Post by Jason on Jun 25, 2009 12:45:22 GMT -5
Well, clearly Rey is now our new MVP over Jenya, at least over the next few episodes! He's going to be Exiled next; I don't see any way around that, really. So the question is, how do we get the most out of this?? I have a few thoughts on what we should and shouldn't do.
1. We shouldn't Imprison Jenya. She still has the Protector role; how do I know??
So... there MIGHT be an immunity out there and I should bounce one to her JUST 'in case'?? My guess is that she's going to stop using the Exile immunity ability for a round or two and keep using the Imprisonment Immunity one so that she 'proves' she doesn't have the big role.
So why shouldn't we Imprison her??
Kirsten and I had a convo about when I knew about Ellis' Imprisonment, so I sent her a clip of a conversation of Jenya and myself. In the convo Jenya alludes to the fact that I knew about Ellis being the Protector before anyone else... But I really didn't. So I basically told Kirsten that I had no defense other than 'I didn't know' and that she could ask Jenya to find a log to prove otherwise. Jenya responded with:
She believes that Kirsten is a Spy. I think she's trying to leave me in hot water by not backing me up NOW because she finally trusts me and wants Kirsten to think she can exile me and thus not have me Imprisoned. So it's vital that Jenya stay so it doesn't look like I'm trying to shut her up before she can 'nail' me with a conversation that doesn't exist.
2. I think that Kirsten should stay. Jenya wants Kirsten gone and she's going to pursue her. And plus I can't have it look like I'm trying to shut HER up, either...
And besides, Kirsten's current suspect list, while it contains myself and Amelia now I'm sure, isn't that big of a threat. She also suspects several Citizens which is what we want to see.
3. We need to listen to Rey:
LOL. Basically we need to leave players from the Stronghold alone because there's only 3 of them and he's convinced one of them has to be a Spy. And we should also take a few more out of Clusterfuck but I do think we should slow down a bit with that because we're running out of people that aren't Spies...
Here's the lists of those original teams, in case you've forgotten (I know I have, I had to look it up):
Team Clusterfuck - Jason, Pete, Jenya, Rey, Tiberius
Team Stronghold - Mirela, Ariel, Khaled
Team Mei Yun's Court - Boris, Roxy, Levi, Georgia, Kirsten, Oswald, Amelia, Gretchen
Wow, Rey has a very valid point; next to NO ONE has been eliminated from that original Mei Yun's Court team. Fortunately for us his point happens to be totally wrong and helpful to us >; D
So with all of that being said, I think these people are prime Imprisonment candidates over the next few rounds:
Tiberius
Gretchen
Oswald
Jenya
Khaled
If we imprison those people, we win. Meanwhile these are the people we can expect to exile and should be preparing for:
Rey
Ariel
Kirsten
Mirela
Boris
If we exile these people, we win
I think we can honestly attain victory with all three of us still in the game at this point. I think people's attention has shifted from Amelia to Rey and although it MIGHT shift back after Rey's gone, hopefully we can keep things moving onto other people.
Also, Pete, how do you feel about me calling Rey out for being SO sure that you're a Citizen?? It could make you look better when Rey flips Citizen or simply cast more light on you, so it's definitely your call.
1. We shouldn't Imprison Jenya. She still has the Protector role; how do I know??
sPIEs6Jason (1:44:20 AM): This is such a mess
spies6jenya (1:44:40 AM): Will you be so kind as to bounce a protect to me for the upcoming imprisonment?
spies6jenya (1:45:01 AM): I think I'm going to be targeted considering Sam just told everyone the Spies picked me.
sPIEs6Jason (1:45:09 AM): So Ellis wasn't the Protector? lol
spies6jenya (1:45:11 AM): So I'm as close to confirmed as they get.
spies6jenya (1:45:15 AM): Ellis was.
sPIEs6Jason (1:45:19 AM): Yeah you are...
spies6jenya (1:45:37 AM): Note: there wasn't an exile protect.
sPIEs6Jason (1:45:42 AM): We have another immunity something out there? just tell me the name and I'll keep you safe
spies6jenya (1:45:44 AM): Because Ellis died.
sPIEs6Jason (1:46:15 AM): the name of who to bounce from that is -_-
spies6jenya (1:46:30 AM): Oh, you can bounce from anyone to me, just tell me who.
spies6jenya (1:46:42 AM): That way, if I'm the protector, I live, if not, I'm screwed anyway
sPIEs6Jason (1:46:52 AM): Lol fair enough!
sPIEs6Jason (1:47:06 AM): We need to know who knew William had a role
sPIEs6Jason (1:47:27 AM): And if Rey's name is on that list scratch that idea because that means everyone knows
sPIEs6Jason (1:48:33 AM): Saying that for your safety obviously
spies6jenya (1:48:38 AM): Thanks
sPIEs6Jason (1:54:31 AM): Owned
sPIEs6Jason (2:12:37 AM): OK I just deflected from Boris to you... I'm posting it now so there's no way I forget
spies6jenya (2:12:46 AM): Thanks.
