Amor De La Kirsten's Undersea Grotto

[Kirsten]

I'm just going to dump a lot of information into this thread.

[Kirsten]

Almathea

Pete - the thing is; in the mini game he seemed quite good at being mafia even through fighting with Ariel. hes too loud to be UTR but too quiet to be centre of attention; but seems to have opinions when i speak to him; seems well balanced with his opinions, im going to go ahead and say leaning citizen but in typing this ive come to realise i need to exlpore him further


Jason - he seems funny. Not taking character playing too seriously. But game wise; i have to ask him more; he seems to be quite fence sittery as Tibz said we haven't talked to much but doesn't he always seem to be "there"? Active lurkery?


Jenya - Right, I also though Ellis' idea was spyish at first; and I also thought Jenya was sweet and calm! Last night in the chat Paris was asking us what we thought "lurking" was using a response from Jenya - Jenya was right to defend herself there; but just talking to Ed and Tibz about this, when I started to look back on the chat it was kind of odd?
Like I mean odd as in; like, she used her example of think Ellis' idea was scummy right off the mark as if she was trying to PROVE herself really desperately. Then when pointed out that Paris was using her response as a general example; the team chat discussion turned to a fight with her fuelling the fire! My opinion is this overdefensive, trying to prove herself leans her to spy side.

[Kirsten]

Jaya

spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=625&page=2#2103

+cit Jenya

May 21, 2009 11:57:41 GMT -5 Jaya said:

MIA
Jocelyn

Suspicious
Jen (as previously posted)
Ellis (being invisible, wanting to trade teammates, want a no lynch)

Not very suspicious
Tib
Jason

Could go either way
Rey -- always here and always jabbering
Alma -- hits and runs
Gab -- seems ok, but too early to tell
Paris -- seems ok, but i'm definitely keeping my eye on him
Pete -- i can't seem to get any kind of handle on him

May 23, 2009 12:59:10 GMT -5 Jaya said:

Yvette, I think a lot of us are taking a well-deserved break before imprisonment. I've been catching up in my confessional and trying to do some reading. So many of those chat logs are way too boring to read the second time. I'm sure things will pick up after imprisonment.

From my old team: Rey, Tib, Joc, and Pete.
I'm leaning towards cit on all of them.

I'm going to reserve judgment on my new teammates until I see a little more of them.

10 self-votes is a lot to overcome with only 15 in our group.

May 24, 2009 12:00:06 GMT -5 Jaya said:

May 23, 2009 12:59:10 GMT -5 Jaya said:

From my old team: Rey, Tib, Joc, and Pete.
I'm leaning towards cit on all of them.

I'm adding Kirsten to my probable cit list. Her case against Levi seems pretty solid and well-thought out. And, of course, Ariel is on my almost proven cit list. (Don't worry, I'll reconsider this as necessary, but for now we surely have more productive places to look.)

[Kirsten]

Donald

Gretchen - Very inactive. I popped online today just before she logged off, so I still didn't get to chat with her. She's on my suspicions list pretty much just for lack of activity. Hopefully I'll get to talk with her before Exile though and learn more about her.

Levi - Has been very active and contributed a fairly good amount. I have a positive view of Levi and haven't seen him do anything suspicious.

Kirsten - I've talked with her some. I recall being a little suspicious of her from chatting with her during the competition that came down to rey, Mei, and Ariel. I don't recall what I was reading, though, so I need to review the logs. I was getting some bad vibes though.

Players I may exile:
Kirsten
Amelia
Gretchen
Georgia
Roxy

Players I think are doin good:
Oswald
MeiYun
Boris
Levi

Neutral:
William

Chat between the two of us:

spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=641#1922

May 20, 2009 8:43:28 GMT -5 Donald said:

Hey everyone,

I want to say that I talked with Gretchen a little bit last night. I sent her a private message with a list of questions, and heard back from her, and will be sending her another message tonight. She has some good insight, but her time zone does make the game difficult for communication, so I highly recommend you all use PMs to contact her as well. It's slower than chat, but it works.

