Rey
Rey
Amor del Rey
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Post by Rey on Jun 3, 2009 17:29:52 GMT -5
Oh, I thought she was talking to yooou.
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Post by Georgia on Jun 3, 2009 18:41:54 GMT -5
1. Bringing up and using in a case are two different things Levi.
2. Oh no? You don't remember the plan you and Mei concocted? You don't remember me telling you about how Mei aired it publicly?
3. Spreading it around in chats? Seriously? That is all you have? A) First time it was brought up, was in a chat with you; I believe shortly after Sam was done with the opener's chat. B) Second time it was brought up, was in the group chat with Ariel. When I believe you posed the question to everyone "If you had to vote now, who would you vote for?" C) Third time was in a chat with Gretchen and Kirsten.
3. The entire reason the spy slip came up, was because of the question posed. That was my reason; which I said then.
Both of you need to check your facts and information before you open your mouths to speak. Because, right now you both look like complete fools for such blatant and purposeful mis-representing and mis-presenting of facts. I did not use the Spyslip in my case against Mei, if you weren't so forgetful and lazy; you could go back and look. I even stated in my case, that I WASNT using the spyslip, because Mei had thought I was.
Both of you need to take some Ritalin, or Ginko Biloba. I think both would help you tremendously.
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Post by Georgia on Jun 3, 2009 18:43:32 GMT -5
For my entertainment purposes. I would like both of you to continue on twisting information and facts. So when I post the relevant pieces of information, I will be able to see loads of egg on both of your faces.
Thanks so much in advance.
Edit. Kirsten you mind? It still concerns Levi, even if a bit of a tangent.
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 3, 2009 18:51:25 GMT -5
Twisting facts? I believe that's you, sista. What I mean was that you obviously BROUGHT UP THE SPYSLIP. You still did not answer. Why did you even mention it if it wasn't part of your case against Mei? Just to add loose pieces of information? If you didn't really want to use it at all in your case WHY DID YOU EVEN MENTION IT?
Oh and think of a better comeback then taking Ritalin. It's getting really old. Really fast.
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Post by Georgia on Jun 3, 2009 19:04:08 GMT -5
Go back and look through the group chat, I believe you were even there. Or, if you are lazy - which is obvious. Look at .3 three posts up.
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Post by Georgia on Jun 3, 2009 19:10:18 GMT -5
Apparently, I need to dumb some of these words down; and lay it out. Since reading comprehension is definitely not one of your skills.
Group Chat Happened. Ariel was a part of it. Levi (I believe), asked a question to the group. Question was, "If you had to vote right now, who would you vote for?" I said Mei. The reason, because of the spyslip. I said it was weak, but that was my answer to the question.
Time passes. Things Happen. I bring up a case against Mei. It had nothing to do with the Spyslip.
Now, do you understand that? Or should I dumb it down further for you?
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Post by Levi on Jun 3, 2009 21:41:16 GMT -5
1. Bringing up and using in a case are two different things Levi. 2. Oh no? You don't remember the plan you and Mei concocted? You don't remember me telling you about how Mei aired it publicly? 3. Spreading it around in chats? Seriously? That is all you have? A) First time it was brought up, was in a chat with you; I believe shortly after Sam was done with the opener's chat. B) Second time it was brought up, was in the group chat with Ariel. When I believe you posed the question to everyone "If you had to vote now, who would you vote for?" C) Third time was in a chat with Gretchen and Kirsten. 3. The entire reason the spy slip came up, was because of the question posed. That was my reason; which I said then. Both of you need to check your facts and information before you open your mouths to speak. Because, right now you both look like complete fools for such blatant and purposeful mis-representing and mis-presenting of facts. I did not use the Spyslip in my case against Mei, if you weren't so forgetful and lazy; you could go back and look. I even stated in my case, that I WASNT using the spyslip, because Mei had thought I was. Both of you need to take some Ritalin, or Ginko Biloba. I think both would help you tremendously. 1. What does it matter if you "brought it up" or "used it in a case?" Both are two ways of saying "using it as evidence against Mei." Why are you getting so defensive over this? What on earth would I have to gain by lying about this? 2. Here is where I suggest that you go read a dictionary. Please look up the words "conversation" and "plan." Having a conversation and hatching a plan are entirely different things. Mei showed chats that we had to you. We never hatched any kind of a plan. Did we share ideas? Yes. Did we discuss suspects? Yes. Did we discuss the basic fundamental things of Mafia? Yes. Did we ever create a scheme to accomplish anything? No. We did not make fake cases agaisnt each other. We did not start trying to fight so that people didn't think we did not trust each other. We did not try to talk to people in certain ways so as to gain information. We came up with no plan whatsoever. If you need further clarification, may I suggest an online dictionary? You don't even have to run through the alphabet to find the words. You can just type them in. In fact, just copy and paste from this post. Then you won't have to worry about spelling them wrong. ![:D](http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/SorintheSeeker/tophat.gif) 3. Either way, you spread the scumslip train of thought to other players in chat. I never attacked you about this, nor did I try to call you a Spy from it. Your defensive attitude is VERY telling here. Why on earth are you denying what you did? Either way you are a dumbass troll. I'm just trying to figure out if you're a dumbass troll cit or a dumbass troll spy.