sPIEs6Jason (2:13:07 AM): As to whether that helps you any or not... lol is up in the air
spies6jenya (2:13:07 AM): That's episode 8, I believe.
sPIEs6Jason (2:13:12 AM): Indeed
spies6jenya (2:13:22 AM): Well, it's good to keep ambiguity in the air.
sPIEs6Jason (2:13:32 AM): Yeah I don't blasme you
spies6jenya (1:44:40 AM): Will you be so kind as to bounce a protect to me for the upcoming imprisonment?
spies6jenya (1:45:01 AM): I think I'm going to be targeted considering Sam just told everyone the Spies picked me.
sPIEs6Jason (1:45:09 AM): So Ellis wasn't the Protector? lol
spies6jenya (1:45:11 AM): So I'm as close to confirmed as they get.
spies6jenya (1:45:15 AM): Ellis was.
sPIEs6Jason (1:45:19 AM): Yeah you are...
spies6jenya (1:45:37 AM): Note: there wasn't an exile protect.
sPIEs6Jason (1:45:42 AM): We have another immunity something out there? just tell me the name and I'll keep you safe
spies6jenya (1:45:44 AM): Because Ellis died.
sPIEs6Jason (1:46:15 AM): the name of who to bounce from that is -_-
spies6jenya (1:46:30 AM): Oh, you can bounce from anyone to me, just tell me who.
spies6jenya (1:46:42 AM): That way, if I'm the protector, I live, if not, I'm screwed anyway
sPIEs6Jason (1:46:52 AM): Lol fair enough!
sPIEs6Jason (1:47:06 AM): We need to know who knew William had a role
sPIEs6Jason (1:47:27 AM): And if Rey's name is on that list scratch that idea because that means everyone knows
sPIEs6Jason (1:48:33 AM): Saying that for your safety obviously
spies6jenya (1:48:38 AM): Thanks
sPIEs6Jason (1:54:31 AM): Owned
sPIEs6Jason (2:12:37 AM): OK I just deflected from Boris to you... I'm posting it now so there's no way I forget
spies6jenya (2:12:46 AM): Thanks.
sPIEs6Jason (2:13:07 AM): As to whether that helps you any or not... lol is up in the air
spies6jenya (2:13:07 AM): That's episode 8, I believe.
sPIEs6Jason (2:13:12 AM): Indeed
spies6jenya (2:13:22 AM): Well, it's good to keep ambiguity in the air.
sPIEs6Jason (2:13:32 AM): Yeah I don't blasme you
So... there MIGHT be an immunity out there and I should bounce one to her JUST 'in case'?? My guess is that she's going to stop using the Exile immunity ability for a round or two and keep using the Imprisonment Immunity one so that she 'proves' she doesn't have the big role.
So why shouldn't we Imprison her??
Kirsten and I had a convo about when I knew about Ellis' Imprisonment, so I sent her a clip of a conversation of Jenya and myself. In the convo Jenya alludes to the fact that I knew about Ellis being the Protector before anyone else... But I really didn't. So I basically told Kirsten that I had no defense other than 'I didn't know' and that she could ask Jenya to find a log to prove otherwise. Jenya responded with:
sPIEs6Jason (3:25:55 AM): I think Kirsten's going to make a case on me over it... Which I would do the same if I were her, actually
spies6jenya (3:26:06 AM): Pfft, it won't stick.
spies6jenya (3:26:12 AM): I'll bail you out if need be.
sPIEs6Jason (3:26:33 AM): I hopew not... but if it does, and somhow I DO get exiled.. .at least you have more ammo to get Kirsten out if she's a Spy
spies6jenya (3:26:41 AM): You won't be any time soon.
sPIEs6Jason (3:27:01 AM): Lol good I want to figure out who the Spies are first -_-
spies6jenya (3:26:06 AM): Pfft, it won't stick.
spies6jenya (3:26:12 AM): I'll bail you out if need be.
sPIEs6Jason (3:26:33 AM): I hopew not... but if it does, and somhow I DO get exiled.. .at least you have more ammo to get Kirsten out if she's a Spy
spies6jenya (3:26:41 AM): You won't be any time soon.
sPIEs6Jason (3:27:01 AM): Lol good I want to figure out who the Spies are first -_-
She believes that Kirsten is a Spy. I think she's trying to leave me in hot water by not backing me up NOW because she finally trusts me and wants Kirsten to think she can exile me and thus not have me Imprisoned. So it's vital that Jenya stay so it doesn't look like I'm trying to shut her up before she can 'nail' me with a conversation that doesn't exist.
