Citizen Database - Episode 1

[Almathea]

It begins; see where you stand with citizens!

Also keep record of where we publicly stand with each other!

[Iris]

Yvette is taking a strong leadership role on my team and she seems to like me. She just defended me in the chat room. Paris chose me as a random example of someone who hasn't contributed much, and I introduced myself to him and said, "I've been active, just mostly talking to members of my own union." Before I said anything she said I'm intelligent and I've contributed.

None of you are on my union team anyway, but she and Ariel are both jockeying for leader of the team, I think. I'm friendly with both of them at the moment, so I'm going to nurture that.

[Donald]

So I was starting to get scared in my group, but things are starting to look up.

Amelia - I haven't talked to yet. Most players have a neutral read on her. Says she's nice, but no strong feelings towards cit or spy.

Georgia - She sounds like she wants to be everybody's friend. She was suspicious of Mei, but quickly lost her suspicions of her upon talking with her, but then shortly thereafter became suspicious of her again. She seems the type to want to be everybody's friend. Mei asked her before the game started if she was a spy, and that's a big reason for suspecting Mei.

Boris - Another leader of our team. He organized players together to start getting everybody's thoughts in. He brought some suspicion upon himself for doing that alone, but got the team more organized and talking about something other than inactives and lurkers.

Oswald - Is suspected by many players for being overly defensive when Mei accused him of being a lurker. I feel he was unjustly marked as such, but if he gets lynched, well, I hope it's after we get Mei or Kirsten lynched cause Oswald is easier to control. He's a nice guy, told me he was torn between me and Mei, but I set him straight on some misconceptions he had about me.

William - Sounds like a mild-mannered smart player. I've had little interaction with him.

Gretchen - The most inactive player on our team. She's apparently on the opposite side of the globe, though, but hardly any interaction with her and she hardly posts on the boards. Mei really dislikes her due to her inactivity. I've sent her a PM to try to contact her, but we'll see if she responds to that even.

Roxy - I've talked with her only a little bit. She's very suspicious of Mei because she is overdefensive and did things such as ask Georgia before the game started if she was a spy. I think I'm on her good side.

Levi - Suspicious of myself and kirsten, but I think most of his suspicions on kirsten have been dealt with, so now he's just suspicious of me. He sounds very friendly.

Kirsten - I've expressed her as my top suspect, but I think Mei is my new top suspect. She's inconsistent with what she believes.

Donald - 'tis me. I've gained some suspicion from a number of players. It sounds like Kirsten is voting for me for sure. Levi will probably be voting me as well. Other players are suspicious of me, but to about the same degree as they're suspicious of anybody else. Some people had misconceptions about me, which I cleared up.

Mei Yun - She's apparently taking a lot of heat from many players. Oswald, Georgia, and Roxy all suspect her. She has been very aggressive against inactive/lurker types, seems to be trying to take a leadership role, and tries overly hard to make sure she doesn't slip up anywhere.

[Almathea]

Levi and Kirsten suspect Donald

Robert suspects me

Ariel used me in an example of people being exiled.

On our team Jenya is heavily suspected by TIbz and Rey, possibly Paris and Ellis.

Jaya is seen as very lurkery, Joss as inactive. Me, Jason and Pete as hard to read.

[Donald]

Amelia is starting to be seen as quite a lurker, and some people are starting to suspect her for it.

[Jason]

Paris - Is fairly smart and seems to be on track with some of his supicions. He's sort of suspected by others so he's a possible exile candidate. His top two suspicions are Jaya and Pete... That can't possibly be good.

Gabriela - She hasn't really been around a great deal but she hasn;t been absent really, either. Her top two suspects are Alma and Rey... we need to have her go after Rey before Alma.

Jocelyn - She's completely disappeared. I think she makes a good scapegoat IF we can manage to accomplish getting her exiled without LOOKING like we're getting her exiled.

Rey - His personality is going to keep him on the rocks, which is GREAT as long as he targets citizens... If he votes for citizens, is an ass about it, and is wrong he'll have his hands quite full, which would be wonderful for all of us, but, unfortunately, his top suspect is Alma. His secondary suspects are Jaya and Paris. If we can just get through this first round I don't think he'll be a problem... but we do have to get through this first round first -_-

Tiberius - He's getting to be well-trusted in the Burg, other than by Jenya anyway... I think that's a conflict we should subtly encourage. He trusts me and I'd like to keep him around if we can because I think it'll be beneficial for us all; through him I can find out what Rey is doing and Rey is potentially one of our biggest threats. His top suspects at the moment are Paris, Pete, and Jocelyn. Obviously we'd like to see him go after Paris or Jocelyn!

Jenya - Has gotten herself into some early trouble but she doesn't really seem to be in enough danger... Several people that witnessed her thing with Paris noted that it was weird but that they think she's a citizen. That's not good for us. Her top suspects seem to be Jaya and Tiberius; if we can get her to stay on Tiberius' heels that'd be nice, but it'd be nicer to get her exiled.

