): can we talk yet?
spies6pete (7:41:18 PM): well, currently amelia, but it is barely
spies6Tiberius (7:41:26 PM): i can elaborate if you wish, but I dont have much
spies6Ariel (7:41:27 PM): Georgia has not voted.
spies6Kirsten (7:41:27 PM): Still need input from a few more
spies6Boris (7:41:42 PM): it's not enough to block it ariel
spies6rey (7:41:53 PM): we aren't blocking anything.
spies6Kirsten (7:41:57 PM): she hasn't announced who she would vote.
spies6Ariel (7:41:58 PM): -_-;
spies6Ariel (7:42:07 PM): That's what I was saying.
spies6Boris (7:42:09 PM):
spies6Boris (7:42:12 PM): ah
spies6levi (7:42:13 PM): This isn't Exile, this is seeing how everyone stands on the topic of Exile at the beginning of the meeting
spies6rey (7:42:22 PM): yeah.
spies6gretchen2 (7:42:29 PM): god this is going to take forever.
spies6Kirsten (7:42:32 PM): right, this is just us getting a feel for where everyone is at
spies6gretchen2 (7:42:34 PM): where's that timer?
spies6pete (7:42:37 PM): yes, gretchen, yes it will
spies6gretchen2 (7:42:50 PM): le sigh. georgia vote!
spies6Ariel (7:42:59 PM): I'm going to make one post per proposal/action. It's easier for me, and going to be easier to read.
spies6Kirsten (7:43:05 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (7:43:09 PM): 30 seconds G
spies6rey (7:43:29 PM): G reminds me of gangster, don't call her that. -.-
spies6Tiberius (7:43:44 PM): Yo yo yo yo
spies6Tiberius (7:43:48 PM): homies in the hood yo
sPIEs6Jason (7:43:51 PM): straight up crunk bitch yo
spies6Kirsten (7:43:58 PM): Alright, it's been 30 seconds
spies6Boris (7:43:58 PM): ariel, could we also make a time limit proposal
spies6Kirsten (7:44:01 PM): let's move on
spies6Boris (7:44:02 PM): or anyone really?
spies6Kirsten (7:44:04 PM): we can get her input later
spies6gretchen2 (7:44:05 PM): oh dear god.
spies6rey (7:44:10 PM): georgia takes LONG, haha.
spies6levi (7:44:23 PM): I would like a time limit proposal on voting, tbh
spies6levi (7:44:32 PM): So we aren't constantly waiting to get all the votes in
spies6Kirsten (7:44:34 PM): ok, let's discuss what the limit should be
spies6Ariel (7:44:42 PM): My own proposal is two minutes.
spies6Boris (7:44:43 PM): 7 to 10 i would say
spies6rey (7:44:43 PM): i don't see why we need a limit
spies6rey (7:44:44 PM): BLOCK
spies6Boris (7:44:46 PM): oh
spies6Boris (7:44:52 PM): wait, that's too much
spies6gretchen2 (7:44:56 PM): because some of us have things to do.
spies6levi (7:45:00 PM): I was thinking 3 minutes
spies6Ariel (7:45:03 PM): Everyone should be paying enough attention to be able to vote within a two minute period.
spies6jenya (7:45:04 PM): I propose that we set a limit for each new proposal
spies6rey (7:45:06 PM): we can discuss until everyone gets their point across.
spies6gretchen2 (7:45:06 PM): 3 mins sounds good.
spies6Kirsten (7:45:08 PM): I was thinking 3-5
spies6Tiberius (7:45:09 PM): Yeah Rey, I litterally have something in an hour actually
spies6pete (7:45:10 PM): I think that a block is so variant, I was thinking, why not set a limit for each thing we do
spies6levi (7:45:16 PM): Jenya has a good point
spies6pete (7:45:17 PM): yeah, as jenya said
spies6rey (7:45:18 PM): i guess, tibbu.
spies6jenya (7:45:19 PM): Seconded, Pete.
spies6rey (7:45:22 PM): tibby*
spies6Boris (7:45:31 PM): thirded
spies6Tiberius (7:45:32 PM): So while I bet it's not done by then
spies6Boris (7:45:42 PM): put it to a vote
spies6Tiberius (7:45:52 PM): i'd like as much as I possible to get done whlst i am here
spies6Kirsten (7:45:54 PM): ok, so the proposal to set a limit for each new proposal comes to a vote
spies6rey (7:46:05 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (7:46:08 PM): yes
spies6Tiberius (7:46:08 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Boris (7:46:09 PM): vote yes
spies6levi (7:46:09 PM): *a limit on voting for a new proposal
spies6gretchen2 (7:46:10 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6levi (7:46:12 PM): But Yes
spies6Ariel (7:46:12 PM): Vote: Yes.
sPIEs6Jason (7:46:14 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6jenya (7:46:15 PM): Specifically, I think the Facilitator should pick the limit and three people would have to block it
spies6levi (7:46:22 PM): Agree with Jenya
spies6jenya (7:46:23 PM): Or else we'll have to vote on every new limit
spies6levi (7:46:25 PM): *Agreed
spies6pete (7:46:27 PM): vote yes
spies6Georgia (7:46:31 PM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (7:46:34 PM): Amendment: What Jenya said
spies6rey (7:46:36 PM): uhh.
sPIEs6Jason (7:46:39 PM): Lol
spies6Georgia (7:46:40 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (7:46:40 PM): start votes again!
spies6rey (7:46:42 PM): we just lost our devil's advocate.
spies6rey (7:46:43 PM): or not.
spies6Boris (7:46:45 PM): vote yes
spies6jenya (7:46:46 PM): vote: Yes
spies6levi (7:46:47 PM): Vote Yes
sPIEs6Jason (7:46:47 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (7:46:48 PM): Yes
spies6gretchen2 (7:46:48 PM): yes
spies6pete (7:46:49 PM): vote yes
spies6rey (7:46:50 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (7:46:57 PM): That's 8 votes
spies6Ariel (7:46:59 PM): Vote Yes on Jenya's amendment.
spies6Kirsten (7:47:01 PM): 9
spies6Tiberius (7:47:02 PM): Vote; Yes
spies6Kirsten (7:47:02 PM): It passes
spies6rey (7:47:14 PM): how many people are here anyways?
spies6Boris (7:47:15 PM): pick the time limit
spies6Georgia (7:47:15 PM): What was being voted on?
spies6Boris (7:47:24 PM): 11
spies6levi (7:47:26 PM): 11 people
spies6Kirsten (7:47:27 PM): OK, I will now set a voting time limit for each new proposal
spies6Boris (7:47:30 PM): time limit georgia
spies6Georgia (7:48:00 PM): Why should you choose the limit?
spies6Kirsten (7:48:09 PM): becuase I'm the timekeeper!
spies6Ariel (7:48:15 PM): And because it was voted on.
spies6jenya (7:48:15 PM): You can block it if you don't like it.
spies6Boris (7:48:19 PM): and facilitator
spies6Boris (7:48:23 PM): and it was in the proposal
spies6Tiberius (7:48:28 PM): Yup
spies6levi (7:48:31 PM): It was
spies6Georgia (7:48:32 PM): I think everyone should have a say on the time limite for making votes.
spies6rey (7:48:48 PM): georgia, apparently a lot of them are in a rush so they don't want to stay and discuss.
spies6rey (7:49:02 PM): therefore, we need to have set time limits apparently.
spies6levi (7:49:04 PM): I'm not in a rush
spies6gretchen2 (7:49:09 PM): i have like 2 hours. but come on.
spies6Ariel (7:49:09 PM): Note topic updated.
spies6gretchen2 (7:49:14 PM): it shouldn;t take that long.
spies6Tiberius (7:49:16 PM): Tibby
spies6Tiberius (7:49:19 PM): is in a rush yo
spies6Kirsten (7:49:20 PM): We've voted on the timing issue. We should move on.
spies6gretchen2 (7:49:21 PM): there seems to be 2 candidates.
spies6levi (7:49:21 PM): But I do not want to sit here and wait on votes for simple proposals
spies6Georgia (7:49:28 PM): Time limits are fine, since it can help keep order. But what is the time limit?
spies6gretchen2 (7:49:35 PM): 3 mins
spies6Georgia (7:49:35 PM): Did everyone get a say on what said limit is?
spies6levi (7:49:39 PM): It will differ depending on what the proposal is
spies6gretchen2 (7:49:42 PM): still discussing
spies6Boris (7:49:45 PM): we just said that kirsten should pick it
spies6Kirsten (7:49:46 PM): I will set it for each new proposal
spies6levi (7:49:46 PM): Kirsten decided
spies6Ariel (7:49:48 PM): Kirsten will choose a time limit based on the proposal.l
spies6rey (7:49:49 PM): let's move on.
spies6levi (7:49:53 PM): Cuz shes Timekeeper
spies6gretchen2 (7:49:56 PM): i second rey
spies6gretchen2 (7:50:01 PM): choo choo!!!
spies6Georgia (7:50:01 PM): In case you didn't notice, I got kicked out of the room.
spies6gretchen2 (7:50:04 PM): let's move people
spies6Kirsten (7:50:17 PM): I would make a proposal to move on, but I think we can just do that anyway
spies6Boris (7:50:21 PM): yeah
spies6levi (7:50:21 PM): Lol
spies6Kirsten (7:50:22 PM): so let's do it!
spies6gretchen2 (7:50:23 PM): haha
spies6Tiberius (7:50:34 PM): Si
spies6jenya (7:50:39 PM): I propose that the case on Amelia be laid out.
spies6gretchen2 (7:50:44 PM): seconded
spies6Kirsten (7:50:44 PM): I second that proposal
spies6Kirsten (7:50:46 PM): third
spies6Ariel (7:50:47 PM): Thirded.
spies6levi (7:50:49 PM): fifthed
spies6gretchen2 (7:50:52 PM): lol
spies6Georgia (7:50:53 PM): Vote time.
spies6rey (7:50:53 PM): Tenth.
spies6Tiberius (7:50:58 PM): one miilionthed
spies6jenya (7:50:58 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6gretchen2 (7:50:59 PM): yes
sPIEs6Jason (7:51:00 PM): Fiftieth
spies6rey (7:51:04 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6levi (7:51:05 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Boris (7:51:08 PM): vote yes
spies6Tiberius (7:51:09 PM): Yes
spies6Georgia (7:51:13 PM): Ugh.
spies6pete (7:51:16 PM): vote: yes
spies6Kirsten (7:51:22 PM): Amendment: the players who will ovte her are the ones to lay it out
spies6Tiberius (7:51:24 PM): What ugh Devil girl?
spies6Georgia (7:51:25 PM): Can we please keep this orderly?
spies6Ariel (7:51:28 PM): Vote Yes.
spies6Boris (7:51:35 PM): vote yes
spies6rey (7:51:37 PM): this looks pretty orderly to me. o.O
spies6gretchen2 (7:51:39 PM): yes
spies6levi (7:51:40 PM): Vote Yes, with amendment
spies6Kirsten (7:51:41 PM): Vote yes
spies6Georgia (7:51:45 PM): Be civil Tiberius.
spies6rey (7:51:52 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6pete (7:51:58 PM): vote yes to amendment
spies6Tiberius (7:52:02 PM): I'm not being uncivil, just a question and a joking nickname
spies6Kirsten (7:52:22 PM): And to think he was a nomination for empath. Tsk Tsk
spies6Kirsten (7:52:24 PM): It passes
spies6levi (7:52:32 PM): Lol
spies6Ariel (7:52:33 PM): 4 people have not voted.
spies6Kirsten (7:52:55 PM): I see 9 in favor
spies6Boris (7:52:59 PM): who hasn't?
spies6jenya (7:53:00 PM): vote: Yes
spies6levi (7:53:07 PM): Ariel
spies6Ariel (7:53:09 PM): Georgia, Jason, Jenya, Tiberius
spies6levi (7:53:12 PM): Nvm
spies6Kirsten (7:53:13 PM): I'm counting the votes that took place prior to the amendment
spies6Ariel (7:53:13 PM): Since the amendment.
spies6Tiberius (7:53:14 PM): I voted
spies6Tiberius (7:53:15 PM): Ye
spies6Tiberius (7:53:20 PM): s
spies6Georgia (7:53:22 PM): Yes.
spies6Tiberius (7:53:25 PM): Vote: yes
spies6Boris (7:53:32 PM): passes
spies6Kirsten (7:53:38 PM): Passes
spies6Ariel (7:53:54 PM): Note post updated.
spies6Kirsten (7:53:55 PM): Those who would vote Amelia should now lay out their case on Amelia...on the order of nowish
sPIEs6Jason (7:53:56 PM): Oh, I thought I voted Yes, oops
spies6rey (7:54:08 PM): i'll start.
spies6Kirsten (7:54:15 PM): OK, Rey has the floor
spies6levi (7:54:18 PM): Proposal: No one asks questions until they have finished laying out the case
spies6Kirsten (7:54:20 PM): for 3 minutes
spies6Georgia (7:54:22 PM): I make a proposal that these people laying out the case go, in an orderly fashion, and not talk all at tonce.
ktbakerj (7:54:28 PM) has been invited.
spies6Georgia (7:54:29 PM): I second Levi's propsal.
spies6Ariel (7:54:35 PM): Thirded.
spies6levi (7:54:35 PM): I second Georgia's lol
spies6pete (7:54:37 PM): ok, Im going to start typing mine up, so yeah, sorry if im not too responsive
spies6Kirsten (7:54:38 PM): I say we just do that, and not actually make it a proposal
spies6rey (7:54:41 PM): why do we need to vote on little things...
spies6levi (7:54:44 PM): Kirsten, that sounds good
spies6Ariel (7:54:49 PM): I agree with Kirsten.
spies6Ariel (7:54:53 PM): Voting will take too long.
spies6Kirsten (7:54:56 PM): Agreed
spies6Boris (7:55:05 PM): rey, just start
spies6Tiberius (7:55:07 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (7:55:08 PM): Rey has the floor now to discuss his reasons on Amelia
spies6Kirsten (7:55:12 PM): 3 minutes
spies6Georgia (7:55:13 PM): Then what is the entire point of having proposals, and doing this sytem - if no one is going to follow procedure?
spies6Ariel (7:55:33 PM): Georgia has a point.
spies6Georgia (7:55:50 PM): Yes, it might take more time. But it will also ensure that everyone knows what is going on, and has had the opportunity to voice their opinion on everything available.
spies6Tiberius (7:56:01 PM): Hmm
spies6Boris (7:56:05 PM): i think proposals fix problems, and this didn't seem like it was going to be a problem
spies6pete (7:56:15 PM): ok, I have an idea, we are allowed to introduce roles into the procedue right? SO, why dont we elect a chairperson to decide on small issues like this? that way we get rid of all the little votes with just one vote now?
ktbakerJ (7:56:16 PM) has entered the room.
spies6levi (7:56:28 PM): Pete
spies6Georgia (7:56:29 PM): No.
spies6rey (7:56:29 PM): okay so i have spoken to amelia a LOT in the last two episodes, and i've been gaining a feel of how she plays, etc. i've tried thinking of a way that amelia could have receieved the gift from iris, but most of the possibilities are UNLIKELY. also, when i was speaking with her she contradicted herself. this was the exile that faith was exiled.
spies6levi (7:56:31 PM): That's a great idea
spies6levi (7:56:39 PM): I second Pete
spies6Tiberius (7:56:40 PM): I don't like that idea
spies6Ariel (7:56:54 PM): I'll third Pete.
spies6Georgia (7:56:59 PM): Block Pete's idea/proposal
spies6Ariel (7:56:59 PM): I don't see much of a problem.
spies6rey (7:57:02 PM): amelia was saying that she wanted a third option for exile, but then just a little later she thought BOTH faith and william were excellent exiles.
spies6Tiberius (7:57:04 PM): Block Pete's idea
spies6pete (7:57:11 PM): ok two blockers
spies6Georgia (7:57:12 PM): You are giving one person the decision.
spies6rey (7:57:18 PM): BLOCK.
spies6Ariel (7:57:19 PM): On minor issues.
spies6pete (7:57:21 PM): were talking about small issues
spies6Ariel (7:57:22 PM): Three blocks.
spies6Kirsten (7:57:26 PM): Ok, that's 3 it's been blocked
spies6Ariel (7:57:29 PM): (Why am I not surprised that the third block was Rey...)
spies6Tiberius (7:57:32 PM): we have no secure defination of "minor"
spies6levi (7:57:43 PM): Tib brings up a good point
spies6pete (7:57:52 PM): so you guys are willing to vote on every little issue?
spies6rey (7:57:55 PM): no.
spies6rey (7:58:03 PM): we can just avoid voting on small issues altogether.
spies6Tiberius (7:58:04 PM): no but that's not the way to solve it
spies6levi (7:58:05 PM): Proposal: We go back to listening to Rey lay out the Amelia case.
spies6Tiberius (7:58:11 PM): Seconded
spies6Georgia (7:58:12 PM): You are handing the final decision over to one person, Pete.
spies6levi (7:58:20 PM): I don't think we need to vote on that one
spies6Kirsten (7:58:20 PM): Alright
spies6Boris (7:58:25 PM): this is turning into a cluster fuck
spies6Kirsten (7:58:29 PM): Let's listen to REy lay out the Amelia case. Then we can discuss this afterward
spies6pete (7:58:30 PM): either way ive been blocked, so lets carry on with reys case
spies6rey (7:58:34 PM): Proposal: Levi should stop making small proposals that nobody wants to waste their time voting on
spies6Kirsten (7:58:42 PM): So for now, 3 minutes of silence except Rey, until he says he's done or 3 minutes Elapse
spies6rey (7:58:53 PM): uhh.
sPIEs6Jason (7:58:55 PM): I think we should stop bickering and hurting each other's feelings now
spies6Kirsten (7:58:55 PM): Then we can discuss
spies6rey (7:59:09 PM): did you guys miss waht i posted up there? -__-
spies6levi (7:59:10 PM): Ok Dr. PHil
spies6rey (7:59:11 PM): what*
spies6levi (7:59:16 PM): I saw it
spies6Kirsten (7:59:24 PM): Just copy + paste it or something
spies6levi (7:59:25 PM): I'll copy it down here
spies6Kirsten (7:59:30 PM): it was lost in the midst of chaos
spies6rey (7:59:33 PM): spies6rey (6:56:31 PM): okay so i have spoken to amelia a LOT in the last two episodes, and i've been gaining a feel of how she plays, etc. i've tried thinking of a way that amelia could have receieved the gift from iris, but most of the possibilities are UNLIKELY. also, when i was speaking with her she contradicted herself. this was the exile that faith was exiled.
spies6rey (7:59:38 PM): spies6rey (6:57:04 PM): amelia was saying that she wanted a third option for exile, but then just a little later she thought BOTH faith and william were excellent exiles.
spies6levi (7:59:40 PM): He got it
spies6Kirsten (7:59:50 PM): Ok, Rey is that all you wished to say?
spies6rey (7:59:55 PM): which i find really suspicious, since she seemed very STRONGLY looking for a third exile candidate.
spies6Ariel (7:59:58 PM): I'd like the floor to ask Rey several questions regarding his case.
spies6rey (8:00:13 PM): and she didn't voice much suspicious to me about faith when i directed asked her who she suspected.
spies6Tiberius (8:00:32 PM): Ariel i thought we votelessly agreed to wait till he's done?
spies6rey (8:00:32 PM): she just said something along the lines of the fact that she thought the faith exile made sense, but nothing else.
spies6rey (8:01:00 PM): which is weird, because i would think that someone like amelia, whom i am getting used to, has a very inquisitive personality.
spies6rey (8:01:09 PM): i would expect her to question faith herself.
spies6rey (8:01:21 PM): i asked faith if khaled and/or amelia were questioning her,
spies6Kirsten (8:01:32 PM): 1 minute
spies6rey (8:01:33 PM): since khaled and amelia told me they suspected faith a bit.
spies6rey (8:01:41 PM): and faith told me only khaled spoke with her.
spies6rey (8:01:45 PM): yet they were both online.
spies6rey (8:01:48 PM): so that's my take on amelia.
spies6rey (8:01:49 PM): done.
spies6Kirsten (8:01:57 PM): alright
spies6Kirsten (8:02:07 PM): we can now go back to clusterfucking
spies6rey (8:02:07 PM): Proposal: People question me on the case, etc.
spies6Kirsten (8:02:08 PM):
spies6levi (8:02:13 PM): Rey
spies6Georgia (8:02:18 PM): I propose we go down the list alphabetically and ask questions if we have them.
spies6Ariel (8:02:18 PM): I would like the floor to ask Rey several questions.
spies6levi (8:02:25 PM): I second Georgia
sPIEs6Jason (8:02:28 PM): I second Georgia's proposal
spies6Tiberius (8:02:32 PM): third
sPIEs6Jason (8:02:32 PM): or third -_-
spies6Kirsten (8:02:34 PM): Proposal: Speakers are given 3 minutes to lay out their case. Players are given 5 minutes to question and answer afterward
spies6rey (8:02:35 PM): Fourth!
spies6levi (8:02:48 PM): Kirsten
spies6Tiberius (8:02:51 PM): Block I like Georgia's idea more
spies6rey (8:02:51 PM): 3 minutes might be too little.
spies6Kirsten (8:02:51 PM): Ok, we now vote on Georgia's proposal to go down alphabetially and ask questions
spies6levi (8:02:57 PM): Nvm
spies6Ariel (8:03:00 PM): Vote: Yes.
spies6rey (8:03:02 PM): for the case, three minutes is a bit small.
spies6Tiberius (8:03:03 PM): Vote: yes
spies6Boris (8:03:03 PM): vote yes
spies6rey (8:03:04 PM): BLOCK.
spies6levi (8:03:06 PM): Vote Yes
spies6rey (8:03:07 PM): oh.
spies6Georgia (8:03:07 PM): Yes.
spies6pete (8:03:08 PM): vote: yes
sPIEs6Jason (8:03:09 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6rey (8:03:09 PM): i say Yes
spies6gretchen2 (8:03:12 PM): yes
spies6rey (8:03:12 PM): Vote: yes
spies6Kirsten (8:03:21 PM): It passes
spies6Kirsten (8:03:32 PM): Ariel is the first to question Rey
spies6Ariel (8:03:53 PM): Note post updated.
spies6rey (8:03:57 PM): alright.
spies6Ariel (8:04:05 PM): First question, Rey.
spies6Ariel (8:04:45 PM): Why do you find the fact that Amelia was looking for a third exile candidate suspicious in conjunction with the fact that she claimed to think that both William and Faith were good exiles? The two facts seem independent of one another to me.
spies6rey (8:05:43 PM): to me the first statement seems as if she didn't like the two exile candidates, and then it seems as if she contradicted herself by saying that she thought they were both good exiles.
spies6Ariel (8:06:41 PM): Second question.
spies6Ariel (8:07:05 PM): What did you think of the fact that Amelia repeatedly stated that she felt narrowing down the Exile to just two people was folly? Did you take that into account at all?
spies6rey (8:07:48 PM): yeah, she said that she felt uncomfortable with only two options being open that round.
spies6rey (8:08:31 PM): i assume that to mean that she didn't like the two candidates, since to me it means that she wasn't comfortable voting either the candidates.
spies6Ariel (8:08:53 PM): I disagree. No further questions.
spies6Kirsten (8:08:56 PM): Boris?
spies6Boris (8:09:09 PM): no questions
spies6Kirsten (8:09:14 PM): Georgia?
spies6Georgia (8:09:22 PM): Yes. Question(s).
spies6Georgia (8:09:43 PM): Rey. Doesn't the fact that Iris was a spy, negate the entire idea that she gave gifts?
spies6rey (8:09:48 PM): no.
spies6Georgia (8:09:54 PM): Why not?
spies6rey (8:10:08 PM): iris very well could have potentially had a role, and she could have been able to give gifts.
spies6rey (8:10:10 PM): NOT ONLY THAT,
spies6rey (8:10:27 PM): but the spies from last season were able to give away one free imprisonment immunity, so that could be similar to this season.
spies6rey (8:10:40 PM): there are a lot of possibilities that we may be unaware of.
spies6rey (8:10:46 PM): i've tried to consider a lot of them.
spies6Georgia (8:11:19 PM): Okay. But doesn't the fact that she claimed to have given these "gifts" out at a time, when no roles were being used; strongly negate that idea?
spies6rey (8:12:11 PM): that is another point as well. PERHAPS sam wanted her to give it out so that she wouldn't be able to give all the gifts to her spy buddies, and lucked out with donald. THAT would explain why she chose shady looking people.
spies6rey (8:12:24 PM): but i'm not defending the fact that iris' role was real, as i don't know myself.
spies6rey (8:12:31 PM): i'm just stating possibilities.
spies6Georgia (8:13:09 PM): Okay. Last Question. Have you thought about the possibility that Amelia's claimed immunity, is not related to Iris' claim of gift giving?
spies6rey (8:13:13 PM): yupp.
spies6rey (8:13:34 PM): that was a yes/no question, want me to tell you what i thought of it?
whoareisur (8:13:53 PM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (8:13:58 PM): Yes please. Since you only mentioned it in relation to Iris' "gift giving" in your spiel.
spies6rey (8:14:45 PM): well, amelia could very well have got the immunity from another player BESIDES iris, as has been mentioned before. there is a possibility one of the exiled/imprisoned had a role and they leaked about amelia getting an imprisonment immunity out.
spies6rey (8:15:24 PM): although most of these ways that amelia could have got the immunity are very circumstancial, which is why i am disbelieving her as of this moment. (which i initially didn't)
spies6rey (8:15:31 PM): any further questions?
spies6Georgia (8:15:36 PM): Okay, seriously last question.
spies6Georgia (8:15:48 PM): Have you thought of the possibility that Sam gave it to her?
spies6rey (8:15:52 PM): nope.
spies6Georgia (8:16:14 PM): Can you elaborate on the yes/no questions - so they truly can be the last one.
spies6rey (8:17:06 PM): no, i have not. you bring up a decent point, but i don't think that he did. i would think that she would at least be able to give it away, rather than just keep it for herself. i don't know how to explain, i'm just sure that she didn't get it from sam. if she did i would be surprised.
spies6Kirsten (8:17:16 PM): ok
spies6rey (8:17:25 PM): gretchen's turn! (:
spies6Kirsten (8:17:27 PM): Gretchen?
spies6gretchen2 (8:17:35 PM): no questions. geesus christ no.
spies6rey (8:17:37 PM): ):
spies6Kirsten (8:17:38 PM): Jason?
sPIEs6Jason (8:17:47 PM): Yes
spies6rey (8:17:52 PM): woot, haha.
spies6Kirsten (8:17:53 PM): Any questions for Rey about Amelia?
sPIEs6Jason (8:18:00 PM): I mean yes I have them lol
spies6Kirsten (8:18:04 PM): ah, ok
spies6gretchen2 (8:18:33 PM): (Sam I don't like you atm)
spies6rey (8:18:40 PM): o.o
spies6gretchen2 (8:18:51 PM): sorry Jason. continue.
sPIEs6Jason (8:19:05 PM): Okay, Rey... you say that you found it weird that Amelia didn't want to limit an Exile to just Faith and William... but they were both Citizens. Do you think that could make her look any better or no?
Spies Viewer (8:19:06 PM) has left the room.
spies6rey (8:19:57 PM): i think it POTENTIALLY makes her look better, but by no means clears her. look at iris, she had no need to vote faith which immediately gives us the assumption that she knew there was more than enough votes on faith.
spies6rey (8:20:53 PM): therefore, it wouldn't be surprising if there was a spy on the wagon, while iris looks twice as good; not voting a citizen AND claiming her role, which was found fake thanks to me.<3 (:
sPIEs6Jason (8:21:13 PM): ok sounds cool lol
spies6rey (8:21:18 PM): jenya?
sPIEs6Jason (8:21:18 PM): And one morte
spies6rey (8:21:21 PM): oh okay.
sPIEs6Jason (8:21:39 PM): Was that the first time that you suspected Amelia and if not, when?
spies6rey (8:21:51 PM): i suspected amelia even before iris' claim.
spies6rey (8:22:38 PM): then after iris' claim and flip of spy, i tried to find reasons as to why amelia could have got the immunity.
spies6rey (8:22:47 PM): i spoke to her very frequently after iris' flip.
spies6rey (8:23:12 PM): i must admit, the way she speaks and posts makes me get a citizen vibe.
spies6rey (8:23:20 PM): i don't understand why kirsten thinks it's fake.
spies6rey (8:23:28 PM): and i find it even more weird how kirsten doesn't follow up on that.
spies6rey (8:23:33 PM): anyways, is that all jason?
spies6Kirsten (8:23:44 PM): nice potshot Rey
spies6Kirsten (8:23:50 PM): anyway, is that all jason?
sPIEs6Jason (8:23:50 PM): yes lol
spies6Kirsten (8:23:53 PM): Jenya?
spies6jenya (8:24:10 PM): Rey, without looking it up, who did Amelia vote for at exiles 1, 2, 3 and 4?
spies6rey (8:24:17 PM): one was..
spies6rey (8:24:20 PM): kirsten
spies6rey (8:24:22 PM): two was..
spies6rey (8:24:23 PM): paris.
spies6rey (8:24:25 PM): three was..
spies6rey (8:24:28 PM): donald?
spies6rey (8:24:31 PM): donald or yvette.
spies6rey (8:24:34 PM): no.
spies6rey (8:24:38 PM): i was yvette, i'm pretty sure.
spies6rey (8:24:40 PM): it*
spies6rey (8:24:44 PM): four..
spies6rey (8:24:47 PM): what happened that exile?
spies6rey (8:24:54 PM): oh yeah, donald.
spies6rey (8:24:57 PM): she voted donald.
spies6rey (8:24:59 PM): five..
spies6rey (8:25:03 PM): what happened hmm..
spies6jenya (8:25:19 PM): Ok, next question: did you find her behavior suspicious during any of those exile weeks?
spies6rey (8:25:28 PM): *rate limited*
spies6rey (8:25:30 PM): okay.
spies6rey (8:25:31 PM): anyways,

