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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 3, 2009 2:33:56 GMT -5
Hmm... ofc it's up to you but I'm just wondering if there isn't a better way to talk about this Imprisonment thing. I'm probably out of the loop but just reading through the last two Imprisonment threads and trying to think what you were thinking made my head spin lol. It's kinda like you all are lined up in a conga line that whiplashes up and down haha. One person says one name seemingly out of nowhere and then the whole conga line snaps over to that direction. I think that happened 3 times with Imprisonment #5. Obviously changing your opinion is good and ok. And I'm sure you guys talked about it but just laying out more information might help. Here's what as worked in the past. Look at this picture: (black out Mei Yun and Yvette) Perhaps find four or five people that you think should be Imprisoned. List them and write a sentence or two. Then maybe find a few people that you want to keep around and list them. Then when 3 or 4 people do this, y'all can kinda see where a rough consensus appears, maybe there's a few people who appear on a lot of the 'want gone' lists and not on the 'want safe' lists. So maybe with this you narrow it down to 3 or so people and pick your #1 target out of there. It is okay to pick as your #1 target someone who you are not sure other Spies would pick. In that case just say "first choice is Bob, but if no one else votes for Bob then my second choice is Sue" or whatever. maybe a third choice, maybe not if you check this thread a lot for updates. just an idea, maybe I'm not reading the right aim convos (though i read some good spy on spy ones tonight! , but it might help!
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Post by Jason on Jun 3, 2009 8:27:07 GMT -5
Alright, lets try to not do a conga line this time... I'll start it off by saying that JASON NEEDS TO BE IMPRISONED!! Who's with me!?!?!?!?
j/k Here's who I'd like to see gone:
Gabriela - She's talking sense. She was the one to end the chaotic drama and fighting last night after the Yvette exile, which spoiled some of our fun and lessened Citizen feuds that could have exploded into several rounds of us all being safe. None of us really have her in our pocket, either.
Mirela- She's dead on with her suspicious; the only thing she's lacking is influence and the boldness to push for one of us. She has our number and needs to go soon - she wants to go after Amelia and Donald and used to want to go after Iris.
Khaled - He's calculating and fairly accurate on his suspicions right now and it'd be good to see him go sooner than later, but we can afford to hold off on him since he doesn't have much influence.
Ellis - I know we've appreciated Ellis so far but he worries me as being the one person that could ruin everything for Pete and I from the Team Clusterfuck mini-alliance thing going on. I'd like to see him go kind of soon and I don't think the Burg would expect it.
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Post by Donald on Jun 3, 2009 10:32:11 GMT -5
Ariel, Kirsten, Gabriela, Khaled.
I think Kirsten's bad for today, Ariel we can probably get away with not exiling. Hopefully I'll post more thoughts before deadline.
Gabby I talked with for the first time, and I think she can be harmful to us.
Vote: Gabriela
I don't know how much time I'll have to change this imprisonment vote, but I'll try to be on today/tomorrow to post more, talk more, and make a more educated vote.
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Post by Iris on Jun 3, 2009 11:08:01 GMT -5
I think Gabriela is a dangerous player so I'd be okay with her.
Right now imprisoning Khaled would pretty much guarantee I'd be gone next round, so I'm not on board for that.
I have a couple of crazy ideas too though. If we imprisoned Levi it would make Kristen look very, very bad. And if we imprisoned Roxy it would make Georgia look very, very bad.
I'd wait on Ariel until I see who she suspects from last night's Exile, because everyone expects that and it's better to confuse them.
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Post by Donald on Jun 3, 2009 11:58:48 GMT -5
Roxy's not a bad choice.
I'm all for making Georgia look bad. She's not a huge threat, but she doesn't help us much either, so forming a bandwagon on her from a Roxy death helps our cause, and also derails the Yvette voting implosion.
Also, Roxy is a follower, mostly, but the chances of her following somebody other than us onto bandwagons is too great for me to want to keep her around.
Roxy and Gabriela look like the best two options to me, presently. I'd still like to hear everybody else's thoughts, though.
Also, on Ariel, I think we should keep her on our list to eventually imprison, but not for a while. Some people are suspicious of her, just for her and her actions. Other suspicions on her arise from her not being killed yet. If we avoid imprisoning her, players may get paranoid and try to exile her.
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Post by Pete on Jun 3, 2009 17:08:16 GMT -5
Personally I feel I have a fairly decent sway on Roxy, especially after the events that happened last exile (man I say as if it was ages ago, Im talking about the Yvette one)...I dont mind letting someone go who I have sway over, but I feel it needs to be for a good cause....I dont quite feel that that is the case, people are already looking at Georgia, if Roxy is gone, people might think 'ah the spies are trying to make her look even worse then she is, she cant be a spy' I do agree with the Gab thing, she is intelligent, and I dont like that Vote: Gabriela
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Post by Jason on Jun 3, 2009 17:21:52 GMT -5
I'd be fine with Roxy but right now I think Gabriela's got the highest chance of causing us annoying trouble.
