Threatometer

[Almathea]

This ongoing thread keeps a record of who we believe is posing a threat to the spies.

It is different to the Citizen Database thread in that it contains our thoughts and conversations with players who we believe are catching on to spy plans or behaviour or nailing us in their suspect list!

[Iris]

Okay, Robert is my number one threat at the moment, as well as possibly Pete's.

[Almathea]

Robert speaks very cryptically, and has valuable information on Iris which he has not bespoke to me upon first meeting me - DANGER.

[Almathea]

Robert; eek

spies6Robert (20:05:09): There are what, 30 players? So i'd say 6-7 evils unless i'm badly balanciung here...
spies6Georgia (20:05:12): Then it wouldn't reaqlly be spies if the citizens were that way.
spies6Robert (20:05:14): in 2 days, that could be 1.

[Donald]

Hmm... he sounds like a very experienced and knowledgable player, and has that info on Iris. I think he's a high priority threat. I'll bet money on it that he'll use Iris's slip against her at some point and time.

[Donald]

Also, if he does bring up the chat with Iris against her, it might be possible, after Iris defends herself, to attack back with how vindictive and reaching he is for a lynch on an citizen who committed an honest mistake.

[Jason]

So far Robert, Rey, and Yvette seem to stand out as experienced players that know what they're doing.

[Almathea]

We need to look for threats within our teams.

Okay so Robert, Rey and Yvette? Seperate teams?

[Iris]

Robert AND Yvette are on my team.

[Jason]

Rey's on the same team as Pete, Ally, and I, but I don't think he'll be easy to pick off this early because he's active and seemingly shrewd; it might be suicide to try to push *too* hard.

[Jaya]

Hmm aren't i on that same team? There are 4 of us? And Rey is obnoxious enough that it wouldn't be too hard.

[Donald]

I wouldn't be surprised for our teams to go through at least two exiles, though I don't know if that'll be the case or not. If we do go to two exiles though, he could be more easily picked off at the second exile, when there are fewer cits you need to convert to your side.

And remember, we can always kill him at night .

[Jaya]

The more I see of Rey, the more harmless he seems. A lot of bark, but not much bite.

[Pete]

Does anyone know who Rey suspects? If its not one of us, we should so use him....

[Jason]

May 17, 2009 23:55:07 GMT -5 Jaya said:

Hmm aren't i on that same team? There are 4 of us? And Rey is obnoxious enough that it wouldn't be too hard.

Oh wow you are, I stopped counting at 3 people I didn't think we'd have that many spies on one team... In that case we can get rid of basically whoever we want. That's nice to know.

[Iris]

Amelia, if you read this, Mei Yun is suspicious of you. You're not the only one, she called out 4 people, and the suspicion is for being a lurker.

[Amelia]

Thanks for the heads up. Where is the "main" topic where everyone just rants and stuff?

[Almathea]

Robert must die:

spies6Robert (23:00:46): I still feel you are misrepresenting her, trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
spies6Robert (23:01:06): Thankfully it means I now have a suspect in all three teams

this is because i asked yvette was she trying to justify her leadership!

[Almathea]

My style will be asking random direct questions!

So if Robert pursues me i will blast him with that; and with this conversation:

spies6almathea (23:02:33): hey!
spies6almathea (23:02:48): you there?
spies6almathea (23:04:56): why are you so cryptic?
spies6almathea (23:05:07): sorry! im just trynna get a vibe for the players!
spies6almathea (23:05:15): and all i get from you is cryptic
spies6Robert (23:05:22): im not cryptic... im just talking to a few people
spies6almathea (23:05:59): he he!
spies6almathea (23:06:03): you are cryptic
spies6almathea (23:06:09): i like the way you talk

[Jason]

spies6Jenya (1:55:05 PM): I just talked with Ellis and Paris for a half hour
spies6Jenya (1:55:19 PM): They seem to be genuinely interested in finding spies I think.
spies6Jenya (1:55:45 PM): They want to vote either Almathea or Jaya I think, most likely Almathea."


