Episode #2 - Conversations

[Donald]

Ooh.. I have some juicy convos for you now.

Still working on cit-to-cit convos with fellow spies. Amelia and Jaya aren't easy to have that with, not to mention I only had one very brief convo with Amelia during the first episode anyways, so we couldn't. But I'm sure Pete and I will have some good ones.


Anyways, enjoy!

EDIT: I have very bad news.

So, I have been using Pidgin. It has an option, not set by default, to auto-log your chats. I've installed Pidgin to my USB drive. My USB drive has been acting up, and usually isn't getting read, so I installed it to a new USB drive. I forgot to enable the auto-logging. All of those juicy juicy convos are now lost.


I had some good conversations with Ariel, Gretchen, and Ed, and they really liked my well thought out analytical thoughts and whatnot. Sadly, unless they post them, they are lost forever. *tear*

[Donald]

First, my chat with Mei

MeiYun said:

(8:10:06 PM) MeiYun: hi donald!
(8:10:12 PM) Donald: Hi Mei
(8:10:21 PM) MeiYun: so hows everything going?
(8:10:50 PM) Donald: busy now that I have so many convos going, lol
(8:11:00 PM) Donald: but feeling good to get back into the game after a slight break
(8:11:12 PM) MeiYun: who are you talking to! i want to talk to them too are they spies?
(8:11:48 PM) Donald: lol, I'm talking to Gretchen, Ed, and Ariel
(8:12:03 PM) Donald: Ariel -> cit, Gretchen leaning towards cit, but improving my read
(8:12:09 PM) Donald: Ed, I'm just meeting, so I don't know
(8:13:16 PM) Donald: So how have you been? Who are you talking to?
(8:13:22 PM) MeiYun: good!
(8:13:38 PM) MeiYun: i double checked the people you were talking to!
(8:14:04 PM) MeiYun: im tired of talking to khaled and oswald for the past few days so i went to you for right now!
(8:14:39 PM) MeiYun: so why did you vote for me?
(8:16:49 PM) Donald: yay!
(8:16:57 PM) Donald: Well, I have some reasons, and they were good reasons
(8:17:25 PM) Donald: I really hoped to talk with you before the exile, though, just to get your side of the story, and make everything more clear so I could make an educated vote, but you were so busy with Georgia and Roxy
(8:17:31 PM) Donald: and then the last day I was too busy to sign on
(8:17:46 PM) Donald: Anyways, onto my reasons, that I still want to talk with you about
(8:18:24 PM) MeiYun: blah blah
(8:18:27 PM) MeiYun: so what were they
(8:18:28 PM) Donald: I'm gonna copy/paste most of what I siad to Ariel
(8:18:53 PM) Donald: (7:55:51 PM) Donald: There's a small one, pre-alignment reveal, she asked Georgia if she was a spy
(7:56:08 PM) Donald: I can't see how you could use that to say anybody is a spy or a citizen, unless you're stretching it
(7:56:22 PM) Donald: But in our team chat, when that was brought up, I was surprised by Mei's reaction
(7:56:31 PM) Ariel: Which was?
(7:57:00 PM) Donald: She seemed really freaked that Georgia had a vote for her, I need to double-check the log, if I still have it, but I think Mei even mentioned that she needs to be more careful with what she says
(7:57:32 PM) Ariel: Wait, she was freaked that Georgia was being voted for?
(7:57:32 PM) Donald: and although I agree everybody needs to be careful, because spys will take things out of context to get you lynched, but only a spy needs to keep a very keen eye on every detail of what they say
(8:19:12 PM) Donald: (7:59:29 PM) Donald: There was also her conversation with Oswald, she was apparently having a conversation with him when he first joined
(7:59:50 PM) Ariel: I disagree with that statement, for the record
(7:59:58 PM) Donald: okay
(8:19:36 PM) Donald: (8:03:48 PM) Donald: and during that conversation put him on the lurkers/suspicion list on our exile thread. I can see putting Oswald on an inactive list, because he just showed up, but with how much Mei had been pushing a lurker/inactive lynch, and also not stating that she talked with Oswald, I thought that was misrepresenting Oswald and only showing what Mei wanted to be seen, which would have pushed more for his lynch than otherwise
(8:03:56 PM) Ariel: Ugh, I'm still not back into the swing of this game.
(8:03:57 PM) Ariel: Sorry, continue.
(8:04:00 PM) Donald: lol
(8:04:01 PM) Donald: no problem
(8:04:27 PM) Ariel: Did Mei Yun talk privately with Oswald before she noted that he was inactive?
(8:04:53 PM) Donald: apparently she was talking privately with him during the time she noted that
