Post by Levi on Jul 6, 2009 15:48:02 GMT -5
spies6levi (1:33:24 PM): Yo
spies6Kirsten (1:33:38 PM): hi
spies6levi (1:33:46 PM): Game = Back On
spies6Kirsten (1:34:00 PM): as though this game were Donkey Kong
spies6levi (1:34:13 PM): Oh my I hate that game
spies6levi (1:34:25 PM): I can never win it, no matter how many times I try
spies6levi (1:34:27 PM):
spies6levi (1:35:26 PM): I will vote for Amelia, no matter what, no amount of "logic" will convince this Tiberius otherwise GODAMNIT.
spies6levi (1:35:37 PM): $5 bucks says he doesn't vote Amelia this round
spies6Kirsten (1:36:45 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (1:37:14 PM): Tiberius needs to get on AIM
spies6Kirsten (1:37:27 PM): I need to ask him a question without him being able to have time to think about the answer
spies6levi (1:37:38 PM): Ooooh
spies6levi (1:37:43 PM): A plot
spies6Kirsten (1:37:43 PM): the glory of AIM
spies6levi (1:42:12 PM): Hey
spies6levi (1:42:16 PM): When is Imprisonment?
spies6Kirsten (1:43:14 PM): you and Boris planning it out?
spies6Kirsten (1:43:24 PM): both of you asked me that at roughly the same time
spies6levi (1:43:31 PM): No, we already sent in who it's gonna be
spies6Kirsten (1:43:33 PM): I'm on to your spy-like ways
spies6levi (1:43:35 PM): We just like to read the stories
spies6levi (1:43:39 PM): And LOL at the timin
spies6levi (1:43:39 PM): g
spies6Kirsten (1:43:40 PM): Monday night, G
spies6Kirsten (1:43:44 PM): monday night
spies6levi (1:43:55 PM): Wow, I thought it was today sometime
spies6levi (1:43:56 PM): i feel dumb
spies6levi (1:44:09 PM): Why do me and Boris do everything the same?
spies6Kirsten (1:44:52 PM): because you're spies who really love synchronized "spying"
spies6levi (1:45:10 PM): *opens up chatbox with Boris(
spies6levi (1:46:00 PM): So, I've still got those player analysis posts to finish in my confessional
spies6levi (1:46:18 PM): But I'm not sure how to do it
spies6Kirsten (1:47:47 PM): by typing a great many words
spies6levi (1:48:59 PM): But I need to know which words to type
spies6levi (1:49:04 PM): Like the first post is Pete
spies6levi (1:49:11 PM): No one knows anything about Pete!
spies6Kirsten (1:51:56 PM): voted Almathea and Jaya
spies6levi (1:52:04 PM): I have the voting records for everyone
spies6Kirsten (1:52:06 PM): go off of his voting records and his reasons
spies6levi (1:52:29 PM): *gets inspiration*
spies6levi (1:54:16 PM): oh wow
spies6levi (1:54:18 PM): What on earth
spies6levi (1:54:23 PM): Happened to Almathea's avvie?
spies6levi (1:54:37 PM): spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=almathea
spies6Kirsten (1:55:39 PM): dead players changing it after they died
spies6Kirsten (1:55:51 PM): faith + rey did the same I believe
spies6levi (1:56:02 PM): I knew Faith and Rey did it
spies6levi (1:56:06 PM): I just didn't know alma did it
spies6levi (1:56:14 PM): Shows how much I interacted with her
spies6Kirsten (1:57:52 PM): quite a lot in spy HQ, but not at all in the public realm?
spies6levi (1:58:23 PM): Exactly
spies6levi (1:58:39 PM): I mean, since Sam tried to do that Spy Separation twist again
spies6levi (1:58:54 PM): I knew Alma from the start, but I didn't know Jaya until it was too late
spies6levi (1:58:55 PM):
spies6Kirsten (1:59:25 PM): Do you know why Jenya minus voted Mei Yun?
spies6Kirsten (1:59:45 PM): Do you know why Jason minus voted Mirela?
spies6levi (1:59:53 PM): No and No
spies6levi (2:00:09 PM): I'll do reasons for voting next
spies6levi (2:06:00 PM): Here we go
spies6levi (2:06:10 PM): Pete's got a player list for the first Exile
spies6levi (2:06:14 PM): OMG
spies6levi (2:06:21 PM): He did a Spy scale thing too
spies6Kirsten (2:06:37 PM): must have been the predetermined plan from spy HQ
spies6levi (2:07:42 PM): Lol look at this
spies6levi (2:07:45 PM): spies6rey (2:46:29 PM): what alignment would you rather have?
spies6Paris (2:46:48 PM): something difficult to play with
spies6Paris (2:46:54 PM): spy is tough and a challenge
spies6Kirsten (2:08:13 PM): sounds...traitorous
spies6levi (2:08:31 PM): Oh wow
spies6levi (2:08:37 PM): Look at Rey's analysis of himself
spies6levi (2:08:40 PM): This player is definitely a citizen. No need to explain.
He acts like everyone's little brother.
Annoying at times, helpful at others times.
Spies love making up shitty arguments in order to point suspicion on him,
but i think that he can hold his own against those nasty scum.
spies6Kirsten (2:09:12 PM): the little brother part
spies6Kirsten (2:09:15 PM): is true
spies6levi (2:10:53 PM): I know!
spies6levi (2:11:00 PM): I will interview players on their voting reasons!
spies6levi (2:11:27 PM): Whenever I catch them online
spies6levi (2:11:37 PM): It's genius!
spies6Kirsten (2:12:23 PM): sounds like an awful plan
spies6levi (2:12:32 PM): Awwwwwww
spies6Kirsten (2:12:34 PM): why would you ever ask people questions about why they voted the way they did
spies6Kirsten (2:12:41 PM): sounds destined for failure
spies6levi (2:12:41 PM): Oh it's that biting sarcasm
spies6Kirsten (2:12:59 PM): always active
spies6Kirsten (2:13:01 PM): always biting
spies6levi (2:13:16 PM): Kirsten
spies6levi (2:13:40 PM): Why did you vote for Levi in Exile #1, as opposed to the two main cases for your team (Mei Yun and Roxy)?
