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Post by Judge Sam on Jul 15, 2009 10:38:18 GMT -5
I'm curious how you would rate each person in the game pretending they were Spies at how they did at Spying. Like if Georgia was a Spy, what score would she get? How would she compare to past Spies?
There's 9 people in the game but you don't have to do all of them I guess. How has everyone done if they are Spies?
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Post by DC on Jul 15, 2009 10:49:11 GMT -5
Scale?
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Post by Judge Sam on Jul 15, 2009 10:50:55 GMT -5
whichever, 1-10 I guess, you could compare them to past spies or spies in this game though the latter might not be that interesting lol.
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Post by DC on Jul 15, 2009 14:55:22 GMT -5
Mirela - 5.5. From a watchers perspective, she is totally a Spy. From a dead citizens perspective, she is a Spy? But to the players still in the game, she is a citizen. She apparently has the citizen persona thing down. So she hasn't been exiled yet, and won't be anytime soon. Points to her for lasting, but no points for contributions.
Pete - 5.5. No one thinks he's a Spy but if he is one, he hasn't done anything to further the Spy cause. So he won't be exiled, but he won't really have contributed to the win.
Jason - 10. He won't be exiled. Everyone's telling him information. He hasn't done anything to actually contribute to a Spy exile, which says to me he hasn't done the Spy side any harm. Yet he was voted "most trusted". He'd be like the Bebe of Spies 6.
Kirsten - 8. She is such a strong player, she really is. The random imprisonments would make sense, as they would be needed to hide her and trick the citizens into thinking all the Spies are stupid and/or insane. But part of being a good Spy is prevention and cleanup. If she is a Spy, she didn't put her skills to use to save Almathea/Jaya or prevent Donald's exile. Part of me wants to compare her to spies5Samantha, because they both have the ability to seem logical, intelligent, and trustworthy, and because Samantha's game, like Kirsten's if she is a Spy, was more defensive than offensive. Also, Samantha's major strength was her ability to make friends, and Kirsten in activity 7 was voted the person people most wanted to be friends with post-game.
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Post by DC on Jul 15, 2009 15:03:50 GMT -5
Fatty Gretchen - 2.5. If she's a Spy, she's just about beyond useless. Her team has made so many blunders and I can see her totally contributing to that. She was almost exiled in round 2, she idled out for 2 rounds, she posts nothing but fluff which doesn't help the Spy offensive for killing citizens at all, and she can't even put up the facade of spyhunting, as shown by being voted "most worthless" in activity 7. I bet Gretchenspy would've been like "Iris fake role-claiming and tying Amelia to her is a great idea! You should do that". I'd consider her on par with maybe spies4Faizah, who lasted a long time but didn't actually do anything to kill any citizens.
The other 4 (Levi, Georgia, Jenya, and Boris) I will have to think about.
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Post by xman on Jul 16, 2009 7:12:45 GMT -5
I'm not really going to go into a lot of detail as to why, but I will dole out some points for people.
Jason - 10 - Ditto on what DC said.
Levi - 7 - He's been seen as shady since like episode 2, but here it is episode 11 now and he's still around after a few close exiles. That takes some talent to hold off the wolves (or jackals) of the burg like that.
Kirsten - 6 - I almost want to go lower, but I'll say that because she's avoided suspicions for the most part. The rank is as low as it is though because if she is a spy, she certainly bussed down a fair number of her teammates to reach this point. No bueno.
Pete - 5 - Meh. I have nothing I can say about him.
Mirela - 4 - If she's a spy, she's made it as far as she has with people like Jenya saving her butt as opposed to her actually convincing people to go after someone else.
Jenya - 8 - She's clever. Very clever. Moves like the fake imprisonement, "super cits", and nailing Yvette and Khaled have been good strong moves if she's a spy. Avoided a lot of suspicion until recently. I think people are starting to ask, "why not Jenya?" If she's a cit, I'd probably give her a 3 or 4 for recent events, though she did start off much stronger.
Georgia - 7 - I always want to talk myself into believe she's a spy, but then I'll just look at what she's done, and for whatever reason I turn around and talk myself out of it. I think she's capable of pulling off the recent burg happenings in favor of the spies.
Gretchen - 4 - But pretty much the same as DC again. Nothing really done to make the spies into champions.
Boris - 5 - He's been pretty middle of the road most of the game, so I'll have to just go with middle of the road here as well.
I think that's everyone.
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Post by sluticia on Jul 16, 2009 21:12:53 GMT -5
Pete. 4. Done well at not being suspected but not at getting out their actual targets, which is mainly what a good spy should do.