2. I think that Kirsten should stay. Jenya wants Kirsten gone and she's going to pursue her. And plus I can't have it look like I'm trying to shut HER up, either...
And besides, Kirsten's current suspect list, while it contains myself and Amelia now I'm sure, isn't that big of a threat. She also suspects several Citizens which is what we want to see.
3. We need to listen to Rey:
One thing i'd like to point out. I'm 100% confident there are no spies left from Team Clusterfuck.
I've said this time, and time again. I hope that you can trust this when I flip citizen.
We are 100% spy clean. Seriously, the two spies that were in our group voted together.
There was no defending of Almathea, and no last minute switches to Almathea.
If that's not enough, Jenya claimed her role to most of us like three imprisonments before she actually left.
(Edit: Ellis actually had the role)
I'm confident to say that we are all citizens, and the spies are trying to slowly take us all out.
I don't know why some of you are wasting suspicions on Pete and/or Tiberius, but they are not spies.
If I am exiled this round, you MUST trust my judgement!
I knew all the people that were exiled were citizens. I am an extremely effective citizen hunter.
Now, let's look at the remaining players from The Stronghold.
The beginning exile was horribly played, as Callahan was an obvious citizen.
The first exile was so focused on Callahan. The votes were piled high on Callahan.
This can only be the work of spies. As we all know, we located a spy within that group.
I have a huge feeling that there is one more spy left in that group.
This means one of Ariel, Mirela, and Khaled is a spy. It's just a feeling, don't go exiling them because of it.
Mei Yun's Court is the team we should be focusing on the more in my opinion. They still have 8/11 team members living.
Not only that, but I would expect that the spies would split their votes up exile one
if there were quite a few spies in the team, which would explain why the votes were so scattered.
There probably won't be a lot of players getting imprisoned from this group since the spies will need to be able to hide.
I am confident there is 2-3 spies in this group.
I've said this time, and time again. I hope that you can trust this when I flip citizen.
We are 100% spy clean. Seriously, the two spies that were in our group voted together.
There was no defending of Almathea, and no last minute switches to Almathea.
If that's not enough, Jenya claimed her role to most of us like three imprisonments before she actually left.
(Edit: Ellis actually had the role)
I'm confident to say that we are all citizens, and the spies are trying to slowly take us all out.
I don't know why some of you are wasting suspicions on Pete and/or Tiberius, but they are not spies.
If I am exiled this round, you MUST trust my judgement!
I knew all the people that were exiled were citizens. I am an extremely effective citizen hunter.
Now, let's look at the remaining players from The Stronghold.
The beginning exile was horribly played, as Callahan was an obvious citizen.
The first exile was so focused on Callahan. The votes were piled high on Callahan.
This can only be the work of spies. As we all know, we located a spy within that group.
I have a huge feeling that there is one more spy left in that group.
This means one of Ariel, Mirela, and Khaled is a spy. It's just a feeling, don't go exiling them because of it.
Mei Yun's Court is the team we should be focusing on the more in my opinion. They still have 8/11 team members living.
Not only that, but I would expect that the spies would split their votes up exile one
if there were quite a few spies in the team, which would explain why the votes were so scattered.
There probably won't be a lot of players getting imprisoned from this group since the spies will need to be able to hide.
I am confident there is 2-3 spies in this group.
LOL. Basically we need to leave players from the Stronghold alone because there's only 3 of them and he's convinced one of them has to be a Spy. And we should also take a few more out of Clusterfuck but I do think we should slow down a bit with that because we're running out of people that aren't Spies...
Here's the lists of those original teams, in case you've forgotten (I know I have, I had to look it up):
Team Clusterfuck - Jason, Pete, Jenya, Rey, Tiberius
Team Stronghold - Mirela, Ariel, Khaled
Team Mei Yun's Court - Boris, Roxy, Levi, Georgia, Kirsten, Oswald, Amelia, Gretchen
Wow, Rey has a very valid point; next to NO ONE has been eliminated from that original Mei Yun's Court team. Fortunately for us his point happens to be totally wrong and helpful to us >; D
So with all of that being said, I think these people are prime Imprisonment candidates over the next few rounds:
Tiberius
Gretchen
Oswald
Jenya
Khaled
If we imprison those people, we win. Meanwhile these are the people we can expect to exile and should be preparing for:
Rey
Ariel
Kirsten
Mirela
Boris
If we exile these people, we win
I think we can honestly attain victory with all three of us still in the game at this point. I think people's attention has shifted from Amelia to Rey and although it MIGHT shift back after Rey's gone, hopefully we can keep things moving onto other people.
Also, Pete, how do you feel about me calling Rey out for being SO sure that you're a Citizen?? It could make you look better when Rey flips Citizen or simply cast more light on you, so it's definitely your call.