May 20, 2009 8:50:07 GMT -5 Donald said:

I learned some other interesting information last night, though, and you are no longer my top suspect.

Kirsten, is Levi's quote all in one post, or separate posts? If they are separate, where did each one come from? I am looking forward to your response, Levi.

May 26, 2009 11:15:01 GMT -5 Donald said:

If I have time before the exile, I'll post details why. I've mentioned a lot of reasoning in the team chat and in private chats already.

Citizen
Ariel

Leaning Citizen

[/u]
Thor
Kirsten
Ed
Georgia
Rey

Neutral
William
Tiberius
Pete
Yvette
Jaya

Suspects
Gretchen
Roxy[/quote]

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Jun 2, 2009 0:13:13 GMT -5 Donald said:

Levi, you said you an alliance with Mei, so was your claiming you were considering voting her to try to "throw people off" and make other players not think you had this alliance?

What made you two form this alliance and decide to trust each other 100%? Do you think she was being framed? What made you believe this?

If Mei was being framed, who were all the players you think were involved in framing her? How was she framed?

This post made me really suspect Levi + Donald as spy buddies, because Donald decided to hop on the Levi case only after his own ass was on the line.

Jun 2, 2009 16:45:29 GMT -5 Donald said:

My vote's sticking with Gretchen. Same reasons as before.


I haven't talked to Faith yet, I need to meet her.

I don't remember Donald posting his reasons from before, ever. From what I gathered it was from her being suspicious in chat and maybe going for the easy lynch on Roxy.

[Kirsten]

Iris

May 18, 2009 19:21:55 GMT -5 Iris said:

Mirela - Haven't spoken to her at all yet. I understand Internet issues so let's see if she steps up to bat before we judge.

spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg90999&action=display&thread=616#2313

May 23, 2009 15:08:05 GMT -5 Iris said:

Levi – I need to talk to him, we've never spoken apart from pleasantries as far as I remember.

Mirela – I was pretty damn convinced that Mirela was a spy during Episode One. Callahan convinced me I was wrong about that wasn't due to her not knowing that Spies got their alignments before citizens. Nevertheless, Mirela stayed on Callahan's case, and I believe voted him. Callahan told Mirela he'd convinced me not to vote her. I believe if she were a Spy she'd not have tried to vote him out when he was defending her.

Jason/Jenya/Gabriela/Ellis – I have spoken to you hardly at all but my secondhand impressions of you are positive. If you see me on chat and I don't get there first, hit me up, please.

May 26, 2009 15:55:13 GMT -5 Iris said:

Sam, I think the confusion is coming because people think if they want someone out, that's a negative, ie a minus sign.

I'll be using my minus vote for Levi, because I think he's a Citizen. A Spy would be a lot more likely to be careful about what he says. Someone who's contradicting himself that much is more likely to be a Citizen who isn't carefully watching his words because he doesn't have anything to hide. We all change our opinions over time, but a Spy is more likely to try to make a strong effort to be consistent. I think a Spy tell is when you find one glaring inconsistency from someone, not a bunch of inconsistencies.

Jun 2, 2009 19:39:56 GMT -5 Iris said:

Kirsten, you make a case against Donald, throw a fit that others don't follow up on it, and then vote Levi?

I have a real, real problem with this (and yes, I know you already made a case on Levi). I was going to vote you over it, until I saw you saying you won't be here to defend yourself. But that is a classic scum move...starting a bandwagon. then moving your vote to someone who is in no danger of getting lynched?

Jun 2, 2009 19:41:16 GMT -5 Iris said:

That being said, Yvette is my top suspect. The case on Donald...well, I was half-convinced by it but then your not voting him makes it seem too much like a scum bandwagon. I'm voting Amelia because I don't buy her argument about the challenge.

Iris likes to be suspicious of her spy buddies when it doesn't matter.

