Exile #10 - Discussion

[Tiberius]

Jul 10, 2009 14:00:42 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

Georgia has placed a vote on one of the top two exile candidates 4 times out of 9 exiles:

Episode 1: She votes Mei Yun, who gets 3 votes to Roxy's 4.

Episode 4. She votes Levi, counterpart to Donald.

Episode 6. She votes Iris who was obviously a spy

Episode 7: She votes Thor, counterpart to Amelia.

I'm going to ignore episode 6, since that was basically an obvious vote that doesn't tell us much since it was unanimous.

Episode 1: (Georgia votes) Citizen -> (Actual exile) Unkown

Episode 4: (Georgia votes) Unkown -> (Actual exile) Spy

Episode 7: (Georgia votes) Citizen -> (Other Candidate) Spy

In 2 of the 3 cases where she has actually placed a vote on a target likely to be exiled it involved a spy as the candidate she did not vote for.

For someone who ignores bandwagons or other people's votes in determining how she votes, I find it suspicious that multiple times this has involved her voting against spies in close exiles. Georgia can basically get away with voting whoever she wants based on her playstyle, and I think it's suspicious that of the few times her vote has mattered in an exile it has been on the opposite wagon of a spy.

Fascinating indeed.

[Georgia]

Who was trying to change the subject, Tiberius?

I did not have knowledge of Thor being the popular candidate. I believe by the time the votes came out, I knew of... three possible Thor voters. Kirsten, Khaled, and I think Gretchen told me.

I believe I was one of the first Mei voters, and did not vote her because she was a "popular" candidate.


Hindsight is always 20/20 Kirsten.

Mirela, my reasons for voting are in Levi's player analysis thread.

If you want the full reason(s), I'm sure I can ask Sam if I can post the reason(s) I gave in my confessional.

Nice to finally know what you "really" think, Kirsten. Convenient when Roxy and Jenya post things about you, hmm?

[Georgia]

Don't forget episode 8, where I was the only one in the chat whom voted against the Rey bandwagon.

[Jenya]

Georgia, can you please rank the remaining players from scummiest to cittest? If you want, you can leave out the 3-4 Cittest.

[Georgia]

Mirela
Jenya
Khaled
Gretchen
Levi
Pete
Boris
Jason
Kirsten
Roxy

I think that is everyone.

You can do the same, if you please.

[Levi]

Georgia, is that from cit to spy or from spy to cit?

And Tibby.

[Georgia]

"Georgia, can you please rank the remaining players from scummiest to cittest?"

Scummiest
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Cittest

[Roxy]

TIBERIUS. . I though it was either going to be myself or him this imprisonment after last exile. Damn those assholes!

[Kirsten]

Jul 10, 2009 19:06:06 GMT -5 Georgia said:

Nice to finally know what you "really" think, Kirsten. Convenient when Roxy and Jenya post things about you, hmm?

So Roxy and Jenya post things against me and I can no longer post suspicions?

You were not really on my radar until this episode, so I have not posted suspicions against you until this episode. It's not like under the hot iron of Roxy + Jenya I decided to toss out some Georgia suspicions that I had been sandbagging for a long time.

I read through all your posts in the burg today. I think it's definitely possible that you're a spy. You have very little connections with any of the dead spies, except Amelia, who you have pressured since episode 7, but did not ever vote for.

Jul 10, 2009 21:37:46 GMT -5 Roxy said:

TIBERIUS. . I though it was either going to be myself or him this imprisonment after last exile. Damn those assholes!

No offense, but I was slightly hoping for the other outcome there .

[Georgia]

Apparently I'm hot for Donald.

Was Tiberius almost swayed to vote for Boris in the live chat right before Exile? By.. Levi I think?
If I was a spy, why would I remind him of his thread and to keep his vote on Amelia?

If I was a spy - I wouldn't.


No connections with Iris?
I could've sworn she made a circle of forgetfulness and voted for me. If we were spy buddies, why would she even do that? It involved something from the first day of the game, which she "forgot" to ask, since we were on different teams. Why even do that if we were buddies? Why even make that connection between the two of us - when we'd not spoken before that?

[Kirsten]

Why didn't you vote Amelia. You pressure Amelia for the last 3 episodes, but don't vote her in any?

[Kirsten]

Hey, Khaled. I discovered today that I accidentally blocked you yesterday. That would explain why you abruptly logged off in the middle of a conversation.

Apparently CTRL + J is block, and CTRL + H is to open up chat logs. Damn you keyboard shortcuts!!

[Roxy]

Jul 11, 2009 1:37:21 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

No offense, but I was slightly hoping for the other outcome there .

Should have imprisoned me then, babe.

[Kirsten]

Jul 11, 2009 11:28:36 GMT -5 Roxy said:

Jul 11, 2009 1:37:21 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

No offense, but I was slightly hoping for the other outcome there .

Should have imprisoned me then, babe.

An egregious error.