(8:05:01 PM) Donald: So she was talking to him prior to saying that, yes
(8:05:06 PM) Ariel: Interesting.
(8:05:31 PM) Donald: To be a little fair, this morning when I was reviewing my chat logs, I saw when I talked with her that she said she talked a little with Oswald, but wasn't convinced, or something like that
(8:05:52 PM) Donald: But that's all she said, so at the time I was assuming she talked to him after what she posted on the exile thread
(8:06:04 PM) Donald: and when I voted her, I didn't even remember that in my convo with her
(8:06:55 PM) Ariel: I see.
(8:07:08 PM) Donald: I don't recall atm if there were many other reasons or not, but the last one, which was the biggest IMO, was how much she reacted to any player being suspicious of her
(8:19:56 PM) Donald: (8:08:51 PM) Donald: okay
(8:09:17 PM) Donald: She misrepresented me slightly, but I'm letting that slide. Basically I told her Kirsten was the player I was most suspicious of, though only slightly
(8:09:37 PM) Donald: and she never even tried to confirm/deny that, but that was such a small detail, anybody could forget it, like how I forgot she said she talked with Oswald
(8:09:55 PM) Donald: But I think Georgian and/or Roxy mentioned something about being misrepresented by Mei
(8:10:20 PM) Donald: So Georgia, Roxy, and Oswald had all been expressing suspicion towards Mei, and all had their own reasons. it seemed when even one player was leaning towards voting her, that Mei spent all her efforts trying to deter that one person
(8:10:39 PM) Donald: So much so, that she spent an entire heated night with Georgia, I never even had a chance to talk with her about my suspicions, any of them
(8:11:35 PM) Donald: and then with about 1 more day before exile, I had so much coming up and so much to do IRL, that I couldn't spend the time on spies to talk with her, even if she was available, so my vote went to her
(8:15:55 PM) Ariel: Interesting.
(8:20:22 PM) Donald: and mostly sums up my thoughts and opinions, after you read through it, I would love to talk about it and clear up everything
(8:21:33 PM) MeiYun: gimme a moment lol but i think these were thrown to me and i have discussed them already
(8:22:09 PM) Donald: okay, that may be
(8:22:21 PM) Donald: I hadn't been on much lately, so I could have missed them
(8:23:24 PM) MeiYun: wait
(8:24:34 PM) MeiYun: first the comment was a joke, i really cannot defend against it but that was the truth of it
(8:24:57 PM) MeiYun: it was a horrible joke that could have gotten me exiled for the wrong reasons
(8:25:46 PM) MeiYun: i was angry at georgia for pushing me that round for dumb reasons, for that joke, for being fake, for being bitchy and for "deflecting" that she didnt even prove anyway. those were all bad reasons
(8:26:33 PM) MeiYun: but only a spy needs to keep a very keen eye on every detail of what they say <----- THIS IS WRONG Caela got exiled in round one last season for not watching what she said
(8:28:43 PM) MeiYun: I thought that was misrepresenting Oswald and only showing what Mei wanted to be seen, which would have pushed more for his lynch than otherwise <--- You thought or William did? Why did you never confront me about it? Your Exile vote was a surprise because you supported me publicly.
(8:29:14 PM) MeiYun: what do you think i was doing for oswald? that i was bussing him?
(8:30:49 PM) Donald: I thought you could have been. When I started suspecting you for that reason, I did try to talk with you, but you'll see later me exlpaining that you were too busy with (I think) Georgia at the time, and spent quite a while with her.
(8:31:29 PM) Donald: Then later when I was on, you weren't and regrettably, coming up to the deadline, I was so wound up in real life work and exams, I didn't have the opportunity to say anything, only a very brief few minutes here or there to look at the boards
(8:31:33 PM) Donald: which wasn't enough for anything
(8:33:49 PM) MeiYun: well i was and unfortunately i cannot go to everyone because nobody will do it for me anyway
(8:33:50 PM) MeiYun: wait
(8:34:01 PM) MeiYun: do you still think i was bussing oswald
(8:34:30 PM) Donald: still, no. and I don't like the term 'bussing.'
(8:34:42 PM) Donald: The way I use it, bussing is when one spy gets another spy exiled
(8:34:45 PM) MeiYun: that was what william used
(8:36:42 PM) MeiYun: so what do you think, in your own words happened between me and oswald?