Jun 7, 2009 21:09:17 GMT -5 Iris said:

Pete, I keep reading that everyone trusts you...I need to talk to you, William and Gretchen more as we've barely interacted at all. The universally trusted thing bothers me though...not saying it makes me think you're a Spy, what I'm trying to say is that town who are universally trusted usually turn out to be entirely wrong about the

Anyway...my suspicions. I posted my suspicion of Georgia. Since I've been unable to chat on AIM or the Burg I can't follow up on that, but I am reading the Burg. Ed, re my thread about Georgia...my point wasn't that I found her suspicious for forgetting...my point was that I found her suspicious for accusing Levi due to his forgetting things and then suddenly remembering them, and then she did the very same thing in the chat with me.

My other suspicions I never got to post on due to the Jailing. I am finding Donald and Amelia suspicious because they were the other 2 front runners in the last Exile. I believe one of them must have had Spy buddies trying to swing the vote at the last minute. If I were able to vote today I'd be voting Donald because he was closer to Exile than Amelia. My top 3 votes on the ballot would be Donald, Amelia and Georgia.

More suspicion of spy buddies. Makes me wonder about her calling out Pete + Gretchen pretty much unnecessarily.

Jun 15, 2009 14:42:40 GMT -5 Iris said:

Okay, Jenya, you asked me something and I can't find the question now so I'm replying from memory. I can't post chat logs, they're on my laptop. However, if someone posts the Exile chat from last night you'll see what prompted me to claim. It was Kirsten, Ellis and Khaled naming me as top suspects. Kirsten and Ellis didn't give reasons until I asked them, which made it highly likely to me that some Spy was going around telling tales about me and trying to orchestrate a pileup on me. If I panicked, so be it. I knew my time on the laptop battery was limited and I felt I was in serious danger. Quite a few people have had me on their suspects lists for a while now.

[Kirsten]

Amelia

May 19, 2009 16:11:15 GMT -5 Amelia said:

Gretchen - Not enough for observations yet.

Levi - Aside from total hotness, I haven't chatted with him yet, so I can't speak to anything but the physical.

Kirsten - I haven't chatted with her yet, but she seems to have good things to say in our thread. Not enough to tell yet.

May 25, 2009 14:13:28 GMT -5 Amelia said:

Levi - I feel good about trusting him for now. He's a bit of a pot stirrer and can be a little overly suspicious of people, but he's good at getting people talking and reacting, which helps to catch Spies. I doubt he's a Spy.

May 26, 2009 19:13:42 GMT -5 Amelia said:

Anyone think Sam wouldn't have replaced Mirela unless she was a Spy? Paris has pointed out that she could have a role as well, but the numbers say it's more likely that she was a Spy. How many Cits have Roles? Maybe 3? Versus 6 Spies remaining?

Jun 11, 2009 14:51:20 GMT -5 Amelia said:

I have to say that this case may be light, but I agree with Jenya that at least Levi is making cases. I certainly haven't ever started one (well, not correctly with its own thread and everything) yet.

I was chatting with both Jenya and Levi when this was all going down. Levi pointed me in the direction of this thread. I read it, said it was quite suspicious that Mirela wouldn't say who she was talking to. I mentioned it to Jenya and she said that it was she who asked Mirela to play along. Jenya was quick to say that she needed to clear up the controversy.

That all being said, I have often said that I think Mirela is way too focused on the "Spy in Yvette, Ariel, Iris, Faith" camp. And for her to still be focused solely on Faith is irresponsible if she is a Citizen.

Jun 17, 2009 16:54:34 GMT -5 Amelia said:

I really tried to find something in Ed's posts to justify his Imprisonment. He wasn't the most prolific wordsmith in his posts, though, and the only thing I could find from back in Ep #3 when the Spies evidently chose him for Imprisonment during future week, was a suspicion of Faith, Iris and Mirela. Well two of those three are gone. It may be that Iris and Mirela are two of the Spies and were worried he was onto them.

There's still time, but I have a feeling I'm gonna be voting Mirela at next Exile. Ed must have been onto something.

