Episode 12 - Chats

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (2:43:44 PM): what do you think of Brother Levi, Queen Mirela, and the venerable jolly + fat = Gretchen?
sPIEs6Jason (2:44:23 PM): I think they're all possible Spies... but everyone is now lol... I think Gretchen is still the ebst bet, she didn all that work and said... absolutely nthing with it
spies6Kirsten (2:44:45 PM): the work is giving me some second thoughts
spies6Kirsten (2:44:54 PM): if she's screwed anyway, why go through all the trouble?
sPIEs6Jason (2:45:14 PM): It did for me at first... but I figure a Spy in trouble would want to do work to save herself at this point, so close to the end
sPIEs6Jason (2:46:26 PM): I started to reconsider last night when she started posting...
sPIEs6Jason (2:47:04 PM): But where are the conclusions? where's the answer? she psoted a bunch of snippets of conversations and posts, added a few comments here and there, but overall I still don't know anymore about who she suspects now than I did before
spies6Kirsten (2:47:43 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:47:55 PM): she did post in that one thread about how she didn't want to exile myself Jenya or ...Mirela maybe?
spies6Kirsten (2:48:01 PM): I can't remember exactly
sPIEs6Jason (2:48:18 PM): Well, that's a start lol
spies6Kirsten (2:48:45 PM): Do you know why Jenya cleared you and Levi from being a spy pair?
sPIEs6Jason (2:48:56 PM): She said it was tentative and I told her not to do it lol
sPIEs6Jason (2:49:03 PM): It was some dumb reason that shouldn't be a reason
spies6Kirsten (2:49:07 PM): haha
spies6Kirsten (2:49:14 PM): what was it?
spies6Kirsten (2:49:17 PM): do you remember?
sPIEs6Jason (2:49:18 PM): I mean, I like being more cleared... but it didnt make sense
sPIEs6Jason (2:49:32 PM): Something like... Levi told me he wanted to lead an exile last round, and he told her too
sPIEs6Jason (2:49:44 PM): And "Why would he tell me that if we were spy aprtners?" lol
spies6Kirsten (2:51:35 PM): right
spies6Kirsten (2:51:39 PM): because spies probably don't communicate
spies6Kirsten (2:51:41 PM): ;-)
sPIEs6Jason (2:51:48 PM): Exactly! Makes total sense
sPIEs6Jason (2:51:49 PM): -_-
spies6Kirsten (2:51:58 PM): So what is your stance on Levi/Mirela?
sPIEs6Jason (2:52:08 PM): Not nearly as sure as I felt a few days ago
spies6Kirsten (2:52:39 PM): how did you feel a few days ago, and how do you feel now?
sPIEs6Jason (2:53:15 PM): A few days ago I felt both were likekyl Cits
sPIEs6Jason (2:53:17 PM): Now I' rethinking
spies6Kirsten (2:53:49 PM): wha changed?
sPIEs6Jason (2:54:15 PM): Well, Levi "Wanted to lead an exile" last round but didnt know who he wanted to lead it on...
sPIEs6Jason (2:54:17 PM): sorry afk a sec
spies6Kirsten (2:57:39 PM): I refuse to accept your apology, and demand you to return from AFK
sPIEs6Jason (2:58:23 PM): DONE! For a sec... Ok, so he might have been trying to put himself "out there" intentionally
sPIEs6Jason (2:58:51 PM): Who knows, maybe the interview thing was the same... to get exposure to look Cittish, althugh that was actually helpful
spies6Kirsten (2:59:14 PM): what did you think of him last night?
sPIEs6Jason (3:01:44 PM): Well, the way I see it... you two are either both Spies or both Cits, that convo last night seemed like a real convo which makes me think perhaps cits
sPIEs6Jason (3:01:50 PM): But.... if you're not the Spies, who are?
sPIEs6Jason (3:02:22 PM): I'm looking more at people like Pete and Jenya right now, that I haven't really went after recently or at all
spies6Kirsten (3:03:00 PM): why would that chat make us both spies or both cits?
spies6Kirsten (3:03:10 PM): what is ruling out 1 spy 1 cit?
sPIEs6Jason (3:04:30 PM): It doesn't make you have to be, but I think its likely you're both the same allignment
sPIEs6Jason (3:04:44 PM): Either than convo was 100% genuine or it was 100% fake, I cant see it being a halfway acting jib
spies6Kirsten (3:05:30 PM): I don't really understand
spies6Kirsten (3:05:39 PM): if it was spy to cit or cit to spy, it would still be a genuine chat
sPIEs6Jason (3:06:08 PM): Only in the sense of self defense, a Spy would be having to create false suspicion to throw back at the other
sPIEs6Jason (3:07:06 PM): If you're a Spy you've done a good bit of early distancing/bussing
sPIEs6Jason (3:07:27 PM): And Levi would've fallen in line with Donald time-wise
sPIEs6Jason (3:08:23 PM): My job is to figure out whether that's true or not -__
spies6Kirsten (3:08:29 PM): well, I'm not a spy, but I'm hesitant to clear Levi based on that
spies6Kirsten (3:08:58 PM): I mean, everyone in the game has attacked other people at some point. That means spies have attacked citizens before
sPIEs6Jason (3:09:12 PM): I don't think he should be clear, I won't clear anybody anymore, but, I think it's likely that he's a Cit if you are due to the circumstances
sPIEs6Jason (3:11:42 PM): What do you think of Pete?
spies6Kirsten (3:42:53 PM): sorry
spies6Kirsten (3:42:57 PM): had to help load stuff
spies6Kirsten (3:43:10 PM): Or maybe it's taking me 31 minutes to think of how to answer that question
spies6Kirsten (3:43:18 PM): I think Pete is probably a citizen
sPIEs6Jason (3:43:21 PM): I think the latter is likely you Spy
spies6Kirsten (3:43:32 PM): you would think that, you suspicious son of a...
sPIEs6Jason (3:44:01 PM): Son of a.... WHAT? Go ahead and say it... my mother is a whore :-(
spies6Kirsten (3:44:10 PM): Son of a whore
sPIEs6Jason (3:44:17 PM): At least its in the open now
spies6Kirsten (3:44:22 PM): Actually
spies6Kirsten (3:44:25 PM): I knew that from before
spies6Kirsten (3:44:32 PM): and actually, I've told you that I was your mother
spies6Kirsten (3:44:35 PM): which was a lie
sPIEs6Jason (3:44:52 PM): Well, are you a whore? If so... then you might still be
spies6Kirsten (3:44:57 PM): hmmm
spies6Kirsten (3:44:59 PM): I am a whore
spies6Kirsten (3:45:07 PM): and I have had innumerable illegitimate children
spies6Kirsten (3:45:13 PM): so I guess that possibility can remain on the table
sPIEs6Jason (3:45:18 PM): What would your prices be? Speaking on a compeltely uninterested in hypothetical level
spies6Kirsten (3:45:28 PM): Damn
spies6Kirsten (3:45:42 PM): you would ask that question of your own "hypothetically it could be possible" mother?
spies6Kirsten (3:46:02 PM): I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...Son.
sPIEs6Jason (3:46:07 PM): Well, you see, I have this friend... or... Spy partner, if you will, that's looking fr guilt free action
spies6Kirsten (3:46:12 PM): haha
sPIEs6Jason (3:46:22 PM): Sometimes an apple likes to be tickled by its own leaves
spies6Kirsten (3:46:33 PM): I ensure my clients feel the most possible guilt they can
spies6Kirsten (3:46:38 PM): oooh
spies6Kirsten (3:46:47 PM): maybe that's why the apple falls from the tree
sPIEs6Jason (3:47:04 PM): That could be it... the apple likes to be brushed on the way down
sPIEs6Jason (3:47:28 PM): I guess my Spy partner won't be interested... that means I have to wear the sheet over my head and find my kneepads again
spies6Kirsten (3:47:40 PM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (3:47:49 PM): Ku fux Klan style
sPIEs6Jason (3:48:06 PM): Exactly! Gotta love the KFK
spies6Kirsten (3:48:32 PM): Intolerance of Blacks. Anal penetration. It's all there.
sPIEs6Jason (3:48:57 PM): You'd think if they're against black and brown skin colors that anal would be the last thing they're into
spies6Kirsten (3:49:22 PM): maybe the modern strategy is infiltration, not lynching
sPIEs6Jason (3:49:42 PM): That's possible, they just slip into the situation to gain information?
spies6Kirsten (3:50:10 PM): Naturally. They run like a well lubricated machine
sPIEs6Jason (3:51:06 PM): That's good, if not they'd probably wind up overheating or roughing up the whole operation, and then they'd be in trouble
spies6Kirsten (3:51:27 PM): That could be a messy situation
sPIEs6Jason (3:51:50 PM): It definitely can be, once they rupture the peacefulness of it all everything just spews out into chas
sPIEs6Jason (3:51:52 PM): chaos*
spies6Kirsten (3:53:13 PM): the situation can definitely explode
sPIEs6Jason (3:53:50 PM): And that's usually when everything falls apart :*(
spies6Kirsten (3:54:08 PM): but Pete is probably a citizen. His voting record is stellar, and he seems to want to weigh situations from an unbiased vantage point, without ulterior motive
sPIEs6Jason (3:54:31 PM): His vantage point is truly unbiased, he's not around to talk to anyone enough :-(
spies6Kirsten (3:55:04 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (3:55:09 PM): and now he's gone for...
spies6Kirsten (3:55:10 PM): a week
spies6Kirsten (3:55:19 PM): *shakes fist*
sPIEs6Jason (3:55:24 PM): Yeah... the LAST week
sPIEs6Jason (3:55:39 PM): I mean even if we want to talk to him and see where he stands... we can't
spies6Kirsten (3:56:45 PM): we can't even send him a Donald style Pm
sPIEs6Jason (3:57:08 PM): Nope :-( or we could, but it'd be useless
sPIEs6Jason (3:57:35 PM): What if we come down to a do or die Exile and he's not around to cast an informed vote?
sPIEs6Jason (3:57:45 PM): That worries me
spies6Kirsten (3:58:00 PM): That bothers me too
spies6Kirsten (3:58:12 PM): I guess the key is to lynch 2 spies in a row
spies6Kirsten (3:58:16 PM): and keep that scenario from occuring
sPIEs6Jason (3:58:21 PM): We definitely need to
spies6Kirsten (3:58:27 PM): if we start by exiling you, would that be one?
sPIEs6Jason (3:58:34 PM): So, given that we need to do that, who would be your pair?
sPIEs6Jason (3:58:42 PM): It would! You should Exile me ASAP
spies6Kirsten (3:58:53 PM): my pair is Jason and...who's your buddy?
sPIEs6Jason (3:59:09 PM): Are we talking Spy buddy or fuck buddy? they are different people
spies6Kirsten (3:59:22 PM): spy, preferably, although I'm interested in the latter as well
sPIEs6Jason (3:59:36 PM): Well, the former is Jenya's nose... the latter is Jenya's.... well, something else
spies6Kirsten (3:59:50 PM): Jason and Jenya....'s nose it is
sPIEs6Jason (4:00:05 PM): Well, we took care of that problem
spies6Kirsten (4:00:50 PM): who are your top 2?
sPIEs6Jason (4:01:59 PM): Well, a lot depends on pairs... I think you and Levi make a good pair, such a cute couple! And I think that Pete and Levi make a good pair, and I think that you and Gretchen make a good pair
spies6Kirsten (4:02:26 PM): how could me and Gretchen be a pair?
sPIEs6Jason (4:03:09 PM): You the active Spy, she the non active Spy, didn't you suggest she be protected last episode, too?
spies6Kirsten (4:05:25 PM): I suggested Mirela
sPIEs6Jason (4:06:02 PM): I thought in the convo Jenya showed me you said "Mirela or Gretchen"
sPIEs6Jason (4:06:16 PM): And then took Gretchen off
spies6Kirsten (4:06:17 PM): I did say that
spies6Kirsten (4:06:22 PM): I didn't take her off
spies6Kirsten (4:06:26 PM): I forgot about that actually
spies6Kirsten (4:06:27 PM): ;-)
sPIEs6Jason (4:06:29 PM): Lol
spies6Kirsten (4:06:36 PM): I had Mirela #1, and JFG #2
sPIEs6Jason (4:06:37 PM): I'm amazed I remembered something for once
spies6Kirsten (4:06:44 PM): and I forgot =/
spies6Kirsten (4:07:13 PM): I'm like an online encyclopedia Spiestanica, and I just 404 errored.
sPIEs6Jason (4:07:34 PM): Watch out, you might get a blue screen in your database next
spies6Kirsten (4:07:41 PM): NOOOO
spies6Kirsten (4:07:50 PM): I will blame Microsoft for losing spies 6
sPIEs6Jason (4:08:08 PM): That's not the only thing they'd lost through the years -_-
spies6Kirsten (4:08:46 PM): their souls? Any sense of humanity?
sPIEs6Jason (4:08:57 PM): Among many other things,yes