(8:41:35 PM) MeiYun: hello?
(8:43:51 PM) Donald: hi, I'm chatting a lot with my team and have 7 chats open
(8:44:04 PM) Donald: so I'm a little slpit now hehe
(8:44:12 PM) MeiYun: i like your advice lol btw
(8:44:18 PM) Donald: lol, thanks
(8:44:55 PM) Donald: What I felt was happening was you were pushing the inactive/lurkers more than it needed to be pushed, and wanted an easy lynch on somebody, and lynching a lurker is easy
(8:45:22 PM) Donald: By representing Oswald as not tlaking/participating, he remains in that lurker category, and so at the time you had 3 candidates for easy lynches, instead of just 2
(8:45:38 PM) MeiYun: actually three instead of four
(8:45:45 PM) MeiYun: oh wait four instead of three
(8:46:21 PM) MeiYun: are you done?
(8:47:18 PM) Donald: done? with what?
(8:47:30 PM) Donald: and that's right, I thought Oswald made 3
(8:47:35 PM) MeiYun: no i thought youw ere still explaining i dont want to interrupt
(8:48:51 PM) Donald: no, I'm done
(8:49:22 PM) MeiYun: i still wish you hadnt voted for me for that reason because it was doo doo
(8:49:43 PM) MeiYun: did you figure that i was pushing oswald as a citizen? could that be even be possible?
(8:50:26 PM) Donald: it didn't look like you were pushing him as a citizen, and that wasn't my strongest reason for voting you
(8:50:37 PM) MeiYun: then what was
(8:52:24 PM) Donald: one of my strongest reasons was how I felt you overreacted to anybody suspecting you of being a spy
(8:52:48 PM) Donald: whether the reason was good or bad, if it was one player or more, you seemed to focus pretty heavily on removing any and all suspicion on yourself
(8:53:58 PM) Donald: Obviously you'll want to defend yourself against accusations, especially false accusations, but I felt the level with which you devoted your time to defending against such made me think you were a spy and afraid of having been caught
(8:54:22 PM) MeiYun: point made but do you think that i could be an active smart citizen who didnt want to be exiled for doo doo reasons
(8:54:40 PM) MeiYun: sure like i could have overdone it but if i didnt do what i did i would have gotten four votes instead of three
(8:54:50 PM) MeiYun: and four votes was what all it took
(8:55:30 PM) Donald: I think you could
(8:55:40 PM) Donald: *could have been a citizen
(8:55:45 PM) Donald: still think you could be
(8:56:48 PM) Donald: but I felt there was some decently strong evidence against you there, as compared with other players
(8:57:22 PM) Donald: After the exile, though, I started reading just briefly over posts with Roxy and others, and I'm thinking I want to talk more with her, especially since she's on my team again
(8:57:32 PM) Donald: and if she's a spy, that could look better onyou
(8:57:45 PM) MeiYun: people think shes not
(8:57:54 PM) MeiYun: the point being is i am lucky to be even here
(8:58:13 PM) MeiYun: but i think i did what i had to do even if i look "over defensive" or something
(8:58:30 PM) Donald: I can agree with that
(8:58:41 PM) Donald: with how close the votes came
(8:58:43 PM) MeiYun: i do hope roxy is a spy but she hasnt been around so evidence against her is getting smaller
(8:58:53 PM) Donald: right
(9:01:49 PM) MeiYun: do you have any other questions or concerns for me
(9:02:00 PM) Donald: not at the moment
(9:02:29 PM) Donald: I may come back later with questions about Roxy, I hope to question her when she gets back
(9:02:36 PM) Donald: But for now, I think I'm good
(9:03:21 PM) MeiYun: fair enough
(9:14:24 PM) Donald: And if you have anything else to ask me later, feel free to
(9:14:32 PM) Donald: Thank you for talking with me about this
(9:16:08 PM) MeiYun: i have no question for you right now
(9:16:22 PM) MeiYun: just one, can you post in this thread?
(9:16:31 PM) MeiYun: spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg90999&thread=751&page=1
(9:16:54 PM) Donald: Sure, I will when I have the time
(9:17:02 PM) Donald: oh, is this over you going invisible?
(9:17:14 PM) MeiYun: yeah they like suspect me that i could be talking to a spy
(9:17:52 PM) Donald: okay, I have a lot to say aobut that then
(9:41:21 PM) MeiYun: nevermind i think its ok naw
(9:41:24 PM) MeiYun: now
(9:44:56 PM) Donald: already posted
(9:45:10 PM) Donald: it's more of a point of going invisible in general, so I think it's good to get out
(9:45:15 PM) Donald: but I don't want to encourage it
(9:47:34 PM) MeiYun: ok