[Judge Sam]

spies6rey (8:25:33 PM): i did.
spies6rey (8:25:56 PM): i believe i went around saying how incredibly suspicious it was that she pinned kirsten with donald EVEN BEFORE she knew any of their alignments.
spies6rey (8:26:08 PM): as if she thought she would easily pin kirsten down if donald ever flipped.
spies6levi (8:26:34 PM): brb
spies6rey (8:26:39 PM): jenya?
spies6khaled (8:27:00 PM) has been invited.
spies6jenya (8:27:01 PM): That's the only thing Amelia did for the first 35 days that you found suspicious?
spies6rey (8:27:01 PM): hurry this up, this discussion seems too much about me.
spies6khaled (8:27:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies6jenya (8:27:12 PM): That she pinned Kirsten to Donald?
spies6rey (8:27:17 PM): jenya, she lurked for most of the first 35 days.
spies6rey (8:27:22 PM): as i previously stated,
spies6rey (8:27:28 PM): i had never spoke to her. ever.
spies6rey (8:27:30 PM): until like..
spies6khaled (8:27:31 PM): Hey everyone...I've got like...15 minutes, so I thought I'd check in.
spies6rey (8:27:35 PM): episode five maybe?
spies6rey (8:27:39 PM): hey khaled.
spies6rey (8:27:39 PM): (:
spies6jenya (8:27:55 PM): Are you aware that Donald claimed to never have spoken with Amelia?
spies6jenya (8:28:04 PM): And if so, how do you feel about that?
spies6rey (8:28:27 PM): well my normal, instantly assuming side makes me think amelia is a citizen due to that but i'll have to see that after.
spies6rey (8:28:32 PM): meanwhile,
spies6rey (8:28:38 PM): my calmer, serious side
spies6rey (8:28:49 PM): recognizes that i was wrong with almathea's statement about jaya.
spies6rey (8:29:01 PM): therefore, i think spies would tend to say things like that around this point-ish.
spies6rey (8:29:11 PM): well..
spies6rey (8:29:16 PM): that point.*
spies6jenya (8:29:39 PM): Ok, and you listed Amelia as Neutral on June 11th, putting Faith, Levi and Iris above her on your list. What made her change to a Suspect on June 23rd?
spies6rey (8:29:53 PM): maybe.. actually talking to her?
spies6rey (8:30:02 PM): neutral = no communication barely.
spies6rey (8:30:22 PM): nobody in the game is neutral, and i don't think anyone should be neutral for anyone at this point.
spies6jenya (8:30:53 PM): When you moved Amelia from Neutral to Spy, you also moved William from Citizen to Spy and Iris from Suspect to Citizen. Can you please explain? (This was a day after Iris's roleclaim.)
spies6Tiberius (8:30:54 PM): *officially begins multitasking* would the timekeeper mind iming me directly when its my turn to interogate, and again when it's my turn to explain my amelia vote? thanks
spies6Kirsten (8:31:01 PM): Will do
spies6jenya (8:31:24 PM): Why did Iris's roleclaim make you think Iris was a Cit and Amelia was a spy all the sudden?/
spies6rey (8:31:28 PM): no.
spies6Ariel (8:31:29 PM): (Note topic updated.)
spies6rey (8:31:35 PM): iris' claim did not affect my perception of amelia.
spies6rey (8:31:45 PM): also, i did not update my views every point of the exile.
spies6rey (8:31:58 PM): by the end, iris was at spy.
spies6rey (8:32:07 PM): immediately after faith was exiled,
spies6rey (8:32:16 PM): i starting yelling at you guys, saying how fake iris' role was.
spies6rey (8:32:21 PM): but look who was right.
spies6jenya (8:32:35 PM): You believed Iris's role for 48 hours but thought Amelia was a spy for getting the Immunity from her?
Sorin the Seeker (8:32:46 PM): holy crap i forgot to mention, everyone should follow spies on twitter: twitter.com/spiesmafia and facebook: www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6014063321 if you have it =) ok carry on.
spies6rey (8:32:46 PM): is this before faith was exiled or after?
sPIEs6Jason (8:33:02 PM): Lol Sam
spies6levi (8:33:03 PM): ROFL
spies6Kirsten (8:33:08 PM): Proposal to follow spies on Twitter!
spies6rey (8:33:13 PM): block.
sPIEs6Jason (8:33:13 PM): BLOCK
spies6Kirsten (8:33:17 PM): Block
spies6Kirsten (8:33:18 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (8:33:22 PM): back to the discussion of Rey
spies6rey (8:33:35 PM): jenya, was that before or after faith was exiled?
spies6jenya (8:33:41 PM): After
spies6rey (8:33:45 PM): and it is the discussion of rey's amelia suspcions.
spies6rey (8:33:47 PM): jenya.
spies6jenya (8:33:51 PM): You believed Iris's roleclaim for the next 48 hours.
spies6rey (8:33:57 PM): i don't know where you randomly grabbed that 48 hour figure from.
spies6rey (8:34:14 PM): i'm pretty sure that RIGHT after i called it fake.
spies6rey (8:34:17 PM): then i spoke to her.
spies6rey (8:34:27 PM): and then RIGHT after i spoke to her i posted the discrepancy on the threads.
spies6jenya (8:34:31 PM): No,
spies6jenya (8:34:41 PM): The next day you thought Iris was a cit for her roleclaim all day.
spies6rey (8:34:41 PM): if it wasn't for me, levi wouldn't have gone running to the threads with the slip.
spies6rey (8:34:52 PM): did i say that?
spies6jenya (8:34:53 PM): And you thought Amelia was a spy. Here's a post:
spies6rey (8:35:03 PM): yeah, i know the post i made in the burg.
spies6jenya (8:35:04 PM): "I'm extremely confident that either William or Amelia is a spy.
I have already decided I will be voting Amelia this round. "
spies6rey (8:35:07 PM): oh.
spies6jenya (8:35:11 PM): June 15th 1:14pm
spies6rey (8:35:26 PM): that's AFTER faith's exile?
spies6jenya (8:35:27 PM): 1:21 PM
spies6jenya (8:35:30 PM): Why is Iris not on the list of people you'd consider voting for this episode?
I believe her claim and the way she claimed it.
spies6jenya (8:35:35 PM): Yes.
spies6levi (8:35:46 PM): brb again, sorry
spies6rey (8:36:08 PM): i need the link to the first one, haha. but for the second one, yes i kept chaning my mind on her claim. the reason why: amelia confirmed that iris actually gave her the immunity.
spies6jenya (8:36:09 PM): So what made Amelia a spy when Iris was a Cit for her claim?
spies6rey (8:36:14 PM): i'm extremely quick to believe things.
spies6rey (8:36:16 PM): and no.
spies6rey (8:36:25 PM): i was already suspicious of amelia.
spies6rey (8:36:28 PM): even before the iris claim.
spies6jenya (8:36:35 PM): 5:54 PM:
spies6jenya (8:36:36 PM): "See, Iris' claim has now been confirmed.
The only way she is lying is if Amelia and her are both spies.
I don't think Iris is a spy, but Amelia could be one."
spies6rey (8:36:36 PM): as with william too.
spies6rey (8:36:42 PM): yeah, that's the one i know.
spies6rey (8:37:06 PM): it's because iris' claim was backed up by amelia, meanwhile amelia could have been a spy that recieved the gift.
spies6jenya (8:37:09 PM): So why did that make Amelia a spy and Iris not? What's the logic?
spies6rey (8:37:19 PM): it didn't MAKE it that way.
spies6rey (8:37:24 PM): it made me THINK that way.
spies6rey (8:37:26 PM):
spies6Kirsten (8:38:12 PM): ok
spies6rey (8:38:13 PM): kirsten was the main person that got me back to suspecting iris again. she showed me things (i can't remember what) that convinced me of iris' claim being afke again.
spies6rey (8:38:15 PM): fake*
spies6rey (8:38:24 PM): anymore jenya?
spies6rey (8:38:27 PM): any more*
spies6jenya (8:38:28 PM): No thanks.
spies6Kirsten (8:38:31 PM): Alright
spies6Kirsten (8:38:36 PM): My turn
spies6rey (8:38:41 PM): not khaled?
spies6rey (8:38:45 PM): okay.
spies6Boris (8:38:47 PM): i would like to point out that it has now been 40 minutes since rey was initially done explaining
spies6Kirsten (8:38:53 PM): sorry =/
spies6Kirsten (8:38:56 PM): I'll try to keep this brief
spies6Boris (8:38:57 PM): and he's only one of three people that need to do so
spies6rey (8:39:01 PM): thank you boris!
spies6rey (8:39:16 PM): as much as i love being interrogated, this is probably making you all mad.
spies6rey (8:39:17 PM):
spies6Boris (8:39:18 PM): i am not staying up for four hours of this
spies6Kirsten (8:39:18 PM): Rey, first question: Do you think Iris pressuring Callahan to claim a role suggests that she gave him a gift?
spies6rey (8:39:29 PM): no, haha.
spies6Kirsten (8:39:46 PM): why not?
spies6rey (8:40:17 PM): because i would think that she would already know that she gave him the gift. therefore, why would she feel the need to interogate him for it?
spies6rey (8:40:32 PM): she would gain nothing whatsoever from that, correct?
spies6Kirsten (8:40:47 PM): confirmation of a gift giving role is what she would gain
spies6rey (8:40:50 PM): maybe a little citizen points from the guy that was getting exiled anyways.
spies6rey (8:40:59 PM): ah, true.
spies6rey (8:41:14 PM): i just know players like callahan.
spies6rey (8:41:25 PM): i really feel that he would claim something if he actually had something.
spies6Kirsten (8:41:38 PM): second question: Why do you keep defending Amelia as a citizen if you think she's a spy?
spies6rey (8:42:01 PM): i'm going to ask you a question to semi-answer that: do i not do that for all my suspects?
spies6rey (8:42:21 PM): i always try to find reasons of why they would be both alignments.
spies6rey (8:42:28 PM): i don't tunnel on reasons why someone is a spy.
spies6Kirsten (8:42:33 PM): Examples: Suggesting how Iris could have given Amelia a gift, even citing spies 5 as a reference. Pointing out Donald chatting with Amelia as a point in her favor. Suggesting that Amelia sounds citizen-like when she posts
spies6rey (8:42:37 PM): i also try to see how they can be a citizen.
spies6Kirsten (8:42:45 PM): ok, so explain how her "spy-like" attributes outweight the citizen ones?
spies6rey (8:43:17 PM): the contradiction that she preformed while in the chat with me does not feel like it came from a citizen. at all. all credit to that find goes to pete, by the way.
spies6Kirsten (8:43:42 PM): so you have that one point against her, compared to numerous points you yourself have made in her favor, yet you believe she is still a spy?
spies6rey (8:43:44 PM): i feel like i'm taking some of his glory. sorry pete.
spies6rey (8:43:55 PM): i have more points against her being a spy i think.
spies6rey (8:44:09 PM): unless you could gut feeling as a reason....
spies6rey (8:44:12 PM): which i certainly don't.
spies6khaled (8:44:23 PM): I'm going to interject quickly--could we give Rey a break for ~2 minutes and ask me some questions, before I head out?
spies6rey (8:44:28 PM): yay!
spies6khaled (8:44:30 PM): If necessary.l
spies6Kirsten (8:44:31 PM): sure
spies6rey (8:44:34 PM): i second that proposal.
spies6levi (8:44:36 PM): I don't have any for Khaled
spies6levi (8:44:40 PM): :/
spies6gretchen2 (8:44:43 PM): thirded
spies6Kirsten (8:44:44 PM): let's just ask them, and not make a proposal
spies6Kirsten (8:44:48 PM): he has 2 minutes
spies6levi (8:44:49 PM): Agreed
spies6gretchen2 (8:44:55 PM): sounds good
spies6Ariel (8:45:01 PM): Alphabetically?
spies6Kirsten (8:45:12 PM): Khaled, why did you want Rey to be the facilitator if you have pointed out numerous times you think he's a douchebag?
spies6Georgia (8:45:14 PM): -insert spiel about not following procedures, which negates entire system, and reason for doing this-
spies6jenya (8:45:20 PM): haha
spies6gretchen2 (8:45:32 PM): hush Georgia
spies6jenya (8:45:36 PM): I propose Khaled tell us who he's voting and then speaks for 2 minutes.
spies6rey (8:45:36 PM): someone's holding a grudge. xD
spies6gretchen2 (8:45:37 PM): this is progress!
spies6Ariel (8:45:37 PM): No, she's right.
spies6Georgia (8:45:45 PM): I'm the DA. Part of my job.
sPIEs6Jason (8:45:55 PM): A second Jenya's proposal for the good of us all
spies6gretchen2 (8:45:59 PM): i know. and i am the da's da.
spies6khaled (8:46:01 PM): He is reasonable enough at keeping things on track.
sPIEs6Jason (8:46:04 PM): He might answer our questions himself
spies6khaled (8:46:04 PM): Douchebag aside.
spies6Tiberius (8:46:22 PM) has left the room.
spies6Boris (8:46:29 PM): fuck
spies6rey (8:46:34 PM): it's not even time for tibby's daily connection.
spies6Tiberius (8:46:42 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (8:46:45 PM): Alright, Khaled, who would you vote for if you had to vote now?
spies6Georgia (8:46:52 PM): And why.
spies6Ariel (8:46:54 PM): Khaled, the Facilitator has to have some semblance of impartiality in order to fulfill their role. Do you think Rey could have seriously been impartial, knowing that he was a prime Exile target?
spies6rey (8:47:15 PM): i think rey could have, but that's just me.
spies6khaled (8:47:37 PM): Ariel, I didn't consider that part, actually. Probably not,
spies6khaled (8:47:43 PM): @vote
spies6khaled (8:48:23 PM): I'd probably go for Mirela
spies6Georgia (8:48:42 PM): Why?
spies6rey (8:48:43 PM): good vote, but why?
spies6khaled (8:48:45 PM): I was certain that either she or Thor would be spies.
spies6rey (8:49:02 PM): why?
spies6khaled (8:49:09 PM): She's also got one of the poorest voting track records
spies6khaled (8:49:34 PM): Beyond that, I haven't read much, since I haven't had time.
spies6khaled (8:49:57 PM): Reason I'm certain that she/Thor is a spy is because I know I'm not one, and I'm fairly sure that Ariel isn't one either.
spies6khaled (8:50:11 PM): And I don't think that there was only one spy on our original team.
spies6Kirsten (8:50:39 PM): Anything else you would like to say, khaled?
spies6rey (8:50:40 PM): do we have to wait until he finished before we can ask questions? o.O
spies6rey (8:50:45 PM): finishes*
spies6khaled (8:50:55 PM): Not that I can think of, really.
spies6khaled (8:51:18 PM): Be careful, make good choices, don't do anything that would make your mother cry?
spies6jenya (8:51:21 PM): Khaled, what's your opinion of Rey?
spies6rey (8:52:05 PM): do you have any support as to why you think there is more than one spy in your group, khaled?
spies6khaled (8:52:09 PM): I'm not completely sold on the evidence against him, though it is certainly questionable.
spies6khaled (8:52:19 PM): Rey, statistics?
spies6rey (8:52:24 PM): i would think that with so many known citizens voting callahan, more than just iris could have voted off callahan.
spies6rey (8:53:03 PM): it would make them look much better.
spies6Tiberius (8:53:09 PM): i d/ced and missed khaled's answer to kirsten's first question, can someone copypasta it thanks
spies6khaled (8:53:12 PM): Anyway, I must vanish
spies6rey (8:53:21 PM): okay bye khaled. o.O !
spies6Kirsten (8:53:31 PM): Bye Khaled, thanks for popping in
spies6khaled (8:53:33 PM): Goodby everyone
spies6khaled (8:53:39 PM) has left the room.
spies6gretchen2 (8:53:41 PM): see ya
spies6Ariel (8:53:48 PM):
spies6Kirsten (8:46:51 PM): Alright, Khaled, who would you vote for if you had to vote now?