spies6Kirsten (2:14:19 PM): Because I thought Roxy was a citizen, and although I wasn't sold on Mei Yun, she wasn't someone I wanted out episode 1
spies6levi (2:14:34 PM): So you didn't like Roxy or Mei as an Exile
spies6levi (2:14:38 PM): But why Levi?
spies6levi (2:14:53 PM): There were plenty of other players on that team, some of whom had barely contributed anything
spies6Kirsten (2:15:26 PM): 4 suspects, couldn't decide between them
spies6Kirsten (2:15:33 PM): was the main reason
spies6Kirsten (2:15:42 PM): with a side helping of "ignored my defenses"
spies6levi (2:16:10 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:16:27 PM): Why did you + Gretchen at Exile 2?
spies6Kirsten (2:16:40 PM): She ate my cookies
spies6levi (2:16:48 PM): Duly noted
spies6levi (2:16:52 PM): Any other reasons?
spies6Kirsten (2:17:01 PM): She wanted to exile Roxy again, for information, but didn't seem to really care or push reasons why she believed Roxy to actually be a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:17:21 PM): it was more of a "here's a reason why we should exile her even if she's a cit, so I'm not going to bother to care whether or not she's a spy"
spies6Kirsten (2:18:06 PM): example: There was a therad in our workshop on Roxy, which Gretchen did not post in
spies6Kirsten (2:18:17 PM): despite pushing Roxy as a spy
spies6levi (2:18:43 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:18:57 PM): Why did you - Ed at the same Exile?
spies6levi (2:19:18 PM): Also, please do not tell anyone that I am conducting this investigation
spies6Kirsten (2:19:32 PM): I've told all my friends already
spies6Kirsten (2:19:43 PM): it's spread through the burg like wildfire
spies6Kirsten (2:19:57 PM): (I won't tell anyone)
spies6Kirsten (2:20:14 PM): As for Ed, Ariel planned to vote for him, and others had expressed suspicions of Ed, and I thought he was a citizen
spies6Kirsten (2:20:20 PM): so I negged him
spies6Kirsten (2:20:39 PM): I considered negative voting Georgia as well, who I considered citizen, but I convinced Donald to do that instead
spies6levi (2:20:44 PM): So you admit to having had information concerning Ed that you will not share at the present time?
spies6levi (2:21:00 PM): And where did you convince Donald to do this at?
spies6levi (2:21:05 PM): Burg? AIM? Spy HQ?
spies6Kirsten (2:21:37 PM): no, I didn't have information on Ed at that point
spies6Kirsten (2:21:42 PM): I just thought he was a citizen
spies6Kirsten (2:21:57 PM): I convinced Donald in an AIM chat, the same chat I later used to spearhead my suspicion of him
spies6levi (2:22:06 PM): That was a joke, btw
spies6Kirsten (2:22:16 PM): I did not laugh, Levi
spies6Kirsten (2:22:18 PM):
spies6Kirsten (2:22:26 PM): sorry, I thought that was super serious. My bad!
spies6levi (2:22:47 PM): During Exile #3, you had two very high-profile cases in the Burg
spies6Kirsten (2:22:53 PM): I did
spies6levi (2:22:53 PM): One on myself, the other on Donald
spies6Kirsten (2:22:57 PM): correct
spies6levi (2:23:02 PM): What made you vote myself over Donald?
spies6Kirsten (2:23:09 PM): two reasons
spies6Kirsten (2:23:25 PM): The first is your accumulated self-votes making me believe you were going to potentially get more votes than Donald
spies6Kirsten (2:23:36 PM): I wanted one of my suspects gone, either you or Donald over Yvette
spies6Kirsten (2:23:53 PM): The 2nd is that one of Donald's posts gave me the opinion that I was perhaps going down the wrong trail with him
spies6Kirsten (2:24:16 PM): he expressed that he was getting too heated to defend himself properly, which immediately struck me as a "frustrated citizen" response
spies6levi (2:25:14 PM): I'm not doing this investigation properly
spies6levi (2:25:17 PM): I have to backtrack slightly
spies6levi (2:25:27 PM): At Exile #2, as you know, you're team Exiled a Spy, Jaya
spies6levi (2:25:31 PM): Why did you not vote her?
spies6levi (2:26:06 PM): (Sorry that this is tedious, but I want to be thorough)
spies6Kirsten (2:26:11 PM): It's fine
spies6Kirsten (2:26:18 PM): Episode 2 I was gone most of the episode
spies6Kirsten (2:26:24 PM): almost the entire episode actually
spies6Kirsten (2:26:32 PM): I had friends come to visit that weekend, and put spies on the backburner
spies6Kirsten (2:26:50 PM): I decided my exile vote the night before exile based solely on what I saw in the burg
spies6Kirsten (2:27:10 PM): From jaya, I had basically two things I had seen from her
spies6Kirsten (2:27:20 PM): the first was her not voting Almathea despite the rest of her team doing so
spies6Kirsten (2:27:31 PM): the 2nd was a general feeling that she was just clueless and didn't know what was going on
spies6Kirsten (2:27:53 PM): cluelessness isn't really a spy trait, because spies have more information than citizens do
spies6Kirsten (2:28:22 PM): So anyway, I had her at "leaning citizen" on my list
spies6levi (2:28:42 PM): Alright
spies6Kirsten (2:28:43 PM): I hadn't seen much from her, and what I had seen wasn't enough for me to want to exile her
spies6levi (2:28:59 PM): At Exile #3, the Donald and Levi cases were not the only cases on the table
spies6levi (2:29:08 PM): Jason posted a case on Yvette
spies6levi (2:29:22 PM): Not only did you not vote Yvette, but you defended her quite fiercely
spies6levi (2:29:31 PM): What made you believe that she was a citizen so strongly?
spies6Kirsten (2:30:10 PM): For the reasons I defended her
spies6Kirsten (2:30:17 PM): Her actions did not make sense from a spy perspective
spies6Kirsten (2:30:54 PM): For example: If Yvette was a spy, and created a plan to save Robert from imprisonment, and as a result got Robert on her side, why would she imprison him then?
spies6Kirsten (2:31:09 PM): She just created a huge citizen ally, and then she throws him away?
spies6Kirsten (2:31:12 PM): It didn't make sense
spies6Kirsten (2:31:35 PM): and not only that, but in throwing him away brought a lot of suspicion upon herself based on the plan?