[Donald]

Kirsten said:

(7:36:39 AM) Kirsten: hi
(7:36:49 AM) Donald: Hi Kirsetn
(7:36:52 AM) Donald: *Kirsten
(7:36:59 AM) Kirsten: I feel finally caught up
(7:37:06 AM) Donald: That's good
(7:37:24 AM) Donald: How are you feeling about our team?
(7:37:38 AM) Kirsten: I feel like a large portion of it are people I think are citizens
(7:37:51 AM) Kirsten: my spy suspects happen to be largely centered around the opposite team
(7:38:08 AM) Kirsten: who do you plan on voting?
(7:38:36 AM) Donald: Right now I'm considering Roxy, but I want to hear from her first.
(7:38:50 AM) Donald: I'm sending her a PM now, because I don't know when she'll get back, so I hope to hear from her that way before exile
(7:39:01 AM) Kirsten: -vote?
(7:39:09 AM) Donald: yeah
(7:39:23 AM) Donald: my other thought is on Gretchen, the other night in our team chat, don't know if you saw it
(7:39:27 AM) Kirsten: I was asking you you planned to -vote
(7:39:36 AM) Kirsten: yeah, i read that chat
(7:39:38 AM) Donald: oh, minus vote
(7:39:44 AM) Kirsten: it was an abomination on my eyes...so much mass confusion
(7:40:00 AM) Donald: I'm doing Rey for now
(7:40:55 AM) Donald: Who are you going to -vote?