Ellis - His analysis/ideas post consisted of him listing a bunch of people and saying he had no reads on them... I think we should point that out and refer to Tiberius' divisive post AND Robert's "seeming to be helpful vs. leading" post and nail him. We MIGHT be able to force an Ellis lynch this round, which would be great.



As for us spies:

Alma - Suspected heavily by Rey and also by Gabriela. I don't think she's in much trouble this round, but she does need to be careful and alert; things could change quickly, and there's always next round to plan for.

Pete - Suspected by Tiberius and Paris. I'd say he's in mild danger but it shouldn't be a problem; and I think it's a short term problem rather than a long term one. Fortunately, though, a few people have openly said they get strong citizen vibes from him so I don't think a lynch would happen.

Jaya - Suspected by Paris, Rey, and Jenya. I'd say she's in the most trouble out of our group's spies right now. We have 11 people in group so in a pure 2 person split it only takes 6 votes to exile, and I seriously doubt that it'll be a two person split... so it's possible that 4 votes might be all it takes. We need you to get out there more, Jaya, people are calling you a lurker and that's going to get you killed

Jason - Not on anybody's suspect lists so far, and that would be suspicious to me if I were a citizen so I'm going to try to change that next round. For now, though, I'm not gonna lie, I'm glad to not have the heat turned on me yet.



So... my thoughts for group 2... We should try to get Ellis, Jenya, or Jocelyn exiled, and of course if we can do so while separating ourselves that would be much better.

[Almathea]

Oh my god. I thought this was the Discussion thread on our team forum. I actually let out a gasp in the library. I was like OMG JASON YOU FICK YOU GAVE 4 SPIES AWAY

[Jason]

Hahahahahahaha that would have been so lame if I did that!

[Donald]

I double check and sometimes triple check which boards I'm in before I post anything here I'm paranoid of doing that.

[Iris]

Jason, re Jocelyn...if she's still missing there is a 2 vote self-vote penalty for failing to vote. So if she doesn't show up, she'll have 2 votes on her already that a lot of people are likely to forget about.

That's what my team was doing with Thor but now he's shown up.

And I'm totally paranoid about what I'm posting where too.

[Jason]

Unfortunately basically nobody seems to want to vote for Jocelyn anymore, other than us :/ I think Ellis might suddenly be our best bet because I think it'd be a bad idea for all four of us spies to vote together on Jocelyn, and I think that's what it would take to get her out at this point.


And yeah... I've done something similar in a past Spies game and I learned my lesson... I check everything a million times before posting now -_-

[Amelia]

If you all vote Jocelyn, they'd never suspect that you were ALL Spies. I'm not saying it's the best move, but it would be full of misdirection.

[Iris]

I tend to agree with Amelia here. I just read something in my workroom saying they're guessing each team has, on average, 2 Spies, and that the Spies would NEVER all vote for the same person.

[Jason]

I've already made it too clear to several people in IMs that I wouldn't vote for Jocelyn this round, that was probably a bad decision on my part but I really can't vote for her now without doing a complete 180 on everything I've said the past 2 days and doing that would be almost suicide.
If she comes back and posts a BAD defense I can make that work but I've already said straight forward in the Spies6chat that I don't plan on voting for her until she comes back and has a chance to respond to the questions/accusations.

[Iris]

William's post #21 in the exile thread for Union 264:

He says that Citizens shouldn't be afraid to talk about power roles because they're the only thing they have to use against Spies. I'm phrasing this badly...the post sounds like he's trying to get people to reveal their powers.

Never having played Spies before, I don't know what the consensus here is on this, but in Mafia, that would be attacked very very badly. Only scum try to out power roles. Just pointing it out in case it can be used against him.

[Jason]

Yeah I think that's worth attacking him for, it has been in past Spies games... I'm surprised it hasn't already blown up on him.

[Donald]

A note on Rey's thoughts:

(12:23:34 AM) Rey: citizens to me: thor (due to interactions/reactions), yvette (due to interactions/reactions), mei yun (due to interactions/reactions), jason (due to taking a lead role with me in exiling almathea as well as his interactions), jenya (due to interactions/reactions), ellis (due to reactions and his help in almathea's exile)

[Iris]

Oh, the William thing...turns out I was reading it wrong. He was saying citizens with roles shouldn't HIDE, not that they shouldn't hide their roles.

[Donald]

I like Gabriela. She's a good player, and actually plays smart. Which means we can use her to help catch players who act really scummy and make stupid mistakes.


We should keep Gabby around Please please please?

[Kirsten]

Jun 1, 2009 2:01:11 GMT -5 Donald said:

I like Gabriela. She's a good player, and actually plays smart. Which means we can use her to help catch players who act really scummy and make stupid mistakes.


We should keep Gabby around Please please please?

In episode 3, Gabriela catches Donald for not reading cases in the burg.

Ouch?!?

[Donald]

She catches me for not reading a thread that states somebody had been replaced because I had no time to read the boards and by the time I was able to, it was no longer on the first page, along with many other threads I never read.

[Ariel]

You say tomato, I say... tomato. Huh. It's hard to type different pronunciations.

[Rey]

Tom-ate-toe? Tom-ah-toe?