spies6levi (2:31:44 PM): Alright, I get the general idea
spies6levi (2:32:02 PM): I have another question, off the record
spies6levi (2:32:08 PM): Why haven't you been Imprisoned yet?
spies6Kirsten (2:32:19 PM): A question I've asked myself a lot
spies6Kirsten (2:32:32 PM): I think there are two reasons
spies6Kirsten (2:32:44 PM): one is that there were other targets who were better
spies6Kirsten (2:32:55 PM): (no longer applies, now that William and...Oswald??? wer eimprisoned)
spies6Kirsten (2:33:08 PM): and the 2nd is that I must be horribly wrong in my suspicions
spies6levi (2:33:18 PM): We'll get to your suspicions in a bit
spies6levi (2:33:21 PM): Back on the record
spies6levi (2:33:36 PM): Exile #4
spies6levi (2:33:43 PM): Why the sudden change of heart?
spies6levi (2:33:53 PM): Why vote Donald when you had been voting Levi?
spies6Kirsten (2:34:04 PM): Well, I grilled poor Levi in chat like 19 times
spies6levi (2:34:17 PM): (I can verify)
spies6Kirsten (2:34:32 PM): and based on that plus a "gut read" you can say, I decided that I no longer thought he was a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:35:06 PM): one reason was the "why would Levi imprison Mei Yun if they trusted each other" reason that was similar to the why would Yvette imprison Robert reason
spies6levi (2:35:08 PM): I just quoted that verbatim
spies6Kirsten (2:35:29 PM): oh?
spies6levi (2:35:39 PM): The gut read statement
spies6levi (2:35:41 PM): Lol
spies6levi (2:35:54 PM): I feel like a reporter
spies6Kirsten (2:35:57 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:36:06 PM): do you have a pencil behind the ear
spies6Kirsten (2:36:12 PM): notebook in hand
spies6levi (2:36:13 PM): brb
spies6levi (2:36:20 PM): Alright now I do
spies6Kirsten (2:36:34 PM): good
spies6levi (2:36:43 PM): Exile #5
spies6levi (2:36:46 PM): You voted Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:36:48 PM): I did
spies6levi (2:37:02 PM): During this Exile, one could say that there were no clear cases
spies6levi (2:37:09 PM): All kinds of people received votes
spies6Kirsten (2:37:13 PM): right
spies6levi (2:37:20 PM): Why did you single out Iris over all the others?
spies6Kirsten (2:37:38 PM): It was basically a process of elimination thing, to be honest
spies6Kirsten (2:37:50 PM): My top 4 suspects going into the exile were William, Faith, Ed, Ariel
spies6Kirsten (2:37:57 PM): exile = episode
spies6levi (2:38:04 PM): Pretty much
spies6Kirsten (2:38:15 PM): I chatted a lot with Faith, and determined that she was probably a citizen
spies6Kirsten (2:38:19 PM): I felt fairly confident about that
spies6Kirsten (2:38:27 PM): Ed got imprisoned so...
spies6Kirsten (2:38:43 PM): Tiberius spilled that William had a role
spies6Kirsten (2:38:58 PM): and I asked william about it, and he gave me kind of sparse details on it
spies6Kirsten (2:39:22 PM): I was iffy on William...but kind of decided to let him go for an episode so i could talk more with him about it later
spies6Kirsten (2:39:38 PM): that left Ariel, which I had absolutely no chance of rallying an exile on, so I dropped to my 5th suspect, Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:40:25 PM): The main point against Iris was her confessional post (Irate Iris)
spies6Kirsten (2:40:51 PM): she stated that she would have voted for Donald, yet never expressed any suspicion at Donald prior to being jailed...instead she had been pressuring Georgia
spies6levi (2:41:43 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:41:51 PM): You inadvertently answered the second question
spies6levi (2:42:07 PM): So we'll move on to Forum Mafia week
spies6levi (2:42:31 PM): I know this is obvious
spies6levi (2:42:34 PM): But in your own words
spies6levi (2:42:37 PM): Why did you vote Iris?
spies6levi (2:43:46 PM): There's no need to confer with your Spy buddies, its a simple question
spies6Kirsten (2:44:06 PM): Sorry, was posting something in a different game
spies6levi (2:44:13 PM): It's all right
spies6Kirsten (2:44:27 PM): She lied about her role...there was no way she was telling the truth, thus she was a spy
spies6levi (2:44:46 PM): Alright, that's good lol
spies6Kirsten (2:44:54 PM): Even if she was actually telling the truth about having to lie about her role, she then proceeded to tell the truth later, completely invalidating it
spies6Kirsten (2:45:11 PM): but yeah...I wrote like a 30,000 character post on this
spies6levi (2:45:21 PM): The one that made me completely lol
spies6Kirsten (2:45:23 PM): maybe not that many, but it was huge
spies6Kirsten (2:45:29 PM): hehe, yes
spies6levi (2:45:35 PM): Exile #7
spies6levi (2:45:44 PM): Amelia verified Iris's role
spies6levi (2:45:47 PM): Iris was a Spy
spies6levi (2:45:53 PM): The logical choice would be to vote Amelia
spies6levi (2:46:03 PM): But no, somehow within the mere hours before the Exile
spies6levi (2:46:12 PM): A plot emerges, and Thor, Citizen, goes home
spies6Kirsten (2:46:29 PM): The "plot" to exile Thor came long before the hours before exile
spies6levi (2:46:35 PM): You were one of the ones voting Thor
spies6levi (2:46:37 PM): Explain?