spies6khaled (8:47:49 PM): @vote

spies6khaled (8:48:29 PM): I'd probably go for Mirela
spies6jenya (8:53:48 PM): There goes one hell of a scumhunter *swoons*
spies6Ariel (8:54:05 PM): I cut out the middle - it was too long to send, otherwise.
spies6Ariel (8:54:10 PM): I move that we get back to Kirsten's questioning of Rey.
spies6Kirsten (8:54:10 PM): Alright: spies6rey (6:43:48 PM): i have more points against her being a spy i think.
spies6rey (8:54:29 PM): ew, my name is pink in your AIM.
spies6Kirsten (8:54:31 PM): if you have more points against her being a spy, why do you think she is one?
spies6Kirsten (8:54:34 PM): sexy
spies6rey (8:54:41 PM): i know i am, thanks.
spies6rey (8:54:42 PM): anyways.
spies6Ariel (8:54:44 PM): (It's pink in mine too, Rey.)
spies6levi (8:54:48 PM): (mine too)
spies6rey (8:54:53 PM): damn!
spies6rey (8:54:54 PM): anyways.
spies6rey (8:54:59 PM): did i say THAT, LOL?
spies6Kirsten (8:55:02 PM): I guess Rey really is that princess from the leaderboard
spies6rey (8:55:09 PM): look.
spies6rey (8:55:17 PM): you are interpretting that post wrong, haha.
spies6rey (8:55:20 PM): i did write it a bit bad.
Sorin the Seeker (8:55:22 PM): Hey all I have an announcement.
Sorin the Seeker (8:55:31 PM): The only announcement I'm going to make all night
spies6rey (8:55:32 PM): what i mean is, i have more evidence that points to her being a spy.
Sorin the Seeker (8:55:46 PM): Things look like they are going well... certainly orderly... never ever expected that from this group to be honest haha
spies6Kirsten (8:56:00 PM):
Sorin the Seeker (8:56:06 PM): It's been nearly an hour and a half of the meeting.
spies6rey (8:56:07 PM): haha roxy isn't here, so that helps a bit. (:
Sorin the Seeker (8:56:17 PM): We will make a decision on who to Exile tonight, no matter how long it takes.
spies6Tiberius (8:56:25 PM): not that one kirsten the one about voting for rey for facil, was that not you?
spies6Georgia (8:56:26 PM): (Rey you are a teal/blue in mine)
spies6rey (8:56:32 PM): georgia.<3
spies6Georgia (8:56:39 PM): (Tiberius is pink)
spies6rey (8:56:40 PM): all of your other AIMs learn from georgia, please.
Sorin the Seeker (8:56:43 PM): To facilitate that process, from now on, should you leave the chat room for 15 minutes or longer, you will forfeit your right to vote in all proposals.
spies6rey (8:56:44 PM): ooo, fitting.
Sorin the Seeker (8:56:53 PM): That includes the proposal for who to Exile.
spies6Kirsten (8:56:58 PM): just about to ask that
spies6pete (8:57:06 PM): ....wow, ok
Sorin the Seeker (8:57:09 PM): If you do not respond to messages and just stay in the chat room for 15 minutes or longer, you will likewise lose your vote.
spies6gretchen2 (8:57:11 PM): bah
spies6gretchen2 (8:57:13 PM): grrrrrrrrrrr
spies6Boris (8:57:17 PM): interesting
spies6rey (8:57:18 PM): wow.
Sorin the Seeker (8:57:21 PM): As the numbers whittle down and the meeting drags out longer and longer...
spies6rey (8:57:22 PM): let's hurry this up.
spies6jenya (8:57:26 PM): LOL!
spies6Ariel (8:57:26 PM): Hmm.
spies6rey (8:57:27 PM): tibby can a curfew.
Sorin the Seeker (8:57:27 PM): maybe some people will be more willing to come to a consensus
spies6Boris (8:57:28 PM): please
spies6Georgia (8:57:30 PM): Phew on the 15 minute limit.
spies6Kirsten (8:57:32 PM): All citizens stay!
spies6rey (8:57:37 PM): NO
sPIEs6Jason (8:57:45 PM): Does that mean we need to talk every 15 minutes evenn if we're not on the clock?
Sorin the Seeker (8:57:46 PM): That is all I have to say and will be my final annoucnement. Good luck!
spies6gretchen2 (8:57:47 PM): i bet i will be back before this finishes. just saying.
spies6rey (8:57:53 PM): that will make more of a chance that a citizen will be exiled.
spies6Ariel (8:57:54 PM): Samuel, does that mean only the Spies6 players in the chat right now have a say in who to exile?
spies6Boris (8:57:55 PM): yes
spies6gretchen2 (8:58:03 PM): and i bet the spies will drag this out as long as they can. i would.
spies6Kirsten (8:58:05 PM): Jason, I take that to mean that if you get prodeed and do not respond
spies6Kirsten (8:58:19 PM): in 15 minutes, you get booted
sPIEs6Jason (8:58:25 PM): Ok thats cool then, I don't want to speak out of turn -_-
spies6rey (8:58:29 PM): okay let's hurry this up!
spies6Georgia (8:58:32 PM): "prodeed"?
spies6rey (8:58:35 PM): any final questions for me regarding amelia?
spies6Boris (8:58:36 PM): speaking of dragging things out
spies6Tiberius (8:58:37 PM): rey i'm at a friend's, new curfew
spies6Georgia (8:58:38 PM): Oh, prodded
spies6Kirsten (8:58:39 PM): Ok, last question for Rey
spies6rey (8:58:42 PM): YAY TIBBY!
spies6Boris (8:58:44 PM): rey has now been questioned FOR AN HOUR
spies6rey (8:58:49 PM): yeah.
spies6pete (8:58:51 PM): ...LOL
spies6Ariel (8:58:58 PM): (I am here, but I have a car to unload full of sand and I'm not sure how long it will take me. I'll still be here, though.)
spies6Kirsten (8:58:58 PM): alright, fine
spies6rey (8:59:00 PM): they just want me to be the focus so that i will be exiled that much easier, haha.
spies6rey (8:59:01 PM):
Sorin the Seeker (8:59:06 PM): Yes it does Ariel, however Mirela will have an exception, if she enterse before 9:15 PM CDT since that is the time she said she could make it, for everyone else their vote is forfeit.
spies6Kirsten (8:59:08 PM): Levi, Pete, Tiberius Do any of you have questions for Rey?
spies6rey (8:59:11 PM): now let's get to the nxt cases!
spies6rey (8:59:14 PM): next*
spies6levi (8:59:17 PM): I have no questions for Rey
spies6levi (8:59:20 PM): Unfortunately
spies6levi (8:59:26 PM): Correction
spies6levi (8:59:31 PM): No questions for Rey concerning Amelia
spies6rey (8:59:34 PM): i wouldn't expect you to, levi.
spies6pete (8:59:35 PM): no, no questions
spies6rey (8:59:42 PM): tibby?
spies6rey (8:59:45 PM): any questions?
spies6Kirsten (9:00:03 PM): Tiberius has a question
spies6Tiberius (9:00:11 PM): One question!
spies6Tiberius (9:00:13 PM): I only have one for Rey: Did Amelia seem to start thinking William and Faith were both good options only when Iris became an option, or before? It makes a pretty big difference.
Sorin the Seeker (9:00:28 PM): I would also like to note that it is your meeting and up to you to determine the process by which you want to conduct it. =)
spies6rey (9:00:33 PM): uhh i think before, haha.
spies6Georgia (9:01:01 PM): (I can help, sort of in determining that answer. Sort of.)
spies6rey (9:01:01 PM): i could be incorrect. *shrug*
spies6Tiberius (9:01:19 PM): ok
spies6rey (9:01:24 PM): tibby, i think it was before.
spies6rey (9:01:31 PM): i'm plike 90% sure.
spies6rey (9:01:32 PM): like*
spies6Kirsten (9:01:33 PM): I believe it was before as well, though I am not positive
spies6Tiberius (9:01:38 PM): ok no more questions then
spies6rey (9:01:45 PM): okay.
spies6rey (9:01:50 PM): thank you.
spies6rey (9:01:55 PM): now i have to take my cough medicine.
spies6Kirsten (9:01:57 PM): Alright, we are done with the interrogation of Rey re: Amelia
spies6rey (9:01:58 PM): brb.
spies6Georgia (9:02:04 PM): (only that she said to me, she wanted a third option to me. This was well before the big group chat and stuff the exile day)
spies6Boris (9:02:12 PM): and it only took more then an hour
spies6gretchen2 (9:02:18 PM): looooooool
spies6Kirsten (9:02:36 PM): Alright, I'm going to be stricter on the keeping of time from now on
spies6Tiberius (9:02:39 PM): It was important because I was thinking she changed her mind when she say a fellow spy targetted
spies6Tiberius (9:02:45 PM): but if it was before then maybe not
spies6Kirsten (9:02:53 PM): I can go all night, but...
spies6levi (9:03:02 PM): I can't
spies6gretchen2 (9:03:06 PM): some of us have things to do
spies6Boris (9:03:07 PM): i can't either
spies6pete (9:03:08 PM): I cant
spies6Kirsten (9:03:14 PM): Alright
spies6Georgia (9:03:16 PM): Limit number of questions?
spies6pete (9:03:31 PM): no
Sorin the Seeker (9:03:41 PM): Also: If you do leave the chat room or forfeit your vote - you are allowed to return to be a part of the discussion at a later time, you just don't have any votes to use
spies6pete (9:03:43 PM): i think as many are needed, we just need to speed things up in response times
spies6Georgia (9:03:43 PM): If you have more than a limit, then see if someone else want sto ask?
spies6gretchen2 (9:03:47 PM): nah i think we just need to streamline it
Sorin the Seeker (9:03:53 PM): so should you want to return, you can
spies6Kirsten (9:03:58 PM): I agree, streamlined, not limit the number
sPIEs6Jason (9:04:03 PM): What happens if a disconnect happens, Sam?
Sorin the Seeker (9:04:09 PM): 15 minutes to come back
sPIEs6Jason (9:04:18 PM): Ok cool
spies6rey (9:04:19 PM): 'kay back.
spies6Georgia (9:04:25 PM): How do you propose streamlining it?
spies6gretchen2 (9:04:27 PM): i.e. does anyone else have further evidence on amelia? has anyone's vote changed because of this discussion?
ThaPauly (9:04:28 PM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (9:04:28 PM): Alright, what is the next topic on the agenda? Pete's reasons for Amelia? Or should we discuss something other than Amelia?
spies6levi (9:04:44 PM): Something other than Amelia
spies6Boris (9:04:48 PM): please
spies6Kirsten (9:04:49 PM): I think if anyone has additional evidnece that hasn't been covered, it should be discussed.
spies6pete (9:04:54 PM): yeah, but I havent got that much on amelia, but Id still like to say it
spies6Kirsten (9:04:54 PM): otehrwise, let's move on
spies6Georgia (9:04:56 PM): We are still with the Amelia.
spies6gretchen2 (9:04:56 PM): agreed
spies6rey (9:04:58 PM): uh, so basically you made me become the only person to discuss how i feel about amelia.
spies6jenya (9:05:00 PM): Seconded Kirsten's proposal
spies6levi (9:05:00 PM): Wait
spies6Boris (9:05:01 PM): i don't have anything to add
spies6rey (9:05:02 PM): thanks a lot.
spies6pete (9:05:03 PM): ok, ignore me *sulks*
spies6levi (9:05:04 PM): Pete wants to add something
spies6Georgia (9:05:06 PM): Changing back and forth between topics is disorganized.
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:08 PM): well let pete speak then
spies6levi (9:05:11 PM): Pete wants to add something
spies6Kirsten (9:05:13 PM): Let's let pete give his information
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:13 PM): it is
spies6jenya (9:05:19 PM): Pete!
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:19 PM): stay on amelia until it's done
spies6jenya (9:05:21 PM): Speech!
spies6pete (9:05:22 PM): its very small actually
sPIEs6Jason (9:05:25 PM): We sdhould let Pete speak
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:27 PM): i like pete
spies6pete (9:05:32 PM): I shouldnt have made a big deal out of it but whatever
spies6Kirsten (9:05:36 PM): but the two of you are spies who've never communicated
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:45 PM): because his speech is short
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:49 PM): that's all
spies6pete (9:05:50 PM): oh no gretchen, kirstens onto us
spies6Tiberius (9:05:53 PM): timekeeper tell me if a vote comes up please, or something involving me, I'm still multitasking
spies6pete (9:05:55 PM): anyways
spies6gretchen2 (9:05:57 PM): hah! not a supercit!
spies6rey (9:05:59 PM): so he's taking over after ed is gone, gretchen?
spies6gretchen2 (9:06:06 PM): hell no rey
spies6Georgia (9:06:10 PM): One sec Pete.
spies6gretchen2 (9:06:10 PM): no one can replace ed
spies6pete (9:06:12 PM): Id have like to of spoken to amelia and have her here
spies6levi (9:06:17 PM): Let's keep off topic discussion
spies6levi (9:06:20 PM): To a minimum
spies6pete (9:06:34 PM): it means that I can ask her why she decided that kirtsen was a citizen after finding out that donald was a spy
spies6Kirsten (9:06:36 PM): Yeah, sorry for taking part, but let's stick to Pete + Amelia and suspicions thereof for the time being
TheRockbiter (9:06:40 PM) has left the room.
spies6pete (9:06:47 PM): but, georgia could argue for her maybe?
spies6rey (9:06:48 PM): (:
spies6Kirsten (9:07:40 PM): I had a lengthy chat with her, and she mentioned that she found me citizen at the end of it, but I do not know specifically the reason she changed her mind
spies6Georgia (9:07:44 PM): I propose that everyone whom said they would vote for a specific person, gives at least one reason why. Otherwise it opens the door for bandwagoning much easier.
spies6Georgia (9:07:44 PM): I could attempt to argue for her, if that is what you want.
spies6pete (9:07:44 PM): and Id also like to point out that even if somehow amelia got an immunity and was set up for some of 'framing' WHY amelia? why pick amelia to be framed? surely pick someone a bit more prominent and get a bigger player out of the game
spies6rey (9:08:06 PM): wait, i forgot to say something. the fact that two people are allowed to veto a vote essentially makes exiling a spy this round extremely difficult since spies will likely veto an exile on a partner.
spies6levi (9:08:13 PM): Because Amelia is quiet
spies6levi (9:08:16 PM): She lurks
spies6rey (9:08:19 PM): unless of course, not all the spies are in here.
spies6levi (9:08:21 PM): No one knows what's in her head
spies6jenya (9:08:28 PM): I propose that we ask Pete quick questions about Amelia.
spies6pete (9:08:51 PM): if anything, at the time of this occurring, at least for me, amelias posts were a bit off, sure I admit, they seem a bt more on track now, but people are forgetting taht AT THE TIME, it didnt make sense to frame amelia
spies6rey (9:08:55 PM): we are doing that anyways.
spies6Kirsten (9:09:03 PM): Pete: Counterpoint to that: If Iris did give out immunity, she would have given it out early in the game (episode 1) and would want to give it to someone who wasn't likely to be an imprisonment or exile choice (so a lurker)
spies6rey (9:09:48 PM): i doubt she would claim to have used the role day one if she was able to use it later.
spies6Georgia (9:09:58 PM): Iris did say she chose Donald for his face, Perhaps she "chose" amelia because of her hair. and Callhan because of his faith.
spies6Georgia (9:10:16 PM): *Callahan
spies6Kirsten (9:10:31 PM): In other words, the only way Amelia is framed is if she actually did get the imprisonment immunity. The only way that is true is if she got it day 1. At that point, Amelia was a good pick for the spies, because she wasn't someone they would have to worry about actually using it.
spies6pete (9:10:38 PM): you also forget that spies could lie, who says that even if iris did give out things, she had to give it out round one like she claimed?
spies6jenya (9:10:46 PM): Pete, what would you say is the biggest piece of evidence against Amelia?
spies6Tiberius (9:10:53 PM) has left the room.
spies6pete (9:10:53 PM): the 45 minute change
spies6Tiberius (9:10:59 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Boris (9:11:09 PM): checking in
spies6Kirsten (9:11:23 PM): 15 minutes 3 seconds....boris dies!
spies6pete (9:11:34 PM): that is easily the biggest, and the other things Im saying are just so you all dont go focusing on one thing, there are other reasons to vote for her too, even if they are slightly small
spies6jenya (9:11:37 PM): spies6MeiYun: fsdadfsdfd
spies6rey (9:11:38 PM): postpost.
spies6levi (9:11:44 PM): ROFL JENYA
spies6rey (9:11:54 PM): ariel, where art thou?
spies6levi (9:11:54 PM): Mei
sPIEs6Jason (9:11:54 PM): Lol Jneya
spies6Georgia (9:11:59 PM): Also, that Iris had all of this time to think about it and gather information. So what she told everyone; doesn't have to be the truth. She could've "picked" those choices due to what happened since the beginning of the game, to when she "revealed" her r"role".
spies6pete (9:12:00 PM): ok, so, Im done, unless you have any more questions?
spies6jenya (9:12:01 PM): Pete can you explain the 45 min thing in your own words?
spies6pete (9:12:22 PM): well, actually jenya, I found the 45 minute thing
spies6Ariel (9:12:51 PM): (I am back.)
spies6pete (9:12:58 PM): amelia went from thinking that she didnt like that two people up for exile as candidates, to thinking they were good choices
spies6Georgia (9:13:01 PM): Ariel needs to be prodded, lest she forfeit her vote.
spies6levi (9:13:18 PM): (I am back.(
spies6levi (9:13:19 PM): )
spies6Ariel (9:13:20 PM): (Sweaty, but back. Will be AWOL momentarily while I reread.)
spies6rey (9:13:27 PM): (I am back.)
spies6jenya (9:13:27 PM): Ok, thanks Pete.
spies6gretchen2 (9:13:29 PM): brb
sPIEs6Jason (9:13:30 PM): (Hmm Ariel so make me so hot for you)
spies6levi (9:13:48 PM): *awkward silence #666*
spies6Kirsten (9:13:56 PM): that's an ominous awkward silence
spies6pete (9:14:03 PM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (9:14:04 PM): How did you find the 45 minute thing Pete?
spies6Kirsten (9:14:04 PM): Any more question for pete?
sPIEs6Jason (9:14:05 PM): And it wasn't even Leave Eye
spies6Kirsten (9:14:07 PM): or...
spies6Georgia (9:14:08 PM): ?
spies6rey (9:14:09 PM): noooo.
spies6levi (9:14:12 PM): Lol
spies6rey (9:14:14 PM): he couldn't take the pressure!
sPIEs6Jason (9:14:23 PM): I.... guess Pete's done? lol
spies6levi (9:14:25 PM): That WAS an ominous awkward silence
spies6Kirsten (9:14:29 PM): It was
spies6levi (9:14:31 PM): And it didn't end well for Pete
spies6levi (9:14:33 PM):
spies6rey (9:14:35 PM): hurry back pete!
spies6rey (9:14:36 PM): D:
spies6Georgia (9:14:42 PM): He is still online though.
spies6rey (9:14:45 PM): oh.
spies6Kirsten (9:14:49 PM): In the meantime, anyone else have more information to present either for or against Amelia?
spies6Georgia (9:14:51 PM): Viewers, quit kicking people out of the spies6 room.
spies6rey (9:15:00 PM): to answer the question for pete,
spies6rey (9:15:10 PM): i sent him a conversation with amelia of mine.
spies6rey (9:15:17 PM): that is how he found that amelia change.
spies6Georgia (9:15:36 PM): I propose that the other Amelia voters, say their opinion.
sPIEs6Jason (9:15:42 PM): Amelia hasn't given a single solid suspicion all game other than Donald who was a Spy, but she was almsot *too* sure about him
spies6Georgia (9:15:46 PM): Why didyou send him it?
spies6rey (9:16:14 PM): i told him that i suspected her, and he said that he never had the chance to speak with her.
spies6Georgia (9:16:19 PM): Okay.
spies6Georgia (9:16:29 PM): What is a "solid suspicion" Jason?
spies6rey (9:16:29 PM): therefore, he asked me for the chat to get a .. 3rd person view?
spies6rey (9:16:53 PM): jason, you can't suspect amelia for that. levi, gretchen, oswald, and others have been the same basically.
sPIEs6Jason (9:16:56 PM): Anything other than "Vote: <insert urprising name here>"
spies6Ariel (9:17:04 PM): I would like to present a proposal to the group.
spies6Tiberius (9:17:07 PM): postpost
spies6Boris (9:17:09 PM): please do
spies6rey (9:17:10 PM): postpost.
sPIEs6Jason (9:17:16 PM): I know, Rey, and I worry about Levi and Gretchen for the same reasons -_-
spies6Kirsten (9:17:16 PM): Go ahead, Ariel
spies6rey (9:17:25 PM): haha okay, good jason. *pat*
spies6Georgia (9:17:33 PM): I think she has "voiced" suspicions against other people.
spies6Ariel (9:17:34 PM): I would like to propose that, should someone lose their vote regarding Sam's new rules, that their previous Pre-Exile vote be used.
spies6rey (9:17:55 PM): levi ask sam if that is a valid proposal.
spies6Boris (9:18:05 PM): levi?
spies6jenya (9:18:08 PM): BLOCK
spies6levi (9:18:09 PM): He's away from his computer
spies6Boris (9:18:12 PM): haha
spies6Ariel (9:18:14 PM): It's valid. Sam specifically said that it was our meeting, and that we could conduct how we saw fit.
spies6Georgia (9:18:15 PM): Wouldn't that negate the entire purpose of forfeiting their vote due to inactivity?
spies6rey (9:18:19 PM): well then i will BLOCK for now.
spies6Boris (9:18:23 PM): block
spies6Kirsten (9:18:25 PM): I believe that negates the entire point of Sam's announcement
spies6Ariel (9:18:35 PM): ...Okay, fine.
spies6levi (9:18:40 PM): I find it interesting
spies6jenya (9:18:42 PM): We need unanymity
spies6rey (9:18:43 PM): *pat pat* it's okay.
spies6levi (9:18:45 PM): That Rey blocked that
spies6jenya (9:18:49 PM): And we can't have unanimity without everyone here.
spies6levi (9:18:50 PM): And so did Boris
spies6Kirsten (9:18:51 PM): I will BLOCK anyway
spies6levi (9:18:55 PM): *resumes afkness*
spies6Boris (9:18:55 PM): and kirsten
spies6rey (9:18:58 PM): levi.
spies6Kirsten (9:18:58 PM): because I agree with Jenya
spies6rey (9:19:00 PM): are you stupid?
spies6Ariel (9:19:11 PM): It's been blocked already, Kirsten, but thanks for your overwhelming support.
spies6rey (9:19:15 PM): i had no votes for me, therefore it would be GOOD for me to have that proposal go on.
spies6levi (9:19:20 PM): LOL Ariel
spies6levi (9:19:21 PM): Rey
spies6Kirsten (9:19:22 PM): Anything I can do to keep you ground down into the ground, ARiel
sPIEs6Jason (9:19:24 PM): Guys I IM'ed Pete to ask him why he's not in the chat and he says that he can't get back in
spies6rey (9:19:25 PM): *facepalm at the levi-character*
spies6levi (9:19:27 PM): you had pleany of votes for you
spies6rey (9:19:35 PM): huh?
spies6Kirsten (9:19:36 PM): Tell him to relog, Jason
spies6rey (9:19:38 PM): levi, did i?
spies6Georgia (9:19:42 PM): The other Amelia voters. Why would you vote for her?
sPIEs6Jason (9:19:42 PM): I did lol as you can see
spies6rey (9:19:46 PM): LOL@LEVI
spies6rey (9:19:49 PM): OH
spies6pete (9:19:54 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (9:19:56 PM): you mean the votes from up there?
spies6pete (9:19:57 PM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (9:19:59 PM): nooo
spies6rey (9:20:04 PM): i thought you guys meant from LAST EXILE.
spies6levi (9:20:04 PM): Unless I'm misunderstanding the votes that Ariel is mentioning
spies6rey (9:20:05 PM): LOL.
spies6Ariel (9:20:09 PM): Pre-Exile votes, Rey.
spies6rey (9:20:12 PM): oh, haha.
spies6rey (9:20:13 PM): my bad.
spies6pete (9:20:16 PM) has entered the room.
spies6pete (9:20:18 PM) has left the room.
spies6levi (9:20:20 PM): Yep, I'm the stupid one
spies6Boris (9:20:25 PM): i count that as him checking in
spies6levi (9:20:28 PM): Way to grace us with your presence Pete
spies6Georgia (9:20:29 PM): Tiberius? Boris?
spies6rey (9:20:29 PM): i'm glad you realized that, haha.
spies6Boris (9:20:32 PM): what?
spies6gretchen2 (9:20:38 PM): back
spies6Georgia (9:20:39 PM): Why would you vote for Amelia?
spies6Kirsten (9:20:39 PM): Why would you vote Amelia?
spies6pete (9:20:46 PM) has entered the room.
spies6pete (9:20:56 PM): right, am I in?
spies6Kirsten (9:20:57 PM): Yay, Pete.
spies6Kirsten (9:21:00 PM): success
spies6Georgia (9:21:01 PM): Hi Pete.
spies6pete (9:21:02 PM): YAY I LIVE
spies6rey (9:21:03 PM): Yay, Pete.
spies6rey (9:21:05 PM): success
spies6Georgia (9:21:08 PM): You are orange instead of green
spies6pete (9:21:10 PM): sorry about that
spies6levi (9:21:15 PM): I have him orange as well
spies6Boris (9:21:17 PM): aside from everything that's been said, I don't want to have to deal with thinking about the role thing invovling Iris later on in the game
spies6Ariel (9:21:21 PM): What is the topic right now?
spies6Ariel (9:21:24 PM): We're clusterfucking again.
spies6pete (9:21:24 PM): ok, so did I miss anything?
spies6Georgia (9:21:39 PM): Boris is saying why he would vote for Amelia.
spies6Boris (9:21:43 PM): and the thing with her changing her mind the faith/william exile
spies6Boris (9:21:48 PM): end
spies6Kirsten (9:21:49 PM): We're discussing Boris' vote on Amelia
spies6pete (9:21:56 PM): ok
spies6jenya (9:21:59 PM): Boris, who's your next candidate or two after Amelia?
spies6Ariel (9:22:07 PM): So Boris would vote Amelia because he doesn't want to have to think?
spies6Boris (9:22:09 PM): rey is underneath her
spies6Ariel (9:22:11 PM): Got it.
spies6rey (9:22:13 PM): Proposal: we have everyone here discuss why the are voting for rey, and let him address their concerns.
spies6Georgia (9:22:15 PM): So you'd vote for Amelia, just to get that whole situation off the table?
spies6Boris (9:22:18 PM): thank you for being depricating ariel
spies6gretchen2 (9:22:18 PM): can i go after boris? i will have to leave soon.
spies6Kirsten (9:22:19 PM): Boris is a mediocre cit
spies6levi (9:22:30 PM): I second Rey
spies6jenya (9:22:33 PM): Boris is a spy.
spies6pete (9:22:34 PM): second rey
spies6pete (9:22:37 PM): ok, I third rey
spies6Boris (9:22:38 PM): thanks
spies6Kirsten (9:22:46 PM): BLOCK
spies6Boris (9:22:47 PM): i'm just really tired of all this
spies6Ariel (9:22:47 PM): I BLOCK.
spies6levi (9:22:50 PM): Jenya, I agree with you on that
spies6Georgia (9:22:53 PM): I second Gretchen's request
spies6Kirsten (9:22:53 PM): but Proposal to discuss Rey is not put to a vote
spies6jenya (9:22:56 PM): Boris, you hate this game?
spies6Kirsten (9:22:58 PM): third Gretchen's request
spies6Boris (9:23:00 PM): no,THIS
spies6rey (9:23:03 PM): huh?
spies6Boris (9:23:06 PM): it's taking a really long time
spies6rey (9:23:11 PM): there is only two blocks.
spies6Georgia (9:23:16 PM): Yes vote on Gretchen's request.
spies6levi (9:23:18 PM): What is Gretchen's request?
spies6Kirsten (9:23:19 PM): err, I meant put to a vote
spies6Ariel (9:23:19 PM): Gretchen needs to leave.
spies6Boris (9:23:23 PM): fine, gretchen
spies6Boris (9:23:24 PM): talk
spies6gretchen2 (9:23:25 PM): that i go after boris
spies6levi (9:23:27 PM): Ok
spies6gretchen2 (9:23:28 PM): when he is done
spies6rey (9:23:32 PM): i find it funny how kirsten and ariel both don't want me to be able to defend myself.
spies6Boris (9:23:32 PM): I AM DONE
spies6rey (9:23:34 PM):
spies6Ariel (9:23:37 PM): ...This is going to take a while to note down.
spies6levi (9:23:38 PM): Yes to Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (9:23:45 PM): No, Rey I want Grettchen to talk before she leaves
spies6Kirsten (9:23:47 PM): you'll have your turn
spies6Ariel (9:23:50 PM): Rey, I'm fine with you defending yourself, but Gretchen needs to go first.
spies6rey (9:23:53 PM): no kirsten, you blocked before her.
spies6rey (9:23:55 PM): did you not?
spies6Ariel (9:24:01 PM): No, she didn't.
spies6Kirsten (9:24:05 PM): I blocked the proposal for you to discuss yourself now
spies6rey (9:24:09 PM): oh, okay.
spies6levi (9:24:10 PM): No she did not
spies6levi (9:24:15 PM): Way to misrepresent
spies6Kirsten (9:24:16 PM): and submitted the proposal that Gretchen talks
spies6Boris (9:24:18 PM): gretchen, please just go
spies6gretchen2 (9:24:19 PM): i will be here for a little while longer, but i will have to leave in about 20 mins and i'd rather get my part out of the way.
spies6rey (9:24:25 PM): i giggled at levi, as usual.
spies6rey (9:24:26 PM): anyways.
spies6Kirsten (9:24:27 PM): Gretchen, go for it
spies6rey (9:24:29 PM): alright, let's go with gretchen.
spies6Tiberius (9:24:32 PM): Just caught up am I to explain my vote?
spies6gretchen2 (9:24:33 PM): my vote?
spies6Boris (9:24:40 PM): no tiberius
spies6Kirsten (9:24:45 PM): (not yet, Tibby)
spies6Ariel (9:24:46 PM): With eleven people, 3 are required to block, so we really should have a vote on Rey.
spies6Boris (9:24:46 PM): go after me
spies6Tiberius (9:24:48 PM): (k)
spies6Ariel (9:24:57 PM): Unless someone else wants to block...?
spies6Boris (9:24:59 PM): block
spies6Boris (9:25:01 PM): gretchen go
spies6Kirsten (9:25:02 PM): blocked it is!
spies6gretchen2 (9:25:03 PM): block
spies6levi (9:25:03 PM): Gretchen's proposal came before Rey's
spies6rey (9:25:05 PM): huh?
spies6Tiberius (9:25:07 PM): block
spies6rey (9:25:09 PM): what are we talking about?
spies6levi (9:25:10 PM): So Gretchen's should go first
spies6Kirsten (9:25:13 PM): Ok, Gretchen go for it
spies6Ariel (9:25:14 PM): Alright, Gretchen's proposal passes.
spies6Tiberius (9:25:17 PM): i really want to hear the case on Rey boiled down before that
spies6Tiberius (9:25:21 PM): because I havent yet
spies6levi (9:25:24 PM): Tib
spies6Kirsten (9:25:25 PM): Rey's case will be discussed
spies6Boris (9:25:26 PM): gretchen, please just ask me a question
spies6Ariel (9:25:29 PM): Tiberius, Gretchen has to leave.
spies6Kirsten (9:25:30 PM): just not now, because gretchen needs to leave
spies6levi (9:25:31 PM): Trust me, it will definitely be discussed
spies6Kirsten (9:25:33 PM): Order in the court
spies6Kirsten (9:25:38 PM): Gretchen has the floor!
spies6Kirsten (9:25:39 PM): Bah1
spies6levi (9:25:41 PM): *jumps at the noise of the gavel*
spies6gretchen2 (9:25:47 PM): hah! nah i don't want to ask you anything boris! i meant for my choice! lol
spies6Kirsten (9:25:50 PM): Don't make me choke some bitches
spies6Kirsten (9:25:55 PM): because I will
spies6Boris (9:25:57 PM): ...
spies6rey (9:25:58 PM): check yourself. (:
spies6rey (9:26:00 PM): choke*
spies6Kirsten (9:26:02 PM):
spies6Boris (9:26:04 PM): does anyone else want to ask me something?
spies6gretchen2 (9:26:11 PM): i have no questions for Boris
spies6Boris (9:26:13 PM): or are you all just going to say i'm a spy
spies6Georgia (9:26:15 PM): (gretchen will say her piece. Tiberius will say his piece on Amelia. Then we will move on to the Rey voters.)
spies6Boris (9:26:15 PM): ?
spies6rey (9:26:26 PM): agreed with georgia.
spies6Boris (9:26:27 PM): no questions at all?
spies6Boris (9:26:35 PM): cool
spies6Kirsten (9:26:36 PM): How about Gretchen says her piece, we can go back to Boris, then on to Tiberius, then on to Rey?
spies6rey (9:26:38 PM): wait we are asking boris questions?
spies6rey (9:26:38 PM): o.O
spies6rey (9:26:44 PM): i thought this was about GRETCHEN.
spies6rey (9:26:45 PM): D:
spies6Kirsten (9:26:49 PM): I'd rather get Gretchen to do her thing while she's here
spies6Boris (9:26:51 PM): fine
spies6Georgia (9:26:53 PM): Second kirsten's.
spies6Boris (9:26:53 PM): go gretchen
spies6rey (9:26:59 PM): gogogogogretchen.
spies6Kirsten (9:27:22 PM): Gretchen, I think you should start by telling us why you would vote for Tiberius, then we can discuss it and ask you questions. Sound fair?
spies6gretchen2 (9:27:31 PM): ok. my vote is for mirela. it was for tiberius. but i think there's a chance people may swing over to mirela.
spies6Georgia (9:27:39 PM): -shakes head at the order sliding away-
spies6gretchen2 (9:27:40 PM): i can give reasons for both if you like.
spies6levi (9:27:49 PM): We would like
spies6rey (9:28:09 PM): mirela is an annoying old hag, but do you really think she is a spy?
spies6jenya (9:29:13 PM): I think if you don't give reasons you won't sway any votes, Gretchen. Your call.
spies6gretchen2 (9:29:13 PM): ok. well mirela, as khlaed pointed out, has a very bad voting record. she is also part of my original group. we have caught one spy out of that group, but there's of course a couple more. mirela didn't say stuff all at the start of the game, has somewhat argued a few points up until now, but hasn't actually contributed to any exiles as far as i know.
spies6gretchen2 (9:29:22 PM): i am typing ffs
spies6jenya (9:29:37 PM): Mirela was in Ariel's group.
spies6Ariel (9:29:38 PM): ...Gretchen, you weren't in Team Stronghold.
spies6Georgia (9:29:44 PM): Mirela isn't part of your original group.
spies6Ariel (9:29:53 PM): Plus, she was replaced.
spies6gretchen2 (9:29:54 PM): bah i got her confused with amelia. oops. oh well. strike that point.
spies6Kirsten (9:30:02 PM): it has been stricken
spies6gretchen2 (9:30:06 PM): ty
sPIEs6Jason (9:30:07 PM): To be fair Mirela was replaced so early game she probably didn't say anything because she wasn't active
spies6Ariel (9:30:26 PM): And Mirela was the main push on the Thor exile, as far as I know.
spies6gretchen2 (9:30:28 PM): why was she replaced? she has an important role? jocelyn wasn't replaced.
spies6levi (9:30:43 PM): Update
spies6levi (9:30:45 PM): Ariel
spies6Ariel (9:30:45 PM): Move to strike.
spies6gretchen2 (9:30:48 PM): there's something about her - i need to go back and do a bit more research.
spies6levi (9:30:51 PM): Sam denied your proposal from earlier
spies6gretchen2 (9:30:55 PM): but she's got my vote.
spies6Ariel (9:31:00 PM): It was already blocked, Levi, but thanks.
spies6gretchen2 (9:31:04 PM): not that i will be here to cast it anyway.
spies6levi (9:31:05 PM): About reusing votes from the pre-exile
spies6Kirsten (9:31:07 PM): And your stance on Tibby?
spies6levi (9:31:10 PM): Just saying it's now illegal
spies6Ariel (9:31:19 PM): (And I'm not surprised Sam denied it. I proposed it, after all. )
spies6rey (9:31:25 PM): postpost.
spies6Kirsten (9:31:28 PM): we're all out to get you Ariel
spies6Georgia (9:31:33 PM): tsk tsk Ariel.
spies6Ariel (9:31:34 PM): I know! It's lovely!
spies6Ariel (9:31:35 PM): <3
spies6gretchen2 (9:31:37 PM): ok. say I am a cit. now i know stuff all about the alliances and friendships in this game. even though kirsten thinks otherwise.
spies6Georgia (9:31:51 PM): So you aren't a citizen?
spies6Boris (9:31:57 PM): postpost
spies6gretchen2 (9:31:59 PM): i am not part of any cliques. i did not get any special messages from jenya.
spies6gretchen2 (9:32:12 PM): in fact i have a total of 6 pms in my inbox.
spies6gretchen2 (9:32:32 PM): in addition i am also never online at the same time as most of you, and don't get to talk to you as much as i should.
spies6gretchen2 (9:32:59 PM): so.... you could call me somewhat clueless to the comings and goings on the burg.
spies6Georgia (9:33:17 PM): What about your stance on Tiberius?
spies6gretchen2 (9:33:23 PM): however, i don't create weekly posts about "i have no idea what's going on or who i am going to vote"
spies6gretchen2 (9:33:27 PM): i am getting to it georgia
spies6gretchen2 (9:33:38 PM): and then suddenly jump on a bandwagon
spies6rey (9:33:40 PM): sounds like tibby, haha. no offense tibby.<3
spies6Tiberius (9:33:56 PM): none taken, that does sound like me
spies6gretchen2 (9:33:56 PM): i just get on with it and try and work it out to the best of my limited ability.
spies6gretchen2 (9:34:07 PM): it is about tiberius. as requested.
spies6Ariel (9:34:31 PM): (Note topic updated.)
spies6Boris (9:34:32 PM): Statement: i will be signing off in 30 to 45 minutes. My girlfriend is visiting and i can't ignore her for much longer
spies6gretchen2 (9:34:47 PM): i am a citizen, that is not how i act. i find tiberius' actions odd and not all that positive.
spies6rey (9:34:48 PM): boris after gretchen
spies6Ariel (9:34:54 PM): Seconded.
spies6Kirsten (9:34:56 PM): agreed
spies6levi (9:34:57 PM): . . . that sounds like he wishes to ignore her for much longer
spies6Georgia (9:35:00 PM): Third
spies6Ariel (9:35:10 PM): Motion passed.
spies6Georgia (9:35:23 PM): pstt. now it should go to a vote.
spies6gretchen2 (9:35:26 PM): i also don't see what cases he has put to anyone independently of someone else bringing it up first. and then trusting people? hah. i trust no one in this game.
spies6jenya (9:35:30 PM): Gretchen, how do you feel about Rey?
spies6Kirsten (9:35:32 PM): Gretchen, do you have more to add, or should we proceed to the questioning portion of this show?
spies6gretchen2 (9:35:44 PM): nope that's about it. my current thoughts.
spies6rey (9:35:52 PM): jenya is annoying for the record. xD<3
spies6gretchen2 (9:36:02 PM): to answer jenya, i think about the spies caught so far.
spies6levi (9:36:02 PM): I was gonna ask the same question
spies6levi (9:36:04 PM): Lol
spies6Ariel (9:36:10 PM): I was too...
spies6Kirsten (9:36:15 PM): I wasn't
spies6rey (9:36:17 PM): me too. :\
spies6Georgia (9:36:20 PM): (be right back. restroom)
spies6rey (9:36:21 PM): .. NOT.
spies6levi (9:36:26 PM): *slams gavel for Kirsten*
spies6gretchen2 (9:36:27 PM): none of them have really gone out of their way to find spies themselves have they? rey seems to be different from that format.
spies6Ariel (9:36:35 PM): Gretchen, what do you think of Khaled?
spies6jenya (9:36:37 PM): Which spies did Rey catch?
spies6rey (9:36:47 PM): almathea, yay!
spies6rey (9:36:49 PM): iris, yay!
spies6jenya (9:36:50 PM): That question is for Gretchen.
spies6rey (9:36:59 PM): i'm just yelling random names.
spies6rey (9:37:01 PM): don't mind me, haha.
spies6Kirsten (9:37:08 PM): Let's stick to Gretchen answering the questions directed to her
spies6Ariel (9:37:14 PM): In fact, maybe we should have a poll to see who thinks who caught which spies.
spies6gretchen2 (9:37:17 PM): i mean by posting ideas in the burg also. he was on the almathea vote i think. but i mean actually posting ideas, independent ideas, in the burg.
spies6rey (9:37:20 PM): i just felt like moaning out two hot spy names out.
spies6jenya (9:37:34 PM): What's an independent idea Rey had that led to catching a spy?
spies6rey (9:37:40 PM): iris, yay!
spies6rey (9:37:47 PM): almathea, yay!
spies6Kirsten (9:37:54 PM): Rey...
spies6gretchen2 (9:38:00 PM): khaled i have absolutely no idea. i tried to talk to him once but he just asked me one question and then pissed off.
spies6Ariel (9:38:00 PM): Proposal: Kirsten uses her silencing power to put Rey on probation.
spies6levi (9:38:00 PM): Yep, Rey was remembering what happened with him and those two in the Spy HQ
spies6rey (9:38:02 PM): i'm day dreaming, leave me alone.
spies6gretchen2 (9:38:04 PM): so he is just odd.
spies6levi (9:38:13 PM): BLOCK
spies6gretchen2 (9:38:15 PM): and rey came up with the iris idea didn't he?
spies6rey (9:38:23 PM): shh gretchen, don't tell her that.
spies6jenya (9:38:26 PM): Gretchen, which Spy did Rey most contribute to "catching"?
spies6jenya (9:38:32 PM): No, he didn't.
spies6Boris (9:38:32 PM): block
spies6rey (9:38:38 PM): can i BLOCK?
spies6gretchen2 (9:38:41 PM): isn't that where the whole "supercit" idea came from you brought up jenya?
spies6rey (9:38:42 PM): wait, i just did. ;_;
spies6Kirsten (9:38:43 PM): yes, you can, Rey
spies6Kirsten (9:38:57 PM): it's been blocked. But I'll repropose it if you keep answering for other people
spies6jenya (9:38:58 PM): Rey has given us cits, not spies.
spies6gretchen2 (9:39:03 PM): almathea i would guess. from memory.
spies6Ariel (9:39:04 PM): -Ariel refrains from posting any more proposals-
spies6jenya (9:39:16 PM): Didn't you say this, Gretchen:
spies6rey (9:39:16 PM): jeny- *waits for gretchen to finish*
spies6jenya (9:39:18 PM): "I don't know what happened in the chat room after I left this morning, but Rey is acting like he lost a brother today, and was completely sure Thor was not a Spy. If I was so sure, and I was online, and I had 6 hours and knew at least 2 people were planning to vote for my friend, I would be on AIM asking people about their votes. That what I would do anyway. Because I wouldn't want him exiled. "
spies6levi (9:39:22 PM): -disappointed Eb-
spies6gretchen2 (9:39:36 PM): what's your point jenya?
spies6jenya (9:39:52 PM): You said he works to catch spies, but there you said he didn't work to defend his friend.
spies6levi (9:39:55 PM): I see what Jenya is getting at
spies6rey (9:40:04 PM): -irritating high pitched squeel-
spies6Kirsten (9:40:22 PM): You'll have your turn, Rey
spies6jenya (9:40:25 PM): Gretchen, did you read the case on Rey in the Burg?
spies6jenya (9:40:30 PM): It's 7 chapters.
spies6gretchen2 (9:40:35 PM): i am saying that he actively posts in the burg his independent thoughts and ideas. whether they help catch a spy or exile a citizen. i am saying none of the other spies we have caught have done that.
spies6levi (9:40:36 PM): It's a good read
spies6levi (9:40:47 PM): Top of the Burg Times Best Seller List
spies6Kirsten (9:40:50 PM): Gretchen, I have a question for you:
spies6rey (9:40:57 PM): nah, it's pretty low.
spies6gretchen2 (9:41:06 PM): i have read some of it. i will read it all at some point. if needed. i actually thought i would be gone by now tbh.
spies6rey (9:41:13 PM): i hear that meeting minutes is a best seller right now.
spies6gretchen2 (9:41:15 PM): go for it kirsten.
spies6levi (9:41:33 PM): Burg Times Best Seller List =/= Rey Approval List
spies6Kirsten (9:41:35 PM): You seem to base a lot of your opinions based on 'how you would play as X or Y, or how others have done it beforehand". Considering everyone has a different playstyle, how is this an effective determinator of spy or citizen?
spies6rey (9:41:40 PM): no levi.
spies6rey (9:41:44 PM): you don't get the joke.
spies6rey (9:41:47 PM): nevermind! (:
spies6Ariel (9:41:51 PM): Could you both please be quiet?
spies6levi (9:41:59 PM): *shuts up*
spies6rey (9:42:06 PM): *shuts down*
spies6Georgia (9:42:08 PM): Take the useless chatter to private.
spies6rey (9:42:09 PM) has left the room.
spies6Ariel (9:42:22 PM): Also, I'd like to motion for a prod on Pete.
spies6gretchen2 (9:42:23 PM): that's the only way i can play. it worked with donald - when you pointed out the stuff about william i switched to donald because that's how i would play it.
spies6Georgia (9:42:24 PM): Rey is purposely forfeiting his vote?
spies6Ariel (9:42:29 PM): It's been twenty minutes since he said anything.
spies6Georgia (9:42:36 PM): Then he forfeited his vote.
spies6pete (9:42:40 PM): chat chat talk
spies6rey (9:42:41 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (9:42:49 PM): woah, that was bad.
spies6rey (9:42:50 PM):
spies6levi (9:42:51 PM): No, it had to be 15 minutes to forfeit a vote
spies6levi (9:42:54 PM): Dang
spies6levi (9:42:56 PM): He's green now
spies6levi (9:42:57 PM):
spies6rey (9:42:59 PM): YAY!
spies6Ariel (9:43:09 PM): Levi, ask Sam if Pete's vote has been forfeited?
spies6gretchen2 (9:43:09 PM): anything else? i need to dry my hair.
spies6rey (9:43:10 PM): brb though.
spies6Ariel (9:43:13 PM): I thought we were entitled to a prod.
spies6levi (9:43:22 PM): Asked it
spies6Georgia (9:43:26 PM): I think it meant within those 15 minutes?
spies6pete (9:43:28 PM): i thought it had to be 15 minutes after being prodded?
spies6Tiberius (9:43:28 PM): postpost
spies6Kirsten (9:43:29 PM): He responded immediately after a prod
spies6Kirsten (9:43:35 PM): I think his vote is still good
spies6Ariel (9:43:42 PM): I do too, but I'd like to clarify.
spies6Georgia (9:43:45 PM): Oh was it?
spies6pete (9:43:48 PM): ive been here the entire time and listening, if I get removed from voting I will be very annoyed
spies6gretchen2 (9:44:00 PM): i will take that as a no then.
spies6Kirsten (9:44:02 PM): I think it would be unfair to make players have to post something every 15 minutes, even when discussion is revolving elsewhere
spies6Boris (9:44:09 PM): does anyone have any more questions for gretchen?
spies6levi (9:44:09 PM): Second
spies6Ariel (9:44:17 PM): Thank you for your time, Gretchen.
spies6gretchen2 (9:44:22 PM): np
spies6rey (9:44:24 PM): back.
spies6gretchen2 (9:44:25 PM): good luck.
spies6gretchen2 (9:44:30 PM): you will need it today!
spies6Kirsten (9:44:36 PM): thanks. Have a good day, Gretchen
spies6gretchen2 (9:44:40 PM): ty
spies6Boris (9:44:42 PM): can i go now?
spies6rey (9:44:48 PM): bye gretchen!
spies6Kirsten (9:44:50 PM): Yes
spies6Boris (9:44:52 PM): and bye gretchen?
spies6gretchen2 (9:44:53 PM) has left the room.
spies6rey (9:44:53 PM): boris, it's your turn! (:
spies6Boris (9:45:01 PM): hoofuckingray
spies6Kirsten (9:45:09 PM): hooRey?
spies6rey (9:45:14 PM): hooray!
spies6levi (9:45:15 PM): I don't know who is fucking Rey
spies6Ariel (9:45:18 PM): Thor is.
spies6Boris (9:45:20 PM): RAY
spies6levi (9:45:21 PM): Sorry that I can't be of more assistance
spies6Boris (9:45:21 PM): not rey
spies6Georgia (9:45:24 PM): Ray =/= Rey
spies6Boris (9:45:28 PM): ON TOPIC
spies6levi (9:45:29 PM): You didn't get the joke
spies6Boris (9:45:32 PM): ASK ME QUESTIONS
spies6rey (9:45:35 PM): i get it levi.
spies6Boris (9:45:37 PM): NOW
spies6Ariel (9:45:38 PM): Boris, what do you think of Khaled?
sPIEs6Jason (9:45:44 PM): Boris are you a Spy?
spies6rey (9:45:45 PM): i just don't like you go i'm not going to laugh at your jokes. hmph!
spies6Georgia (9:45:49 PM): I thought it was Boris on Amelia.
spies6Georgia (9:45:51 PM): Topic
spies6Boris (9:45:53 PM): it was
spies6Ariel (9:45:56 PM): Oh.
spies6Boris (9:45:57 PM): and i posted about her
spies6Boris (9:46:05 PM): and then you all called me a spy
spies6Ariel (9:46:07 PM): Facilitator, what is the topic?
spies6Boris (9:46:10 PM): that was all that had happened
spies6Kirsten (9:46:10 PM): I think we moved on to general questioning of Boris
spies6Georgia (9:46:13 PM): Then shouldn't people be asking him questions about Amelia?
spies6Ariel (9:46:16 PM): Alright, then my question stands.
spies6Kirsten (9:46:25 PM): How about this
spies6Kirsten (9:46:31 PM): WE discuss first any questions regarding Amelia
spies6Boris (9:46:32 PM): ugh, fuck, i don't think much about khaled, but i don't think he's a spy
spies6Kirsten (9:46:36 PM): then any questions about Boris period
spies6Boris (9:46:48 PM): i have to leave soon kirsten
spies6Kirsten (9:46:52 PM): ok
spies6rey (9:46:56 PM): i hope he isn't a spy, i told him my reward from the challenge.
spies6rey (9:47:02 PM): then again.. ariel told kirsten, so meh.
spies6rey (9:47:07 PM): it's probably with all the spies by now.
spies6Georgia (9:47:15 PM): Ariel essentially told everyon, Rey.
spies6rey (9:47:21 PM): did she? D:
spies6Ariel (9:47:22 PM): I didn't tell anyone...
spies6Ariel (9:47:26 PM): At least, I don't remember doing so.