[Roxy]

Jul 11, 2009 11:33:49 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

Jul 11, 2009 11:28:36 GMT -5 Roxy said:

Should have imprisoned me then, babe.

An egregious error.

On your part? Clearly.

[Georgia]

What makes the deflector role, a citizen role? ~ Georgia, Page 1.

Georgia, can you please rank the remaining players from scummiest to cittest? ~ Jenya, page 2.

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You can do the same, if you please. ~ Georgia, page 2.

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Jenya, can you please rank the remaining players from scummiest to cittest?
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I don't think I "pressured" Amelia. I asked her a bunch of questions, but I don't see that as pressuring.

I thought of Amelia as an easy lynch for episode 7. A lot of times the easiest lynch candidates end up citizen. I think I focused more on Thor with a side of Amelia, because of how Tiberius semi-threw him under the bus after Faith's Exile in the main chat. Also because of how both Thor and Tiberius changed their opinion on me.. seemingly quickly.

I didn't get a chance to vote for whom I wanted in Episode 8. Would I have voted for Amelia if Rey's exile was successfully blocked? Probably. Can I say for certain? No. Because I can't say for sure what would've gone on, if Rey's exile was blocked.

Most of my time I tried figuring out what Mirela did and thought for episode 7, because I still couldn't - and still can't understand the reasoning behind it. As well as what happened to Rey. Tiberius was fresher in my mind, so that is pretty much why I voted him. If Amelia had shown her face, and been fresher in my mind - then I probably would've voted her. But I can't say for sure, as I have hindsight on my side in looking back, so it mucks perception up.

[Georgia]

Could the Deflector role be the citizen counterpart to the spyWatcher?

Or the citizen Watcher be the counterpart to the spyDeflector?

[Jenya]

Khaled spyest
Kirsten
Gretchen
Georgia
Boris
(Mirela, Pete, Jason, Levi, Roxy cittest 5)

[Gretchen]

spies6gretchen2 (4:55:47 PM): yeah i agree with you there. question is, who will be exiled. my money's on tibby or pete. if he's a cit too. tibby is i think.
spies6Georgia (4:56:33 PM): Yeah. That sucks..
spies6Georgia (4:56:48 PM): I don't think either of them are as easy to lynch as Rey though.
spies6gretchen2 (4:57:13 PM): oops not exile. i mean imprison. that one. i get them confused all the time.
spies6gretchen2 (4:57:20 PM): the one the spies pick.
spies6Georgia (4:58:20 PM): Oh haha.
spies6Georgia (4:58:44 PM): I noticed that a lot of the players left are people whom can be swayed in terms of their vote.
spies6gretchen2 (4:59:02 PM): yes they are. except you.
spies6gretchen2 (5:00:20 PM): who do you think will be imprisoned?
spies6Georgia (5:00:40 PM): I would be surprised if Jenya isn't.
spies6Georgia (5:00:48 PM): Kirsten possibly.
spies6gretchen2 (5:01:31 PM): you think? jenya still isn't clear. yeah she was fake imprisoned, doesn't mean she's not a spy. maybe kirsten. i reckon it'll be tibby or pete.
spies6Georgia (5:01:33 PM): Maybe Khaled if he is a citizen.
spies6gretchen2 (5:01:42 PM): yeah good point
spies6Georgia (5:01:49 PM): I think Jenya because she is supposedly the protector.
spies6Georgia (5:02:02 PM): I don't think her fake imprisonment clears her at all.
spies6Georgia (5:02:20 PM): Why Tibby or Pete?
spies6gretchen2 (5:02:21 PM): what is the protector again?
spies6Georgia (5:02:39 PM): I guess they make people immune at exile and imprisonment.
spies6gretchen2 (5:03:04 PM): because yvette trusted them. they trust eachother. they have an alliance and if the spies don't get rid of them, they're silly.
spies6Georgia (5:03:32 PM): Tiberius and Pete have an alliance?
spies6Georgia (5:03:40 PM): Damn. Does everyone have an alliance in this game?
spies6Georgia (5:03:50 PM): Like Tiberius said.. this isn't survivor. lol
spies6gretchen2 (5:04:22 PM): i think they do. i know they were part of the circle that yvette had. well i think they were. based on their early votes on the spies. i don't know if they continued it. but i know she trusted them.

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It's like I can see the future.

Just thought I'd share this with you all - never know what may come in handy this late in the game.

[Boris]

I'm not quite sure what is so handy about it.

[Gretchen]

Oh, I forgot to add... I have no idea if Tibby and Pete had an alliance. I kinda made it up.

Boris, if Georgia is a Spy and she decided to take this info back to her Spy buddy, there's a good chance Tibby was imprisoned as a result of this discussion and of course the other evidence which made him lean Cit. I am not saying it's invaluable. I am not even saying Georgia is a Spy. I am saying you never know what could be handy info to have around at this stage of the game. Maybe Georgia told this to someone else, who then passed it onto their Spy partner. I don't know. I just felt like sharing.

[Georgia]

I didn't tell anyone about that Gretchen, didn't see any reason to.