spies6Kirsten (2:46:38 PM): I pushed him as a spy all week
spies6Kirsten (2:46:42 PM): as did Mirela
spies6levi (2:46:47 PM): (I'm going for the dramatic here)
spies6Kirsten (2:47:37 PM): Thor. I thought he was a spy based on a few factors. One was him sitting on Faith for like 19 episodes and not doing much to make it happen. Another was that I believed his chats with Iris were fake
spies6Kirsten (2:48:11 PM): he posted them really for no real reason. It looked like a play made strictly for the purpose of trying to confirm himself
spies6Kirsten (2:48:53 PM): Add into that his stance on Iris from episode 6...which was fishy + him completely changing his mind on you from citizen to spy over 1 episode
spies6Kirsten (2:49:09 PM): He looked like a spy who was trying to change gears after half of his team had died
spies6levi (2:50:50 PM): And finally
spies6levi (2:50:55 PM): Well, not finally
spies6levi (2:51:00 PM): But the final voting record question
spies6levi (2:51:01 PM): Rey
spies6levi (2:51:14 PM): Explain plz
spies6Kirsten (2:52:40 PM): *blushes* where to begin with Reymond
spies6Kirsten (2:53:15 PM): Probably the most definitive piece of evidence in my mind was the "lie" surrounding him catching Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:53:48 PM): There was someone in the spies6 chat room called "Spies Viewer"
spies6Kirsten (2:54:01 PM): who happened to leave the hcat at the same time that Rey went offline (according to Tiberius)
spies6Kirsten (2:54:12 PM): suggesting that spies viewer was, in fact, Rey
spies6Kirsten (2:54:59 PM): my belief in that was strengthened when he blocked me for saying "how regularly do you view spies" but when Jenya asked him if he was in spies6 chat on an alias in 14 seconds he immediately jumped to the conclusion "Oh, is that was Kirsten was talking about"
spies6Kirsten (2:55:15 PM): I don't see how he could have connected those dots in 14 seconds unless he was guilty as charged
spies6levi (2:55:24 PM): Btw
spies6levi (2:55:33 PM): I am now calling this incident
spies6levi (2:55:35 PM): Viewergate
spies6Kirsten (2:55:38 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:55:43 PM):
spies6levi (2:55:46 PM): Any other reasons?
spies6Kirsten (2:56:00 PM): anyway, meanwhile he was grilling Iris on her role, which led to her "lie"
spies6Kirsten (2:56:31 PM): and he was really secretive about the whole ordeal, leading me to believe that his secrecy in combination with being on an alias in chat meant Rey = spy who was planning the best way to fake-chat with IRis
spies6Kirsten (2:56:50 PM): As for other reasons, I agreed with the majority of what Jenya said in her thread
spies6Kirsten (2:57:02 PM): he changed his mind from spy to citizen on people in teh same day, often for no reason
spies6levi (2:58:44 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:58:52 PM): We are finally done with voting record related questions
spies6levi (2:59:00 PM): I have one more question for you
spies6Kirsten (2:59:03 PM): Part 1/23 complete
spies6levi (2:59:13 PM): Only one more
spies6levi (2:59:19 PM): There are three Spies remaining in the game
spies6Kirsten (2:59:22 PM): yep
spies6levi (2:59:28 PM): Give me their names, to the best of your ability
spies6levi (2:59:36 PM): Reasoning would be appreciated
spies6Kirsten (3:00:19 PM): That's a tough question
spies6Kirsten (3:00:30 PM): I will say that I "thought" I knew the last 3 were Khaled, Gretchen, Rey
spies6Kirsten (3:00:38 PM): but that theory has been proven false
spies6Kirsten (3:01:09 PM): Gretchen/Khaled/Boris
spies6levi (3:01:17 PM): Alright
spies6levi (3:01:22 PM): Why Gretchen?
spies6Kirsten (3:01:43 PM): Khaled can be substitued for Ariel...Boris for Jason, perhaps
spies6Kirsten (3:02:33 PM): Gretchen because she has done practically no spy hunting at all this game + she voted William episode 3 and was planning on voting him episode 4 despite having said that she felt William was cleared based on Jaya earlier in episode 3
spies6Kirsten (3:02:44 PM): + the reason I voted her in episode 2
spies6Kirsten (3:03:01 PM): with a "shrug" toward her recent actions
spies6Kirsten (3:03:21 PM): where she's basically dropped the jolly fat gig and defended Rey adamantly as a citizen
spies6Kirsten (3:04:21 PM): and a couple more "gut-like" reasons, such as me thinking she's a decent mafia player who is hiding behind a character and a few places where she's seemed "fake"
spies6levi (3:04:44 PM): Alright
spies6levi (3:04:46 PM): Why Khaled?
spies6Kirsten (3:05:01 PM): Underachiever
spies6Kirsten (3:05:12 PM): He had more stances in episode 2 than he does not
spies6Kirsten (3:05:14 PM): now
spies6Kirsten (3:05:48 PM): based on his claimed style of play, he should have a large amount of data right now and should be narrowing down the spies, yet last episode when I asked him who he was suspicious of he gave me a brush-aside answer of "everyone but Jenya"
spies6Kirsten (3:06:15 PM): He also doesn't seem to be actively making any effort to find spies
spies6Kirsten (3:06:29 PM): Does he not care? Is he a spy?
spies6levi (3:06:59 PM): And finally
spies6levi (3:07:01 PM): Why Boris?
spies6Kirsten (3:07:26 PM): Because he's Russian, and I hate Russians
spies6levi (3:07:46 PM): Duly noted
spies6Kirsten (3:07:57 PM): Boris is similar to Khaled. He's a smart player with the capability to be useful, but simply is not
spies6Kirsten (3:08:32 PM): also, he frequently admits that he's a spy or agrees that he's a spy, or whatever, which is starting to make me suspect him of just using it as a cover (Gretchen, same way)
spies6levi (3:09:14 PM): Alright
spies6levi (3:09:24 PM): Please do not discuss your answers with any other players
spies6levi (3:09:35 PM): I am really hoping to get everyone interviewed
spies6levi (3:09:55 PM): And hopefully get these posted Tuesday night (I'm optimistic)
spies6Kirsten (3:11:32 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (3:11:35 PM): I won't
spies6Kirsten (3:11:40 PM): I'll be hush-hush
spies6levi (3:11:59 PM): Now
spies6levi (3:12:01 PM): I need some more people
spies6levi (3:12:03 PM): To get online
spies6Kirsten (3:12:10 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (3:12:16 PM): that'll be the hard part
spies6levi (3:12:23 PM): I've got a little less than two hours before I have to leave for a cookout
spies6levi (3:12:35 PM): I should be able to get at least one more done
spies6Kirsten (3:12:46 PM): assuming someone logs on, yep
spies6levi (3:12:55 PM): Or Boris goes off of idle
spies6levi (3:13:08 PM): WTF
spies6levi (3:13:13 PM): Tiberius just posted in the Burg
spies6levi (3:13:31 PM): And he's not on AIM
spies6levi (3:13:57 PM): Well, nvm on Boris
spies6Kirsten (3:15:07 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (1:33:38 PM): hi
spies6levi (1:33:46 PM): Game = Back On
spies6Kirsten (1:34:00 PM): as though this game were Donkey Kong
spies6levi (1:34:13 PM): Oh my I hate that game
spies6levi (1:34:25 PM): I can never win it, no matter how many times I try
spies6levi (1:34:27 PM):
spies6levi (1:35:26 PM): I will vote for Amelia, no matter what, no amount of "logic" will convince this Tiberius otherwise GODAMNIT.