Jun 20, 2009 13:15:39 GMT -5 Amelia said:

I know. You've been waiting with baited breath. Sorry it has taken so long, but I have the time at the moment, so I did some work.

Grades: S=Spy, S-="Likely" to "could be" a Spy, N=Neutral (as in smack dab in the middle), C-="Could be" to "likely" Cit, C=Cit

Pete - Our conversations on AIM have been pretty muted. We've not interacted a lot, but the "vibe" I get from him is pretty neutral. I don't know if we've done anything but talk about our suspicions together. There hasn't been any direct questioning of one another and he seems pretty absent a lot (like more than me!).
[Grade: S-]

Levi - I've talked with Levi extensively and have more or less trusted him from the beginning. He seemed like a younger, new player who was really trying not to get Exiled. I've since realized that this could all be an act. In a way, the anonymity of this game is a double-edged sword because you can't tell how someone plays, but they can also foist a completely different identity on you. I think Levi is a consummate actor and could very well be pulling my chain and using me.

Here's the first convo I had with him where I began to suspect he was better at this game than he was letting on:

spies6levi (5:21:29 PM): What's your stance on Mirela?
spies6amelia (5:21:47 PM): I think she's a bit obssessed with the Faith/Iris/Yvette spy theory
spies6amelia (5:21:55 PM): I have her at 9
spies6amelia (5:22:00 PM): for the Exile if that helps
spies6amelia (5:22:08 PM): so not overly suspicious, but not out of teh running
spies6levi (5:22:11 PM): I'm putting her higher than that
spies6amelia (5:22:29 PM): as in top 5 higher or?
spies6levi (5:22:54 PM): Well that depends on how this convo plays out
spies6amelia (5:22:59 PM): haha
spies6amelia (5:22:59 PM): ok
spies6levi (5:48:03 PM): Check the Burg
spies6amelia (5:52:32 PM): ok
spies6levi went away at 5:54:04 PM
spies6amelia (5:55:52 PM): interesting
spies6levi (5:55:52 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
spies6levi returned at 6:11:21 PM
spies6levi (6:15:08 PM): Did you read it?
spies6amelia (6:15:15 PM): I did indeed
spies6amelia (6:15:24 PM): strange that she wouldn't tell you who she was talking to
spies6amelia (6:15:36 PM): as if telling you even if you were a Spy would be giving you info
spies6levi (6:15:46 PM): I know
spies6levi (6:15:57 PM): I thought about that when I posted it, because I don't like when I'm wrong
spies6levi (6:16:04 PM): i went through every possible scenario of that
spies6levi (6:16:12 PM): And none of them had a protown explananation
spies6amelia (6:16:29 PM): unless she was talking to someone about a role she has and didn't want to let on
spies6amelia (6:16:30 PM): but still
spies6amelia (6:16:37 PM): telling you wouldn't tell you that she had a role
spies6levi (6:16:54 PM): No it wouldn't
spies6amelia (6:19:19 PM): so you and she both suspect Faith; what're your thoughts on that?
spies6levi (6:19:39 PM): I don't have any original thoughts that I've created
spies6levi (6:19:49 PM): She does have a tendency to jump on the popular opinion
spies6levi (6:19:55 PM): And she was involved in the fake case thing
spies6levi (6:20:01 PM): But I'm still wanting to question her
spies6levi (6:20:17 PM): After I can do that, I'll be able to make a better judgment
spies6amelia (6:20:49 PM): no I mean about Mirela suspecting Fait
spies6levi (6:21:03 PM): Oh about her?
spies6levi (6:21:17 PM): I think she was making stuff up as she went along, personally
spies6levi (6:21:23 PM): Yes, the fake case thing was there
spies6levi (6:21:36 PM): But after that she went into very subjective views
spies6levi (6:21:41 PM): Like how Faith talks, or her personality
spies6levi (6:21:52 PM): Things that you can't argue against
spies6levi (6:22:02 PM): But things that she tried to make sound like scumtells