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 3, 2009 23:12:12 GMT -5
Since the thread has already been viciously derailed:
Roxy and Georgia: You two attack each other constantly. You two have never voted for each other. You two voted together on Mei Yun. Care to explain your stances on each other?
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Post by Georgia on Jun 4, 2009 1:30:21 GMT -5
Where have I denied bringing up the spyslip?
There is a difference Levi. But nice effort on backtracking and covering your ass. Too bad it isn't working.
You claimed I used it in my case against Mei. I didn't. I used it as the reason; solely for when the question was posed. I did not use it in my case against her, when voting for her at Exile. Big difference.
But continue, resorting to name calling since you obviously have nothing better to say.
I haven't voted for Roxy yet, because she was holding the newbie card. I don't think it is worthwhile to waste an exile on her - unless she is a spy. But there is really so little legitimate information to go on her; and more on others - that it would just be a complete waste at this time.
I hold on to the hope that the Spies will imprison her. But as I said in the chat with her - I doubt that will happen, because I doubt they see her as a threat.
*dies laughing*
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Post by Levi on Jun 4, 2009 10:26:21 GMT -5
Where have I denied bringing up the spyslip? There is a difference Levi. But nice effort on backtracking and covering your ass. Too bad it isn't working. You claimed I used it in my case against Mei. I didn't. I used it as the reason; solely for when the question was posed. I did not use it in my case against her, when voting for her at Exile. Big difference. But continue, resorting to name calling since you obviously have nothing better to say. I haven't voted for Roxy yet, because she was holding the newbie card. I don't think it is worthwhile to waste an exile on her - unless she is a spy. But there is really so little legitimate information to go on her; and more on others - that it would just be a complete waste at this time. I hold on to the hope that the Spies will imprison her. But as I said in the chat with her - I doubt that will happen, because I doubt they see her as a threat. *dies laughing* First, about the Spyslip: It seems we have differing opinions about the words "evidence" and "case." I would link you to the dictionary again, but this is a matter of interpretation. To me, evidence is the points that are brought up in a case, while a case is the reason that you vote for someone. It consists of all the evidence you have against a person. If you were using the spyslip as your reason for voting Mei, then it was part of your case against her. I'm trying to cover my ass? You're trying to cover yours by ignoring the point about your supposed "plan" that me and Mei hatched. Where's your answer? Why were you lying? Also, the line about me resorting to name calling has a tiny bit of hypocrisy. Can you find it, or do you need me to point it out to you?
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Roxy
Roxy
Dead Queen Bitch.
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Post by Roxy on Jun 4, 2009 11:24:39 GMT -5
It hasn't voted for me because I do not think it thinks I'm a Spy...it just enjoys trying to be witty when it just looks like a fool's writing. I suggest for It to look up wit and fools in it's all mighty dictionary. ![:)](http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif)
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 4, 2009 20:28:15 GMT -5
I intend to bring this thread back around to it's original purpose.
A summary of my suspicions of Brother Levi:
A. He had 4 suspects at the end of episode 1, but said he couldn't decide between them. I don't believe it. I asked him about it, and his response was this:
spies6levi (11:57:34 AM): When there is a very small amount of suspicion separating players, then there is no need to mention that very small amount spies6levi (11:58:04 AM): There's always a hierarchy, but when things are that minimal, there's no need to bring it up
I still don't believe it. His reason for suspecting me was from the original chat we had. His reason for suspecting Donald according to him was gut. His reason for suspecting Mei Yun was based on the "spy slip". His reason for suspecting Roxy was based on the chat they had. Those are vastly different reasons. Some of it is based on hearsay, others based on his own cases. I find it truly difficult to believe he simply couldn't pick between 4.