(7:41:05 AM) Kirsten: I'm going to -vote either Ed or Georgia
(7:41:20 AM) Kirsten: Two players I find citizen who I know will be getting votes
(7:41:36 AM) Kirsten: my +vote right now is for gretchen
(7:41:49 AM) Kirsten: with an honorable mention to William, for lack of a better choice
(7:44:36 AM) Donald: I got a good cit feel from Georgia in the team talk
(7:44:51 AM) Kirsten: based on what?
(7:44:52 AM) Donald: She was very insightful and thought through her arguments very well
(7:45:02 AM) Kirsten: I agree
(7:45:15 AM) Donald: The team talk was the most interaction I've had with her this game, we only talked a little bit before Exile 1
(7:47:08 AM) Kirsten: I've gotten a citizen feeling from every single interaction I've had with her the entire game.
(7:47:29 AM) Kirsten: I really haven't seen anything that makes me think she's a spy
(7:47:39 AM) Kirsten: Why Roxy?
(7:49:24 AM) Donald: When I was reviewing my conversations with her, she didn't commit much to her opinions, and didn't contribute much to the discussion either. She's one who seems to 'post without posting' i.e. IIRC, she's the one who in our burg said "I have some suspects, but I don't want to mention them, yet"
(7:53:00 AM) Kirsten: still here?
(7:53:07 AM) Donald: still here
(7:53:16 AM) Donald: did you get the first thing I said?
(7:53:37 AM) Kirsten: I asked "why roxy" didn't get anything past that point
(7:53:54 AM) Donald: When I was reviewing my conversations with her, she didn't commit much to her opinions, and didn't contribute much to the discussion either. She's one who seems to 'post without posting' i.e. IIRC, she's the one who in our burg said "I have some suspects, but I don't want to mention them, yet"
(7:54:45 AM) Donald: When I talked with her about Mei, she said very little, and then my opinion on Mei started building off of that. I was building off of my assumptions more than what she said
(7:55:26 AM) Kirsten: hmm
(7:56:05 AM) Kirsten: what do you think about Gretchen being so adamant that Roxy be lynched. What are your thoughts on the fact that one of your top two suspects wants the other one dead.
(7:57:06 AM) Donald: It's certainly possible that Gretchen could be bussing, but it sounds more likely that Gretchen is going for an easy lynch
(7:58:03 AM) Kirsten: does that affect your opinion of Roxy? That you think Gretchen is going for an easy lynch?
(7:58:13 AM) Donald: So I'm hoping Roxy will reply to my PM before Exile, but if she doesn't, I'll probably stick with a Gretchen vote at this time, because Roxy has a fair excuse of being gone for Mem weekend, and as I said, Gretchen could be going for the easy lynch
(7:58:15 AM) Donald: it does
(7:58:35 AM) Donald: I would guess Roxy is likely a citizen if Gretchen turns up a spy
(7:58:57 AM) Kirsten: agreed
(8:00:54 AM) Kirsten: what are your thoughts on Mei Yun right now?
(8:01:35 AM) Donald: I haven't thought of her too much, since she's not on my team, but I'm still somewhat suspicious of her
(8:02:21 AM) Donald: I'm happy I finally talked to with her. Her main defense against how reactive she was to being suspected was with how close the voting was, she had to in order to avoid being exiled.
(8:03:33 AM) Donald: and I would agree that if she didn't focus as much as she did, maybe she would have been exiled. The votes were really close and scattered, but I don't know how she could have seen that votes on her would be close from the first moment somebody suspected her
(8:05:27 AM) Donald: What is your opinion of Mei?
(8:05:43 AM) Kirsten: I think if Mei Yun is a spy the voting record for the first exile will become extremely relevant
(8:05:53 AM) Kirsten: I'm 50/50
(8:06:05 AM) Kirsten: I could see her go either way, really
(8:06:40 AM) Kirsten: I didn't find any of the reasons people were voting her to really convince me she was a spy, but I also have not seen really anything from her that makes me believe she is a citizen eitehr.
(8:08:02 AM) Donald: Have you managed to meet any of the new players on our team? And what do you think of them?
(8:08:54 AM) Kirsten: ed - haven't talked to
(8:09:03 AM) Kirsten: pete - haven't talked to
(8:09:12 AM) Kirsten: thor-jaya, barely talked to
(8:09:18 AM) Kirsten: haven't spoken with Tiberius
(8:09:51 AM) Kirsten: I spoke some with rey, when I questioned him about the almathea exile. I think he is highly likely to be a citizen from what I've seen.
(8:10:03 AM) Kirsten: I've spoken a lot with Yvette/and some with Ariel
(8:10:22 AM) Kirsten: Both I consider likely to be citizens, although I find myself not agreeing with a lot of their stances on other players
(8:11:21 AM) Kirsten: as for stances, I just posted a large post in the team workshop
(8:11:25 AM) Donald: I've gotten a good cit feeling from Rey, and Ariel as well, but I also don't agree with a lot of her views
(8:11:27 AM) Donald: okay
(8:11:36 AM) Donald: Yvette could go either way for me, I need to talk with her some more
(8:11:44 AM) Donald: You haven't talked to Ed yet, so why would you give him your -vote?
(8:12:02 AM) Kirsten: because I feel the way he acted in the team chat makes him likely to be a citzien
(8:12:57 AM) Kirsten: much for the same reasons I didn't think Callahan was a spy. He doesn't gain status as a spy by antagonizing two players (Yvette/Ariel) who seem prone to voting based on their feelings
(8:15:01 AM) Kirsten: although rey has georgia in his suspect list, so I might -vote her
(8:15:17 AM) Donald: Good to know
(8:15:31 AM) Kirsten: what do you think about Ed?
(8:15:35 AM) Donald: Rey has my -vote now, but I don't know that anybody will actually be voting him
(8:15:58 AM) Donald: I got a good citizen vibe from him at first, when I talked to him privately
(8:16:10 AM) Donald: In team chat, he seemed like a big goofball
(8:16:18 AM) Kirsten: hehe
(8:17:00 AM) Donald: My feelings from team chat lowered him for me, but he's still citizen to me. What he does good are keeping his eyes open to every possibility (Ariel), but he pushes it a bit much.
(8:17:34 AM) Donald: And what I really want to look into is his infatuation with Gretchen. It sounds like they've convo'd quite a bit already in the game, and I want to know how long they've been chatting for
(8:17:56 AM) Donald: And if they've been chatting since Exile 1, which it sounds like, I want to know why when they weren't on the same team
(8:17:58 AM) Kirsten: I was curious about that myself, although I think Gretchen is one of his top suspects right now