Levi. 7. Good at dodging suspicion and surviving. Also decent at getting rid of who he wants (Rey).
Jenya. 8. Would have been higher but the burg seems to be turning on her at this point. Great at going after people she wants and getting them out, effectively turning everyone against them.
Mirela. 2. Been generally suspected all game and hasn't had an influence in anything. And was voted least trusted. lol.
Georgia. 6. Deflected suspicion well but hasn't had a really great say in the burg's thought processes so far. Really only stayed in the game, not influenced much.
Kirsten. 9. Generally considered to be citizen and annihilated a lot of targets so far. Mostly spies.
Boris. 7. Been undercover most of the game and had minor say in what's gone down.
Jason. 10. The most well-informed person in the game and a cit in mostly everyone's eyes, even as it gets down to the wire. His opinion is valued the most, is the most trusted, and has a huge sway on how the burg thinks.
Gretchen. 2. Contributed nothing of substance really until this round. Great for comic relief, not so great in the actual game.
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Post by Jaya on Sept 2, 2009 19:49:15 GMT -5
Jason gets a perfect 10. Wow.
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Post by Ellis on Sept 2, 2009 22:16:45 GMT -5
Jason gets a perfect 10. Wow. I'd give him a 9. (Sorry Trey.) Reason: I thought he was either a terrible citizen or a very good spy. The best spy in Spies (Tenchi from Spies 3 IMO) convinced me practically the whole game that he was a good citizen. Jason never managed that for me. |
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Post by Kirsten on Sept 3, 2009 0:30:24 GMT -5
If I was a spy I wouldn't have bused Donald or Iris like that. I'd give Jason a 9 or 10, honestly. He had the knack of manipulating situations to his ends without having the blame fall on his shoulders. He really did absolutely nothing to help the citizens, but managed to look like one to everyone anyway. I'm still annoyed I didn't follow through on my desire to lynch him over the role investigation. In my gut I knew scum had to have won that investigation, especially when they have the likes of Amelia placing shady votes on them. Ugh, sorry, I have a hard time letting go of losses  . |
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Post by Mei Yun on Sept 3, 2009 13:44:24 GMT -5
Jason gets a perfect 10. Wow. I'd give him a 9. (Sorry Trey.) Reason: I thought he was either a terrible citizen or a very good spy. The best spy in Spies (Tenchi from Spies 3 IMO) convinced me practically the whole game that he was a good citizen. Jason never managed that for me. Whole game? Except you tried to Exile me the last Round!  I think Trey did a great job at this game. Although he was more of an independent thinker/player among the Spies. (like Kobe or something). I think it would be interesting had he had Anh/Paris's role... That would be BIG trouble (but lots of drama)! |
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Post by Ellis on Sept 4, 2009 12:47:37 GMT -5
I'm still annoyed I didn't follow through on my desire to lynch him over the role investigation. In my gut I knew scum had to have won that investigation, especially when they have the likes of Amelia placing shady votes on them. Ugh, sorry, I have a hard time letting go of losses . QFE! |
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Post by Jason on Sept 4, 2009 20:41:45 GMT -5
If I was a spy I wouldn't have bused Donald or Iris like that. I'd give Jason a 9 or 10, honestly. He had the knack of manipulating situations to his ends without having the blame fall on his shoulders. He really did absolutely nothing to help the citizens, but managed to look like one to everyone anyway. I'm still annoyed I didn't follow through on my desire to lynch him over the role investigation. In my gut I knew scum had to have won that investigation, especially when they have the likes of Amelia placing shady votes on them. Ugh, sorry, I have a hard time letting go of losses . I was so nervous when you started meddling with the whole role investigation winner because I knew it spelled trouble... That's why I started making sure to talk to you more often and try to weave in an out of actually discussing the game, so that you'd start to think of me in other terms and get rid of that silly notion! |
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Post by Jason on Sept 4, 2009 20:44:51 GMT -5
Jason gets a perfect 10. Wow. I'd give him a 9. (Sorry Trey.) Reason: I thought he was either a terrible citizen or a very good spy. The best spy in Spies (Tenchi from Spies 3 IMO) convinced me practically the whole game that he was a good citizen. Jason never managed that for me. I guess that comes down to what each Spy's goals are... My goal was NOT to come off as a true and great Citizen... My goal was mostly to push the envelope as far as I could and see what I could get away with... I already established in the first 5 games that I come off as way too Cittish for my own good, that would have been boring ; D |
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