Basically, he's reasoning out that Mirela not telling him who she was talking to couldn't possibly be to protect the Cits in any way. Obviously this case fell apart when Jenya stepped forward, but the reaction from Levi is what I'm highlighting here.
[Grade: S-]

Jenya - This girl is aggressive as hell on AIM. She's always grilling me about something, which is a good thing in my opinion. Although we don't always agree, I tend to lean more Cit on her since she seems to genuinely be searching for the truth. Now, of course she can definitely be the "helpful Spy," too, so that aggressiveness might be masking something else.
[Grade: C-]

Mirela - I find the fact that she was fixated on there being a Spy in Iris/Faith/Yvette/Ariel and the fact that she was so eagerly willing to go along with withholding info from Levi suspicious. Granted, unless they were orchestrating a grand scheme, I don't think they're Spies together, so if one is a Spy, the other most likely is not. Ed suspected Mirela. And her unhelpful focus on the one thing (even though it randomly turned out to be true, despite it seeming like it wouldn't) combined with her willingness to lie give me that morning-after-whiskey taste in my mouth.
[Grade: S]

Kirsten - Well, I have to eat crow on this one. I'm pretty darn sure she's a Cit, and a helpful one at that. I mistook her aggressiveness for scumminess. I'd be shocked if she flipped Spy. And she'd get kudos from me for playing so well either way.
Grade: C]

Jason - Our few conversations have been pretty in depth, talking about our suspicions. I haven't talked to him in a few episodes, but I trusted him pretty ok back when we did chat. His posts don't seem all that prolific, but he mentioned that he chats a lot, so I can't call the kettle black, now can I?
Grade: C-]

Gretchen - I haven't talked to this one much, if at all outside group chats. She was away for a bit after I was, though, so it makes sense that we didn't have a big chance to talk. I don't really even have a read on her at all.
[Grade: N]

Jul 6, 2009 15:04:10 GMT -5 Amelia said:

I guess Pete. He's really the only one I don't know much of anything about.

There are also a bunch of posts I didn't quote where Amelia wants to exile Mirela.

[Kirsten]

Tomorrow, I plan to go through my chats with these dead spies, and start to draw some conclusions.

One thing I find interesting is that all of the spies listed Pete as neutral-spyish. Both Donald + Iris viewed Levi as a citizen, although Donald looked to jump on the Levi wagon when his was full steam.

Most of the spies have almost no stance on Gretchen, except for Donald, who sent her PM's but voted her anyway....2 times and a planned 3rd.

Iris thought Mirela was a spy episode 1. Amelia thought she was a spy for being replaced, and wanted her exiled later in the game.

I think Jenya looks cit from interactions with Almathea, and Jaya especially. Jason, fairly neutral throughout, but Amelia seemed to really trust him (and handed him a role investigation vote...allegedly)

[Kirsten]

I would also like to review Gretchen, Mirela, Levi before exile. Pete/Jason/Jenya will have to wait, as they have very small chances of being exiled and I won't have time to look at everyone.

[Jenya]

I'd really like to know what started the bad blood between Mirela and Amelia. I've seen Mirela call Amelia an idiot an awful lot, and I've seen Amelia vote the crap out of Mirela. Kirsten says it was a trend. So can anyone trace this back to a forum event or group chat? I'm going to head for the Future Challenge threads.

[Mirela]

I believe it all started when she stated she thought I was a spy mainly because I was replaced.

[Jason]

Jul 21, 2009 23:51:33 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

Iris


More suspicion of spy buddies. Makes me wonder about her calling out Pete + Gretchen pretty much unnecessarily.

Jun 15, 2009 14:42:40 GMT -5 Iris said:

Okay, Jenya, you asked me something and I can't find the question now so I'm replying from memory. I can't post chat logs, they're on my laptop. However, if someone posts the Exile chat from last night you'll see what prompted me to claim. It was Kirsten, Ellis and Khaled naming me as top suspects. Kirsten and Ellis didn't give reasons until I asked them, which made it highly likely to me that some Spy was going around telling tales about me and trying to orchestrate a pileup on me. If I panicked, so be it. I knew my time on the laptop battery was limited and I felt I was in serious danger. Quite a few people have had me on their suspects lists for a while now.