[Judge Sam]

spies6Boris (9:47:27 PM): OFF TOPIC
spies6Boris (9:47:29 PM): BACK TO ME
spies6rey (9:47:30 PM): ew, i was going to use it to catch a spy for us..
spies6rey (9:47:31 PM): bitch.
spies6Georgia (9:47:32 PM): Oh, not about yours. I read that as she told about her own.
spies6Kirsten (9:47:34 PM): This is off topic
spies6Boris (9:47:34 PM): STOP
spies6levi (9:47:36 PM): Boris is getin cranky
spies6Kirsten (9:47:39 PM): Questions about Boris
spies6Kirsten (9:47:45 PM): Boris, who are your next two suspects after Amelia
spies6Boris (9:47:55 PM): rey
spies6Georgia (9:47:56 PM): *prods Empath*
spies6Boris (9:48:06 PM): i haven't thought much about anyone after him
spies6rey (9:48:06 PM): why not me first boris?
spies6rey (9:48:15 PM): i certainly have more evidence against me rather than amelia.
spies6rey (9:48:56 PM): why does the evidence against amelia out weigh the case that jenya laid upon me in the forums?
spies6rey (9:49:05 PM): there is no case on amelia in the forums.
spies6Boris (9:49:20 PM): because i want to exile amelia more
spies6Ariel (9:49:23 PM): Why?
spies6Boris (9:49:29 PM): because i just do
spies6rey (9:49:35 PM): so essentially we could both be citizens and you don't care the order we leave?
spies6Boris (9:49:40 PM): nope
spies6Georgia (9:49:43 PM): Because he wants to eliminate the Iris/Amelia situation off of the table?
spies6Boris (9:49:46 PM): yes
spies6rey (9:49:50 PM): ah, okay.
spies6Boris (9:49:53 PM): the nope was pithy
spies6Tiberius (9:49:54 PM): wow.. lol
spies6Boris (9:50:02 PM): ignore it
spies6Georgia (9:50:34 PM): Why aren't you concerned about voting off one whom could be a citizen?
spies6Boris (9:51:01 PM): who are we talking about?
spies6Ariel (9:51:08 PM): Rey and Amelia.
spies6Georgia (9:51:18 PM): Is not the ultimate goal, to vote off and eliminate the Spies?
spies6rey (9:51:29 PM): that's not his goal.
spies6Boris (9:51:32 PM): because i can't ever be 100% certain
spies6rey (9:51:34 PM): kidding boris~
spies6Georgia (9:51:35 PM): Not fellow players who just "annoy" you... or whatever reason?
spies6rey (9:51:43 PM): georgia, you are thinking of roxy.
spies6Boris (9:51:48 PM): who said i would vote for someone who annoy's me?
spies6Georgia (9:51:52 PM): No, I'm not.
spies6rey (9:52:13 PM): roxy/levi *
spies6Boris (9:52:16 PM): georgia, when have i said i would do that?
spies6Georgia (9:52:17 PM): You said as one of your reasons for wanting to vote off Amelia. Was because you didn't want to deal with the Iris/Amelia situation further along.
spies6rey (9:52:18 PM): sorry, my bad, haha.
spies6levi (9:52:31 PM): Who said I would vote based on who annoys me?
spies6Boris (9:52:37 PM): i don't want to have to deal with her being around end game with that hanging over her head
spies6Georgia (9:52:57 PM): Why?
spies6rey (9:53:06 PM): so you are assuming she is a citizen by that statement...
spies6Ariel (9:53:08 PM): So why not vote Rey before Amelia, Boris? If you don't care which of them goes first?
spies6Boris (9:53:08 PM): because it would be a major distraction
sPIEs6Jason (9:53:15 PM): That's a bad reason to exile someone
spies6rey (9:53:18 PM): he never said that ariel, way to misrep.
spies6Georgia (9:53:30 PM): Why would a Spy have an imprisonment immunity?
spies6Boris (9:53:30 PM): fine
spies6rey (9:53:31 PM): he specifically said he wanted amelia out first.
spies6Kirsten (9:53:37 PM): Boris, what do you think about Iris pressuring Callahan to claim a role? To my knowledge she has not done that with a single other player. Do you think that implies she did give him a gift?
spies6Ariel (9:53:48 PM):
spies6rey (9:49:41 PM): so essentially we could both be citizens and you don't care the order we leave?

spies6Boris (9:49:46 PM): nope
spies6Boris (9:53:54 PM): i later said it was pithy ariel
spies6Ariel (9:53:58 PM): Yes, you did.
spies6rey (9:54:00 PM): that was a question to boris, and he said nope.
spies6Ariel (9:54:01 PM): But you still said it.
spies6Boris (9:54:08 PM): i'm ignoreing your question
spies6Boris (9:54:16 PM): because it was a joke
spies6Ariel (9:54:23 PM): My question is still valid.
spies6Ariel (9:54:26 PM): Why vote Amelia over Rey?
spies6Boris (9:54:28 PM): good for you
spies6rey (9:54:39 PM): ariel, you didn't even ask that question until now.
spies6Georgia (9:54:39 PM): Please answer my question, and Kirsten's question. If you are to ignore Ariel's.
spies6Boris (9:54:41 PM): hold on, stop
spies6jenya (9:54:44 PM): Why not Rey now Amelia next week?
spies6Boris (9:54:45 PM): i have three people asking me questions
spies6Ariel (9:54:47 PM): spies6Ariel (9:53:14 PM): So why not vote Rey before Amelia,
spies6Boris (9:54:49 PM): STO[
spies6Boris (9:54:50 PM): STOP
spies6Kirsten (9:54:53 PM): STOP
spies6Boris (9:54:58 PM): now it's four
spies6Kirsten (9:54:59 PM): no more questions, let him catch up
spies6jenya (9:55:00 PM): Hammah time.
spies6rey (9:55:04 PM): and jenya-weirdo has to pop in and re-state and already asked question.
spies6Ariel (9:55:06 PM): Dow, now nownownow.
spies6rey (9:55:08 PM): an*
spies6Ariel (9:55:14 PM): Can we PLEASE silence Rey.
spies6Boris (9:55:17 PM): which question first
spies6Boris (9:55:20 PM): block
spies6Georgia (9:55:21 PM): Jason.
spies6levi (9:55:23 PM): Proposal: Silence Rey
spies6Ariel (9:55:27 PM): Seconded
spies6Georgia (9:55:28 PM): Empath's job is needed.
spies6rey (9:55:30 PM): block, haha.
spies6Georgia (9:55:31 PM): Block
spies6pete (9:55:34 PM): block
spies6Boris (9:55:34 PM): which question to i answer first
sPIEs6Jason (9:55:35 PM): Ugh lol
sPIEs6Jason (9:55:38 PM): Making me do work
spies6Kirsten (9:55:40 PM): Boris, start with Georgia's question
spies6Tiberius (9:55:43 PM): block
spies6Kirsten (9:55:43 PM): then answer mine
spies6levi (9:55:45 PM): Proposal: Empath take action against Rey
spies6Boris (9:55:48 PM): what was her question
spies6Ariel (9:55:50 PM): Seconded
spies6Kirsten (9:55:51 PM): Proposal has been blocked
spies6Georgia (9:55:52 PM): Block
spies6rey (9:55:56 PM): block
spies6Boris (9:55:57 PM): block
spies6Boris (9:55:59 PM): stay on topic
sPIEs6Jason (9:56:00 PM): I'll talk to Rey in IMs
spies6Boris (9:56:01 PM): please
spies6Kirsten (9:56:01 PM): Ok, we're not silencing Rey
spies6Georgia (9:56:03 PM): Why would a Spy have imprisonment immunity
spies6Georgia (9:56:06 PM): ?
spies6levi (9:56:07 PM): Thank you Jason
spies6Ariel (9:56:13 PM): (Does it surprise anyone that Rey, Boris, and Georgia continually block anything bad for Rey?)
spies6Kirsten (9:56:17 PM): Everyone except Boris should be silent now
spies6rey (9:56:20 PM): not really.
spies6Boris (9:56:20 PM): so that a citizen wont
spies6rey (9:56:26 PM): georgia is the DA, and boris is cool.
spies6rey (9:56:27 PM): <3
spies6jenya (9:56:29 PM): Ooh good point Georgia, why not give it to a Citizen to butter them up!
spies6Georgia (9:56:32 PM): That isn't the point Ariel. You are purposefully trying to hinder one's voice.
spies6Boris (9:56:51 PM): STAY ON TOPIC
spies6rey (9:56:57 PM): STAY ON TOPIC
spies6Ariel (9:56:57 PM): Yes, I am, because he's spamming and detracting from actual discussion.
spies6Kirsten (9:56:58 PM): OK, is Boris done answering Georgia's question?
spies6Boris (9:57:05 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (9:57:06 PM): Boris, what do you think about Iris pressuring Callahan to claim a role? To my knowledge she has not done that with a single other player. Do you think that implies she did give him a gift?
spies6Georgia (9:57:24 PM): That isn't really an answer.
spies6Boris (9:57:29 PM): ugh
spies6Georgia (9:57:35 PM): Why would a Spy need imprisonment immunity?
spies6Boris (9:57:43 PM): i think a spy would have it if it had to be given out so that a citizen wouldn't be able to have it
spies6Boris (9:57:57 PM): and thus be one less immunity to worry about
spies6Georgia (9:57:58 PM): So you believe it was a gift from another person?
spies6Boris (9:58:12 PM): if it existed, yes
spies6Georgia (9:58:16 PM): A probably Spy?
spies6Georgia (9:58:20 PM): *probable
spies6Boris (9:58:32 PM): i don't know what you're asking now
spies6Georgia (9:58:51 PM): i think a spy would have it if it had to be given out so that a citizen wouldn't be able to have it < is whatyou said.
spies6Georgia (9:59:00 PM): Which, sort of implies that a Spy is giving it out.
spies6Boris (9:59:10 PM): well, if iris did give it out, then yes, it's true
spies6Georgia (9:59:38 PM): So why would a Spy be able to hand out an immunity. Wouldn't that kind of defeat the purpose of their task as a group? Imprisoning citizens?
spies6Tiberius (9:59:44 PM): postpost
spies6rey (9:59:46 PM): i propose that i am silenced so that i don't have to talk without losing my vote.
spies6Ariel (9:59:47 PM): (What happened to asking questions alphabetically?)
spies6pete (9:59:54 PM): post even though i havent been proded
spies6levi (9:59:57 PM): secong
spies6rey (9:59:58 PM): plus i'm unwanted anyways.
spies6levi (10:00:00 PM): *second
spies6Ariel (10:00:03 PM): Thirded.
spies6rey (10:00:06 PM): okay.
spies6rey (10:00:07 PM): now vote.
spies6Kirsten (10:00:08 PM): Boris, can you answer my question
spies6Ariel (10:00:12 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6levi (10:00:15 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6rey (10:00:15 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (10:00:16 PM): And we now vote on the proposal to silence Rey
spies6Georgia (10:00:21 PM): Block.
spies6jenya (10:00:29 PM): block
sPIEs6Jason (10:00:29 PM): Poor Rey
spies6levi (10:00:32 PM): Georgia
spies6Kirsten (10:00:33 PM): BLOCK
spies6pete (10:00:34 PM): block
sPIEs6Jason (10:00:35 PM): BLOCK I don't think silence is good
spies6levi (10:00:36 PM): He asked to be silenced himself
spies6Ariel (10:00:37 PM): ...Seriously?
spies6Kirsten (10:00:38 PM): It fails
spies6Ariel (10:00:43 PM): god.
spies6Boris (10:00:45 PM): georgia, it doesn't make sense
spies6levi (10:00:49 PM): So that he wouldn't have to talk
spies6Georgia (10:00:52 PM): Then he can go away on his own.
spies6Boris (10:00:54 PM): i'm not even sure if iris had a role
spies6Tiberius (10:00:55 PM): i may not like rey's comments but i'm blanketly agaisnt silencing
spies6pete (10:00:59 PM): if he wants to be silenced, then just he can choose to not talk himself
spies6levi (10:01:04 PM): Meh, either way he's gone
spies6rey (10:01:06 PM): i would rather not lose my vote.
spies6Boris (10:01:08 PM): it wouldn't make sense, but she knew about it, and no one else spoke up
spies6levi (10:01:10 PM): *quiet
spies6Kirsten (10:01:17 PM): Rey, you'll only lose your vote if you don't respond to a prod
spies6Kirsten (10:01:21 PM): in 15 minutes
spies6Georgia (10:01:22 PM): If he wants to be quiet, then he can choose to do it himself. Instead of putting the responsibility on the group of players. In a way insuring he doesn't have to add to discussion, while still retaining his vote.
spies6rey (10:01:27 PM): okay.
spies6levi (10:01:33 PM): Good poitn georgia
spies6Boris (10:01:37 PM): sigh
spies6Kirsten (10:01:43 PM): Boris, what do you think about Iris pressuring Callahan to claim a role? To my knowledge she has not done that with a single other player. Do you think that implies she did give him a gift?
spies6Boris (10:02:13 PM): in all honesty she probably didn't have a role, and was backpedalling to see if there was anything to strengthen her claim
spies6Kirsten (10:02:28 PM): backpedaling in episode 1?
spies6Kirsten (10:02:35 PM): 4 episdoes before she claimed?
spies6Boris (10:02:41 PM): no, backpedalling when she brought up her claim
spies6Boris (10:02:49 PM): and showed that as evidence
spies6jenya (10:02:57 PM): And Amelia played along?
spies6Kirsten (10:03:05 PM): OK, but she really did pressure Callahan to claim a role. Do you think she was just doing that to look cit?
spies6Boris (10:03:07 PM): whatever, backpedalling is the wrong word, but you know what i mean
spies6Boris (10:03:09 PM): probably yes
spies6Boris (10:03:16 PM): yes
spies6Boris (10:03:55 PM): any more questions, because i've been told i need to be done with this
spies6Kirsten (10:04:03 PM): I have no more
spies6levi (10:04:14 PM): I have no questions for Boris
spies6rey (10:04:19 PM): boris, why do you suspect me?
spies6Georgia (10:04:27 PM): -insert whipping sound-
spies6Boris (10:04:44 PM): the only thing that is strongly against you is the whole talking about jenya's fake role
spies6Ariel (10:04:46 PM): Boris, are you specifically "for" an Amelia exile, or are you "against" a Rey exile at this point in time?
spies6Boris (10:05:06 PM): more against rey
spies6rey (10:05:17 PM): okay so let's see an hypothetical situation boris.
spies6Boris (10:05:26 PM): but i still want amelia gone, like i did last episode
spies6Ariel (10:05:30 PM): Please explain why you are against a Rey exile.
spies6rey (10:05:32 PM): a player you were under the impression of having a role gets imprisoned.
spies6Ariel (10:05:33 PM): If you suspect him, as you claim.
spies6Boris (10:05:41 PM): stop
spies6rey (10:05:42 PM): and you are a talkative person like me.
spies6Boris (10:05:44 PM): two people talking
spies6rey (10:05:55 PM): would you not say in the burg that the person had a role?
spies6Kirsten (10:05:56 PM): Rey, wait a sec. Boris answer Ariel, then Rey
spies6rey (10:05:58 PM): and what it was?
spies6rey (10:05:59 PM): okay.
spies6jenya (10:06:01 PM): Boris, did you read my case against Rey?
spies6Boris (10:06:06 PM): shut up jenya
spies6Kirsten (10:06:09 PM): and then Jenya last
sPIEs6Jason (10:06:17 PM): Boris please be kind to others
spies6Boris (10:06:21 PM): fine
spies6Boris (10:06:25 PM): ariel, repeat your question
sPIEs6Jason (10:06:29 PM): There's no reason to be mean
spies6rey (10:06:32 PM): spies6Ariel (9:05:31 PM): Please explain why you are against a Rey exile.
spies6Ariel (10:06:39 PM): Please explain why you are against a Rey exile, if you suspect him as you claim.
spies6Georgia (10:07:07 PM): (if the one being questioned has already voiced that only one should ask questions at a time. Then a third should not pop-up with a question after the fact.)
spies6Boris (10:07:42 PM): the thing about him mouthing off about jenya's role is the only thing i really find scummy off the top of my head
spies6Boris (10:07:58 PM): all the other stuff was really circumstantial, or i felt was inacurate
spies6Ariel (10:08:05 PM): Yet he is your second top suspect, after Amelia?
spies6Boris (10:08:19 PM): because the thing about jenya is fairly bad
spies6Boris (10:08:48 PM): i'm saying next person now
spies6rey (10:08:53 PM): okay.
spies6Boris (10:08:53 PM): because i've just been yelled at
spies6Ariel (10:09:00 PM): So the situation is that you have more evidence against - I wasn't finished.
spies6rey (10:09:02 PM): so i can go?
spies6Boris (10:09:05 PM): i don't care
spies6Boris (10:09:12 PM): my relationship is more important then you
spies6Boris (10:09:13 PM): next person
spies6rey (10:09:23 PM): it's okay boris.
spies6Ariel (10:09:26 PM): Screw you too.
spies6rey (10:09:29 PM): i don't need mine answered.
spies6Boris (10:09:31 PM): no thanks
sPIEs6Jason (10:09:32 PM): Guys lets be civil..
spies6levi (10:09:38 PM): Seconded
spies6Kirsten (10:09:44 PM): Alright
spies6rey (10:09:52 PM): you should go now boris.
spies6Kirsten (10:09:53 PM): Boris go for Rey's question now
spies6rey (10:09:56 PM): no.
spies6rey (10:10:00 PM): i don't need it answered.
spies6rey (10:10:02 PM): let him go.
spies6Boris (10:10:04 PM): look, unless i'm going to be exiled, can i just asnwer this next episode?
spies6Kirsten (10:10:16 PM): ah, I didn't realize he wanted to leave now
spies6jenya (10:10:19 PM): Boris, did you really read my case against Rey and not find a single point valid?
spies6rey (10:10:19 PM): yeah.
spies6rey (10:10:22 PM): bye boris!
spies6Boris (10:10:35 PM): i did and i will answer that at a later date jenya
spies6jenya (10:10:35 PM): None of what I typed were good points against Rey?
spies6jenya (10:10:49 PM): Well if we exile Rey I want to know your opinion before we do.
spies6rey (10:10:51 PM): *cough* not really. . *cough*
spies6Boris (10:10:54 PM): i haven't posted full thoughts tonight because i'm iritated at how slow everything is going
spies6jenya (10:10:56 PM): Can you summarize briefly?
spies6Boris (10:10:57 PM): i will post thoughts later
spies6Boris (10:10:58 PM): no
spies6pete (10:11:05 PM): btw, when boris leaves we will be down to needing only two people to block any proposal
spies6Georgia (10:11:06 PM): Let Boris go. Otherwise if his girlfriend erm breaks up with him. Then he will be super crabby to the rest ofus.
spies6rey (10:11:12 PM): really pete?
spies6Ariel (10:11:14 PM): (He's not already?)
spies6pete (10:11:24 PM): theres 10 of us in the room
spies6Georgia (10:11:27 PM): Just let him go and get laid.
spies6rey (10:11:30 PM): i find it funny how people that would BLOCK my exile are leaving.
spies6Kirsten (10:11:33 PM): we'll go to 9 and that'll be 2, Pete is correct.
spies6rey (10:11:34 PM): AKA gretchen.. then boris...
spies6rey (10:11:37 PM): *sigh*
spies6rey (10:11:39 PM): oh well.
spies6Boris (10:11:41 PM): look, can i go?
spies6Kirsten (10:11:43 PM): I propose that Boris can leave now if he wants
spies6rey (10:11:45 PM): bye boris!
spies6Ariel (10:11:45 PM): Leave, Boris.
spies6Georgia (10:11:46 PM): Bye Boris.
spies6Boris (10:11:48 PM): bye
spies6Boris (10:11:52 PM) has left the room.
spies6levi (10:12:00 PM): And then there were nine
spies6Kirsten (10:12:07 PM): *kills Levi*
spies6Kirsten (10:12:09 PM): and then 8
spies6rey (10:12:18 PM): okay can we start doing the arguments and defenses.
spies6levi (10:12:20 PM): Proposal: We change the topic of discussion to Rey
spies4mason (10:12:25 PM) has left the room.
spies6Ariel (10:12:31 PM): Seconded.
spies6rey (10:12:33 PM): we need to start before spies all leave the chat and won't be accountable for any exile.
spies6Kirsten (10:12:39 PM): thirded
spies6Ariel (10:12:47 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6pete (10:12:50 PM): vote yes
spies6Kirsten (10:12:51 PM): yes
spies6rey (10:12:52 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Georgia (10:12:52 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6levi (10:12:54 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (10:13:03 PM): 6/8 needed
spies6Tiberius (10:13:07 PM): VOTE YES YES YES
spies6rey (10:13:10 PM): that's enough.
spies6Tiberius (10:13:14 PM): godamnit do I need to know what's up with rey
spies6Kirsten (10:13:16 PM): need 1 more vote
spies6Tiberius (10:13:21 PM): as i still dont know a dayum thing about the case
spies6rey (10:13:21 PM): that's 7.
spies6rey (10:13:27 PM): we don't need the last one. -.-
spies4mason (10:13:27 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (10:13:28 PM): we need 8...2 can Block rey
spies6rey (10:13:34 PM): wait.
spies6rey (10:13:36 PM): there is 10 here?
spies6levi (10:13:36 PM): Tib
Sorin the Seeker (10:13:39 PM): As there are now 9 players remaining, it requires 2 votes to block a proposal and suggest a proposal.
sPIEs6Jason (10:13:43 PM): Vote Yes
spies6pete (10:13:44 PM): no now there is 9
spies6levi (10:13:45 PM): I think you will learn what you need to learn
spies6rey (10:13:47 PM): yay!
spies6levi (10:13:47 PM): Shortly
Sorin the Seeker (10:13:50 PM): also you dont need a proposal to change the topic of discussion
spies6Tiberius (10:13:57 PM): well thankee Levi ^_^
spies6levi (10:14:02 PM): . . . . darn
spies6levi (10:14:07 PM): Sorry about that
spies6jenya (10:14:12 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (10:14:22 PM): Ok, that's 8
spies6Kirsten (10:14:25 PM): 9
spies6rey (10:14:29 PM): more than we needed.
spies6Ariel (10:14:31 PM): Who begins?
spies6Georgia (10:14:32 PM): -smacks Sam-
spies6Kirsten (10:14:35 PM): And we can just change discussion sans proposals
spies6pete (10:14:36 PM): so in fact everyone
ktbakerJ (10:14:41 PM) has left the room.
spies6Ariel (10:14:43 PM): (Note topic updated.)
spies6Georgia (10:14:46 PM): You tell them that, and they will continue to shuck the proper procedue!
spies6rey (10:15:01 PM): so alphabetical order or what?
spies6Georgia (10:15:01 PM): *procedure
spies6Kirsten (10:15:09 PM): but Georgia, what Sam says is the proper procedure
spies6rey (10:15:12 PM): actually.
spies6levi (10:15:16 PM): Doesn't matter
spies6levi (10:15:18 PM): It's our meeting
spies6levi (10:15:22 PM):
spies6Georgia (10:15:23 PM): They Rey voters need to present their cases.
spies6rey (10:15:23 PM): i would like jenya to go first, since she will cover most of what other people want to ask.
spies6Georgia (10:15:26 PM): (The
spies6Georgia (10:15:29 PM): *The
spies6rey (10:15:32 PM): Proposal: jenya asks first
spies6levi (10:15:32 PM): I second that
spies6levi (10:15:37 PM): But we don't need a proposal
spies6rey (10:15:40 PM): okay.
spies6Ariel (10:15:45 PM): Go ahead, Jenya.
spies6Kirsten (10:15:46 PM): ok, don't need a proposal, but let's let Jenya go first anyway
spies6jenya (10:15:56 PM): I stand on my comments in the Burg. It's 7 posts.
spies6jenya (10:16:01 PM): Rey, rebuttal?
spies6rey (10:16:09 PM): you want me to go there and check?
spies6rey (10:16:11 PM): ugh.
spies6jenya (10:16:14 PM): Sure.
spies6rey (10:16:15 PM): what a waste of my time.
spies6rey (10:16:15 PM): brb.
spies6Georgia (10:16:16 PM): Cover it here Jenya.
spies6Georgia (10:16:18 PM): Summation.
Sorin the Seeker (10:16:19 PM): you dont need a proposal to talk =) just talk
spies6levi (10:16:27 PM): Her first basic point in that thread
spies6rey (10:16:44 PM): i'm going to read it.
spies6levi (10:16:48 PM): Rey did not lead the Almathea exile. Rey did not actually look into the case against Callahan to see if Callahan was innocent. Rey asked for Almathea to be saved at exile, after asking for Callahan to be saved even though he never read the case against Callahan.
spies6rey (10:16:48 PM): don't post anything here.
spies6Georgia (10:16:50 PM): Is Levi short for Jenya?
spies6rey (10:16:51 PM): no.
spies6rey (10:16:55 PM): i'll post it in here.
spies6Tiberius (10:16:56 PM): Proposal: Jenya must present a boiled down case in chat
spies6Kirsten (10:17:02 PM): I move that we get Judge sam to enter in his thoughts on Rey in the Placeholder 7 slot
spies6rey (10:17:05 PM): i would like that tibby, but she is lazy.
spies6jenya (10:17:05 PM): BLOCK
spies6rey (10:17:06 PM): so shh.
spies6Ariel (10:17:07 PM): BLOCK.
spies6Georgia (10:17:12 PM): Block Kirsten's
spies6Tiberius (10:17:12 PM): godamnit why?
spies6levi (10:17:13 PM): BLOCK
spies6Tiberius (10:17:17 PM): ugh
spies6pete (10:17:18 PM): block block block
spies6levi (10:17:18 PM): that was on tib's
spies6jenya (10:17:19 PM): Yeah im lazy and typed that whole case, Rey.
spies6Georgia (10:17:19 PM): Second Tiberius'
spies6rey (10:17:27 PM): i third him, not that it matters, haha.
spies6rey (10:17:28 PM): anyways.
spies6Kirsten (10:17:30 PM): Rey, here's a question for you
spies6rey (10:17:31 PM): one sec.
spies6rey (10:17:32 PM): no.
spies6rey (10:17:34 PM): jenya first.
spies6Kirsten (10:17:36 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (10:17:39 PM): then here is not a question for you
spies6rey (10:17:46 PM): okay.
spies6Georgia (10:17:56 PM): Didn't Rey respond to your case Jenya?
spies6rey (10:18:01 PM): yeah.
spies6rey (10:18:05 PM): she is not smart though.
spies6Kirsten (10:18:07 PM): He responded to the first aprt of it, but not the part that damns him
spies6rey (10:18:10 PM): she can't remember things that happen.
spies6rey (10:18:12 PM): anyways.
spies6Georgia (10:18:12 PM): Then why are you answering the questions.
spies6rey (10:18:12 PM): shh.
spies6rey (10:18:16 PM): let me comment on everything.
spies6rey (10:18:20 PM): stop posting. -.-
spies6Georgia (10:18:20 PM): If she can't say her part?
spies6Tiberius (10:18:36 PM): well ok I can't read jenya's thread whilst multitasking, so against levi's claim i will not learn what i need to learn i guess
spies6rey (10:18:39 PM): it's okay, be leniant (spelling?) on her, she is just a misguided citizen i think.
spies6rey (10:18:48 PM): anyways, stop posting.
spies6jenya (10:18:55 PM): Tiberius, I would rather see you guys argue the case I made.
spies6rey (10:18:56 PM): let me address the points. -____-
spies6jenya (10:19:07 PM): I made it, I want to see who believes it.
spies6Georgia (10:19:13 PM): This is not leniancy court
spies6levi (10:19:16 PM): I believe it Jenya
spies6Kirsten (10:19:25 PM): I believe!
spies6Kirsten (10:19:28 PM): Heart!
spies6Georgia (10:19:36 PM): If someone is going to vote for someone, then they need to present their case and reasons why for their vote.
spies6Ariel (10:19:49 PM): I believe.
spies6Tiberius (10:19:59 PM): Jenya i can argue the case you made if you boil it down for me -_-
spies6Ariel (10:20:09 PM): Or, you could go read it for yourself?
spies6rey (10:20:11 PM): okay can you guys like maybe
spies6rey (10:20:13 PM): i don't know.
spies6jenya (10:20:13 PM): Tibby it's been up there for a week.
spies6rey (10:20:15 PM): stop posting?
spies6levi (10:20:21 PM): Rey
spies6levi (10:20:26 PM): I find it interesting
spies6Georgia (10:20:27 PM): This is the discussion before we exile someone.
spies6Georgia (10:20:34 PM): Yes, Tiberius probably should have read it.
spies6levi (10:20:40 PM): That it's taking you this long to start defending yourself
spies6rey (10:20:44 PM): huh?
spies6levi (10:20:45 PM): This thread has existed for quite some time
spies6rey (10:20:48 PM): you guys are like talking.
spies6rey (10:20:49 PM): levi.
spies6rey (10:20:53 PM): i did address the points.
spies6rey (10:20:56 PM): jenya never answered.
spies6rey (10:20:59 PM): don't piss me off man.
spies6Georgia (10:21:10 PM): Jasn the Empath.
spies6levi (10:21:10 PM): Not all of them
sPIEs6Jason (10:21:12 PM): Careful... -_- happy thoughts
spies6Georgia (10:21:13 PM): *Jason
spies6rey (10:21:18 PM): anyways.
spies6levi (10:21:21 PM): ROFL Jason
spies6rey (10:21:22 PM): the first point:
spies6rey (10:21:33 PM): me not starting the almathea wagon?! that's a LAUGH!
spies6rey (10:21:40 PM): tiberius is living proof here that i did.
spies6Georgia (10:21:40 PM): Why should this be about whether or not someone believes your case Jenya?
sPIEs6Jason (10:21:43 PM): (It's Emopath thank you very much Georgia lol)
spies6rey (10:21:57 PM): unfortunately,, ellis did not make it this far in order to confirm that as well.
spies6rey (10:22:00 PM): .. *
spies6levi (10:22:08 PM): Georgia, the case is about Rey, we are discussing him as we speak
sPIEs6Jason (10:22:11 PM): I can confirm that Rey started it, too
spies6jenya (10:22:12 PM): You said specifically that Tiberius suspected Alma before you did, Rey.
spies6rey (10:22:12 PM): why do you say that i didn't lead the almathea exile, jenya?
spies6rey (10:22:17 PM): no.
spies6Tiberius (10:22:18 PM): Rey I don't recall you being the one brining me onto the alam wagon
spies6rey (10:22:24 PM): huh?
spies6Tiberius (10:22:26 PM): it was jason, i think
spies6rey (10:22:32 PM): tibby, i'm pretty sure i was the FIRST person to show you my case.
sPIEs6Jason (10:22:34 PM): But I can also say that he backed off of it and Ellis and I talked about it and got him back on it
spies6Georgia (10:22:34 PM): Well, you are ignoring potentional clique-ism, EmoPath Jason.
spies6rey (10:22:39 PM): i can grab you the chat since you seem to forget about it.
spies6rey (10:22:51 PM): as if i haven't posted it before.. tibby.
sPIEs6Jason (10:22:59 PM): What potential clique, Georgia? I'll slash it with my razors
spies6rey (10:23:30 PM): tiberius
spies6Georgia (10:23:31 PM): I believe Jenya + Kirsten + Ariel are forming a potential clique.
spies6rey (10:23:35 PM): yeah georgia
spies6rey (10:23:36 PM): they are
spies6rey (10:23:37 PM): with levi.
spies6rey (10:23:38 PM): but shh.
spies6rey (10:23:40 PM): that's not the topic.
sPIEs6Jason (10:23:42 PM): Jenya, Kirsten, Ariel, is this true? -_-
spies6levi (10:23:44 PM): Proposal: My role passes to Georgia if I leave the meeting.
spies6Kirsten (10:23:45 PM): How is us all suspecting the same player a clique?
spies6rey (10:23:47 PM): it is jason, but shh.
spies6rey (10:23:52 PM): no kirsten.
spies6rey (10:23:55 PM): it's quite obvious.
spies6Tiberius (10:23:56 PM): I am AT LAST being explained the basic bullet points of this case in private, was that so hard people? Because I'm interested now
spies6rey (10:23:56 PM): anyways.
spies6Ariel (10:24:09 PM): Tiberius no one should have to spoon-feed you their case.
spies6rey (10:24:10 PM): *rate limited*
spies6Ariel (10:24:13 PM): Just saying.
spies6levi (10:24:18 PM): I second Ariel's thing
spies6rey (10:24:19 PM): anyways tibby-sheep, you listening? (:
spies6Georgia (10:24:21 PM): You also all three seemed to agree, that Jenya didn't need to present her case in here.
spies6Georgia (10:24:32 PM): Also that you believed her case.
spies6Kirsten (10:24:33 PM): I don't recall taking a stance on it
spies6Ariel (10:24:33 PM): She doesn't. She's had it posted in the burg for a WEEK.
spies6Tiberius (10:24:35 PM): noone should have to but it's considertate to help busy players, i will never understand why people don't understand that
spies6jenya (10:24:37 PM): Georgia, I stand by the entire posted case, I'm not going to retype it here.
spies6Kirsten (10:24:42 PM): and yes, believing a case is not the same as a clique
spies6rey (10:24:43 PM): i'll post it in private tibby-sheep, so that you can see it.
spies6Tiberius (10:24:49 PM): i just want SMALL main point, small main points helped me exile the spies that i have exiled
spies6jenya (10:24:58 PM): Now you all can make your own case or take points of mine you like or dislike.
spies6Georgia (10:25:04 PM): -just pointing out the potential-
spies6levi (10:25:08 PM): Can we please stop arguing whether Jenya should post her case in here or not, and start discussing the man of the hour himself?
spies6Kirsten (10:25:15 PM): please
spies6Kirsten (10:25:37 PM): People are associating like mindedness with clique. Are Pete + Rey in a clique for sharing chats and both believing Amelia is a spy?
spies6Tiberius (10:25:41 PM): no, because it pisses me the hell off that people seem to be obsessed with long ass cases that can always be boiled down to SIMPLE points, simple points caught alma and jaya and iris
spies6Georgia (10:25:57 PM): This is for this meeting.
spies6levi (10:26:08 PM): Can we please quit arguing the nature of cases, and go to Rey?
spies6Georgia (10:26:10 PM): Are pete and Rey sharing chats at this moment, during this meeting?
spies6Kirsten (10:26:14 PM): YES!
spies6Kirsten (10:26:21 PM): so many chats
spies6Kirsten (10:26:25 PM): are being shared right now
spies6Kirsten (10:26:28 PM): it's absurd
spies6pete (10:26:32 PM): no georgia, we are not at this moment in time
sPIEs6Jason (10:26:35 PM): It seems to me like this is all distraction from the purpose of this chat -_-
spies6levi (10:26:39 PM): Seconded
spies6jenya (10:26:41 PM): I'll go briefly
spies6Kirsten (10:26:42 PM): OK, let's focus on Rey
spies6pete (10:26:50 PM): but we have, and it was through that, that the cases on amelia were helped to be formed
spies6jenya (10:26:52 PM): Episode 1: Rey 18 hrs before exile
spies6jenya (10:26:58 PM): spies6rey (4:50:01 PM): yes, i was voting almathea, but i talked to her today and i've decided against it since she gave a reasonable explanation.
JohnNT316 (10:27:12 PM) has entered the room.
spies6jenya (10:27:12 PM): 2 hrs before exile:
spies6jenya (10:27:13 PM): spies6rey (3:36:24 PM): almathea ?
spies6rey (3:36:33 PM): you are sure that she is going to be exiled already?
spies6jason (3:36:51 PM): She needs to be
spies6rey (3:36:53 PM): i'm still deciding to be honest.
spies6jenya (10:27:20 PM): spies6rey (3:45:26 PM): it's just i feel like almathea is telling the truth, you know?
spies6jenya (10:27:29 PM): 1 hr before exile:
spies6jenya (10:27:29 PM): spies6rey (3:57:05 PM): i'm still not sure whether to vote almathea or not.
spies6rey (3:57:06 PM): :\
spies6jenya (10:27:39 PM): right after exile: spies6rey: save almathea!
spies6jenya (10:27:55 PM): not a leader of the Alma exile by any means.
spies6jenya (10:28:08 PM): He claims he found callahan inncoent. why?
spies6jenya (10:28:10 PM): spies6Jenya (4:16:56 PM): Rey, have you told them you think Callahan is a citizen?
spies6rey (4:17:24 PM): no i haven't jenya.
spies6rey (4:17:35 PM): i don't know the argument against him.
spies6rey (4:17:56 PM): technically i'm too lazy to read the argument against him
spies6jenya (10:28:18 PM): He never even read the case against Callahan.
CPO0408 (10:28:31 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (10:28:36 PM): Sorry to interrupt. Mirela is here, but she's on her phone so she can't chat. You can send her private messages if you desire.
spies6jenya (10:28:38 PM): Episode 2: Jaya was Rey's #2 suspect behind Alma in Episode 1
spies6jenya (10:28:45 PM): But he went after pete instead
spies6jenya (10:29:10 PM): Rey lied telling me he had a role
spies6jenya (10:29:18 PM): Then said he made up the role to test pete
spies6jenya (10:29:26 PM): But he already found Pete supercit:
spies6jenya (10:29:41 PM): spies6rey (9:16:17 PM): pete voted jaya.
spies6rey (9:16:20 PM): he is clear basically.
spies6rey (9:22:43 PM): yeah, gabriela was already cleared.
spies6rey (9:22:47 PM): but now she is super cleared.