This could be bad...

[Almathea]

FUCK FUCK FUCK, wtf paris and ellis?

[Jason]

Yeah and Ellis is invisible on AIM while talking about that...

[Donald]

That's a big thing you can call Ellis out on.

Apparently the first night, before alignments were revealed, I was set to invisible. My case, which was in all honesty, was that I had my home AIM set to invisible just to log chats from the chat room. I was invisible so I wouldn't be spoken to when I wasn't there. I've received a lot of heat and suspicion from it, and continue to still.

It's suspicious to be logged on invisible because it lets her talk to her fellow spies and plot without having to talk to any of the citizens.

[Jason]

Ellis is going down... And weirdly enough JENYA is going to do the work for me. She and I formed a big case on Ellis... I kind of got her started and she ran to town with it.

Donald I have a question for you.... Ellis is online invisible right now talking to Paris, and I think that'd be another point to nail him to the Exile tree, but, since you've taken some heat for the same thing would you prefer us not use that tactic or do you think it'd help you if he's called out and exiled for chatting while invisible only to turn up as a Citizen?

[Amelia]

I'm trying to get a feel for who are the big threats on Donald's and my team, but no one is really jumping out at me.

I think William is probably dangerous. Mei Yun is getting some suspicion, so she'd be good to keep around, especially because she thinks I'm a Cit at the moment.

I think Donald and I will have to call dibs on the Spies who are suspicious of one another as we've sort of started that already in our team.

I think our team is really probably the least threatening from what I've heard here. We should concentrate on Iris's team since she's all alone on it, but I agree with staying away form those with whom she's cultivated a secret alliance.

[Donald]

Jason, go ahead and use the invisible argument tactic against here. I believe it will help in getting her lynched, and you bring up a good point that it could help me when people realize another citizen used invisibility in the chat. Some players I've talked to think there is no reason to suspect me for having been invisible, but it helps that I wasn't using it to talk privately with certain players.

[Jason]

@ Pete, just a heads up


spies6Jenya (5:31:34 PM): Oh. We need to talk about Pete.
spies6Jenya (5:31:43 PM): He has been very lurky.
spies6Tiberius (5:32:05 PM): yeah pete has always made me 0-0
spies6ellis (5:32:07 PM): Well apart from random lurkery
spies6ellis (5:32:10 PM): what about Pete?
spies6Jenya (5:32:22 PM): If there is a spy just watching all this and cackling, it is possibly Pete.
spies6Jenya (5:32:30 PM): Because he really hasnt had to lift a finger.
spies6jason (5:32:34 PM): I can see that
spies6ellis (5:32:42 PM): I don't know, he also seems confused
spies6jason (5:32:44 PM): But... I don't see any reason to think he's a spy for it really
spies6ellis (5:32:49 PM): although I'm not by any means convinced either way about him
spies6Jenya (5:32:51 PM): We need to make him talk more I guess.
spies6ellis (5:33:09 PM): I've talked to him now
spies6ellis (5:33:11 PM): and I quite like him

[Rey]

May 17, 2009 18:17:06 GMT -5 Jason said:

So far Robert, Rey, and Yvette seem to stand out as experienced players that know what they're doing.

[Ellis]

May 20, 2009 14:03:03 GMT -5 Jason said:

Ellis is going down... And weirdly enough JENYA is going to do the work for me. She and I formed a big case on Ellis... I kind of got her started and she ran to town with it.

Haha, you FAIL.

Weirdly, Iris made a small slip that I picked up on in the opening chat (it's in my confessional). It wasn't conclusive by any means, and in the excitement later on between Faith and Iris, I forgot about it - I'm kicking myself for that! - and so never got to use it. It was a question that she asked about the scum, something about "did they know that the citizens didn't know that alignments were given out". It just seemed so staged. Could anybody genuinely be so naive as to assume that the spies hadn't been told that nobody else had their alignments? If that were the case the entire spy group could've given themselves away before the game even started...