O.o is it just me or is she suspecting you and Ellis here?

[Kirsten]

I think that is Iris saying:

"I'm a citizen and I'm getting wagoned, so a spy must be behind it. Ellis and Kirsten were behind it! Those meanies!!"

[Jason]

Jul 22, 2009 11:44:47 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

I think that is Iris saying:

"I'm a citizen and I'm getting wagoned, so a spy must be behind it. Ellis and Kirsten were behind it! Those meanies!!"

You and Ellis really are meanies for both being Spies and doing that to Iris your partner :"(

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (8:39:57 PM): you don't suspect Levi, correct?
spies6Kirsten (8:40:01 PM): can I ask why?
spies6amelia (8:40:06 PM): I think he's on the up and up, yes
spies6amelia (8:40:11 PM): he's young
spies6amelia (8:40:17 PM): and a trifle immature, but I don't think he's a spy
spies6Kirsten (8:40:52 PM): because he's young and immature?
spies6amelia (8:40:56 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (8:40:57 PM): hehe
spies6amelia (8:40:59 PM): not because
spies6amelia (8:41:29 PM): but I think he seems a little erratic and overeager, which are definite spy traits, but I think those are explained by his youth
spies6amelia (8:41:44 PM): unless, of course, he's playing a chcaracter

About Levi:

spies6amelia (8:50:16 PM): I will say, though, that it will take a lot for me to suspect him; I go on reads, not so much the logic game
spies6amelia (8:50:33 PM): I'm inordinately bad at sussing out logic and much better with people

About Mirela:

spies6Kirsten (8:51:26 PM): example: I think Mirela logically is suspicious as hell, but I read her as a citizen.
spies6amelia (8:51:32 PM): haha
spies6amelia (8:51:42 PM): well, honestly I kind of agree with that, logic be damned
spies6amelia (8:51:50 PM): she's just obssessed with the conspiracy theory

spies6amelia (9:15:46 PM): (though I will admit that even tho I cautioned Mirela about being obssessed, sometimes the doctors don't follow the best medical advice)

When was this cautioning?

spies6Kirsten (3:10:59 PM): is there anyone that you suspect more after chatting with them on AIM?
spies6Kirsten (3:11:07 PM): yeah, I think it's a part of her character
spies6amelia (3:11:13 PM): well, Mirela I definitely suspected more after chatting with her
spies6amelia (3:11:32 PM): and Jenya sometimes makes me go hm
spies6amelia (3:11:38 PM): but I'm back and forth with her


spies6Kirsten (3:15:00 PM): what about Mirela made you suspect her more?
spies6amelia (3:15:29 PM): well she was soooo adamant about there being a spy in Yvette/Iris/Faith/Ariel
spies6Kirsten (3:15:32 PM): also, I thought you were of the opinion that Georgia/Roxy one was a spy, but if she and Roxy's fight was staged, wouldn't both have to be spies?
spies6amelia (3:15:47 PM): and when we chatted she seemed unwilling to look elsewhere just as a theoretical exercise even


spies6Kirsten (1:59:50 AM): so who are your top 3 suspects?
spies6amelia (2:00:05 AM): Ariel and Mirela definitely
spies6amelia (2:00:25 AM): and I guess given my previous talk of someone voting for me: Boris


spies6amelia (11:42:11 PM): Pete -- He's still a mystery to me. I've had maybe one short AIM convo with him. He's definitely someon I think might be a lurker Spy, but I don't have anything on him.

spies6amelia (11:43:28 PM): Levi -- this guy was one of my early choices for Cit, but he's been seen firing wild when he was up for Exile. If I can be said to have survived two Exiles, so can he.
spies6amelia (11:44:50 PM): Jenya -- She's been an Amelia supporter from way back. That being said: She was fake Imprisoned during the Sam Lies week, just like Iris was jailed. If we expect Spies to continue doing things tha try to throw us off of their trails, then this need to be looked at. That being said, I think she's probably a Cit, but my reads are "e-gut" reads and I can't see her face.

