Episode #2 - Confessionals

[Gretchen]

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Yup. I am lazy. Deal with it.

[Gretchen]

spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive8357857&action=display&thread=695

Mei Yun – I feel from talking with her she is a citizen. She asks questions, she’s not afraid to give her opinions and so on. She started the Roxy case, with good reasons from what I can read. I myself don’t know if Roxy is a spy personally as I’ve never spoken with her but some of the stuff she says does look suspicious. It could be an inexperienced player but this isn’t about Roxy so I’ll stop.

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Note to self. Possibly useful for later. Possibly not.

[Gretchen]

Online for the Imprisonment:
Levi
Oswald
Yvette
Tiberius
Ellis
Pete
Jaya
Ariel

[Gretchen]

spies6.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teamlive9598181&action=display&thread=645

(posted by Rey)
Quote:
spies6almathea (4:50:57 PM):just found out that robert was suspecting me over literally NOTHING
spies6almathea (5:17:37 PM): im in shock still at a conversation i had with robert
spies6almathea (5:19:56 PM): i think robert is pretneding to actively look for spies
spies6almathea (5:20:46 PM): he suspected me and siad i did loads of scummy behaviour over nothing
spies6almathea (5:24:05 PM): ill deal with him providing i survive day 1

*** Is this why Robert was exiled? ***

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[Gretchen]

