False Role List

[Iris]

One of the strategies I've used very successfully in the past is to come up with a false claim when I'm pressured. Some people like to take their real role, whatever it is, and twist it, but I usually find that backfires in the end.

As Sam pointed out to me during my application process, though, this can be dangerous in a game where you're talking to people in real time.

For this reason, I'd like for us to have a list here that we can refer to if we have to make a false claim. Sam also said that for newbies like me, he would vet the role claims to warn in case it was something he said he'd never do in previous games. This will make it easier for him to find him.

If we end up having to claim one of the false roles listed in here, though, or a Citizen goes and his or her role ends up being too similar to one in here, we should revise the list and take it off, so there's a list of "safe" roles to claim at all time.

[Iris]

*find THEM, not him.

[Donald]

This is a great idea, but so far I have no idea what would warrant a fake claim for Spies 6. It will be a good idea to look back in past games to see the roles used in those before deciding on fake claims. I've only looked at Spies 5 so far, and most of the players appeared to not have any special role.

[Almathea]

great thread;

perhaps we should all come up with some by live chat tomorrow! and critique them, i sound so bossy lol its the organiser in me again

one we could do is go to this site;
www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roles

then go through old spies games and put a twist on it!

here are links to sam's style of writing; we MUST copy this style;
spies5.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=guile596&action=display&thread=356
spies3.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ann3550&action=display&thread=297

Maybe we could ALL act throughout the game as if we had a specific role?! omg radical idea but might work

or we could have 2 spies acting as if they have a role - knowledge based roles, then we have 5 more roles that would not force players to behave differently so that if we ever had to roleclaim we could easily pretend we had it all along - these kind of roles would be dormant ones like in the first link!

[Donald]

Ideally, that's what we should do throughout the whole game; play as though we had a specific role. For instance, I know a lot of people leave breadcrumbs about their role, I might breadcrumb I'm a cop, for instance, so that I can back up my claim in the future.

Just a straight cop is something that's risky to claim, though. Cause with only one group of bad guys, either you have to just call everybody town, get our own spies killed, or get caught after players lynch the first innocent you claim is a spy.



Also, a good plan I've done before is have two players ready to claim the same role. For instance, if Alma is getting a lot of heat from players, she might claim a particular role, and then I might counterclaim her role (don't know how likely multiple copies of a role are to be in this game). This could potentially confirm the player who counterclaimed, even though even the counterclaim was a lie.

There's a lot more involvement than just what I'm saying so far to pull that off, but it's something to consider.