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (5:50:20 PM): who did you bus drive?
sPIEs6Jason (5:59:18 PM): I'm back sorry my dad's been out of the cuntry all month and he just returned home
spies6Kirsten (5:59:35 PM): family < spies6
sPIEs6Jason (5:59:36 PM): I bust drive many kids with promises of candy before I take them to my house
sPIEs6Jason (5:59:42 PM): This is very true :-(
sPIEs6Jason (6:15:08 PM): Have you reached a verdict on your votes for tonight yet?
spies6Kirsten (6:15:16 PM): who did you target last episoe?
sPIEs6Jason (6:15:21 PM): I didn't
sPIEs6Jason (6:15:24 PM): Or the episode before
spies6Kirsten (6:15:34 PM): ok
sPIEs6Jason (6:15:54 PM): If I dont know who Jenya's targetting before hand I don't Deflect because I don't want to screw up what she's doing
spies6Kirsten (6:16:02 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:16:05 PM): it makes sense
spies6Kirsten (6:16:11 PM): Gretchen is getting 3 from me
spies6Kirsten (6:16:13 PM): I don't know the 2 yet
sPIEs6Jason (6:16:13 PM): And if I don't do it when I think about it... sometimes I forget cmpletely
sPIEs6Jason (6:16:29 PM): I'm still up in the air...
sPIEs6Jason (6:17:27 PM): I see the best possibilities as a Gretchen/M,irela Spy team or a you and Levi Spy team
spies6Kirsten (6:17:58 PM): I can shoot down one of those spy teams right now
sPIEs6Jason (6:18:14 PM): I figured you might say that :-)
sPIEs6Jason (6:18:22 PM): I'm leaning towards Gretchen/Mirela
spies6Kirsten (6:18:23 PM): Brotha Levi might be a spy
spies6Kirsten (6:18:25 PM): but we're not a team
sPIEs6Jason (6:18:45 PM): I can sort of see him fitting with Gretchen or Mirela... or Pete
sPIEs6Jason (6:22:36 PM): Mirela's acting pretty scummy... Jenya convinced her not to vote me and she now wants us to vote you
sPIEs6Jason (6:22:58 PM): That's Gretchen to Jenya to you to Jenya to you... for Mirela tonight.
spies6Kirsten (6:23:47 PM): is she planning to vote me now?
spies6Kirsten (6:23:52 PM): she hasn't addressed it to me at all.
sPIEs6Jason (6:24:04 PM):
spies6mirela (9:21:54 PM): kirsten for sure

spies6mirela (9:22:05 PM): and i think levi
sPIEs6Jason (6:26:51 PM): Are you a Spy with Levi or is he a Spy with Pete or is Mirela a Spy with Gretchen?
sPIEs6Jason (6:27:02 PM): I can't deal with this, my head is spinning...
spies6Kirsten (6:27:03 PM): spies6Kirsten (6:25:00 PM): who are you voting?
spies6mirela (6:25:32 PM): no
sPIEs6Jason (6:27:15 PM): She's voting for "No"?
spies6Kirsten (6:27:17 PM): no clue
spies6Kirsten (6:27:22 PM): sorry, I cut that short on accident
spies6Kirsten (6:27:30 PM): spies6Kirsten (6:25:00 PM): who are you voting?
spies6mirela (6:25:32 PM): no clue
sPIEs6Jason (6:27:35 PM): -_- I don't like this...
spies6Kirsten (6:27:41 PM): she is unable to tell me
spies6Kirsten (6:27:45 PM): that she's voting for me
sPIEs6Jason (6:28:05 PM): Yes
sPIEs6Jason (6:28:29 PM): I think she may be covering for Spy partner Gretchen by trying to do a sneak attack on you
sPIEs6Jason (6:34:35 PM): I'm putting my 3 votes on Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (6:34:59 PM): and your 2 voets?
sPIEs6Jason (6:35:12 PM): I *might* put my 2 votes on you or I might leave them on Mirela, it depends on how things want
spies6Kirsten (6:35:23 PM): me?! *gasp*
sPIEs6Jason (6:35:23 PM): look* I want Gretchen gone before you because I thinks he's more likely a Spy
spies6Kirsten (6:35:29 PM): he?
sPIEs6Jason (6:35:37 PM): Oops, IT*
sPIEs6Jason (6:35:45 PM): If you're in danger of going I won't vote for you
spies6Kirsten (6:35:57 PM): so your 2nd vote is a throwaway?
sPIEs6Jason (6:36:27 PM): If it has to be... I want it on you because if Gretchen isn't a Spy, which she better be, I'll be looking straight at you
spies6Kirsten (6:36:39 PM): then we'll lose
sPIEs6Jason (6:36:55 PM): And I want to abide by the honor code, by at first issuing a challenge, aka 2 throwaway votes to you this round
sPIEs6Jason (6:37:13 PM): If you can convince me you're a Cit moreso than Levi and Pete I'm listening
sPIEs6Jason (6:37:26 PM): But if Gretchen's a Spy I'm immediately voting Mirela and leaving my vote there
spies6Kirsten (6:37:33 PM): you've already agreed with the evidence for me being a citizen
spies6Kirsten (6:37:43 PM): Unless you've changed your mind, and getting spies exiled is no longer a citizen tell
sPIEs6Jason (6:38:05 PM): Getting Spies Exiled is of course a Scum tell!! Sorry, no time for jokes... I'm torn on that
sPIEs6Jason (6:38:19 PM): Because I can see how it'd work if you're a truly devious Spy
spies6Kirsten (6:38:25 PM): The way I got them both exiled makes me a clear citizen
spies6Kirsten (6:38:32 PM): See, that is a bad case though.
spies6Kirsten (6:38:44 PM): The case for me being a spy is that I look really citizen, so I coudl be a devious spy looking like a citizen
spies6Kirsten (6:39:04 PM): The simple explanation: The most likely explanation: The correct explanation: Is that I looked like a citizen because I was a citizen.
sPIEs6Jason (6:39:26 PM): I certainly hope so
sPIEs6Jason (6:39:39 PM): If Gretchen isn't a Spy... who would you say the two Spies are?
spies6Kirsten (6:39:50 PM): Levi probably has to be one at that point
spies6Kirsten (6:39:58 PM): And then probably Pete
spies6Kirsten (6:40:09 PM): I dont' think Levi + Mirela make sense together as spies
spies6Kirsten (6:40:16 PM): and if Mirela is a spy, she's never shied away from exiling citizens
sPIEs6Jason (6:40:20 PM): Me neither, I've ruled them out as a pair
spies6Kirsten (6:40:22 PM): so I don't see why she'd shy from exiling Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (6:40:37 PM): Leving just two
sPIEs6Jason (6:40:44 PM): And I agree, if Gretchen isnt a Spy I dont see how Mirela would b
spies6Kirsten (6:40:55 PM): Leving a guy who's case Petered out episode 4, after Donald was a spy
sPIEs6Jason (6:41:11 PM): So it comes down to you, Pete, and Levi and my mind... I really hoep Gretchen';s a Spy and we end this
spies6Kirsten (6:41:27 PM): I hope Gretchen is a spy too
spies6Kirsten (6:41:30 PM): Not positive on Mirela after that point
spies6Kirsten (6:41:41 PM): but hitting a spy now is almost essential
sPIEs6Jason (6:42:05 PM): It is
sPIEs6Jason (6:42:09 PM): We cant hit do or die
spies6Kirsten (6:42:23 PM): If we lose this game, I will be so mad
spies6Kirsten (6:42:37 PM): Maybe not mad...more disappointed, feel like a failure, etc.
spies6Kirsten (6:42:42 PM): I fucked up so many times
spies6Kirsten (6:42:50 PM): This should have been in the bag a while ago
sPIEs6Jason (6:43:19 PM): I agree... I'll feel terrible
sPIEs6Jason (6:43:22 PM): We've worked too hard
sPIEs6Jason (6:43:29 PM): We had so many Spies out so early, what happened?
sPIEs6Jason (6:46:01 PM): It's going to be close...
sPIEs6Jason (6:46:08 PM): I really want to believe you're a Cit
spies6Kirsten (6:46:29 PM): I don't have to want
spies6Kirsten (6:46:35 PM): I can believe it already, baby
sPIEs6Jason (6:46:50 PM): Teahc me to believe, too :-(
spies6Kirsten (6:47:53 PM): If me throwing away Donald + Iris, + spy hunting extensively this entire game + trying to find new evidence + drawing conclusions based on the evidence I find isn't enough to consider me a citizen, then there isn't a whole lot I can do
spies6Kirsten (6:48:00 PM): I can only teach those willing to learn
sPIEs6Jason (6:48:44 PM): I'm willing... I'm counting up votes now
spies6Kirsten (6:49:17 PM): +3 Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (6:49:19 PM): +2 Pete
sPIEs6Jason (6:49:48 PM): Okay, lets see..
sPIEs6Jason (6:52:36 PM): gretchen - 12
Kirsten - 6
Levi - 6
Jason - 3
Mirela - 2
sPIEs6Jason (6:52:52 PM): Thats what I have not counting my 2 vote selection or Pete's because his is unknown
spies6Kirsten (6:53:06 PM): I voted pete for 2
sPIEs6Jason (6:53:21 PM): oops cut that fof at the end -_-
sPIEs6Jason (6:53:51 PM): If Pete and I both 2'd you, you'd still be okay
spies6Kirsten (6:53:58 PM): yeah
sPIEs6Jason (6:55:35 PM): I'm 2 voting you as a warning, don't make me send you to the principal's office, young lady
sPIEs6Jason (6:55:49 PM): I also want Mirela to think she has me on her side because when Gretchen flips Spy Mirela's going down
sPIEs6Jason (6:56:14 PM): And if the two of us survive Imprisonment... I'll need your help to get her
sPIEs6Jason (7:02:37 PM): If Gretchen's a Spy and I die to Imprisonment... you and Levi are going to have to convince Pete to vote for her
sPIEs6Jason (7:02:47 PM): for Mirela, that is
spies6Kirsten (7:02:51 PM): ok
sPIEs6Jason (7:03:04 PM): Saying that now and not before Imprisonment so I don't get in trouble with Sam
spies6Kirsten (7:04:51 PM): what makes you so certain about Mirela?
sPIEs6Jason (7:05:05 PM): Her desperation to get us to switch from Gretchen to you
sPIEs6Jason (7:05:28 PM): Pretty much suggests that if Gretchen's a Spy she is. First she wanted Jenya... and me... and Jenya... and you... anbd Jenya... and you...
sPIEs6Jason (7:05:38 PM): She's trying to get the vote t go anywhere else and I don't like it

[Kirsten]

spies6levi (4:16:26 PM): ur back
spies6levi (4:16:32 PM): And in time for Imprisonment
spies6Kirsten (4:16:38 PM): Yay...
spies6Kirsten (4:16:58 PM): what happened last episode?
spies6Kirsten (4:17:08 PM): I see Boris was exiled and was a citizen...how did it all go down?
spies6levi (4:17:12 PM): Mirela is a good author, btw
spies6levi (4:17:22 PM): Well
spies6levi (4:17:24 PM): Boris voted
spies6Kirsten (4:17:25 PM): I haven't read any of those things yet
spies6levi (4:17:25 PM): For Jenya
spies6levi (4:17:28 PM): At Exile
spies6levi (4:17:37 PM): So did Georgia
spies6Kirsten (4:17:43 PM): why?
spies6levi (4:17:53 PM): I don't know why either voted for Jenya
spies6levi (4:18:07 PM): I think Boris did it
spies6levi (4:18:11 PM): as a suicide vote ;(
spies6levi (4:18:14 PM): :-(
spies6Kirsten (4:18:18 PM): lame
spies6levi (4:18:25 PM): If he'd have gone Gretchen, there would have been a tie
spies6levi (4:18:29 PM): Which would have been interesting
spies6levi (4:18:34 PM): Because only three people
spies6levi (4:18:37 PM): Showed up to Exile
spies6Kirsten (4:18:38 PM): Georgia would have been the decider, then?
spies6Kirsten (4:18:40 PM): wow
spies6levi (4:18:40 PM): Me, Jason, Georgia
spies6levi (4:18:41 PM): Yea
spies6levi (4:19:59 PM): Btw
spies6levi (4:20:00 PM): Your story
spies6levi (4:20:02 PM): Was hilarious
spies6Kirsten (4:20:06 PM): thanks :-)
spies6levi (4:21:04 PM): Seriously
spies6levi (4:21:07 PM): I lol'd so much
spies6levi (4:21:12 PM): Like the BK crown
spies6levi (4:21:23 PM): Btw
spies6levi (4:21:27 PM): You should watch my video
spies6levi (4:21:30 PM): I'm quite proud, lol
spies6Kirsten (4:21:33 PM): :-)
spies6Kirsten (4:21:37 PM): I'll see them all eventually
spies6Kirsten (4:21:41 PM): I'm so behind right now..
spies6Kirsten (4:21:41 PM): bah
spies6levi (4:23:04 PM): That sucks
spies6Kirsten (4:23:35 PM): I ended up being gone until late last night (or early this morning, however you want to look at it) and then I had to work today
spies6levi (4:23:54 PM): Ouch
spies6levi (4:57:40 PM): Anyone in the losers lounge that you want to say hi to?
spies6levi (4:57:44 PM): I can relay the message?
spies6levi (4:57:47 PM): *!
spies6Kirsten (4:57:57 PM): really?
spies6levi (4:59:48 PM): Yea
spies6levi (4:59:52 PM): I think I'm gettin Imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (5:00:11 PM): :-(
spies6Kirsten (5:00:16 PM): again I hope I get imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (5:00:22 PM): but know that I probably won't...
spies6Kirsten (5:00:50 PM): I want to say hi to everyone really
spies6Kirsten (5:00:59 PM): tell Ariel she needs more spy suspects
spies6levi (5:01:36 PM): Ok
spies6Kirsten (5:01:41 PM): :-)
spies6Kirsten (5:01:52 PM): who do you think are the spies?
spies6levi (5:01:56 PM): Never mind
spies6levi (5:01:58 PM): I'm safe
spies6levi (5:02:00 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (5:02:09 PM): wow, haha
spies6Kirsten (5:02:19 PM): tell Levi he's a son of a ...
spies6Kirsten (5:02:35 PM): Jenya saved you maybe?
spies6levi (5:02:59 PM): Possibly
spies6levi (5:03:16 PM): If you go
spies6levi (5:03:18 PM): I'll miss you
spies6Kirsten (5:03:25 PM): I'll miss you too my suspicious friend
spies6Kirsten (5:04:10 PM): wow, I almost just did a "if I get imprisoned...go after"
spies6levi (5:04:30 PM): If I get Imprisoned . . . *stops typing*
spies6Kirsten (5:04:38 PM): If I get imprisoned
spies6Kirsten (5:04:40 PM): I will log off...
spies6levi (5:04:44 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (5:07:33 PM): I look like pac man!
spies6levi (7:58:15 PM): I apologize
spies6levi (7:58:18 PM): That is all
spies6Kirsten (7:58:26 PM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (7:58:30 PM): why are you apologizing?
spies6levi (7:58:37 PM): For grilling you
spies6levi (7:58:39 PM): And doubting
spies6levi (7:58:42 PM): That you were cit
spies6Kirsten (7:58:49 PM): and...?
spies6levi (7:58:52 PM): I never should have gotten so paranoid
spies6levi (7:59:11 PM): Sorry for wasting that hour
spies6Kirsten (7:59:17 PM): I don't consider it a waste
spies6Kirsten (7:59:28 PM): I got to flex my defense muscles ;-)
spies6levi (7:59:35 PM): They are very tough
spies6Kirsten (7:59:52 PM): Paranoia is the name of the game
spies6levi (7:59:53 PM): Gretchen's a Spy
spies6Kirsten (7:59:59 PM): I think so
spies6levi (8:00:04 PM): And if she isn't
spies6levi (8:00:12 PM): >
spies6levi (8:00:15 PM): >:x
spies6levi (8:00:20 PM): >
spies6levi (8:00:23 PM): There we go
spies6levi (8:00:23 PM): Lol
spies6levi (8:00:28 PM): Was trying to find the smiley
spies6levi (8:00:33 PM): If you are a Spy
spies6levi (8:00:39 PM): I am going to be SOOOOOOO Mad
spies6Kirsten (8:00:42 PM): hahaha
spies6Kirsten (8:00:44 PM): well
spies6Kirsten (8:00:47 PM): congratulations
spies6Kirsten (8:00:49 PM): you won't be so mad
spies6Kirsten (8:00:56 PM): I'll be annoyed if you're a spy
spies6Kirsten (8:01:00 PM): but I don't think so
spies6levi (8:01:03 PM): Why annoyed?
spies6Kirsten (8:01:09 PM): because I was on you early and let up
spies6levi (8:01:14 PM): Heh
spies6levi (8:01:20 PM): Btw
spies6levi (8:01:26 PM): Nvm
spies6Kirsten (8:01:30 PM): ?
spies6Kirsten (8:01:49 PM): you have made me insanely curious
spies6levi (8:02:24 PM): You know how Jenya
spies6levi (8:02:27 PM): Was arguing that point
spies6levi (8:02:33 PM): Of you dropping Donald in episode 2
spies6levi (8:02:40 PM): Then coming back in episode 3 ?
spies6Kirsten (8:02:42 PM): yeah
spies6levi (8:02:50 PM): I was the first person to have that thought
spies6levi (8:02:59 PM): I mentioned it
spies6levi (8:03:03 PM): Then forgot about it
spies6Kirsten (8:03:20 PM): I thought you and Donald were spies
spies6Kirsten (8:03:26 PM): based on how you interacted with each other's cases
spies6Kirsten (8:03:46 PM): that point is still the thing that keeps you at less than fully citizen to me.