spies6amelia (11:47:40 PM): Kirsten -- She's obviously a robot (btw, my silly prize was posting in someone's confessional and your "orders" were from me ;-)), but I don't think she's a Cylon or Terminator. I think she's like Haley Joel Osmett in AI: cute. She has been onto Spies before and I think she will be again, because I don't think she'd bus two Spies after two early Spy Exiles.

spies6amelia (11:50:25 PM): Mirela -- She was so convinced that one of Ariel, Faith, Iris or Yvette was a Spy. We see that she's 1 for 4 and that would seem to vindicate her, except that she focused on that to the exclusion of all else for about three episodes and it netted one Spy. Spies try to look good by suspecting other Spies, so what a perfect sitautaion for her if she is one.
spies6amelia (11:51:59 PM): Jason -- Our conversations on AIM have been pretty sparse, but he seems genuinely interested in keeping a clean game (i.e. no flaming and bitchiness, which I totally agree with) and on top of that people seem to trust him, so unless he's a Spy, which would be a great coup for the Spies, he's probably almost as sure a Cit as you and Roxy.

spies6amelia (11:57:08 PM): Gretchen -- Wow this has taken awhile and now I smell bacon. And chocolate. Gretchen and I haven't ever talked on AIM to my knowledge. I think she's probably playing the Cit-keeping-low-not-making-waves card, but her jolly nature is a great cover for being a Spy.

spies6amelia (12:10:25 AM): I'll save you the trouble
spies6amelia (12:10:33 AM): gut check? Boris, Mirela, Tibs are the Spies

pies6Kirsten (1:06:54 AM): my vote plans to go to Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (1:06:57 AM): She may be Jolly
spies6Kirsten (1:06:59 AM): and is fat
spies6Kirsten (1:07:04 AM): but I think she be a spy
spies6Kirsten (1:07:24 AM): If I lead an exile on Gretchen and she is a cit, I might just shoot myself, though. that would be 3 in a row
spies6amelia (1:07:33 AM): I wish I were in a position to vote for the person I find most suspicious, but I think I'll have to vote for her too
spies6amelia (1:07:51 AM): which is SO spy-ish I know, but I KNOW I'm a Cit
spies6amelia (1:07:56 AM): can't say the same about Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (1:07:58 AM): that's pretty spyish
spies6Kirsten (1:07:59 AM): you spy

Amelia self-voted...Calculated move to avoid the Gretchen exile she thought might happen? Or simply because she sucked?

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (9:40:34 PM): as for Levi, why do you suspect him?
spies6donald (9:42:38 PM): He's been very contradictory. His news about a Mei alliance is interesting, but I don't think there's anything in that in itself. His stance on voting her or thinking she was a cit on exile one is really shaky. His excuse for a lot of his contradictions has been "I didn't mean that" or "I forgot"
spies6donald (9:43:31 PM): and those things happen. But it's pretty hard to forget that you made a firm stance against wanting to lynch inactives, and to then say you're considering who to vote from inactives
spies6donald (9:44:17 PM): I've been reading, I think from Levi, that some things in the case against him are misrepresented. i.e. two instances a few days, or more apart are being examined right next to each other.
spies6donald (9:44:44 PM): and the entire transition between the two needs to be observed, not just the two endpoints

[Kirsten]

Levi

Jaya - Agreed with the case on Levi.
Donald - Found him suspicious, but also said some of the case against him was a misrepresentation
Iris - Found Levi a clear citizen based on his...contradictions? Minus voted Levi.
Amelia - Found Levi a citizen based on him being "young and a trifle immature." Later backtracked to him being a possible spy.

We have one spy agreeing with the case from the other team (Jaya). One spy being on the fence (Donald), and two spies who very solidly believe that Levi is a citizen early on.