B. His stance on Mei Yun.
Chronologically, here is the series of events:
i. He chats with Georgia early on in the game. Georgia talks to him about the possible "spy slip" from Mei Yun. The spy slip was Mei Yun asking Georgia if she was a spy in the pregame, when only the spies had their alignments, but nobody knew.
ii. He posts his original set of suspicions. Mei Yun is 4/10 on his spy scale (on the citizen end).
iii. He says he gets a feeling that the evidence against Mei Yun is framing her, but yet adds her to the list people he's willing to exile.
spies6Kirsten (12:31:52 PM): what was the evidence against Mei Yun you agreed with spies6Kirsten (12:31:56 PM): episode 1 spies6levi (12:32:23 PM): Hmm? It was mainly the spy slip
The spy slip was apparently the main piece of evidence. He knew about that piece of evidence from the beginning, yet he had Mei Yun as 4/10 on the spy scale. Why did this evidence somehow become strong enough to add her to the exile list?
iv. He says, " Right now, there's only one possible person who I might change my vote to. That person is . . .
Mei Yun". In the chat with Faith, he says:
spies6levi (3:42:50 PM): When I made that post spies6levi (3:42:58 PM): Mei Yun was higher on my suspect list spies6levi (3:43:10 PM): Than she had ever been
Later, he says: "I wanted to see how Mei would react to that comment I made about possibly changing my vote to her. Unless she gave the most obvious scum reaction ever, I would vote Roxy. My mind at that time (the day before the vote) was 90% Roxy." It's both contradictory, and it's also something I have a hard time believing. You listed her as your second choice "to test her?" So why tell Faith she was higher on your suspect list than she had ever been? Revisionist history is fun!
v. Mei Yun becomes 100% trusted into Episode 2. On what basis? Did the spy-slip you added her to your exile list from last episode magically disappear? I can understand changing opinion to her being a citizen, but 100% trusted?
C. Skips past information contrary to his stances.
i. Ignored my defenses episode 1, left me on his suspicion list. I asked him about how my defenses affected his opinion, he did not respond. He claims he missed those questions.
ii. Presented his suspicions of Yvette to me. I told him one of his points was wrong and misguided. He did not ask me to elaborate, and pushed the case anyway.
D. Something I just realized now.
spies6Kirsten (12:08:30 PM): so you had me based on my chat. Donald based on my evidence against him (I presume?). Mei based on the evidence against her, and Roxy based on your chat spies6Kirsten (12:08:40 PM): correcT? spies6levi (12:08:44 PM): Donald was based off a gut feeling spies6levi (12:08:54 PM): My first chat with him, I got a feeling that he was hiding something spies6levi (12:09:10 PM): When you brought up evidence against him, that agreed with my feeling abou thim spies6levi (12:09:19 PM): I had mentioned my gut feeling about Donald to Mei before our chat
So your reasons for Donald were gut...but?
spies6levi (6:01:27 PM): My vote is probably going to Donald spies6Georgia (6:01:42 PM): I am good. I've only spoken with Roxy pre-opener chat. spies6levi (6:02:24 PM): Personally, even though my gut says Kirsten, there is a lot more evidence pointing towards Donald.
Were they actually based on Evidence? Bah, so confusing. So hard to remember!
A and B are the main reasons behind why I believe he is a spy. C and D are things I find scummy, but less conclusive to his alignment. D is basically just me making the point that Levi struggles to keep track of exactly how/why he suspected people. Since spies don't legitimately suspect people, it's harder for them to remember that kind of stuff.
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Post by Levi on Jun 4, 2009 20:36:25 GMT -5
About D: When I first talked to Donald, I had a gut feeling that he was a Spy. Afterwards, I talked to you, and you brought up evidence. I agreed with the evidence you brought up because it went along with the gut feeling I originally had. At the point where I had this conversation with Georgia, the evidence had already been brought up. Therefore, I pointed out the evidence. Evidence is a stronger reason for lynching someone than a gut feeling.