[Kirsten]

spies6levi (9:33:53 AM): yo
spies6Kirsten (9:34:33 AM): hi
spies6Kirsten (9:35:01 AM): what made you change your mind about me last night?
spies6levi (9:35:45 AM): You acted cit under pressure
spies6Kirsten (9:36:15 AM): what was the basis for that determination?
spies6levi (9:36:24 AM): Gut feeling
spies6levi (9:36:28 AM): You were never at a loss for words
spies6levi (9:36:37 AM): You found something wrong with every idea I came up with
spies6levi (9:36:46 AM): (the early rounds are what determine your Spyhood
spies6levi (9:36:59 AM): Your crappy voting record made me look at the early rounds for you
spies6levi (9:37:20 AM): So if there was a feasible way for you to be a Spy in the early rounds, I'd have probably voted you?
spies6levi (9:37:24 AM): *)
spies6levi (9:41:53 AM): How is Gretchen heroic?
spies6levi (9:41:56 AM): Or reliable?
spies6Kirsten (9:42:31 AM): How is she not heroic or reliable?
spies6levi (9:43:02 AM): I stand corrected
spies6levi (9:43:03 AM): Again
spies6levi (9:44:13 AM): Boris story = not funny
spies6Kirsten (9:44:32 AM): Rey dying a horrible death wasn't funny?
spies6levi (9:44:41 AM): No, that's needed
spies6levi signed off at 10:52:18 AM
spies6levi signed on at 1:51:13 PM
spies6Kirsten (2:44:04 PM): Leviticus
spies6levi (2:44:10 PM): Oh hey
spies6Kirsten (2:44:15 PM): I ask you to run through the players in the game
spies6Kirsten (2:44:22 PM): and provide me with your stance on all
spies6levi (2:44:38 PM): I'm going to be quiet-ish, I'm plannign a huge challenge for a separate game
spies6levi (2:44:41 PM): I can do that though
spies6levi (2:44:46 PM): Levi - Obv cit
spies6levi (2:45:04 PM): Gretchen - Spy candidate, is fairly suspicious
spies6Kirsten (2:45:16 PM): what makes JFG a suspect?
spies6levi (2:45:19 PM): Mirela - Feels cit but the horrible voting record makes me doubt
spies6levi (2:45:27 PM): Gretchen
spies6levi (2:45:29 PM): Up until now
spies6levi (2:45:33 PM): SHe hasn't doen jackshit
spies6levi (2:45:38 PM): All of her analysis posts in the Burg
spies6Kirsten (2:45:40 PM): Khaled didn't do jackshit
spies6levi (2:45:48 PM): Feel like your trying to get the square into the round hole
spies6levi (2:45:51 PM): Amelia didn't do jackshit
spies6Kirsten (2:46:04 PM): actually, I once witnessed her in the act
spies6Kirsten (2:46:08 PM): it was...disturbing
spies6levi (2:46:25 PM): Eww
spies6Kirsten (2:46:27 PM): yeah]
spies6levi (2:46:32 PM): Pete
spies6levi (2:46:36 PM): Could be a very dangerous Spy
spies6levi (2:46:38 PM): Great voting record
spies6levi (2:46:42 PM): But he wasn't a leader for Alma
spies6levi (2:46:48 PM): Voted Jaya out of self-preservation
spies6levi (2:46:52 PM): Also is completely quiet
spies6levi (2:47:02 PM): He's kind of tha t"little voice in everyone's ear"
spies6Kirsten (2:47:12 PM): voted Jaya out of self-preservation?
spies6levi (2:47:15 PM): YOu never know what Pete's doing . . . which as a SPy could be very dangerosu
spies6levi (2:47:20 PM): Didn't Rey push Pete that exile?
spies6Kirsten (2:47:30 PM): at the last minute, when Pete wasn't even online
spies6levi (2:47:35 PM): Or do I not have my facts straight?
spies6levi (2:47:41 PM): Oh I was mistaken
spies6levi (2:47:42 PM): Sorry
spies6levi (2:47:52 PM): Jenya
spies6levi (2:48:01 PM): The fact that she is not dead yet doesn't make sense
spies6levi (2:48:05 PM): But she is actively hunting Spies
spies6levi (2:48:12 PM): Recently, she hasn't had any results
spies6levi (2:48:25 PM): But she works way too hard if she's a Spy
spies6levi (2:49:21 PM): you
spies6levi (2:49:29 PM): Your early rounds
spies6levi (2:49:35 PM): Outshine your crappy voting record recently
spies6levi (2:49:40 PM): I think taht you are a cit
spies6levi (2:49:45 PM): Jason makes me nervous
spies6levi (2:50:01 PM): I could potentially see him as Spies with Jason
spies6levi (2:50:07 PM): Jenya could be taking heat for Jason, not you
spies6levi (2:50:11 PM): With my Active Shield theory
spies6Kirsten (2:50:15 PM): him as spies with jason?
spies6levi (2:50:21 PM): *gretchen
spies6levi (2:50:28 PM): His role could explain Khaled's yes
spies6Kirsten (2:50:46 PM): it could
spies6levi (2:51:15 PM): He doesn't work as hard as other member's of the Burg
spies6Kirsten (2:51:16 PM): What about Mirela feels cit?
spies6levi (2:51:32 PM): Just hte way she sounds in chats
spies6levi (2:51:39 PM): I can't quite put my finger on it
spies6Kirsten (2:52:13 PM): what changed from Episode 5?
spies6levi (2:52:32 PM): Episode 5
spies6levi (2:52:36 PM): The Bad Vibrations thread?
spies6Kirsten (2:52:45 PM): yeah
spies6levi (2:52:56 PM): That was based on Jenya's test mainly
spies6levi (2:53:09 PM): And bolstered by the disconnection incident
spies6levi (2:53:21 PM): Both of which were proven wrong
spies6levi (2:53:23 PM): Crap
spies6levi (2:53:25 PM): I g2g
spies6levi (2:53:27 PM): Sorry
spies6Kirsten (2:53:32 PM): no problem
spies6Kirsten (2:53:33 PM): later
spies6levi signed off at 2:53:36 PM
spies6levi signed on at 3:59:39 PM
spies6levi (4:02:02 PM): Hey
spies6Kirsten (4:02:12 PM): hello
spies6levi (4:02:23 PM): What be up?
spies6Kirsten (4:05:47 PM): particles of matter
spies6Kirsten (4:05:55 PM): arranged in a systematic form
spies6Kirsten (4:06:07 PM): to provide shelter against the elements
spies6levi (4:06:12 PM): Ok then
spies6Kirsten (4:07:25 PM): and you?
spies6levi (4:07:51 PM): A deep dark plot to get two more citizens exiled and give me and my surprise Spy partner Jason the win
spies6levi (4:08:13 PM): Er
spies6Kirsten (4:08:14 PM): you and Jason would make sense as spies
spies6levi (4:08:14 PM): I mean
spies6levi (4:08:18 PM): Working on stuff for my game
spies6levi (4:08:20 PM): :-P
spies6Kirsten (4:08:20 PM): he did defend you in episode 3-4
spies6levi (4:20:24 PM): come in spies6

[Kirsten]

spies6levi (6:41:06 PM): Any news?
spies6Kirsten (6:41:15 PM): I don't think so
spies6levi (6:41:23 PM): LOL
spies6levi (6:41:43 PM): I got an "I don't think so" a "not really" and a "lots" to that question
spies6Kirsten (6:41:56 PM): the lots was...Jenya?
spies6Kirsten (6:42:01 PM): People are swapping their votes like mad
spies6Kirsten (6:42:05 PM): nobody is realy set in stone
spies6levi (6:42:27 PM): No
spies6levi (6:42:28 PM): Jason
spies6levi (6:42:41 PM): How much drama did I miss?
spies6Kirsten (6:43:08 PM): Mirela swapping her vote from Me to Jenya to Me to Jenya to back to Me to not sure
spies6Kirsten (6:45:23 PM): but the fact of the matter is that there is genuine evidence against her, in my opinion. That is why I am voting Yvette.
spies6Kirsten (6:45:32 PM): fact of the matter is that your opinion...?
spies6levi (6:45:47 PM): Your voting Yvette?
spies6levi (6:45:57 PM): Why are you voting Yvette?
spies6Kirsten (6:46:14 PM): that's a quote from you
spies6Kirsten (6:46:19 PM): me suspicious friend
spies6levi (6:46:39 PM): Why are you quoting me about Yvette 15 minutes before Exile?
spies6levi (6:46:41 PM): What is going on?
spies6Kirsten (6:48:08 PM): I'm reading through your posts
spies6levi (6:48:15 PM): Oh i see
spies6levi (6:49:49 PM): Read on Mirela?
spies6Kirsten (6:49:51 PM): your vote this episode?
spies6levi (6:49:55 PM): Oh
spies6Kirsten (6:49:55 PM): I didn't vote for her
spies6levi (6:49:57 PM): 3 for Gretcehn
spies6levi (6:49:59 PM): 2 for Mirela
spies6levi (7:33:15 PM): This is shit
spies6levi (7:33:19 PM): We're not Spies together
spies6Kirsten (7:33:28 PM): no, we most certainly are not
spies6levi (7:45:25 PM): What's she saying in there?
spies6Kirsten (7:45:35 PM): Mirela stopped talking when you left
spies6levi (7:46:26 PM): This is not fun
spies6Kirsten (7:46:39 PM): I'm going to scour the game

[Kirsten]