spies6Tiberius (10:13:56 AM): hiya
spies6gretchen (10:14:17 AM): Hi
spies6Tiberius (10:15:00 AM): i have not spoken with you at all yet, i dunno if we've even been in group chats together, futhermore, your team was always a mystery to me
spies6gretchen (10:16:08 AM): no we haven't spoken at all yet. and haha yes our team was an interesting mix for sure! but we haven't spoken one on one because i am on a completely different timezone to you guys. but today i have off so i was hoping i'd be able to catch up with some of you.
spies6Tiberius (10:16:57 AM): alright good then
spies6Tiberius (10:17:11 AM): i believe i remember seeing somewhere [boris?] that it's a good idea to pm you
spies6gretchen (10:17:42 AM): nope that was donald. and yeah you can always do that. i check in at least twice a day, it's just at different times to most of you.
spies6gretchen (10:18:05 AM): so what have i missed in the last 24 hours or so? i was online for the exile but haven't had a chance until now to get back on.
spies6Tiberius (10:18:25 AM): not much serious has happned from what i can see
spies6Tiberius (10:18:43 AM): i've been noticing that the really interesting suspects... are all on the other team
spies6gretchen (10:19:24 AM): ahah! that does cause an issue then! what i want to do today is have a look through robert's postings and alma's and see if i can dig anything up from those.
spies6Tiberius (10:20:37 AM): it's hard for me to find time to read through old chats/posts
spies6Tiberius (10:20:49 AM): so often i have to rely on other's reviews of them
spies6Tiberius (10:20:51 AM): which is tough
spies6gretchen (10:21:45 AM): yeah that's one advantage i think i may have is that i don't have mass numbers of chats all at once when i am here - so i have the time to read when most of you are sleeping / working / whatever. i think it's probably the only advantage though!
spies6Tiberius (10:22:06 AM): it is good that you have time to read yes
spies6Tiberius (10:22:23 AM): but it's sad that it's because noone else is around when you are XD
spies6gretchen (10:23:00 AM): i know it is! there's a couple that are sometimes on later in the evening, but i think the most i have spoken to is 3 at a time
spies6Tiberius (10:23:50 AM): upsetting
spies6Tiberius (10:23:53 AM): well
spies6Tiberius (10:24:15 AM): i've found that talking about your reads on your previous teammates is a good place to stop :-9
spies6Tiberius (10:24:17 AM): *start
spies6Tiberius (10:24:20 AM): *
spies6gretchen (10:25:10 AM): yeah that's not a bad idea. at least the ones who are in our team i guess. there's so many people, i don't want to confuse everyone.
spies6Tiberius (10:26:02 AM): it's easy to get mixed up
spies6Tiberius (10:26:03 AM): for me
spies6gretchen (10:26:29 AM): i think it's like that for a lot of people. especially those who have never played the game before.
spies6gretchen (10:26:31 AM): brb
spies6Tiberius (10:27:25 AM): alrighty
spies6gretchen (10:29:56 AM): back
spies6gretchen (10:30:06 AM): oooh ahaha slutlicia is funny
spies6Tiberius (10:30:17 AM): i love reading her insight yeah
spies6gretchen (10:30:18 AM): is it concerning i go to her page before ours???
spies6Tiberius (10:31:00 AM): LOL
spies6Tiberius (10:31:02 AM): no of course not
spies6Tiberius (10:31:04 AM): i do too
spies6gretchen (10:31:24 AM): haha awesome
spies6Tiberius (10:31:43 AM): so anyway, as i was saying, i'll start Rey- as is pretty widely known by now, i think rey is the citizenyest citizen who ever citizened in citizenland , and I'm rather shocked he wasn't imprisoned
spies6gretchen (10:32:26 AM): that's the question i was mulling over earlier today before i got online. why wasn't he? because the spies feel bad if he leaves? seems a little odd.
spies6Tiberius (10:32:43 AM): he's the guy in the game who is both very noticeable
spies6Tiberius (10:32:43 AM): AND
spies6Tiberius (10:32:51 AM): seems everyone believes he's a citizen
spies6Tiberius (10:33:28 AM): could be they are trying to frame him on the 'he'd be imprisoned if he was a citizen" thing, as weak of a frame as that'd be
spies6gretchen (10:33:55 AM): true. you have a point. i'd like to know how many of the players are new vs. old
spies6Tiberius (10:34:47 AM): though the other possibility that's been brought up is a yvette frame off the robert imprisonment
spies6gretchen (10:35:32 AM): was he suspicious of yvette? i am yet to read his thoughts. i just read sam's notice that we lost jocelyn. grrrrrrr.
spies6Tiberius (10:36:49 AM): yvette and robert
spies6Tiberius (10:36:55 AM): made open case threads on each other
spies6Tiberius (10:36:59 AM): in their team forum
spies6Tiberius (10:37:02 AM): yeah joc is gone
spies6gretchen (10:37:58 AM): ok well i have to read up on that. it's on my list to do today anyway. i think the strongest point to start with, for me anyway, is looking at almathea's posts. i don't think she was an experienced player and i think some clues will be in her discussions.
spies6Tiberius (10:39:06 AM): did you notice rey had done that a bit?
spies6gretchen (10:40:01 AM): nope haven't gone through that part yet either. plus i like to think for myself first. and then see if anyone else has raised similar points. i may miss something if i look at his first. if that makes sense.
spies6Tiberius (10:41:02 AM): that's a good point
spies6Tiberius (10:41:04 AM): well
spies6Tiberius (10:41:31 AM): most of our group chats invovling her have been posted
spies6Tiberius (10:41:37 AM): somewhere
spies6Tiberius (10:41:45 AM): not sure where, but they tend to have their own threads
spies6gretchen (10:42:04 AM): i am just reading your thoughts on roxy now. did donald ever send you that discussion he mentioned?
spies6Tiberius (10:42:45 AM): not yet
spies6Tiberius (10:42:50 AM): he hasn''t been around since he said that
spies6Tiberius (10:42:53 AM): unless it's in my pms
spies6gretchen (10:43:54 AM): it will be i think. if he sends it. he likes pms. which is possibly noteworthy.
spies6Tiberius (10:44:38 AM): nothing there rifght now
spies6gretchen (10:45:07 AM): ok well if he says he will send it, he will. i would really like to see it too. she's still on my list.
spies6Tiberius (10:45:20 AM): you did vote for her
spies6Tiberius (10:45:22 AM): right?
spies6gretchen (10:46:09 AM): i sure did.
spies6Tiberius (10:46:50 AM): what was your reasons at the time, may i ask?
spies6gretchen (10:48:54 AM): mainly 2 reasons. they are in my posts and i will probably repost them in the new group so everyone can see. but basically it was her inconsistency. first, she wanted me gone - voted with a group of other people to get rid of me at the start. then when i appeared (was 48 hours late due to family stuff) she changed her tone after people started posting that i was worthwhile having around. she then posted that she thinks i should be more active but she hopes i stay around. however, she not once came and spoke with me - either online or by pm. which i found interesting. and also just her responses to others when accused i found a bit odd. maybe a new player, i don't know. i just would have handled it differently.
spies6Tiberius (10:50:15 AM): well to be perfectly honest with you that sounds SLIGHTLY Omgus-ish... though also your whole team struck me that way
spies6gretchen (10:50:55 AM): omgus? what does that mean? i have seen that a couple of times and wondered. and guess what? you're the lucky one who gets to explain it to me!
spies6Tiberius (10:52:46 AM): yay!
spies6Tiberius (10:52:51 AM): i didnt know coming in either
spies6Tiberius (10:53:27 AM): O My God, You Suck, bassically going after someone because they did it first
spies6gretchen (10:54:25 AM): ahaha! well that's not why i voted for her. i don't particularly like her, but to me she had the greatest number of inconsistencies (however small they may be) amongst our crazy ass team. and it was crazy.
spies6Tiberius (10:56:35 AM): alrighty
spies6Tiberius (10:56:47 AM): well
spies6Tiberius (10:57:02 AM): i must log off due to a challenge in a survivor game, so i will speak to you, by pm or AIM, later
spies6gretchen (10:57:55 AM): ok sounds good. thanks for finding me this morning. good luck with your challenge