Like I've always said:
"Sometimes gut feelings tell you who a Spy is. Other times they tell you you shouldn't have ordered the shrimp."
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 4, 2009 20:49:10 GMT -5
It wasn't the shrimp. It was the hot pocket you had for lunch.
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Post by Levi on Jun 4, 2009 21:05:49 GMT -5
I had Ramen noodles for lunch. Good to know you're not a stalker.
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 4, 2009 21:17:19 GMT -5
Hot pocket flavored Ramen?
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Post by Levi on Jun 4, 2009 21:39:44 GMT -5
A: I have stated why I suspected the people that I did. During the first round of the game, I was still getting used to Spies. This is my first AIM-based game, my first game of Spies over all, and my first game of majorly themed mafia. I was overwhelemed, so it was hard for my judgments to be as logical as I would like them to be.
B: Revisionist history or cautions play. Your call. I was considering an alliance with Mei. If I made an alliance with a Spy, I was screwed. That was one last measure to see if I could risk an alliance with her.
C: You keep claiming that I "ignore" your defenses. Just because I listen but don't say anythign doesn't mean I'm ignoring it. Example: If there is a thread in the Burg, and I read it but I do not post, that does not mean I ignore it. And with the Yvette issue, there was more than one logical point on that case. Just because one is debunked doesn't mean the others aren't valid.
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 4, 2009 22:52:49 GMT -5
Have you read any past games of spies?
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 4, 2009 23:44:54 GMT -5
B: Revisionist history or cautions play. Your call. I was considering an alliance with Mei. If I made an alliance with a Spy, I was screwed. That was one last measure to see if I could risk an alliance with her. That's not answering the point. You told Faith that she was the highest on your suspect list that she had ever been. That implies that your reason for saying she was your 2nd choice for exile was based on your suspicion of her. Then, when you answered in thread, though, you said you were testing her to see if you should form an alliance with her. That implies you find her citizen and are merely administering one final test to determine whether or not to fully trust her. Those two answers contradict each other.
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Faith
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Daddy's Dead Princess
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Post by Faith on Jun 5, 2009 2:09:33 GMT -5
I have to ask you this Kirsten what do you think about the fact that Jaya agreed with this case against Levi? Do you just think Jaya was just trying to distance? spies6jaya (11:45:24 AM): the other team has good suspects in levi (I like kirsten's case against him) and paris (don't like rey's case against him as much)
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Post by Kirsten on Jun 5, 2009 2:29:05 GMT -5
I have to ask you this Kirsten what do you think about the fact that Jaya agreed with this case against Levi? Do you just think Jaya was just trying to distance? spies6jaya (11:45:24 AM): the other team has good suspects in levi (I like kirsten's case against him) and paris (don't like rey's case against him as much) It's hard to tell. Considering Levi wasn't on her team, and she simply made one offhand comment about him I'm not putting much stock in it either way. If she had pushed the case, then you might have a point. Argument in favor of distancing: She opposed the case on Paris. Paris was not a spy. She agreed with the case on Levi. Levi is a ...? Did Jaya actually take the time to read the cases and did she have legitimate arguments as to why she thought my case was good and Rey's weak? Or was she simply disagreeing with a case on a (presumed) citizen while agreeing with one on a spy? With that being said, there's really no evidence to suggest my above paragraph is correct or incorrect. I'm just making the point that distancing is a plausible argument, and I don't think Jaya's comment means much for Levi either way.
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Post by Levi on Jun 5, 2009 10:49:58 GMT -5
I know the basic themes/twists/roles from past seasons, but not the minor details.
Like I've said before, I was having conversations with Mei all episode. Those conversations persuaded me to trust her.
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Post by Gretchen on Jul 8, 2009 7:51:16 GMT -5
Bumppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Levi, you have my vote tomorrow. Your inconsistencies haven't changed throughout the Episodes. I have some additional thoughts / AIMs which I will add shortly.