spies6jenya (5:44:31 PM): Hi.
spies6Kirsten (5:44:37 PM): hi
spies6Kirsten (5:48:21 PM): can you explain the events of last episode to me?
spies6Kirsten (5:48:34 PM): I haven't caught up on the board yet
spies6jenya (5:48:49 PM): You voted Boris and left
spies6jenya (5:48:54 PM): Pete said he was voting Boris
spies6jenya (5:48:58 PM): Then voted Gretchen and left
spies6jenya (5:49:21 PM): In the morning, word was Levi on Boris, Jason on Georgia, Georgia on anyone but Boris
spies6jenya (5:49:28 PM): Gretchen on Boris for self-preservation
spies6jenya (5:49:37 PM): Mirela on I think Boris, I forget.
spies6jenya (5:50:08 PM): And I came back a few minutes before exile, checked all the cases again, wavered about 10 times, and voted Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (5:50:08 PM): Why was Mirela on Boris?
spies6jenya (5:50:13 PM): More on that later.
spies6Kirsten (5:50:27 PM): She told me she wanted Gretchen gone
spies6jenya (5:50:33 PM): I think I recall that too.
spies6jenya (5:50:36 PM): So anyhow
spies6jenya (5:50:41 PM): You saw the vote count?
spies6Kirsten (5:50:44 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (5:50:47 PM): Boris 4
spies6jenya (5:50:50 PM): Gretchen 3
spies6jenya (5:50:53 PM): Jenya 2
spies6Kirsten (5:50:56 PM): Why did Boris vote you
spies6jenya (5:51:04 PM): Either Boris or Georgia could have swung it, and they were both Cits.
spies6jenya (5:51:15 PM): No clue, I poste da bunch of posts in the Boris = Spy thread that morning
spies6jenya (5:51:24 PM): But my conclusions were meh, I wasn't sold.
spies6jenya (5:51:43 PM): I was not positive but I thought my Gretchen vote would exile her.
spies6jenya (5:51:55 PM): Because I assumed Boris and/or Georgia were on her.
spies6Kirsten (5:51:56 PM): what made you choose Gretchen?
spies6jenya (5:52:05 PM): I narrowed it down to those two
spies6Kirsten (5:52:11 PM): Boris/Gretchen?
spies6jenya (5:52:12 PM): Process of elimination to some extent.
spies6jenya (5:52:13 PM): Yes.
spies6jenya (5:52:23 PM): And I did a pretty thorough read of Boris.
spies6Kirsten (5:52:24 PM): yeah, taht's what I did, although I regret going Boris over Gretchen
spies6jenya (5:52:37 PM): Found a lot of spy tells, a few cit tells
spies6jenya (5:52:51 PM): Ultimately went with my gut over a few issues
spies6jenya (5:52:55 PM): Like his reaction to Amelia
spies6jenya (5:52:57 PM): exile
spies6Kirsten (5:53:02 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (5:53:08 PM): His reaction to me testing him a few times
spies6Kirsten (5:53:17 PM): I thought you called that spyish
spies6jenya (5:53:23 PM): Ultimately I decided not
spies6jenya (5:53:26 PM): Because
spies6Kirsten (5:53:27 PM): what changed?
spies6jenya (5:53:34 PM): Why the hell would a spy even say that
spies6jenya (5:53:38 PM): "try to catch me up"
spies6jenya (5:53:44 PM): They'd just say "no i didnt know"
spies6jenya (5:53:52 PM): Like Levi does when I test him like that
spies6Kirsten (5:54:09 PM): I guess I'll respond "try to catch me up" when you atempt to test me
spies6jenya (5:54:15 PM): Yeah so much for that plan
spies6Kirsten (5:54:17 PM): get myself some +cit :-)
spies6jenya (5:54:22 PM): Anyhow, I read EVERYTHING
spies6jenya (5:54:24 PM): for Boris
spies6jenya (5:54:43 PM): And also recalled Yvette was neutral on him, Rey strongly Cit on him
spies6Kirsten (5:54:53 PM): Yvette voted him in 3
spies6jenya (5:54:56 PM): Khaled suspected him a little I think but not much
spies6jenya (5:55:07 PM): Did she? My chats show her neutral on him
spies6Kirsten (5:55:12 PM): she did
spies6jenya (5:55:19 PM): So you saw my episode 12 thingy
spies6jenya (5:55:23 PM): or 11 or whatever
spies6Kirsten (5:55:31 PM): I'm not caught up
spies6jenya (5:55:39 PM): The collage of old opinions from Rey, Yvette and Khaled?
spies6Kirsten (5:55:51 PM): I saw it, but didn't read it.
spies6Kirsten (5:56:07 PM): I need to spend like 3 hours reading through everything I've missed.
spies6Kirsten (5:56:14 PM): but I'm struggling to motivate myself to do it...
spies6jenya (5:57:04 PM): I'll wait to question you until after you catch up.
spies6jenya (5:57:17 PM): Will you be on for a while?
spies6Kirsten (5:57:28 PM): I'm thinking of just pulling a Tiberius and voting Gretchen and no amount of logic will convince this Kirsten otherwise
spies6Kirsten (5:57:36 PM): yeah, I should be
spies6Kirsten (5:59:20 PM): actually, I'm secong guessing my read of Mirela based on Georgia
spies6jenya (5:59:27 PM): Why?
spies6Kirsten (5:59:45 PM): Georgia's top 3 suspects were you/me/mirela
spies6Kirsten (6:00:04 PM): Although, I don't think she really suspected me that seriously...she never questioned me at all, pretty much throughout the entirety of the game.
spies6jenya (6:01:28 PM): She had a Levi-Kirsten connection ready to go.
spies6Kirsten (6:01:53 PM): when did that come about?
spies6jenya (6:02:17 PM): Not sure, looking for the clip now.
spies6Kirsten (6:03:16 PM): spies6Georgia (6:06:40 PM): I think Mirela is a spy; because she basically protected Amelia for a couple of episodes; based on faulty logic. Which is inconsistent with what she said during episode 6. Her reasons for hiding her case on Thor, was based on faulty logic. Her reasons for suspecting Thor are inconsistent.
spies6Georgia (6:08:13 PM): I think one of you and Jenya are a spy. Because I just can't believe that both of you are citizen; mostly because of events since Iris' exile. Though I've suspected Jenya for awhile.
spies6Kirsten (6:03:50 PM): spies6Kirsten (7:19:32 PM): who are the last two spies?
spies6Georgia (7:19:38 PM): Good question
spies6Georgia (7:19:50 PM): I think one of you and Jenya is a possible spy.
spies6Georgia (7:19:54 PM): I also think Mirela is a spy.
spies6jenya (6:04:17 PM): Right
spies6jenya (6:04:44 PM): That's essentially what I got.
spies6jenya (6:04:49 PM): And she voted me, so she was leaning me.
spies6jenya (6:04:56 PM): And she was stupid and wrong.
spies6jenya (6:05:15 PM): I had a long talk with her the other day asking for her analysis of me
spies6jenya (6:05:23 PM): Asked for + points and - points
spies6jenya (6:05:53 PM): She pretty much refused to list or acknowledge any confirmatory evidence that I'm a cit.
spies6jenya (6:06:05 PM): So I'm wary of her conclusions on you as well.
spies6jenya (6:06:09 PM): That being said...
spies6jenya (6:06:24 PM): If we take Pete and Jason out of the equation for their voting record
spies6jenya (6:06:33 PM): That leaves you, Gretchen, Mirela, Levi
spies6Kirsten (6:06:47 PM): I'm not sure about eliminating Pete quite yet
spies6jenya (6:06:51 PM): I'm not either
spies6jenya (6:06:52 PM): But
spies6jenya (6:07:07 PM): I wouldn't exile him unless some damned good evidence shows.
spies6Kirsten (6:07:08 PM): who did you make immune?
spies6jenya (6:07:18 PM): I was just going to ask you that.
spies6Kirsten (6:07:31 PM): beat you to it, lalalala
spies6jenya (6:07:34 PM): :/
spies6Kirsten (6:07:41 PM): so...?
spies6jenya (6:07:45 PM): Ok, so don't let anyone know.
spies6jenya (6:08:21 PM): If you, Jason or Levi are spies the gig is up but I want to test Mirela, Gretchen and Pete with that info.
spies6jenya (6:08:41 PM): So I'm not going to say who I protected just yet til I test everyone.
spies6Kirsten (6:08:46 PM): ok
spies6jenya (6:08:48 PM): For obvious reasons.
spies6Kirsten (6:08:59 PM): I think the last 2 are in that group of 3
spies6jenya (6:09:14 PM): Mirela, Gretchen, Pete?
spies6Kirsten (6:09:25 PM): yep
spies6jenya (6:09:38 PM): Did Levi question you much last week?
spies6Kirsten (6:09:53 PM): last week was his "I'm going to lead an exile on Kirsten" week
spies6jenya (6:10:01 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (6:10:17 PM): Did he ask you anything that would lead you to believe he was vetting you?
spies6Kirsten (6:10:57 PM): I'll haev to look back
spies6jenya (6:11:06 PM): Did you get the sense he was building a case on you?
spies6jenya (6:11:11 PM): Or was that empty talk from him?
spies6Kirsten (6:12:23 PM): He started going through episode by episode
spies6Kirsten (6:12:30 PM): and I stopped him episode 1
spies6Kirsten (6:12:34 PM): and he then stopped
spies6jenya (6:12:37 PM): lol
spies6jenya (8:33:13 PM): You and I should talk extensively. Will you be around?
spies6Kirsten (8:33:24 PM): when?
spies6jenya (8:33:30 PM): I dunno, tonight/tomorrow.
spies6Kirsten (8:33:44 PM): another 1.5-2 hours tonight
spies6jenya (8:33:49 PM): Sam kind of screwed us here. I really feel like he wants Gretchen exiled.
spies6jenya (8:33:51 PM): Ok.
spies6jenya (8:33:54 PM): I'll be back.
spies6Kirsten (8:33:54 PM): how so?
spies6Kirsten (8:34:00 PM): bye
spies6jenya (8:34:09 PM): 1.75 days to deliberate an exile?
spies6jenya (8:34:14 PM): Isn't that the shortest yet?
spies6jenya (8:34:21 PM): Lame.
spies6jenya (8:34:29 PM): Mirela and Gretchen probably won';t even be on.
spies6jenya (8:34:40 PM): See if you can drag them into a group chat and watch people go at it.
spies6jenya (8:34:55 PM): We might be able to spot two spies faking attacking each other.
spies6Kirsten (8:35:06 PM): that would be nice
spies6jenya (8:35:12 PM): back soon
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spies6jenya (9:26:39 PM): Hey.
spies6Kirsten (9:26:51 PM): hi
spies6jenya (9:27:02 PM): Got a little time?
spies6Kirsten (9:27:57 PM): sure
spies6jenya (9:28:12 PM): Ok, so all game long I've viewed you as a likely spy.
spies6jenya (9:28:25 PM): But one I wouldn't risk exiling til the end.
spies6Kirsten (9:28:40 PM): right
spies6jenya (9:28:41 PM): At this point, I think I need to drop that and just talk to you assuming you're a Cit.
spies6jenya (9:28:51 PM): Just because
spies6jenya (9:29:06 PM): I may have mentally-blocked myself from some possible spy possibilities.
spies6jenya (9:29:24 PM): I still suspect you, but I want to drop that for the purposes of this talk.
spies6Kirsten (9:29:27 PM): ok
spies6jenya (9:29:37 PM): So my first huge worry is Jason.
spies6Kirsten (9:29:45 PM): he's a worry of mine as well
spies6jenya (9:29:47 PM): Even though I've protected him and trusted him.
spies6jenya (9:30:01 PM): It's by far the most obvious explanation for why I'm still alive.
spies6jenya (9:30:18 PM): Because if he drags me to the final three he thinks he has me.
spies6jenya (9:30:51 PM): So blocking out anything I've raised about Jason
spies6jenya (9:30:58 PM): What's your independent opinion of him?
spies6Kirsten (9:31:09 PM): mixed
spies6Kirsten (9:31:18 PM): He's lurky
spies6Kirsten (9:31:22 PM): lurks in chat rooms
spies6Kirsten (9:31:48 PM): I feel the Consensus exile was somewhat shady
spies6Kirsten (9:31:58 PM): him placing Rey and Amelia as at the same level, but Rey slghtly higher
spies6Kirsten (9:32:13 PM): it looked like a "I could go either way, depending on the way the wind goes" stance
spies6Kirsten (9:32:40 PM): I'm bothered by Amelia voting him for the role investigation, because of how shady she was regarding that whole deal.
spies6Kirsten (9:33:00 PM): And I'm bothered by Khaled's "yes" result
spies6jenya (9:33:10 PM): She was shady about the role investigation?
spies6Kirsten (9:33:14 PM): That would be my list of Jason grievances
spies6Kirsten (9:33:37 PM): I asked her who she voted, and she said Jason, but her reasoning was Rey telling her Jason was someone who could be trusted based on some post in the burg
spies6Kirsten (9:33:56 PM): If she trusted Rey enough to vote Jason because Rey thought Jason could be trusted, then why not just vote Rey for it?
spies6jenya (9:34:08 PM): Solid point.
spies6jenya (9:34:16 PM): Did Rey vote Jason?
spies6Kirsten (9:34:29 PM): I can't remember, actually
spies6Kirsten (9:34:33 PM): Let me check
spies6jenya (9:34:34 PM): Because if he did
spies6jenya (9:34:39 PM): Then Amelia's vote made more sense.
spies6jenya (9:34:45 PM): As a "go with the flow" thing
spies6Kirsten (9:35:16 PM): spies6rey (9:48:23 PM):i already told ellis, didn't he tell you? spies6rey (9:48:26 PM):i wanted HIM to have it. spies6rey (9:48:29 PM):i voted him.
spies6jenya (9:36:01 PM): Whoa.
spies6Kirsten (9:36:02 PM): Rey voted Ellis
spies6jenya (9:36:10 PM): That's bizarre.
spies6jenya (9:36:17 PM): When did you get Amelia's info?
spies6Kirsten (9:36:24 PM): the night we discussed
spies6Kirsten (9:36:28 PM): her immunity
spies6jenya (9:36:36 PM): Rey was dead.
spies6jenya (9:36:41 PM): Right?
spies6Kirsten (9:36:44 PM): by that point, yes
spies6Kirsten (9:36:46 PM): it was episode 9
spies6jenya (9:36:58 PM): Ok, so Jason voted Amelia above Levi and Donald at 4.
spies6Kirsten (9:37:05 PM): yes
spies6jenya (9:37:07 PM): This is down the stretch at 5:
spies6jenya (9:37:07 PM): spies6jenya (5:34:28 PM): Can we push anyone besides Faith?
spies6jenya (5:34:36 PM): To test people out and see who they might switch to?
sPIEs6Jason (5:35:23 PM): Well, I'm all for trying
sPIEs6Jason (5:36:44 PM): but who? Amelia would be my choice -_-
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spies6jenya (5:59:26 PM): She's terrible. Almost too terrible to be a spy.
spies6jenya (5:59:34 PM): Did you see the post I just made about her?
sPIEs6Jason (5:59:39 PM): Key word is almsot... but perhaps you're right
spies6jenya (9:37:56 PM): spies6jenya (6:25:16 PM): Jason, do you feel anyone pushing this exile?
spies6jenya (6:25:25 PM): Like any pressure or horsetrading at all?
sPIEs6Jason (6:25:31 PM): Kirsten and Rey seem to be pushing William
spies6jenya (6:25:42 PM): I haven't talked to Kirsten. She's around?
spies6jenya (6:26:00 PM): Because I really think that if Faith vs William was one cit one spy
spies6jenya (6:26:10 PM): There'd be a lot more interest and pressure feel, like last week.,
spies6jenya (9:38:21 PM): Ok, you there?
spies6Kirsten (9:38:38 PM): yes
spies6jenya (9:38:40 PM): Here's the part of the chat I didn't have and he just PMed it to me.
spies6jenya (9:38:47 PM): I was at a bar on cell phone
spies6jenya (9:38:51 PM): sPIEs6Jason (8:17:19 PM): So.... it looks like the heat is off William now
spies6jenya (9:37:05 PM): i'm voting iris!
spies6jenya (9:39:05 PM): sPIEs6Jason (9:37:37 PM): I don't think I am... too many people are saying "Zomg yes, Iris, of course!" and nobody's saying "no!"
spies6jenya (9:38:33 PM): well shit.
spies6jenya (9:39:22 PM): well shit.
spies6jenya (9:39:31 PM): spies6jenya (9:39:30 PM): change my vote back to faith im at a bar
sPIEs6Jason (9:40:30 PM): Lol
sPIEs6Jason (9:40:47 PM): Have fun at the bar! I wish I were at one right now... I'm not sure that I'm voting Faith either...
spies6jenya (9:39:45 PM): sPIEs6Jason (9:47:35 PM): Iris just claimed a role FYI.... I'm so lost
spies6jenya (9:51:27 PM): well one of these roles has to be spy...
sPIEs6Jason (9:51:38 PM): Oh I know, there's NO way there's this many roles
spies6jenya (9:51:44 PM): what did she claim?
sPIEs6Jason (9:53:09 PM): Anonymous Benefactor, she gave three gifts to people at the beginning of the game, before allignments were announced
spies6jenya (9:40:07 PM): spies6jenya (10:35:35 PM): Well, there it goes.
sPIEs6Jason (10:35:53 PM): Yeah...
sPIEs6Jason (10:35:55 PM): So
sPIEs6Jason (10:36:12 PM): We need to get William on Iris... but do we even trust William? -_- I dont yet
spies6jenya (10:36:36 PM): That's a good call... but I don't know if he'll ever get that investigation.
sPIEs6Jason (10:37:27 PM): I hope he does... We've got to ask him for sure if he has any other way to get them
spies6jenya (10:41:02 PM): His role is spyish and so is Iris's
spies6jenya (9:40:27 PM): sPIEs6Jason (10:41:13 PM): They could be Spies together
sPIEs6Jason (10:41:20 PM): ...
sPIEs6Jason (10:41:32 PM): And she role claims knowing he told us, hoping he'd "confirm" her
spies6jenya (10:45:05 PM): Possiblt.. there's one too many claimed role roght now
sPIEs6Jason (10:46:15 PM): Yeah, we have... you, me, Khaled, William, Iris
spies6jenya (9:41:00 PM): spies6jenya (11:04:15 PM): When did you get your role?
spies6jenya (11:04:17 PM): From Sam?
sPIEs6Jason (11:04:33 PM): After the first chat, like a day or 2 later...
sPIEs6Jason (11:04:36 PM): I can check on the date
spies6jenya (11:04:44 PM): It's kind of cheating to ask her that
spies6jenya (11:04:48 PM): But lol...
sPIEs6Jason (11:04:52 PM): Yeah....
sPIEs6Jason (11:04:57 PM): She said... before allignment right?
spies6jenya (11:05:13 PM): I don't know
sPIEs6Jason (11:05:48 PM): May 18th for me
spies6jenya (11:07:12 PM): Yup.
spies6Kirsten (9:43:28 PM): why would Jason claim to you if he's a spy? Why would he know the citizen role powerup? Why would he make known his role investigation result on Khaled/
spies6jenya (9:43:33 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (9:43:43 PM): He knows the date we got roles.
spies6jenya (9:43:48 PM): He knew the # of powerups.
spies6jenya (9:43:59 PM): (Spies knew the "doubled" part.)
spies6jenya (9:44:27 PM): It just kills me to think he MIGHT be a spy that said "play everything just like a Cit"
spies6jenya (9:44:34 PM): but meh
spies6Kirsten (9:44:47 PM): when someone looks like a citizen
spies6Kirsten (9:44:51 PM): the most likely explanation is that they are one
spies6jenya (9:44:53 PM): I did that Jason = Spy thread and came up with very little
spies6jenya (9:45:04 PM): It's just so bizarre that he's still around.
spies6Kirsten (9:45:09 PM): he's not catching spies
spies6jenya (9:45:11 PM): The spies KNOW I've been protecting him forever.
spies6jenya (9:45:18 PM): True.
spies6Kirsten (9:45:22 PM): I think the spies are imprisoning people based on suspicions
spies6Kirsten (9:45:26 PM): and his role is not doing anything
spies6jenya (9:45:35 PM): But that would mean
spies6jenya (9:45:38 PM): You or me = spy
spies6jenya (9:45:43 PM): Based on recent activity.
spies6jenya (9:45:48 PM): Or Mirela, I suppose.
spies6Kirsten (9:45:48 PM): or Mirela
spies6jenya (9:45:51 PM): Ugh.
spies6Kirsten (9:45:56 PM): I'm not sure on Levi
spies6Kirsten (9:46:03 PM): I'm suspicious of how quickly he backed off of me
spies6jenya (9:46:07 PM): How did his questioning of you feel tonight?
spies6jenya (9:46:09 PM): Yes.
spies6jenya (9:46:17 PM): It's like he got bored
spies6jenya (9:46:21 PM): Of going through the motions
spies6jenya (9:46:25 PM): Or something
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spies6jenya (9:46:45 PM): By the way, I loved your story.
spies6jenya (9:46:49 PM): Fab.
spies6Kirsten (9:46:49 PM): :-)
spies6jenya (9:47:09 PM): Any more thoughts on Jason?
spies6Kirsten (9:47:12 PM): I enjoyed making it. I wanted to make the writing better, but I really was pressed on time.
spies6jenya (9:47:28 PM): Yeah, I was tight on time and I wanted to do an apology thing to Khaled/Rey/Yvette.
spies6jenya (9:47:33 PM): It was the best I could do.
spies6Kirsten (9:48:00 PM): I read it. I think you covered their thoughts pretty well
spies6Kirsten (9:48:09 PM): I was actually reading through those now
spies6Kirsten (9:48:12 PM): haven't gotten to Levi's or Jason's
spies6jenya (9:48:36 PM): Holy shit Pete's thing is funny.
spies6Kirsten (9:48:47 PM): yeah, Pete's was great
spies6Kirsten (9:50:28 PM): As for jason
spies6Kirsten (9:50:31 PM): that's about it
spies6jenya (9:50:44 PM): How bout Gretchen?
spies6jenya (9:50:54 PM): Like I said, Sam giving us two days only
spies6jenya (9:51:05 PM): Seems like a "vote the retard, retards!" thing.
spies6Kirsten (9:51:20 PM): yeah...perhaps
spies6Kirsten (9:51:27 PM): Gretchen reminds me of Amelia
spies6Kirsten (9:51:35 PM): a lot of places where she's been shady, but also looks cit
spies6Kirsten (9:51:49 PM): like I overlooked Amelia asking questions to Ariel who was dead
spies6jenya (9:51:55 PM): lol
spies6Kirsten (9:51:57 PM): things like that, which are realy fishy
spies6jenya (9:52:06 PM): That's such terrible spy play.
spies6jenya (9:52:17 PM): Draw attention to yourself to play some stupid reverse psych trick?
spies6Kirsten (9:52:25 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (9:52:33 PM): Amelia was pretty on the ball though
spies6Kirsten (9:52:35 PM): I should have known
spies6Kirsten (9:52:43 PM): she didn't miss a whole lot for how little she was around
spies6jenya (9:52:47 PM): Right.
spies6Kirsten (9:52:53 PM): why would she miss that?
spies6jenya (9:52:56 PM): I had her as likely Cit the first 3-4 episodes.
spies6jenya (9:53:02 PM): And #12 on my list of 23
spies6jenya (9:53:22 PM): She was like the 2nd most suspicious "probable cit"
spies6jenya (9:53:38 PM): We should compare those real quick, see if we're missing anything
spies6jenya (9:53:45 PM): Just the top picks if you like.
spies6Kirsten (9:54:34 PM): Donald 1
spies6jenya (9:54:35 PM): My first was:
spies6jenya (9:54:36 PM): 1: Georgia
2: William
3: Faith
4: Khaled
5: Amelia
6: Kirsten
7: Iris
8: Boris
9: Donald
10: Levi
11: Oswald
--possibly spies, but valuable if cits---
12: Ariel
13: Rey
---probably not spies---
14: Ed
15: Gretchen
16: Thor
17: Mirela
18: Tiberius
19: Pete
20: Roxy
21: Ellis
22: Jason
spies6jenya (9:54:51 PM): And then I revised significantly to:
spies6jenya (9:54:51 PM): reordered to make it easier for me to modify:

1: Georgia
2: Iris
3: Faith
4: Khaled
5: Donald
6: Kirsten
7: Boris
8: Levi
--possibly spies, but valuable if cits---
9: Ariel
10: Rey
---probably not spies---
11: William
12: Amelia
13: Ed
14: Gretchen
15: Thor
16: Tiberius
17: Roxy
18: Mirela
19: Pete
20: Ellis
21: Oswald
22: Jason
spies6Kirsten (9:55:19 PM): once I got to like 12 I stopped caring
spies6Kirsten (9:55:36 PM): Actually, I had Iris as number 2, lol, I forgot about that
spies6jenya (9:55:46 PM): You too?
spies6Kirsten (9:55:47 PM): I swapped Ed out cause of his "i'm going to be imprisoned" thing
spies6jenya (9:56:43 PM): My 2nd one is like 11am jun 6th, i think that's a saturday
spies6Kirsten (9:56:43 PM): Donald, Iris, Boris, Faith, Levi, Ed, Mirela, Oswald, Khaled, William, Thor, Pete, Ariel, Amelia
spies6jenya (9:57:23 PM): Not too different from mine.
spies6jenya (9:57:31 PM): No Gretchen,.
spies6Kirsten (9:57:48 PM): I put her 18th
spies6jenya (9:57:50 PM): Jason and Pete way down
spies6jenya (9:58:04 PM): Levi right on the border of spy/Cit.
spies6Kirsten (9:58:10 PM): She wasn't that much of a cit, but I didn't want to vote her, because others suspected her and were planning to vote her
spies6jenya (9:58:59 PM): I think I was still giving her credit for being the Jaya alternative.
spies6jenya (9:59:13 PM): Which I'm not super sure merits as much cred as I gave it.
spies6jenya (9:59:18 PM): What do you think?
spies6Kirsten (9:59:20 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (9:59:22 PM): it doesn't
spies6jenya (9:59:33 PM): You said it had hints of spy vs. spy.
spies6Kirsten (9:59:34 PM): it has to be examined in context
spies6Kirsten (9:59:56 PM): like normally, one would just say "2 candidates, the one that was exiled was a spy, so the other is a cit"
spies6Kirsten (10:00:06 PM): but Jaya was a last minute deal
spies6Kirsten (10:00:15 PM): and Jaya didn't vote Gretchen (she might not have known)
spies6Kirsten (10:00:30 PM): Donald swapped suspiciously form Roxy-cit to Gretchen
spies6jenya (10:00:44 PM): Actually, let me check the group chat again to see if Jaya really said "Someone switch to Ed?"
spies6Kirsten (10:00:46 PM): and it looked like he did that after I told him I was voting Gretchen
spies6jenya (10:01:08 PM): By the way, if we assume we're both Cits, Levi is our consensus exile from those exile 4 vote lists.
spies6jenya (10:01:28 PM): Followed by Mirela/Gretchen tied for 2nd.
spies6jenya (10:01:38 PM): But a lot's happened since.
spies6Kirsten (10:01:45 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (10:01:53 PM): If you're a spy
spies6jenya (10:01:56 PM): Wait
spies6jenya (10:02:00 PM): I cant say that.
spies6Kirsten (10:02:04 PM): meh
spies6Kirsten (10:02:07 PM): whatever, say it
spies6jenya (10:02:08 PM): Not tonight. :-)
spies6jenya (10:02:24 PM): I was just going to say if you're a spy, you do an AMAZING job of not letting all these details bore you.
spies6Kirsten (10:02:33 PM): hahaha
spies6jenya (10:02:34 PM): You just keep on lookin.
spies6Kirsten (10:02:48 PM): I would be so much lazier as a spy
spies6jenya (10:03:30 PM): Back to Cit teamwork!
spies6jenya (10:03:50 PM): So Gretchen.. your one piece of Cit evidence for her is that she flipped her vote on Donald?
spies6jenya (10:03:55 PM): to Donald, sorry.
spies6Kirsten (10:03:57 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (10:04:01 PM): you've asked me that before :-)
spies6Kirsten (10:04:07 PM): I don't think that's cit evidence
spies6Kirsten (10:04:10 PM): I consider that more spyish
spies6jenya (10:04:16 PM): I'm trying to recall your one piece
spies6Kirsten (10:04:29 PM): Donald and her interactions episode 1 via PM sending and receiving
spies6jenya (10:04:33 PM): k
spies6Kirsten (10:06:29 PM): if we look at player's interactions with spies:
spies6Kirsten (10:06:58 PM): Mirela has connections to Iris
spies6Kirsten (10:07:03 PM): and Amelia
spies6Kirsten (10:07:21 PM): Levi has connections to Iris
spies6Kirsten (10:07:38 PM): I have connections to Donald, Iris, Amelia
spies6Kirsten (10:07:54 PM): Gretchen has connections with Donald
spies6Kirsten (10:08:03 PM): ignored Amelia completely
spies6Kirsten (10:08:28 PM): Jason has ... not really any
spies6Kirsten (10:08:33 PM): connections with Amelia
spies6jenya (10:08:46 PM): Nope, I get no sense that he was friends with Iris, Donald or Amelia
spies6jenya (10:09:16 PM): Gretchen has no connections to Iris that you know of?
spies6jenya (10:09:21 PM): She has connections to Jaya
spies6Kirsten (10:09:24 PM): yes
spies6Kirsten (10:09:29 PM): I forgot that
spies6Kirsten (10:09:29 PM): she does
spies6Kirsten (10:09:48 PM): her connections to Iris are a brief bit in a chat we had where we discuss Iris' confessional post
spies6jenya (10:10:39 PM): Here, she thought I was talking about Imprisonment:
spies6jenya (10:10:40 PM): spies6jenya (9:42:05 PM):Hey, hi there, quick question if you have a chance, whenever. Who would you make immune from exile this episode?spies6gretchen2 (9:42:49 PM):hmmmmmm. jason or yourself i think. jason must be a cit.
spies6jenya (10:11:00 PM): spies6gretchen2 (9:43:48 PM):next choice would probably be kirsten.
spies6jenya (10:11:11 PM): spies6gretchen2 (9:44:26 PM):i don't see why she would make me switch off william onto donald if she was a spy. i could have stayed on william and donald wouldn't have got the votes needed to get exiled. spies6gretchen2 (9:44:42 PM):that's the only real, concrete piece of citizenship i can come up with.
spies6jenya (10:11:24 PM): spies6gretchen2 (9:44:56 PM):if she said nothing, she could have said nothing. if that makes sense.
spies6jenya (10:11:51 PM): spies6gretchen2 (9:45:54 PM):georgia still has some more stuff needed to clear her in my book. mirela the same. you don't need to protect me because i will probably get exiled next anyway!
spies6jenya (10:12:18 PM): spies6jenya (9:46:53 PM):So you wouldn't suggest that I protect you?spies6gretchen2 (9:47:28 PM):i don't think you need to. everyone will probably vote me next round. well, mirela, pete and boris have all said they're going to. that's 3 already. spies6gretchen2 (9:47:41 PM):so i don't think i will be imprisoned.
spies6jenya (10:13:47 PM): spies6jenya (9:48:01 PM):This is an exile immunityspies6jenya (9:48:04 PM):I'm deciding onspies6gretchen2 (9:48:39 PM):ahhh ok. well i think then yes you should protect me. sorry i thought you were protecting from imprisonment! lol! no wonder you and jason are safe!
spies6jenya (10:13:54 PM): Actually, wait a sec.
spies6jenya (10:14:02 PM): Still there?
spies6Kirsten (10:14:06 PM): yes
spies6jenya (10:14:16 PM): She shows NO doubt I'm the Impris protector, right?
spies6jenya (10:14:45 PM): She rattles along that whole time under the assumption that I Impris protect.
spies6Kirsten (10:15:06 PM): I don't think that's very conclusive
spies6Kirsten (10:15:28 PM): I mean, you asked me earlier in the game who you should protect, and I would tell you anyway, whether or not I believed it.
spies6jenya (10:15:29 PM): No, but
spies6jenya (10:15:46 PM): spies6gretchen2 (9:46:51 PM):you could, but you've also done some good so whoever you choose, i wouldn't be too worried about it. people will judge and yell and act like tools, but truth be told you're one of the best players left in the game. so try and remember that. hindsight is a wonderful thing too!
spies6jenya (10:15:56 PM): spies6jenya (9:42:05 PM):Hey, hi there, quick question if you have a chance, whenever. Who would you make immune from exile this episode?spies6gretchen2 (9:42:49 PM):hmmmmmm. jason or yourself i think. jason must be a cit.
spies6jenya (10:16:06 PM): She suggests right off that I protect myself from Impris
spies6jenya (10:16:17 PM): Says I'm a very good player blah blah blah
spies6jenya (10:16:26 PM): Then yesterday:
spies6jenya (10:16:50 PM): Dear JenyaSpy,

Ummmmm.... Boris got exiled. Not me. Le derrr. But of course you already know I'm a Cit hey???