spies6levi (1:35:37 PM): $5 bucks says he doesn't vote Amelia this round
spies6Kirsten (1:36:45 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (1:37:14 PM): Tiberius needs to get on AIM
spies6Kirsten (1:37:27 PM): I need to ask him a question without him being able to have time to think about the answer
spies6levi (1:37:38 PM): Ooooh
spies6levi (1:37:43 PM): A plot
spies6Kirsten (1:37:43 PM): the glory of AIM
spies6levi (1:42:12 PM): Hey
spies6levi (1:42:16 PM): When is Imprisonment?
spies6Kirsten (1:43:14 PM): you and Boris planning it out?
spies6Kirsten (1:43:24 PM): both of you asked me that at roughly the same time
spies6levi (1:43:31 PM): No, we already sent in who it's gonna be
spies6Kirsten (1:43:33 PM): I'm on to your spy-like ways
spies6levi (1:43:35 PM): We just like to read the stories
spies6levi (1:43:39 PM): And LOL at the timin
spies6levi (1:43:39 PM): g
spies6Kirsten (1:43:40 PM): Monday night, G
spies6Kirsten (1:43:44 PM): monday night
spies6levi (1:43:55 PM): Wow, I thought it was today sometime
spies6levi (1:43:56 PM): i feel dumb
spies6levi (1:44:09 PM): Why do me and Boris do everything the same?
spies6Kirsten (1:44:52 PM): because you're spies who really love synchronized "spying"
spies6levi (1:45:10 PM): *opens up chatbox with Boris(
spies6levi (1:46:00 PM): So, I've still got those player analysis posts to finish in my confessional
spies6levi (1:46:18 PM): But I'm not sure how to do it
spies6Kirsten (1:47:47 PM): by typing a great many words
spies6levi (1:48:59 PM): But I need to know which words to type
spies6levi (1:49:04 PM): Like the first post is Pete
spies6levi (1:49:11 PM): No one knows anything about Pete!
spies6Kirsten (1:51:56 PM): voted Almathea and Jaya
spies6levi (1:52:04 PM): I have the voting records for everyone
spies6Kirsten (1:52:06 PM): go off of his voting records and his reasons
spies6levi (1:52:29 PM): *gets inspiration*
spies6levi (1:54:16 PM): oh wow
spies6levi (1:54:18 PM): What on earth
spies6levi (1:54:23 PM): Happened to Almathea's avvie?
spies6levi (1:54:37 PM): spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=almathea
spies6Kirsten (1:55:39 PM): dead players changing it after they died
spies6Kirsten (1:55:51 PM): faith + rey did the same I believe
spies6levi (1:56:02 PM): I knew Faith and Rey did it
spies6levi (1:56:06 PM): I just didn't know alma did it
spies6levi (1:56:14 PM): Shows how much I interacted with her
spies6Kirsten (1:57:52 PM): quite a lot in spy HQ, but not at all in the public realm?
spies6levi (1:58:23 PM): Exactly
spies6levi (1:58:39 PM): I mean, since Sam tried to do that Spy Separation twist again
spies6levi (1:58:54 PM): I knew Alma from the start, but I didn't know Jaya until it was too late
spies6levi (1:58:55 PM):
spies6Kirsten (1:59:25 PM): Do you know why Jenya minus voted Mei Yun?
spies6Kirsten (1:59:45 PM): Do you know why Jason minus voted Mirela?
spies6levi (1:59:53 PM): No and No
spies6levi (2:00:09 PM): I'll do reasons for voting next
spies6levi (2:06:00 PM): Here we go
spies6levi (2:06:10 PM): Pete's got a player list for the first Exile
spies6levi (2:06:14 PM): OMG
spies6levi (2:06:21 PM): He did a Spy scale thing too
spies6Kirsten (2:06:37 PM): must have been the predetermined plan from spy HQ
spies6levi (2:07:42 PM): Lol look at this
spies6levi (2:07:45 PM): spies6rey (2:46:29 PM): what alignment would you rather have?
spies6Paris (2:46:48 PM): something difficult to play with
spies6Paris (2:46:54 PM): spy is tough and a challenge
spies6Kirsten (2:08:13 PM): sounds...traitorous
spies6levi (2:08:31 PM): Oh wow
spies6levi (2:08:37 PM): Look at Rey's analysis of himself
spies6levi (2:08:40 PM): This player is definitely a citizen. No need to explain.
He acts like everyone's little brother.
Annoying at times, helpful at others times.
Spies love making up shitty arguments in order to point suspicion on him,
but i think that he can hold his own against those nasty scum.
spies6Kirsten (2:09:12 PM): the little brother part
spies6Kirsten (2:09:15 PM): is true
spies6levi (2:10:53 PM): I know!
spies6levi (2:11:00 PM): I will interview players on their voting reasons!
spies6levi (2:11:27 PM): Whenever I catch them online
spies6levi (2:11:37 PM): It's genius!
spies6Kirsten (2:12:23 PM): sounds like an awful plan
spies6levi (2:12:32 PM): Awwwwwww
spies6Kirsten (2:12:34 PM): why would you ever ask people questions about why they voted the way they did
spies6Kirsten (2:12:41 PM): sounds destined for failure
spies6levi (2:12:41 PM): Oh it's that biting sarcasm
spies6Kirsten (2:12:59 PM): always active
spies6Kirsten (2:13:01 PM): always biting
spies6levi (2:13:16 PM): Kirsten
spies6levi (2:13:40 PM): Why did you vote for Levi in Exile #1, as opposed to the two main cases for your team (Mei Yun and Roxy)?
spies6Kirsten (2:14:19 PM): Because I thought Roxy was a citizen, and although I wasn't sold on Mei Yun, she wasn't someone I wanted out episode 1
spies6levi (2:14:34 PM): So you didn't like Roxy or Mei as an Exile
spies6levi (2:14:38 PM): But why Levi?