[Donald]

stupid linux doesn't run Pidgin properly (surprisingly) and stupid meebo doesn't log for me.... GoGo copy/paste. I've never had so many technical difficulties with a chat client before.

Roxy said:

[18:15] Roxy: hey
[18:16] spies6donald: hi
[18:16] Roxy: how are you?
[18:17] spies6donald: fine, how are you?
[18:17] Roxy: im good
[18:18] spies6donald: What are your thoughts about exile?
[18:19] Roxy: Georgia or Gretchen
[18:20] Roxy: probably going with Georgia
[18:20] spies6donald: Why Georgia?
[18:21] Roxy: There seems to be alot of evidence against her
[18:21] Roxy: and she is flakey.
[18:22] spies6donald: I haven't seen any of the evidence against her
[18:22] spies6donald: If any appeared today, I haven't been online to see any of it
[18:22] Roxy: i didnt like her whole "IM NOT VOTING FOR YOU BUT IM JUST SAYING THAT YOU ARE KIND OF SUSPICIOUS" thing especially after she expressed no concern about it with me
[18:22] Roxy: yeah theres some online
[18:22] Roxy: anyway
[18:22] Roxy: and she has like a bad attitude
[18:29] spies6donald: Well, I don't think a bad attitude makes somebody a spy
[18:29] spies6donald: Calling you suspicious without justification, is, though
[18:29] Roxy: yeah
[18:30] spies6donald: I'm still a little confused about your experience, though. So you've never played mafia or werewolves, but the ORG's that you've played, have they at least been similar to this? A good side and bad side with voting players off and killing at night?
[18:33] Roxy: No.
[18:34] Roxy: I only play survivor orgs
[18:34] spies6donald: oh, okay
[18:34] Roxy: Yeah so this is a new experience for me
[18:34] spies6donald: got it, that is helpful for me to know
[18:36] Roxy: mhm

This is interesting, it opens up a whole new light to me.

[Donald]

Tibs said:

[18:24] Tiberius: OK
[18:24] Tiberius: we are at last
[18:24] Tiberius: online at the same time
[18:24] spies6donald: ahh!
[18:24] spies6donald: *hides*
[18:24] spies6donald: *signs off*
[18:24] spies6donald:
[18:25] Tiberius:
[18:25] spies6donald: Hey Tiberius, how are you?
[18:25] Tiberius: doing alright doing alright
[18:25] Tiberius: though i'm very behind
[18:25] spies6donald: hehe, yeah, I'm trying to read up on all that I've missed today
[18:26] Tiberius: i've bassically not been around since imprisonment
[18:26] spies6donald: yikes! You've missed a lot
[18:27] spies6donald: I think Rey may have posted our team chat from two days ago
[18:27] spies6donald: with how close to Exile it is, that's probably one of the most profitiable areas to read
[18:27] Tiberius: yeah, i just saw that, i'm going to try to read it before i cast a vote, but it's... long
[18:27] spies6donald: yeah, it is
[18:28] spies6donald: but we had everybody posting their suspicions & justifying votes from players who came in from team 1, and then we did a Q&A, so there's a lot of info there to digest
[18:28] spies6donald: Though, it's only good for those who were present, for the rest, you'll have to get a read elsewhere
[18:29] Tiberius: hmm
[18:29] Tiberius: well ok then
[18:29] Tiberius: btw, you said before you had something to show me, is it still revelent
[18:30] spies6donald: It's mostly regarding Roxy's experience, which I'm actually just now starting to talk with her about
[18:31] spies6donald: I don't have my chat log on me now, but it's mostly summed up by this PM I sent her that she replied to
[18:31] spies6donald: How long have you played Mafia and/or Werewolves?