Sucks to be you right now.
spies6jenya (10:17:05 PM): What's your take on that flip?
spies6Kirsten (10:17:15 PM): pretty fishy
spies6Kirsten (10:17:23 PM): then again, I've done some serious flips too
spies6Kirsten (10:17:43 PM): what was the point of that post by the way?
spies6jenya (10:17:59 PM): The farewell Gretchen?
spies6Kirsten (10:18:13 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (10:18:21 PM): do/did you think she was a cit?
spies6jenya (10:18:43 PM): It was a shot across the bow of the S.S. Jolly Fat Gretchen
spies6jenya (10:18:48 PM): If she's a Cit.
spies6jenya (10:19:13 PM): That she should get her fat ass playing the game before she gets exiled and screws us all over.
spies6jenya (10:19:34 PM): It just really frustrates me because I "agonized" over that Boris Gretchen decision
spies6jenya (10:19:51 PM): And I wanted Boris to stay and Gretchen to go.
spies6jenya (10:20:14 PM): Because she has pretty much nothing to help us properly evaluate her alignment.
spies6jenya (10:20:18 PM): Very little.
spies6Kirsten (10:20:38 PM): I was glad to take a 3 day break from the game, but I also wish I could have been around to see things play out and maybe change my vote accordingly
spies6jenya (10:20:44 PM): By the way
spies6jenya (10:20:52 PM): Gretchen posted in the goodbye thread
spies6jenya (10:20:53 PM): Jenya:
This one disappoints me greatly. You were becoming one of the most prominent members of the Burg, and I am enjoying reading all your contributions. It's a shame you're gone. Fingers-crossed your final words keep the Town on track.
spies6jenya (10:20:57 PM): We never talked.
spies6Kirsten (10:21:29 PM): nice
spies6Kirsten (10:21:44 PM): Gretchen needs to deliver her 12 page deal tomorrow
spies6Kirsten (10:22:07 PM): she should post what she has so far
spies6Kirsten (10:24:41 PM): Levi's early game interactions with Donald are bothersome
spies6jenya (10:24:48 PM): Oh?
spies6jenya (10:24:58 PM): Should we move on to Levi from Gretchen?
spies6Kirsten (10:25:12 PM): We can discuss Gretchen further
spies6jenya (10:25:29 PM): I don't know how much Gretchen there is to discuss
spies6jenya (10:25:35 PM): Beyond the obvious girth.
spies6Kirsten (10:25:53 PM): what is your take on her ignoring Amelia?
spies6Kirsten (10:25:56 PM): to stick on Levi?
spies6jenya (10:26:28 PM): Hmm.
spies6jenya (10:26:47 PM): As I recall, her argument was "inconsistencies"
spies6jenya (10:26:59 PM): basically carried from the old Leave Eye thread episode 3 or so?
spies6jenya (10:27:03 PM): Nothing recent?
spies6Kirsten (10:27:08 PM): I don't think so
spies6jenya (10:27:55 PM): Like every one of her farewell posts
spies6jenya (10:28:03 PM): Has a tinge of "see I'm not a spy"
spies6jenya (10:28:19 PM): Iris:
Hehehehe. No surprises here. Well done to the Citizens. I thought you were a bit odd ever since you posted that Confessional
spies6jenya (10:28:48 PM): Faith: I don't quite know why you were exiled...
spies6Kirsten (10:29:25 PM): this game has too much information
spies6Kirsten (10:29:39 PM): I think I would have caught all the spies by now if it was played solely on the burg
spies6Kirsten (10:30:13 PM): along that same note\
spies6jenya (10:32:56 PM): Amelia did nothing for a long time.
spies6jenya (10:33:03 PM): Gretchen's doing nothing for a loong time.
spies6jenya (10:33:08 PM): Bleh.
spies6jenya (10:33:15 PM): Not sufficient evidence I suppose but
spies6Kirsten (10:33:38 PM): "
Oh, and congrats to the team for getting a Spy Round One - it's my understanding that's the first time in the series - you guys did good! "
spies6Kirsten (10:33:44 PM): that bothers me
spies6jenya (10:33:52 PM): "you guys"
spies6jenya (10:34:05 PM): meaning our little group of 11 I suppose.
spies6jenya (10:34:12 PM): What bugs you about it?
spies6Kirsten (10:34:43 PM): just doesn't feel sincere
spies6Kirsten (10:35:17 PM): it was like the reaction of Donald to Jaya's exile
spies6jenya (10:35:35 PM): lol the totally flat
spies6jenya (10:35:38 PM): "alright woo hoo"
spies6jenya (10:35:40 PM): or whatever?
spies6Kirsten (10:35:41 PM): "Cool. Jaya was a spy. Awesome. That makes me happy. Yes."
spies6jenya (10:35:51 PM): Contrasted with mirela's
spies6jenya (10:35:54 PM): later gator
spies6jenya (10:35:57 PM): and
spies6jenya (10:36:00 PM): cya never
spies6jenya (10:36:02 PM): LOL!
spies6jenya (10:36:27 PM): You know, Mirela's going to make the final three and we'll be doomed.
spies6Kirsten (10:37:07 PM): I'm wondering if Gretchen's push on Levi is a "I'm fucked, so I'll try to distance before I go down" ploy
spies6jenya (10:37:18 PM): Could be. It's pretty weak if so.
spies6jenya (10:37:20 PM): spies6amelia (11:18:33 PM):I def thought Ariel was a Spyspies6amelia (11:18:39 PM):then I have Boris and Mirelaspies6amelia (11:18:43 PM)spies6amelia (11:18:53 PM):I know you and Mirela are close-ish
spies6jenya (10:37:30 PM): Is that unusual awareness?
spies6jenya (10:37:33 PM): For Amelia?
spies6Kirsten (10:37:52 PM): was that in a chat with me?
spies6jenya (10:38:01 PM): I've probably posted that to you.
spies6Kirsten (10:38:15 PM): who was she talking to
spies6Kirsten (10:38:16 PM): you?
spies6jenya (10:38:19 PM): I think so.
spies6jenya (10:38:25 PM): Cause I'm the one protecting Mirela.
spies6Kirsten (10:39:38 PM): Do you think she still doesn't understand the difference between Exile and Imprisonment?
spies6jenya (10:39:44 PM): LOL
spies6Kirsten (10:39:46 PM): or is she legitiamtely confusing the terms?
spies6jenya (10:39:58 PM): No, she knows and just doesn't pay attention to detail apparently.
spies6Kirsten (10:40:43 PM): meh
spies6Kirsten (10:40:51 PM): It just feels fake
spies6Kirsten (10:40:58 PM): calling it the wrong term all the time
spies6jenya (10:41:05 PM): This still cracks me up
spies6jenya (10:41:06 PM): spies6Kirsten (1:07:24 AM):If I lead an exile on Gretchen and she is a cit, I might just shoot myself, though. that would be 3 in a row spies6amelia (1:07:33 AM):I wish I were in a position to vote for the person I find most suspicious, but I think I'll have to vote for her too spies6amelia (1:07:51 AM):which is SO spy-ish I know, but I KNOW I'm a Cit spies6amelia (1:07:56 AM):can't say the same about Gretchen spies6Kirsten (1:07:58 AM):that's pretty spyish spies6Kirsten (1:07:59 AM):you spy
spies6jenya (10:41:31 PM): Levi keeps saying Amelia probably had a role.
spies6Kirsten (10:41:38 PM): ?
spies6Kirsten (10:41:48 PM): why would he say that?
spies6jenya (10:42:07 PM): After the "mystery action" on Khaled
spies6jenya (10:42:12 PM): I told him this:
spies6jenya (10:42:40 PM): well, I basically asked him to look for the spy that might have been protecting a role all game
spies6jenya (10:42:42 PM): spies6levi (12:22:10 PM): I figured out
spies6levi (12:22:13 PM): Who might fit the bill
spies6levi (12:22:15 PM): Of Spy role
spies6jenya (10:42:57 PM): spies6levi (12:23:09 PM): Amelia prob had a role
spies6jenya (12:23:29 PM): She might have. She definitely laid low.
spies6levi (12:23:41 PM): She had knowledge of deadlines too
spies6levi (12:23:48 PM): But Imprisonment also comes into play with that
spies6jenya (10:43:26 PM): spies6jenya (12:24:24 PM): But Gretchen
spies6jenya (12:24:31 PM): If she's a spy, probably didn't have a role
spies6jenya (12:24:41 PM): Since Donald tried to get Gretchen exiled over Jaya.
spies6jenya (12:24:55 PM): I suppose Jaya could have had a role.
spies6jenya (10:44:55 PM): Why does no one ever suspect you and I of being spypartners together?
spies6jenya (10:45:12 PM): I asked Levi and he flat out said no.
spies6Kirsten (10:45:26 PM): not sure
spies6Kirsten (10:46:05 PM): I'm going to go to bed
spies6jenya (10:46:10 PM): Ok, catch you tomorrow.
spies6Kirsten (10:46:15 PM): we can continue on tomorrow
spies6jenya (10:46:19 PM): Nite. :-)
spies6jenya (10:46:24 PM): Congrats on making the final 7.
spies6Kirsten (10:46:30 PM): I'm not really feeling that talkative right now.
spies6jenya (10:46:33 PM): As fucking bizarre as it is that we're here.
spies6jenya (10:46:37 PM): No prob.
spies6Kirsten (10:46:38 PM): eh, I consider that not something to be happy of
spies6Kirsten (10:46:54 PM): night!
spies6jenya (10:47:01 PM): /wave

[Kirsten]

spies6jenya (5:33:16 PM): What's your take on him?
spies6Kirsten (5:34:22 PM): I feel a lot better about him after this chat actually
spies6jenya (5:34:29 PM): The emotion?
spies6Kirsten (5:34:45 PM): I don't really even know how to describe it
spies6Kirsten (5:35:12 PM): I think part of it is that I don't think Levi is that exceptional of a player, and he would have to be an excellent spy to play how he's played
spies6jenya (5:35:34 PM): To some extent I agree, but he's worked really hard.
spies6Kirsten (5:36:11 PM): I'm nervous about Gretchen.
spies6jenya (5:36:22 PM): I was just about to ask about her in the group chat.
spies6Kirsten (5:36:25 PM): She's putting in a lot of work for a spy about to be exiled
spies6jenya (5:36:39 PM): Meh, it's lazy work to some extent.
spies6jenya (5:36:46 PM): Not really thinking anything through.
spies6jenya (5:36:52 PM): Or not all of it.

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (2:39:25 PM): you here?
spies6Kirsten (2:39:36 PM): I'm reading your posts in the Donald therad. You have a lot of misinformation
spies6Kirsten (2:39:39 PM): again
spies6Kirsten (2:39:42 PM): seems to be a common trend in that therad
spies6jenya came back from idle at 2:47:07 PM
spies6jenya (2:47:30 PM): What's the misinfo? I'll correct it.
spies6Kirsten (2:47:48 PM): A point I've made like 13 times
spies6Kirsten (2:47:57 PM): about how I voted Levi because I thought Ellis and friends were oging to vote Levi as well
spies6jenya (2:48:03 PM): Ok.
spies6jenya (2:48:14 PM): I was about to look into your Levi case or why you switched
spies6Kirsten (2:48:16 PM): You were trying to accuse me of "hoping to let Yvette get exiled" when in reality I was voting the target I thought would get the most
spies6Kirsten (2:50:00 PM): The reason i changed from thinking he was lying to being not sure is because his later posts in the thread actually were plausible
spies6Kirsten (2:50:08 PM): and my power keeps going out
spies6jenya (2:50:28 PM): bleh, terrible timing for that
spies6Kirsten (2:52:45 PM): so both you and Mirela are voting me
spies6jenya (2:52:50 PM): Nope.
spies6jenya (2:52:55 PM): I'm still totally undecided.
spies6Kirsten (2:53:01 PM): I think MIrela is a spy
spies6jenya (2:53:03 PM): I'm reading Mirela carefully right now.
spies6Kirsten (2:53:09 PM): I'm reading the chat, she's flip-flopping a lot
spies6jenya (2:53:09 PM): She just unloaded on ,e
spies6jenya (2:53:11 PM): me
spies6jenya (2:53:17 PM): And next you
spies6Kirsten (2:53:19 PM): she's trying to avoid Gretchen
spies6jenya (2:53:21 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (2:53:34 PM): But I have a sinking feeling about Gretchen exile too.
spies6jenya (2:53:41 PM): So, I can understand that to some extent.
spies6jenya (2:53:48 PM): I think I would have a sinking feeling about ANY exile.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:07 PM): Your theory on me is that I bused the shit out of Donald accidentally
spies6Kirsten (2:54:09 PM): Occam's razor
spies6jenya (2:54:16 PM): Intentionally
spies6jenya (2:54:23 PM): But yeah
spies6Kirsten (2:54:27 PM): No, you said that I didn't want to bus him that hard
spies6jenya (2:54:31 PM): Occam's Razor episode 4 is that you're a cit.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:33 PM): so I tried to pull off or some crap logic
spies6Kirsten (2:54:37 PM): And episode 5
spies6jenya (2:54:42 PM): Occam's razor episode 3, I don't know.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:48 PM): where I spent 3 hours trying to stop people from voting Faith/William to vote Iris
spies6jenya (2:54:49 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (2:54:51 PM): Right.
spies6Kirsten (2:54:55 PM): and forced her to claim
spies6jenya (2:54:58 PM): Yup.
spies6jenya (2:55:07 PM): Believe me, I'm weighing all that heavily.
spies6Kirsten (2:55:10 PM): And me spy hunting the entirety of the game
spies6Kirsten (2:55:18 PM): being active, looking through old evidence
spies6jenya (2:55:19 PM): Right, if Levi's a spy you've done well.
spies6Kirsten (2:55:24 PM): producing chats, theories, ideas
spies6Kirsten (2:55:37 PM): I don't fit any characteristics of a spy
spies6Kirsten (2:55:56 PM): My spy-like characterstics is that I look like a cit, so I must be a spy who's trying to look like a cit, which is...quite awful
spies6Kirsten (2:56:09 PM): Again, the simplest and most likely explanation is that I am a citizen.
spies6jenya (2:56:15 PM): You've agreed with me though that as a spy you'd be a "different kind of spy"
spies6jenya (2:56:33 PM): So I need to be cautious of that.
spies6jenya (2:56:46 PM): Ok, I need to catch up in S6 real quick, I need a read on mirela.
spies6jenya (2:57:01 PM): Chat me up with anything else you've got, I'll be here.
spies6jenya (3:00:08 PM): I hate the little word things, they're such terrible evidence
spies6jenya (3:00:15 PM): But I keep seeing little things from Mirela.
spies6jenya (3:00:18 PM): spies6mirela (2:30:04 PM): and if i'm exiled. then you are another step closer to losing
spies6jenya (3:00:21 PM): "you" not we
spies6jenya (3:00:29 PM): Also she said Amelia was a "lost cause"
spies6jenya (3:00:50 PM): Give me your neurtal opinion of those when you can.
spies6Kirsten (3:01:02 PM): Scummy
spies6Kirsten (3:01:07 PM): I think she's flailing
spies6Kirsten (3:01:20 PM): she can't defend why she changed her mind on Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (3:01:35 PM): Regarding myself
spies6Kirsten (3:01:51 PM): Jenya, I think you "could" be a spy. But I also think your play over the course of the game is not spylike
spies6Kirsten (3:01:54 PM): you've led citizen exiles, sure
spies6Kirsten (3:02:02 PM): but no citizen is perfect
spies6Kirsten (3:02:16 PM): So right now I'm basically just trusting that you are a citizen
spies6Kirsten (3:02:19 PM): if I'm wrong, then so be it
spies6Kirsten (3:02:31 PM): but we aren't going to win this game by paranoia
spies6Kirsten (3:03:03 PM): Your entire point against me is that if I were a spy I'd be a good one
spies6Kirsten (3:03:05 PM): that's a bad point.
spies6Kirsten (3:03:26 PM): That's strictly paranoia, and not a realistic interpretation of my play
spies6jenya (3:03:38 PM): You're overdefensive.
spies6Kirsten (3:03:40 PM): I think we need to figure out why we are both still in the game
spies6Kirsten (3:03:45 PM): No, I'm telling it like it is
spies6jenya (3:03:49 PM): Just defend the points.
spies6jenya (3:04:09 PM): Let me make my conclusions. I think I've learned from Rey and Yvette. And to a lesser extent Khale.d
spies6Kirsten (3:04:12 PM): I'm saying that you will exile me at some point because you are paranoid, and you will be wrong.
spies6jenya (3:04:20 PM): I'm REALLY cautious of that, trust me.
spies6Kirsten (3:04:24 PM): And you're letting yourself be driven by fear, not realism
spies6jenya (3:04:40 PM): We need to give Mirela and Gretchen a look.
spies6jenya (3:04:47 PM): That's of the essence right now. Levi too.
spies6jenya (3:04:56 PM): I don't like the way he's sitting on the sidelines taking weak jabs.
spies6Kirsten (3:05:02 PM): Think of how much we've interacted this game, how much I've hunted for spies, how many things I've done. I would have to be faking all of those. I would have had to avoid slipping up in all those situations, a tough feat
spies6jenya (3:05:08 PM): Right.
spies6Kirsten (4:30:11 PM): what do you think about this:
spies6Kirsten (4:30:27 PM): Amelia episode 7: "Jason - Our few conversations have been pretty in depth, talking about our suspicions."
spies6Kirsten (4:30:54 PM): Amelia episode 9: "spies6amelia (11:51:59 PM): Jason -- Our conversations on AIM have been pretty sparse, but he seems genuinely interested in keeping a clean game"
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spies6Kirsten (5:48:03 PM): who did you protect from imprisonment?
spies6jenya (5:48:36 PM):
spies6mirela (5:46:50 PM): jenya