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First chat with Tiberius.

Seems very experienced. He mentions in his posts about Roxy he thinks she is new or has played Survivor before. I am thinking he has done both. Well now I know he has played Survivor, but I would think he's an old hand at this too. Once you get into Sam's games, I would think you keep playing them!

[Gretchen]

spies6pete (10:26:24 AM): hi gretchen, this is pete
spies6pete is available (10:29:45 AM)
spies6gretchen (10:29:51 AM): hey pete!
spies6pete (10:30:21 AM): whats up, we havent spoken to each other yet, seems like we might as well seize the moment
spies6gretchen (10:31:03 AM): no we haven't! damn timezones are making it pretty difficult most of the time, but today i have a day off, so i am here and was hoping i'd see some of my new team mates around.
spies6pete (10:31:13 AM):
spies6gretchen (10:31:17 AM): i am just starting to read the updates since yesterday.
spies6pete (10:31:21 AM): ( for the timezones obviously)
spies6gretchen (10:31:34 AM): i know it makes it hard
spies6pete (10:32:25 AM): well, you seem to be doing fine to me, so its all good
spies6gretchen (10:32:54 AM): awww thanks. i really want to read up on everything robert and alma have posted today, that's my aim.
spies6pete (10:33:42 AM): im swamped down with work, so I'm just trying to get a good medium sized chat in with as many people as I can....in a few days time I will be free and ready to play like everyone else
spies6gretchen (10:34:57 AM): haha well you're lucky. after today it's back to my "online when most of you are sleeping". up until the weekend anyway. or maybe some time early friday. grrrr. but i do get to read the chats and dissect them without interruption, which may become and advantage.
spies6pete (10:35:28 AM): (by the 'without interruption' bit is that a subtle hint to me?)
spies6gretchen (10:35:39 AM): lmao no!
spies6gretchen (10:36:27 AM): i need to speak to everyone whenever they are online to share ideas - but when you're not, i get to read up on the chats without a million chat boxes around. which is what some of you have to try and get your head around all at once.
spies6pete (10:36:33 AM): sorry it must be what the game is making me into, I read into everything...its kinda worrying
spies6gretchen (10:36:55 AM): ahaha! well it's your job i guess! paranoiaaaaaa
spies6pete (10:37:50 AM): yeah you have to read into every smiley, every comma.....if you take a step back for a minute you realise how weird youre acting
spies6gretchen (10:39:16 AM): ahahaaaa! and there's another benefit for not being online at the same time as you guys! as you will learn, i am australian and have a "different" sense of humour to some of you. i don't take the game all that seriously which i think frustrates a few. but talking with me online may make you suspicious if you don't see the humour in my jokes.
spies6pete (10:40:10 AM): well, Im in the same boat, people sometimes dont get my humour and think its me being utterly suspicious...its like....no, thats me, thats who I am
spies6gretchen (10:40:37 AM): yeah we can't all be the same. or think the same. some people just need to deal with that.
spies6gretchen (10:40:58 AM): bah i just read jocelyn is out. which means we need to find a new vote. i do have some reading to do!
spies6pete (10:42:21 AM): yeah, but I dont think the team ever wanted to get rid of jocelyn.....
spies6pete (10:42:38 AM): all it does is means we can use our negative votes on whoever we like
spies6gretchen (10:43:32 AM): i guess i am concerned about voting off another cit. though i suppose we still have plenty of time. i still think i will vote roxy atm. but having said that i haven't read all the updated thoughts.
spies6pete (10:44:26 AM): id really like roxy to come on though....because, I really would like to get a feel for her before I can say anything
spies6pete (10:44:31 AM): was she in your old group?
spies6gretchen (10:44:42 AM): she was indeed.
spies6pete (10:44:59 AM): did you speak to her?
spies6gretchen (10:46:04 AM): never once online. ever. she wanted me gone initially because i was not here the first 48 hours. then once i appeared and a few people started talking to me, she decided she wanted me to stay and be more active. but even when we were both online she never approached me. not once.
spies6pete (10:46:38 AM): hmmm
spies6pete (10:48:32 AM): well, she will need to come online to refute all these claims either way
spies6gretchen (10:49:06 AM): hasn't she been online yet?
spies6pete (10:49:24 AM): well, not recently, I believe she is away for the weekend
spies6gretchen (10:49:42 AM): ahhh yeah that's right. memorial day. i remember now.
spies6pete (10:50:27 AM): and its even worse for her, because there really isnt any other case that has been presented yet
spies6gretchen (10:51:23 AM): as in another exile pick? (still reading the updated roxy case)
spies6pete (10:51:55 AM): well, as far as im aware no-one has posted something else in our team thing, let me double check
spies6gretchen (10:52:02 AM): THANKS
spies6gretchen (10:52:04 AM): oops
spies6gretchen (10:52:06 AM): * thanks
spies6pete (10:52:10 AM): .....?
spies6gretchen (10:52:16 AM): for checking
spies6pete (10:52:18 AM): what is the thanks for?
spies6pete (10:52:23 AM): o, ok
spies6gretchen (10:52:27 AM): haha
spies6gretchen (10:52:39 AM): i am reading my explanations and doing a google on OMGUS
spies6gretchen (10:52:53 AM): cause everyone in this team uses it and i don't understand what it means
spies6pete (10:56:48 AM): i have no idea, I even had to ask what wifom meant so im not up to scratch with this lingo
spies6gretchen (10:57:34 AM): aha! basically it means ohmygod you suck - as in you went after me first, so i am now going after you back. i think that's the interpretation they are referring to.
spies6pete (10:59:08 AM): ah right ok
spies6gretchen (10:59:34 AM): yes. they use some funny words / acronyms here.
spies6pete (11:01:47 AM): well, I only use the standard ones, the lingo is too advanced, and I know ill use it wrong and look like a fool so yeah wont bother
spies6pete (11:03:29 AM): anyways, gretchen, it was nice to meet you, sorry I cant stay on longer, but work is work is work.
spies6gretchen (11:03:56 AM): i am the same. i don't use it either really. i can't even work out the quoting thing unfortunately!
spies6gretchen (11:04:19 AM): yeah it was nice to meet you too - hopefully we will have another chance before the next exile to discuss thoughts.
spies6pete (11:04:27 AM): id like for us to hoepfully speak again, because (without sounding horrible) we didnt discuss much
spies6pete (11:04:36 AM): yeah, exactly, you just put it nicer
spies6gretchen (11:04:44 AM): it's true we didn't - i agree. and loooooooooool
spies6gretchen (11:04:51 AM): sounds like a plan to me.
spies6pete (11:05:11 AM): gdgd, well yes, chao
spies6gretchen (11:05:18 AM): see ya later