spies6jenya (10:29:50 PM): So why test someone you found supercit?
spies6jenya (10:29:55 PM): answer: another lie
spies6jenya (10:30:03 PM): Rey tried to draw my protect
spies6jenya (10:30:17 PM): And guess who he told me NOT to protect:
spies6jenya (10:30:18 PM): spies6Jenya (9:49:00 PM): I should be last to get Imprisoned
spies6rey (9:49:43 PM): actually jenya.
spies6rey (9:49:58 PM): i think gabriela is the least likely to go.
spies6jenya (10:30:30 PM): Gabby was imprisoned a few days later.
spies6jenya (10:30:59 PM): later episode 3 rey lists off his "cits" right before mei yun's imprisonment
spies6jenya (10:31:03 PM): spies6rey (3:06:20 PM): if i die i trust: ellis, jason, thor, tiberius, gabriela, you...
spies6Jenya (3:06:32 PM): I see only 4 vulnerable
spies6rey (3:06:47 PM): i THINK boris is citizen
spies6rey (3:07:59 PM): kk
spies6Tiberius (10:31:28 PM): i'm overwhelmed again
spies6jenya (10:31:30 PM): 6 minutes later, moments before impris:
spies6Ariel (10:31:35 PM): (Note: This chat has gone on for three hours)
spies6jenya (10:31:43 PM): spies6rey (3:13:03 PM): i trust mei yun too
spies6rey (10:31:47 PM): sorry i was talking in PMs, haha.
spies6rey (10:31:50 PM): let me catch up.
spies6Kirsten (10:31:59 PM): We've done 3 hours...shall we break the power challenge time?
spies6jenya (10:32:10 PM): I'll pass to the next person for now
spies6Tiberius (10:32:11 PM): i just don't like the chat based evidence, it confuses me, i like simple points using sentances, i know it doesnt make sense to anyone, but this is no helping me
spies6Kirsten (10:32:22 PM): I'll take the torch
spies6Georgia (10:32:33 PM): I think it could be simplified.
spies6Ariel (10:32:41 PM): -headdesk-
spies6rey (10:32:54 PM): so i completely disagree about my not leading the wagon on almathea, and jenya refuses to reply about my defense.
spies6rey (10:32:56 PM): next point.
spies6Kirsten (10:33:15 PM): (I'm going to grab a drink. Continue addressing Jenya in the time being)
spies6rey (10:33:18 PM): i found callahan to be innocent because of reactions.
spies6pete (10:33:30 PM): post even though no prod
spies6rey (10:33:37 PM): i believe i started that his reaction was citizen-like somewhere, and that i rely heavily on reactions/interactions.
spies6levi (10:33:39 PM): postpost
spies6rey (10:33:42 PM): next point..
spies6rey (10:33:53 PM): (by the way i'm scrolled up here, so i can't see what you guys are saying, yay!)
spies6Tiberius (10:34:03 PM): i really can't even fucking handle this tonight, my brain is getting into that situation where it cant handle all the information, THIS IS WHY I LIKE SIMPLE POINTS GODAMNIT sorry for interfering here i just... ugh fuck i'm confused and overwhelemed and rararararararararara, ignore me please
spies6rey (10:34:08 PM): yeah, i didn't read the entire case on callahan.
spies6rey (10:34:15 PM): it wasn't much of a case.
spies6Ariel (10:34:29 PM): Here's a simple, short little point for you, then, Tiberius.
spies6rey (10:34:31 PM): basically he said that yvette shouldn't have posted the thing to one person, and that she should have to someone else or something?
spies6Ariel (10:34:32 PM): Rey is a spy. Vote for him.
spies6Georgia (10:34:38 PM): -Jason the EmoPath to aisle Tiberius please-
spies6rey (10:34:39 PM): doesn't seem like: I CAUGHT A SPY to me.
spies6Tiberius (10:34:48 PM): Ariel stop making fun of me
spies6rey (10:34:53 PM): for the next point..
sPIEs6Jason (10:34:55 PM): I'm on it -_-
spies6rey (10:35:03 PM): jaya was my NUMBER ONE SUSPECT the whole episode until the last day.
spies6rey (10:35:15 PM): ellis explicitly told me NOT to vote her.
spies6Ariel (10:35:20 PM): I was being serious, Tiberius.
spies6rey (10:35:22 PM): you even have chats which prove that.
spies6Ariel (10:35:24 PM): Not making fun of you.
spies6rey (10:35:29 PM): and jenya.
spies6rey (10:35:33 PM): next point...
spies6rey (10:35:54 PM): the reason why i tested pete even though i thought he was pretty cleared:
spies6rey (10:36:04 PM): JAYA DIDNT want to vote him, along with donald as we learn later on.
spies6rey (10:36:26 PM): since jaya didn't want to vote him even though she could have framed me as a spy, i felt that pete was still a bit suspicious.
spies6rey (10:36:32 PM): therefore, i tested pete using the claim.
spies6rey (10:36:50 PM): i did NOT try to draw your protect, word-twisting bitch.<3
spies6rey (10:37:04 PM): i said that i thought gabriela was the LEAST LIKELY to go.
spies6rey (10:37:08 PM): not that you shouldn't protect her.
spies6rey (10:37:19 PM): if you asked me if you should protect her i would probably have said okay or sure.
spies6Ariel (10:37:22 PM): Excuse me?
spies6rey (10:37:25 PM): and YEAH
spies6rey (10:37:32 PM): i DID have a citizen read on mei yun.
spies6rey (10:37:33 PM): so what?
sPIEs6Jason (10:37:42 PM): Can the Emopath make a slight interruption?
spies6Ariel (10:37:46 PM): And when I tell everyone I'm the Protector:

spies6rey (9:28:06 PM): is it okay if i say that i was protected and that's why i didn't die later on?
spies6Jenya (9:28:09 PM): No
spies6rey (9:30:27 PM): jenya, i think you should still protect me. (it sounds selfish but i still fear imprisonment)
spies6rey (9:32:08 PM): jenya, for saftey sake you shouldn't tell pete.
spies6rey (9:32:17 PM): jaya didn't want to vote pete.

spies6Ariel (10:37:50 PM): Clear lie.
spies6levi (10:37:56 PM): yes emopath
spies6rey (10:38:16 PM): huh ariel,
spies6rey (10:38:22 PM): yeah i said that she should protect me.
spies6Kirsten (10:38:30 PM): (I'm back)
spies6rey (10:38:30 PM): but that wasn't the time GABRIELA went, was it?
spies6Ariel (10:38:33 PM): Which is considered "drawing her protect".
spies6Ariel (10:38:34 PM): Yes, it was.
spies6rey (10:38:36 PM): i'm pretty sure it WASN'T.
spies6Ariel (10:38:38 PM): According to Jenya, anyway.
spies6rey (10:38:49 PM): NO.
spies6rey (10:38:50 PM): MEI YUN LEFT
spies6rey (10:38:53 PM): that exile.
sPIEs6Jason (10:38:54 PM): OK... Guys it's not fair to expect Tiberius to know the fine points of the big case posted in the Burg. I know it's been up long enough to be read but it can be overwhelming and we shouldn't assume Tiberius has it down. Since he doesn't we need to at least respect him and not brush him off
spies6rey (10:38:54 PM): jenya...
spies6rey (10:38:56 PM): check again.
spies6Kirsten (10:39:12 PM): I agree with the Emo-Path
sPIEs6Jason (10:39:21 PM): Weneed everyone invlved in this so that means if someone needs cases broken down into bullet points we need to d that
spies6rey (10:39:29 PM): jenya, can you post things that i HAVEN'T already addressed?
spies6rey (10:39:39 PM): i believe i answered all these points in the forum already...
spies6rey (10:39:43 PM): what a waste of my time.
spies6levi (10:39:45 PM): I am breaking down the case
spies6levi (10:39:48 PM): Into bullet points
spies6levi (10:39:50 PM): For Tib
spies6Kirsten (10:39:52 PM): Rey, why did you minus vote Gretchen when she was on your neutral list and you said you wuold only minus vote people you thought were citizens
spies6levi (10:39:52 PM): As we speak
spies6rey (10:39:59 PM): kirsten, i wanted pete exiled.
sPIEs6Jason (10:39:59 PM): Thanks Leave Eye!
spies6rey (10:40:05 PM): i thought she would accumulate votes.
spies6Tiberius (10:40:08 PM): Levi is indeed helping me
spies6Tiberius (10:40:11 PM): and i thank him
spies6rey (10:40:13 PM): therefore, i -voted her for that purpose.
spies6Georgia (10:40:19 PM): Or perhaps a summation version. Like "Rey is a spy because he lied about wearing purple underwear. This makes him a spy, because spies are required to wear purpleunderwear. So when he lied about it. blah blah. "
spies6levi (10:40:21 PM): Anytime
spies6rey (10:40:35 PM): and kirsten, i did not state that i would only minus vote people i thought were citizens LOL.
spies6rey (10:40:39 PM): i'm SURE of that.
spies6Kirsten (10:40:41 PM): You did state that
spies6rey (10:40:43 PM): no.
spies6rey (10:40:45 PM): i deny it.
spies6rey (10:40:59 PM): i'm pretty sure i said that i would use it to help someone i want exiled to get exiled.
spies6Kirsten (10:41:00 PM): If someone that I think is likely a citizen is getting a large amount of votes,
I will use my negative vote to try to prevent their exile.
spies6rey (10:41:06 PM): yeah IF.
spies6levi (10:41:07 PM): ATTENTION
spies6rey (10:41:13 PM): not that i would.
spies6levi (10:41:18 PM): Sam says that the C-Span2 camerawoman who was filming this
spies6levi (10:41:19 PM): Fell asleep
spies6rey (10:41:26 PM): o.O
spies6levi (10:41:29 PM): *resumes filling in Tib*
spies6rey (10:41:38 PM): oookay.
spies6Georgia (10:41:48 PM): Levi, Can you get Jenya's approval on your breakdown. So she can't say later on that what you told Tiberius was false or misrepresented?
spies6pete (10:41:53 PM): post even though no prod
spies6Georgia (10:41:58 PM): C-Span bores anyone, anyways.
spies6Kirsten (10:42:05 PM): Cspan is exciting
spies6Georgia (10:42:19 PM): Big Brother TV is more like the people who should be filming us.
spies6rey (10:42:21 PM): jenya come back and post some points i haven't discussed. (: *waits*
spies6Georgia (10:42:29 PM): Though I don't remember being asked to sign any legal papers.
spies6Tiberius (10:42:30 PM): it seems to match the points rey is defending himself against right now georgia
spies6Tiberius (10:42:34 PM): i've been checking that
spies6Kirsten (10:42:53 PM): "I think that when needed,
I can hide when I am not telling the truth.

Although most times it quite easy to see
since I just avoid the question,
or change the subject. "
spies6Ariel (10:43:06 PM): I think it's worth noting that Rey basically didn't bother to defend himself after Episode 3 or so of Jenya's case.
spies6rey (10:43:13 PM): okay so, kirsten?
spies6Kirsten (10:43:14 PM): That is what rey said in the lie thread
spies6rey (10:43:20 PM): yeah, what about that?
spies6Kirsten (10:43:27 PM): spies6Kirsten (11:45:07 PM): is it difficult to deal with getting caught for lying?
spies6rey (11:47:56 PM): i'm not lying.
spies6Kirsten (11:48:19 PM): I have to drive my sister to the airport
spies6Kirsten (11:48:28 PM): you have 2 hours to figure out how to explain your way out of it
spies6rey (11:48:33 PM): i'm not going to.
spies6rey (11:48:37 PM): i'm done explaining to you.
spies6Kirsten (10:43:43 PM): avoid the question or change the subject is how you said you lie
spies6rey (10:43:45 PM): that isn't changing the topic.
spies6Kirsten (10:43:48 PM): which looks exactly like that
spies6rey (10:43:52 PM): i said i was DONE talking to you.
spies6Ariel (10:43:54 PM): No, it's avoiding the question.
spies6rey (10:43:57 PM): not chaning subject.
spies6Kirsten (10:43:59 PM): that's avoiding the question
spies6rey (10:44:01 PM): changing*
spies6Kirsten (10:44:11 PM): I didn't argue it was changing the subject, I'm arguing it was avoiding the qeustion
spies6rey (10:44:16 PM): well it's not.
spies6rey (10:44:21 PM): it's stopping the question completely.
spies6Ariel (10:44:26 PM): Same thing.
spies6rey (10:44:28 PM): avoiding in my terms = ignoring.
spies6rey (10:44:29 PM): AKA.
caseyisgodmmk (10:44:34 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (10:44:35 PM): rey: hey kirsten, how are you?
spies6rey (10:44:40 PM): kirsten: so ariel...
spies6rey (10:44:43 PM): that's what i mean.
spies6Kirsten (10:44:52 PM): Avoiding the question means simply not answering it.
spies6rey (10:44:54 PM): && hey casey, btw.
spies6rey (10:44:58 PM): exactly!
spies6Kirsten (10:44:59 PM): whatever sneaky meands you use to accomplish that is fine
spies6rey (10:45:03 PM): i DID address it.
caseyisgodmmk (10:45:04 PM): hi :3
spies6Kirsten (10:45:08 PM): like, saying "I'm done explaining to you"
spies6Ariel (10:45:10 PM): You didn't answer the question, Rey.
spies6rey (10:45:10 PM): yeah.
spies6Georgia (10:45:12 PM): The viewers almost outnumber us.
spies6rey (10:45:15 PM): that's not IGNORING IT.
spies6Ariel (10:45:24 PM): Whether or not you said you weren't going to is irrelevant.
spies6rey (10:45:29 PM): i completely addressed that i would not answer it.
spies6Ariel (10:45:38 PM): But you didn't answer it. That's the point.
spies6Kirsten (10:45:40 PM): ok, so you didn't ignore it, but you also didn't answer it, which is roughly equivalent to the same thing
spies6rey (10:45:46 PM): no.
spies6rey (10:45:48 PM): it's not.
spies6Ariel (10:45:48 PM): Yes.
sPIEs6Jason (10:45:50 PM): I think that if the question isn't sufficiently answered it needs to be answered further... To properly make the question askers happy -_-
spies6rey (10:45:56 PM): okay listen.
spies6rey (10:46:00 PM): i addressed the question
spies6rey (10:46:03 PM): she said she thought i was lying.
spies6rey (10:46:06 PM): and i say NO
spies6rey (10:46:10 PM): and shekept saying i was.
spies6Ariel (10:46:12 PM): (Note - The subject has been changed from questioning Rey.)
spies6rey (10:46:13 PM): so i stopped the convo.
spies6rey (10:46:36 PM): is that incorrect, kirsten?
spies6rey (10:46:48 PM): 'cause i still deny it.
spies6Kirsten (10:46:52 PM): where was the evidnece to back up your claim that you weren't lying?
sPIEs6Jason (10:46:53 PM): Ok, can you guys be more respectful of Rey's conviction that he's answered the question? whether he's being honest or not is another subject...
sPIEs6Jason (10:46:59 PM): This Emopath job sucks
spies6Kirsten (10:47:06 PM): try empath
spies6rey (10:47:08 PM): i don't have evidence kirsten because NOBODY WILL GIVE ME the chat.
spies6rey (10:47:09 PM): like i SAID.
spies6Kirsten (10:47:09 PM): it might be better
spies6Kirsten (10:47:19 PM): you didn't ask me for the chat
spies6Kirsten (10:47:23 PM): and never said that
spies6rey (10:47:28 PM): yeah i did.
spies6rey (10:47:31 PM): maybe not to you
spies6rey (10:47:33 PM): i can't remember. xD
spies6Kirsten (10:47:35 PM): no, you didn't ask me for it
spies6rey (10:47:38 PM): so my bad if it's not you.
spies6Georgia (10:47:50 PM): Jenya, why are you being silent?
spies6rey (10:48:03 PM): she has been defeated by my defenses, she needs to recover, haha.
spies6rey (10:48:04 PM):
spies6Georgia (10:48:21 PM): She "started" the case, then lets Kirsten and Ariel question you?
spies6Ariel (10:48:30 PM): spies6Kirsten (10:43:33 PM): spies6Kirsten (11:45:07 PM): is it difficult to deal with getting caught for lying?
spies6rey (11:47:56 PM): i'm not lying.
spies6Kirsten (11:48:19 PM): I have to drive my sister to the airport
spies6Kirsten (11:48:28 PM): you have 2 hours to figure out how to explain your way out of it
spies6rey (11:48:33 PM): i'm not going to.
spies6rey (11:48:37 PM): i'm done explaining to you.
spies6rey (10:48:37 PM): georgia, don't mind it.
spies6jenya (10:48:40 PM): I have a guest over, Georgia.
spies6rey (10:48:42 PM): it's how they operate.
spies6Ariel (10:48:42 PM): I would like Rey's answer to the question being referenced in this chat.
spies6jenya (10:48:58 PM): I told Sam I couldn't make this chat and I'm trying to both do it and entertain a guest.
spies6rey (10:48:59 PM): this question?
spies6rey (10:48:59 PM): spies6Kirsten (11:45:07 PM): is it difficult to deal with getting caught for lying?
spies6Ariel (10:49:06 PM): No.
spies6rey (10:49:07 PM): ariel, the above question?
spies6Georgia (10:49:08 PM): Ah. I didn't know that.
spies6rey (10:49:13 PM): then what are you talking about, ariel?
spies6Roxy (10:49:15 PM) has entered the room.
spies6Ariel (10:49:16 PM): Whatever "lie" that you were caught in by Kirsten.
spies6Roxy (10:49:17 PM): hey.
spies6pete (10:49:20 PM): hi
spies6Kirsten (10:49:21 PM): wow, Roxy
spies6Georgia (10:49:22 PM): Hi Roxy.
sPIEs6Jason (10:49:24 PM): Hi Roxy
spies6rey (10:49:26 PM): i was NOT caught in a lie.
spies6Tiberius (10:49:27 PM): hi rin on the rox
spies6rey (10:49:27 PM): i deny it.
spies6rey (10:49:30 PM): so there is no answer.
spies6Roxy (10:49:33 PM): how is everyone?
spies6rey (10:49:37 PM): hey roxy btw.
spies6Kirsten (10:49:41 PM): Eh, it's basically a he denies it, I assert it kind of deal
spies6Ariel (10:49:42 PM): Kirsten, can you tell us what lie you caught Rey in?
spies6Kirsten (10:49:50 PM): He denies that he was "spies viewer"
spies6rey (10:49:53 PM): she thinks i'm spies viewer still.
spies6Roxy (10:50:04 PM): so...what is going on
spies6Kirsten (10:50:05 PM): However, here is my evidence
spies6Georgia (10:50:07 PM): I propose we move on to the other Rey voters, to present their cases/reason why they would vote for REy.
spies6rey (10:50:11 PM): just discussion roxy, haha.
spies6Ariel (10:50:22 PM): BLOCK. I don't think Kirsten is finished.
spies6pete (10:50:30 PM): block
sPIEs6Jason (10:50:35 PM): It's not fair to insist that he's Spies Viewer if he says he's not... there's no true way to prove that without breaking game rules
spies6rey (10:50:36 PM): well she certainly isn't making any points that haven't been addressed.
spies6Georgia (10:50:36 PM): This all started with Jenya did it not?
spies6Georgia (10:50:42 PM): So we are moving from Jenya to someone else.
spies6Kirsten (10:50:49 PM): Here are 3 points in favor of him being spies viewer
spies6rey (10:50:51 PM): yeah, this was jenya.
spies6rey (10:50:56 PM): and her case sucks, to be honest.
spies6Ariel (10:50:59 PM): Jenya gave the torch to Kirsten a while back.
spies6rey (10:51:01 PM): she never replies to any of my defenses.
spies6Kirsten (10:51:07 PM): 1. He told Tiberius something Tiberius said in chat back to Tiberius, yet Rey wasn't in chat
spies6Georgia (10:51:09 PM): Clique-ism potential
spies6Kirsten (10:51:18 PM): 2. He logged off at the exact same time as spies viewer
spies6rey (10:51:21 PM): i already said that i got that from a person in there.
spies6levi (10:51:22 PM): I have to leave in a few minutes
spies6rey (10:51:23 PM): and kirsten
spies6rey (10:51:26 PM): I ALREADY SAID
spies6levi (10:51:32 PM): Proposal: My role passes to Kirsten when I leave.
spies6rey (10:51:36 PM): if i logged off at the same time, it CAN'T be me.
spies6pete (10:51:45 PM): is kirsten allowed to have so many roles?
spies6Tiberius (10:51:45 PM): Yes Kirsten
spies6Kirsten (10:51:46 PM): You can be logged onto multiple aliases, Rey
spies6Ariel (10:51:47 PM): Three roles might be a bit much for Kirsten, Levi.
spies6Georgia (10:51:48 PM): I don't think that is legal Levi.
spies6Tiberius (10:51:48 PM): I can confirm that
spies6Kirsten (10:51:54 PM): Give it to someone else
spies6levi (10:51:55 PM): Alright
spies6Ariel (10:51:58 PM): Actually, I think Sam said no.
spies6Kirsten (10:52:06 PM): I propose we give it to Pete
spies6levi (10:52:07 PM): Proposal: My role passes to Georgia when I leave.
spies6rey (10:52:07 PM): LOL kirsten.
spies6rey (10:52:13 PM): okay kirsten
spies6levi (10:52:14 PM): Pete works too
spies6Ariel (10:52:16 PM): I second Kirsten's.
spies6levi (10:52:17 PM): I'm not picky here
spies6rey (10:52:19 PM): show me the chat where i log of the same time.
spies6pete (10:52:23 PM): wait sorry, what is your role levi
spies6levi (10:52:25 PM): I third Kirstens
spies6levi (10:52:28 PM): I ask Sam questions
spies6Kirsten (10:52:34 PM): Let's put it to a vote
spies6pete (10:52:36 PM): ooh right yeah ok
spies6levi (10:52:37 PM): He won't answer anyone else
spies6Ariel (10:52:39 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (10:52:40 PM): Vote on Pete getting Levi's role
spies6levi (10:52:41 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Kirsten (10:52:42 PM): Yes
spies6rey (10:52:48 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Tiberius (10:52:51 PM): Yes
spies6Georgia (10:52:59 PM): Let it move on to Pete.
spies6Georgia (10:53:01 PM): Yes.
spies6jenya (10:53:09 PM): yes
sPIEs6Jason (10:53:12 PM): Vote Yes
spies6Roxy (10:53:13 PM): ...lost
spies6Georgia (10:53:14 PM): Unless of course Pete plans on leaving any time soon?
spies6Roxy (10:53:15 PM): o.o
spies6rey (10:53:18 PM): roxy, just say yes.
spies6Kirsten (10:53:19 PM): It passes
spies6rey (10:53:22 PM): nvm.
spies6Roxy (10:53:26 PM):
spies6Roxy (10:53:27 PM): no.
spies6Ariel (10:53:27 PM): Wait
spies6Ariel (10:53:30 PM): Two can block.
spies6Ariel (10:53:36 PM): I have seven votes, so..
spies6rey (10:53:43 PM): it's going to pass anyways. -__-
spies6Ariel (10:53:45 PM): Jenya and Pete have not voted.
spies6rey (10:53:49 PM): and roxy.
spies6pete (10:53:50 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (10:53:50 PM): Jenya voted
spies6pete (10:53:51 PM): vote yes
spies6rey (10:53:54 PM): jenya voted.
spies6Ariel (10:53:56 PM): Roxy doesn't get a vote, I don't think.
spies6Kirsten (10:54:01 PM): and I don't think Roxy has a vote

[Judge Sam]

spies6rey (10:54:01 PM): oh right.
spies6rey (10:54:02 PM): sorry roxy.
spies6Ariel (10:54:04 PM): Oh, I missed Jenya's vote.
spies6Kirsten (10:54:12 PM): It now passes
spies6pete (10:54:13 PM): and, if I do decide to leave, which I dont think I will, but, if I do, I can always give it away too, so....its no big deal
spies6Kirsten (10:54:16 PM): Pete is the questioner to Sam
spies6Ariel (10:54:22 PM): When Levi leaves.
spies6Georgia (10:54:38 PM): Is that vote for proposals. I thought it was vote for exile?
spies6rey (10:54:50 PM): LOL.
spies6Georgia (10:54:51 PM): Or all votes in all things?
spies6rey (10:54:54 PM): to exile pete?!
spies6rey (10:54:55 PM): o.O
spies6Ariel (10:54:56 PM): You have to vote for proposals to pass.
spies6Georgia (10:54:57 PM): No no.
spies6Georgia (10:55:04 PM): No no.
spies6rey (10:55:07 PM): phew.
spies6rey (10:55:10 PM): scared me for a sec.
spies6rey (10:55:13 PM): i scrolled up.
spies6Georgia (10:55:16 PM): Kirsten said she thought Roxy doesn't have a vote.
spies6Ariel (10:55:26 PM): Oh, that's a good point.
spies6Kirsten (10:55:27 PM): Let's have Pete question Sam
spies6rey (10:55:27 PM): oh, i thought it was for exile too.
spies6pete (10:55:32 PM): i dont think roxy is allowed a vote
spies6Ariel (10:55:38 PM): Levi is still the questioner, I thought his role passed when he left?
spies6Kirsten (10:55:38 PM): with his shiny new role
spies6rey (10:55:39 PM): pete, ask sam if roxy has proposal votes.
spies6pete (10:55:39 PM): ok, Ill question him
spies6pete (10:55:43 PM): okey dokey
spies6Kirsten (10:55:46 PM):
spies6Ariel (10:55:53 PM): Merh, I don't suppose it matters.
spies6Georgia (10:55:56 PM): II thought late joiners and after 15 minute non-responding-prodders, didn't have a vote for exile.
spies6Roxy (10:56:02 PM): i dont.
spies6Georgia (10:56:03 PM): Or is it a vote for proposals and exile?
spies6pete (10:56:09 PM): i asked: does roxy have proposal votes, answer....NO
spies6Ariel (10:56:10 PM): I think it's all votes.
spies6Ariel (10:56:14 PM): Ah.
spies6rey (10:56:15 PM): NO
spies6Tiberius (10:56:16 PM): IIt's votes for anything i recall
spies6rey (10:56:18 PM): dun dun dun~
sPIEs6Jason (10:56:30 PM): Yeah sam said Exile votes too earlier I think
spies6Georgia (10:56:43 PM): I don't recall really, and can't scroll back up.
spies6pete (10:56:52 PM): I have been told to ask you guys (from sam) : how do you work his VSR to record
spies6pete (10:56:58 PM): he is apprently very confused
spies6rey (10:57:05 PM): can you guys present the cases on me faster? i want to take a shower.
spies6rey (10:57:18 PM): i need to rip up cases fast so i can take a shower. (:
spies6rey (10:57:24 PM): levi!
spies6rey (10:57:28 PM): you should go before you leave.
sPIEs6Jason (10:57:28 PM): Take a razor to your arm and you'll forget about the VCR not working
spies6Kirsten (10:57:29 PM): Why didn't you want to vote Donald, but then decided to do so anyway?
spies6rey (10:57:29 PM): okay?
spies6levi (10:57:32 PM): what about me?
spies6rey (10:57:37 PM): kirsten, that was because of ellis.
spies6Georgia (10:57:38 PM): What is a VSR?
spies6rey (10:57:45 PM): just like he convinced me NOT to vote jaya,
spies6rey (10:57:51 PM): he convinced me to VOTE donald.
spies6rey (10:57:54 PM): anyways levi go first.
spies6levi (10:57:54 PM): My main beef with you
spies6rey (10:58:01 PM): is that you play this like survivor, i know.
spies6Tiberius (10:58:03 PM): I would like to officially anounce that levi's translation of the case on rey, combinded with what i saw as very weak defenses from rey that i just read over, = me being ok with a rey exile now, though i'm STILL leaning amelia
spies6Kirsten (10:58:04 PM): Why did you want to vote Levi over Donald, when you gave me reasons to think Levi was a citizen in a chat the previous day?
spies6levi (10:58:12 PM): No
spies6rey (10:58:16 PM): LOL tiberius.
spies6levi (10:58:22 PM): You were at teh Sam Lies introduction chat
spies6rey (10:58:22 PM): you think my defenses were WEAK?
spies6Tiberius (10:58:28 PM): yes rey ^_^
spies6levi (10:58:31 PM): Where I said the Imprisonment may be a false reveal
spies6rey (10:58:34 PM): wow.
spies6rey (10:58:43 PM): tibby, you are such a back stabber. xD
spies6levi (10:58:45 PM): You, being the super cit that you are, should have seen something like that coming.
spies6rey (10:58:51 PM): no levi.
spies6rey (10:59:01 PM): i didn't.
spies6Tiberius (10:59:08 PM): didn't you just refer to levi as someone who plays survivor, then call me a backstabber?
spies6Tiberius (10:59:17 PM): interesting
spies6levi (10:59:26 PM): I know that you have said that after the imprisonment, you thought that Sam's goodbye to Jenya proved she was really gone.
sPIEs6Jason (10:59:28 PM): Lets not call names...
spies6levi (10:59:37 PM): Why then did you feel like posting in the Burg
spies6rey (10:59:38 PM): yeah, as in you JUST said in the private chat that you didn't think i was a spy, and then suddently switch
spies6levi (10:59:40 PM): That you messed up
spies6rey (10:59:42 PM): within what, two minutes?
spies6levi (10:59:51 PM): And that teh Imprisonment may be a lie
spies6levi (10:59:58 PM): After blabbing to the entire burg
spies6rey (11:00:00 PM): levi,
spies6levi (11:00:02 PM): That Jenya had a role
spies6Tiberius (11:00:02 PM): as i said rey
spies6rey (11:00:10 PM): i told the role RIGHT after the imprisonment
spies6levi (11:00:15 PM): I know that
spies6Tiberius (11:00:19 PM): i'm still leaning amelia,and i hadnt HEARD THE CASE AGAINST YOU yet
spies6rey (11:00:22 PM): the idea that it might be fake came after you mentioned it sometime in the main chat.
spies6rey (11:00:26 PM): i can't remember when.
spies6levi (11:00:28 PM): No
spies6rey (11:00:29 PM): but i can find the chat.
spies6levi (11:00:37 PM): It came
spies6levi (11:00:38 PM): Well before
spies6rey (11:00:41 PM): nope.
spies6levi (11:00:42 PM): the imprisonment
spies6rey (11:00:43 PM): i can find it.
spies6rey (11:00:47 PM): once sec, 'kay?
spies6levi (11:00:48 PM): It was at the chat where Sam introduced
spies6rey (11:00:51 PM): one*
spies6levi (11:00:51 PM): Sam Lies Week
spies6rey (11:00:54 PM): wait.
spies6levi (11:00:55 PM): I have the chat
spies6levi (11:01:00 PM): I can prove this
spies6rey (11:01:02 PM): say that slowly levi, haha.
spies6rey (11:01:13 PM): what are you saying? i thought we were talking about jenya's imprisonment.
spies6levi (11:01:17 PM): We are
spies6levi (11:01:22 PM): It came during Sam Lies Week
spies6rey (11:01:31 PM): yeah, you said the imprisonment could be fake, right?
spies6levi (11:01:31 PM): you are saying tha tthe possibility of the imprisonment being fake
spies6rey (11:01:35 PM): didn't you say it first?
spies6Georgia (11:01:37 PM): The introduction chat, where there were like.. five of us.
spies6levi (11:01:37 PM): Came up after Jenya's Imprisonment
spies6rey (11:01:39 PM): ALSO.
spies6levi (11:01:42 PM): *three
spies6levi (11:01:47 PM): That is a lie
spies6rey (11:01:49 PM): i don't remember everything i say, as you can tell.
spies6rey (11:01:52 PM): what is a lie?
spies6levi (11:01:59 PM): It came up before Jenya's Imprisonment
spies6rey (11:02:06 PM): what did?
spies6levi (11:02:15 PM): The fact that Jenya's Imprisonment could be a lie
spies6rey (11:02:15 PM): my saying she could have been imprisoned fake, right?
spies6rey (11:02:16 PM): yeah!
spies6rey (11:02:22 PM): the reason why i thought it was real;
spies6rey (11:02:26 PM): stop posting.
spies6rey (11:02:28 PM): let me explain.
spies6levi (11:02:34 PM): I'm sorry, but I really have to go
spies6rey (11:02:39 PM): SAM DIRECTLY PROVED HER A CITIZEN IN HIS GOODBYE TO HER
spies6levi (11:02:47 PM): You can explain to everyone else, but my vote is now null
spies6rey (11:02:51 PM): so i thought: hey, it can't be fake.
spies6levi (11:02:52 PM): Good luck in making a wise decision
spies6levi (11:02:58 PM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (11:03:03 PM): Was it ever confirmed, that teh alignment attributed in the fake imprisonement was truthful?
spies6Georgia (11:03:10 PM): Er bye Levi.
spies6pete (11:03:18 PM): 8 voters remain, 2 needed to block
spies6rey (11:03:24 PM): no, but i assumed that constantly chasing after spies trying to catch them would mean that she was a citizen.
spies6rey (11:03:33 PM): unless he was referring to her bussing her partners a lot ?
spies6Roxy (11:03:44 PM): lmao i love how levi "always has to go"
spies6Kirsten (11:03:57 PM): he has been here over 3 hours, Roxy
spies6Kirsten (11:04:01 PM): so it's not really that bad
spies6Roxy (11:04:10 PM): i know. but its always him.
spies6Georgia (11:04:10 PM): Okay. Any other Rey voters who haven't presented their case/reasons?
spies6rey (11:04:16 PM): yeah, more please.
spies6Georgia (11:04:18 PM): I think we need to wind this down.
spies6Ariel (11:04:22 PM): Have I?
spies6rey (11:04:23 PM): ariel, please come up to the stand.
spies6Ariel (11:04:25 PM): I don't believe I have.
spies6jenya (11:04:28 PM): Ariel!
spies6rey (11:04:31 PM): Ariel!
spies6Ariel (11:04:34 PM): Yes?
spies6pete (11:04:35 PM): ding ding ding round 3 start
spies6Ariel (11:04:36 PM):
spies6Ariel (11:04:40 PM): Alright.
spies6Kirsten (11:04:40 PM): Round 3, Fight
spies6rey (11:04:45 PM): let's see if ariel can defeat meh!
spies6Kirsten (11:04:52 PM): dun dun dun dun duh duh dun nuh dun nah!
spies6rey (11:05:00 PM): fightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfight !
spies6Ariel (11:05:15 PM): My first, and the thing I like least about you, is that you seem to react to any suspicion against you with attacks against the person making the suspicion.
spies6Georgia (11:05:16 PM): No fighting.
spies6Ariel (11:05:20 PM): I believe that's called "chainsawing".
spies6Georgia (11:05:23 PM): Keep this civil and orderly.
spies6rey (11:05:29 PM): wrong ariel, haha.
spies6Ariel (11:05:35 PM): I'm wrong?
spies6rey (11:05:38 PM): i already proved iris wrong about chainsawing in thread.
spies6rey (11:05:40 PM): with a link.
spies6rey (11:05:42 PM): do you want it?
spies6Kirsten (11:05:43 PM): That's called OMGUS
spies6rey (11:05:46 PM): yeah, haha.
spies6rey (11:05:48 PM): kirsten is right.
spies6Ariel (11:05:50 PM): Okay, I named it wrong. I'm sorry.
spies6Kirsten (11:05:52 PM): there's an acronym for everything
spies6Kirsten (11:05:54 PM):
spies6Georgia (11:05:56 PM): This is Ariel's case and reasons, Kirsten.
spies6rey (11:06:06 PM): anyways, ariel is wrong about point one.
spies6rey (11:06:07 PM): next!
spies6Ariel (11:06:09 PM): I believe that's called "OMGUS".
spies6Ariel (11:06:11 PM): Excuse me?
spies6Kirsten (11:06:11 PM): I'm just providing clarification, Georgia
spies6Ariel (11:06:18 PM): I was wrong about what I called it, but you still do it.
spies6rey (11:06:25 PM): uhh ariel
spies6rey (11:06:30 PM): ariel, defending yourself is not calling OMGUS.
spies6rey (11:06:37 PM): it's called defending yourself.
spies6Ariel (11:06:43 PM): By attacking others?
spies6Ariel (11:06:46 PM): What's that called?
spies6rey (11:06:57 PM): ariel, when have i attacked someone else with my suspicions right after they attacked me.
spies6rey (11:06:59 PM): when i say this
spies6rey (11:07:00 PM): i mean
spies6Ariel (11:07:01 PM): Did you, or did you not, just call Tiberius a "backstabber" moments after he evidenced suspicion of you?
spies6rey (11:07:11 PM): when have i SUSPECTED someone, right after THEY suspected me?
spies6rey (11:07:17 PM): yeah, i did ariel.
spies6Ariel (11:07:20 PM): That is not what I said.
spies6Ariel (11:07:26 PM): I said you attack someone if they evidence suspicion of you.
spies6rey (11:07:36 PM): okay?
spies6rey (11:07:42 PM): sounds scummy.
spies6rey (11:07:46 PM): ..not, by the way.
spies6Georgia (11:07:55 PM): -be right back-
spies6Ariel (11:07:57 PM): There are plenty of examples of when you've done it.
spies6Ariel (11:08:01 PM): Anyway. Next point.
spies6rey (11:08:10 PM): okay now for the first valid point hopefully!
spies6Ariel (11:08:17 PM): You see? You're doing it again.
spies6rey (11:08:27 PM): ^o^ ~ ♫
spies6rey (11:08:38 PM): hurry up, i'm not attacking you.
spies6Ariel (11:08:46 PM): The Pete "case".
spies6rey (11:08:48 PM): you consider any form of smart comment an attack.
spies6Ariel (11:08:57 PM): (You're doing it again, by the way.)
spies6Roxy (11:09:01 PM): ok im going since clearly there is nothing that really concerns me.
spies6rey (11:09:06 PM): no, i'm not attacking anyone ariel.
CPO0408 (11:09:10 PM) has left the room.
spies6Tiberius (11:09:14 PM): i care about your opinions roxy!
spies6rey (11:09:15 PM): they are right when they voted you light skinned or whatever.
spies6Ariel (11:09:23 PM): From what I read of your "case" on Pete, you twisted what you said.
spies6Roxy (11:09:25 PM): thanks tibz. =)
spies6Tiberius (11:09:27 PM): Proposal: That roxy make sweet sweet love to me
spies6rey (11:09:33 PM): O___O
spies6Kirsten (11:09:34 PM): BLOCK
spies6rey (11:09:37 PM): BLOCK
spies6Roxy (11:09:37 PM): o.o
spies6Kirsten (11:09:41 PM): Proposal fails
spies6Ariel (11:09:44 PM): I recall reading that you... hmm. Let me look at the PM.
spies6Roxy (11:09:51 PM): um.......
spies6Tiberius (11:09:52 PM):
spies6Georgia (11:09:54 PM): Keep it civil.
spies6rey (11:10:04 PM): bye roxy! D:
spies6Roxy (11:10:08 PM): but ill be happy to replace my self with kirsten
spies6Roxy (11:10:09 PM):
spies6Georgia (11:10:11 PM): -Jason the EmoPath-
spies6Roxy (11:10:13 PM): or should i say:
spies6Roxy (11:10:14 PM): kristen.
spies6Roxy (11:10:16 PM):
spies6rey (11:10:21 PM): OMG
spies6Kirsten (11:10:21 PM): *shakes fist*
spies6rey (11:10:26 PM): real identity REVEALED
sPIEs6Jason (11:10:27 PM): I don't think any Emopath can save Ariel and Rey
spies6rey (11:10:48 PM):
spies6Georgia (11:10:54 PM): And people *ahemspecificnames* said I couldn't be levelheaded.
spies6Georgia (11:10:56 PM):
spies6rey (11:11:01 PM): poor emopath. *pat pat*
spies6Ariel (11:11:34 PM): Ah.
spies6Roxy (11:11:56 PM): my opinion for tubz: um....i love how the attention got suddenly veered off of amelia even though she was like -this- close from being the exile last round.
spies6Ariel (11:12:13 PM): Okay, I'm talking about the Jaya exile now.
spies6Ariel (11:12:17 PM): (I'm not good at this!)
spies6rey (11:12:34 PM): ariel, i thought you had some PM against me?
spies6Ariel (11:12:38 PM): When you said that you thought Jaya was a bad exile because Almathea "attacked" her.
spies6rey (11:12:45 PM): oh well, ppoint #2 failed too.
spies6rey (11:12:48 PM): so this is 3 right?
spies6rey (11:12:54 PM): yeah, ariel.
spies6rey (11:13:00 PM): i did, and this was explained already.
spies6Tiberius (11:13:05 PM): thanks roxy, i agre with you still
spies6Ariel (11:13:09 PM): Almathea called Jaya "lurkery". Once.
spies6rey (11:13:10 PM): this was on the LAST DAY before exile, by the way.
spies6rey (11:13:14 PM): yeah.
spies6Tiberius (11:13:14 PM): even though i'm getting more willing to "give in" at this point
spies6rey (11:13:22 PM): i already said i hunt using interactions and reactions
spies6rey (11:13:28 PM): that was a big interactions
spies6rey (11:13:36 PM): she said gabriela and jaya were probably spies for lurking.
spies6Roxy (11:13:37 PM): ok g'night
spies6Roxy (11:13:39 PM) has left the room.
spies6rey (11:13:47 PM): seems pretty clearing to me-ish.
spies6Ariel (11:13:56 PM): Yes... but I wouldn't qualify that as an "attack".
spies6rey (11:14:01 PM): huh?
spies6rey (11:14:03 PM): oh.
spies6rey (11:14:09 PM): i thought you meant i attacked you.
spies6rey (11:14:11 PM): anyways.
spies6Ariel (11:14:13 PM): No, not at all.
spies6Ariel (11:14:15 PM):
spies6rey (11:14:19 PM): it was more of suspicion.
spies6rey (11:14:21 PM): not attack.
spies6rey (11:14:34 PM): i use the wrong words sometimes i guess.
spies6rey (11:14:38 PM): i type too fast.
spies6rey (11:14:41 PM): i don't think of what i type.
sPIEs6Jason (11:14:44 PM): Proposal: Rey and Ariel get married tonight
lexprod2000 (11:14:50 PM) has been invited.
spies6Ariel (11:14:50 PM): Next point.
spies6jenya (11:14:55 PM): seconded
spies6Ariel (11:14:55 PM): William.
spies6Ariel (11:14:59 PM): BLOCK.
spies6rey (11:15:00 PM): BLOCK
spies6pete (11:15:03 PM): block
spies6Tiberius (11:15:04 PM): damnit
sPIEs6Jason (11:15:05 PM): Foiled -_-
spies6rey (11:15:07 PM): yay!
lexprod2000 (11:15:07 PM) has entered the room.
spies6rey (11:15:20 PM): anyways.
spies6rey (11:15:22 PM): william ?
spies6Ariel (11:15:24 PM): This point has not been explained to my satisfaction, Rey -
spies6Ariel (11:15:32 PM): You knew William had a role, yet you wanted to exile him anyway.
spies6Ariel (11:15:33 PM): Why?
sPIEs6Jason (11:15:39 PM): (See? Ariel wants Rey to satisfy her)
spies6rey (11:15:42 PM): ariel, i did not KNOW he had a role.
spies6rey (11:15:51 PM): not at the time of me voting him.
spies6rey (11:15:58 PM): if there is ANYTHING that proves that wrong.
spies6rey (11:16:02 PM): please bring it up.
spies6rey (11:16:05 PM): i know there is nothing.
spies6rey (11:16:07 PM): 100%.
spies6jenya (11:16:14 PM): You told me you were aware he might have one.
spies6rey (11:16:15 PM): because i know i didn't know he had a role FOR SURE.
spies6rey (11:16:17 PM): yeah.
spies6rey (11:16:24 PM): i said khaled and ariel were HINTING at it.
spies6rey (11:16:28 PM): khaled especially.
spies6rey (11:16:42 PM): but just because someone hints at a role doesn't mean i'm going to stop suspecting them.
spies6Ariel (11:16:43 PM): spies6jenya (7:47:04 PM): What do you think of William's claim?
spies6jenya (7:47:08 PM): I don't like Iris's at all.
spies6rey (7:48:16 PM): i don't know about william's claim because i haven't heard it, but i have heard khaled and ariel referencing some ulterior reason they don't think william is a spy, but iris' sounds pretty far-fetched the more i think about it.