spies6mirela (5:46:58 PM): i'm voting for either you or jason. right now it's you.
spies6jenya (5:48:40 PM): Jason.
spies6Kirsten (5:49:52 PM): why Jason?
spies6jenya (5:50:03 PM): Why'd I protect Jason?
spies6Kirsten (5:50:06 PM): yes
spies6jenya (5:50:19 PM): Because I considered me him and Pete
spies6jenya (5:50:39 PM): and I didn't think the spies would take me, considering they've been apparently setting me up
spies6jenya (5:50:55 PM): They seem quite content with me here.
spies6jenya (5:51:12 PM): Pete, I thought might be less vulnerable than Jason, plus the away thing.
spies6jenya (5:51:22 PM): Jason, I have a concrete reason why he's a cit
spies6jenya (5:51:34 PM): A fact that's really hard to explain away.
spies6jenya (5:52:01 PM): So I sent him to the final 7 and hoped I'd be there too.
spies6Kirsten (5:53:00 PM): If Gretchen is a spy
spies6Kirsten (5:53:04 PM): I wonder how the other spy is playing it
spies6jenya (5:59:32 PM): Right now, that's my initial worry about what Mirela's doing
spies6jenya (5:59:44 PM): She seemed to try to strongarm me to move to Jason. But.
spies6jenya (6:00:05 PM): I just explained why I see Jason as Cit and she said:
spies6jenya (6:00:27 PM):
spies6mirela (5:53:17 PM): oh i see

spies6jenya (5:53:20 PM): That's probably the best evidence I have that Jason's a Cit.

spies6mirela (5:53:21 PM): i didn't know that

spies6jenya (5:53:28 PM): It's not bad, right?

spies6mirela (5:53:50 PM): wow

spies6jenya (5:53:57 PM): Hmm?

spies6jenya (5:54:08 PM): Now you understand why I've trusted him for so long.

spies6mirela (5:54:10 PM): maybe i'm going in the wrong direction with this again
spies6jenya (6:05:14 PM): Mirela's using Iris's confessional as evidence
spies6jenya (6:05:18 PM): sorry, time capsule
spies6jenya (6:05:23 PM): *facepalm*
spies6Kirsten (6:05:34 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:05:38 PM): she used that with me earlier on
spies6jenya (6:05:46 PM): Do you think Brother Levi is a spy?
spies6Kirsten (6:06:04 PM): I'm torn, but I'm leaning slightly citizen right now
spies6Kirsten (6:06:12 PM): The spies were sucking up to him
spies6Kirsten (6:06:23 PM): He was a huge exile candidate
spies6jenya (6:06:25 PM): Rey--spy/not sure. Khaled--wavering Yvette--spy.
spies6Kirsten (6:06:30 PM): And these spies had no problems busing Donald
spies6jenya (6:06:36 PM): Yes, he was.
spies6jenya (6:06:45 PM): Was Exile 4 a Spy vs. Spy.
spies6Kirsten (6:06:50 PM): I think Iris looks like she wanted to look good when Levi wasn't a spy.
spies6jenya (6:06:55 PM): Would Amelia have wanted Donald out over Spy Levi
spies6jenya (6:07:04 PM): Wait
spies6jenya (6:07:13 PM): "Levi...I'm shaking my head sadly. I believed in you, kid. I trusted you fully. I should know better by now than to trust someone just because I like them...my head's been turned before by pretty faces and pretty words with monsters hiding behind them. It breaks my heart to say this, but the only way I can read what happened last night is that you used me as a pawn."
spies6jenya (6:07:45 PM): She cranked up the bullshit extra thick for that one
spies6Kirsten (6:07:49 PM): yes
spies6jenya (6:07:59 PM): Donald...I'm watching you. You clearly have friends in powerful places that were able to get the powerfully persuasive word out a mere hour before exile to swing the vote onto a Citizen who couldn't defend herself. That was a dirty trick and I'm ashamed to have been a part of it.
spies6Kirsten (6:08:22 PM): who else did she address in that post?
spies6Kirsten (6:08:30 PM): Levi, Donald, Mirela
spies6jenya (6:13:22 PM): I'm sticking with my Mirela cit read.
spies6jenya (6:13:35 PM): As much as that makes me want to kill myself.
spies6Kirsten (6:13:53 PM): me too
spies6Kirsten (6:14:07 PM): I put Gretchen as 3
spies6Kirsten (6:14:12 PM): I'm deciding between Levi and Pete
spies6Kirsten (6:14:15 PM): for the 2 slot
spies6jenya (6:14:21 PM): Pete's a waste I believe.
spies6Kirsten (6:14:35 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:14:45 PM): Levi probably isn't getting exiled either
spies6jenya (6:15:43 PM): no?
spies6jenya (6:15:52 PM): It's way up in the air right now
spies6jenya (6:15:59 PM): four of us are here still deciding
spies6Kirsten (6:16:48 PM): Why did Pete vote Levi in episode 4?
spies6jenya (6:17:42 PM): I believe I asked him that at one point, sec.
spies6Kirsten (6:19:11 PM): I'm thinking Mirela + Levi aren't spies together, based on their interactions episode 4
spies6jenya (6:23:09 PM): Plus three spies as leading alternatives for exile?
spies6jenya (6:23:17 PM): That would be insane.
spies6Kirsten (6:23:30 PM): yeah
spies6jenya (6:23:38 PM): Donald + Mirela + Levi at 4 with Jason voting Amelia, lol
spies6Kirsten (6:24:37 PM): Didn't Jason vote Faith?
spies6Kirsten (6:24:43 PM): I think he voted Faith and got swapped to Amelia
spies6Kirsten (6:24:45 PM): could be wrong though
spies6jenya (6:25:32 PM): right
spies6jenya (6:25:38 PM): But Amelia before Donald or Levi.
spies6Kirsten (6:28:04 PM): Jason tells me that Mirela is voting for me
spies6Kirsten (6:28:10 PM): And mirela tells me " no clue" when I ask her
spies6Kirsten (6:28:14 PM): Fishy
spies6jenya (6:28:33 PM): Mirela's changing faster than a whore on Saturday night.
spies6jenya (6:28:50 PM): But I can understand that to some extent. She was voting me about 20 minutes ago /sigh
spies6Kirsten (6:28:57 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:29:00 PM): I'm feeling like that
spies6Kirsten (6:29:06 PM): I think I just gotta stick with Gretchen and hope for the best
spies6Kirsten (6:29:12 PM): This episode was too fast
spies6jenya (6:29:15 PM): Way.
spies6Kirsten (6:29:33 PM): and working 8 hour days + needing sleep, + other things have kept me from completing my thorough read through
spies6Kirsten (6:29:48 PM): I've read through all 5 dead spies
spies6Kirsten (6:30:04 PM): but that's as far as I've gotten
spies6Kirsten (6:50:17 PM): your vote?
spies6Kirsten (6:53:42 PM): You voted me?
spies6Kirsten (6:57:18 PM): hello?
spies6jenya (6:59:29 PM): Hey, we can talk after. I want to see what Gretchen flips.
spies6Kirsten (6:59:49 PM): If she flips citizen, then the citizens lose =/
spies6jenya (7:00:03 PM): It'd be grim.
spies6jenya (7:00:05 PM): But not over.
spies6Kirsten (7:00:21 PM): I would have to convince an angry mob I'm not a spy
spies6Kirsten (7:00:30 PM): according to Jason, I'm only a small bit behind Gretchen this exile
spies6Kirsten (7:00:35 PM): if she's a cit, that's probably game
spies6jenya (7:00:42 PM): We'll see.
spies6jenya (7:00:59 PM): If you're a cit, keep an eye on reactions post-exile.
spies6jenya (7:01:06 PM): First finger pointing means a lot.
spies6Kirsten (7:14:35 PM): Levi and Jason don't seem to be too nervous
spies6Kirsten (7:27:42 PM): I vote Kirsten
spies6jenya (7:27:51 PM): :-)
spies6Kirsten (7:28:10 PM): Reasons being everything I have said in my defense this game

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (3:13:50 PM): you around?
spies6jenya came back from idle at 3:52:42 PM
spies6jenya (3:53:29 PM): Hi there.
spies6Kirsten (3:54:12 PM): if you have suspicions of me
spies6Kirsten (3:54:19 PM): feel free to address them to me
spies6jenya (3:54:29 PM): I think I'll wait til after Imprisonment.
spies6Kirsten (3:54:32 PM): I'd rather spend this episode finding spies than defending myself
spies6Kirsten (3:54:32 PM): ok
spies6jenya (3:54:33 PM): If I'm around.
spies6Kirsten (3:54:58 PM): If you want to stick around, keeping posting about how you're going to vote me
spies6jenya (3:55:16 PM): I'm just exhausted after last episode and need a break.
spies6Kirsten (3:55:38 PM): I'm actually feeling energized. Maybe it's the do or die mentality
spies6jenya (3:55:39 PM): And I really don't want to give the spies an idea of who to Imprison, so I won't say anything before Imprisonment.
spies6jenya (3:56:07 PM): I'm glad it's narrowed down, that does make things different.
spies6Kirsten (3:56:19 PM): all 3 citizens have to vote correctly
spies6Kirsten (3:57:03 PM): I have some plans, but I will have to wait until post imprisonment...Also I need to find the spies first anyway.
spies6jenya (3:57:04 PM): Assuming the Spies commit suicide and vote the same person, yes.
spies6Kirsten (3:57:18 PM): It's only suicide if it fails
spies6jenya (3:57:21 PM): Right.
spies6jenya (3:57:26 PM): Who has the tiebreaker?
spies6jenya (3:57:29 PM): No one?
spies6Kirsten (3:57:33 PM): No one, but it would be me
spies6Kirsten (3:57:39 PM): I got 2nd place
spies6jenya (3:57:51 PM): But basically in a tie, we revote, right?
spies6Kirsten (3:57:53 PM): yes
spies6jenya (3:58:04 PM): That's cool.
spies6Kirsten (3:58:06 PM): and just revote amongs the people who were voted
spies6Kirsten (3:58:11 PM): from my understanding
spies6Kirsten (3:58:21 PM): or just the top 2, maybe
spies6Kirsten (3:58:30 PM): the two people who were tied
spies6jenya (3:58:36 PM): In a way I want to chat about suspects but I think it's a terrible idea strategically.
spies6Kirsten (3:58:50 PM): I think a good idea strategically
spies6jenya (3:58:58 PM): And I am fairly drained. I took off most of the workday yesterday for that crap./
spies6Kirsten (3:58:58 PM): is for you to "commit" to a player (assuming you're town)
spies6Kirsten (3:59:11 PM): and then see if you were imprisoned or not
spies6jenya (3:59:19 PM): That's too easily wifommable.
spies6Kirsten (3:59:43 PM): The spies are looking for teh citizen who will vote with them
spies6jenya (3:59:43 PM): I'm going to leave a farewell instruction to people to beware of that kind of thing.
spies6Kirsten (4:00:06 PM): and with them means specifically, "willing to vote anyone who isn't them"
spies6Kirsten (4:00:41 PM): I have a hunch on who will be imprisoned. But I'll wait and see
spies6jenya (4:01:18 PM): Well, I'm not a spy and I think you know that, so you're welcome to tell me if you're bored.
spies6jenya (4:01:32 PM): But if you have much doubt, you shouldn't.
spies6Kirsten (4:01:39 PM): I have minor doubts.
spies6Kirsten (4:01:49 PM): but at this point, I have to trust people
spies6Kirsten (4:01:54 PM): contrary to popular opinion
spies6Kirsten (4:02:02 PM): lack of trust/paranoia is failure
spies6jenya (4:02:18 PM): That's what Sam was getting at with one of his questions.
spies6Kirsten (4:02:58 PM): I think there are too many problems with you being a spy.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:09 PM): and if you are, congrats. You will win.
spies6jenya (4:03:25 PM): Thanks. Too bad I'm not.
spies6jenya (4:03:30 PM): Would make this a lot easier.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:37 PM): That's how I feel.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:58 PM): Pete shouldn't be thought of as confirmed
spies6Kirsten (4:04:02 PM): by any stretch
spies6Kirsten (4:04:40 PM): If I can be called a spy despite leading exiles against 2 spies later in the game, then he shouldn't be considered clear for wagoning 2 early.
spies6jenya (4:05:33 PM): Were you surprised to see Gretchen come up Cit?
spies6Kirsten (4:06:15 PM): To be honest, not really. I wasn't convinced on her.
spies6Kirsten (4:06:35 PM): I should have probably stuck with my read on Levi's backtrack on me
spies6Kirsten (4:06:59 PM): I hate the AIM component of this game. I really do. This is really sad, but I read people better from text written on a forum
spies6jenya (4:07:00 PM): If everything goes to pattern, you'll be imprisoned.
spies6Kirsten (4:07:23 PM): really? That would almost be a relief. What's the pattern?
spies6jenya (4:07:34 PM): They've been taking so many unexpected.
spies6Kirsten (4:07:40 PM): yep
spies6Kirsten (4:08:07 PM): I listed myself as citizen I would be surprised to see imprisoned.
spies6jenya (4:08:22 PM): :-)
spies6Kirsten (4:08:35 PM): which strikes me as sad. I was kicking so much ass early game
spies6Kirsten (4:08:55 PM): now I'm that shitty cit dragged into endgame =/
spies6jenya (4:09:00 PM): No one's done amazingly well. We've been dragged down by the Borises and Gretchens to some extent.
spies6Kirsten (4:09:08 PM): yeah
spies6Kirsten (4:09:13 PM): I wanted to make a point about that actually
spies6Kirsten (4:09:22 PM): You made the comment about how we should exile the person who's voted 6 citizens in a row
spies6Kirsten (4:09:29 PM): Which obviously means me.
spies6Kirsten (4:10:01 PM): However, Mirela has voted 6 in a row. All of hers just haven't died yet. You've voted for 4/5. Nobody has a good voting record from the last 6 exiles.
spies6Kirsten (4:10:23 PM): Alright, going to grab some dinner
spies6Kirsten (4:10:26 PM): be back in 30
spies6jenya (4:10:56 PM): Ok.
spies6Kirsten (6:04:56 PM): and by 30 I really mean 120