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Post by Gretchen on Jul 8, 2009 8:25:54 GMT -5
spies6gretchen (12:11:13 PM): you have played Spies before, right? you're one of the ones who have? spies6levi (12:11:29 PM): Actually, no spies6gretchen (12:11:57 PM): oh i thought you had. cause i was wondering why someone would not answer that question when asked. spies6levi (12:12:22 PM): The "Have you played Spies?" one? spies6gretchen (12:12:24 PM): they ignored it the first time. then i asked again a little while later, and they said "not going to answer that gretchen" spies6gretchen (12:12:26 PM): yes spies6levi (12:12:34 PM): That's not a scumtell, sadly (info here about how the "if you figure out who the real person is you get penalty votes to use against them) spies6levi (12:16:05 PM): And who is this person you speak of? spies6gretchen (12:17:01 PM): hmmm.... do i tell you or don't i? that is the question! spies6gretchen (12:18:09 PM): it's jaya spies6levi (1:02:41 PM): I'm neutral about Jaya spies6levi (1:03:28 PM): And I'm nervous abotu Exile spies6levi (1:03:42 PM): The longest chat I've had this roudn is with you spies6levi (1:03:47 PM): And we're not on the same team
Just found this again. Thought it was interesting. Nothing huge, but interesting.
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spies6levi is available (11:41:42 PM) spies6levi (11:41:42 PM): I'm happy spies6levi (11:41:52 PM): Oh, hi! spies6gretchen2 (11:41:52 PM): why's that hun? spies6levi (11:42:04 PM): The scumbag's finally getting what's been coming to him spies6gretchen2 (11:42:09 PM): lol wrong chat box??? spies6levi (11:42:19 PM): No, I meant it to you spies6levi (11:42:28 PM): Just typed it in the wrong order (just woke up) spies6levi (11:42:34 PM): Scumbag = Re spies6levi (11:42:35 PM): y spies6gretchen2 (11:42:36 PM): ahhh ok fair enough.
Sidenote - People who were showing up as online on AIM at the time: Mirela Khaled People who were showing up as sleeping / away on AIM at the time: Kirsten Jenya
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spies6levi (12:25:39 AM): The Final Four in that challenge spies6levi (12:25:46 AM): Were Jaya, Ariel, Rey, and Mei Yun spies6levi (12:25:49 AM): Jaya was a Spy spies6levi (12:25:55 AM): The recap says she voluntarily left spies6gretchen2 (12:26:01 AM): hmmmmm spies6levi (12:26:05 AM): Why would she do that if she didn't have a partner still in the running? spies6gretchen2 (12:26:10 AM): cause she knew ariel / rey would stay? spies6gretchen2 (12:26:13 AM): hahaha spies6gretchen2 (12:26:17 AM): i like it i like it spies6levi (12:26:20 AM): But wait spies6levi (12:26:21 AM): There's more spies6gretchen2 (12:26:26 AM): hehehe bring it spies6levi (12:26:30 AM): Rey starts a wagon on Almathea spies6levi (12:26:34 AM): Jumps off at the last moment spies6levi (12:27:00 AM): Even though he looked like the hero there spies6levi (12:27:02 AM): He wasn't spies6levi (12:27:16 AM): Also, Ariel looks like a hero too, right? spies6gretchen2 (12:27:17 AM): hmmm.... that is odd. i also think ariel may be a spy. if you look at what kirsten posted. we picked it up together. they speak differently to eachother in pm aim's than they do in the burg. spies6levi (12:27:30 AM): After all, she let Alma get Exiled? spies6levi (12:27:34 AM): She can't be a Spy, right? spies6levi (12:27:36 AM): Wrogn spies6gretchen2 (12:27:42 AM): very wrong spies6levi (12:27:46 AM): The Alma case was fairly obvious spies6gretchen2 (12:27:59 AM): more obvious than roxy definitely spies6levi (12:28:03 AM): Yup
I am adding this bit in as I find it intriguing - especially the last couple of comments about the Roxy / Alma exile. When you take into consideration the rest of this thread too.