spies6Georgia (11:16:44 PM): Why shouldn't REy and Ariel get married? Their fighting is all a show anyways, right?
spies6rey (11:16:46 PM): i mean, look ariel.
spies6rey (11:16:52 PM): you kept exiling callahan.
spies6Tiberius (11:16:55 PM): I agree with jason, the sexual tension is suffocating
spies6rey (11:17:00 PM): even though khaled and iris hinted at him having a role.
spies6rey (11:17:05 PM): that is the same situation with me.
spies6rey (11:17:06 PM): anyways.
spies6rey (11:17:08 PM): let me read that
spies6Ariel (11:17:12 PM): Bah.
spies6rey (11:17:24 PM): spies6rey (7:48:16 PM): i don't know about william's claim because i haven't heard it
spies6Ariel (11:17:26 PM): You said that you hadn't heard William's claim.
spies6rey (11:17:28 PM): SEE.
spies6Ariel (11:17:34 PM): Yet that implies that you knew William had made one.
spies6rey (11:17:37 PM): no.
sPIEs6Jason (11:17:46 PM): They seriously sound like my ex and I in a fight before the crazy makeup sex, it's got to happen
spies6rey (11:17:48 PM): jenya STRONGLY hinted he had a role that point.
spies6rey (11:17:53 PM): which is AFTER the exile.
spies6Ariel (11:17:57 PM): In fact, Jenya told you flat out that William claimed.
spies6rey (11:18:00 PM): she asked me if i believed his claim.
spies6Ariel (11:18:03 PM): Right.
spies6rey (11:18:04 PM): and i acted like i knew about it.
spies6Tiberius (11:18:13 PM): you know it jason, it'll be hot and spicy when it does
spies6rey (11:18:13 PM): 'cause i like to act like i'm in the know.
spies6Ariel (11:18:19 PM): Then how do we know you're not "acting" like a Citizen?
spies6Ariel (11:18:23 PM): No further questions, Your Honor.
spies6jenya (11:18:24 PM): You didn't want to use his claim to help evaluate him?
sPIEs6Jason (11:18:31 PM): It'll be the best selling dvd of the month
spies6rey (11:18:32 PM): well i would hope that all citizens would act like a citize.
spies6rey (11:18:39 PM): if they didn't, we would lose the game to the spies.
spies6rey (11:18:40 PM): citizen*
spies6Kirsten (11:18:42 PM): AReyal
spies6Georgia (11:18:44 PM): Hearing that someone made a claim, does not mean they know for sure that the person actually made a claim.
spies6rey (11:18:50 PM): thank you georgia.
spies6Georgia (11:18:56 PM): Nor what the person claimed.
spies6Tiberius (11:19:02 PM): Wait, they're taping it jason?
spies6rey (11:19:04 PM): and no jenya.
spies6rey (11:19:06 PM): like i said.
spies6Tiberius (11:19:06 PM): that's wonderful news
spies6rey (11:19:16 PM): i do not go up to people ask them if they have a role.
spies6Ariel (11:19:27 PM): Jason, just a thought - Perhaps the "Empath" shouldn't add to the tension
sPIEs6Jason (11:19:28 PM): I've got cameras all throughout the Burg
spies6rey (11:19:28 PM): mirela would suspect the shit out of me if i asked her about her role.
spies6Kirsten (11:19:30 PM): you just tell roles you already know to them
spies6Ariel (11:19:33 PM): Because you're really getting on my nerves.
spies6Kirsten (11:19:33 PM): (burn)
spies6Georgia (11:19:41 PM): If Rey had heard that William was claiming a role, he should've questioned William about it. To discover the truth.
spies6Tiberius (11:19:46 PM): ah, good thinking then jason
sPIEs6Jason (11:19:49 PM): I'm sorry Ariel I had to turn to alcohol
spies6rey (11:20:01 PM): georgia, i thought it was PRIVATE.
spies6rey (11:20:07 PM): i mean, when i first entered the room,
spies6Georgia (11:20:09 PM): What was Private?
spies6rey (11:20:12 PM): ariel and khaled were like
spies6rey (11:20:15 PM): DONT TELL REY WHAT HAPPENED
spies6rey (11:20:32 PM): and i always act normal even if i get hurt by what people say.
spies6rey (11:20:39 PM): so i didn't really react to that.
spies6rey (11:20:43 PM): but i did want to know.
spies6Tiberius (11:20:43 PM): I thought we were releaving the tension jason, o well
spies6Georgia (11:20:59 PM): So WIlliam revealed his role to Ariel and Khaled. Then you entired the room, and They said not to talk about it.. or something?
spies6pete (11:20:59 PM): post though no prod
spies6Georgia (11:21:03 PM): Or not to talk about it to you?
spies6rey (11:21:11 PM): i entered the room
spies6rey (11:21:13 PM): they said
sPIEs6Jason (11:21:14 PM): Lol Tibby we tried
spies6rey (11:21:17 PM): DONT TELL REY WHAT JUST HAPPENED
spies6Ariel (11:21:20 PM): Of course we said that.
sPIEs6Jason (11:21:24 PM): When that video is posted we can really relieve the tension
spies6rey (11:21:24 PM): so i stayed voting william
spies6Ariel (11:21:25 PM): It's /Rey/.
spies6Ariel (11:21:27 PM):
spies6rey (11:21:33 PM): how what i supposed to know if he had a role or not?
spies6Ariel (11:21:38 PM): I would have said the same if anyone else had entered at that moment.
spies6Tiberius (11:21:39 PM): mmm, spiceah
spies6rey (11:21:51 PM): LOL wow.
spies6Georgia (11:21:53 PM): Well if you said not to tell Rey about William's role. Then how canyou accuse him of knowing William's role, and continuing to vote for him?
spies6rey (11:21:56 PM): i thought ariel said what tibby said.
spies6rey (11:21:57 PM): creepy.
spies6Tiberius (11:22:03 PM): lol
spies6Georgia (11:22:05 PM): That implies, that you KNEW that Rey didn't know about William's role.
spies6rey (11:23:13 PM): anyways.
spies6Georgia (11:23:16 PM): What is your theory on Rey figuring out/knowin William's role then?
spies6Georgia (11:23:22 PM): *knowing
spies6rey (11:23:28 PM): everyone BESIDES jason has adressed their suspicions of me that voted me.
spies6rey (11:23:32 PM): so jason, you are up. (:
spies6Kirsten (11:23:38 PM): Rey is aware that William has a role around 2PM the Day of Faith's exile:

spies6rey (12:06:49 PM): spies6william (5:30:36 PM):do you have a citizen role that protected you in exile 3: yes, no, or no comment
spies6rey (12:06:54 PM): do you find that suspicious?
spies6Jenya (12:08:46 PM): No.
spies6Jenya (12:08:55 PM): I'd tell the truth.
spies6Jenya (12:09:11 PM): Sounds like he has a role or knows someone who does.
spies6Jenya (12:09:21 PM): Could be a spy, but then why the fuck would he spill that to you?
spies6Jenya (12:09:30 PM): Wow.
spies6Jenya (12:10:10 PM): Rey.. this is huge. I think he has a role.. or some info about one.
spies6Jenya (12:10:25 PM): Why else would he ask you about that?

spies6Ariel (11:23:47 PM): Thank you, Kirsten. I was looking for that.
spies6rey (11:23:54 PM): no.
sPIEs6Jason (11:23:58 PM): Lol it looks like I have to wait more -_-
spies6rey (11:23:58 PM): JENYA said that, haha.
spies6rey (11:24:02 PM): spies6Jenya (12:10:10 PM): Rey.. this is huge. I think he has a role.. or some info about one.
spies6Ariel (11:24:06 PM): Yes, TO YOU.
spies6rey (11:24:07 PM): did she send you my response?
spies6rey (11:24:17 PM): post my response.
spies6rey (11:24:19 PM): don't cut that out.
spies6Kirsten (11:24:24 PM): I haven't seen it
spies6Kirsten (11:24:26 PM): so I don't know
spies6jenya (11:24:26 PM): You knew it was being discussed, Rey, you told me you didn't want to know the details.
spies6rey (11:24:33 PM): LOL jenya.
spies6Georgia (11:24:39 PM): That still does not show that Rey KNEW William had a role.
spies6rey (11:24:42 PM): i didn't say i knew william's role was being discussed.
spies6rey (11:24:47 PM): well
spies6rey (11:24:55 PM): besides KHALED so obviously pointing it out.
spies6rey (11:25:16 PM): if you are getting mad at people outing roles jenya, it should be KHALED.
spies6rey (11:25:20 PM): it was SO obvious.
spies6Kirsten (11:25:26 PM): so you did know
spies6Kirsten (11:25:27 PM): thanks
spies6rey (11:25:28 PM): no.
spies6Ariel (11:25:30 PM): XD
spies6Kirsten (11:25:31 PM): no?
spies6Kirsten (11:25:40 PM): then what's this about Khaled outing it?
spies6rey (11:25:43 PM): i had the idea that william had a role, since khaled was hinting at it SO MUCH.
spies6rey (11:25:44 PM): no,
spies6rey (11:25:49 PM): he hinted at it SO obviously.
spies6rey (11:25:56 PM): i didn't know that william actually had one.
spies6rey (11:25:58 PM): nor did i know what it was.
spies6Ariel (11:26:26 PM): Rey, is it a fair question to say that you were "pretty sure" William had a role, once you heard Khaled hinting at it?
spies6rey (11:26:39 PM): well it's faith, since i brought it up with jenya. so yes.
spies6rey (11:26:45 PM): but as a spy,
caseyisgodmmk (11:26:50 PM) has left the room.
spies6rey (11:27:06 PM): why would i waste an imprisonment on someone i THINK has a role, that i could possibly force an exile on later anyways?
spies6rey (11:27:17 PM): for all i knew, it was the stupidest role ever.
spies6rey (11:27:20 PM): and you know WHAT.
spies6rey (11:27:22 PM): it WAS.
spies6Georgia (11:27:23 PM): If you had the idea that William had a role, did you confront William to seek the truth?
spies6rey (11:27:24 PM): it was useless.
spies6Kirsten (11:27:25 PM): because if they have a role, you wouldn't be able to force an exile on them later
spies6rey (11:27:32 PM): i would never have wasted an imprisonment on william.
spies6rey (11:27:34 PM): he did NOTHING.
spies6rey (11:27:40 PM): and no, i didn't georgia.
spies6rey (11:28:02 PM): and no kirsten, i could have said that there was a eugenist from last season when i was informed (assuming i was a spy)
spies6rey (11:28:16 PM): and then say that what are the chances there is one in this season.. AGAIN.
spies6Kirsten (11:28:19 PM): There was also a protector from last season (Ellis)
spies6Kirsten (11:28:22 PM): so no
spies6rey (11:28:25 PM): yeah ..
spies6rey (11:28:28 PM): the SPY version.
spies6rey (11:28:42 PM): and this one protects imprisonments AND exiles.
spies6Kirsten (11:28:53 PM): The point remains, there was another carry over role
sPIEs6Jason (11:28:58 PM): It's a bomination of the Protector role and another role used in Spies 5
sPIEs6Jason (11:29:04 PM): bombination, combination...
spies6rey (11:29:07 PM): yeah, i wouldn't have believe william's role if he claimed to me by the way.
spies6Tiberius (11:29:13 PM): i like bombination better anyway
spies6rey (11:29:16 PM): just for everyone's information.
spies6Georgia (11:29:19 PM): Why not Rey?
spies6Kirsten (11:29:23 PM): You can't honestly tell me that as a spy, you would want to give a citizen a chacne to claim, because you think that you could get them exiled after their claim
sPIEs6Jason (11:29:29 PM): Me too, lets bombination!
spies6rey (11:29:32 PM): i don't think that there would be ANOTHER eugenist like last season.
spies6rey (11:29:41 PM): kirsten..
spies6Kirsten (11:29:57 PM): also, you didn't know his role at the time, or so you claim
spies6Ariel (11:30:03 PM): This meeting needs to get back on track, I think.
spies6rey (11:30:05 PM): i'm saying that as a spy why would i waste an imprisonment on a person with suspicion?
spies6Kirsten (11:30:14 PM): why would anyone do that?
spies6rey (11:30:15 PM): who cares what his role is, let him get exiled if i am a spy.
sPIEs6Jason (11:30:19 PM): Secnd Ariel's point... we need to reach a decision soon
spies6rey (11:30:21 PM): to get rid of a citizen?
spies6Tiberius (11:30:24 PM): third ariel
sPIEs6Jason (11:30:36 PM): We're talking about things that we've discussed already in the Burg and rehashing the same arguments
spies6Kirsten (11:30:40 PM): you're saying "Why would I imprisone William." as though it clears you, when you could ask that same qeustion to everyone else.
spies6rey (11:30:44 PM): yeah, jason is right.
spies6Kirsten (11:30:46 PM): OK
spies6rey (11:30:54 PM): wait!
spies6rey (11:30:55 PM): no!
spies6rey (11:31:00 PM): i want to hear why jason suspects me.
spies6rey (11:31:03 PM): he is the last one that voted me.
sPIEs6Jason (11:31:08 PM): ok
sPIEs6Jason (11:31:29 PM): first of all... You pushed several Spies early, which is good... but you abruptly pulled off of them both... Alma and Jaya
spies6rey (11:31:36 PM): jason, to be honest i found it suspicious right away when you said that you only suspected me a little, yet you voted me.
spies6rey (11:31:43 PM): in this very chat.
spies6Ariel (11:31:54 PM): (THAT's chainsawing, right?)
sPIEs6Jason (11:31:54 PM): And almost succeeded in saving Jaya.... and also asked that Alma be saved
spies6rey (11:31:59 PM): no ariel.
spies6rey (11:32:04 PM): it's not.
sPIEs6Jason (11:32:07 PM): I didnt say I suspected you a little I said you were barely my vote over Amelia
spies6rey (11:32:07 PM): want the link?
sPIEs6Jason (11:32:09 PM): But anyways
spies6jenya (11:32:20 PM): yes
spies6pete (11:32:25 PM): 4 hours guys.....
spies6rey (11:32:30 PM): jenya, you want it?
sPIEs6Jason (11:32:40 PM): You've also been a huge source of drama and distractions... and if you look at the Spies imprisonments... they've almost all been quiet people... why? It seems like their gameplan
spies6Tiberius (11:32:44 PM): rey you ask for jason's thoughts
spies6Tiberius (11:32:50 PM): then dont defend aganst them
spies6rey (11:32:59 PM): mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tarhalindur_Standard_Tells#Chainsaw_Defense_.28Tarhalindur_Version.29
sPIEs6Jason (11:33:01 PM): And it fits perfectly with a gameplan that involves distrtacting the Burg by fghting and name calling and arguments
spies6rey (11:33:08 PM): tibby, i'm letting him post it all first.
spies6Tiberius (11:33:14 PM): ok
spies6rey (11:33:14 PM): be patient, tibby-sheep.
spies6Tiberius (11:33:32 PM): another insult, awesome
sPIEs6Jason (11:33:42 PM): Then there's your reactions to each Citizen lately... AFTER they're exiled and not before
spies6rey (11:33:44 PM): whatever fatty, stay quiet while jason posts.
spies6Georgia (11:33:52 PM): Jason, have you talked about this theory with other people?
sPIEs6Jason (11:33:54 PM): You didn't defend Thor even thought you heard Kirsten say he might go
spies6Georgia (11:33:59 PM): (sorry to interrupt)
sPIEs6Jason (11:34:08 PM): I'm drunk and I'm not really sure Georgia but I dont think so
spies6Georgia (11:34:16 PM): Okay.
spies6Tiberius (11:34:26 PM): dont play spies drunk yo
spies6Tiberius (11:34:31 PM): but proceed
sPIEs6Jason (11:34:32 PM): And then AFTER his fate was sealed you became indignant and angry...
spies6rey (11:35:12 PM): done?
sPIEs6Jason (11:35:16 PM): All of that and the fact that everyone in our original group has been slowly getting picked off, and somewhere you mentioned that it would be good to keep picking us off
sPIEs6Jason (11:35:29 PM): And I think you're the most dangerous suspect I ahve
spies6rey (11:35:43 PM): don't know why you included that last part.
spies6rey (11:35:45 PM): are you done?
sPIEs6Jason (11:36:00 PM): Yes I think so..
spies6rey (11:36:06 PM): okay let me scroll.
sPIEs6Jason (11:36:18 PM): Scroll out, scroll out..
spies6Georgia (11:36:28 PM): While you are scrolling. I'd like to interrupt for a second.
spies6rey (11:36:33 PM): okay so for the first point of yours, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED a million times by the way.
spies6Georgia (11:36:37 PM): Nevermind.
spies6rey (11:36:47 PM): as a spy, what reason would i have to BUS two of my partners until the DAY of exile?
spies6Tiberius (11:36:48 PM): no i want to hear georgia's point
spies6rey (11:36:51 PM): answer that for me please.
spies6Tiberius (11:36:55 PM): if it quick
spies6rey (11:36:56 PM): next point of yours.
spies6rey (11:37:15 PM): i was not even CLOSE to saving jaya LOL so i'm ignoring the rest of that post.
spies6rey (11:37:24 PM): drama.. distractions..
spies6rey (11:37:37 PM): so mirela, roxy, and others are not spies due to that either, right?
sPIEs6Jason (11:37:44 PM): Ok, it makes you look good later on. You bus them early, then pull off, they don't go, but if they DO go later you point at that and say "Well I tried"
spies6rey (11:37:48 PM): since MIRELA AND ROXY are the ones that first attack me everywhere.
spies6rey (11:37:58 PM): yeah.. definitely.
spies6rey (11:38:08 PM): let's name call and hope that the citizens think i'm too mean to exile!
spies6Georgia (11:38:17 PM): (would like to make a point/coment about the dram/distractions point against Rey, please?)
spies6rey (11:38:19 PM): because getting on everyone's nerves will DEFINITELY make me avoid exile.
spies6rey (11:38:25 PM): smart idea, jason!
spies6Tiberius (11:38:27 PM): Rey should never accuse someone else of name calling again
spies6rey (11:38:33 PM): I DID DEFEND FAITH
spies6Ariel (11:38:34 PM): (OMGUS, Rey, again.)
spies6Kirsten (11:38:34 PM): (I'd like to make a point about the busing) But let's wait until Rey is done
spies6rey (11:38:40 PM): so don't bring that up jason.
spies6rey (11:38:42 PM): and about thor.
spies6rey (11:38:55 PM): i seriously didn't think thor would be exiled.
spies6rey (11:39:09 PM): when kirsten said that, i was under the assumption she was both voting amelia and that the majority was on her.
spies6rey (11:39:18 PM): next point
spies6rey (11:39:29 PM): i never said picking off players from team clusterfuck would be good,
spies6rey (11:39:33 PM): i'm 100% sure of that.
spies6rey (11:39:41 PM): i said it would likely happen, not that was good.
spies6rey (11:40:00 PM): most dangerous suspect?
spies6rey (11:40:17 PM): i still don't see the point of including that, unless you just wanted to lengthen your case.
spies6rey (11:40:39 PM): sPIEs6Jason (10:37:46 PM): Ok, it makes you look good later on. You bus them early, then pull off, they don't go, but if they DO go later you point at that and say "Well I tried"
spies6rey (11:40:40 PM): LOL
spies6rey (11:40:45 PM): LOL*
spies6rey (11:40:54 PM): this is really grasping at straws, jason.
spies6Ariel (11:41:02 PM): (OMGUS again.)
spies6Tiberius (11:41:10 PM): [OMGUS ALARM]
spies6rey (11:41:19 PM): what?
sPIEs6Jason (11:41:21 PM): Not really it's a valid possibility
spies6rey (11:41:30 PM): you guys are SO bad at mafia, i'm not even joking.
spies6rey (11:41:37 PM): USE THE TERMINOLOGY correctly please.
spies6Georgia (11:41:39 PM): Civility.
spies6rey (11:41:40 PM): seriously.
spies6Kirsten (11:41:47 PM): I don't think Rey meant to bus Almathea. He's just egotistical and has to be right about everything. He tried to pull off but was too far invested.
JohnNT316 (11:41:58 PM) has left the room.
spies6Ariel (11:42:00 PM): Can I propose that we make Georgia the one that calms everyone else down?
spies6rey (11:42:01 PM): OMGUS is voting/accusing someone that is accusing/voting you.
spies6rey (11:42:06 PM): i hope that clears things up.
spies6rey (11:42:10 PM): for you ariel/tibby.
spies6Tiberius (11:42:16 PM): at least while it's jason/rey ariel that may be a good idea
spies6Georgia (11:42:18 PM): *dies at Ariel's "proposal" *
spies6Kirsten (11:42:20 PM): Rey saying that Jason was grasping at straws isn't OMGUS, by the way
spies6rey (11:42:37 PM): thank you kirsten.
spies6Ariel (11:42:40 PM): Okay, there's got to be SOME term for it.
spies6rey (11:42:48 PM): i like having a person with mafia background.
spies6Georgia (11:42:51 PM): Term for what. What is he doing Ariel?
spies6Kirsten (11:42:54 PM): haha, not really. There's nothing wrong about saying that you think the case against you is weak.
spies6rey (11:43:02 PM): i'm not doing anything wrong.
spies6Georgia (11:43:06 PM): Why do arguments need to be swept underneath an acronym?
sPIEs6Jason (11:43:08 PM): Well if you guys think I'm so bad at my job then I quit, sorry for failing you all at it
spies6rey (11:43:16 PM): ariel just likes to make up words for things that aren't even suspicious.
spies6Georgia (11:43:19 PM): No Jason. You are doing a fine job.
spies6Ariel (11:43:21 PM): ....
spies6pete (11:43:25 PM): ...jason you serious?
spies6Ariel (11:43:30 PM): Rey, you are just a mean person, aren't you.
sPIEs6Jason (11:43:32 PM): No I'm not... someone else can have it
spies6Georgia (11:43:33 PM): Civility Rey.
spies6Tiberius (11:43:34 PM): When Jason's done I have one, small, sorta weak but interestingish point about rey i'd like to bring up
spies6rey (11:43:36 PM): ariel, i'm TELLING you what i think.
spies6Georgia (11:43:41 PM): We need to focus here.
spies6rey (11:43:42 PM): you are saying i am chainsawing..
spies6rey (11:43:44 PM): OMGUSing..
sPIEs6Jason (11:43:50 PM): I'm done so it's all you Tibby
spies6Tiberius (11:43:50 PM): Jason you're good at your job
spies6rey (11:43:51 PM): and i am doing nothing of the kind.
spies6rey (11:43:56 PM): i defended myself really well i think ariel.
spies6Georgia (11:43:59 PM): Yes, these long hours. The more focus we lose, then longer we will be here.
spies6Tiberius (11:44:06 PM): wait no, i dont want it at all
spies6rey (11:44:07 PM): i think you are a citizen and are TUNNELING on me.
spies6Ariel (11:44:11 PM): I may be thin-skinned, but you're just plain mean.
spies6rey (11:44:19 PM): so i am trying my hardest to defend myself against you.
spies6Ariel (11:44:20 PM): Kirsten, get us back on track, please.
spies6Georgia (11:44:24 PM): We have to exile someone. If we aren't focused... then the exile probably will go badly and be made off of emotions rather than logic.
spies6Kirsten (11:44:27 PM): In rey's defense I feel like he has been civil this meeting for the most part
spies6rey (11:44:30 PM): but there is NO way to change your mind because you will not listen to any of my defenses.
spies6Kirsten (11:44:44 PM): But I still think he's a spy
spies6Tiberius (11:44:49 PM): Kirsten and Georgia seem to have switched jobs
spies6Tiberius (11:45:01 PM): Kirsten's DAing and Georgia's running shit yo
spies6Georgia (11:45:02 PM): No. I'm the DA Tiberius.
spies6Kirsten (11:45:07 PM): Meh, I don't feel the need to faciliate...we're just discussing right now
spies6Kirsten (11:45:20 PM): if someone wants to make a proposal, I'll facilitate the living shit out of that
spies6Tiberius (11:45:25 PM): lol
spies6rey (11:45:36 PM): do you think me, as a spy, would also ask callahan to claim a role if iris was doing the same?
spies6Kirsten (11:45:41 PM): Yes
spies6rey (11:45:42 PM): hy would i bring up the lie iris made about her role? levi was obviously not smart enough to do it.

spies6Ariel (11:45:44 PM): I propose that we run another pre-exile vote to see where everyone stands after all the defenses.
spies6Kirsten (11:45:50 PM): I think Iris gave Callahan a gift, and you guys were trying to get it out of him
spies6Georgia (11:45:51 PM): Jason you are still the EmoPath. A Proposal has not been passed to remove you from your job. So please keep with it.
spies6rey (11:46:03 PM): I led the exile on Almathea, when Jocelyn was pretty much exiled.
spies6Kirsten (11:46:05 PM): Because Iris was a sinking ship...might as well be the harpoon that sinks it
spies6rey (11:46:09 PM): I've been online for every imprisonment.
spies6jenya (11:46:10 PM): Joc wasnt exiled at all
spies6Ariel (11:46:12 PM): Excuse me.
spies6jenya (11:46:16 PM): Everyone was anti-lurker exile
spies6Ariel (11:46:17 PM): *points at proposal*
spies6rey (11:46:24 PM): I question frequently, and constantly scum hunt.
sPIEs6Jason (11:46:30 PM): It's ok Georgia I'm bad and ineffective
spies6rey (11:46:32 PM): I'm never sure on my vote, whereas a spy would know who is a spy and who isn't.
spies6Tiberius (11:46:40 PM): Proposal: The DA must make a counterargument after a case is proposed and magic numbered but before votes
spies6Tiberius (11:46:43 PM): oops
spies6rey (11:46:44 PM): Why wouldn't I tell Jaya to bus Almathea with me if I was a spy?
spies6Tiberius (11:46:45 PM): didnt mean to send that yet
spies6Georgia (11:46:45 PM): Jason. Say no to the emo feelings.
spies6Tiberius (11:46:48 PM): cancel it
spies6Ariel (11:46:50 PM): EXCUSE ME.
spies6rey (11:46:54 PM): spies6rey (3:15:27 PM): LOL i shouldn't be talking to you, you migth get a spy role for all i know.