[Kirsten]

pies6mirela (12:56:49 PM): hey kirstwen
spies6Kirsten (3:13:44 PM): are you around?
spies6mirela went away at 4:51:53 PM
spies6mirela returned at 4:52:54 PM
spies6mirela (4:58:00 PM): hi kirsten
spies6Kirsten (4:58:05 PM): hi
spies6mirela (4:58:21 PM): i'm not going back to the chat yet. i'd like to talk to you first
spies6Kirsten (4:58:22 PM): Are you voting for me?
spies6mirela (4:58:25 PM): no
spies6Kirsten (4:58:32 PM): who are you voting for?
spies6mirela (4:58:38 PM): i have no idea anymore.
spies6Kirsten (4:58:41 PM): heh
spies6Kirsten (4:59:04 PM): Last episode you told me Gretchen, but you voted Boris. Now not Gretchen? Can you explain what you are thinking?
spies6mirela (4:59:09 PM): i'm just....i don't know this game is getting too hard. and it's really heating my head cause i have so many other things on my mind
spies6mirela (4:59:49 PM): i've been going down the wrong path.
spies6Kirsten (5:00:06 PM): How so?
spies6mirela (5:00:07 PM): so far the people i've suspected
spies6mirela (5:00:13 PM): all turned out to be citizens
spies6Kirsten (5:00:25 PM): same
spies6mirela (5:00:28 PM): i don't have much evidence on gretchen
spies6Kirsten (5:00:29 PM): I'm in that same boat
spies6mirela (5:00:42 PM): so i don't want to make the same mistake as i did with thor, rey, boris
spies6mirela (5:01:00 PM): i'm just trying a different approach to the situation
spies6Kirsten (5:01:14 PM): I think I'm going to just vote Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (5:01:26 PM): I'm not sold on her, by any stretch, but I think she's the most suspicious still around
spies6Kirsten (5:01:35 PM): I need to read up on Levi more
spies6Kirsten (5:03:40 PM): spies6mirela is typing a huge reply?
spies6Kirsten (5:06:08 PM): Do you have a vote placed now
spies6Kirsten (5:06:09 PM): ?
spies6mirela (5:15:32 PM): sorry
spies6mirela (5:21:35 PM): my computer is beingeing retarded
spies6mirela (5:21:54 PM): i do not think gretchen should be voted out tonight
spies6mirela (5:22:02 PM): i want to vote jenya out
spies6mirela (5:22:55 PM): i find it impossible that the her and jenya are both ctizens. i really think one of them is a spy
spies6mirela (5:23:07 PM): whose been using the other, which explains why they are still alive
spies6mirela (5:23:51 PM): not only that but jenya is the reason why rey was exiled, and the reason why khaled was exiled
spies6mirela (5:27:36 PM): i can assure you though i'm not a spy
spies6mirela (5:27:44 PM): but i can't really prove that in anyway
spies6mirela (5:31:02 PM): are you still there?
spies6Kirsten (5:37:23 PM): sorry
spies6Kirsten (5:37:31 PM): was talking to some friends
spies6Kirsten (5:37:32 PM): I'm back
spies6Kirsten (5:37:52 PM): You think it's impossible that Jenya + Gretchen are both citizens?
spies6Kirsten (5:37:57 PM): what ties them together?
spies6mirela (5:38:16 PM): i don't think it's imossible
spies6mirela (5:38:23 PM): impossible*
spies6mirela (5:38:41 PM): i don't think gretchen being exiled is right
spies6Kirsten (5:38:49 PM): why not?
spies6Kirsten (5:39:00 PM): what makes you think she is a citizen?
spies6mirela (5:40:00 PM): i don't think there is enough evidence
spies6mirela (5:40:07 PM): on her to have her exiled
spies6Kirsten (5:42:11 PM): and you think there is enough on Jenya?
spies6mirela (5:42:35 PM): yes
spies6mirela (5:42:44 PM): jenya has been leading the burg into a spiral of mislynches
spies6mirela (5:42:57 PM): ever since she returned from her fake imprisonment
spies6mirela (5:43:46 PM): it's impossible that jenya is alive after so long, especially if her role is public
spies6mirela (5:44:45 PM): she claims she's a citizen able to protect other citizens
spies6mirela (5:44:58 PM): this is a huge deal. why would the spies let her roam free? it doesn't add up
spies6Kirsten (5:45:35 PM): I'm not sure.
spies6mirela (5:45:51 PM): kirsten. i'm confident one of them is a spy. most likely jenya.
spies6mirela (5:46:11 PM): i'm going to try to do whatever i can to get her exiled, because this is what i believe
spies6Kirsten (5:46:24 PM): I won't be voting for her.
spies6mirela (5:46:40 PM): can you give me a reason as to why?
spies6Kirsten (5:46:57 PM): I don't think she's a spy, based on the way she's played. And if a spy claimed a role episode 3 for no reason, and got away with it, then that would be sad, but it seems unlikely.
spies6Kirsten (5:47:13 PM): What do you think she does on off nights if she is a spy?
spies6mirela (5:47:21 PM): what do you mean?
spies6Kirsten (5:47:29 PM): She protects people from exile every other night
spies6mirela (5:47:39 PM): and?
spies6Kirsten (5:47:47 PM): What does she do on those other nights
spies6mirela (5:47:59 PM): i don't know
spies6mirela (5:50:26 PM): what do you think she does?
spies6Kirsten (5:50:40 PM): If she's a cit, she protects from imprisonment, as claimed
spies6Kirsten (5:50:49 PM): if she's a spy, then I have no clue what she could possibly do.
spies6mirela (5:51:03 PM): who do you think the last spies are?
spies6Kirsten (5:51:14 PM): I don't know
spies6Kirsten (5:51:19 PM): I think Gretchen is probably one
spies6mirela (5:51:23 PM): why
spies6Kirsten (5:51:43 PM): She ignored Amelia. She voted William twice when she should have voted Donald
spies6Kirsten (5:52:05 PM): I don't understand why Donald would swap his vote from Roxy a citizen to Gretchen, a if Gretchen was a citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:52:17 PM): why would Donald vote a citizen who was the most likely to be exiled?
spies6Kirsten (5:52:24 PM): over the citizen he already had his vote on
spies6mirela (5:52:26 PM): well she's survived this long
spies6mirela (5:53:05 PM): and if gretchen is a citizen
spies6Kirsten (5:53:32 PM): I don't feel confident voting anyone in the game right now
spies6Kirsten (5:53:37 PM): but I feel most confident voting for Gretchen
spies6mirela (5:54:32 PM): who are you two votes going for
spies6Kirsten (5:54:47 PM): One is Gretchen
spies6Kirsten (5:54:56 PM): The other I'm not sure on
spies6Kirsten (5:55:12 PM): I'm thinking Pete, possibly, actually.
spies6mirela (5:55:20 PM): yeah where the fuck is he?
spies6Kirsten (5:55:24 PM): on vacation
spies6Kirsten (5:59:13 PM): I'm nervous
spies6Kirsten (5:59:19 PM): If we exile a citizen...
spies6Kirsten (6:00:09 PM): Gretchen + either Pete, Mirela, Levi
spies6mirela (6:00:13 PM): so jenya convinced me she and jason are probably not spies
spies6mirela (6:00:20 PM): i didn't know about the power up thing
spies6Kirsten (6:00:20 PM): how so?
spies6Kirsten (6:00:24 PM): ah, yeah
spies6Kirsten (6:00:58 PM): Mirela, both Roxy and Georgia suspected you and were imprisoned. What is your guess about why they got imprisoned?
spies6mirela (6:01:34 PM): i think roxy was imprisoned because everybody thought she was a citizen
spies6mirela (6:01:44 PM): i thought georgia was imprisoned because she voted for jenya
spies6mirela (6:02:55 PM): i was also surprised, because they both suspected me
spies6mirela (6:03:06 PM): i think the spies are doing whatever they can at this point to exile me
spies6Kirsten (6:05:00 PM): Pick a spy between Levi and Pete
spies6mirela (6:05:18 PM): levi
spies6Kirsten (6:08:40 PM): why?
spies6mirela (6:08:59 PM): because pete.....
spies6mirela (6:09:04 PM): he stuck to amelia pretty well
spies6Kirsten (6:11:07 PM): He did vote Thor over Amelia
spies6mirela (6:11:15 PM): that's true
spies6Kirsten (6:11:19 PM): and was fine with exiling Rey in the consensus chat
spies6mirela (6:11:54 PM): hmm
spies6Kirsten (6:24:58 PM): so...
spies6Kirsten (6:25:00 PM): who are you voting?
spies6mirela (6:25:32 PM): no clue
spies6Kirsten (6:26:22 PM): who is in your confessional right now?
spies6Kirsten (6:26:26 PM): as your vote?
spies6Kirsten (6:28:39 PM): Jason says you're voting for me. Is there a reason you won't fess up to it?
spies6mirela (6:30:26 PM): when did i say that?
spies6Kirsten (6:31:44 PM): sPIEs6Jason (6:24:04 PM):
spies6mirela (9:21:54 PM): kirsten for sure

spies6mirela (9:22:05 PM): and i think levi
spies6mirela (6:31:59 PM): that was before
spies6Kirsten (6:32:20 PM): that was only 3 minutes before
spies6mirela (6:32:32 PM): i'm in an indecisive state right now
spies6Kirsten (6:53:52 PM): I'm guesssing you settled on voting me?
spies6mirela (6:53:57 PM): i am
spies6Kirsten (6:54:11 PM): then I guess I have to hope Gretchen is a spy or we lose
spies6Kirsten (6:54:22 PM): no pressure...
spies6mirela (6:54:39 PM): if gretchen is a citizen we lose?
spies6Kirsten (6:57:36 PM): If she's a citizen
spies6Kirsten (6:57:40 PM): I probably will be exiled next
spies6Kirsten (6:57:48 PM): I'm almost getting exiled this time
spies6mirela (6:58:02 PM): kirsten it's clear as to who the possible spies are
spies6Kirsten (6:58:10 PM): I'm not a spy
spies6mirela (6:58:58 PM): it's either kirsten/gretchen kirsten/levi or gretchen/levi
spies6Kirsten (9:57:21 PM): or Levi/Pete

[Kirsten]

spies6Kirsten (3:59:59 PM): Madness
spies6gretchen2 (4:01:44 PM): haha what's that?
spies6Kirsten (4:01:56 PM): talking to Gretchen on Aim
spies6Kirsten (4:01:59 PM): it's been a while
spies6gretchen2 (4:02:20 PM): it'a been freaking forever.
spies6gretchen2 (4:02:24 PM): and it's gonna have to wait.
spies6gretchen2 (4:02:29 PM): i have to go to work myself.
spies6Kirsten (4:02:38 PM): exciting
spies6gretchen2 (4:02:38 PM): i will be online tonight though if you're around.
spies6Kirsten (4:02:44 PM): tonight, meaning how many hours from now?
spies6gretchen2 (4:03:13 PM): ummm about 7. for about an hour. then back in about 3 hours from then.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:25 PM): yeah, I won't
spies6Kirsten (4:03:29 PM): I'll be pleasantly asleep
spies6gretchen2 (4:03:34 PM): bah. ok.
spies6gretchen2 (4:03:37 PM): well i have to go.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:38 PM): who are your top 2?
spies6gretchen2 (4:03:40 PM): don't vote for me.
spies6Kirsten (4:03:43 PM): really quickly before you go
spies6gretchen2 (4:03:43 PM): jason and levi
spies6Kirsten (4:03:50 PM): cool
spies6Kirsten (4:03:53 PM): why Jason?
spies6gretchen2 (4:04:22 PM): cause he's posted stuff all and i don't like people thinking he's a cit by default.
spies6gretchen2 (4:04:41 PM): he's also made 3 lame cases on 3 cits.
spies6gretchen2 (4:04:45 PM): me yvette and georgia
spies6gretchen2 (4:04:53 PM): and there's more. i need to keep reading.
spies6gretchen2 (4:04:56 PM): but i have to go.
spies6Kirsten (4:05:04 PM): have a good time at work :-)
spies6gretchen2 (4:05:08 PM): don't vote me. i am a citizen. you have my word.
spies6gretchen2 (4:05:11 PM): thanks hun. see ya. xx
spies6Kirsten (4:05:15 PM): :-)