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Seems new. Doesn't want to make himself look silly. Cautious. Is he afraid of slipping up???

[Gretchen]

My idea on voting Roxy has been (mostly) successful.

After Jaya posted what she did I thought it was odd. Very odd. But I stuck to my guns and kept pushing the lynch on Roxy to see what came up. Turns out not a whole lot, and I nearly got my ass Exiled. But I think re-reading her posts, and as I have summarized in our thread, the chances of Roxy being a Spy are slim to none now, and if needed - people in the final group can go back and analyze all the discussions on her from Episode One and Two.

I did feel bad pushing it constantly, but I also don't think she really contributes much apart from the odd smart-ass comment. Which may sound rich coming from me, but I think I put in a bit more effort than using sarcasm / harsh remarks to brush off suspicion. I am actively looking for lurkers and people who latch on. My method may just need a little more refining.

As for Donald and Ed, I can't wait to hear about their reasonings for voting me. Ed posted something lame, but I had no idea Donald was swinging his + vote to me. Sneaky bastard. At least Kirsten explained her somewhat deluded reasonings. Which did come as a bit of a shock considering I had tried to save her ass Exile One. That however may be information I can bring out on a rainy day.

[Judge Sam]

Gretchen wrote some good thoughts but they are tough to find. For example I didn't realize this for a little bit but she wrote some thoughts with each conversation she posted. Unfortunately she created a new topic for each person she talked to and posted it in throughout the game. So topics like Kirsten's won't be shown until Episode 13 even though they contain conversations and thoughts from this episode.