From a conversation with Pete pre-game.
spies6Ariel (11:46:55 PM): *points at proposal, again*
spies6Georgia (11:46:59 PM): One proposal at a time.
spies6rey (11:47:01 PM): why would i say that knowing my alignment?
spies6Georgia (11:47:03 PM): Ariel, restate it
spies6jenya (11:47:06 PM): "spies6rey (4:16:33 PM):i said that i would like to no lynch, but i never suggested it."
spies6rey (11:47:11 PM): i am defending myself REALLY well.
sPIEs6Jason (11:47:11 PM): I secoind Ariels proposal
spies6rey (11:47:14 PM): i don't see anything wrong.
spies6Ariel (11:47:16 PM): I propose that we run another pre-exile vote to see where everyone stands after all the defenses.
spies6Kirsten (11:47:20 PM): Third
spies6Ariel (11:47:20 PM): Seconded by Jason.
sPIEs6Jason (11:47:20 PM): Second
spies6Ariel (11:47:24 PM): Thirded by Kirsten.
spies6rey (11:47:24 PM): Third
spies6Ariel (11:47:25 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Georgia (11:47:26 PM): To what purpose Ariel?
spies6Kirsten (11:47:30 PM): VOTE on running another "pre-exile vote" to see where we all stand
spies6rey (11:47:33 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Tiberius (11:47:33 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Georgia (11:47:34 PM): Was Jason finished?
spies6jenya (11:47:35 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (11:47:36 PM): Vote Yes
spies6pete (11:47:36 PM): vote yes
sPIEs6Jason (11:47:39 PM): Yes I'm finished
sPIEs6Jason (11:47:42 PM): Vote Yes
spies6Georgia (11:47:50 PM): Yes
spies6Kirsten (11:47:51 PM): 7, how many are here
spies6Kirsten (11:47:53 PM): 8
spies6Kirsten (11:47:54 PM): It passes
spies6Kirsten (11:48:07 PM): Everyone may now state who they would vote. That's it, just state your ovte
spies6Kirsten (11:48:11 PM): Rey
spies6Ariel (11:48:12 PM): Rey.
spies6rey (11:48:13 PM): Vote: Amelia
sPIEs6Jason (11:48:16 PM): Rey
spies6jenya (11:48:19 PM): Rey
spies6pete (11:48:23 PM): rey
spies6Tiberius (11:48:23 PM): Vote: Amelia, but weakening
spies6Georgia (11:48:38 PM): Tiberius
spies6Kirsten (11:48:48 PM): that's everyone
spies6Georgia (11:48:57 PM): Only eight left?
spies6Georgia (11:49:02 PM): oh yeah levi left.
spies6Ariel (11:49:02 PM): Right.
spies6rey (11:49:08 PM): well there is two people needed to veto my votes...
spies6Kirsten (11:49:08 PM): Proposal: Everyone say whether or not you would move to block a Rey exile
spies6Ariel (11:49:17 PM): Seconded.
spies6Tiberius (11:49:19 PM): Third
spies6pete (11:49:23 PM): vote yes
spies6Ariel (11:49:26 PM): (don't need to third)
spies6rey (11:49:27 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Ariel (11:49:28 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6jenya (11:49:28 PM): vote no
spies6Tiberius (11:49:30 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6Georgia (11:49:31 PM): To what purpose Kirsten?
spies6rey (11:49:39 PM): to see if i would be exiled.
spies6rey (11:49:40 PM): obviously.
spies6Kirsten (11:49:42 PM): OK, Voting Yes means you would block a Rey exile. Voting no means you would not move to block
spies6jenya (11:49:43 PM): oh, vote yes on proposal lol
sPIEs6Jason (11:49:48 PM): we're voting on if we WOULD block a Rey exile?
spies6Kirsten (11:49:50 PM): Votes start now
spies6jenya (11:49:53 PM): vote no
sPIEs6Jason (11:49:54 PM): No
spies6Kirsten (11:49:57 PM): No
spies6pete (11:49:57 PM): no
spies6Ariel (11:49:58 PM): Vote: No
spies6Georgia (11:50:07 PM): To what Purpose Kirsten?
spies6Tiberius (11:50:07 PM): ugh... hestitantly... no
spies6Kirsten (11:50:22 PM): Basically, not everyone wants to vote for Rey, but that doesn't mean everyone would also block an exile on him
spies6Kirsten (11:50:35 PM): like Tiberius may prefer Amelia, but wouldn't block a Rey exile
spies6Tiberius (11:50:35 PM): <<< case in point
spies6Tiberius (11:50:42 PM): xatco
spies6Ariel (11:51:07 PM): Should we go ahead and vote for Exile?
spies6Kirsten (11:51:10 PM): need Georgia's vote
spies6Georgia (11:51:26 PM): yes, I probably would.
spies6Tiberius (11:51:30 PM): ariel i want to make a proposal beforehand
spies6Kirsten (11:51:40 PM): Georgia would block a Rey exile?
spies6pete (11:51:43 PM): georgia is willing to elongate this
spies6Georgia (11:51:46 PM): Yes.
spies6Kirsten (11:51:48 PM): ok
spies6Kirsten (11:51:50 PM): so that's two votes against
spies6Ariel (11:51:51 PM): With Rey's Auto-block, and Georgia's block, Rey would not be exiled.
spies6Georgia (11:51:52 PM): No, I'm not willing to elongate this.
spies6Kirsten (11:51:55 PM): a Rey exile would not pass right now
spies6pete (11:52:02 PM): to what purpose georgia? what do you aim to have happen?
spies6Georgia (11:52:04 PM): But I have many questions that I would like answered.
spies6jenya (11:52:15 PM): I would like to raise a few points for Rey to defend. I'll defer to Georgia.
sPIEs6Jason (11:52:16 PM): Lets ask and answer lol
spies6Georgia (11:52:17 PM): Yet some are to people who are not here.
spies6Tiberius (11:52:18 PM): well i still would like to make my proposal now so it doesnt get lost in a firestorm anyway

[Judge Sam]

spies6Tiberius (11:52:20 PM): Proposal: The DA must make a counterargument after a case is proposed and magic numbered but before votes
spies6Ariel (11:52:28 PM): Well, Georgia, there's not a lot we can do about that.
sPIEs6Jason (11:53:07 PM): I seriously need to go to bed soon
spies6rey (11:53:07 PM) has left the room.
spies6Tiberius (11:53:14 PM): yikes
spies6Georgia (11:53:29 PM): magic numbered?
spies6Tiberius (11:53:35 PM): i mean to say
spies6Tiberius (11:53:36 PM): seconded
spies6Tiberius (11:53:39 PM): i'll reword
spies6Ariel (11:53:40 PM): I think we should Exile-vote before we lose any more people.
spies6Kirsten (11:53:44 PM): he means the 2 votes needed to move a proposal to the voting stage
spies6Tiberius (11:53:52 PM): Proposal: The DA must make a counterargument after a case is proposed and seconded but before votes
spies6pete (11:53:52 PM): georgia, can you please explain what questions you have, even if they are to people that are not here
spies6Ariel (11:53:55 PM): I don't think that Exile should be decided among half of the remaining players.
spies6Kirsten (11:54:07 PM): At this point, 7 players are deciding the exile
spies6pete (11:54:16 PM): no people can be added, only people taken away
spies6Georgia (11:54:18 PM): Well. Like I asked Jason. His theory about Rey's dramatics.
spies6Kirsten (11:54:19 PM): yes
spies6Georgia (11:54:28 PM): I heard it from another person, saying almost the exact same thing.
spies6Georgia (11:54:34 PM): Seems to much of a coincidence for me.
sPIEs6Jason (11:54:42 PM): Ok, you mean with the Spies imprisoning quiet people?
spies6Tiberius (11:54:43 PM): i'm not asking you to do it now georgia XD
spies6Georgia (11:54:55 PM): And Rey being dramatic, distracting.
spies6Tiberius (11:54:56 PM): not taht you can't, go right ahead
spies6pete (11:54:59 PM): your saying its too much of a coincidence to think that rey is causing unnecessary commotion?
spies6Georgia (11:55:05 PM): No, that was my question from before.
spies6pete (11:55:11 PM): or, for two people to think that at the same time
sPIEs6Jason (11:55:12 PM): I think EVERYONE would agree that Rey has caused drama
spies6Georgia (11:55:18 PM): Rey has been a "douchebag" since day one.
spies6Georgia (11:55:32 PM): Yet people are only making a big issue out of it, now.
spies6Georgia (11:55:34 PM): Why?
spies6pete (11:55:45 PM): I dont think its the major point of their arguments though georgia
spies6Georgia (11:55:50 PM): I've gotten into "dramatics" with other people.
spies6Kirsten (11:55:52 PM): what Pete said
spies6jenya (11:55:53 PM): My vote has nothing to do with douchebaggery.
spies6pete (11:55:53 PM): its just tapped on to the end
spies6Georgia (11:56:01 PM): So why aren't I a serious lynch candidate?
spies6Kirsten (11:56:02 PM): my vote has to do with him directly lying to my face
spies6Kirsten (11:56:05 PM): among other things
sPIEs6Jason (11:56:12 PM): I've always commented on Rey's name calling and drama
spies6jenya (11:56:16 PM): My biggest piece of evidence is Rey voting William.
spies6jenya (11:56:21 PM): And then the next day saying:
spies6pete (11:56:21 PM): because, you dont also go and do things that he has gone and done
spies6jenya (11:56:23 PM): spies6jenya (7:41:10 PM): Not much.. why do you suspect William still?
spies6rey (7:41:58 PM): haha weeeeell, i'm not sure really. i basically just voted with my gut yesterday. i should have stuck with iris.
spies6rey (7:42:52 PM): he still gives me citizen-vibes, but his super lurking keeps bugging me, but i'm glad he's trying to change.
spies6rey (7:46:10 PM): anyways, i have more proof of why i think william is a citizen but i can't open up my AIM logs for fear that AIM will restart on me again.
sPIEs6Jason (11:56:24 PM): I've said from day one we shouldn't be distracting with fights
spies6Georgia (11:56:29 PM): But there isn't proof that Rey actually knew about William's role.
spies6Georgia (11:56:33 PM): Just implication.
spies6jenya (11:56:40 PM): Look, he says he has evidence that William is a citizen.
spies6Kirsten (11:56:41 PM): He said it himself in this chat
spies6jenya (11:56:43 PM): Right there.
spies6jenya (11:56:49 PM): This is the day after exile.
spies6Kirsten (11:56:49 PM): that Khaled hinted at it strongly
spies6Ariel (11:56:50 PM): Kirsten called him on it.
sPIEs6Jason (11:56:53 PM): Also I don't think we should keep ignoring Tibby's proposal
spies6Kirsten (11:57:14 PM): I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure exactly what Tiberius wants accomplished
spies6Georgia (11:57:17 PM): Did he say what proof there was?
spies6Kirsten (11:57:17 PM):
spies6jenya (11:57:23 PM): That's what I want to ask him
spies6jenya (11:57:26 PM): When he gets back
spies6Tiberius (11:57:33 PM): I'm trying to make sure that
spies6Georgia (11:57:35 PM): Neither am I.
spies6jenya (11:57:39 PM): "spies6jenya (7:47:04 PM): What do you think of William's claim?
spies6jenya (7:47:08 PM): I don't like Iris's at all.
spies6rey (7:48:16 PM): i don't know about william's claim because i haven't heard it, but i have heard khaled and ariel referencing some ulterior reason they don't think william is a spy, but iris' sounds pretty far-fetched the more i think about it."
spies6Tiberius (11:57:44 PM): the DA has a chance to do her job at the 11th hour one more time
spies6pete (11:57:47 PM): the thing is, though, I think most of the case has been presented
spies6pete (11:57:56 PM): we all know everything we need to know
spies6Tiberius (11:57:57 PM): so we have ONE more chance to reconsider
spies6Ariel (11:58:10 PM): I would be comfortable with Tiberius's proposal, with an amendment
spies6jenya (11:58:11 PM): Also, Pete and Tibby
spies6Kirsten (11:58:11 PM): Georgia, Rey tells me he thinks William is a citizen the day of exile, then he changes his mind to thinking he's a spy. During that period is when Khaled "strongly hints" at a role. Then after the exile he's right back to thinking William is a citizen.
spies6Georgia (11:58:16 PM): What are you saying Jenya?
spies6Ariel (11:58:23 PM): That the DA be able to waive their right to post a case if they choose.
spies6jenya (11:58:27 PM): Rey thought William was a cit.
spies6Tiberius (11:58:35 PM): i'll ammend it thusly
spies6jenya (11:58:35 PM): Then he found out he had a role
spies6jenya (11:58:43 PM): Then he suddenly wanted to exile William
spies6Georgia (11:58:50 PM): Where is the proof that Rey knew William had a role?
spies6jenya (11:58:53 PM): Then he thought William was a 100% spy.
spies6Ariel (11:58:56 PM): Propose again, then, Tiberius.
spies6Tiberius (11:58:57 PM): Proposal: The DA can make a counterargument after a case is proposed and seconded but before votes. She may waive her right.
spies6Kirsten (11:58:58 PM): Scroll up, Georgia
spies6Ariel (11:59:04 PM): Seconded.
sPIEs6Jason (11:59:07 PM): thirded
spies6Kirsten (11:59:12 PM): Voting on Tiberius' proposal commences
spies6Georgia (11:59:14 PM): just chill for a second.
spies6Tiberius (11:59:16 PM): Vote: Yes
spies6jenya (11:59:22 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (11:59:25 PM): Yes
spies6Ariel (11:59:30 PM): Vote; Yes
spies6pete (11:59:33 PM): ok, fine, whatever...vote yes
spies6jenya (11:59:42 PM): Georgia, let me give you this timeline of Rey's opinion of William.
spies6jenya (11:59:44 PM): If I may.
spies6Kirsten (11:59:45 PM): 1 more minute then it passes
spies6Georgia (11:59:48 PM): one second
spies6jenya (11:59:50 PM): ok
spies6Georgia (11:59:51 PM): Jenya
spies6Georgia (12:00:10 AM): Waive my right for what?
spies6Ariel (12:00:16 AM): To make a countercase.
spies6Ariel (12:00:25 AM): i.e. you're not forced to do it by this proposal.
spies6Kirsten (12:00:25 AM): You can waive your right to being the devil's advocate to a suggestion if you so desire
spies6Georgia (12:00:44 AM): Are we talking a full case into why Rey would be a citizen?
spies6Ariel (12:00:50 AM): Any case.
spies6Georgia (12:00:51 AM): Or.. whomever is on the chopping block?
spies6Kirsten (12:00:57 AM): whatever is being proposed
spies6Ariel (12:00:57 AM): Any proposal.
spies6Kirsten (12:01:00 AM): any proposal
spies6Kirsten (12:01:14 AM): This is just giving you more power. YOu don't have to play DA if you don't want to
spies6Kirsten (12:01:20 AM): you still can if you so desire
sPIEs6Jason (12:01:41 AM): Guys if we're not done in 30 minutes I'm going to bail
sPIEs6Jason (12:01:54 AM): This might go on all night and I have a really important day tomorrow
spies6Tiberius (12:01:54 AM): actually
spies6pete (12:01:57 AM): georgia, what other questions do you have for people?
spies6Tiberius (12:01:59 AM): my proposal says 'case"
spies6Ariel (12:02:06 AM): It's been a minute.
spies6Ariel (12:02:09 AM): Motion passed.
spies6Kirsten (12:02:23 AM): I'm going to say right now, I will block any attempt to exile someone who is not either Rey, Khaled, or Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (12:02:30 AM): Tiberius' proposal passes
spies6Georgia (12:02:52 AM): Okay Jenya.
sPIEs6Jason (12:02:55 AM): I'll block any attempt to exile someone other tthan Rey or Amelia... One of them is a Spy
spies6Tiberius (12:03:12 AM): *repeats what Jason said, in a sheeplike way*
spies6Kirsten (12:03:19 AM): Tibby-sheep
spies6Kirsten (12:03:21 AM):
spies6Ariel (12:03:21 AM): Well, since Jason would block a Khaled or Gretchen exile, and Kirsten would block an Amelia exile...
spies6Tiberius (12:03:26 AM): baa
spies6Kirsten (12:03:29 AM): how about Rey?
spies6Kirsten (12:03:32 AM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (12:03:40 AM): Georgia, here is the timeline:
spies6pete (12:03:43 AM): georgia, you havent answered my question
spies6Kirsten (12:03:50 AM): Rey tells me he thinks William is a citizen due to reactions
spies6pete (12:03:51 AM): what other questions do you have for people
spies6Ariel (12:03:54 AM): And Georgia would block a Rey exile, so...
spies6Georgia (12:03:55 AM): What other questions do I have?
spies6Kirsten (12:03:58 AM): Khaled strongly hints at William having a role
spies6Georgia (12:04:06 AM): One second. Let Jenya go. It might eliminate some questions.
spies6Tiberius (12:04:10 AM): we're sorta deadlocked, because ONE person can stop an exile at this point, and all the exile possibilities have one person
spies6Kirsten (12:04:14 AM): Rey now wants to exile William, saying he changed his mind on the reactions being citizen
sPIEs6Jason (12:04:39 AM): So basically we can't Exile anyone
spies6Kirsten (12:04:55 AM): we can exile rey, but it will take the convincing of miss Georgia
spies6pete (12:05:02 AM): well, if georgias questions are answered or put to rest, rey can get exiled
spies6pete (12:05:05 AM): but he is the only one
sPIEs6Jason (12:05:21 AM): But Rey isn't here to answer questions
spies6Kirsten (12:05:44 AM): Georgia, I have a question. You may not think Rey is the best exile candidate, but do you think he is a citizen and should be saved from exile?
spies6jenya (12:06:06 AM): Did Rey leave on purpose?
spies6Kirsten (12:06:19 AM): I don't know. He just left
spies6Tiberius (12:06:20 AM): or we could all agree that the simple logic that a citizen would not confirm a spy role, and that a frame becomes nigh impossible with the "NO ROLE ACTIONS ON DAY ONE" clause is enough <_<
sPIEs6Jason (12:06:24 AM): Possibly so
spies6Kirsten (12:06:33 AM): I think Amelia is a citizen if Rey is a spy
spies6Kirsten (12:06:35 AM): and I think Rey is a spy
sPIEs6Jason (12:06:39 AM): He left after a vote tyhat showeed he's likely to go
spies6jenya (12:07:02 AM): Tiberius, last season a spy won imprisonment immunity to give, and gave it to a Citizen.
spies6Tiberius (12:07:03 AM): Kirsten, random question, do you believe the opposite is true as well?
spies6Kirsten (12:07:17 AM): If amelia is a spy then Rey is a citizen?
spies6jenya (12:07:26 AM): They gave it to the citizen to a) make themselves look more cit and b) make that person trust them more
spies6Ariel (12:07:41 AM): Knowing full well that they wouldn't target the person with the immunity anyway.
spies6Tiberius (12:07:44 AM): yes kirsten
spies6Georgia (12:07:53 AM): How are Rey's changing of opinion on William, connected to possibile knowledge of William's role? Is there any proof that shows Rey actually knew William had a role, and what it was. Or is it all, kind of implications and hearsay?
spies6Ariel (12:07:54 AM): Prod Pete?
spies6pete (12:07:57 AM): here
spies6pete (12:08:01 AM): and actually
spies6Ariel (12:08:01 AM): Okay
spies6Kirsten (12:08:03 AM): If Amelia is a spy, then Rey would look more citizen-like
spies6pete (12:08:07 AM): I just spoke like two minutes ago
spies6jenya (12:08:11 AM): Rey was willfully ignorant about William's role.
spies6Georgia (12:08:23 AM): Whups sorry. Had scrolled back up for a question.
spies6Kirsten (12:08:38 AM): Georgia, you have to draw conclusions and make implications in ths game. Rey drastically changed his mind on William based on the same chats he used earlier to tell me he thought William was a citizen
spies6Tiberius (12:08:44 AM): Jenya I agree that it's possible that twist is reused, the pssibility is not strong enough to confront what i still see as simple logic
spies6Tiberius (12:08:53 AM): i'm still not blocking a rey exile if it happens, i'm just sayin
spies6pete (12:08:59 AM): rey has elapsed 15 minutes
spies6Kirsten (12:09:06 AM): Tiberius, Rey and iris both tried to get Callahan to claim
spies6pete (12:09:08 AM): we are down to seven
spies6jenya (12:09:10 AM): spies6Jenya (1:09:12 PM): Sounds like he has a role or knows someone who does.
spies6jenya (12:09:16 AM): spies6Jenya (1:10:11 PM): Rey.. this is huge. I think he has a role.. or some info about one.
spies6jenya (12:09:23 AM): spies6jenya (2:16:23 PM): Get anything good from William? A few other people think he might have a role too.
spies6jenya (12:09:31 AM): spies6jenya (2:22:07 PM): Did he admit to having a role?
spies6rey (2:22:19 PM): i didn't ask him.
spies6jenya (12:09:47 AM): He knew the rumors and refused to ask William.
spies6Kirsten (12:10:04 AM): Why would two spies try to get a citizen to role claim, unless they gave him a gift? Later on Rey notes that it's possible Iris really had the role
spies6Kirsten (12:10:05 AM): I have a mixed read on her right now.
She claims to have got the immunity, which was apparently given to her with her alignment.
There is a chance that Iris actually had a spy role that could give out gifts,
and that her three gifts were roleblock, imprisonment immunity, and a one-time jail.
The roleblock may have actually went to Callahan, then imprisonment immunity may have actually went to Amelia,
and the one-time jail might have actually went to Donald.
spies6Tiberius (12:10:06 AM): huh...
spies6jenya (12:10:11 AM): Mind you, this is the William Rey listed on that Tuesday as:
spies6jenya (12:10:13 AM): William: Probable citizen
spies6jenya (12:10:33 AM): Faith: Suspect
spies6Tiberius (12:10:51 AM): has anyone looked at the pure possibility that rey is just telling the godamn truth when he says "that's just the way I am, just the way I play"
spies6Tiberius (12:11:05 AM): in regards to
spies6Tiberius (12:11:09 AM): his switching suspects
spies6Tiberius (12:11:13 AM): and questioning himself
spies6jenya (12:11:29 AM): Tibby
spies6Ariel (12:11:31 AM): "That's just Rey."
spies6jenya (12:11:36 AM): One moment
spies6jenya (12:11:41 AM): The day after exile
spies6jenya (12:11:46 AM): Rey posted a new suspicions list
spies6jenya (12:11:50 AM): Here's William:
spies6jenya (12:11:55 AM): William: Spy
spies6jenya (12:11:59 AM): That same day
spies6jenya (12:12:05 AM): He types this to me in chat:
spies6jenya (12:12:12 AM): spies6jenya (7:41:10 PM): Not much.. why do you suspect William still?
spies6rey (7:41:58 PM): haha weeeeell, i'm not sure really. i basically just voted with my gut yesterday. i should have stuck with iris.
spies6rey (7:42:52 PM): he still gives me citizen-vibes, but his super lurking keeps bugging me, but i'm glad he's trying to change.
spies6rey (7:46:10 PM): anyways, i have more proof of why i think william is a citizen but i can't open up my AIM logs for fear that AIM will restart on me again.
Sorin the Seeker (12:12:19 AM): With Rey gone for 15 minutes we now have 7 players remaining, it takes 2 to block. When 6 players remain, it takes 2 to block, and the auto-vote of someone not here against their own exile no longer applies.
spies6Georgia (12:12:20 AM): I honestly don't know if he should be saved. I don't have any proof as to why he is a definite citizen. Nor do I have any proof as to why he is a definite spy. Yes, lately his behavior has gone up on the wacky scale. But, I've not judged him - well tried not to judge him on his bahvior. Because he has been pretty upfront about it since day one. Yes he does seem to be caught in a web of lies. But it seems to me that there isn't really proof to the lies. Just implications and differings of how people took things.
spies6jenya (12:12:22 AM): i have more proof of why i think william is a citizen but i can't open up my AIM logs for fear that AIM will restart on me again.
spies6Georgia (12:12:28 AM): To your question Kirsten.
spies6Kirsten (12:12:50 AM): Georgia, he lied to my face
spies6Kirsten (12:13:00 AM): I can't "prove" it, but I can get some damn good evidence to support it
spies6Kirsten (12:13:08 AM): you can't prove anything in mafia
ktbakerJ (12:13:09 AM) has entered the room.
spies6Tiberius (12:13:17 AM): let's look at another example of someone in this game doing something that seems strange in mafia games
spies6Tiberius (12:13:19 AM): yes, it's me
spies6Tiberius (12:13:27 AM): i trust people yes? silly no?
spies6Tiberius (12:13:32 AM): but it's just the way i am, just the way i play
spies6Tiberius (12:13:37 AM): because it's part of my personality
spies6Tiberius (12:13:39 AM): i can't help it
spies6Tiberius (12:13:47 AM): you see where i'm going here?
spies6Kirsten (12:13:50 AM): I trust people too
sPIEs6Jason (12:13:53 AM): It's p[ossible
spies6Kirsten (12:13:54 AM): Ellis trusted his role to Jenya
spies6Ariel (12:14:01 AM): I trusted Yvette.
sPIEs6Jason (12:14:08 AM): But it's p[ossibler its a cover... we have to look at the overall facts
spies6jenya (12:14:29 AM): Rey's opinions on Exiled people: Alma is a spy, jaya is a spy but ellis told me not to vote her, yvette is a spy, donald is a spy, faith is a cit, Iris is a spy, Thor is a Cit. He claims to have been right 6 out of 7 times.
spies6Georgia (12:14:34 AM): Rey has been a bigtime and known waffler for awhile.
spies6Kirsten (12:14:35 AM): I don't think Rey would lie about using an alias in a chat room to cover up the fact that he is catching Iris on inconsistencies in her role if he was actually a citizen
spies6Georgia (12:14:40 AM): It isn't anything new.
spies6jenya (12:14:45 AM): Do we believe a cit could be right on 6 out of 7 exiles?
spies6pete (12:15:01 AM): if what sam says is true when one more of us goes, then we need 5 out of the 6 to agree on an exile? rey wouldnt be able to autoblock?
sPIEs6Jason (12:15:07 AM): But I'm going to leave in 16 minutes and at that point one block here won't be enough to stop an exile -_-
spies6Kirsten (12:15:16 AM): Pete is correct
spies6Georgia (12:15:23 AM): Jenya. Did he ever tell you what the proof on William the Cit was?
spies6Kirsten (12:15:28 AM): if we lose one person, then Georgia's vote alone would not be enough to stop the Reyxile
spies6jenya (12:15:44 AM): No, georgia, after I posted my case, Sam shut the Burg down.
spies6gretchen2 (12:15:44 AM) has entered the room.
spies6Ariel (12:15:52 AM): Welcome back, Gretchen.
spies6Kirsten (12:15:52 AM): Welcome back
spies6pete (12:15:57 AM): welcome back gretchen
sPIEs6Jason (12:15:58 AM): wb Gretchen
spies6gretchen2 (12:16:07 AM): thanks lol no surprises it's still going!
spies6Kirsten (12:16:13 AM): We're close
spies6gretchen2 (12:16:14 AM): where we at?
sPIEs6Jason (12:16:21 AM): meh
spies6gretchen2 (12:16:27 AM): hah
spies6pete (12:16:29 AM): well if one of us leaves the chat, it seems rey will get exiled
spies6Tiberius (12:16:39 AM): well actually i've been thinking about this whole "just the way he is thing" and i'm 50/50 now on whether it's the truth or an act
spies6gretchen2 (12:16:40 AM): so it's still rey vs. amelia?
spies6Tiberius (12:16:43 AM): because i can identify it
spies6Ariel (12:16:45 AM): Or, if Georgia has her questions answered satisfactorily.
spies6Tiberius (12:16:48 AM): *identify with ti
sPIEs6Jason (12:16:49 AM): No its Rey vs. Stubbornness
TheRockbiter (12:16:51 AM) has entered the room.
spies6Kirsten (12:16:53 AM): It's basically Rey vs. nobody
spies6pete (12:16:56 AM): its rey vs not rey at the moment
spies6gretchen2 (12:17:02 AM): lol so no one has any other votes?
spies6Kirsten (12:17:13 AM): Everyone is willing to exile Rey, except Georgia at this point
spies6Tiberius (12:17:13 AM): To be fair Jason it's Georgia's job to do this, even if it's annoying
spies6pete (12:17:15 AM): theres seven people left eligable
sPIEs6Jason (12:17:23 AM): I know I'm just sleepy
spies6pete (12:17:25 AM): its not her job to stop an exile
spies6pete (12:17:31 AM): its her job to counter points
spies6gretchen2 (12:17:34 AM): and every one has to agree? or can there just be one person not agreeing and he still goes?
spies6jenya (12:17:40 AM): Tibby, what kind of evidence would allow you to vote Rey?
spies6Georgia (12:17:43 AM): One more viewer and we are tied.
spies6jenya (12:17:49 AM): Bloody knife found in his bedroom?
sPIEs6Jason (12:17:52 AM): If one of us leaves then ne person won't be enough to stop it anymore
spies6Tiberius (12:17:57 AM): I'm still not blocking Jenya, i've said that
spies6Kirsten (12:18:00 AM): Gretchen, at this point with 7, you need 2 to block
spies6Kirsten (12:18:06 AM): one is Rey
spies6gretchen2 (12:18:13 AM): and georgia hasn;t decided
spies6Kirsten (12:18:16 AM): but with 6, Rey no longer can block his own exile
spies6jenya (12:18:20 AM): I'm just asking, what kind of evidence works if "spyish behavior is just how Rey is" is not good enough
spies6gretchen2 (12:18:29 AM): 5 and a half hours
spies6Tiberius (12:18:31 AM): no
spies6gretchen2 (12:18:33 AM): nice work people
spies6Tiberius (12:18:40 AM): i'm not talking about ALL his behaviou
spies6Tiberius (12:18:46 AM): i'm saying SPECIFICALLY
spies6Tiberius (12:18:53 AM): the suspicion waffling
spies6Georgia (12:18:59 AM): Tiberius jumping on the Rey wagon, after having a talk with Levi - is one of the reasons why I question Rey's exile.
spies6gretchen2 (12:19:07 AM): no surprises there
spies6jenya (12:19:11 AM): So saying William is a definite spy and a cit on the same day is normal?
spies6Tiberius (12:19:14 AM): Georgia before that I still didn't know anything ABOUT it
spies6gretchen2 (12:19:17 AM): i agree with georgia
sPIEs6Jason (12:19:18 AM): That's nothing new -_- no offense Tibby lol
spies6Tiberius (12:19:19 AM): i thought that had been clarified
spies6Tiberius (12:19:27 AM): also, am i not still trying to make points against it too?
spies6Georgia (12:19:29 AM): Tiberius. Rey has been a Waffler for awhile.
spies6gretchen2 (12:19:29 AM): but i will shut up cause my vote doesn't count
spies6Kirsten (12:19:33 AM): meh, give Tiberius a break.
spies6Georgia (12:19:35 AM): It isn't anything new.
spies6pete (12:19:37 AM): how does tib thinking that rey is no longer a cit have any bearing on reys allignment?
spies6Kirsten (12:19:48 AM): Georgia thinks Tiberius is a spy
spies6pete (12:19:55 AM): oh, right, ok...
spies6gretchen2 (12:19:56 AM): so do i
spies6jenya (12:20:16 AM): Tibby, do you have a problem with Rey trying to take credit for Iris's exile?
spies6Georgia (12:20:17 AM): This is one point I agree with.
spies6Tiberius (12:20:21 AM): Yes
spies6Tiberius (12:20:24 AM): well
spies6Tiberius (12:20:24 AM): ok
spies6jenya (12:20:27 AM): Considering that all day he defended Iris?
spies6Tiberius (12:20:35 AM): He's an attention whore player
spies6Georgia (12:20:36 AM): Tiberius had ample time to read up on the accusations against Rey. Yet waited for someone to break it down for him?
spies6jenya (12:20:37 AM): Iris: Citizen
Amelia: Spy
Levi: Suspect
Mirela: Suspect
Oswald: Suspect
Boris: Probable Citizen
William: Spy
Khaled: Suspect
spies6Tiberius (12:20:43 AM): which
spies6Tiberius (12:20:44 AM): he
spies6Tiberius (12:20:48 AM): from the start of the game
spies6Tiberius (12:20:51 AM): has admiited
spies6Tiberius (12:21:02 AM): pregame even
spies6Kirsten (12:21:05 AM): Tiberius, he told me he could Accuse Thor
spies6Ariel (12:21:18 AM) has left the room.
spies6Tiberius (12:21:24 AM): Georgia
spies6Tiberius (12:21:29 AM): in your world I had ample time
spies6Kirsten (12:21:31 AM): spies6Kirsten (9:53:59 PM):well, I think Thor is getting exiled spies6rey (9:54:04 PM):is he? spies6Kirsten (9:54:05 PM):not Amelia spies6Kirsten (9:54:07 PM):yeah spies6rey (9:54:12 PM):well i can accuse him to help spies6Kirsten (9:54:16 PM):hahaha spies6rey (9:54:17 PM):but i need proof
spies6Tiberius (12:21:36 AM): you ahve no idea what's going on for me though do you?
spies6Tiberius (12:21:46 AM): I did not have ample time nor energy to read that
spies6Tiberius (12:21:54 AM): once Levi boild it down
spies6Tiberius (12:21:56 AM): to simple
spies6Tiberius (12:21:59 AM): bite sized peices
spies6Tiberius (12:22:01 AM): i understood
spies6Georgia (12:22:07 AM): I could counter your agurment about not having ample time. But I can't because of real identity issues.
spies6Tiberius (12:22:08 AM): before then i would have blocked a rey exile
spies6Georgia (12:22:28 AM): No, I don't have any idea about your real life - nor do I want to.
spies6jenya (12:22:30 AM): Tiberius, what's your take on this chat:
spies6jenya (12:22:37 AM): spies6jenya (8:44:05 PM): Why aren't you in S6 chat?
spies6rey (8:44:14 PM): because i don't want to talk to you guys, duh?
spies6jenya (8:44:15 PM): And who are you chatting with?
spies6rey (8:44:25 PM): who cares who i am chatting with.
spies6rey (8:44:30 PM): why do you need to know?
spies6Georgia (12:22:39 AM): But it is a constant thing with you. About never having enough time.
sPIEs6Jason (12:22:42 AM): Did Ariel leave for the night?
spies6gretchen2 (12:22:44 AM): ariel is out
spies6gretchen2 (12:22:46 AM): yes
spies6pete (12:22:47 AM): oh.....and ariel is gone?
spies6gretchen2 (12:22:49 AM): i think so
spies6pete (12:22:53 AM): you know what that means right?
spies6gretchen2 (12:22:53 AM): interesting
spies6Tiberius (12:22:54 AM): that's suspicious jenya
spies6Georgia (12:22:57 AM): Have to give her time to come back.
spies6Tiberius (12:23:01 AM): and one of the many reasons i wont block anymord
spies6gretchen2 (12:23:01 AM): this is bs
spies6pete (12:23:01 AM): oh yeah
spies6pete (12:23:05 AM): 15 minutes
spies6jenya (12:23:09 AM): Right at that moment, he was talking with Iris, and my hypothesis is they were fabricating that chat
spies6gretchen2 (12:23:11 AM): rey is not a spy.
spies6Tiberius (12:23:29 AM): I believe waiting for one person to leave was rule lawyering
spies6Kirsten (12:23:32 AM): Why not?
spies6jenya (12:23:34 AM): Gretchen, you sound a lot like Rey tonight.
spies6jenya (12:23:45 AM): Are you sure he's not controlling your login?
spies6Georgia (12:23:46 AM): Didn't that happen with Mirela as well Jenya. On your urging?
spies6gretchen2 (12:23:51 AM): let's see. ariel's out. if she's not back, rey is exiled right?
spies6Tiberius (12:23:57 AM): And what the hell does Georgia mean by real idenity issues? ugh
spies6pete (12:23:59 AM): pretty much
spies6gretchen2 (12:24:03 AM): jenya you have no idea what you're talking about.
spies6Kirsten (12:24:05 AM): Gretchen, why are you no longer Jolly and Fat?
sPIEs6Jason (12:24:13 AM): She added a 2 to her name
spies6Tiberius (12:24:14 AM): my life is complicated Georgia right now, my energy is low
spies6gretchen2 (12:24:16 AM): why do you think Kirsten?
spies6jenya (12:24:20 AM): Gretchen, why did you forget what group you were in tonight?
spies6Tiberius (12:24:20 AM): that's the truth
spies6Georgia (12:24:21 AM): Tiberius. I was going to argue about time constraints. But I can't, because of real identity issues.
spies6gretchen2 (12:24:30 AM): exactly jason. it's the second coming.
spies6jenya (12:24:38 AM): You really thought you were in Mirela and Ariel's original group?
spies6Kirsten (12:24:41 AM): Why?
spies6gretchen2 (12:24:47 AM): mirela / amelia
spies6Kirsten (12:24:50 AM): What prompted your behavior change
spies6gretchen2 (12:24:52 AM): they are like the same people to me
sPIEs6Jason (12:24:57 AM): The first coming is usually painful for girls
spies6Kirsten (12:25:02 AM): hahaha
spies6pete (12:25:03 AM): gretchen, i used to get those two mixed up as well
spies6gretchen2 (12:25:05 AM): lol jason!
spies6gretchen2 (12:25:17 AM): thanks pete
spies6Tiberius (12:25:37 AM): i would block a rey exile at this point on principal because i dont like that we waited for one person to leave, it feels wrong to me
spies6Georgia (12:25:39 AM): Civility.
spies6gretchen2 (12:25:49 AM): spies6Tiberius (3:27:31 PM): i would block a rey exile at this point on principal because i dont like that we waited for one person to leave, it feels wrong to me
sPIEs6Jason (12:25:49 AM): -_____-
spies6Tiberius (12:25:49 AM): /pisses off everyone
spies6Georgia (12:25:51 AM): Focus.
spies6gretchen2 (12:25:52 AM): you do that a lot
spies6Tiberius (12:26:11 AM): i do what alot?
spies6gretchen2 (12:26:12 AM): weren't you just pushing for him to be exiled?
spies6gretchen2 (12:26:15 AM): i am confused.
spies6Tiberius (12:26:16 AM): no
spies6Tiberius (12:26:20 AM): i wasnt gretch
spies6pete (12:26:27 AM): um tib....how does that help though, why does that change your fellings on reys allignment?
spies6Kirsten (12:26:31 AM): Do you think he's a citizen, Tib?
spies6gretchen2 (12:26:36 AM): my mistake. i thought you were.
spies6Tiberius (12:26:36 AM): i've been defending him but saying that i'm willing to not block because i do think his behaviour is JUST supsicous enough
spies6Tiberius (12:26:40 AM): but i think amelia is a better choice
spies6Tiberius (12:26:42 AM): overall
spies6Georgia (12:26:46 AM): Pete. Can you ask Sam a question?
spies6pete (12:26:50 AM): i can
sPIEs6Jason (12:26:55 AM): Well then lets exile Amelia
spies6jenya (12:27:05 AM): Good luck with that.
spies6Kirsten (12:27:12 AM): I'll move to block it.
spies6Georgia (12:27:13 AM): Forfeiting vote. After prod, and after fifteen minutes. If no response, then they lose their vote?
sPIEs6Jason (12:27:15 AM): Exile me -_-
sPIEs6Jason (12:27:21 AM): Just exile someone lol I'm sl;eepy
spies6gretchen2 (12:27:25 AM): i would if i could jason
spies6Georgia (12:27:29 AM): Is their a time limit before a prod is issued?
spies6Tiberius (12:27:33 AM): I would block a Jason Exile XD
spies6jenya (12:27:37 AM): Gretchen, any cit will do?
spies6gretchen2 (12:27:39 AM): of course you would
spies6pete (12:27:43 AM): id block a jason exile too
sPIEs6Jason (12:27:44 AM): Thanks for supporting my quest for sleep Gretchen
spies6gretchen2 (12:27:53 AM): no problem Jason. anytime hun
spies6Kirsten (12:28:00 AM): I propose we move to exile Rey. I will establish a 5 minute timer, and if two votes to Block do not occur in that 5 minute period, he will be exiled.
spies6gretchen2 (12:28:05 AM): how do you jason is a cit Jenya?
spies6pete (12:28:15 AM): you cannot change the format of the exile
spies6gretchen2 (12:28:20 AM): oh that's right because you send him messages which we only find out AFTER you get exiled.
spies6Kirsten (12:28:20 AM): err.. 1 vote to block
spies6Kirsten (12:28:24 AM): until 15 minutes
sPIEs6Jason (12:28:24 AM): I second Kirsten's Proposal
spies6gretchen2 (12:28:26 AM): or not exiled... as it would appear
spies6Kirsten (12:28:26 AM): after Ariel
spies6Tiberius (12:28:27 AM) has left the room.