spies6levi (2:14:53 PM): There were plenty of other players on that team, some of whom had barely contributed anything
spies6Kirsten (2:15:26 PM): 4 suspects, couldn't decide between them
spies6Kirsten (2:15:33 PM): was the main reason
spies6Kirsten (2:15:42 PM): with a side helping of "ignored my defenses"
spies6levi (2:16:10 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:16:27 PM): Why did you + Gretchen at Exile 2?
spies6Kirsten (2:16:40 PM): She ate my cookies
spies6levi (2:16:48 PM): Duly noted
spies6levi (2:16:52 PM): Any other reasons?
spies6Kirsten (2:17:01 PM): She wanted to exile Roxy again, for information, but didn't seem to really care or push reasons why she believed Roxy to actually be a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:17:21 PM): it was more of a "here's a reason why we should exile her even if she's a cit, so I'm not going to bother to care whether or not she's a spy"
spies6Kirsten (2:18:06 PM): example: There was a therad in our workshop on Roxy, which Gretchen did not post in
spies6Kirsten (2:18:17 PM): despite pushing Roxy as a spy
spies6levi (2:18:43 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:18:57 PM): Why did you - Ed at the same Exile?
spies6levi (2:19:18 PM): Also, please do not tell anyone that I am conducting this investigation
spies6Kirsten (2:19:32 PM): I've told all my friends already
spies6Kirsten (2:19:43 PM): it's spread through the burg like wildfire
spies6Kirsten (2:19:57 PM): (I won't tell anyone)
spies6Kirsten (2:20:14 PM): As for Ed, Ariel planned to vote for him, and others had expressed suspicions of Ed, and I thought he was a citizen
spies6Kirsten (2:20:20 PM): so I negged him
spies6Kirsten (2:20:39 PM): I considered negative voting Georgia as well, who I considered citizen, but I convinced Donald to do that instead
spies6levi (2:20:44 PM): So you admit to having had information concerning Ed that you will not share at the present time?
spies6levi (2:21:00 PM): And where did you convince Donald to do this at?
spies6levi (2:21:05 PM): Burg? AIM? Spy HQ?
spies6Kirsten (2:21:37 PM): no, I didn't have information on Ed at that point
spies6Kirsten (2:21:42 PM): I just thought he was a citizen
spies6Kirsten (2:21:57 PM): I convinced Donald in an AIM chat, the same chat I later used to spearhead my suspicion of him
spies6levi (2:22:06 PM): That was a joke, btw
spies6Kirsten (2:22:16 PM): I did not laugh, Levi
spies6Kirsten (2:22:18 PM):
spies6Kirsten (2:22:26 PM): sorry, I thought that was super serious. My bad!
spies6levi (2:22:47 PM): During Exile #3, you had two very high-profile cases in the Burg
spies6Kirsten (2:22:53 PM): I did
spies6levi (2:22:53 PM): One on myself, the other on Donald
spies6Kirsten (2:22:57 PM): correct
spies6levi (2:23:02 PM): What made you vote myself over Donald?
spies6Kirsten (2:23:09 PM): two reasons
spies6Kirsten (2:23:25 PM): The first is your accumulated self-votes making me believe you were going to potentially get more votes than Donald
spies6Kirsten (2:23:36 PM): I wanted one of my suspects gone, either you or Donald over Yvette
spies6Kirsten (2:23:53 PM): The 2nd is that one of Donald's posts gave me the opinion that I was perhaps going down the wrong trail with him
spies6Kirsten (2:24:16 PM): he expressed that he was getting too heated to defend himself properly, which immediately struck me as a "frustrated citizen" response
spies6levi (2:25:14 PM): I'm not doing this investigation properly
spies6levi (2:25:17 PM): I have to backtrack slightly
spies6levi (2:25:27 PM): At Exile #2, as you know, you're team Exiled a Spy, Jaya
spies6levi (2:25:31 PM): Why did you not vote her?
spies6levi (2:26:06 PM): (Sorry that this is tedious, but I want to be thorough)
spies6Kirsten (2:26:11 PM): It's fine
spies6Kirsten (2:26:18 PM): Episode 2 I was gone most of the episode
spies6Kirsten (2:26:24 PM): almost the entire episode actually
spies6Kirsten (2:26:32 PM): I had friends come to visit that weekend, and put spies on the backburner
spies6Kirsten (2:26:50 PM): I decided my exile vote the night before exile based solely on what I saw in the burg
spies6Kirsten (2:27:10 PM): From jaya, I had basically two things I had seen from her
spies6Kirsten (2:27:20 PM): the first was her not voting Almathea despite the rest of her team doing so
spies6Kirsten (2:27:31 PM): the 2nd was a general feeling that she was just clueless and didn't know what was going on
spies6Kirsten (2:27:53 PM): cluelessness isn't really a spy trait, because spies have more information than citizens do
spies6Kirsten (2:28:22 PM): So anyway, I had her at "leaning citizen" on my list
spies6levi (2:28:42 PM): Alright
spies6Kirsten (2:28:43 PM): I hadn't seen much from her, and what I had seen wasn't enough for me to want to exile her
spies6levi (2:28:59 PM): At Exile #3, the Donald and Levi cases were not the only cases on the table
spies6levi (2:29:08 PM): Jason posted a case on Yvette
spies6levi (2:29:22 PM): Not only did you not vote Yvette, but you defended her quite fiercely
spies6levi (2:29:31 PM): What made you believe that she was a citizen so strongly?
spies6Kirsten (2:30:10 PM): For the reasons I defended her
spies6Kirsten (2:30:17 PM): Her actions did not make sense from a spy perspective
spies6Kirsten (2:30:54 PM): For example: If Yvette was a spy, and created a plan to save Robert from imprisonment, and as a result got Robert on her side, why would she imprison him then?
spies6Kirsten (2:31:09 PM): She just created a huge citizen ally, and then she throws him away?
spies6Kirsten (2:31:12 PM): It didn't make sense
spies6Kirsten (2:31:35 PM): and not only that, but in throwing him away brought a lot of suspicion upon herself based on the plan?
spies6levi (2:31:44 PM): Alright, I get the general idea
spies6levi (2:32:02 PM): I have another question, off the record
spies6levi (2:32:08 PM): Why haven't you been Imprisoned yet?