Vote: Gabriela
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Post by Donald on Jun 3, 2009 17:30:41 GMT -5
Who are some players you'd each like to see us keep around?
For instance, I think Jenya's been a great ally, and she doesn't even know it.
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Post by Jason on Jun 3, 2009 20:24:54 GMT -5
Jenya is our MVP!! We can ride with her until ear the very end.
As for others:
I think Tiberius should stick around for a little while because he's cool. Thor should stick around because he hasn't been very aggressive. Oswald should stick around for the same reason as Thor.
And then there are people I thinkw e shouldn't Imprison because they'll be so easy to Exile...
Levi because Kirsten will push him til she gets him out. Kirsten because she'll look bad when Levi is a Citizen. Georgia because people seem to hate her and she'll be very easy. William because Rey and Jenya and company will get rid of him for us.
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 3, 2009 22:53:37 GMT -5
The following people are Immune from Imprisonment #4: Ed is Immune because you picked him for Imprisonment #5.
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Post by Jason on Jun 3, 2009 23:24:01 GMT -5
Oh hell, there IS another role out there...
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Post by Donald on Jun 4, 2009 0:14:02 GMT -5
I want Ed OUTTA HERE! I'm guessing it's Jenya's boosted ability.
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Post by Donald on Jun 4, 2009 0:16:11 GMT -5
I can't be on at all tomorrow, so I'm finalizing my vote.
Vote: Gabriela
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Post by Donald on Jun 4, 2009 0:35:48 GMT -5
I've been makin a fun little list in my confessional. I thought I'd post it here:
Ellis? I don't know where to place Ellis.
Lynchable: Oswald Roxy William Levi Kirsten Jenya Boris Faith Mirela Gretchen Georgia
Late Lynchers: (Townish, but can probably get lynched later in the game) Thor Rey Khaled
Very likely town/hard to lynch: Tiberius Ariel
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Post by Jason on Jun 4, 2009 2:22:37 GMT -5
Ellis will be very hard to Lynch... I can guarantee that Rey, Tiberius, Jenya, and Levi won't vote to exile him and Pete and I can't either unless we want to look odd... I agree with basically all the others though, and that means Tiberius and Ariel should probably go soon :/
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Post by Iris on Jun 4, 2009 8:53:42 GMT -5
Vote Gabriela
Because I agree she's dangerous. I still think Roxy's a good choice though, she'll make more than Georgia look suspicious.
Faith still trusts me apparently, she's posting that now she believes the Robert/Yvette thing was ALL misguided citizens. I think the longer we keep Faith around, the better, but some suspicion will probably go on her for the silencing.
Jason, did you use your power this time? If so, on who?
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Post by Amelia on Jun 4, 2009 13:21:52 GMT -5
Well, Gabriela is definitely dangerous. I really wish we could off Ariel at the moment since everyone trusts her completely.
I would like to see Kirsten stay around. I had a great chat with her and she doesn't suspect me at all.
I would like to see Mirela go before Gabs, though. She is dangerous and has two of us pegged at the moment. It'd be quite the "frame job" if we offed her when she suspects me and Donald.
Vote: Mirela
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 4, 2009 18:43:29 GMT -5
You chose Gabriela.
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Post by Jason on Jun 4, 2009 19:16:22 GMT -5
P.S. Jason used his power to deflect from Jenya to Tiberius... that way if Ellis gets the Investigation and checks her out to make sure he'll be confused, and he's already untrusting of her even though she told him she has a role so that could cause the Cit alliance of Ellis, Rey, Jenya, Tiberius, Kirsten, and Mirela to split apart (Yes, Ellis has brought Kirsten and Mirela into the mix but he's also excluding Jenya from his PMs now).
If I'm going down I'm going to leave chaos in my wake, that's for damn sure.
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Post by Gabriela on Aug 15, 2009 7:39:22 GMT -5
I'm really glad you guys found me dangerous. Then again two of you (Iris and Donald) I openly suspected and voted against, LOL. But I blame Jason for bringiing up my name in the first place!!! Bad Jason, breaking up our "epic team trust group".
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Post by Ariel on Aug 15, 2009 10:46:47 GMT -5
My name was mentioned a lot in this thread. *egoist*
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Post by Kirsten on Aug 15, 2009 14:39:20 GMT -5
My name was mentioned a lot too! However, it was as someone you think you could get exiled after Levi was a citizen...
I wish we had exiled Levi, to be honest. I would have loved to have the spies go after me, would have made it easy to find them.
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Post by Jason on Aug 16, 2009 21:43:24 GMT -5
@ Gabriela - Yeah... Sorry about that! But you truly were someone I could see putting the pieces together before anybody else, so it was definitely a compliment.
@ Kirsten - I would definitely have not gone after you... That's the Citizens' job!
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