First Game.

Is this your first spy game?

Yes.

What is an ORG? You mentioned it the first time we chatted, but I'm not sure what you mean.

Online Roleplaying Game...we're playing one...

[18:32] Tiberius: ah
[18:32] Tiberius: interesting
[18:32] Tiberius: because ORG actually means
[18:32] Tiberius: Online Reality Game which makes Spies not an ORG
[18:32] spies6donald: I asked her
[18:32] Tiberius: ORG would be Survivor, Big Brother, ect
[18:32] spies6donald: she said ORG is Online Roleplaying Game, just so you know how she interprets it
[18:33] Tiberius: alright
[18:33] spies6donald: I'm awaiting her response to my next question, because mostly what I'm looking at is, whether or not she's faking being a n00b spy player.
[18:34] spies6donald: If I'm not mistaken, Sam pulled people from various mafia/werewolf boards
[18:34] spies6donald: okay, I just got an answer from her
[18:34] spies6donald: [18:30] spies6donald: I'm still a little confused about your experience, though. So you've never played mafia or werewolves, but the ORG's that you've played, have they at least been similar to this? A good side and bad side with voting players off and killing at night?
[18:33] Roxy: No.
[18:34] Roxy: I only play survivor orgs
[18:34] spies6donald: that makes some sense
[18:34] Tiberius: i know for a fact that Sam advertises at a few survivor boards too
[18:35] spies6donald: I just knew there had to be somewhere through which she had been invited
[18:35] spies6donald: so she couldn't have had literally 0 experience...
[18:36] Tiberius: i mean
[18:36] Tiberius: the reason i was able to pick that out about her
[18:36] Tiberius: is because i too came into this game with only survivor experiance
[18:36] spies6donald: okay
[18:36] Tiberius: i mean i knew the basics from playing at camp
[18:36] Tiberius: but i understood
[18:37] Tiberius: her weird logic
[18:37] Tiberius: because it seemed survivorish to me
[18:37] spies6donald: okay, I think I'm going to have to review a couple of survivor games, then
[18:38] spies6donald: to be able to see your and Roxy's perspectives better
[18:40] Tiberius: not a bad idea
[18:40] Tiberius: do you know the basics of how the show works? because even that would tell you a bit
[18:40] spies6donald: the show, yse
[18:40] Tiberius: alright
[18:41] spies6donald: Does it matter much which season? I know there were some changes between seasons, and I don't know most of them
[18:41] spies6donald: But the teams aspect reminded me of the team aspect we've been using, to a small extent
[18:42] Tiberius: the logic
[18:42] Tiberius: she uses in some of her slipups
[18:42] Tiberius: seem like ones that come from being used to a survivor format
[18:42] Tiberius: things like it being ok to vote with a majority
[18:50] spies6donald: I think I'm going home soon, to make it home before exile starts
[18:50] spies6donald: Do you have anything you'd like to ask me before I go?
[18:52] Tiberius: i can't think of anything in particular...
[18:52] Tiberius: well
[18:52] Tiberius: you were on a team with her so
[18:52] Tiberius: i'll ask
[18:52] Tiberius: what are your thoughts on georgia?
[18:53] spies6donald: I've had a neutral feeling about her from the first exile, but after the team chat, I had a strong cit feeling on her
[18:53] spies6donald: She had strong, well thought out opinions and explained her stance with support
[18:53] spies6donald: There's apparently been a case made against her on the baords, I hear, but I haven't seen any of it yet
[18:55] Tiberius: alright
[18:55] Tiberius: thank you that actually helps a lot
[18:55] spies6donald: your welcome
[19:00] spies6donald: see you within the hour Tibs
[19:00] spies6donald: I'm headed home