spies6Kirsten (2:32:19 PM): A question I've asked myself a lot
spies6Kirsten (2:32:32 PM): I think there are two reasons
spies6Kirsten (2:32:44 PM): one is that there were other targets who were better
spies6Kirsten (2:32:55 PM): (no longer applies, now that William and...Oswald??? wer eimprisoned)
spies6Kirsten (2:33:08 PM): and the 2nd is that I must be horribly wrong in my suspicions
spies6levi (2:33:18 PM): We'll get to your suspicions in a bit
spies6levi (2:33:21 PM): Back on the record
spies6levi (2:33:36 PM): Exile #4
spies6levi (2:33:43 PM): Why the sudden change of heart?
spies6levi (2:33:53 PM): Why vote Donald when you had been voting Levi?
spies6Kirsten (2:34:04 PM): Well, I grilled poor Levi in chat like 19 times
spies6levi (2:34:17 PM): (I can verify)
spies6Kirsten (2:34:32 PM): and based on that plus a "gut read" you can say, I decided that I no longer thought he was a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:35:06 PM): one reason was the "why would Levi imprison Mei Yun if they trusted each other" reason that was similar to the why would Yvette imprison Robert reason
spies6levi (2:35:08 PM): I just quoted that verbatim
spies6Kirsten (2:35:29 PM): oh?
spies6levi (2:35:39 PM): The gut read statement
spies6levi (2:35:41 PM): Lol
spies6levi (2:35:54 PM): I feel like a reporter
spies6Kirsten (2:35:57 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:36:06 PM): do you have a pencil behind the ear
spies6Kirsten (2:36:12 PM): notebook in hand
spies6levi (2:36:13 PM): brb
spies6levi (2:36:20 PM): Alright now I do
spies6Kirsten (2:36:34 PM): good
spies6levi (2:36:43 PM): Exile #5
spies6levi (2:36:46 PM): You voted Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:36:48 PM): I did
spies6levi (2:37:02 PM): During this Exile, one could say that there were no clear cases
spies6levi (2:37:09 PM): All kinds of people received votes
spies6Kirsten (2:37:13 PM): right
spies6levi (2:37:20 PM): Why did you single out Iris over all the others?
spies6Kirsten (2:37:38 PM): It was basically a process of elimination thing, to be honest
spies6Kirsten (2:37:50 PM): My top 4 suspects going into the exile were William, Faith, Ed, Ariel
spies6Kirsten (2:37:57 PM): exile = episode
spies6levi (2:38:04 PM): Pretty much
spies6Kirsten (2:38:15 PM): I chatted a lot with Faith, and determined that she was probably a citizen
spies6Kirsten (2:38:19 PM): I felt fairly confident about that
spies6Kirsten (2:38:27 PM): Ed got imprisoned so...
spies6Kirsten (2:38:43 PM): Tiberius spilled that William had a role
spies6Kirsten (2:38:58 PM): and I asked william about it, and he gave me kind of sparse details on it
spies6Kirsten (2:39:22 PM): I was iffy on William...but kind of decided to let him go for an episode so i could talk more with him about it later
spies6Kirsten (2:39:38 PM): that left Ariel, which I had absolutely no chance of rallying an exile on, so I dropped to my 5th suspect, Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:40:25 PM): The main point against Iris was her confessional post (Irate Iris)
spies6Kirsten (2:40:51 PM): she stated that she would have voted for Donald, yet never expressed any suspicion at Donald prior to being jailed...instead she had been pressuring Georgia
spies6levi (2:41:43 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:41:51 PM): You inadvertently answered the second question
spies6levi (2:42:07 PM): So we'll move on to Forum Mafia week
spies6levi (2:42:31 PM): I know this is obvious
spies6levi (2:42:34 PM): But in your own words
spies6levi (2:42:37 PM): Why did you vote Iris?
spies6levi (2:43:46 PM): There's no need to confer with your Spy buddies, its a simple question
spies6Kirsten (2:44:06 PM): Sorry, was posting something in a different game
spies6levi (2:44:13 PM): It's all right
spies6Kirsten (2:44:27 PM): She lied about her role...there was no way she was telling the truth, thus she was a spy
spies6levi (2:44:46 PM): Alright, that's good lol
spies6Kirsten (2:44:54 PM): Even if she was actually telling the truth about having to lie about her role, she then proceeded to tell the truth later, completely invalidating it
spies6Kirsten (2:45:11 PM): but yeah...I wrote like a 30,000 character post on this
spies6levi (2:45:21 PM): The one that made me completely lol
spies6Kirsten (2:45:23 PM): maybe not that many, but it was huge
spies6Kirsten (2:45:29 PM): hehe, yes
spies6levi (2:45:35 PM): Exile #7
spies6levi (2:45:44 PM): Amelia verified Iris's role
spies6levi (2:45:47 PM): Iris was a Spy
spies6levi (2:45:53 PM): The logical choice would be to vote Amelia
spies6levi (2:46:03 PM): But no, somehow within the mere hours before the Exile
spies6levi (2:46:12 PM): A plot emerges, and Thor, Citizen, goes home
spies6Kirsten (2:46:29 PM): The "plot" to exile Thor came long before the hours before exile
spies6levi (2:46:35 PM): You were one of the ones voting Thor
spies6levi (2:46:37 PM): Explain?