I'm going to tentatively lean citizen on Levi. These dead spies have shown a definite love of busing, and I think they would have been on Levi when it seemed very likely he was going down if he was a spy, rather than be those people defending him and sweet talking him.

Jenya

Almathea - Leaned spy on Jenya
Jaya - Thought Jenya was a spy. Attacked Jenya a few times.
Donald - No stance
Iris - No stance
Amelia - Calls her an "Amelia supporter from way back." Gives a non-opinion that seems to essentially boil down to "I'm leaning citizen, but she could still be a spy."

Both Almathea and Jaya's early attacks on Jenya lead me to believe she is probably a citizen.

Pete

Almathea - Leaning citizen, but needs to explore him further.
Jaya - Can't get a handle on him episode 1. Calls him a cit episode 2.
Donald - Listed him as neutral episode 2. No reasons.
Iris - No stance, but calls him out for being trusted by other people and then rambles a bit about it.
Amelia - Lists him at Neutral but gives him a S- anyway. Calls him potential lurker spy who she has no handle on.

I'm having a tough time getting a read on Pete from this. I think Iris calling him out is pretty odd, but other than that, he's pretty much just neutral for everyone. No read from it.

Jason

Almathea - No stance, calls him an active lurker
Jaya - Calls him not very suspicious.
Donald - No stance
Iris - No stance
Amelia - Votes him for role investigation, allegedly, calls him a citizen in episode 7 and 9. Here's one thing that I just caught that is bothersome, though. Amelia says in Episode 7 that her chats with Jason have been in-depth. IN episode 9, she says they've been sparse. So which is it? Fishy, Fishy.

Going to say Jason looks a little spy-ish here, simply based on the Amelia flip-flop, and role investigation shenanigans. With that being said, all of the other people Amelia said were "sure citizens" turned out to be citizens (and I'm a citizen).

Mirela

Almathea - No stance
Jaya - No stance
Donald - No stance
Iris - Thought she was a spy episode 1, changed her mind based on Callahan convincing her otherwise. Then Iris thought she was a citizen fairly solidly after that.
Amelia - Called her a spy for being replaced. Called her a spy for being too focused on Yvette/Ariel/Iris/Faith. Called her a spy because Ed was imprisoned and she was one of Ed's suspects along with Iris. Calls her a spy all along, and wants her exiled.

"There's still time, but I have a feeling I'm gonna be voting Mirela at next Exile. Ed must have been onto something." - Amelia. I find that fairly suspect. Kind of reminds me of the language she used with her vote on Donald: "Anyway, my vote's going on Donald. The whole vote lying-about-time-stamp-grammar defense doesn't fly with me. Kirsten did her job a little too well. "

I think Amelia calling out Mirela for being replaced speaks to Mirela more as a citizen, though. If my spy buddy was replaced, and a citizen wasn't, I'd probably keep that evidence under lock. Then again, I'm not one of these cannibalistic spies that love to bus the shit out of each other.

Overall, mixed. Amelia's words said she really wanted her dead, but never actually voted for Mirela, opting for Faith over her in 5, and Thor/nobody in 7/9.

Gretchen

Almathea - nothing
Jaya - nothing
Donald - Called her inactive episode 1. Interacted with her via PMs during episode 1. Called her a spy episode 2 based on her play in the team chat, but also had Roxy as a suspect. Ended up voting Gretchen, a swap from Roxy, after chatting with me. At that point Gretchen was the top exile candidate, so I don't know why Donald would feel it necessary to get on board if he was exiling a citizen either way.
Iris - Nothing, but did call her out at one point.
Amelia - Not much. Called her neutral in episode 7. Gave pretty much a non-stance episode 9.

Basically the interaction with Donald is the key here. My question is why would he swap from Roxy-cit to Gretchen- when Gretchen stood a good chance of being exiled from me + William + Ed? Why dirty his hands with a cit exile, when he could have sat on Roxy, who he originally planned to vote?