[Judge Sam]

spies6Georgia (12:28:29 AM): I would like to propose that everyone takes a five minute break to clear their heads of irrelavant emotions and to think.
spies6gretchen2 (12:28:35 AM): agreed
spies6pete (12:28:37 AM): and then....there were five
spies6gretchen2 (12:28:38 AM): seconded
spies6Kirsten (12:28:55 AM): Sam told me that I could establish a time frame on voting, and if votes to block did not occur in a reasonable time, then it would pass
spies6Georgia (12:29:15 AM): We don't know if Ariel is for sure out.
spies6pete (12:29:17 AM): georgia, what the hell, we have all claimed that were getting very tired of this, how will that help?
spies6Kirsten (12:29:20 AM): Let's vote on the proposal to take a 5 minute break
spies6Georgia (12:29:25 AM): We should give Ariel and Tiberius a chance to return within the rules.
spies6jenya (12:29:26 AM): Gretchen, why are you so certain Rey is a Cit?
spies6pete (12:29:27 AM): block
sPIEs6Jason (12:29:28 AM): Vote: No
spies6tiberius (12:29:29 AM) has been invited.
Invitation result for buddy spies6Tiberius : spies6Tiberius is busy.
spies6Kirsten (12:29:29 AM): block
sPIEs6Jason (12:29:31 AM): Block whatever
spies6Kirsten (12:30:01 AM): it's been 8 minutes since Ariel left
spies6Kirsten (12:30:12 AM): in another 7, I will propose again that we exile Rey.
spies6Georgia (12:30:17 AM): Pete, did you ask Sam my question?
spies6pete (12:30:28 AM): what was the question? sorry I must have missed it
spies6gretchen2 (12:30:40 AM): i just don't think he is a spy... why would you guys still be here in the game if he was? surely he would have tried to get rid of one of you. unless there's another "role" i am unaware of. but he's not stupid. gut feeling.
spies6Georgia (12:30:53 AM): Forfeiting vote. After prod, and after fifteen minutes. If no response, then they lose their vote? Is their a time limit before a prod is issued?
spies6pete (12:31:08 AM): ok, sent
spies6Georgia (12:31:26 AM): -be right back, restroom-
spies6jenya (12:31:26 AM): So Gretchen, who's your vote for right now?
spies6Kirsten (12:31:27 AM): I believe he also said after 15 minutes of leaving the chat
sPIEs6Jason (12:31:30 AM): If someone's offline 15 minutes they're out, prod or not
spies6gretchen2 (12:31:32 AM): mirela
spies6Kirsten (12:31:36 AM): What jason said
spies6gretchen2 (12:31:39 AM): closely followed by tibby
spies6jenya (12:31:41 AM): And the evidence for mirela being a spy was, again?
spies6jenya (12:31:46 AM): Bad voting record
spies6pete (12:32:17 AM): answer
spies6gretchen2 (12:32:18 AM): nothing too concrete as yet. yeah that, lack of opinions. lack of contribution to the burg. basically the same thing the other spies who have been caught showed.
spies6pete (12:32:24 AM): we do NOT need to wait for ariel to come back to vote
spies6pete (12:32:27 AM): we can vote now
spies6jenya (12:32:33 AM): Did you vote for Faith, Gretchen?
spies6pete (12:32:33 AM): and it will count as if six people are voting
spies6Kirsten (12:32:39 AM): Proposal to vote for Exiling Rey
spies6gretchen2 (12:32:44 AM): no i wasn't here. but i wouldn't have. no way.
spies6pete (12:32:45 AM): tib is unable to get into the chat
spies6pete (12:32:48 AM): BUT he does have a vote
spies6gretchen2 (12:32:49 AM): she was like callahan for me.
sPIEs6Jason (12:32:53 AM): Seconded
spies6Georgia (12:32:57 AM): That wasn't my question Pete. I wasn't asking whether or not we needed to wait for Ariel.
spies6jenya (12:33:01 AM): Gretchen, you thought Callahan was a Cit?
spies6pete (12:33:08 AM): well that was the response he gave georgia
spies6Georgia (12:33:10 AM): If he isn't in the chat, then how can he vote?
spies6gretchen2 (12:33:20 AM): hell yes. not that i knew much about him. but it seemed kinda obvious.
spies6pete (12:33:26 AM):
Sorin the Seeker (06:31:14): the # of total votes is the # of people currently in the chat room or available

Sorin the Seeker (06:31:40): you dont need to wait for ariel to come back to make it be 6 votes (well actually 5 with tiberius but he is trying to get back into the chat but is technically unable)

Sorin the Seeker (06:31:46): so he is free to vote via IM to me
spies6Kirsten (12:33:35 AM): One Sec
spies6gretchen2 (12:33:39 AM): brb
spies6Kirsten (12:33:40 AM): ok, Tiberius can vote via IM
spies6Kirsten (12:33:45 AM): That was my question
spies6Kirsten (12:34:06 AM): We now move forward with the Proposal to Exile Rey
spies6pete (12:34:09 AM): ok, weve had it seconded
spies6pete (12:34:22 AM): vote: yes
spies6Georgia (12:34:29 AM): So how many votes are needed?
sPIEs6Jason (12:34:32 AM): Vote: Yes for sleep
spies6Kirsten (12:34:33 AM): If you are fine with Rey being exiled, vote Yes, otherwise, vote No
spies6pete (12:34:40 AM): two blocks are needed
spies6Kirsten (12:34:41 AM): Yes
spies6Georgia (12:34:43 AM): 5/6?
spies6jenya (12:34:50 AM): Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (12:34:50 AM): two blocks can shut it down
spies6Georgia (12:34:53 AM): Or all 6, since it takes one to block?
spies6jenya (12:34:58 AM): "Ummmm Rey hun you knew both Georgia and I were voting for Thor, 6 hours before the Exile, as discussed in your thread. Now you also knew Kirsten knew Thor was being voted? Yet still did nothing? Hmmmm.... "
spies6Kirsten (12:35:00 AM): need 2 to block, Georgia
spies6pete (12:35:03 AM): no, it takes two to block for this round
spies6Georgia (12:35:07 AM): Oh.
spies6jenya (12:35:32 AM): "Nope I had to choose 2 Ariel. You and Kirsten look more like Citizens than Rey at the moment."
spies6Georgia (12:35:44 AM): Are we on the vote yet?
spies6jenya (12:35:45 AM): Gretchen doesn't seem to have her story straight.
spies6pete (12:35:52 AM): btw seeing as the proposal has gone ahead, people need to vote or their votes will be nulled
spies6Kirsten (12:35:54 AM): yes, Georgia, 3 people ahve voted Yes to exile Rey
spies6Georgia (12:36:04 AM): Nay/ No.
spies6Kirsten (12:36:05 AM): We're waiting on you, Tiberius, and Jenya
spies6pete (12:36:21 AM): spies6Tiberius (12:35:16 AM): wait

spies6Tiberius (12:35:17 AM): tell them

spies6Tiberius (12:35:27 AM): georgia needs to decide whether or not to waive her right

spies6Tiberius (12:35:34 AM): basedo on my proposal
spies6Kirsten (12:36:31 AM): Tiberius is correct
spies6pete (12:36:31 AM): one block by georgia
spies6gretchen2 (12:36:44 AM): back
spies6Kirsten (12:36:45 AM): Do you want to DA this proposal, or waive your right, Georgia?
spies6gretchen2 (12:36:48 AM): and what story jenya?
spies6Georgia (12:36:58 AM): DA the proposal to exile Rey?
spies6tiberius (12:36:58 AM) has been invited.
spies6Georgia (12:37:07 AM): Argue against why Rey shouldn't be exiled?
spies6jenya (12:37:08 AM): Gretchen, didn't you find Rey suspicious for his behavior around the Thor exile?
spies6pete (12:37:12 AM): georgia you have the right to counter the case, and seeing as you are blocking the move, you will have to justify that too
spies6Kirsten (12:37:12 AM): yeah, either you can give a case against it, or we can just carry on with votes
spies6Kirsten (12:37:16 AM): basically, yes, Georgia
spies6Georgia (12:37:25 AM): I already argued some reasons why Rey shouldn't be exiled.
spies6pete (12:37:35 AM): what were they sorry?
spies6gretchen2 (12:37:37 AM): i thought it was a little odd.... the part i mentioned yes. then i also thought about what he said to kirsten.
spies6gretchen2 (12:38:03 AM): and if someone came to me with evidence, i'd change my vote to my friend too, if it was to exile a spy.
spies6tiberius (12:38:11 AM) has been invited.
spies6jenya (12:38:26 AM): Did you see Rey defend Thor?
spies6jenya (12:38:36 AM): Or try to change anyone's opinion?
spies6gretchen2 (12:39:01 AM): yeah he said to me when i was online that he didn't think thor was a spy
spies6jenya (12:39:03 AM): Man, I wish Rey was here.
spies6gretchen2 (12:39:11 AM): which was 6 hours beforehand like i said
sPIEs6Jason (12:39:25 AM): That's probably why Rey left -_-
spies6pete (12:39:26 AM): kirsten you set a five minute timer to this vote didnt you?
spies6gretchen2 (12:39:26 AM): i don't know when kirsten warned him about thor being the exile
spies6Kirsten (12:39:28 AM): Georgia?
spies6Kirsten (12:39:38 AM): Pete, not for this proposal, I didn't, sorry
spies6Georgia (12:39:41 AM): 1. Tiberius jumping on the wagon is suspcious. 2. There are still unresolved issues. Yes people have explained their side, and say why this should be that. And that there is no proof in Mafia. But making assumptions
spies6Georgia (12:39:44 AM): I'm typing
sPIEs6Jason (12:39:49 AM): And in 5 minutes I'm leaving too, I don't care anymre I have to be rested for tomorrow -_-
spies6Georgia (12:40:00 AM): I was in that chat with Gretchen. If it is the same one she is talking about.
spies6pete (12:40:02 AM): 1. not if tib is a citizen 2.
spies6gretchen2 (12:40:10 AM): yeah you were georgia
spies6pete (12:40:14 AM): how else do you plan to resolve this issue
spies6gretchen2 (12:40:23 AM): you guys have the vote
spies6gretchen2 (12:40:25 AM): exile him
spies6gretchen2 (12:40:29 AM): let's see what happens
spies6pete (12:40:34 AM): you say there are unresolved issues
spies6jenya (12:40:41 AM): Gretchen, how sure are you that he's a Cit?
spies6pete (12:40:44 AM): how on earth do you propose we get around them?
spies6Kirsten (12:40:45 AM): you seem smug, Gretchen
spies6jenya (12:40:48 AM): 70%? 95%?
spies6gretchen2 (12:40:52 AM): 75% jenya
sPIEs6Jason (12:41:18 AM): There's no way to resolve issues with people that aren't online and aren't getting back online ugh
spies6gretchen2 (12:41:22 AM): i am not smug Kirsten. not at all. i see the evidence against him but i can't shake the feeling he's a cit. i could be wrong. i was wrong on thor.
spies6Georgia (12:41:43 AM): But making assumptions on things, which there are unresolved questions and issues.. isn't good.
spies6pete (12:41:59 AM): similarily georgia, if tiberius wasnt on the so called wagon then HOW would anyone get exiled? because he would block rey and other would block other people
spies6Kirsten (12:42:01 AM): Georgia, this is the way this exile is going to happen. The longer we wait, the less epople who decide it
spies6gretchen2 (12:42:02 AM): we have no choice. you guys have to choose someone i am assuming.
sPIEs6Jason (12:42:03 AM): And waiting until we have 1 person left in here deciding who goes isn't good either
sPIEs6Jason (12:42:16 AM): I'm leaviung in 3 minutes whether a decision is made or not
spies6gretchen2 (12:42:20 AM): lol that would be funny.
spies6tiberius (12:42:21 AM) has been invited.
spies6Georgia (12:42:23 AM): I'm not voting for Rey.
spies6Kirsten (12:42:29 AM): I will stay in this chat until I die of ass-to-chairera
spies6pete (12:42:38 AM): your reasons are illogical and ill-thought out
sPIEs6Jason (12:42:42 AM): I hear thats a nasty disease this time of year
sPIEs6Jason (12:42:50 AM): Who cares it takes two blocks to stop an exile
spies6gretchen2 (12:42:50 AM): who's reasons pete?
spies6Georgia (12:42:51 AM): Pete, I'm the DA so chill.
spies6pete (12:43:04 AM): no, dont hide behind that da badge
spies6pete (12:43:12 AM): that isnt your job
spies6Kirsten (12:43:13 AM): The da doesn't force you to vote a certain way
spies6Kirsten (12:43:21 AM): you can vote however you want. it says that in the description
spies6Georgia (12:43:27 AM): I can vote however I want Pete.
spies6gretchen2 (12:43:34 AM): even with georgia blocking, don't you have enough anyway?
spies6Georgia (12:43:37 AM): Being the DA has no influence over how I vote.
spies6Kirsten (12:43:43 AM): We have 3 votes yes, 1 vote no
spies6pete (12:43:47 AM): then dont bring the da up then
spies6gretchen2 (12:43:53 AM): which means?
spies6pete (12:43:53 AM): we need to know jenyas and tibs vote
spies6Kirsten (12:43:53 AM): Jenya has not voted
spies6Kirsten (12:43:56 AM): Tiberius has not voted
spies6Georgia (12:43:58 AM): Then don't say things are illogical or ill-thought out
spies6gretchen2 (12:44:00 AM): ok got it.
spies6pete (12:44:17 AM): well, they are unless you can tell me otherwise
sPIEs6Jason (12:44:35 AM): Lets have them vote and see what happens
spies6pete (12:44:36 AM): if tib wasnt on the reymobile....no-one else will get exiled
spies6Georgia (12:44:37 AM): How are they then?
spies6gretchen2 (12:44:45 AM): haha
spies6pete (12:44:48 AM): then again, if he was, he is suspicious
sPIEs6Jason (12:45:04 AM): This is supposed to be about a consensus... whats best for the burg... the consensus is obviously to exile Rey at the moment
spies6pete (12:45:17 AM): similarily, if there are reasons still unresolved
spies6Georgia (12:45:18 AM): Luckily for you Pete, I've been one of the most level-headed this chat.
spies6pete (12:45:29 AM): how on earth can we resolve them?
spies6Georgia (12:45:42 AM): So, I wouldn't push it.
sPIEs6Jason (12:45:46 AM): And you people are keeping me up before an important day for my entire career becuase of unresolvable unanswerable questions
spies6pete (12:45:50 AM): push what sorry?
spies6gretchen2 (12:45:51 AM): how many votes do you need to exile him?
spies6Kirsten (12:45:58 AM): With 6, we need 4
spies6Kirsten (12:46:02 AM): err. 5
spies6Kirsten (12:46:05 AM): sorry
spies6gretchen2 (12:46:17 AM): ok so tib and jenya what are you 2 doing?
spies6Kirsten (12:46:18 AM): We have 3 votes in favor. We would need 2 more (both Jenya and Tiberius)
spies6pete (12:46:23 AM): tib has voted
spies6pete (12:46:31 AM): and he has voted in favour of exiling rey
spies6Kirsten (12:46:34 AM): oh?
spies6pete (12:46:45 AM): jenyas vote decides
sPIEs6Jason (12:46:48 AM): Prod Jenya?
spies6Kirsten (12:46:54 AM): Has been prodded already
spies6Kirsten (12:46:56 AM): she is reading
sPIEs6Jason (12:46:59 AM): -_-
spies6Georgia (12:47:06 AM): Push my level-headedness this group chat Pete. Don't do it.
sPIEs6Jason (12:47:09 AM): well can I go since I voted?
spies6gretchen2 (12:47:18 AM): i don't think you can jason
spies6gretchen2 (12:47:21 AM): get pete to ask sam
spies6gretchen2 (12:47:25 AM): before you go
sPIEs6Jason (12:47:42 AM): Pete can you ask Sam if I can go since I voted and my vote sitll count?
spies6pete (12:47:51 AM): georgia I am simply asking how we can resolve this issue
spies6pete (12:47:55 AM): im not asking for a fight
spies6pete (12:48:05 AM): i have asked that already btw
spies6Georgia (12:48:10 AM): -ignoring-
spies6pete (12:48:10 AM): im waiting for an answer
spies6Kirsten (12:48:28 AM): can we not ignore each other please
spies6gretchen2 (12:48:33 AM): did ariel tell anyone she was leaving?
spies6Kirsten (12:48:36 AM): no
spies6Kirsten (12:48:41 AM): not to my knowledge
sPIEs6Jason (12:48:46 AM): Proposal to Exile anybody that 5 people will vote for so Jason can go to sleep -_-
spies6gretchen2 (12:48:48 AM): ok
spies6pete (12:49:04 AM): we could make a proposal to make jasons vote stand if he leaves?
spies6Georgia (12:49:07 AM): Pete is pushing when I told him not to. If he continues to push. There will be a problem.
sPIEs6Jason (12:49:11 AM): <3 Pete
spies6gretchen2 (12:49:22 AM): lol Georgia. you're doing so well. believe me you are.
sPIEs6Jason (12:49:30 AM): If we dont push we just sit here and do nothing for 5 more hours
spies6Kirsten (12:49:37 AM): second Pete's proposal if it's allowed
spies6gretchen2 (12:49:42 AM): agreed. someone get jenya back.
spies6Georgia (12:49:47 AM): No.
spies6Kirsten (12:49:53 AM): haha
spies6gretchen2 (12:49:56 AM): hehehe
spies6Georgia (12:50:01 AM): That wouldn't be cool. The first votes didn't count.
sPIEs6Jason (12:50:05 AM): I hate you Georgia lol
spies6Georgia (12:50:09 AM): Jenya has been prodded?
spies6gretchen2 (12:50:13 AM): i love georgia.
spies6Georgia (12:50:15 AM): How long has it been since prod?
spies6pete (12:50:19 AM): shes here, just reading
spies6Georgia (12:50:26 AM): Oh.
spies6Kirsten (12:50:31 AM): yes, I prodded her
spies6jenya (12:50:35 AM): I just read Rey's defense completely.
spies6gretchen2 (12:50:42 AM): andddddddd
spies6jenya (12:50:49 AM): I'm not 100% certain on it, but we rarely are in mafia.
spies6jenya (12:50:54 AM): vote Rey: Yes.
spies6Kirsten (12:50:58 AM): And that is a lynch
sPIEs6Jason (12:51:01 AM): Jenya will you amrry me?
spies6gretchen2 (12:51:03 AM): wow
sPIEs6Jason (12:51:04 AM): marry*
spies6Georgia (12:51:17 AM): Sam, offical word?
sPIEs6Jason (12:51:25 AM): Spy?Cit? Sleep?
Sorin the Seeker (12:51:30 AM): With conensus, Rey you have been Exiled from the Burg under suspicion of being a Spy.
rdelantar (12:51:43 AM): ...
Sorin the Seeker (12:51:44 AM): I will say nice things later.
spies6Kirsten (12:51:46 AM): as much of a consensus as 6 is...
spies6gretchen2 (12:51:51 AM): lol
sPIEs6Jason (12:51:54 AM): Indeed -_-
spies6pete (12:51:57 AM): wow....he said nice things later
Sorin the Seeker (12:52:00 AM): It has been quite the grueling night.
spies6Georgia (12:52:03 AM): People have been exiled over less number of votes.
spies6gretchen2 (12:52:07 AM): moreso now........
spies6gretchen2 (12:52:17 AM): says me who went out for lunch and came back
Sorin the Seeker (12:52:21 AM): After 5 hours 30 minutes and 34 seconds the group, all 6 of you, has finally reached a consensus.
Sorin the Seeker (12:52:39 AM): That was a very interesting round all compiled into just that time.
spies6Kirsten (12:52:46 AM): 5 hours...I'm so drained
Sorin the Seeker (12:52:50 AM): Thank you to all for participating. =)
spies6jenya (12:52:58 AM): I have such a headache
spies6gretchen2 (12:53:03 AM): i bet you do
spies6pete (12:53:03 AM): if rey turns up cit....I may just hang myself.....
spies6gretchen2 (12:53:08 AM): lmao pete
spies6Kirsten (12:53:08 AM): hahahaha
spies6Kirsten (12:53:11 AM): seriously
Sorin the Seeker (12:53:15 AM): Recall that tomorrow and saturday will be a day off, aim optional, burg closed. Game on Sunday morning and Imprisonment #9 will be Monday at 8:00 PM CDT.
spies6gretchen2 (12:53:24 AM): come onnnnnnnnnnnnn
sPIEs6Jason (12:53:24 AM): But is Rey a Spy?? -_-
Sorin the Seeker (12:53:25 AM): Okay it is now time to end this and find out whether Rey was a Citizen or a Spy.
Sorin the Seeker (12:53:28 AM): And I won't drag it out for you.
sPIEs6Jason (12:53:28 AM): yay
Sorin the Seeker (12:53:32 AM): Rey was a Citizen.
spies6gretchen2 (12:53:37 AM): no shit
sPIEs6Jason (12:53:37 AM): That sucks
Sorin the Seeker (12:53:39 AM): Fourteen remain.
spies6jenya (12:53:42 AM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (12:53:43 AM): Wow.
spies6gretchen2 (12:53:44 AM): le sigh
spies6Kirsten (12:53:47 AM): =/
sPIEs6Jason (12:53:50 AM): I can't stay on to talk about it I really need sleep sorry guys
spies6pete (12:53:54 AM): right, ok, I am off
spies6pete (12:54:00 AM): Im not in the mood, Im really not
Sorin the Seeker (12:54:03 AM): I am going to go as well I will talk to you later.
Sorin the Seeker (12:54:05 AM): Good night.
spies6gretchen2 (12:54:10 AM): goodnight all
rdelantar (12:54:15 AM): i want my money back
spies6gretchen2 (12:54:21 AM): congrats to everyone who made it this far
spies6gretchen2 (12:54:23 AM): looooooool
spies6pete (12:54:25 AM): good night all
spies6pete (12:54:27 AM) has left the room.
sPIEs6Jason (12:54:28 AM) has left the room.
spies6gretchen2 (12:54:32 AM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (12:54:33 AM): TOO BAD VIEWERS!
DolusDeceit (12:54:40 AM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (12:54:43 AM): NO MONEYBACK GUARANTEE.
rdelantar (12:54:47 AM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (12:54:48 AM): heh
TheRockbiter (12:54:53 AM) has left the room.
Tony The Moron (12:55:02 AM): huhhhhhhh?
spies6Georgia (12:55:04 AM): Oh boy.
spies6Georgia (12:55:06 AM): Scary now.
spies6Georgia (12:55:12 AM): Two players, the rest are viewrs and Sam.
spies6Georgia (12:55:19 AM): Can we talk with the viewers now?
spies6Kirsten (12:55:21 AM): *is scared*
spies6Georgia (12:55:22 AM):
spies4mason (12:56:01 AM) has left the room.
spies6Georgia (12:56:47 AM):
lexprod2000 (12:57:20 AM) has left the room.
spies6Kirsten (12:58:55 AM): ugh
spies6Kirsten (12:59:03 AM): what a horrible voting method
spies6Kirsten (12:59:06 AM): :*
spies6Kirsten (12:59:08 AM):
spies6Georgia (12:59:28 AM): I think it would've worked fine, if we weren't at it for so long.
spies6Kirsten (12:59:37 AM): yeah, maybe
spies6Georgia (12:59:53 AM): Because everyone reaches a point where they just don't care anymore, and will do just about anything to end it all.
spies6Kirsten (1:00:04 AM): haha
spies6Kirsten (1:00:05 AM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:00:56 AM): I still think Rey lied to me...
spies6Kirsten (1:01:24 AM): and if it's true and he did, then I'm really pissed he didn't come clean abou tit
spies6Georgia (1:03:24 AM): I dunno.
spies6Georgia (1:03:34 AM): My head is all jumbled with tonights events.
spies6Georgia (1:03:52 AM): Though the after effects will be interesting to say the least.
spies6Kirsten (1:03:56 AM): oh yeah
spies6Kirsten (1:05:34 AM): Things that will be discussed. Why we didn't exile Amelia again: Why was Gretchen so adamant that Rey was a citizen: Tiberius changing his mind on Rey
spies6Kirsten (1:05:40 AM): and much more
spies6Georgia (1:06:07 AM): Yuppyupp.
spies6Georgia (1:06:40 AM): I foresee" Georgia, you stood against it, but why didn't you use your position as DA to try harder".
spies6Kirsten (1:07:11 AM): hahahaha
spies6Kirsten (1:07:13 AM): I doubt that
spies6Georgia (1:07:40 AM): Did Pete every say why he switched from Amelia to Rey?
spies6Kirsten (1:07:48 AM): no
spies6Kirsten (1:07:50 AM): I don't think so
spies6Georgia (1:09:17 AM): Tiberius already did the "amelia was saved" thing. lol
spies6Kirsten (1:11:03 AM): ?
spies6Kirsten (1:11:08 AM): Amelia was saved?
spies6Georgia (1:11:26 AM): spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=1860
spies6Georgia (1:12:20 AM): WEll I'm out. Cya.
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ktbakerJ (1:14:47 AM) has left the room.
spies6Ariel (1:15:37 AM) has entered the room.