KIRSTEN MUST BE EXILED !

[Mirela]

Kirsten must be exiled next episode. She is a spy and she needs the boot! Enough said.

[Kirsten]

No.

[Levi]

Mirela, you may be more convincing if you give evidence rather than shouting it out at the top of your lungs.

[Mirela]

Kirsten is the one listed in about all of my spy pairs. Kirsten/Gretchen, Kirsten/Levi, Kirsten/Pete. I do not believe Levi/Pete are a spy pair. That just doesn't make any sense. Pete can't be a spy, he hasn't even been here for like ever! No, the spy has to be someone active, and that has been Kirsten. Why is she still alive? She should be dead by now. But let me explain to you as to why she's a spy.

She sets her reputation in the first episodes. She spy hunts all crazy and throws her fellow spies under the bus. I do not put it past Kirsten to do that, she's intelligent and would use that stradegy. Everyone thinks she's a citizen, and right after Iris's exile she takes the backseat. I know it may not seem like it because apparently Kirsten is such a 'good' citizen, but I believe she bandwagoned all those other votes. She followed me on the Thor Exile, she followed Jenya on Rey and Khaled, she voted Boris instead of Amelia. I mean come ON! She joined the Gretchen bandwagon. It only makes perfec sense. She's exiled six citizens, she hasn't been imprisoned yet, her whole game play has convinced everyone she's a citizen. That is why she's lasted so long.

Also Kirsten defended Amelia. She tried to save her, the only reason she did this is because other people wanted Boris gone, like myself. Kirsten joined tht bandwagon to try and ave her little spy buddy. I also think her conversations with Amelia about the immunity are staged. I'm so tired of her bullshit and she really needs to go. I'm voting her this exile no questions asked. She is a spy.

[Kirsten]

Jul 24, 2009 4:51:54 GMT -5 Kirsten said:

No.

[Levi]

Some thoughts on Mirela's recent post:

Pete can't be a spy, he hasn't even been here for like ever! No, the spy has to be someone active, and that has been Kirsten.

Writing off someone as a Spy because they are inactive is very very bad reasoning. Let's take a walk down Spies Memory Lane.

spies1.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gigi3098&action=display&thread=95

Gigi, one of the Spies from Spies 1, got a warning for inactivity.

spies4.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=emma910&action=display&thread=660

This Spy got modkilled from inactivity. Inactivity =/= Citizen, there's no denying it.

She sets her reputation in the first episodes. She spy hunts all crazy and throws her fellow spies under the bus. I do not put it past Kirsten to do that, she's intelligent and would use that stradegy.

Fair enough . . . even though that point is complete WIFOM, it can be used to support your argument.

Everyone thinks she's a citizen, and right after Iris's exile she takes the backseat.

Have you thought about the fact that Iris claimed when only Ellis and Kirsten were pushing her? If Kirsten is a Spy, that would entail a plan where a Spy scared another Spy into making a faulty claim that another Spy verified, and still got the other two Spies in the plan Exiled. And this would be after Kirsten bussed another Spy buddy beforehand. I have to suspend a lot of disbelief to believe that.

She followed me on the Thor Exile, she followed Jenya on Rey and Khaled, she voted Boris instead of Amelia. I mean come ON!

I wouldn't say that she followed you on the Thor Exile, from my point of view it looks like you both led it. Following Jenya on Rey and Khaled is a fair point. Your argument about Boris sounds very condescending towards the Boris vote. Ordinarily, that would be ok . . . but you did the same exact thing at that Exile. You even claimed that Amelia was a Spy while you voted Boris. There is absolutely no reason that you can call her out on that when you did the exact same thing. Your behavior at that Exile was even scummier! You Exiled a Citizen over someone you claimed was an "obvious Spy." Seriously, Mirela, the fact that you are attacking someone else on this point is very very scummy on your part.

She joined the Gretchen bandwagon. It only makes perfec sense.

Fair point, but your argument makes no where near perfect sense.

She's exiled six citizens, she hasn't been imprisoned yet,

You provide a possible reason for why she hasn't been Imprisoned yet . . . and then say that her not being Imprisoned is scummy. Do I need to point out the flaw here?

her whole game play has convinced everyone she's a citizen. That is why she's lasted so long.

Fair point, but could be argued either way. Is she convincing us that she's a Citizen because she's a Spy wanting to seem like a Citizen, or because she's an actual Citizen?

Also Kirsten defended Amelia. She tried to save her, the only reason she did this is because other people wanted Boris gone, like myself. Kirsten joined tht bandwagon to try and ave her little spy buddy.

Oh my God, Mirela. Your behavior was (sorry for the caps) EVEN WORSE THAN HER'S AT THAT EXILE. YOU THOUGHT AMELIA WAS A SPY BUT YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER, AND YET YOUR CALLING KIRSTEN OUT FOR NOT VOTING AMELIA? HOW CAN YOU, IN GOOD FAITH, DO THAT? I'm sorry for being rude, but if you are a Citizen, you are one of the worst that Spies has ever seen. You are not sounding citizen in chat any more, imo. Right now, my vote is going on to you. I have yet to see a legitimate protown argument from you, your voting record is shit. Haven't you called Jenya out on manipulation? In two instances of that (leading me on during episode 4 and the investigation) you were the one doing the dirty work, yet your trying to pin it back on Jenya!

In recent chats, you have avoided answering questions and have been completely uncooperative. At this point in the game, a Citizen should be an open book because they have nothing to hide and do not want the Spies to win. Over the entire game, your play has been abysmal. Always before I've assumed you were a horrible citizen . . . but now I'm strongly leaning Spy on you.

[Jenya]

Listen, screw you all for giving me shit about not commenting on the Burg today. I've been busy watching The Wire all week since you MOTHERFUCKERS exiled me like morons. My girlfriend's so excited that I'm out of the game that she's been dripping candle wax on me nonstop since Sunday and now that's pissing me off too. WHY CAN'T YOU WOMEN BE MORE LIKE THE CHICKS ON THE WIRE? JUST QUIT BOTHERING ME AND ANSWER THE DOOR WHEN I'M DRUNK AND COME KNOCKING. Jesus.

I know I wanted Gretchen gone at my exile but I was wrong. So what? SUE ME. I don't have time for your crap. Just exile either Levi or Kirsten and if one of them's not a spy I'll eat a stevedore.

[Kirsten]

Jul 24, 2009 16:20:29 GMT -5 Jenya said:

Just exile either Levi or Kirsten and if one of them's not a spy I'll eat a stevedore.

I'm thinking, No, actually.

[Mirela]

Oh god Levi you'd take any opportunity just to vote me off. Your insulting and I don't have to answer any of your god damn questions. First off I don't cooperate when the person asking me questions is completely rude.

You make me sick to my stomach.

[Levi]

Jul 24, 2009 18:19:09 GMT -5 Mirela said:

Oh god Levi you'd take any opportunity just to vote me off. Your insulting and I don't have to answer any of your god damn questions. First off I don't cooperate when the person asking me questions is completely rude.

You make me sick to my stomach.

Laying it on a bit think there?