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spies6levi (11:52:23 PM): Er wait spies6levi (11:52:33 PM): Sorry . . . forgot to ask something spies6gretchen2 (11:52:34 PM): to cut a long story short, it was something kirsten said to me. and how do you know i changed votes? spies6levi (11:52:39 PM): Why did you not vote Yvette? spies6levi (11:52:53 PM): During Exile #3? spies6gretchen2 (11:53:04 PM): ummm because there was no way she was a spy. it would have been like voting for rey. no offense. spies6gretchen2 (11:53:15 PM): now you can answer my question. spies6gretchen2 (11:53:27 PM): i never told you i was voting william in episode four. spies6levi (11:53:48 PM): I had no idea that you were voting William in episode four spies6levi (11:53:57 PM): You voted William at Exile #3, and Donald at Exile #4 spies6gretchen2 (11:54:02 PM): spies6levi (11:50:59 PM): This reporter can identify
spies6levi (11:51:41 PM): Exile #4
spies6levi (11:51:51 PM): You voted for Donald, a known Spy
spies6levi (11:52:05 PM): What made you change your mind from voting William to voting Donald? spies6levi (11:54:03 PM): That is what I meant by "change to Donald"
Maybe it was just that simple... But I found it odd the way he worded it. I didn't tell anyone about switching to Donald last minute apart from Kirsten, from memory. Until my earlier posts today in the Exile Nine Discussion, and now everyone knows.
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spies6levi (12:29:28 AM): Alright this interview is . . . . spies6levi (12:29:31 AM): Closed spies6gretchen2 (12:29:35 AM): ok spies6levi (12:29:43 AM): Thank you very much for your time spies6gretchen2 (12:30:00 AM): no worries. good luck. i look forward to reading it all. spies6levi (12:30:10 AM): I look forward to posting it spies6gretchen2 (12:30:34 AM): let's just hope you don't get imprisoned beforehand! hope you thought of that! spies6levi (12:30:56 AM): All of my information spies6levi (12:31:03 AM): Is being PM'd to someone spies6levi (12:31:08 AM): Later today spies6levi (12:31:13 AM): Nice try though spies6gretchen2 (12:31:15 AM): i love how no one trusts me. gives me the shits.
To me, it seems he somehow knows he will not be being Imprisoned.
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spies6gretchen2 (12:18:36 AM): so do you think you will be caught out this round or the next? spies6gretchen2 (12:18:50 AM): what do you think your chances are of surviving? spies6gretchen2 (12:18:59 AM): just out of curiousity spies6levi (12:19:29 AM): My chances of surviving? spies6gretchen2 (12:19:39 AM): yep. past this exile. spies6gretchen2 (12:19:47 AM): the wagon is heading your way. spies6levi (12:19:47 AM): Well, I'm a cit, and I feel like I'm about to make a huge contribution spies6gretchen2 (12:19:56 AM): really? how? spies6levi (12:20:26 AM): You'll see if one of Roxy, Jason, or Amelia gets online soon spies6levi (12:20:40 AM): (No I don't think they are Spies) spies6levi (12:20:45 AM): (Neccessarily) spies6gretchen2 (12:21:00 AM): well the chances of that are slim. and why? just save me the time. and no i know that because you think i am. spies6levi (12:21:08 AM): I know I won't get Imprisoned next round, about 98% sure spies6gretchen2 (12:21:35 AM): what about an exile? you have been off the leash so to say for a few rounds. spies6levi (12:21:37 AM): Read the Time Capsules and you'll see why
I am unsure what this means. Last part especially.
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spies6levi (12:43:20 AM): +'d Roxy again because you wanted to Exile her "for information" spies6gretchen2 (12:43:23 AM): you have no idea unless you're a spy spies6levi (12:43:27 AM): That's justifying Exiling a cit spies6gretchen2 (12:43:34 AM): and why do you think roxy is a cit? spies6gretchen2 (12:44:05 AM): no it's justifying a kill which could be informative and she had nothing to offer at that point. spies6gretchen2 (12:44:09 AM): my turn spies6gretchen2 (12:44:14 AM): answer the above spies6levi (12:44:21 AM): Sorry for the quite spies6gretchen2 (12:44:21 AM): why is roxy a cit? spies6levi (12:44:30 AM): I have a cat who likes to crawl in the computer desk and knowck things over spies6levi (12:44:42 AM): Alright spies6gretchen2 (12:44:47 AM): cats are good spies6levi (12:45:00 AM): Roxy, I have basically one thing on her spies6levi (12:45:10 AM): The bandwagon thing from episode 1, which is why I voted her spies6levi (12:45:34 AM): I knew that was a weak reason going into the Exile spies6levi (12:45:48 AM): But I knew the reasons for voting Mei Yun were even weaker spies6levi (12:46:14 AM): Tiberius explained that she could be using a Survivor mindset spies6levi (12:46:23 AM): To try to play the game, being a newer player spies6levi (12:46:27 AM): That make perfect sense spies6levi (12:46:40 AM): Also spies6levi (12:46:53 AM): Can you point out anything else scummy that she's done/ spies6levi (12:46:53 AM): ? spies6gretchen2 (12:47:56 AM): well she's faded off now. as an outright observation. which she has. spies6gretchen2 (12:48:17 AM): has she done anything scummy? who knows. i don't know.