spies6Kirsten (2:46:38 PM): I pushed him as a spy all week
spies6Kirsten (2:46:42 PM): as did Mirela
spies6levi (2:46:47 PM): (I'm going for the dramatic here)
spies6Kirsten (2:47:37 PM): Thor. I thought he was a spy based on a few factors. One was him sitting on Faith for like 19 episodes and not doing much to make it happen. Another was that I believed his chats with Iris were fake
spies6Kirsten (2:48:11 PM): he posted them really for no real reason. It looked like a play made strictly for the purpose of trying to confirm himself
spies6Kirsten (2:48:53 PM): Add into that his stance on Iris from episode 6...which was fishy + him completely changing his mind on you from citizen to spy over 1 episode
spies6Kirsten (2:49:09 PM): He looked like a spy who was trying to change gears after half of his team had died
spies6levi (2:50:50 PM): And finally
spies6levi (2:50:55 PM): Well, not finally
spies6levi (2:51:00 PM): But the final voting record question
spies6levi (2:51:01 PM): Rey
spies6levi (2:51:14 PM): Explain plz
spies6Kirsten (2:52:40 PM): *blushes* where to begin with Reymond
spies6Kirsten (2:53:15 PM): Probably the most definitive piece of evidence in my mind was the "lie" surrounding him catching Iris
spies6Kirsten (2:53:48 PM): There was someone in the spies6 chat room called "Spies Viewer"
spies6Kirsten (2:54:01 PM): who happened to leave the hcat at the same time that Rey went offline (according to Tiberius)
spies6Kirsten (2:54:12 PM): suggesting that spies viewer was, in fact, Rey
spies6Kirsten (2:54:59 PM): my belief in that was strengthened when he blocked me for saying "how regularly do you view spies" but when Jenya asked him if he was in spies6 chat on an alias in 14 seconds he immediately jumped to the conclusion "Oh, is that was Kirsten was talking about"
spies6Kirsten (2:55:15 PM): I don't see how he could have connected those dots in 14 seconds unless he was guilty as charged
spies6levi (2:55:24 PM): Btw
spies6levi (2:55:33 PM): I am now calling this incident
spies6levi (2:55:35 PM): Viewergate
spies6Kirsten (2:55:38 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:55:43 PM):
spies6levi (2:55:46 PM): Any other reasons?
spies6Kirsten (2:56:00 PM): anyway, meanwhile he was grilling Iris on her role, which led to her "lie"
spies6Kirsten (2:56:31 PM): and he was really secretive about the whole ordeal, leading me to believe that his secrecy in combination with being on an alias in chat meant Rey = spy who was planning the best way to fake-chat with IRis
spies6Kirsten (2:56:50 PM): As for other reasons, I agreed with the majority of what Jenya said in her thread
spies6Kirsten (2:57:02 PM): he changed his mind from spy to citizen on people in teh same day, often for no reason
spies6levi (2:58:44 PM): Alright
spies6levi (2:58:52 PM): We are finally done with voting record related questions
spies6levi (2:59:00 PM): I have one more question for you
spies6Kirsten (2:59:03 PM): Part 1/23 complete
spies6levi (2:59:13 PM): Only one more
spies6levi (2:59:19 PM): There are three Spies remaining in the game
spies6Kirsten (2:59:22 PM): yep
spies6levi (2:59:28 PM): Give me their names, to the best of your ability
spies6levi (2:59:36 PM): Reasoning would be appreciated
spies6Kirsten (3:00:19 PM): That's a tough question
spies6Kirsten (3:00:30 PM): I will say that I "thought" I knew the last 3 were Khaled, Gretchen, Rey
spies6Kirsten (3:00:38 PM): but that theory has been proven false
spies6Kirsten (3:01:09 PM): Gretchen/Khaled/Boris
spies6levi (3:01:17 PM): Alright
spies6levi (3:01:22 PM): Why Gretchen?
spies6Kirsten (3:01:43 PM): Khaled can be substitued for Ariel...Boris for Jason, perhaps
spies6Kirsten (3:02:33 PM): Gretchen because she has done practically no spy hunting at all this game + she voted William episode 3 and was planning on voting him episode 4 despite having said that she felt William was cleared based on Jaya earlier in episode 3
spies6Kirsten (3:02:44 PM): + the reason I voted her in episode 2
spies6Kirsten (3:03:01 PM): with a "shrug" toward her recent actions
spies6Kirsten (3:03:21 PM): where she's basically dropped the jolly fat gig and defended Rey adamantly as a citizen
spies6Kirsten (3:04:21 PM): and a couple more "gut-like" reasons, such as me thinking she's a decent mafia player who is hiding behind a character and a few places where she's seemed "fake"
spies6levi (3:04:44 PM): Alright
spies6levi (3:04:46 PM): Why Khaled?
spies6Kirsten (3:05:01 PM): Underachiever
spies6Kirsten (3:05:12 PM): He had more stances in episode 2 than he does not
spies6Kirsten (3:05:14 PM): now
spies6Kirsten (3:05:48 PM): based on his claimed style of play, he should have a large amount of data right now and should be narrowing down the spies, yet last episode when I asked him who he was suspicious of he gave me a brush-aside answer of "everyone but Jenya"
spies6Kirsten (3:06:15 PM): He also doesn't seem to be actively making any effort to find spies
spies6Kirsten (3:06:29 PM): Does he not care? Is he a spy?
spies6levi (3:06:59 PM): And finally
spies6levi (3:07:01 PM): Why Boris?
spies6Kirsten (3:07:26 PM): Because he's Russian, and I hate Russians
spies6levi (3:07:46 PM): Duly noted
spies6Kirsten (3:07:57 PM): Boris is similar to Khaled. He's a smart player with the capability to be useful, but simply is not
spies6Kirsten (3:08:32 PM): also, he frequently admits that he's a spy or agrees that he's a spy, or whatever, which is starting to make me suspect him of just using it as a cover (Gretchen, same way)
spies6levi (3:09:14 PM): Alright
spies6levi (3:09:24 PM): Please do not discuss your answers with any other players
spies6levi (3:09:35 PM): I am really hoping to get everyone interviewed
spies6levi (3:09:55 PM): And hopefully get these posted Tuesday night (I'm optimistic)
spies6Kirsten (3:11:32 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (3:11:35 PM): I won't
spies6Kirsten (3:11:40 PM): I'll be hush-hush
spies6levi (3:11:59 PM): Now
spies6levi (3:12:01 PM): I need some more people
spies6levi (3:12:03 PM): To get online
spies6Kirsten (3:12:10 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (3:12:16 PM): that'll be the hard part
spies6levi (3:12:23 PM): I've got a little less than two hours before I have to leave for a cookout
spies6levi (3:12:35 PM): I should be able to get at least one more done
spies6Kirsten (3:12:46 PM): assuming someone logs on, yep
spies6levi (3:12:55 PM): Or Boris goes off of idle
spies6levi (3:13:08 PM): WTF
spies6levi (3:13:13 PM): Tiberius just posted in the Burg
spies6levi (3:13:31 PM): And he's not on AIM
spies6levi (3:13:57 PM): Well, nvm on Boris
spies6Kirsten (3:15:07 PM): yep