Again back to the early Episode voting thoughts.
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So, that's about it. Maybe you are a Citizen Levi. Some people probably think you are because of this massive "interview" project you've undertaken. Perhaps you thought about what I mentioned about the Spies playing in one particular style and decided to change it up a bit. But maybe, also, you're a Spy. Something is off about you. I am just unsure what it is. Maybe you smoke too much weed. That would explain it.
Like I said, my vote will be for you this Exile.
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Post by Levi on Jul 8, 2009 8:57:16 GMT -5
Because there are so many chat logs, I'll just answer each point individually, no quotes. (Wow, this feels like old times.)
If my memory serves me correctly, I had a whopping 1 chat with Jaya. In said chat there wasn't enough content to get a good read on her with. If Sam would allow me to post the chatlog with her, I will.
It wasn't a 'wrong window' incident, although there's no way to prove if it was or wasn't. As everyone knows, I wasn't a Rey fan. This was around the time that I saw he was getting exiled, and was also the time when I was convinced he was a Spy. That's why I was happy.
Why are the comments about Almathea and Roxy intriguing?
You voted William in Exile #3, when Yvette went home. You voted Donald at Exile #4, even though your vote from last exile was still there. I was asking why you changed your vote from one exile to the other. How would I have known if you changed your vote before Exile #4? Wouldn't that require me to have read your confessional? (Impossible.)
You're definitely right. I'm sure that I'm not getting Imprisoned, so I tell you that I'm passing any information I find interesting to a trusted source before Imprisonment. That totally screams "not worried about Imprisonment."
During that conversation was when I first read Khaled's confessional. Pretty much everyone's first reaction when they see a role (or at least mine, anyways), is that role = cit. In the Time Capsule, Khaled role claimed. My first reaction being that the role was a cit role, I thought he would be Imprisoned. Khaled =/= Levi. Therefore, I thought I would be safe. After thinking about the role for a bit, I'm not entirely sure of Khaled's alignment, but that's besides the point.
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Post by Gretchen on Jul 8, 2009 9:03:57 GMT -5
Thank you for your answers Levi. You have left me with some things to think about.
In regards to your comments about Alma and Roxy, like I said on AIM, I found all your responses about the earlier voting patterns of people interesting. Having said that, I feel the same about everyone really as in theory there should be some pretty decent clues at the start of the game. I also remember you were surprised at the Alma vote when it was read out at the Exile... And then you say to me that it was an obvious vote?
I'd also like to add this bit in too:
spies6gretchen2 (11:52:51 PM): as people mentioned in the leave eye thread, you started with one suspect. then you agreed with your suspect and added another. then you also thought mei yun was a suspect but then thought she was being framed. then you added onto the roxy idea at the end. something along those lines. i find your thoughts on people jump so quickly it's hard to keep up with and hard to pin you down on any one thing. which seems to me to be more spy behaviour than citizen.
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Finally, in relation to you knowing I changed votes to Donald from William last minute - you would have known that before today if Kirsten had told you. Which you have said you guys speak a lot. So it's possible. SpySpeak?
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Post by Levi on Jul 8, 2009 9:09:18 GMT -5
You told Kirsten?
She never told me a thing, but there's no way to verify.
About Alma and Roxy: I was focused on my own team at the first exile, so at the time, all I was going on was first impressions. I thought Almathea was nice, but that's all I knew about her. I had no idea about the whole group chat freak out thing. In hindsight, the Roxy case is a lot less obvious than the Almeathea case.
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Post by Gretchen on Jul 8, 2009 9:14:49 GMT -5
I did indeed. It was her mentioning the Jaya / William thing which made me change with about ten minutes to go.
And ok. Ty for your time Sir.
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Post by Levi on Jul 8, 2009 9:16:52 GMT -5
I did indeed. It was her mentioning the Jaya / William thing which made me change with about ten minutes to go. And ok. Ty for your time Sir. Anytime.
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Post by Georgia on Jul 8, 2009 10:57:09 GMT -5
What days were these chats?
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